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Guide for Learning to Use a Sidearm to Defend Yourself, Your Loved Ones, and Your Property, Should a Race War Break Out
Bastiat says in, The Law:
Each of us has a natural right — from God — to defend his person, his liberty, and his property. These are the three basic requirements of life, and the preservation of any one of them is completely dependent upon the preservation of the other two.
So, maybe you have watched videos like those of Louis Farrakhan urging the black community to, "Rise up and kill those who kill us," and of this black activist saying that, "It’s open season on killing crackers and white cops." You probably say to yourself, "Why aren't they arrested for making terroristic threats? Maybe there really will be a race war." You would like to take the advice of this man, and carry a gun to defend yourself, but you don't know where to start, you are too embarrassed to ask your ignorant-gun-freak relative, and you are afraid that if you make your own plan you might end up as incompetent as the NYPD cops are at stopping the bad guy that is trying to kill you.
NYPD Cops Fire 84 Shots At Murder Suspect, Miss 83 Times
Fret not, Zerohedge reader, whether you are a, "cracker," or a, "nigger," or other, I give to you, without fee or warranty, hedgeless_horseman's E-Z Internet Guide for Learning to Use a Sidearm to Defend Yourself, Your Loved Ones, and Your Property, Should a Race War Break Out.
Some of what we will cover is also found in my article, Fear we are returning to a time in history where it is a common occurrence to fight for one's life? For example, I recommend that you begin learning to use a pistol to defend yourself by learning to use a knife to defend yourself. Why? Well, first, it is an inexpensive and low-risk way to discover who the good tactical instructors are in your area. Second, the learning curve for a knife is much shorter, and can also serve to shorten the learning curve for a handgun. Third, a knife can be more effective than a pistol in many situations. Fourth, there are many situations when, or where, you simply cannot carry a pistol, but you can carry a knife. Finally, a knife is a good back-up to a malfunctioning pistol, or more likely a malfunctioning shooter.
Brian Hoffner offers a package with very good knife, a matching training knife, and a DVD for $119. Benchmade no longer makes the LFTi model that I have frequently recommended.
Brian explains that when you and your knife go to court, you want a simple-folding knife without an assist (so the DA doesn't claim you have an illegal switchblade), and within the legal-length limit for concealed carry in your specific area. You do not want to be carrying an illegal weapon, or even what is perceived to be an illegal weapon, especially if you are a black man in America, so know the law for where you live.
With a knife, just like with a firearm, the best knife is the knife that you know. So, first take a class from a reputable instructor, then either buy or make a matching training knife (blunt) and practice regularly. You should get to the point where you can reliably deploy your knife with one hand in about half-a-second. Carry it with you every day, either in the pocket opposite of your gun hand, or in the middle of your front beltline, and keep it sharp with one of these Benchmade Mini-Tactical Pro Sharpeners.
Now...on to the gun!
First, before handling a firearm, it is most important for EVERYONE in the household to know, understand, and follow these four safety rules:
- Treat all weapons as if they are loaded.
- Do not point the weapon at anyone or anything that you do not want to shoot, kill, or destroy.
- Do not put your finger on the trigger until you have 1) target, 2) sights on target, and 3) perception that either A) "serious bodily injury or death is imminent for myself or another person," or B) firing range is hot and training drill is live.
- Be aware of, and take responsibility for, all bystanders that may be behind or near the target.
I will add a fifth rule, to the common four, which is to not be under the influence of any mind-altering chemical such as alcohol or dope when handling a firearm.
I absolutely refuse to be within a mile of anyone that I see not following these rules, which is why I generally avoid public gun ranges, and suggest that you shoot at a nice, lonely, high, dirt hill, way out in the boonies, or pay for a membership at a private tactical range that screens all members and guests and has at least 270 degree bays.
Next, and I cannot stress this point enough, get instruction from an experienced professional. Specifically, take at least two weekends of tactical pistol training. It does not matter whether you are a 10-year veteran of law enforcement, a Marine with two tours in the sandbox, or both, you will still learn much and improve significantly with good instruction. Taking the state's required, "course," to test for a concealed handgun license (CHL) is not even close to adequate instruction. Usually, all the CHL course does is inform you of the laws regarding concealed carry, and assign you with some basic level of proficiency that can be used against you in court.
The worst approach, in my humble opinion, is to buy a pistol and a cheap holster that is, "made for this gun," at the gun store, take the CHL test the next week, and start to carry your weapon as soon as your permit arrives in the mail. If you follow this path, you are a danger to yourself and your loved ones, and not a real threat to the bad guys.
A sane approach is as follows.
By and install (drill and bolts) a Gunvault GV200D gunsafe next to your bedside. I am not necessarily suggesting that you keep your gun LOCKED in the safe at night. However, I am suggesting that you will often need a SAFE and CONVENIENT place to keep your pistol in its holster when it is not on your person. Pro tip: If you keep your pistol in its holster when you take it off and put it on each day, then you are less likely to have an unintended discharge, as the trigger is covered by the holster.
Assess what type and location of concealment is best suited for the clothing you wear on a daily basis. Do not open carry, even if it is legal, as it gives away a significant tactical advantage, and makes you a priority target.
If you are a male, then I strongly suggest that you will want to carry your pistol in a holster, on your waist, on the strong side of your body (are you right or left handed?), somewhere between your belly button and your spine. You will want to carry spare magazines in the same location on your weak side. Some say that an exception to this exists if you spend your day sitting in a vehicle, and then you may wish to consider a cross-draw shoulder holster, but even then, I suggest a seat mounted holster between your legs, and transition to a strong side waist holster when you need to leave the vehicle.
If you wear a shirt tucked in, even with a coat most of the time, then I suggest that you are best suited with an inside-the-waistband-tuckable holster. Tuckable means the shirt tucks over the portion of the pistol above the waistband and belt.
If you are able to wear an untucked shirt, vest, or jacket, 100% of the time, then you have many more options. However, I still recommend an inside-the-waistband-tuckable holster and magazine carriers, but don't tuck the shirt. Do, however, wear a long A-shirt between the pistol and your skin.
Strong-side inside the waist band (IWB) gives adequate concealment with maximum utility. Sure, you can probably hide a .380 pocket pistol in your crotch, but who really wants to drop trou' just to draw your weapon 20+ times when you visit the range, or try to run to cover in a gunfight with your pants around your ankles? Strong-side IWB, tucked or untucked, will allow you to draw and fire accurately in less than two seconds, with practice, and also gives you two fast magazine reloads.
If you are a slim female that either likes to (or is required to) wear fitted clothing, or Bruce Jenner, then you are not going to be able to conceal a pistol on your waist, or probably anywhere on your person. Fortunately, there are many tactical purse options available for women, or men that like to carry a purse...not that there is anything wrong with that. The Galco one's are very well made. You will want to buy at least two identical purses, as one of them is going to get abused during training.
https://www.galcogunleather.com/del-holster-handbag_8_149_1078.html
So, now it is time to decide on a holster and magazine carriers. You will need to choose a material, and really the only two good options are a hard-molded plastic called kydex, real leather, or a combination of the two. Avoid the cheap cloth and neoprene holsters. Most people say that kydex holsters are more durable and leather holsters are more comfortable. I prefer a combination of kydex and leather, like the Comp-Tac CTAC or MTAC Holsters. The C-Clips are less obvious when wearing the holster tucked.
What? You say that to by a holster you need to know which pistol it is for? Be patient. We will get there.
Now, let us assess what caliber is best suited for your concealment choice, hand size, and budget. The reality is that larger caliber pistols are bigger and heavier than smaller caliber pistols. This matters when you are wearing it, concealed, along with one or two additional magazines...all...day...every...single...day. Smaller caliber pistols give you more rounds, which is a very good thing in a gun fight. If you have smaller hands, then you are going to want to go with a smaller caliber, because the magazine fits inside of the pistol's grip. Smaller calibers, in general, have less recoil (kick), which really matters if you are going to select a light-weight gun for everyday carry. Some will argue, endlessly it seems, that larger calibers are more effective at stopping the bad guy. I believe the evidence shows that any truth to this, "stopping power," argument is far outweighed by the, "shot placement," argument, which is essentially that what really matters is if, and where, you hit the bad guy, not how big is the hole that is made by the bullet. The only thing any pistol does is make holes in people; there are no magic-exploding bullets that send the bad guy flying backwards out of the room...even in .45 Long Colt. This isn't Hollywood. Lastly, in regards to cost, usually larger caliber ammunition is more expensive.
With all of that being said, it should be obvious that I favor the smaller calibers for concealed carry, such as the 9mm. Or, for something a little more exotic, the 5.7x28mm (same caliber as an AR-15/M-16 rifle with less powder), if you want high capacity, and light weight, and very-low recoil, and the ability penetrate many types of body armor, and if the higher prices for pistol and ammunition are not a concern, and if you are ready, willing, and able, to come by SS190 carry ammunition from sources other than your local gun store where it is illegal for them to sell it, but not illegal for you to have it, in most places. Know your local gun laws, no matter how unconstitutional, illogical, and draconian: they are for your protection/sarc/
At this point, finally, we can assess what pistols are available in your selected caliber for your concealment choice, hand size, and budget. It is 2015, so I am just not going to consider revolvers for personal defense, even though I am a bad-ass-mother-fucker with my Colt SAA, and I love my precious Peacemaker dearly. My personal recommendations for semi-automatic self-defense concealed carry pistol manufacturers are FNH and H&K, because both make highly reliable DA models that do have a safety lever, and it is not on the trigger. This preference will absolutely infuriate Glock lovers. Oh well. I have several reasons why, but the primary one is that I like to keep the fight cycle consistent for all weapons: pistol, rifle, and shotgun. We are required to knock-off the safety for both rifle and shotgun, so we must train to do it, because it is very bad (potentially life threatening) to not train to disengage and/or engage the safety on a weapon that has a safety. Therefore, I want a safety on my pistol, too, to keep things simple and consistent in my brain. In addition, I believe that it is indeed more safe to have a true safety on a firearm. The Glock-style "safety" on the trigger simply does not count, it does not prevent the pistol from firing when the trigger is pulled, like a safety on a rifle or shotgun do.
Given the choice of single-action, double-action, double-action/single-action, and double-action-only, I prefer the latter, again, to keep the fight cycle simple and consistent with the rifle and semi-automatic shotgun.
When available, I prefer the smaller frame models, also known as, "compact," for concealed carry, as they are easier to conceal. Duh.
I don't have a preference on striker fired, or not, as I have never been a Glock fan, for reasons already discussed, and therefore never had any reason to own a striker-fired pistol.
I do require front and rear tritium night sight. Period. Trying to hit a bad guy in the dark, under stress, without being able to see the fucking sights, is both very difficult and very, very, scary. I don't want my light mounted to my pistol, as it makes for an easy target. I do want to hold my light away from me and my pistol.
Lasers on pistols are essentially useless, unless they are IR, it is pitch black, and you are using Night Vision Goggles, then they are The_Fucking_Shit. So, a mounting rail isn't totally useless on a pistol.
I cannot guarantee it, but I think this leaves me with the following choices for current models.
In 9mm:
http://www.fnhusa.com/products/handguns/fns-series/fns-9-compact/
http://hk-usa.com/hk-models/p30sk/
In 5.7x28:
http://www.fnhusa.com/products/handguns/fn-five-seven/five-seven/
My personnel choice for the last many years is the FN FiveseveN. It is so reliable that I had to make a training magazine that will cause stoppages in order to be able to train myself on dealing with stoppages. However, if you get one, make sure it has the metal magazine release, and not the plastic one that came on the very early models. Use factory FNH 20-round magazines, not the Pro-Mag 30-round crap.
Ok. Now go buy your pistol! Don't worry if you don't know how to buy a firearm. It is easy. Walk into a gun shop. Tell them exactly what you want. Write it down, or print off the web page. They will do the rest. If they must order it, no problem. You can wait. Don't let them sell you some other pistol that is in stock, because nobody else wants it either.
Finally, and most important, complete the following courses in this order:
- One half-day tactical folding knife class; $150.
- 2-3 weekends of Tactical Pistol Courses; $1,000.
- One day of Self and Family Emergency Medical Aid/Trauma Kit Course; $150.
- A series of several two-hour self-defense classes (not martial arts classes); $200.
- Fulfillment of requirements for concealed handgun permit; $250.
You should learn in these classes how to safely conduct dry-fire training at home with your pistol and your dummy knife. Do this on a regular basis, such as once per week for just 5 minutes, and soon you could finally be ready, willing, and able to defend your person, liberty, and property, should you be faced with a situation where, "serious bodily injury or death is imminent," and chances are very good that it will not take you 84 shots to, "stop," the bad guy.
Be safe.
Peace!
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Notice how, on the rare occasion that a white kills a black, that the Socialist Zio-Jew media always features RACE IN THE HEADLINE, contrast that to violent homo kneegrow who targeted two reporters FOR BEING WHITE....The Zio-Jew media had no race in the headline, and made little or no mention of the racist kneegrows anti white manifesto. Same with the violent kneegrow son of the Obowelmovement who executed the white cop at the gas station.
DIVERSITY = THE ZIO-JEW WAR ON WHITES, CHRISTIANS AND HETEROSEXUALS.....will stupid white people ever wake up and fight back?
Dyllan Roof did, he shot those blacks to protest the 10,000 WHITE WOMEN RAPED BY BLACKS LAST YEAR, but the socialist Zio-Jew media never mentioned that.
10,000 white women raped by blacks, and less than ten black women raped by whites, and the Zio-jew media says white racism is the problem.
That was really a lame attempt to link a drugged up mental case tool like Dyllan Roof, with the legitimate concerns white folk should have for the perpetual and disproportionate minority violence problem.
+100 to RR
Glad to see "Socialist Zio-Jew Media" woven into the conversation. Ever wonder how few people realize that in all walks of life communication is everything...
media = communication
media = left wing Jews (certainly not all jewish people)
media = broken, and has been for a long time
Always get to the root of the problem!
Thanks to feminism and "sexual liberation" all women are sexually available at all times. The only question is whether she "wants" to fuck the guy(s) in question. Naturally there is going to be some confusion and mixups here and there when a modern Western slut goes walking down the street with her ass cheeks hanging out and tits flopping around.
I don't even think it's possible to rape a modern feminist sexually liberated whore of a Western woman. If you walk into a lion cage covered in blood and hamburger, expect to have a bad time. If you go walking around dressed like a whore, expect to get fucked. Always remember that women wanted this, they agitated for feminism and whore culture.
Also, who supports the importation of blacks and Muslims into Europe? Women. All women have serious rape fetishes and the only people truly offended by rape are men that don't understand what disgusting whores Western feminist women really are.
What I mean is, women walking around by themselves and NOT being harrassed and raped is only possible in a civilized white society. Nowhere else on Earth do women enjoy this expectation that they are equal to men in all ways and should be able to walk around with their tits and ass and camel toe hanging out and not risk being raped.
That was something only benevolent white men would allow for women. Now that there are no white societies there are no feminist societies. Introducing Muslim and black savages into to Europe was naturally going to result in the death of feminism and the rape of millions of white girls and women.
What women are learning is that the only reason they haven't been harrassed and raped repeatedly their entire lives is because white men have souls and are benevolent towards white women. The introduction of millions of soulless animals into white nations has been and will continue to be a nightmare for white women.
To some extent it is white men's fault for letting white women pretend they are equal to men and get away with all sorts of feminist nonsense. Men have let multiple generations of white women grow up that are defenseless against the non-white onslaught in Europe and North America because they actually believe they can fend off a man in 1 on 1 combat. They actually believe they should be able to walk around the city at night by themselves dressed like a prostitute and face no consequenes. They actually believe they should be able to go out alone drinking and pass out drunk and not suffer "consequences." But that's modern Western society, nobody thinks they should ever have to face the consequences of their actions.
You are the epitome of benevolence.
https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/chrissie-hynde-blames-sexual-assault-se...
Chrissie backs you up. Loved her for years, in an sonic way.
Very interesting take. Haven't heard this before.
Yeah - so how many 17 year old tactical Internet commandos now think they know their shift after reading this? Only on ZH...
44 did you miss read the hedge's blog..you know that little part in it written several times about GET TRAINED?? try to put some effort in before shooting off.
44 = Zionist Shill/Violent kneegrow Enabler/Apologist
thanks to all who c carry. so many times no one was armed when the drugged up (antidep) leftist hater shows up and starts killing. like that last black homo tv news shooter, obuma supporter..the conservatives value life and some like our ccarry folks want to protect, not harm. with the millions of guns in conservative white hands why no one has taken out the .gov socialists like say the irs head lerner is because we value life.
Dude, that was a hoax
Why does ZH post junk like this?
better question.....Why do white hating racist cowards hate the truth so much?
tongue if you know the truth, spill it.
I just did, about 5 posts up....top of the page right now.
you got a point there tongue..but we live in the land of the blind, nobody wants to think they are the target for extinction..we are a dead race walking. remember 1953...
"Panic has spread through Europeans in Kenya after the slaying of a white settler farmer and his family. Settler groups, displeased with the government's response to the increasing Mau Mau threat have created their own Commando Units to deal with the treat. Sir Evelyn Baring, the Governor-general of Kenya has announced that a new offensive is to begin under the command of Major-general William Hinde. Amongst those speaking out against the Mau Mau threat and the government's inaction is Elspeth Huxley, author (who wrote The Flame Trees of Thika in 1959), who in a recent newspaper article compares Jomo Kenyatta to Hitler."
What a crock. In their view Kenyans were acting against a colonial occupataion...
what the fuck you crazy shit for brains: chopping up & killing kids and helpless women was fighting occupation? deranged logic of the typical leftist.
Louis Farrakhan Urges Crowd to 'Kill Those Who Kill Us,' Calls for Retaliation in Speech at Baptist Church
http://www.christianpost.com/news/louis-farrakhan-urges-crowd-to-kill-th...
"I'm looking for 10,000 in the midst of a million. I'm looking for 10,000 in the midst of the million. Ten thousand fearless men who say death is sweeter than to continue life under tyranny," Farrakhan says in a video excerpt of his speech published online this week by the Nation of Islam.
More Bullshit from a Muslim asshole. This black SOB should get his wish. Why is he still allowed to walk these streets? Imagine if a White nut decided to preach to the choir that Whites should go out and kill niggers. How long do you think he would be allowed to keep making such speeches?
Obama and his thugs at the Injustice department let this lunatic continue to rant on. Remember it was Holder who left those Black panthers go free after they were caught violating the rights of voters in Philadelphia.
I help people pro bono with the "3 Gs" all the time and agree & disagree with HH on various points.
First, the old saying is "Just like a nigger, coming to a gun fight armed with a knife!" Training is important, but knife training does not seem to be the best use of time.
I prefer Kraut-made modern compact and sub-compact single/double action semi-auto pistols with decocker chambered in .40 S&W that accept a high-capacity double-stacked magazine. Favorite compacts are Sig P229, HK P2000 or HK USP40C (12rd mags) and sub-compact HK P2000SK or Sig 224 (9rd mags). (Women also like the P2000SK, since it's easier to pull back the slide.) Also, a blued steel .38 SA/DA revolver with 2 inch barrel is inexpensive with good stopping power and won't jam.
I prefer the .40, since it's almost as powerful as the .45, but the slightly smaller diameter allows mags to be double-stacked with a skinnier handle. Heavy calibers have stopping power, but kick and are not as accurate. However, a handgun is a short-range self-defense weapon and until SHTF you generally should not be shooting unless the threat is 10 feet away. Do not get firearms in an oddball caliber that is hard to find. I also like the ambidextrous, double belt loop nylon snap-holsters with metal waistband clip.
For waves of zombies, get a semi-auto rifle chambered in 5.56mm/.223 cal. or 7.62X39 that accepts a detachable magazine, such as an AR-15, Sig 556 or AK variant, stack of 30-round mags and a case of 1,000 rounds of ammo. A 12 gauge shotgun is also recommended for close/mid ranges and a standard deer rifle with magnifying scope can pick off zombie leaders at 200+ yards.
You can save FeRNs by shopping and buying from online auction sites, like Gunbroker, GunsAmerica, etc.
Refer to the "ten commandments of firearm safety," the first of which is always point the muzzle in a safe direction.
DO talk with your "gun nut" friends & family. Like HH & I, each will offer a different perspective.
Ive owned guns for close to 60years and I only have one thing to say. YOU People scare me. ALL OF YOU.
You don't have the right to not be scared.
hey Cowdiddler....why not straighten us out instead of engaging in socialist Zio-Jew Saul Alinsky Rules For Radicals personal attacks?
Owning guns for over 60 yrs. That makes you the authority a to be scared? Tells me your old for one, but that's about it.
I am old. I come from a time when everyone had a closet full of guns for mostly hunting and NOONE was getting killed. I dont have to have authority or your permission to be scared of a bunch of modern day gun nuts living in cities reading GUNs and Ammo and watching Hollywood movies. Thanks
Old guy with semi-nudie avatar lecturing other adults about owning guns. Hey gramps - F off. Lay off the martinis.
What you call gun nuts I call armed law abided citizens. Yes cities are notorious havens for criminals. So we don't rely on police or anyone else.
"I call armed law abided citizens."..............."So we don't rely on police"
I don't guess you could possibly see the flaw and falsity in your logic? Here let me walk you through.
In my day we called it taking the law into your own hands, or, living outside the law which has a shorter term called outlaw. Only 2 ways to be, within the law or outside it.
But with todays gun nut trigger happy nutjob cops I understand how you feel.
Im sorry, your statement does not relieve my concern.
So stay home, Gramps. Nobody's going to argue with the voices in your head. Me, I know several concealed carry civilians and they all treat it as an incredible responsibility. PS - re-read the 84 shot volley story above before you respond. Thanks.
PPS - my favorite avatar on the board.
no voices in my head. I go the hell where every I want, when I want.. In my time we did not conceal shit, We put them up straight up in a gun rack in the rear windsheild or on the dash or seat.I still do. I dont care how many scared little wussies you know that feel the need to carry a gun 24/7. I read the 84 shot volley story and I think the cops were right but got to carried away.
We just see things from a lens of different times.
Pocket carry a 9mm SCCY. The SCCY 9mm is a semi auto 10 rnd capacity poly framed internal hammered pistol with a trigger pull around 8lbs. I carry this 2 ways according to season here in mid alantic. Fall/winter it's in coat pocket strong side and spare mag in weak side pocket. Trigger is long, but with practice it is easy to become proficient with. I chose this particular pistol after research for coat pocket carry for heavy trigger pull to eliminate a N/D and secondly for its reliability. I practice with same manner of carry. Urban environment is 80% of time spent and walk Alot to and from and a mile to work. Elements are notorious in area. I don't have any concern about a pocket holster due to triggers weight. If I get bad feeling on a aproach I'm at the ready. I recommend checking these affordable American made pistols out. Best warranty in the buisness. Torture tests thru out You Tube. Shot all types of JHP, no hiccups. 1000 rnds thru. SCCY CPX2. D/A only. Price anywhere from 218.00 to high 2s.
The ratio of African Americans to Anglo Americans is about 1 to 10. Among my African American friends, I can count none who are folloeers of Farakhan.
So, where are the FACTS to back up the original premise of ths article?
When I was a lawman, it was important to develop muscle memory, because in an emergency, you have to pull from the holster and fire. Even though I am much older, I can still, with practice, pull and hit a target at 7 yards in .25 seconds.
You just have to practice!
Most white people are too stupid to realize Obama declared open season on whitey when he refused to prosecute a racist black panther who was threatening white voters with a billy club, and blocking their etrance to the polls...the SOCIALIST JEW MEDIA said nothing about this, because they are in on the destruction of white America too.....It's obviously what the FED wants.
Ha. Most YTs do not have it figured out yet that Bath House is a Marxist and wants racial murders.
To date, have any of these Black Supremacist or paramilitary groups been pursued by the Feds? NO!
I am concerned it will devolve to a point where all YTs will have to be armed. The scenario reminds me of Rhodesia years ago when I was a young analyst.
For better or worse, we used to counter dangerous Marxist groups. Now we have one at 1600 PA Avenue.
Arm up, YTs. It is going to get much, much worse. I have not even factored in the Muslims yet to be armed by The Bath House.
Folks are going to find themselves literally fighting for their lives.
But, hey, he got "elected" twice.
YT?
lazy, slothlike textspeak for whites?
he just said dont handle a gun under the influence of alcohol or dope. Acid's ok, then?
IDK - aren't handguns and tequila supposed to be the perfect recipe for good times?
Hammerless snub nosed revolver in the right front pocket. It's already in your hand when the fight starts. And if it doesn't, your just a dude with his hand in his pocket.
Indeed.
Many highly opinionated and "knowledgeable" comments by folks who have never been in a firefight.
Me either.
But my US Army infantry training, both as an enlisted person and later as an officer was at the hands of many senior NCOs who spent multiple tours in Viet Nam, and those guys knew incredible things.
So I sought out my concealed carry training and equipment by those who had been in multiple firefights.
I don't know poop compared to these people and resolved to only do what I learned from them.
Example of one of the schools I attended.
http://www.fairbanksalaskashooter.com/mike-pannone.html
Hint,
None of those guys are carrying wheel guns,
None of them carry in the pocket w/o a holster
None of them carry less than two spare magazines
Yes I had to make expensive changes to my wardrobe, both business and casual to pull off the proper method.
The US Navy Seal Standard for MINUMUM competency is from a holster concealed and covered by a garment, to draw and put two rounds in bad guy #1 and two more rounds in bad guy number 2, from 7 meters away in under 2.5 seconds for all four rounds including the time to draw.
The instructor demonstrates the drill in 1.8 seconds and I have a chart for "masters" level training that accomplishes it in 1.3.
First round on target at a minimum in under 1.5 seconds, and I've seen the instructor pull multiple examples at 0.85 seconds to hit within 7 meters.
One round in the bad guy is never considered enough.
These instructors are the guys training our state and local police at FLTEC in Artesia New Mexico.
Now you know why cops are putting 7-8 rounds into suspects.
It is exactly how they are trained.
We shot 800 rounds in two days, enough that I received knuckle abrasions deep enough to leave a scar from all the draws from a concealed holster.
I hope I am ready, and Lord forbid I ever have to use my training, but compared to some of the police and Fed agency guys receiving training with me, I’m still a slow poke.
If I prove not up to the task in that fateful second, hopefully my wife or someone good will pick the gun off my dead body and put the bad guy down if I fail.
But I keep training. I've seen how high the bar is set for skill at arms.
At home I still rely on a shotgun staged for just in case, because pistols just suck at doing the job.
Thank you for your experienced commentary. I had minimal training in pistol as a new Air Force officer, but I had a talent, so they let me wear a Marksman ribbon during my entire Systems Command career. I've taken the tactical pistol and carbine courses offered through http://www.ccjatraining.com/ . But I am reluctant to tweak my neighbors by training in the yard more than a few times a year, and I believe the Sheriff and state police have shots fired triangulators on the cell towers, so I try to keep it to the days around the fourth of July when there are many other raports. I'll never be as trained as I wish to be.
But I wanted to give some perspective about the scenarios I see coming, and why conceal carry and rounds quickly on traget are of less importance to me. I think the violence will start and escalate in urban areas and initially be covered by media. This will put me in the first level of warning "condition yellow", and be the motivation to complete my preps. By the time it has spread to the areas like the one I live in, I don't think there will be the infrastructure and systems that would support me coming in to work any longer. At that point, I'll be at home, holding down the fort with my family and perhaps a few dear friends. The wife, my older children, and I will be open carrying almost full time and minimizing our trips outside. My greatest fears are rogue law enforcement, war lords (preppers who always planned to go on the offensive), gangs, and perhaps the care, upkeep, and cooling of the local nuke plant and its ponds. I think any tyranny at a higher level will have their hands full in other areas at first.
So I do not see a world existing where high expertise in pistol self defense will be useful for more than a few days, days I intend to be home with my AR-15 or shotgun that expect will extend into months.
Sir, I agree 95% with your reply, which I why I took the family out of San Fran in 2012 and up to the mountains of Oregon, at a 70% pay cut so far, (and all the happier for it, since i landed a mortgage 75% less than my SF area rent)
So yes, urban areas will be, and currently are, the hot spots to suffer first.
Once contagion spreads and intensifies we are all better off away from major metros and open carry of long arms has the strong possibility of becoming a common occurrence in such places.
You are also correct; Everybody should make it a priority to have a high degree of proficiency with long arms, shotguns and rifles. (I even thought I was good to go in this area as a former infantry guy and skeet shooter, but one trip to a 3 gun competition showed me there are higher levels to attain even for my rifles skills, some of those shooters are amazing)
My only 5% difference in your reply, is the collapse is already proving to be a slow motion event, and at present I need to be armed in a crumbling semi-polite society, gradually becoming more risky.
But I used to think we were on the brink of the new dark ages. I thought we were heading down the toilet in 2011 with Greece in riots, and contagion would spread. Then I thought Ebola would keep right on doubling every 21 days until it purged most of us.
Sooo, I keep being wrong about how the collapse will go down. I'm now beginning to think THIS is the collapse, one long painful slow motion train wreck.so THESE are the exact days of having potential pistol skills. And we will be sorry when it ends, as you describe (which i agree is coming eventuall) especially if it looks like a James Wesley Rawles novel, or Leningrad 1942-43 depending our ones geo-political locationing during the coming Darkness
For no other reason that it allows the "elite" to pimp money out of the middle class more and longer.
I think Venezuela or other banana states is our poster child for how it’s going to go down. Most of those places people are still trying to get to work, and to shops and such among the steeple. I think my pistol skills still suck, so I'm going to keep working on those skills. I recognize we are responsible for every round we discharge, and my concern is if I hit a bystander, and/or I am not fast enough compared to an adversary.
Already my shotgun skills are not that far behind other 3 gun dudes, so since it’s my strength, I've made that my homestead primary and the 5.56 is for my small statured wife.
But along with the slow motion train wreck collapse philosophy, we are working much harder at permaculture on our little plot of earth here in Oregon than I am at anything regarding firearms. Even if we only get to 30% of our needed calories on our land, it’s not starving to death when the grid goes down.
Congrats to you for becoming an Air Force officer. BTW my career mentor’s father (architects both) was the project manager for the design of the Air Force Academy Chapel. pretty cool.
I Miss America.
What you say is correct.
A good shot timer is an invaluable tool for getting to the next level.
I prefer the CED 7000.
If you ever get the opportunity to come down and shoot Precision Rifle with TJ at TIGER Valley, take it!
Wind...oh my, the wind.
Thank you! good idea both on the timer and precision rifle training!
you're full of shit. Ive had training from my big brother on how to play Starcraft. I can INFER from ordering digital space marines around how to handle a weapon. Respact my authoritah