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US Warns Of "Unprecedented" Russian Military Buildup In Syria: "It's Starting To Look Like Crimea"

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On Wednesday, we brought you an in-depth look at the latest from Syria where Russia is apparently in a mad dash to send reinforcements to Assad and his depleted army at Latakia (or at least that’s the narrative being pushed rather hard by Western media). 

Meanwhile, France and Britain have apparently decided that the best way to stem the flow of refugees to Western Europe is to bomb the country from which the refugees are fleeing, which means that in relatively short order, the skies above Syria will be filled with French, British, American, Turkish, and Russian jets, a situation which quite clearly has the potential to cause an “accident.”

With the war drums now beating loudly, the media is keen on documenting anything that even sounds like it might be incremental which, in combination with the fact that situation on the ground truly is rather fluid, means we get more color on the situation with each passing hour. Case in point, from Reuters:

Russian forces have begun participating in military operations in Syria in support of government troops, three Lebanese sources familiar with the political and military situation there said on Wednesday.

 

The sources, speaking to Reuters on condition they not be identified, gave the most forthright account yet from the region of what the United States fears is a deepening Russian military role in Syria's civil war, though one of the Lebanese sources said the number of Russians involved so far was small.

And here's more from the Kremlin, where spokeswoman Maria Zakharova offered a damning (not to mention amusingly accurate) indictment of how Washington has sought to characterize Moscow's relationship with Damascus:

Russia has decried the U.S. pressure over the flights as "international boorishness" and dismissed reports of a build-up in Syria in general terms.

 

But Russian officials have repeatedly dodged questions over whether there has been a recent increase in military assistance to Assad and Moscow has not unequivocally denied any build-up of its forces in Syria.

 

"First we were accused of providing arms to the so-called 'bloody regime that was persecuting democratic activists'," said Maria Zakharova, spokeswoman for the Russian foreign ministry.

 

"Now it's a new edition - we are supposedly harming the fight against terrorism. That is complete rubbish." 

All of that comes on the heels of reports out on Wednesday which suggested that Moscow had sent tank landing ships and additional cargo planes to the country prompting Washington to remind the Kremlin that any efforts to prop up the Assad regime are absolutely unacceptable: 

"We would welcome constructive Russian contributions to the counter-ISIL effort, but we've been clear that it would be unconscionable for any party, including the Russians, to provide any support to the Assad regime," White House spokesman Eric Schultz said.

Reuters’ unnamed Lebanese sources also suggested that Russia has moved to establish an inland forward operating base, a move they say “indicates the Russians have decided to join the war against terrorism", a war which, as discussed here on Wednesday, no foreign military seems very interested in fighting as evidenced by the fact that rebels battling Islamic State near Marea told WSJ they are “fighting ISIS by themselves.” 

And speaking of ISIS, the group is apparently close to taking one of Assad's last strongholds in the east (via Reuters):

Dozens of Syrian government troops and Islamic State fighters have been killed in fighting around a government-held air base in eastern Syria in a region that is a stronghold for the jihadists, a monitoring group said on Thursday,

 

Islamic State used at least two car bombs in its latest assault on the air base near the city of Deir al-Zor, where government troops are holed up, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

 

It said at least 18 soldiers and 23 Islamic State fighters had been killed. The base is one of President Bashar al-Assad's last footholds in eastern Syria. There was no mention of the attack on state media.

So while all of the multifarious rebels, “freedom fighters”, “moderate” jihadists, “radical” jihadists, and makeshift contingents do exactly what they were intended to do from the start (i.e. destabilize the Assad regime) both the West and Russia are busy preparing for the possibility that realizing their respective visions for Syria’s political future may ultimately mean open warfare and make no mistake, warhawks in Washington are happy to perpetuate the narrative as is the GOP's media mouthpiece. Here's Fox News:

U.S. officials are expressing growing concern about Russia's military build-up in Assad-controlled Syria, calling it "unprecedented."


"It's beginning to look like Crimyria [sic]," the official told Fox News. 

Yes, it's starting to look like "Crimyria" and by that we assume Fox means "Crimea", and if they're right, the Kremlin may be on the verge of taking the "proxy" out of the Syrian proxy war.

 

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Thu, 09/10/2015 - 10:57 | 6531106 Chupacabra-322
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We're at the "Sticks & Stones" phase.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:04 | 6531144 Perimetr
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The US and Israel are both bombing the forces of the Syrian government . . .

How dare Russia interfere!!!

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:08 | 6531171 Freddie
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They are scared shitless that Russia, Syrian Army and Hezbollah are going to wipe out their ISIS shitbags.

I hope they do.  ISIS is so horrible and mean but don't you even think about fighting Rita Katz's green screen ISIS "terrorists."

Funny how they started talking about Al Qeada again. Lies lies and more lies.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:10 | 6531184 Haus-Targaryen
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I'd love to see the Russian Airforce use ISIS as target practice.  I've been saying this for years.  Shit, this might be a great way to deal with some of their 30 year old bombs.  

I mean, dropping 30 year old bombs on people stuck in the 12th Century still seems like a compliment ... right?!  

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:15 | 6531211 Manthong
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“It's Starting To Look Like Crimea"

Wow.. you don’t say ??

Yeah,   like they were already there and have an important strategic security interest.

You “officials” at State must be rocket scientists or something.

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:16 | 6531236 chunga
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We should probably expect a commercial airliner full of tourists will get shot down any day now by a Russian missile.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:19 | 6531256 TeamDepends
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Or a Blackwater/Craft merc will fire the first shot, which will be blamed, by MSM, on the Russians and we're off to the races.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:23 | 6531273 chunga
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Nudelman's pointy nose is up to no good in this I'm sure.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:25 | 6531287 Mister Ponzi
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Look like Crimea? Did I miss something? Did the Syrian population vote to join Russia?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:30 | 6531324 TongueStun
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THE SPICE MUST FLOW.....from Qatar, not from Russia

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:36 | 6531358 Oh regional Indian
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Pot meet kettle

Tinder meet flame

Butterfly landmines

Leave everybody lame...

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:39 | 6531366 Secret Treaties
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U.S. officials are expressing growing concern about Russia's military build-up in Assad-controlled Syria, calling it "unprecedented."

 

"It's beginning to look like Crimyria [sic]," the official told Fox News. 

 

 

LOL!  A liar speaking to a group of propagandists in the service of oligarchs to spread misinformation to idiots.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:54 | 6531428 froze25
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It really doens't make any sense not to support Assad, at least his record of not killing Christians is pretty darn good.  The House of Saudi needs to go.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:17 | 6531528 Divided States ...
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Something BIG is about to happen in Syria...with all those migrants leaving the country and now supposedly Russia aiding Assad....looks like its time for Zio-owned MSM to label Putin as Public Enemy #1 again.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:31 | 6531593 Handful of Dust
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Some non-usa media interviewed refugees and asked them about assad; they all said they were living in peace until foreign interference. This group was Christian and they said he never bothered them...let them all live and work in peace. Quite tragic for them. It's no surprise countries want nukes or otherwise some foreign nation will invade you.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:53 | 6531675 Manthong
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If you think of the effects of the sanctions on Russia and US MENA “policy”, it not only hurts the target countries, it whacks a competitor (the EU) with financial and refugee hardships.

And I hear that there a couple of cheap helicopter carriers on the market now .. I wouldn’t mind having one out on Lake Michigan.. it would make a cool party boat.. with big indoor and outdoor dance floors..

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 13:12 | 6531758 Rubbish
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I love it when you use my identity in the title.

 

Gold Bitchez.....I pick up pennies

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:01 | 6531975 Flagit
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My buddie wanted to buy a B-52, put tables and chairs on the wings, seating on the inside, and turn it into a bar called The Cockpit.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:24 | 6532104 HowdyDoody
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Russia has a veto over the sale. It wants the buyer to also buy the Ka25 helicopters developed specifically for the Mistral. The Russians are also stripping out their military-specific mods to the Mistrals.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:31 | 6532143 giovanni_f
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"Some non-usa media interviewed refugees and asked them about assad; they all said they were living in peace until foreign interference. This group was Christian..."

They aren't white anglsaxon protestants, WASPS. That's why they are free to be slaughtered. I also like this passage:

"Reuters’ unnamed Lebanese sources also suggested"


Thu, 09/10/2015 - 13:57 | 6531960 Flagit
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I hate joining threads after 200 comments. It seems your chances of being acknowledged becomes increasingly unlikely.

 

With that, I remember reading some fiction/prediction that the big build-up to a confrontation is all you get. There will be no big war. Russia and China will continue to do, what they are already doing, which is branch out, making deals, never firing a shot or dropping a bomb. The USA will threaten, stomp it's feet, and continue to appeal to it's populous for support....but that will be all.

Threatening headlines, speeches, red-lines, and it all falls apart when the sanctions coalition is broken. After a few more months of screaming for war, McStain and Co just quietly fade away.

 

Illinios is already starting to pay lottery winners in IOU's. How long before SS switches to a complete "voucher" system, apart from the currency system? Not really fair to throw hypothetical into the mix, but the well is going dry.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:26 | 6532095 chunga
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If anything super mental happens I predict USSA will be the one to raise it up a notch. They'e the ones having to protect the petro-dollar and world reserve currency. It's a CONfidence game and confidence is waning already. If the military got it's butt kicked even a little, CONfidence would wane even moar.

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aura of US MIC invincibility is critical, perceived chinks in armor embolden others to challenge

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:29 | 6532129 SMG
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The Globalists are planning a big globally depopulating war, and these events are the run up to it. Just go look at the first "commandment" on the Georgia Guidestones.   2020-2025 time period is when it is planned for.  What a time to be alive, but at least you were warned and can prepare.   I hope after all this is over people don't let the Satanists run things anymore.

You can read more about it here.

http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/threats.html

 

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:41 | 6531368 Son of Loki
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"Monkey see, Monkey do."

 

We were there first!  Why don't the Russkies invade some other tiny country instead of copying us?! Why do they stick their borscht nose into our global invasions and occupations and expansions?

 

It's not fair!

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:43 | 6531384 TBT or not TBT
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It's like a Crimea with 90% Arabs instead of 90% Russian speaking Russians, transposed into an utterly different geographic location.  

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 13:27 | 6531813 new game
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unprecedented buildup, oh sure, yea fucking right! maybe the russians don't provoke war and meddle in everybodies shit, huh? cause mericas presence is a 17 year precedented buildup. going back to nam try 50 fucking years of destabilazation world wide. huh, in your face neocon bastards...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:31 | 6531327 Haus-Targaryen
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lol wouldn't that be a game changer?  

"Temporary Annexation until Syria's borders are reestablish and the security of the state assured."  

If the US bombs Assad -- they actually just bombed Russia.  O_o 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:19 | 6531535 Manthong
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We stole Hawaii for strategic reasons..

Why shouldn't they steal Syria?

Assad can always open up an eye clinic.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:21 | 6531547 Sandmann
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US stole Gitmo with forced perpetual lease of $2000 pa. Maybe Cuba will get it back ?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 13:40 | 6531886 NoVa
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with Oblamo in office for another 17 months, return of Gitmo is not a maybe but more a LIKELY.

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:33 | 6531337 Urban Roman
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I think it means less shooting. And more tourists from Slavic countries...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 13:50 | 6531917 fallout11
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Its warm in Syria, nice beaches too. What's not to like?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:39 | 6531367 Sages wife
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How on Earth is the MSM not asking how "ISIS" is still on the offensive when:

-they're supposedly fighting Syria, Turkey, U.S., Israel, and Canada among others.

-they have no air force, or nowhere to hide; no home base.

-they are perpetually supplied with no obvious benefactor.

-they are supposedly selling oil to finance their atrocities; to whom and how?

-their propaganda is apparently exempt from internet censorship.

-they have no documented origin. (Other than maybe Hitlery's private server)

These points are only the tip of the iceberg. Could it be more obvious that this "enemy" is at least a surrogate, if not a complete MIC-rooted geopolitical media fantasy?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:54 | 6531436 Mr. Bones
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How is the MSM not asking

Simple, they don't want to know. Even more than that, they don't want you to know.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:10 | 6531504 Carpenter1
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All the kicked cans, head fakes, and "almost" wars are going to come together at once. We are about to witness more events in a few months than the world has seen in centuries

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:48 | 6531657 SoilMyselfRotten
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They must be using their gold hoard, the damn terrurists

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:55 | 6531444 froze25
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Stop applying logic and reason to propaganda you will just get a headache.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:39 | 6531624 fritskrach
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They sell ancient art.

After they blew the B.C. temples.

No kidding, this is on TV in Europe.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 13:23 | 6531803 Barnaby
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Europe: where you're one button press away from football, Shakira videos or stuff that makes The History Channel look sensible.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:09 | 6532021 Flagit
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No shit! Who is their ISP? I can't download a movie or a music file without a SWAT team showing up, but they can upload beheading till their fingers bleed(pardon the pun).

I also wanna know where they get that anti-satelite camo, that makes them a bigger mystery than Austin Powers.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:25 | 6532110 king leon
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A US official from the Pentagon voiced his concern about Russian involvement in Syria .He said " Russia would be best served, joining the 35 NATO alliance  countries to defeat ISIS" The US alone have already flown 2.600+ sorties  against ISIS. So 35 countries can't defeat ISIS, then what chance does Russia have/sarc. If we didn't know the real truth, how embarrassing would that statement be? I suggest the stupid fucking Pentagon official engages brain before opening mouth.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:15 | 6531229 Utah_Get_Me_2
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Anyone else curious who the unnamed 'economist' on Al-Quada's hitlist is? My money is on Krugman.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:29 | 6531307 Mrmojorisin515
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I find it curious that suddenly Al-Quida is paroting views that are expressed on zerohedge all the time.  Testing the waters to send domestic insurgents to internment camps?  I mean come on, they will take you off of their list if you remove your money from large banks and outside american soil?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:16 | 6531525 Utah_Get_Me_2
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I thought the same thing. If instead it were a list of individuals that need to be charged with crimes against humanity created by say.. Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians/'Conspiracy Theorists'.. the names on the list would be the same.

It appears the globalists may be going forward with the absurd narrative that Conservatives/Gunowners/Christians/Veterans/Anacaps/Liberatarians are allying and conspiring with jihadis to commit terror attacks within the CONUS and overthrow the US government. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:18 | 6532077 Herd Redirectio...
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Split America into 6 distinct nations (at least).  Forget the current incarnation.

We are still in the Information War stage.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:39 | 6532190 thamnosma
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Some Russian general was predicting that some years ago.  I figure he was simply ahead of his time.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:32 | 6531328 Freddie
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God - I hope they do not hurt Gartman.

Send all your ISIS and Al Qeada fan mail to:

ISIS and Al Qeada

P.O. Box 101

Langley, VA 22101

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 16:20 | 6532793 Pazuzu
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Let me know when they start passing the hat on that one. You know, liquidation liquidity.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 13:36 | 6531868 sandhillexit
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I met a British U.N. official in Jerusalem a few years ago.  He told me he was Autralian but I actually know the accents and he was not Aussie.  He had nothing but contempt for the training and competence of Americans.  He said most of the Americans he sees in Israel/Palestine are fairly clueless and very young, often Christian, trying to do "peace work" without any real understanding of the history or the politics.  He commented that the Russians are able to build influence in the region....."just by telling the truth."    I love when someone says something interesting; years later, and still thinking about it.  

And then there was Gore Vidal, who observed that the fact that the Russians are "white" might turn out to be one of the most important facts of the 21st century.  Since he wrote that Putin has add "Christian" back into the mix.

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:19 | 6532079 Icelandicsaga.....
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Have you seen this today: More than 50 intelligence analysts working out of the U.S. military's Central Command have formally complained that their reports on ISIS and al Qaeda’s branch in Syria were being inappropriately altered by senior officials, The Daily Beast has learned.

 

The complaints spurred the Pentagon’s inspector general to open an investigation into the alleged manipulation of intelligence. The fact that so many people complained suggests there are deep-rooted, systemic problems in how the U.S. military command charged with the war against the self-proclaimed Islamic State assesses intelligence.http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/09/exclusive-50-spies-say-...

 

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:20 | 6532085 Jack Burton
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Excellent post Freddie. You sum up my thoughts. ISIS ground to dust would be nice, but USA and UK, Saudi, Turkey support ISIS. That is why ISIS is so strong, the west lies, their attacks on ISIS are a joke.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:25 | 6531288 FireBrander
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How long before Russia "someone evile" shoots down a civilian jetliner over Syria?

Or bombs a bus full of children on their way to get milk for thier moms and sick siblings?

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:48 | 6531404 Oldballplayer
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Nope, someone is going to use one of those Bengazi ManPads they will shoot down one of those Russian Transports.

Perhaps we can find an Archduke from some obscure royal family to hitch a ride.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 13:19 | 6531779 Zwelgje
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And in turn the USAF will loose a C17.

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:15 | 6532063 Flagit
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Or bombs a bus full of children on their way to get milk for thier moms and sick siblings?

That should teach the little bastards to travel outside STATE lines for their precious milk! FDA FTW!

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:10 | 6531183 unrulian
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   "Sticks & Stones"  Not yet...but that is what WW4 will be fought with

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:03 | 6531481 wendigo
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Einstein was a smart guy but that is a really stupid quote. If mankind has devolved to using sticks and stones as weapons, we won't have the mobility and manpower to fight war on a global scale. All wars would be local. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:16 | 6531521 Sandmann
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Einstein forced the development of the A-bomb. I think he had regrets

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 13:03 | 6531725 Allen_H
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We of course have no proof, but so be it ! ..... if they say, the bomb must be real, hahahaha

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:12 | 6531197 SMG
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Russia is on the right side here.   The Satanic Globalists and their puppets instigated this war and created ISIS.  Because of this hundreds of thousands have been murdered  and millions have had their homes destroyed and been forced to move.   These people are innocent.  All this so some evil bastards can have some stupid freaking pipeline?  I hope the people behind this get everything they have coming to them and then burn in hell with their master for eternity.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:13 | 6531218 pods
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I'd rather see them burned on earth, but to each his own.

pods

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:23 | 6531276 roisaber
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Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:08 | 6531495 Bay of Pigs
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I like the wood chipper idea, feet first and real slow.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:23 | 6531559 Manthong
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Whilst slathered in Sterno and lit.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:29 | 6531310 FireBrander
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"Russia is on the right side here. "

No fucken shit...never thought I'd live to see the day I back Russia over the USA. It's time for Putin to open a can of whoopass and pound the USA's ISIS forces into dust...no pussy footing fucking around...shock, awe, slash, burn, WIN THE FUCKEN BATTLE RIGHT NOW...

I think it could be done long before Lurch could call an emergency meeting at the UN to "condemn" the action.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:34 | 6531344 TongueStun
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It really takes a special kind of stupid to believe that Putin is any more honest, and any less corrupt that the socialist jew Federal Reserve bankster cartel who runs America

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:48 | 6531410 Volkodav
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VV Putin was never about money

 

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:24 | 6532106 Jack Burton
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Volkodav, the West can't understand Putin because Putin is a Russian patriot and a Christian who want's to defend the west and Russia from Islamic insanity. Remember Chechnya? The West supported all Islamic Jihadists and Al-Qaeda in hopes of destroying christians and the peace between Russian church and Russian Islamic peoples.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:02 | 6531477 TSA Thug
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Once he sees what Tyler has in store for the Banksters he will straighten up. Plus Tyler has some very special `means` to achieve his goals.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:43 | 6531640 FireBrander
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"Putin is any more honest, and any less corrupt"

Who's making that claim? Not me fuckhead. I just want SOMEONE to stand in the USA's way for once before we, the USA, set the whole fucken world on fire!

It's time for "Spreading Freedom and Democracy" to come to an end!

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:13 | 6532038 John Wilmot
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If Russia gets too frisky in Syria, the US will force Turkey to close the straights to Russian military vessels. That doesn't make a Russian campaign in Syria impossible, but it makes it much harder (supply route has to go all the way from the Baltic, around the Atlantic coast of France and Spain, and then across the length of the Med). So, I expect a relatively small Russian force to stiffen Assad's spine and deter a US invasion, rather than a major campaign against ISIS.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:17 | 6531244 Welfare Tycoon
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The only thing more appaling than this blatant load of bullshit is the fact that the populace will eat it up without second thought. 

If any of your fellow Americans raise this subject in conversation, please quiz them on the differences between US and Russian foreign policy: 

Can you please tell me what has been going on with every country that the US has intervened with lately? Syria? Iraq? Libya?

Is it chaos or peace?

Now can you please tell me what you have heard since Russia annexed Crimea?

Is there chaos, anarchy, and lawlessness everywhere, or is Crimea now a peaceful place?

Motherfucking retards everywhere these days. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:40 | 6531363 Bunghole
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You know I would have though the same thing but yesterday I was surprised.  

Drudge linked to a story on Yahoo about Russian warplanes and ships enetering the region.

A majority of the commentors were surprisingly supportive of Russia saying they have every right to defend their allies and some even called out ISIS as a CIA front.  Most were sick of the endless proxy wars the USSA supports.

I think the tides may be shifting with some of our populace.

Too bad the NASCAR, NFL, NBA, Dancing with the Stars crowds still get their information and bread and circuses from the Jootube.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:54 | 6531435 TBT or not TBT
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Keep in mind these are Obama-Jarrett Administration fuck-ups, and sure, fuck-ups of "the US" technically, but not of Americans.   We didnt vote for these guys.  The FSA, TPTB, and leftist loonatics did.   

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:24 | 6531560 Grimaldus
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Thank You! +1000

 

PROGRESSIVE usurper criminals are in charge of US foreign policy and directing intervention into other sovereign nations affairs.

What is the constitutional conservative way? Non-intervention. No wars.

What is the progressive way? Intervention, war and death for millions.

It is waay past time to jail these progressive usurper war-criminal mofo's. So what if Putin rescues his long time ally Assad. None of our business.

 

 

 

Grimaldus

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:27 | 6531296 Enki Anu
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Your friendly Khazarian Bankster Warlords at Work.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:22 | 6532099 dcohen
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How dares Russia help an ally against Israel's and USA's AlQaeda terrorist mercenary deathsquads - outrageous!

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:11 | 6533080 tired1
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I, for one, believe anything that Maria Z. says.  What a doll.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 10:58 | 6531107 KnuckleDragger-X
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The Russians are getting themselves into a place that'll be hard to get out of........

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:03 | 6531138 order66
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That's the goal. Syria is HUGE for them. They'll do anything to stop that pipeline plan across Syria that th U.S. and it's allies are after. Russia's energy exports are under direct threat. U.S. underestimates the lengths the Reds are willing to go to.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:12 | 6531204 DaveyJones
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It's one of the US's greatest skills, underestimating.

The great blogger Dimitry Orlov summed up the Russian resolve best. He said there's an old saying, "well, they can't kill us all." Napoleon and Hitler might agree.

Two great mistakes of any arrogant empire is thinking (1) it's smarter than its opponent and (2) its opponents are a static number 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 13:31 | 6531850 SWRichmond
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It's one of the US's greatest skills, underestimating.

Yes.  When the Crimea situation first broke out, I was very early in saying that Putin will NEVER give up Sevastopol, period.  The swift realignment of the area as pro-Russian, and the quick battlefield stalemate in Eastern Ukraine was no surprise at all.  Russia WILL have its allies, and its border states, and it's not fucking negotiable.  I recall making a statement that went something like this: "Depending on whose estimates you believe, the Russians suffered 650,000 casualties (the better part of three ARMIES) in the First Battle of Smolensk, in three months time, in constant counterattacks intended to blunt the German advance towards Moscow.  Do the Americans really think Putin is going to roll over for the likes of Obama?  It's laughable." 

Putin didn't bite on the temptation to counterattack in Ukraine, as I am sure he knew that the West is trying to get to overcommit on multiple fronts.

This thing ain't over. 

Dear US government: DONT GET INVOLVED IN A LAND WAR IN ASIA.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:23 | 6532103 John Wilmot
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Yup

MacArthur was right.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:11 | 6533078 pot_and_kettle
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Montgomery, no?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:24 | 6532105 Herd Redirectio...
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Which again is why the Crimea is so important.  Without it, Russia could theoretically be prevented access to the Black Sea, Med and Atlantic.  Right now, rivers, canals and waterways mean one can go from Moscow to Iran, and then to the Atlantic, without setting foot on dry land.  That is HUGE for logistical purposes, and its also why Russia won't allow the US/ZATO to destabilize the Caucasus (which is where the Volga/Don canal is).

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:17 | 6533106 tired1
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There's also the isue of Constantinpol (or whatever it's called these days).

Interesting times.

btw: dont forget that a certain ME contry is running out of water.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 15:11 | 6532316 DaveyJones
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Princess Bride is high on my movie list :\

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:05 | 6531150 Winston Churchill
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Who said they would want to ?

Time to move that minute hand on the Doomsday clock again.

This is turning into an unproxy war.Even my neighbor said last week that this is leading to WWIII,

and I thought he was a sheep and blissfully unaware.Seems lots are waking up.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:20 | 6531541 WillyGroper
Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:20 | 6531257 Vinividivinci
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Me thinks (@knuckledragger-x) that's exactly where Putin wants to be...between a rock and hard place...and bring this zit to a head and then, squeeze the puss out of Syria and piss off the U.S...and escalate from there, to where? WTFKnows

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:27 | 6531297 pods
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That is a very good point. If Russia is taking on ISIS, and ISIS is really a CIA created and controlled operation, then this is going to get very sticky.

Russia will be taking on every nutjob with an AK, CIA operatives, SAS dressed as ISIS, and the western media (media being the most difficult).

The only saving grace with this is that the people of the US are really damn tired of war, and nowhere near as palatable of more proxy war with Russia today as they were the last time this went on, in Afghanistan.

And the internet has allowed people to actually voice the thoughts they had inside their heads about whether the USA is actually the shining city on a hill or just another despotic regime hell bent on hegemony.

pods

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:23 | 6531555 general ambivalent
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Shemitah Jubilee false flag will fix the desire for war.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:32 | 6531334 FireBrander
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"The Russians are getting themselves into a place that'll be hard to get out of........"

The Russians are getting themselves into a place that'll be hard FOR US to get THEM out of........

Once the US forces of ISIS are crushed, who will directly confront the Russian troops?

No fucken way will American soldiers be used...if that was possible, there would be no need for ISIS...ISIS is a US proxy to do the dirty deeds Americans won't do...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:26 | 6531576 general ambivalent
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Now they're preparing a false scandal to show how defense documents tried show ISIS as weaker than they actually are, as this would show the advance in the fight against them:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/former-cia-director-under-obama-132000261....

Conclusion: They're already a superpower. We couldn't have seen this coming.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 15:00 | 6532265 Freddie
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Also see that they are reviving their other phony bogeyman aka Al Qeada.   Maybe people are catching on that ISIS is fake.

ISIS has an entire film studio and they shoot endless videos with weird (green screen looking fake) backgorunds?   All the poor captives were orange prison jump suits?

Does Rita Katz have access to the backlot at Paramount or maybe George Lucas Skywaker Studios or is it a Katz-Spielberg epic?

Maybe ISIS will feed these hapless hostages to sharks or dinosaurs next.  F***king phony shit.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:26 | 6533156 tired1
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Early holiday greetings for tomorrow:

Happy 911 Day !

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:26 | 6533157 tired1
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Early holiday greetings for tomorrow:

Happy 911 Day !

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:50 | 6531414 Oldballplayer
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Come on in Vlad....the water is fine.  Really.  Honest.

They did Afghanistan first.

Then we did.

Then we did Iraq.

Seems thats where this is going.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:09 | 6531496 KnuckleDragger-X
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Hmmmm... Looks like I've pissed off the Putin is Superman crowd, too bad. That pipeline won't be built until they kill a lot of people......

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 10:59 | 6531117 alia
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welll, when you poke a bear...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 10:59 | 6531118 alia
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welll, when you poke a bear...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:00 | 6531126 Missing_Link
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Good on the Russians for actually lifting a finger to fight terrorists.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:01 | 6531130 Dick Gazinia
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Fuck John McCain.  Wait.  What were we talking about?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:05 | 6531146 arbwhore
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Doesn't matter. Sell gold.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:01 | 6531133 Dr. Engali
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I don't think I've ever been more conflicted than I am now and not in a good way. I grew up during the cold war and Russia represented everything evil. Now I see how the U.S creates chaos in the middle east driving refugees to Europe and then blames Russia and it makes my head want to explode. The 1984 news speak is driving me insane.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:09 | 6531174 general ambivalent
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Just think, the US was worse than the Soviet Union even then. And now it's doubled down!

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:31 | 6532154 John Wilmot
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No, the USSR was the most evil government that ever existed on this planet.

Once upon a time, the US really did have the moral highground.

Obviously, that's no longer the case...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 15:04 | 6532281 Freddie
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The Bolsheviks came from New York City, London, Germany and were just like Nudelman, Soros, State Dept, Jonathan Pollard and their ilk.  The same Bolsheviks are not much different then those in charge if the USA, EU, other western countries. Same bloodline of murdering scum.

The Bolsheviks murdered at least 20 million Russian Christians.   These people are the same ones who start all wars especially when they get Christians to kill other Christians and Muslims to kill other Muslims.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:10 | 6531180 Utah_Get_Me_2
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'We've always been at war with Eastasia' 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:43 | 6531195 Volkodav
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Cold war was Soviet USSR, which was not a Russian construct

from 1917 thru Stalin was never Russians in control.

Kruschev and Breznev were Ukrainian nationals

even Gorby was half Ukrainian

Soviet is defunct...do not confuse 

Now is Russian Federation...

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 13:46 | 6531906 centerline
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Interesting distinction.  Thanks.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:31 | 6532149 Herd Redirectio...
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Volk, why not let people know about the Judo-Bolsheviks?  Trotsky, Lenin, Stalin, Kaganovich...  Only one of those 4 DID NOT change his name.  But they have something else in common, as well...  Which can be summed up as "NOT RUSSIAN, ETHNICALLY OR CULTURALLY".

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:11 | 6531201 pods
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You are not alone Doc. I was thinking about this "refugee crisis" after the pic of the dead kid was plastered all over.

Only took one cup of coffee to figure out NATO's plan.

This is Plan B, as Assad was kicking the shit out of our underground army, much to McCain's agony.

pods

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:16 | 6531238 zvzzt
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I wouldn;t even be surprized if the kid was found dead somewhere and tossed in the water near some reporters to make the obvious progaganda pictures. Perhaps too cynical... 

Poor kids and parants getting killed all over the world for the patetic old fucks wanting to rule the world. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:42 | 6531377 Kayman
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For the Evil, everything is pretext.

Wasn't Saddam raping newborn babies in Kuwait ?

Next thing you know they will trot out Cheney claiming they just discovered Russia has WMD.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:24 | 6531268 DaveyJones
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well at least McCain was in agony

I was listening to Pink Floyd's The Wall this morning working out and my mind flew back to high school where I first saw that amazing rock concert. But the words, and the wars, the hypocrisy and the sadistic sick depression and pedantic rant of a decaying empire gave that album and the sick child's future another pre-halloween feel as I sweat it out in the darkness

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:37 | 6532175 Flagit
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You will find a LOT of that if you go back and listen. Rage Against The Machine, Queensryche, and yes....even Megadeth!

 

I hate posting song lyrics, but the message is there. WARNING: this song activates adrenaline.

A cockroach in the concrete, courthouse tan and beady eyes
A slouch with fallen arches, purging truths into great lies
A little man with a big eraser, changing history
Procedures that he's programmed to, all he hears and sees

Altering the facts and figures, events and every issue
Make a person disappear, and no one will ever miss you
Rewrites every story, every poem that ever was
Eliminates incompetence, and those who break the laws
Follow the instructions of the New Way's Evil Book of Rules
Replacing rights with wrongs, the files and records in the schools
You said you've got the answers, well who asked you anyway?
Ever think may be it was meant to be this way?
Don't try to fool us, we know the worst is yet to come
I believe my kingdom will come

F, is for fighting, R is for red
Ancestors' blood in battles they've shed
E, we elect them, E, we eject them
In the land of the free and the home of the brave
D, for your dying, O, your overture
M, will cover your grave with manure
This spells out FREEDOM, it means nothing to me

As long as there's P.M.R.C

F, is for fighting, R is for red
Ancestors' blood in battles they've shed
E, we elect them, E, we eject them
In the land of the free and the home of the brave
D, for your dying, O, your overture
M is for money, you know what that cures
This spells out FREEDOM, it means nothing to me

As long as there's P.M.R.C

F, is for fighting, R is for red
Ancestors' blood in battles they've shed
E, we elect them, E, we eject them
In the land of the free and the home of the brave
D, for your dying, O, your overture
M, will cover your grave with manure
This spells out FREEDOM, it means nothing to me

As long as there's P.M.R.C

Put your hand right up my shirt
Pull the strings that make me work
Jaws will part, words fall out
Like a fish with hook in mouth

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:12 | 6531215 zvzzt
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Sounds like you not conflicted, but actually seeing things clearly. Had my wake up call a few years ago. Never to late :)

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:27 | 6531262 Dr. Engali
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Actually been awake for years, but now it seems that the western powers are more blatant about their corruption and don't care that it's right out there in the open for everybody to see.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:30 | 6531322 DaveyJones
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It's their apathy that scares me most...the fact that they make absolutely no effort to cover their tracks anymore. It means a lot of things perhaps. They are getting ever more corrupt, ever idiotic, ever desperate, ever anything but human  

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:33 | 6531338 zvzzt
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To be sure, meant the remark in a highly positive way. 

Indeed the blatantcy is beyond remarkable. Marketing/propaganda is a powerful thing. Feels a bit like the Jimmy Saville case in the UK - abuse for years right in the open and nobody was doing anything and/or looking the other way. Bizarre. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 13:49 | 6531913 centerline
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They are getting desperate.  No doubt.  Continues to amaze me.  Suspecting is sure different from knowing.  And knowing is sure different than being slapped with it like big dead fish across the face.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:26 | 6531290 mtl4
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We've all been there at some point, it's just getting harder for anyone to ignore the facts hitting you in the face nowadays.

 

"You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes." 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:28 | 6531300 sleigher
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You sound like my brother, except he still thinks Russia is more evil than we(US) are.  He is coming around though...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:48 | 6531409 silverer
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Tell him to take a week off and visit Crimea.  When he comes back, ask him what he thinks.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 15:13 | 6532324 Flagit
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Tell him to take a week off and visit Crimea.  When he comes back, ask him what he thinks.

As a follow-up, can you tell me how to get there from Chicago? I am unable to find a flight into Crimea.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:49 | 6531412 jtg
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I was also a Cold War anti-communist warrior until the 1990's when the US came out of the closet supporting jihadis and fascists, at least in that decade I started to see it. The world has turned on its head. Russia now represents the best of what America once represented, and America is the USSR of our time.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 16:58 | 6533008 HopefulCynical
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I knew a very intereresting person in the mid '80s, who predicted very confidently that this inversion would happen. They also said that there would be an undeclared civil war between blacks and whites in America by that time. This individual quite frequently knew things they had no easily explainable way of knowing, about a wide variety of subjects. Predictions came true with almost perfect accuracy, and the few misses weren't off by much. (This individual also explained the Rockefellers, Rothschilds and the rest of the 13 families to me back then, when there was no internet to readily access all this info.) So I've been expecting this stuff to happen for 30 years. It doesn't make it any easier to live through, however. Human civilization, all around the globe, is in for some very rough sledding in the next few decades.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:02 | 6531478 ceilidh_trail
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I agree Doc. I remember "fallout shelter" signs, "run, duck and cover", Grumman test flying F14s off eastern LI, etc. Now, we are the ones causing crap everywhere even as the media keeps it all quiet and confused for most people. How many people know that Americans are still dying in Afghanistan? http://icasualties.org/oef/Nationality.aspx?hndQry=US

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 15:12 | 6532320 dizzyfingers
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USA-war-24/7/365:

"The 800-lb gorilla is the US's perpetual-war-based economy.  What the US desperately needs is a peace-based economy. If the human, industrial and technological "capital" of the US were focused on peace instead of war, there would be no limit to what the US could achieve domestically -- the "standard of living", if you will. Again, all of these resources being wasted on perpetual war is the 800-lb. gorilla in the room and rampaging all over the world. Some how, some way it must be stopped."

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:02 | 6531134 cowdiddly
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Note to self: move my lead underwear project to priority status.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:03 | 6531139 general ambivalent
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Again with the Crimea shaming.

With potatoes Kerry makes kethcup, while Putin turns it into vodka.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:04 | 6531141 Omega_Man
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Let's all join mother Russia against Evil USA!! 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:04 | 6531143 Omega_Man
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Hope China gets in there too. FU USA 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 11:00 | 6535961 jerry_theking_lawler
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I'm actually leaning towards China/Russia being the good cop/bad cop model. China will sit back and only interject in the security council if needed. Russia can handle this situation easily. Now, if things get out of hand.....any reason China is building islands in the middle of the ocean?? Can you say DF-21D??

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:05 | 6531147 Karl von Bahnhof
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Accident is what the hegemon needs to start WW

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:05 | 6531149 Son of Captain Nemo
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To Georgy "Schwartz" Soros, Bob Kagan, his "cookie whore" wife and the "white chimp" and Congress they control at their finger tips!!!

GAME ON MOTHERFUCKERS!!!

Can you handle what you wrought???!!!!

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:06 | 6531151 blabam
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Russian Intervention in Muslim world good. US bad. = Zerohedge commenters

Russia supporting dictator good. US bad. = Zerohedge commenters

Reminder: this whole Islamic terror skit started with the Russian invasion of Afghanistan. Oh right US should have left Soviet union alone right guyz!?!?!!

Down arrow away :)

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:10 | 6531190 Winston Churchill
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You may want to read up the real history on that invasion.

While it was a stupid move, the CIA was up to its ears in goading them on.

Two sides to every story.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:12 | 6531214 blabam
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Poor Russians were tricked into invading evil Afghanistan by zionist jew bankers? 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:18 | 6531252 Winston Churchill
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Don't asphyxicate yourself wrapped so tight in Old Glory.

Vietnam payback.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:23 | 6531272 Denaliguide1
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The Russians have been supplying Syria as long as the US has been supplying Israel, more BS from the WH.

 

News you can use:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE2y_yjSFNE

 

http://denaliguidesummit.blogspot.ca/2015/09/new-youtube-summary-of-speedo-and-more.html

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:23 | 6531274 blabam
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Oh that makes it ok then and removes all accountability. Blame the US by bringing in Vietnam. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 13:39 | 6531882 Max Steel
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Nope muriturd they didnt invade syria unlike west who created this mess just to install puppet regime. Russia is coming to help the mess created by you. You logic is thick just like your empty brwin schmuck.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:25 | 6532033 fallout11
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The Mujahadeen was entirely a CIA construct.
http://www.counterpunch.org/1998/01/15/how-jimmy-carter-and-i-started-th...

See also Operation Cyclone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone
Afghanistan was a CIA trap for the Soviets.
Don't take my word for it, here's Zbigniew Brzezenski personally egging them on in 1979.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9RCFZnWGE0

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:26 | 6531289 zvzzt
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Poor Ruskies were sucked into Afghanistan to support their puppet. Most - if not all - ZH comments are made along the lines "US foreign policy is focusing on toppling regimes it doesn't like (or Israel and/or SA/AUE doesn't like".  Problem is, these policies make more enemies than friends and they empty the already empty bankaccount of the US. Not to mention the millions of dispaced and killed persons along the way. Russkies coming to the aid of a 'evil guy' like Assad is not good or bad, but just a line in the sand.... Like UK and France supporting Poland before WW2 (Both countries couldn't stand Poland, but knew the next attack would be there). 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:52 | 6531383 DaveyJones
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tell your history teacher you want your money back

Summing the issue (and the area) up as "the Muslim" world reveals a lot

Unlike the funny location of NATO (North Atlantic?) now surrounding the Soviets, you seem to suggest that the Soviet empire's reach (and destruction) is somehow equal to the US. Another glimpse into your geopolitical objectivity and insight

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:19 | 6531255 q99x2
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The US military was defeated in 2001 when the Saudis took down the WTO at the WTCs. The government of the US was defeated with the passing of the Patriot Act. The citizens of the US have been under the regime of global economic interlinking corporations and organizations since that time. The US is an occupied nation of a fascist regime.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 15:16 | 6531447 DaveyJones
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how does the US military defeat ITSELF?

should we call Cheney?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 13:35 | 6531861 Zwelgje
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disappointing. 

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