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Guide for Learning to Use a Sidearm to Defend Yourself, Your Loved Ones, and Your Property, Should a Race War Break Out
Bastiat says in, The Law:
Each of us has a natural right — from God — to defend his person, his liberty, and his property. These are the three basic requirements of life, and the preservation of any one of them is completely dependent upon the preservation of the other two.
So, maybe you have watched videos like those of Louis Farrakhan urging the black community to, "Rise up and kill those who kill us," and of this black activist saying that, "It’s open season on killing crackers and white cops." You probably say to yourself, "Why aren't they arrested for making terroristic threats? Maybe there really will be a race war." You would like to take the advice of this man, and carry a gun to defend yourself, but you don't know where to start, you are too embarrassed to ask your ignorant-gun-freak relative, and you are afraid that if you make your own plan you might end up as incompetent as the NYPD cops are at stopping the bad guy that is trying to kill you.
NYPD Cops Fire 84 Shots At Murder Suspect, Miss 83 Times
Fret not, Zerohedge reader, whether you are a, "cracker," or a, "nigger," or other, I give to you, without fee or warranty, hedgeless_horseman's E-Z Internet Guide for Learning to Use a Sidearm to Defend Yourself, Your Loved Ones, and Your Property, Should a Race War Break Out.
Some of what we will cover is also found in my article, Fear we are returning to a time in history where it is a common occurrence to fight for one's life? For example, I recommend that you begin learning to use a pistol to defend yourself by learning to use a knife to defend yourself. Why? Well, first, it is an inexpensive and low-risk way to discover who the good tactical instructors are in your area. Second, the learning curve for a knife is much shorter, and can also serve to shorten the learning curve for a handgun. Third, a knife can be more effective than a pistol in many situations. Fourth, there are many situations when, or where, you simply cannot carry a pistol, but you can carry a knife. Finally, a knife is a good back-up to a malfunctioning pistol, or more likely a malfunctioning shooter.
Brian Hoffner offers a package with very good knife, a matching training knife, and a DVD for $119. Benchmade no longer makes the LFTi model that I have frequently recommended.
Brian explains that when you and your knife go to court, you want a simple-folding knife without an assist (so the DA doesn't claim you have an illegal switchblade), and within the legal-length limit for concealed carry in your specific area. You do not want to be carrying an illegal weapon, or even what is perceived to be an illegal weapon, especially if you are a black man in America, so know the law for where you live.
With a knife, just like with a firearm, the best knife is the knife that you know. So, first take a class from a reputable instructor, then either buy or make a matching training knife (blunt) and practice regularly. You should get to the point where you can reliably deploy your knife with one hand in about half-a-second. Carry it with you every day, either in the pocket opposite of your gun hand, or in the middle of your front beltline, and keep it sharp with one of these Benchmade Mini-Tactical Pro Sharpeners.
Now...on to the gun!
First, before handling a firearm, it is most important for EVERYONE in the household to know, understand, and follow these four safety rules:
- Treat all weapons as if they are loaded.
- Do not point the weapon at anyone or anything that you do not want to shoot, kill, or destroy.
- Do not put your finger on the trigger until you have 1) target, 2) sights on target, and 3) perception that either A) "serious bodily injury or death is imminent for myself or another person," or B) firing range is hot and training drill is live.
- Be aware of, and take responsibility for, all bystanders that may be behind or near the target.
I will add a fifth rule, to the common four, which is to not be under the influence of any mind-altering chemical such as alcohol or dope when handling a firearm.
I absolutely refuse to be within a mile of anyone that I see not following these rules, which is why I generally avoid public gun ranges, and suggest that you shoot at a nice, lonely, high, dirt hill, way out in the boonies, or pay for a membership at a private tactical range that screens all members and guests and has at least 270 degree bays.
Next, and I cannot stress this point enough, get instruction from an experienced professional. Specifically, take at least two weekends of tactical pistol training. It does not matter whether you are a 10-year veteran of law enforcement, a Marine with two tours in the sandbox, or both, you will still learn much and improve significantly with good instruction. Taking the state's required, "course," to test for a concealed handgun license (CHL) is not even close to adequate instruction. Usually, all the CHL course does is inform you of the laws regarding concealed carry, and assign you with some basic level of proficiency that can be used against you in court.
The worst approach, in my humble opinion, is to buy a pistol and a cheap holster that is, "made for this gun," at the gun store, take the CHL test the next week, and start to carry your weapon as soon as your permit arrives in the mail. If you follow this path, you are a danger to yourself and your loved ones, and not a real threat to the bad guys.
A sane approach is as follows.
By and install (drill and bolts) a Gunvault GV200D gunsafe next to your bedside. I am not necessarily suggesting that you keep your gun LOCKED in the safe at night. However, I am suggesting that you will often need a SAFE and CONVENIENT place to keep your pistol in its holster when it is not on your person. Pro tip: If you keep your pistol in its holster when you take it off and put it on each day, then you are less likely to have an unintended discharge, as the trigger is covered by the holster.
Assess what type and location of concealment is best suited for the clothing you wear on a daily basis. Do not open carry, even if it is legal, as it gives away a significant tactical advantage, and makes you a priority target.
If you are a male, then I strongly suggest that you will want to carry your pistol in a holster, on your waist, on the strong side of your body (are you right or left handed?), somewhere between your belly button and your spine. You will want to carry spare magazines in the same location on your weak side. Some say that an exception to this exists if you spend your day sitting in a vehicle, and then you may wish to consider a cross-draw shoulder holster, but even then, I suggest a seat mounted holster between your legs, and transition to a strong side waist holster when you need to leave the vehicle.
If you wear a shirt tucked in, even with a coat most of the time, then I suggest that you are best suited with an inside-the-waistband-tuckable holster. Tuckable means the shirt tucks over the portion of the pistol above the waistband and belt.
If you are able to wear an untucked shirt, vest, or jacket, 100% of the time, then you have many more options. However, I still recommend an inside-the-waistband-tuckable holster and magazine carriers, but don't tuck the shirt. Do, however, wear a long A-shirt between the pistol and your skin.
Strong-side inside the waist band (IWB) gives adequate concealment with maximum utility. Sure, you can probably hide a .380 pocket pistol in your crotch, but who really wants to drop trou' just to draw your weapon 20+ times when you visit the range, or try to run to cover in a gunfight with your pants around your ankles? Strong-side IWB, tucked or untucked, will allow you to draw and fire accurately in less than two seconds, with practice, and also gives you two fast magazine reloads.
If you are a slim female that either likes to (or is required to) wear fitted clothing, or Bruce Jenner, then you are not going to be able to conceal a pistol on your waist, or probably anywhere on your person. Fortunately, there are many tactical purse options available for women, or men that like to carry a purse...not that there is anything wrong with that. The Galco one's are very well made. You will want to buy at least two identical purses, as one of them is going to get abused during training.
https://www.galcogunleather.com/del-holster-handbag_8_149_1078.html
So, now it is time to decide on a holster and magazine carriers. You will need to choose a material, and really the only two good options are a hard-molded plastic called kydex, real leather, or a combination of the two. Avoid the cheap cloth and neoprene holsters. Most people say that kydex holsters are more durable and leather holsters are more comfortable. I prefer a combination of kydex and leather, like the Comp-Tac CTAC or MTAC Holsters. The C-Clips are less obvious when wearing the holster tucked.
What? You say that to by a holster you need to know which pistol it is for? Be patient. We will get there.
Now, let us assess what caliber is best suited for your concealment choice, hand size, and budget. The reality is that larger caliber pistols are bigger and heavier than smaller caliber pistols. This matters when you are wearing it, concealed, along with one or two additional magazines...all...day...every...single...day. Smaller caliber pistols give you more rounds, which is a very good thing in a gun fight. If you have smaller hands, then you are going to want to go with a smaller caliber, because the magazine fits inside of the pistol's grip. Smaller calibers, in general, have less recoil (kick), which really matters if you are going to select a light-weight gun for everyday carry. Some will argue, endlessly it seems, that larger calibers are more effective at stopping the bad guy. I believe the evidence shows that any truth to this, "stopping power," argument is far outweighed by the, "shot placement," argument, which is essentially that what really matters is if, and where, you hit the bad guy, not how big is the hole that is made by the bullet. The only thing any pistol does is make holes in people; there are no magic-exploding bullets that send the bad guy flying backwards out of the room...even in .45 Long Colt. This isn't Hollywood. Lastly, in regards to cost, usually larger caliber ammunition is more expensive.
With all of that being said, it should be obvious that I favor the smaller calibers for concealed carry, such as the 9mm. Or, for something a little more exotic, the 5.7x28mm (same caliber as an AR-15/M-16 rifle with less powder), if you want high capacity, and light weight, and very-low recoil, and the ability penetrate many types of body armor, and if the higher prices for pistol and ammunition are not a concern, and if you are ready, willing, and able, to come by SS190 carry ammunition from sources other than your local gun store where it is illegal for them to sell it, but not illegal for you to have it, in most places. Know your local gun laws, no matter how unconstitutional, illogical, and draconian: they are for your protection/sarc/
At this point, finally, we can assess what pistols are available in your selected caliber for your concealment choice, hand size, and budget. It is 2015, so I am just not going to consider revolvers for personal defense, even though I am a bad-ass-mother-fucker with my Colt SAA, and I love my precious Peacemaker dearly. My personal recommendations for semi-automatic self-defense concealed carry pistol manufacturers are FNH and H&K, because both make highly reliable DA models that do have a safety lever, and it is not on the trigger. This preference will absolutely infuriate Glock lovers. Oh well. I have several reasons why, but the primary one is that I like to keep the fight cycle consistent for all weapons: pistol, rifle, and shotgun. We are required to knock-off the safety for both rifle and shotgun, so we must train to do it, because it is very bad (potentially life threatening) to not train to disengage and/or engage the safety on a weapon that has a safety. Therefore, I want a safety on my pistol, too, to keep things simple and consistent in my brain. In addition, I believe that it is indeed more safe to have a true safety on a firearm. The Glock-style "safety" on the trigger simply does not count, it does not prevent the pistol from firing when the trigger is pulled, like a safety on a rifle or shotgun do.
Given the choice of single-action, double-action, double-action/single-action, and double-action-only, I prefer the latter, again, to keep the fight cycle simple and consistent with the rifle and semi-automatic shotgun.
When available, I prefer the smaller frame models, also known as, "compact," for concealed carry, as they are easier to conceal. Duh.
I don't have a preference on striker fired, or not, as I have never been a Glock fan, for reasons already discussed, and therefore never had any reason to own a striker-fired pistol.
I do require front and rear tritium night sight. Period. Trying to hit a bad guy in the dark, under stress, without being able to see the fucking sights, is both very difficult and very, very, scary. I don't want my light mounted to my pistol, as it makes for an easy target. I do want to hold my light away from me and my pistol.
Lasers on pistols are essentially useless, unless they are IR, it is pitch black, and you are using Night Vision Goggles, then they are The_Fucking_Shit. So, a mounting rail isn't totally useless on a pistol.
I cannot guarantee it, but I think this leaves me with the following choices for current models.
In 9mm:
http://www.fnhusa.com/products/handguns/fns-series/fns-9-compact/
http://hk-usa.com/hk-models/p30sk/
In 5.7x28:
http://www.fnhusa.com/products/handguns/fn-five-seven/five-seven/
My personnel choice for the last many years is the FN FiveseveN. It is so reliable that I had to make a training magazine that will cause stoppages in order to be able to train myself on dealing with stoppages. However, if you get one, make sure it has the metal magazine release, and not the plastic one that came on the very early models. Use factory FNH 20-round magazines, not the Pro-Mag 30-round crap.
Ok. Now go buy your pistol! Don't worry if you don't know how to buy a firearm. It is easy. Walk into a gun shop. Tell them exactly what you want. Write it down, or print off the web page. They will do the rest. If they must order it, no problem. You can wait. Don't let them sell you some other pistol that is in stock, because nobody else wants it either.
Finally, and most important, complete the following courses in this order:
- One half-day tactical folding knife class; $150.
- 2-3 weekends of Tactical Pistol Courses; $1,000.
- One day of Self and Family Emergency Medical Aid/Trauma Kit Course; $150.
- A series of several two-hour self-defense classes (not martial arts classes); $200.
- Fulfillment of requirements for concealed handgun permit; $250.
You should learn in these classes how to safely conduct dry-fire training at home with your pistol and your dummy knife. Do this on a regular basis, such as once per week for just 5 minutes, and soon you could finally be ready, willing, and able to defend your person, liberty, and property, should you be faced with a situation where, "serious bodily injury or death is imminent," and chances are very good that it will not take you 84 shots to, "stop," the bad guy.
Be safe.
Peace!
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I tend to think that a lot of articles on ZH are either to test sentiment or to jerk with people... while appearing to be some form of resistance to the tyrannical side of the dialectic.
It is therefore fun to either play it straight or jerk with those jerking with us, depending on the situation. This article by HH is dangerous either way. No one wants a race war except those in power who are afraid of the people and cannot imagine what life would be like if they were not in power. Maybe they should think about it ... for the good of the world.
LOL! The race war has been raging for over 40 years. You're obviously some upper middle class white dude that never lived around real blacks. You have no fucking clue.
No blacks here where I live. One day in August of this year I saw 3 different black men in one day around town and I was amazed. They don't seem to have an attitude when in a severe minority. Mexicans on the other hand make up 33% of my county. In the grocery store two days ago I took an aisle that turned out to be somewhat crowded. Of the aprox. 15 people including myself 12 were Mexican and 3 whites. At this level some of the muchachos are starting to show "attitude" anytime during the day. Lucky for us here in reomote South Idaho the .gov is unloading about 2000 Syrian refugees come Oct-Nov. Muslims are showing up everywhere. The future is looking dim.
That's horrible. People think Idaho is a white enclave of America but I guess it no longer is. Is there anywhere on Earth white people can go to live among their own people? Apparently not.
White women stopped having white babies and white men stopped defending the borders. It's over for white people.
I agree. The race angle is gratuitous.
incendiary, even.
might even be some nascent bloodlust behind it.
such are the times
My black neighbors are in my circle of trust. Stereotypical happy go lucky, hard working Saint Lucians. Got some white trash up the block with no pride of ownership whatsoever. That is who I will be keeping my eye on in tough times. Every neighborhood is different.
I have some great black (5%) neighbors also, but the fact of the matter is that 95% of negroes are racist black trash scum(95%). At least that's how many have shit on Martin Luther King's Dream and pissed all over his grave by supporting racist programs like Affirmative Action that judge negroes based on the color of their skin and not on the content of their character.
... or move someplace where you don't need to carry a gun ....
With 20 million hispanic criminals invading every year, where the hell is that Waldo?
That's the fairytale land of rainbows, unicorns and skittles.
Two places that fit the bill, Chicago and New York City, both gun free zones.
Antarctica.
At a point in the near future Islam will become a 'thing' in the Black community, here and world wide. No place will be remotely safe...
Thanks, Farrakan.
Any weapon is not of any use if it is not locked,loaded & in one,s hand. I know,I know there are those that are Quick Draw McGraw & are fast & accurate & can take out a threat even when a weapon is already pointed at them.
A Navy Seal told me when I was 16, "If someone wants you dead your dead."
What are the stats on how many people face a life or death situation involving someone with a firearm?
How many people die from automlbile accidents when others are using a leathal weapon?
When one enters a public road they are totally responsible for their actions while using a leathal weapon. Of course driving is a god given right in the Constitution and drivers are not to be held accountable. Damn! I didn't know I could kill someone & I was forced to be negligent.
Wikipedia:"In a depraved-heart murder, defendants commit an act even though they know their act runs an unusually high risk of causing death or serious bodily harm to someone else"
If one kills with an auto the risk becomes mute.The victim is dead. Of course,if the victim was armed he could have stopped the car.
My pretzel logic is superior to gun lovers pretzel logic.
Hope no one's loved one's are mutilated or killed in a car accident.
Hey you, here's one...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwrgvqlc8DA
Hedgeless, I will give you credit for writing that one.
An FN is what a Glock wants to be when it grows up.
The most important factor is: what you carry you practice continually with.
(snicker)
I Hate Glocks pt. 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTEswkc4lPs
Notice that the cops are doing all the murdering, yet somehow "all white people" is the culprit in their place? How are you going to have a race war when its just cops versus poor people, black or otherwise?
Mass media writing "white people" over "cops" in their stories using subtext. It's a form of "let's you and him have a fight" devilry.
Anymore when someone writes about guns and self defence it boils down to subjective and personal opinion. For example, this author wouldn't be caught dead with a revolver because it's 2015?? Really? There are as many arguments for carrying a j-frame S&W as there are for a semi auto. They are in most cases the most power with the least physical mass. But what about "fire power"? Anyone in a firefight may realize that it can be over in 1-3 shots. That means that at close range the first guy who takes one in the face is calling time out. Are gun battles going to be fought at long range? I hope so because my favorite shooting time is practicing 25-50 yard shooting with a stub nose or short barrel semi auto. My preference in a fight is the farther away I am from a bad guy the better I like it. With that in mind one has to develope a presence of mind to be aware of his/her surroundings. The truth is that we may not be given a choice when we have to defend ourselves. I believe statistics claim that most gun fights are within 5 yards? give or take. Where to carry a sidearm? I use an ankle holster 40% of the time and the other 60% loose in my pocket or a hi rise on my belt. There is a mindset that a fight will be like the OK Corral and a quick draw response is all that can save you. At least I have a gun within reach, it's not under the seat of my car or at home in the safe. Another pissing contest that develops in these conversations is what calibre is best? The best calibre is the one you have with you when you need it. How about that shit? I like 9mm or 40 S&W but I always carry a .32 mag j frame as it weighs about 12 oz loaded and I have six shots. If it isn't over in six of my shots I will probably have already lost anyway. Second, I somtimes carry an additional or alternate in....drum roll... .22lr. Yep, obviously some asshole will go off the deep end that a 45acp, .357 mag, .44 mag etc. is the minumum neccessary for survival but just for a test if anyone cares to offer themselves as a target from 2-25 yards I will be glad to show you how much a .22lr smarts or even kills. We can limit the test to the testicles and below but trust me it won't be fun. So, another carry story, another personal opinion, including mine. I have been carrying legal and illegal for 49 years. Illegal because I have the right to defend myself and .gov or not I will have a gun on or near me. For these 49 years I have never drawn my gun, shot someone or defended myself. I was always ready and that is a mindset in itself. On the plus side, carrying less than a 16oz weapon and never using it is better than carrying a big powerful heavy (15 shot magazine) cannon and then find that you are leaving it behind because of the extra weight.
Good statement. I generally carry a wheelgun because it will not fail, and I shoot it every week when I am home.
It's loaded with good self-defense rounds.
Carry on, men!
I'll stick with my old Browning HiPower since I know it well. I've had it for 35 years. I have a conceal carry permit but my HiPower is not very concealable since I have no holster for that purpose. It has the 3 Tritium Dot sights. Plain Jane. I have it loaded with HydroShoks at my bedside.
The Browning HiPower was the pistol of choice for a long time for many Special Ops forces. If it was good enough for them, it'll do for me.
And I still like the Mossberg .12ga pump gun(w/extended mag) I'm holding in my avatar with its 18 1/2 barrel for home defense.
hairball
For me no pistol sits as nice and points as naturally as the old browning hi power. Carrying it cocked and locked makes me nervous, probably go with a hammerless HK for everyday waist carry.
The Browning HP is fine for concealed carry with proper training, just get a good OWB or appendix holster and a stack of Tommy Bahama shirts, and attend a really good class, and practice, practice practice.
HH is a good man, that is clear. I might say that there IS a race war going on only the Whites are not fighting back, they are TAKING IT.
Of course the mainstream media makes sure the Televitz OMITS such facts! See: http://newnation.org/
They want Whites to be completely defenseless against the colored majority. When a White defends him or herself .gov and the people of color lobby howl for that White's blood! The white middle class says nothing about the ongoing genocide of Whites, because they have been brainwashed by schools, churches, .gov, the televitz and Hollyweird. Our people are being slaughtered AND NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT IT!
The Race War of Black Against White
by Paul Sheehan. Saturday, 20 May 1995
The Sydney Morning Herald (Australia)
South Africa, and be not fooled, this is YOUR fate also Whites in America, UNLESS and UNTIL you RISE UP!!!
THE COMING DARKNESS: A Warning for Americans: A message from South Africa
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I put my faith in God and the Mauser
~ Boer General Ben Viljoen
'You must carry your gun and your Bible together at once'
~ Afrikaner Werner Selzer, 2010
http://www.nrahq.org/
http://gunowners.org/
http://www.gundigest.com/article/ObamaExpose/
When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."
--Rudyard Kipling
"The Gods of the Copybook Heading"
“Indeed, as an American woman pointed out, if the racial proportions in the United States were reversed, so that the whites formed only ten percent of an otherwise completely coloured nation, no one would expect white parents to insist on the right of their children to attend coloured schools. No, certainly they would not; because for one thing there would not be any white people left at all. They would be massacred to the last man, woman and child.”
WHITE MAN, THINK AGAIN! by Anthony Jacob, Johannesburg 1965
Nice gun guide. Thanks.
But I hope your prepping is much deeper than that. Guns should not be higher that fifth on your prepping list. Those who think guns are the ultimate in prepping should just admit that if SHTF their plan is to steal and loot from those who really are prepared.
It's our sense of community that will really save us. If your place in your community is the armed defender of the peace, than thank you.
I still put bicycles higher than guns.
Nah, I'm pretty sure I can hit someone on a bike, even with a moderate sized rock.
Fifth? Let's see. I'm a zombie with a gun who wants a bicycle, and you're an upstanding citizen with a bicycle. It won't be long before I have a gun and a bicycle.
Just my $.02 --
If you live in a state or municipality that has bizarro-world gun laws, one of the most cheap, effective and 'stealthy' weapons to have handy, is a staff. And it doesn't take long to become proficient with one. Roughly 60 inches of turned bamboo or even hardwood if you have sufficient strength to wield properly, will give you superior 'leverage' in close quarters.
That and a rottweiler on a leash, and if nothing else, the perps are likely to pick an easier target.
I sometimes wander around with an old Hogan sand wedge - fore!
While I have gotten lazy and started carrying a .380 auto... something I need to correct, you are incorrect so far as disregarding the size hole the bullet drills ... generally bigger is better. And most gunfights I have seen... forced to watch numerous real life fights during tactical training... are over within the first twenty rounds or so...
But here is something you must be prepared for. A handgun will often not stop an assailant immediately. And even a direct headshot is no guarantee. One of the most impressive films I ever saw a fellow took 15 rounds, most directly Into the head and several fired only inches away, before he stopped fighting back. In another a cop put a round through an assailants heart and his attacker was still able to kill him.
Handguns do a poor job of damaging surrounding tissue, and even a soft nose bullet will more often than not, not expand... so called safety slugs... hollowed out and filled with shot, and covered by a thin layer of plastic... are not much better. As a consequence drilling a bigger hole does at least damage more tissue.
The problem is the low muzzle velocity of the handgun vs a rifle... which will drop a target instantly with a headshot...
Well I do not claim to be an expert in fire control but I do find a Browing Hi-Power with 3 30 round clips taped together able to make a lot of noise and eventually actually hit something.
A tip - do not load the clips past about 25 rounds as they are subject to jamming at full capacity and a little WD-40 helps.
Me thinks you've never fired a Hi Power.
30 Round clip? WD-40?
Are you a congress critter?
Yeah, that wd-40 is made to penetrate things, things like primer pockets... Hi-powers take magazines not clips and how the hell do you conceal a 30 round mag in a hi-power or any other pistol?
WD-40 is used to kill primers.
But highly amusing disinformational trolling.
I have a Ruger LCR. I disagree with the pain and recoil assessments. I practice with both .357 and .38. An 80 lb girl might complain but I don’t know. We read this:
“NYPD Cops Fire 84 Shots At Murder Suspect, Miss 83 Times”
ISIS reads this too. No wonder they threaten Trump and Buffet and the Koch Brothers.
You make a great point about limitations. Heads shots I guess.
It's a sad but true fact of life, that pistols of whatever caliber or description are hard as hell to hit anything with at any kind of distance. Especially under the stress of combat, which reduces the accuracy you can achieve at the range by 50 percent -- and that is if, I say if, you are well trained. I'd bet the farm that more than ninety percent of people who carry concealed imagine themselves to be much better armed than they actually are.
Your most lethal weapon is the grey matter between your ears. If your assailant is at a distance you can either take cover and wait for them to close or just get away.
A rifle or shotgun is best but see how far you get carrying one around. If you have any sort of urban life, discretion means a handgun.
both above comments ring true with me,
after 1,500 rounds of training with the handgun I expect I am 1,000-2,000 rounds away from being HALF as good with a pistol as I am with a shotgun or rifle in the intended range of the pistol, plus the rifle is good much further out.
Some folks I have seen learn pistol craft easier than i, but I've been a county boy with a shotgun or rifle outdoors nearly weekly, certainly monthly, for 35 years longer than I have had a concealed carry permit.
Even here in Rural Oregon where I can "Open Carry " (and folks do) in Walmart and Home Depot, its always a holstered handgun, never once seen anybody come to town with a sholder fired gun slung across their back at a store.
That would be just wierd,
but hiking in the mountaints, its totally fine to see someon with an AK or AR or hunting shotgun or bolt action with them, armed society is polite society.
I've got a 3 year old to worry about and we have bear and mountain lion paw prints show up in our area, Even seen a little black bear once walk down my street at 0500 one Monday as I drug out the trash can to the side of the road. this Morning a wild turkey was next door, and the night before it was a doe in the same neighbors yard at dusk.
critters never seem to show up when i have my shotgun and license in hand though
same could be said about trouble, so need to learn to use the pistol and not leave the fenced enclosure without it for any reason.
"armed society is polite society" +10
EXACTLY!! This is something liberals in NYC cannot fathom. When I can get one of them to stop berating me with Soros' talking points long enough to actually listen to a question I ask them:
"Why are there no mass shootings at gun shows? "
Typically the lib short circuits and commences personal attacks....
Sad and true...
Tough being a libertarian-minded single mixed-race guy in the city (and a lot of other places) these days :(
With modern hollow points, round size is a lot less important. A hydrashok in anything 9mm or over is going to take care of most anyone. I personally carry a G43, the new single stack 9mm with an extra mag, and always have something bigger in the truck. I used to carry around a sig 229 .40, but with kids and having to bend down all the time, I got tired of accidentally showing my gun to anyone who happened to be looking.
Quality rounds and shot location are what counts, not the caliber. For what it's worth to you guys(DYODD) a while back some friends and I fired a bunch of rounds into sand and dug them out to see how well the expanded , and the ONLY kind that worked every time was the federal hydrashok. Hornadys were very disappointing(bought a box of that zombie Zmax stuff) as were the other regular big name brands. The 9, .40, and especially .45 opened up like some kind of horrible flower every single time, and that is now all I load for carry rounds in every pistol I own. They are expensive, but after testing them out, if my life ever depends on a round , that's what i want.
I don't know about that. I worked part time in a local ER a few summers ago to make some extra $$$ and saw some 240+ pound coke heads come in who were still fighting even with 4, 5, 6, 8, bullets in them ... 9mm was not powerful enough to stop these monsters. If they are wearing some thick clothing it's even worse. The police told me you need at least .38 +P for protection, plus good placement.
Scary stuff.
A .38+ isn't any more potent than a good 9mm. No handgun cartrige has "stopping power" in the true sense of the word. That's what rifles and shotguns are for.
I've had it said that Liberty hollow points have VERY deep cavities, but the issue is that in a semi-, they sometimes can catch on reload if there's not enough slant leading up to the barrel.
This was't widely reported:
Israel has shot down a Syrian Fighter Jet flying into Israeli Air Space2 Sept.
Wrong thread.
That part about never pointing a gun at someone you don't intend to shoot gets by a lot of people, what that means is never allow the barrel of a gun you are holding to pass across the body of any individual. This means that frequently your gun should be pointed down or up in circumstances where people are present, if you are shifting the position of a weapon you plan your movement in advance accordingly. I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand but you see it a lot. It's usually the people that are the most comfortable with weapons that do this.
If you are out shooting somewhere and someone passes a barrel across your face get the hell out of there and away from that genius as quick as possible.
Yeah, here is a very good [and very sad] example of what NOT to do:
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/terry-kath-strange-rock-deaths/