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Caught On Tape: Donald Trump Asked About Libertarianism

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Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

*Note: This post originally maintained Trump was saying “be careful” to Nick Gillespie, when in reality he seems to have been talking to others walking with him in the crowd with equipment. The post has been changed to reflect this realization.

Reason’s editor in chief Nick Gillespie recently caught up with Donald Trump on the campaign trail and asked him about libertarianism. This is what ensued:

 

This exchange is troubling from several different angles.

First off, Trump does his typical dance in which he avoids questions he doesn’t want to answer by giving a simplistic jingoistic response.

 

He is clearly uncomfortable with the question. Why?

Overall, the above exchange is kind of unnecessary since it’s abundantly clear Trump is anti-liberty and anti-freedom.

Let’s recall what he said should be done with Edward Snowden. From a Washington Times story in 2013:

Edward Snowden, the man at the heart of the NSA information leaks, is nothing but a “traitor” — and America ought to recreate history in dealing with him, real estate mogul Donald Trump said on a “Fox & Friends” interview.

 

In other words, execute him, Mr. Trump implied.

 

“I think Snowden is a terrible threat, I think he’s a terrible traitor, and you know what we used to do in the good old days when we were a strong country — you know what we used to do to traitors, right?”

For more on the “real” Donald Trump, see:

Rand Paul Op-ed Blasts Donald Trump – Calls Him a “Fake Conservative” and Wannabe “King”

Will Donald Trump Run as a 3rd Party Candidate?

Donald Trump the Demagogue

You’re Fired – Trump Campaign Tweets Photo of Trump’s Head Next to Nazi Soldiers

Meet the Immigrants Building Trump’s International Hotel in Washington D.C.

 

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Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:54 | 6533908 alphahammer
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Don't worry. He has other things to seriously worry about right now.

The fucking idiot went on a bender on another thread threatining America and Americans whilst bragging about his aviation job/connections/whatever the day before 9/11. On top of it all, he renounced his US citizenship (with extreme prejuidice so it seems) and apparently has a very sharp axe to grind with Americans and the US Govt.

Oh, he has issues, trust me on that. I hope the couch is comfortable. When his wife finds out the asinine shit he yaps about all over the Interwebs can get them into a serious legal predicament -- yea a comfortable couch will be his first stop before hitting another bed not so comfortable...

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 00:57 | 6534624 AlfredNeumann
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ROFLMAO.  

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 01:31 | 6534676 AlfredNeumann
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Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:33 | 6533838 Buster Cherry
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There's no arguing with an old man who sits in a pot boutique breathing dope all day, eating Sterno and chasing it down with hand sanitizer.

He's just an angry old fuck plinking away on a keyboard in a dark corner booth.....

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:39 | 6533858 nmewn
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Yeah but I can't help teasing the chimps every so often ;-)

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 01:30 | 6534674 AlfredNeumann
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Firefighters, Architects & Engineers Expose 9/11 Myths - Official Trailer Movie release date: September 11, 2015

Read more: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3lPA5mayg

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:56 | 6533718 Dickweed Wang
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You know why election day is on Tuesdays in the USA?

Because that keeps the turnout down.

Great point!!

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 21:13 | 6533971 SamEyeAm
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You know why elections for school board comes the day after national elections in New Jersey?

Cuz the elections are held at schools and only the teachers turn out the next day to vote themselves raises.

 

See the movie "The Cartel"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1433001/?ref_=fn_al_tt_3

 

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:51 | 6533695 PoasterToaster
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"— you know what we used to do to traitors, right?”

Apparently, reward them with high office and control of the US Bureaucracy.

Snowden's exposure of the treasonous US State is absolutely heroic.  Anyone who doesn't agree is a traitorous swine, and they are going to get when they deserve before all this is over.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:13 | 6533776 Bobportlandor
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So for all U geniuses who don't like trump, who are you voting for?

Tick Tock I'm Waiting

Yeah That's what I figure you got Nada. Time to put up or shut up.

 

You know why ZERO post's this covert propaganda, because Hedge funds pay to have it placed here.

 

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:21 | 6533803 Silver Bullet
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Hey Fucktard!

I'll answer your pathetic question. 

 

BERNIE 2016. 

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 21:00 | 6533918 SamEyeAm
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Excellent! Bernie's what we need!

He'll centrally plan the shit outta us and remake us into 1960's East Germany.

It'll be so good to wait five years to get a Trabant (complete with steering wheel and windshield wipers).

Bernie Bernie He's Our Man - If He Can't Fuck U.S., No One Can !!!

 

LEAN FORWARD AND RELAX

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 01:14 | 6534648 arrowrod
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Jokes on you.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:20 | 6533800 steveo77
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Here is one you can't blame on Bush....

Death of the Pacific Ocean.

Instead of MSM covering this world changing event, last week they give airtime to "Big Blue" from like 2006 which portends to show an ocean vibrant with life.   

Instead reality is the Pacific is dying, mass animal deaths, even NOAA declaring an UME Unusual Mortality Event.    Attacked from several directions, with Fukushima as the last straw.

Here is 61 pages of links to articles that show the progression of this disaster since 2011.

Spread the word.    Its time to wake up, or else its "wake up, time to die"

http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2015/09/61-pages-of-stories-of-deat...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:26 | 6533821 I Write Code
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Libertarians are good, lots of free books.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 21:22 | 6534012 BeerMe
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This is why Trump's popularity continues to rise.  Gotcha bullshit like this.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 21:45 | 6534108 Inbetween is pain
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TRUMP--the perfect blend: The pomp of Mussolini, the insanity of Stalin, the evil heart of Hitler.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 22:07 | 6534201 Dr_Snooz
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Oh wait, you mean the loudmouth crony capitalist is turning out to be nothing more than a loudmouth crony capitalist?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 22:15 | 6534233 Psquared
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Donald Trump -vs- Hillary Clinton

Just how far down will we have stooped if this is our choice in November 2016?

I'm telling you ... it will be the end. We won't last 6 months if Trump takes office. Maybe a year or two under Hillary.

I'll hold my nose and vote for Hillary and take my chances. I will never, ever vote for Trump.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 22:35 | 6534302 Why.Not.
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I'm guessing Trump will go the way of a comedian who only tells bathroom jokes and uses a lot of four-letter words. It's entertaining (to some) for a while, then it begins to wear. Trump is capitalizing on "not establishment not PC," which will work only until it's pointed out in large glowing neon letters that he is establishment, just hanging on the political fringe for years. The adults in the room will be looking for a serious contender, and that's when the rubber will encounter the road with a loud screech and a puff of ugly smoke.  

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 23:05 | 6534401 Manipuflation
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I want to extend my condolences to my brother-in-arms WilliamBanzai7.  I will not say any more about it because it is not my place to do so.  I do want to say, Thank You William, for brightening my life with your artwork.   

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 00:25 | 6534577 metaStable
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Rather strange post! Not knowing you or WB7, I am confused but the warmth of your post was compelling. Peace be with you.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 01:03 | 6534630 Manipuflation
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William does the satire artwork on that topbar and we keep in touch personally because I like to buy things from him and he also does really great photography.  I do photowork as well and we share some work from time to time.  I did not see him say anything on ZH and therefore I can not reveal anything more than I have already because he might need a couple of days to take care of business.  Thank you for recogizing that I was only trying to show some respect.  

 

Peace to you Sir.    

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 02:41 | 6534757 One of We
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Banzai is awesome and a treasure with a wealth of knowledge and humor to share....good shit all the way around......

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 23:09 | 6534410 Son of Captain Nemo
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DONALD!!!

Will you be paying your respects at the Memorial in lower Manhattan to the vicitims 14 years ago that died... For... What?..

Will you make your campaign official tomorrow when you implicate the "rats" by name that you know in your hometown that are responsible for the collapse of the Twin Tower(s) and Building 7, that include government officials, politicians Federal, State and City, judges and real estate executives that told you what happened?!!!

Time to take what is yours by hanging out with those kind of peoples with integrity D. that nobody else has!!!

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 01:29 | 6534671 AlfredNeumann
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Firefighters, Architects & Engineers Expose 9/11 Myths - Official Trailer Movie release date: September 11, 2015

Read more: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3lPA5mayg

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 23:10 | 6534411 NoWayJose
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Over 400 comments and Trump hardly said anything to a random question tossed out while he was walking. I really doubt anyone can name the views on libertarians held by the other top tier candidates in the next debate.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 23:11 | 6534414 scatha
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Well, a month past and my opinion about Trump, self-proclaimed candidate of hopeless sycophants, have not changed yet, despite plethora of the so-called liar polls that solicit back from political automatas what was previously implanted via brainwashing of re-educational system augmented by the MSM stinky excretions sometimes called news. And his ignorant rants as of late about libertarians only confirm my conviction. 

Here it is:

To be blunt, Trump is a fake. Even his bully persona is a fake, as many other his personas that are not even skin deep.  He is just pop with no circumstance, an unscrupulous self-promoter with sociopathic traits who’s using his multiple personality disorder as a INCOHERENT vomit a.k.a. electoral pitch to desperate, impoverished or to be impoverished soon sycophants waiting for a savior.

 Having said that the real problem is with US electoral zombies who would devour anything, any charlatan would throw at them.

A very interesting and honest take of this political puppet show a.k.a. electoral campaign, diligently produced just to obfuscate already a planned coronation of Clinton 2.0 or Bush 3.0, an absurd in itself, an insult to intelligence to anyone with IQ in teens. The possible alternative, to this mockery of democratic process, for rest of us I found at:

https://contrarianopinion.wordpress.com/notes-on-buddy-politics/

 

 

THE SLOW DEMISE OF HOPE TRADERS.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 23:12 | 6534416 Porous Horace
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"...it’s abundantly clear Trump is anti-liberty and anti-freedom."

They all are. Always have been. Always will be.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 00:16 | 6534558 Wilcox1
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Ask him what he thinks about those iranian troops in Syria.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 05:59 | 6534915 1stepcloser
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I'd vote for him if he said "If it wasn't for CIA's destabilization program and their funding of ISIS, the Iranians wouldn't be there."

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 00:39 | 6534591 Monetas
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If I can't have Rush .... I'll gladly take Trump .... two exceptional Americans !

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 00:49 | 6534608 Enough Already
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I live in Washington State, so it doesn't matter who I "vote" for. 

 

The Whacko Progressive will win EVERY time. 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 01:29 | 6534669 AlfredNeumann
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Firefighters, Architects & Engineers Expose 9/11 Myths - Official Trailer Movie release date: September 11, 2015

Read more: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3lPA5mayg

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 01:57 | 6534712 AlfredNeumann
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Russia will make sure that they get evidence that ISIS is CIA/Mossad directed.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 02:43 | 6534752 Batman11
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Libertarian's believe in the freedom to spend your money as you choose.

A rich mans freedom (no money, no freedom).

The current parties are looking after the rich.

Another competitor for the votes of the 1%.

 

 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 03:59 | 6534785 VWAndy
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When I was a kid I liked pupet shows. These days they just annoy me so.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 04:19 | 6534840 James-Morrison
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Hillary vs Donald.

Really?

Sounds like a Warner-Brothers cartoon.

Oh well.

Another year of not voting. Who really even pays attention at this point? These clowns aren't worth the bandwidth.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 04:35 | 6534841 Benjamin123
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No advocate for government is a libertarian.

The closest to libertarianism that a government could ever be would be a government openly declaring the abolition of all laws, all legal tender, all public programs except for the military, police, the courts and tax collections. The courts would only ensure that contracts are followed and only because it would be convenient for the courts and judges themselves.

How so?

Judges would get fees for each case, they not be appointed by authority but by those issuing the contract themselves and that would provide an incentive for fairness since their income would depend on their reputation. Bad, activist judges would starve if no one were to demand their services.

The government would collect taxes to fund this all and grant property rights and physical security. They would not this out of their goodwill, but because it would benefit them.

How so?

Governments would not be sovereign, but straight for profit enterprises themselves that would never run deficits, trying to attract the best taxpayers to live under their jurisdiction, to minimize expenses, and to expel any troublemakers making the place unnapealing for the precious ones who pay taxes. In a libertarian world you have no allegiance to any government, but pick them like you pick which a cable provider or a landlord.

Bad governments would not get many subscribers, would not get a lot of taxes, their militaries would not be able to control their territory and would end up taken over in invasions by good governments.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 04:48 | 6534854 MATA HAIRY
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libertarianism..a disease of the young males and of the rich

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 06:03 | 6534919 deerhunter
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I read somewhere Oregon just enacted a law that citizen vehicles would be taxed at 1.5 cents per mile driven. Because of higher mileage vehicles and hybred vehicles the tax per gallon is not bringing enough cash into state coffers. By law vehicles to be fitted with a mandated gps type tracker.
Have you had enough ? Will you ever have enough? If anyone thinks who the President or any of our senators or congressman are can make a difference , DREAM ON .
They don't give a tinkers damn about citizens. PERIOD.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 06:10 | 6534928 AlfredNeumann
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Israelis are celebrating the total takeover of the USA govt today

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 06:13 | 6534933 firestarter_916
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Considering Bush couldn't find a libertaian if one bit him on the ass and the rest of the Establishment still think they are all pot smokers, I really could care less if Trump could't come up with a good philisohical answer to these stupid, worthless gotcha questions.

What's with the continued assault on Trump?  If he's so bad won't he flame out without these unneeded attacks?  What are people afraid of? I'm more afraid of Clinton in office. You might as well write for Fox News if you hate this guy so much.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 08:50 | 6535248 ChooChoo
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Trump acting as he should... as a politician ;p im not in any way astonished by that.... 
He will get libertarian votes too now ;p gratz!

Just don't give nukes to hilary ;p there are some days of the month that she might want to use them on the world ;pp with no spesific reason!
Women don't need a reason to break your head around those days ;p 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:01 | 6535304 Atomizer
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Keep in mind, Doble speak is to lead you back to establishment. 

Trump 2016

Hillary for Prison 2016

Jeb Bush for American Union 2016

Pick your vote wisely. 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:21 | 6535725 Nesbiteme
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The first thing they teach you at Trump University is reality doesn't matter. 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 15:13 | 6537190 Dawgeatdog
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He is clearly uncomfortable with the question. Why?

 

Because he first has to be briefed by his handlers as to what Libertarianism is. 

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