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Guide for Learning to Use a Sidearm to Defend Yourself, Your Loved Ones, and Your Property, Should a Race War Break Out
Bastiat says in, The Law:
Each of us has a natural right — from God — to defend his person, his liberty, and his property. These are the three basic requirements of life, and the preservation of any one of them is completely dependent upon the preservation of the other two.
So, maybe you have watched videos like those of Louis Farrakhan urging the black community to, "Rise up and kill those who kill us," and of this black activist saying that, "It’s open season on killing crackers and white cops." You probably say to yourself, "Why aren't they arrested for making terroristic threats? Maybe there really will be a race war." You would like to take the advice of this man, and carry a gun to defend yourself, but you don't know where to start, you are too embarrassed to ask your ignorant-gun-freak relative, and you are afraid that if you make your own plan you might end up as incompetent as the NYPD cops are at stopping the bad guy that is trying to kill you.
NYPD Cops Fire 84 Shots At Murder Suspect, Miss 83 Times
Fret not, Zerohedge reader, whether you are a, "cracker," or a, "nigger," or other, I give to you, without fee or warranty, hedgeless_horseman's E-Z Internet Guide for Learning to Use a Sidearm to Defend Yourself, Your Loved Ones, and Your Property, Should a Race War Break Out.
Some of what we will cover is also found in my article, Fear we are returning to a time in history where it is a common occurrence to fight for one's life? For example, I recommend that you begin learning to use a pistol to defend yourself by learning to use a knife to defend yourself. Why? Well, first, it is an inexpensive and low-risk way to discover who the good tactical instructors are in your area. Second, the learning curve for a knife is much shorter, and can also serve to shorten the learning curve for a handgun. Third, a knife can be more effective than a pistol in many situations. Fourth, there are many situations when, or where, you simply cannot carry a pistol, but you can carry a knife. Finally, a knife is a good back-up to a malfunctioning pistol, or more likely a malfunctioning shooter.
Brian Hoffner offers a package with very good knife, a matching training knife, and a DVD for $119. Benchmade no longer makes the LFTi model that I have frequently recommended.
Brian explains that when you and your knife go to court, you want a simple-folding knife without an assist (so the DA doesn't claim you have an illegal switchblade), and within the legal-length limit for concealed carry in your specific area. You do not want to be carrying an illegal weapon, or even what is perceived to be an illegal weapon, especially if you are a black man in America, so know the law for where you live.
With a knife, just like with a firearm, the best knife is the knife that you know. So, first take a class from a reputable instructor, then either buy or make a matching training knife (blunt) and practice regularly. You should get to the point where you can reliably deploy your knife with one hand in about half-a-second. Carry it with you every day, either in the pocket opposite of your gun hand, or in the middle of your front beltline, and keep it sharp with one of these Benchmade Mini-Tactical Pro Sharpeners.
Now...on to the gun!
First, before handling a firearm, it is most important for EVERYONE in the household to know, understand, and follow these four safety rules:
- Treat all weapons as if they are loaded.
- Do not point the weapon at anyone or anything that you do not want to shoot, kill, or destroy.
- Do not put your finger on the trigger until you have 1) target, 2) sights on target, and 3) perception that either A) "serious bodily injury or death is imminent for myself or another person," or B) firing range is hot and training drill is live.
- Be aware of, and take responsibility for, all bystanders that may be behind or near the target.
I will add a fifth rule, to the common four, which is to not be under the influence of any mind-altering chemical such as alcohol or dope when handling a firearm.
I absolutely refuse to be within a mile of anyone that I see not following these rules, which is why I generally avoid public gun ranges, and suggest that you shoot at a nice, lonely, high, dirt hill, way out in the boonies, or pay for a membership at a private tactical range that screens all members and guests and has at least 270 degree bays.
Next, and I cannot stress this point enough, get instruction from an experienced professional. Specifically, take at least two weekends of tactical pistol training. It does not matter whether you are a 10-year veteran of law enforcement, a Marine with two tours in the sandbox, or both, you will still learn much and improve significantly with good instruction. Taking the state's required, "course," to test for a concealed handgun license (CHL) is not even close to adequate instruction. Usually, all the CHL course does is inform you of the laws regarding concealed carry, and assign you with some basic level of proficiency that can be used against you in court.
The worst approach, in my humble opinion, is to buy a pistol and a cheap holster that is, "made for this gun," at the gun store, take the CHL test the next week, and start to carry your weapon as soon as your permit arrives in the mail. If you follow this path, you are a danger to yourself and your loved ones, and not a real threat to the bad guys.
A sane approach is as follows.
By and install (drill and bolts) a Gunvault GV200D gunsafe next to your bedside. I am not necessarily suggesting that you keep your gun LOCKED in the safe at night. However, I am suggesting that you will often need a SAFE and CONVENIENT place to keep your pistol in its holster when it is not on your person. Pro tip: If you keep your pistol in its holster when you take it off and put it on each day, then you are less likely to have an unintended discharge, as the trigger is covered by the holster.
Assess what type and location of concealment is best suited for the clothing you wear on a daily basis. Do not open carry, even if it is legal, as it gives away a significant tactical advantage, and makes you a priority target.
If you are a male, then I strongly suggest that you will want to carry your pistol in a holster, on your waist, on the strong side of your body (are you right or left handed?), somewhere between your belly button and your spine. You will want to carry spare magazines in the same location on your weak side. Some say that an exception to this exists if you spend your day sitting in a vehicle, and then you may wish to consider a cross-draw shoulder holster, but even then, I suggest a seat mounted holster between your legs, and transition to a strong side waist holster when you need to leave the vehicle.
If you wear a shirt tucked in, even with a coat most of the time, then I suggest that you are best suited with an inside-the-waistband-tuckable holster. Tuckable means the shirt tucks over the portion of the pistol above the waistband and belt.
If you are able to wear an untucked shirt, vest, or jacket, 100% of the time, then you have many more options. However, I still recommend an inside-the-waistband-tuckable holster and magazine carriers, but don't tuck the shirt. Do, however, wear a long A-shirt between the pistol and your skin.
Strong-side inside the waist band (IWB) gives adequate concealment with maximum utility. Sure, you can probably hide a .380 pocket pistol in your crotch, but who really wants to drop trou' just to draw your weapon 20+ times when you visit the range, or try to run to cover in a gunfight with your pants around your ankles? Strong-side IWB, tucked or untucked, will allow you to draw and fire accurately in less than two seconds, with practice, and also gives you two fast magazine reloads.
If you are a slim female that either likes to (or is required to) wear fitted clothing, or Bruce Jenner, then you are not going to be able to conceal a pistol on your waist, or probably anywhere on your person. Fortunately, there are many tactical purse options available for women, or men that like to carry a purse...not that there is anything wrong with that. The Galco one's are very well made. You will want to buy at least two identical purses, as one of them is going to get abused during training.
https://www.galcogunleather.com/del-holster-handbag_8_149_1078.html
So, now it is time to decide on a holster and magazine carriers. You will need to choose a material, and really the only two good options are a hard-molded plastic called kydex, real leather, or a combination of the two. Avoid the cheap cloth and neoprene holsters. Most people say that kydex holsters are more durable and leather holsters are more comfortable. I prefer a combination of kydex and leather, like the Comp-Tac CTAC or MTAC Holsters. The C-Clips are less obvious when wearing the holster tucked.
What? You say that to by a holster you need to know which pistol it is for? Be patient. We will get there.
Now, let us assess what caliber is best suited for your concealment choice, hand size, and budget. The reality is that larger caliber pistols are bigger and heavier than smaller caliber pistols. This matters when you are wearing it, concealed, along with one or two additional magazines...all...day...every...single...day. Smaller caliber pistols give you more rounds, which is a very good thing in a gun fight. If you have smaller hands, then you are going to want to go with a smaller caliber, because the magazine fits inside of the pistol's grip. Smaller calibers, in general, have less recoil (kick), which really matters if you are going to select a light-weight gun for everyday carry. Some will argue, endlessly it seems, that larger calibers are more effective at stopping the bad guy. I believe the evidence shows that any truth to this, "stopping power," argument is far outweighed by the, "shot placement," argument, which is essentially that what really matters is if, and where, you hit the bad guy, not how big is the hole that is made by the bullet. The only thing any pistol does is make holes in people; there are no magic-exploding bullets that send the bad guy flying backwards out of the room...even in .45 Long Colt. This isn't Hollywood. Lastly, in regards to cost, usually larger caliber ammunition is more expensive.
With all of that being said, it should be obvious that I favor the smaller calibers for concealed carry, such as the 9mm. Or, for something a little more exotic, the 5.7x28mm (same caliber as an AR-15/M-16 rifle with less powder), if you want high capacity, and light weight, and very-low recoil, and the ability penetrate many types of body armor, and if the higher prices for pistol and ammunition are not a concern, and if you are ready, willing, and able, to come by SS190 carry ammunition from sources other than your local gun store where it is illegal for them to sell it, but not illegal for you to have it, in most places. Know your local gun laws, no matter how unconstitutional, illogical, and draconian: they are for your protection/sarc/
At this point, finally, we can assess what pistols are available in your selected caliber for your concealment choice, hand size, and budget. It is 2015, so I am just not going to consider revolvers for personal defense, even though I am a bad-ass-mother-fucker with my Colt SAA, and I love my precious Peacemaker dearly. My personal recommendations for semi-automatic self-defense concealed carry pistol manufacturers are FNH and H&K, because both make highly reliable DA models that do have a safety lever, and it is not on the trigger. This preference will absolutely infuriate Glock lovers. Oh well. I have several reasons why, but the primary one is that I like to keep the fight cycle consistent for all weapons: pistol, rifle, and shotgun. We are required to knock-off the safety for both rifle and shotgun, so we must train to do it, because it is very bad (potentially life threatening) to not train to disengage and/or engage the safety on a weapon that has a safety. Therefore, I want a safety on my pistol, too, to keep things simple and consistent in my brain. In addition, I believe that it is indeed more safe to have a true safety on a firearm. The Glock-style "safety" on the trigger simply does not count, it does not prevent the pistol from firing when the trigger is pulled, like a safety on a rifle or shotgun do.
Given the choice of single-action, double-action, double-action/single-action, and double-action-only, I prefer the latter, again, to keep the fight cycle simple and consistent with the rifle and semi-automatic shotgun.
When available, I prefer the smaller frame models, also known as, "compact," for concealed carry, as they are easier to conceal. Duh.
I don't have a preference on striker fired, or not, as I have never been a Glock fan, for reasons already discussed, and therefore never had any reason to own a striker-fired pistol.
I do require front and rear tritium night sight. Period. Trying to hit a bad guy in the dark, under stress, without being able to see the fucking sights, is both very difficult and very, very, scary. I don't want my light mounted to my pistol, as it makes for an easy target. I do want to hold my light away from me and my pistol.
Lasers on pistols are essentially useless, unless they are IR, it is pitch black, and you are using Night Vision Goggles, then they are The_Fucking_Shit. So, a mounting rail isn't totally useless on a pistol.
I cannot guarantee it, but I think this leaves me with the following choices for current models.
In 9mm:
http://www.fnhusa.com/products/handguns/fns-series/fns-9-compact/
http://hk-usa.com/hk-models/p30sk/
In 5.7x28:
http://www.fnhusa.com/products/handguns/fn-five-seven/five-seven/
My personnel choice for the last many years is the FN FiveseveN. It is so reliable that I had to make a training magazine that will cause stoppages in order to be able to train myself on dealing with stoppages. However, if you get one, make sure it has the metal magazine release, and not the plastic one that came on the very early models. Use factory FNH 20-round magazines, not the Pro-Mag 30-round crap.
Ok. Now go buy your pistol! Don't worry if you don't know how to buy a firearm. It is easy. Walk into a gun shop. Tell them exactly what you want. Write it down, or print off the web page. They will do the rest. If they must order it, no problem. You can wait. Don't let them sell you some other pistol that is in stock, because nobody else wants it either.
Finally, and most important, complete the following courses in this order:
- One half-day tactical folding knife class; $150.
- 2-3 weekends of Tactical Pistol Courses; $1,000.
- One day of Self and Family Emergency Medical Aid/Trauma Kit Course; $150.
- A series of several two-hour self-defense classes (not martial arts classes); $200.
- Fulfillment of requirements for concealed handgun permit; $250.
You should learn in these classes how to safely conduct dry-fire training at home with your pistol and your dummy knife. Do this on a regular basis, such as once per week for just 5 minutes, and soon you could finally be ready, willing, and able to defend your person, liberty, and property, should you be faced with a situation where, "serious bodily injury or death is imminent," and chances are very good that it will not take you 84 shots to, "stop," the bad guy.
Be safe.
Peace!
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Race war break out? It has been going on since "cocanized Negros" were discovered in 1914.
Since evil jazz was discovered by Harry Anslinger.
I don't think it would be a race war, more likely it would be an EBT zombie war...lol
More like a complete breakdown and chaos. Not even Katrina can compare. People just killing each other regardless of race. If you've got it, or are in the way, expect to get hit, especially if you happen to find yourself in the war zone.
Think Rawanda from the 90's.
It's not like the different races will line up against each other like something from the Civil War, it'll just be opportunity killings.
Will there be blacks killing whites, yeah, but also whites killing blacks, hispanics killing whites or blacks, even same races killing same races, etc.
It'll become totally tribal in the realm of gang bangers. Like how they can name themselves after the street they hang out on and be totally at war with another gang one street over.
Ultimately the value of life suffers deflation like everything else.
Good solid advice, HH. Awhile back we bought a Benelli after you had mentioned it and the whole family loves it and now feels comfortabel with it if someone breaks in.
The retired FBI fellow down the block shows me how he carries his sidearm; it's a concealed hammer snub .38P+ that he says he can fire right thru his jacket if he has to if he does not have time to draw. Carries it in his pocket with no holster. Sounds reasonable.
Sig Sauer P938....perfect compromise in size and rounds....7+1. Who dons't love a mini 1911...Paton Special
Kimber in 380, not Colt.
like kimber, like my custom II .45apc..not good for cc, but good at home and open carry.
Railed SIG 1911 for home defense.
P229 SAS for carry. Love that decocker.
Just bought a P320 carry for my first delve into striker fired pistols.
I agree. Fuck Glock. Stupid grip angle and almost as ugly as a Hi Point.
P229 SAS for carry.
This. P229 is among the very best ccw pistols for a whole slew of reasons.
SIGs, CZ and Berettas always seem to be very accurate.
How does this stupid shit make it onto ZH? I need a shower after reading this filth.
Should we plug your drain and make your shower is leak proof? Just wondering.
And, when you do take a shower make sure you collect the runoff. We wouldn't that toxic shit running down the drain to eventually make its way out to some river or ocean. Would make the Fukushima disaster look pale by comparison. You know there's nothing like the toxic sludge of Full Libtard to destroy everything in its path.
Think of the environment and drink your own waste and do everyone a favor by reducing your carbon footprint to zero.
It also did not help that you needed a shower BEFORE the reading of this filthy shit.
Patchouli is an awful scent anyway.
Please do take a shower, you reek of liberal horseshit.
Tuckable holsters and inside the waist are fine for skinny young, non professionals who walk around with their shirt hanking out - I guess. My experience with "tuckables" is that they suck - you've got your weapon crammed into your crotch area and have to pull the waistline open to get to it - not really practical. If you are an adult that cannot walk around with your shirt hanging out I recommend a air weight 38 special snub nose revolver and a pocket holster. Five shots will see you through a firefight - and that's all it will be. Your or your attacker will be down. You can carry strip reloaders if you think you are going to be firing from cover and having to reload, but the odds of that are lottery. Go to the range and fire at least a thousand rounds through your revolver ( if you get a semi auto it is critical that you do this to flesh out potential problems, don't forget to break down and grease the slides as well). Forget the constipated goose stance that the "instructors" teach, shoot with your strong hand and with your weak hand, one handed. You will not have time to do the ballerina spread if attacked - Cowboys just drew and shot. Practicing from the hip (hand/eye) is valuable also. The newer models of pistols are semi auto and are double action only, requiring a round cocked in the chamber for fast use or requiring the user to rake the pistol before putting a round in the chamber before the pistol is ready to fire. I think they are essentially dangerous to conceal carry and I've heard reports of people shooting themselves with them. A revolver requires a pull of the trigger, double action, or the hammer can be cocked for single action, and is not going to go off in your pants if you yank it out. Revolvers are not tempermental about ammo - any factory load is going down range - not necessarily so with a semi auto). Remember, air weight, snub nose 38 special - old school but safer and more reliable - packs a greater punch than a 380 and they are a lot cheaper. Get a shrouded hammer.
I bought my wife a 38 special S&W light weight and even with a laser neither she nor I could hit shit with it, and we are both reasonably good shots. I have a couple of the FNH 57s and love them but the ammo got impossible to find a while back so I backed off shooting them as much. I do agree with staying with similar platforms and predominantly stay with 1911 architecture. Of course there is a limitation in capacity and they typically weigh more, but are hard to beat. Some are available in double stack and I had one custom built by Infinity a few years back and it is awesome. Also Rock Island makes some nice pistols in 1911, some as double stack such as their TCM 22 which is a beast. It basically comes with a 22 tcm barrel and a 9mm so you can interchange, The 22 tcm uses a 22 caliber bullet mounted on a bottlenecked roughly 9mm cartridge which provides over 2000 ft/sec muzzle velocity which can penetrate 1/4" steel. Comparable to the FNH 57 at less cost. I enjoy shooting 45s and have them in many configurations including the FNH FNP45 which is an excellent gun, but what I have been buying of late is the 10mm. High capacity and greater kinetic energy than a 45.
To carry is a problem for any of these, especially if you are concerned about actually concealing AND comfort. I have not found a solution so I still don't carry. While I understand the advantages of concealment, I am concerned about the consequences of public exposure of a concealed weapon. I have heard some horror stories.
I enjoy working with guns but don't have big delusions about some of the consequences we face. While I agree training is important, I still see our biggest challenge is being mentally prepared to do what is necessary. The ability to pull the trigger, so to speak.
I'm with you on the 10mm. Looking forward to shooting it soon.
I agree with Blussman. I tell people "new" to weapons that their first gun should be a snub nosed 38.
The only weapon you can fire from inside a coat pocket, twice, is a hammerless 38 (S&W or Taurus sell very nice hammerless 38s).
Still, all pistols that are concealed carry require a "time" to get to the ready. That equates to a "distance". If a stranger turns a corner and is within 30 to 40' most poeple are not going to be able to defend themselves with a concealed handgun. If it is deep concealed, it might be even further. At some point, as the threat advances, you do not have time to get your weapon.
For real close.... you need a quick draw folding knife. And while you may not know anything about this type of weapon, I assure you, the guy that walked out of the alley knows it very well.
My personal choice is a Strong pocket holster carrying a Berretta Tom Cat. I’m a little guy and carry it in my hip pocket just like a second wallet. The only purpose of a belly gun is to give you time to get to your rifle. My car gun is a Berretta 92 backed up by a M-4 carbine with a Nikon scope.
I have several class 3’s but they are not my choice for when things get interesting. I was on my organization’s pistol team for some years and have some experience shooting. A cheap and efficient way to work on your snap shooting skills is to buy and airsoft pistol of the same make as that of your primary. Set up a jell target in your study and have at it. Forget about your sights in distances of less than 25 feet and learn to point and shoot. The first round if on target is the decision maker.
Exactly right, Blussman. It's hard to get good stats, but from what I've read from old-school gunners with real-world experience, it's likely that 90 percent of self defense shootings are at contact distance, a.k.a. within arm's reach. For which a snubby is plenty accurate. If the perp grabs your auto, it's likely your slide won't function, and you'll get one shot off but the rest of your 57 rounds will remain in the magazine. With a shrouded-hammer revolver, the perp is not going to stop the cylinder from rotating or the hammer from dropping, even with his hand around it. Additionally, in case of a misfire, you don't have to clear the chamber and rack another round, just press the trigger again. And no such thing as a stovepipe or failure to feed due to limp wristing. If you're worried about multiple perps, carry your wonder nine in addition to the snubby. This enables you to execute a New York reload, which is defined as pulling another gun.
But always, always remember, kids, that the purpose of your pistol and your shotgun is to fight your way to your rifle. Until you've got a rifle in your hands that you can reach out and touch someone with at 200-plus yards, you aren't really armed. Especially not when we're talking about protecting your loved ones and your property.
And pray that you don't run into a group of 3-4 bad guys!
If you do decide to go with a pocket pistol, it is hard to beat a 9mm Rohrbaugh R9s. Too bad they are out of business. You have 6+1 instead of 5 rounds, it is much thinner than the .38 revolver and much easier to conceal, and the spare single-stack magazines are tiny.
Either way, it is very painful and no fun to train with a Rohrbaugh, S&W Airweight, or any pocket pistol, due to the high recoil and small grip. Neither of them have a safety.
Be careful.
Glock Model 36, .45 Cal. ACP, Hollow Points, holstered just over my rear billfold pocket. NO safety, not needed. Quick and easy to reach when and if some thug wants some money that I don't want to give them, etc. I practice on my own property, as do all my friendly neighbors. I happen to live, (and it turned out as a very comforting "PERK"), in probably the most well armed neighborhood(upper middle class), in the MOST well armed town, withinin the Most well armed County,(major crime is driving without your seatbelt or talking on your fucking cell), residing in the MOST well armed state, AND AS WE ALL KNOW, THE MOST WELL ARMED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD! I don't leave home WITHOUT IT. NOT because I'm afraid, it gives me comfort to know I could at least have a chance to protect my family, or some innocent out there if the need be. As for ALL the WHINERS out there, I'm NOT telling YOU to buy, own, or carry a weapon, that's your own choice, just don't infringe on MY FUCKING RIGHT to do so.
Sadly the most well armed country is filled with serfs and criminals ru(i)ning the country. Really destroying the country.
Loads of guns owned by a bunch of serfs. Controlled by TV, media, Hollywood and the police state.
Dude, you finally learned how to shoot...congratulations, but please leave the advice to those of us who have been both doing it and training others to do it for decades. You are coming off like a recent religious convert, ex-smoker, ex-addict.
No safety? OMG, call the cops!!! Nigga Please.
Look into this hedgeless
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCVvlpBgQJA8g7XMvM44LwGQ
A few hours self defence class won't do the trick. Been practicing krav maga for one year now, it's very effective.
The recoil on a 38 special is no big deal. Maybe a woman might be more sensitive to same and a woman might opt for a 380 semi since she can carry in a purse. A difference of 2 rounds against 4 or 5 bad guys is negligble - if the first one drops the others will likely be gone. On the other hand, if 4 or 5 punks with guns are determined to take you out, the extra two rounds won't make any difference. If you know how to use your pistol one mght drop two or three before the others broke, if they haven't got you first. The point is, for concealed carry an adult in a suit that doesn't want to carry a shoulder holster must carry a lightweight piece and a pocket is best. Additionally, a revolver is less likely to jam due to pocket lint building up in the mechanixm.
I prefer my colt detective special. I totally agree with being proficient with offhand shooting. What I like the most about it is that pointing it reveals the fact (to the person whom you are pointing it at) that it is loaded, lethal and not some airsoft or replica gun. I'd rather not have to take a life needlessly.
I can draw it quickly and fire it accurately and I have never had a failure....should one occur...another squeeze of the trigger will rectify it.
JHP +P 38 special ....good enough
Nothing quite like taking out some bowling pins shooting from the hip.
Yee-Haw !!!
If you guys are going to be carrying a gun in your pocket, you should get a 'sticky' holster for it. It's slick on the inside so that your gun will come right out instead of dragging your pocket out with it, but non slip neoprene on the outside so it stays in your pocket. Much better than just sticking the thing in your pocket. My wife has a little SW bodyguard 38, and she only weighs about 100 pounds and has no problem shooting it, but she was also raised shooting clays with a 20 gauge over/under so she is kind of used to it. The rubber handle really takes the 'sharpness' out of the recoil. Combined with some low weigtt( reduced recoil) hydra shoks, and it's a decent defensive piece. Anything bigger and she wouldn't carry it around.
Recently relocated to the Vegas area (within 90 minutes) and worked for a pretty large Gun Range in the area for a bit. Personal defense in our household is a priority, not because of crime, but because of the potential we see coming. Nevada has open carry, which is nice, as the area we live in we regularly see people carrying and it's nice to see that no one is paranoid or behaving like hotshots. Crime of course is low, and manners are first rate. Go figure.
Niether of us open carry, but on occasion I have had it on just to get used to the feel of the weight, location, and entering/exiting the vehicle. Again, no one in the area even looks twice. My choice though is a 2 ounce Fobus paddle holster that was made for a Glock, but holds my CZ52 like the legs of a cheerleader around the neck of the girl below her on a 5 high stack. The paddle holster is top notch for carrying in my opinion, as it puts my pistol right where I want it without binding on my belt/trousers, while still keeping a slim profile against my body, but at an angle which allows me to draw and use it quickly. I jump up and down with it on and haven't had it dislodge or feel like its going to create an 'oh shit, I dropped my piece' moment. I keep 6 mags handy, so 48 rounds available at anytime.
The wifes was a recent pickup, as of course I'm not as financially sound as I was (bought a lot of silver and took up watersports), so we settled on a Tokarev 9mm single stack. It does the job, and with each of us having over 1100 rounds for 'serious' work if we need it, and the same for the occasional practice sessions, we feel like we are able to meet what we need to head on if it comes to that. After they get past the dogs of course, which at 90lbs at the smallest and black as night, is gonna take some balls. For her though, it's the bedside piece, and only if she truly feels like the shotgun isn't the best option or handiest.
Again, just some thoughts. Not the best weapons, but used effectively, and in conjunction with other items, animals, gates, rifles, etc.; they can be the tool they were designed for, if that's the job that needs done. Lets hope our household never gets that kind of work though.
Other thoughts:
A 380 can be carried loose in pocket of khakis or bulky cargo shorts, for example and not be noticed. The I. O. Wildcat, specifically, has a strong trigger pull to limit accidental discharge. I don't chamber a round while carrying this way, but I suppose I will have time to rake the slide when needed. This is where the practice is important. To decrease this time and arrive on target quickly.
I have two daughters that climb all over me and I prefer the safety of no chambered round. They also know not to discuss the gun in public (without coaching them). I realized this when my five year old rolled onto my lap at a fireworks display in July and felt the gun (ankle holster) and inspected it closer by briefly palpating it through the cloth of my jeans. I watched her as she made the realization of what it was. She simply shifted her weight to my other leg and never even looked surprised or made any acknowledgement of what she discovered. Both daughters seem absolutely disinterested in firearms as they have been around them their whole life. There is no intrigue and they are repeatedly reminded of gun safety and inherent danger.
Although I expect some to be critical of this, you must realize I only started to carry when I had kids. The drive to protect them from violent anomalies is higher than the need to protect myself, I've realized. I usually carry when I take the kids out to public events and rarely carry when I run down to the store by myself, for example. (I probably should make a habit to carry more often these days.)
I use this ankle holster, often.
Where I live it is hot and difficult to carry concealed about the waist.
In winter, I carry larger calibers easier to conceal under Jackets.
Hope this helps someone.
Correction: it is the Hellcat, not the "wildcat" and it is discontinued, unfortunately
The point is that trigger pull pressure should be a consideration for those looking to carry.
A 380 can be carried loose in pocket of khakis or bulky cargo shorts, for example and not be noticed. The I. O. Wildcat, specifically, has a strong trigger pull to limit accidental discharge. I don't chamber a round while carrying this way, but I suppose I will have time to rake the slide when needed. This is where the practice is important. To decrease this time and arrive on target quickly.
You should consider a pocket holster for your .380. It keeps lint out of the pistol, doesn't allow the firearm to 'print' and is easier to access than an ankle holster. If you do decide to use a pocket holster, go with quality and make sure it has a back like the ones on the left bottom of the pics found here:
http://www.bearcreekholsters.com/front-pocket.php
I got a holder form my Ruger LCP that looks just like a wallet. In fact, you could put it in your back pocket if it's stretched out enough.
Any love here for that Kel tec PMR-30 which is the .22 Mag pistol (.22 WMR) and holds 31 rounds?
Is the .22 WMR strong enough for zombies and social work? Is it also concealable and reliable enough?
Just ordered one. Thanks!
No problem.
Damn! I'm going to have to give up on my Spandex pants to make this work...
Ameweeka should be nuked, the sooner would be the best, most probably.
Come on now, nobody has to "nuke America".
Just take out the handful of large cities where they nest and breed.
lol. I used to speak a few years ago about the coming "Race War" but I didn't realize it would become a self-fulfilling process. It still hasn't, unless you buy into this nonsense.
I hope this was at least overall "tongue in cheek" HH.
-Chumblez.
Being a competently trained and armed citizen simply makes one a better citizen in a society which is devolving into chaos. Whether or not a "race war" is in the cards or just used as a scare tactic, being able to defend oneself, family and others is a good thing.
Ha! chumba. you're kidding right? Check your history and see what happens when cultures mix on a big scale.
-I aint chumba.
Erlich,
My boomer dad who is clinically insane is terrorfied over the coming race war. Something about the boomer white guys makes them think blacky is organizing to come and kill them like the friggin' vietcong.
Maybe he knows the history of South Africa, Rhodesia, and Haiti.
Blacks are already murdering tens of thousands of whites every year in America. Home invasions. Torture. Murder. Knock out game. 10,000+ raped white women. On and on it goes. The only good thing in it all is that black population growth is very low (thanks Planned Parenthood! + long prison sentences for black criminals).
I know an older English white couple who were farmers in either SA or Rhodesia. One day the wife encountere d 3 black Africans who would have harmed her and killed her. They came upon her car and she reacted in a split second. She killed two of them and wounded the third. She had no choice. It was her or them. True story.
Every white South African you meet anywhere in the world tells you the same stories. Where there's smoke, there's fire. Still I have met naive American whites that blame the South African genocide on white South Africans.