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The Human Cost Of Socialism In Power
Submitted by Richard Ebeling via EpicTimes.com,
The attempt to establish a comprehensive socialist system in many parts of the world over the last one hundred years has been one of the cruelest and most brutal episodes in human history.
Some historians have estimated that as many as 200 million people may have died as part of the dream of creating a collectivist “Paradise on Earth.” Making a better “new world” was taken to mean the extermination, the liquidation, the mass murder of all those that the socialist revolutionary leaders declared to be “class enemies,” including the families, the children of “enemies of the people.”
The Bloody Road to Making a New Socialist Man
We will soon be marking the hundredth anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia (November 1917) under the Marxist revolutionary leader, Vladimir Lenin. In Soviet Russia, alone, it has been calculated by Russian and Western historians who had limited access to the secret archives of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the KGB (the Soviet secret police) in the 1990s, that around 68 million innocent, unarmed men, women and children were killed over the nearly 75 years of communist rule in the Soviet Union.
The communist revolutionaries in Russia proudly declared their goal to be destruction and death to everything that existed before the revolution, so as to have a clean slate upon which to mold the new socialist man.
The evil of the Soviet system is that it was not cruelty for cruelty’s sake. Rather it was cruelty for a purpose – to make a new Soviet man and a new Soviet society. This required the destruction of everything that had gone before; and it also entailed the forced creation of a new civilization, as conjured up in the minds of those who had appointed themselves the creators of this brave new world.
In the minds of those like Felix Dzerzhinsky, Lenin’s close associate and founder of the Soviet secret police, violence was an act of love. So much did they love the vision of a blissful communist future to come that they were willing to sacrifice all of the traditional conceptions of humanity and morality to bring the utopia to fruition.
Thus, in a publication issued in 1919 by the newly formed Soviet secret police, the Cheka (later the NKVD and then the KGB), it was proclaimed:
“We reject the old systems of morality and ‘humanity’ invented by the bourgeoisie to oppress and exploit the ‘lower classes.’ Our morality has no precedent, and our humanity is absolute because it rests on a new ideal. Our aim is to destroy all forms of oppression and violence. To so, everything is permitted, for we are the first to raise the sword not to oppress races and reduce them to slavery, but to liberate humanity from its shackles . . .
“Blood? Let blood flow like water! Let bloodstain forever the black pirate’s flag flown by the bourgeoisie, and let our flag be blood-red forever! For only through the death of the old world can we liberate ourselves from the return of those jackals.”
Death and Torture as Tools of Winning Socialism
The famous sociologist, Pitirim A. Sorokin was a young professor in Petrograd (later Leningrad, and now St Petersburg) in 1920 as the Russian Civil War that firmly established communist rule in Russia was coming to its end. He kept an account of daily life during those years, which he published many years later under the title, Leaves from a Russian Diary – and Thirty Years After (1950).
Here is one of his entries from 1920:
“The machine of the Red Terror works incessantly. Every day and every night, in Petrograd, Moscow, and all over the country the mountain of the dead grows higher . . . Everywhere people are shot, mutilated, wiped out of existence . . .
“Every night we hear the rattle of trucks bearing new victims. Every night we hear the rifle fire of executions, and often some of us hear from the ditches, where the bodies are flung, faint groans and cries of those who did not die at once under the guns. People living near these places begin to move away. They cannot sleep . . .
“Getting up in the morning, no man or woman knows whether he will be free that night. Leaving one’s home, one never knows whether he will return. Sometime a neighborhood is surrounded and everyone caught out of his house without a certificate is arrested . . . Life these days depends entirely on luck.”
This murderous madness never ended. In the 1930s, during the time of the Great Purges instituted by Soviet dictator Josef Stalin to wipe out all “enemies of the revolution” through mass executions, there were also sent millions to the GULAG prisons that stretched across all of the Soviet Union to be worked to death as slave labor to “build socialism.”
Before being sent to their death or to the forced labor camps, tens of thousands would be interrogated and cruelly tortured to get confessions out of people about non-existent crimes, imaginary anti-Soviet conspiracies, and false accusations against others.
Stalin personally sent instructions to the Soviet secret police that stated that in obtaining confessions from the accused, “the NKVD was given permission by the Central Committee [of the Communist Party] to use physical influence … as a completely correct and expedient method” of interrogation.
When Stalin was told that this method was bringing forth the desired results, he told the NKVD interrogators, “Give them the works until they come crawling to you on their bellies with confessions in their teeth.” Then, in another purge, this one after World War II, Stalin simplified the instructions even more: “Beat, beat and, once again, beat.”
Thousands of the victims wrote letters to Stalin from their exile and hardships in the labor camps, all of them persuaded that it had all been a terrible mistake. If only Comrade Stalin knew, he would set it all right and they would be freed and restored as good, loyal Soviet citizens ready to once again work to “build socialism.”
Stalin’s Personal Hand in Building Socialism Through Blood
But Stalin knew. He personally signed off on tens of thousands of death warrants and orders for tens of thousands more to be sent to their horrifying fate in the GULAG camps.
Domitri Volkogonov, a Soviet general-turned-historian, gained access to many of the closed Soviet archives in the 1980s, and wrote a biography of Stalin, entitled, Triumph and Tragedy (1991), meaning Stalin’s “triumph” to power and the resulting “tragedy” for the Soviet people. Volkogonov told a Western correspondent at the time:
“I would come home from working in Stalin’s archives, and I would be deeply shaken. I remember coming home after reading through the day of December 12, 1938. He signed thirty lists of death sentences that day, altogether about five thousand people, including many he personally knew, his friends . . .
“This is not what shook me. It turned out that, having signed these documents, he went to his personal theater very late that night and watched two movies, including “Happy Guys,” a popular comedy of the time. I simply could not understand how, after deciding the fate of several thousand lives, he could watch such a movie.
“But I was beginning to realize that morality plays no role for dictators. That’s when I understood why my father was shot, why my mother died in exile, why millions of people died.”
Soviet central planning even had quotas for the number of such enemies of the people to be killed in each region of the Soviet Union as well as the required numbers to be rounded up to be sent to work in the labor camps in the frigid waste lands of the Siberia and the Arctic Circle or the scorching deserts of Soviet Central Asia.
A Russian lawyer who had access to some of the formerly closed Soviet archives of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union in the 1990s told at the time:
“Recently I read a Central Committee document from 1937 that said the Voronezh secret police, according to the ‘regional plan,’ repressed in the ‘first category,’ nine thousand people – which means these people were executed. And for no reason, of course.
“Twenty-nine thousand were repressed in the ‘second category – meaning they were sent to labor camps. The local first secretary [of the Communist Party], however, writes that there are still more Trotskyites and kulaks who remain ‘unrepressed.’
“He is saying that the plan was fulfilled but the plan was not enough! And so he asked that it be increased by eight thousand. Stalin writes back, ‘No increase to nine thousand!’ The sickness of it. Its’ as if they were playing poking [and upping the ante in tragic human lives].”
The Victims of Socialism Literally Reduced to Burnt Ash
In the last years of the Soviet Union, a Russian historian took The New York Times correspondent, David Remnick, to the Donskoi Monastery in Moscow, which in the 1930s was used as a burial ground for the thousands regularly killed on Stalin’s orders in the capital of the Red Empire. In his book, Lenin’s Tomb: The Last Days of the Soviet Empire (1993), Remnick told what the Russian historian explained:
“See this gate? . . . Well, every night trucks stacked with bodies came back here and dumped them in a heap. They’d already been shot in the back of the head – you bleed less that way . . . They stacked the bodies in old wooden ammunition crates.
“The workers stoked up the underground ovens – right in through the doors – to about twelve thousand degrees centigrade. To make things nice and official they even had professional witnesses who counter-signed the various documents.
“When the bodies were burned they were reduced to ash and some chips of bone, maybe some teeth. They then buried the ashes in a pit . . . When the purges [of the 1930s] were at their peak . . . the furnaces worked all night and the domes of the churches were covered with ash. There was a fine dust of ash on the snow.”
The Kalitnikovsky Cemetery in Moscow also served as dumping ground for thousands of tortured and executed bodies in the 1930s. That same Russian historian told David Remnick:
“In the purges, every dog in town came to this place. That smell you smell now was three times as bad; blood was in the air. People would lean out of their windows and puke all night and the dogs howled until dawn. Sometimes they’d find a dog with an arm or a leg walking through the graveyard.”
Enemies of Socialism Sent to Torture in the Mental Ward
The nightmare of the socialist experiment, however, did not end with Stalin’s death in 1953. Its form merely changed in later decades. As head of the KGB in the 1970s, Yuri Andropov (who later was General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union after Leonid Brezhnev’s death in 1982), accepted a new theory in Soviet psychiatry that said that opposition to the socialist regime was a sign of mental illness.
Why? Because only the mentally disturbed would resist the logic and the truth of Marxian dialectical determinism and its “proof” that socialism and communism were the highest and most humane stage of social development. Those who criticized the system, or who wanted to reform or overthrow the Soviet socialist regime were mentally sick and required psychiatric treatment.
In his book, Russia and the Russians (1984), former Moscow correspondent for the Washington Post, Kevin Klose, told the story of Alexei Nikitin, a coal mine worker who complained to the Soviet government about the safety and health environment in the mines of the Soviet Union. He was arrested, tried, and found guilty of subversion and committed to a Soviet mental institution.
Various drugs were proscribed as treatment to bring him to his proper socialist senses. Explained Kevin Klose:
“Of all the drugs administered [at the mental institution] to impose discipline, sulfazine stood at the pinnacle of pain . . . ‘People injected with sulfazine were groaning, sighing with pain, cursing the psychiatrists and Soviet power, cursing with everything in their hearts,’ Alexei told us. ‘The people go into horrible convulsions and get completely disoriented. The body temperature rises to 40 degrees centigrade [104 degrees Fahrenheit] almost instantly, and the pain is so intense they cannot move from their beds for three days. Sulfazine is simply a way to destroy a man completely. If they torture you and break your arms, there is a certain specific pain and you somehow can stand it. But sulfazine is like a drill boring into your body that gets worse and worse until it’s more than you can stand. It’s impossible to endure. It is worse than torture, because, sometimes, torture may end. But this kind of torture man continue for years.’
“Sulfazine normally was ‘prescribed’ in a ‘course’ of injections of increasing strength over a period that might last up to two months . . . The doctors had many other drugs with which to control and punish. Most of them eventually were used on Alexei . . . At the end of two months, Nikitin was taken off sulfazine but regular doses of . . . other disorienting drugs continued the entire time he was imprisoned.”
The significance of these accounts is not their uniqueness but, rather, their monotonous repetition in every country in which socialism was imposed upon a society. In country after country, death, destruction, and privation followed in the wake of socialism’s triumph. Socialism’s history is an unending story of crushing tyranny and oceans of blood.
Socialism as the Ideology of Death and Destruction
As the Soviet mathematician and dissident, Igor Shafarevich, who spent many years in the GULAG slave labor camps for his opposition to the communist regime, said in his book, The Socialist Phenomenon (1980):
“Most socialist doctrines and movements are literally saturated with the mood of death, catastrophe, and destruction . . . One could regard the death of mankind as the final result to which the development of socialism leads.”
That twentieth century socialism would lead to nothing but this outcome was understood at the time of the Bolshevik victory in Russia. It was clearly expressed by the greatest intellectual opponent of socialism during the last one hundred years, the Austrian economist, Ludwig von Mises.
Near the end of his famous 1922 treatise, Socialism: An Economic and Sociological Analysis, Mises warned that:
“Socialism is not in the least what is pretends to be. It is not the pioneer of a better and finer world, but the spoiler of what thousands of years of civilization have created. It does not build, it destroys. For destruction is the essence of it. It produces nothing, it only consumes what the social order based on private ownership in the means of production has created . . . Each step leading towards Socialism must exhaust itself in the destruction of what already exists.”
When voices are raised today calling for socialism in America, including by those attempting to win a major party candidacy to run for the presidency of the United States, it is important – no, it is crucial – that the history and reality of socialism-in-practice in those parts of the world in which it was most thoroughly imposed and implemented be remembered and fully understood. If we do not, well, history has its own ways of repeating itself.
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The former United States. Has already run out of other people's money. Kaboom
True and the elites are trying to brainwash the 99% into accepting living with nothing so they can keep their own wealth because the 99% ran out of money to support the elites. It's not the Socialists coming for your money, it's the oligarchs and elites.
They're printing money now, after that they'll come for your entitlements, 401k, pensions, savings etc. Look at what is happening in Greece!
So that's why the interest rates the markets charge for US debt is at an all-time high...NOT.
Hate to break this to you, but the markets know better than you.
The reason why interest rate is zero is because DEBT-MONEY is worthless.
Thank God America is chest-deep in scoped bolt action rifles, modern sporting rifles, and premium ammo.
If it comes down to it, .3% will serve to actively resist and slay the beast, while the 99.7% will serve as spectators, spies, and meat shields for both sides.
The South shall rise again!
Showing why we should have castrated all the southern traitors after the War of Southern Treason.
Was it just you that was castrated?
Socialism is great! Just ask any farmer or pro sports team owner.
Double post sorry.
What people today call "Capitalism" is Cartel, Monopolistic, Anti-Competitive, Anti-Job, Racketeering, Corporate Socialism (some get part way there by calling it Corporatism). There's more than a clue in that economies are run on Debt (currency counterfeiting) rather than 'Capital'. Without "Capital", there is no "Capitalism".
Capitalism works mostly at the level of the Small and Medium sized Business. The startups, the investment for wealth creation (the Goose that lays the Golden Eggs). The capitalised businesses that create the vast majority of wealth creating and sharing jobs (and with mild deflation being a healthy part of the system - due to improving efficiencies and competition - purchasing power increases through a persons life, so their savings will easily take care of them in old age if they plan accordingly). Any self described 'Socialist' (whatever the Hell that is, it isn't a form of Government) that's actually interested in the wellbeing of 'the workers', should be rooting for Capitalism with all their vigour.
Corporate Socialism on the other hand, destroys wealth, destroys purchasing power (thanks to all that currency counterfeiting via inflation, devaluation, naked credit being fungible with the money supply, etc), destroys jobs, destroys savings, destroys pensions, and eventually implodes under its own insanity ("They pretended to pay us, so we pretended to work").
Corporate Socialism was Benito Mussolin's definition of Fascism, which he created to restore Internationalism for Communism, after the disaster for Internationalism that was WW1. For this achievement, Mussolini was heavily praised and rewarded, by the likes of Lenin, Stalin, and the Russian Communist Party. This explains Mussolini's frequent comment, that “Fascism is the same thing as Communism.”
Anybody that says Lenin, Stalin, Mussolini, Fascism, Adolf Hitler, National Socialism, and such, is "Right Wing", automatically define themselves as Trotskyites (the furthest of the far left, and so far beyond, there is nowhere further Left to go, and they have long fallen off the edge of reality and disappeared into a void of irrationality of their own making). Remember, Trotsky was so extreme and deranged, he was even booted out of the Russian Communist Party. I had a long experience growing up with a Trotskyite, my grandmother was one (and to whom common sense was a foreign Country).
No, the answer isn't on the Left, and it isn't on the Right either. Both are false labels that are tacked onto abuses of Democracy, to conceal the POWER GRAB that is taking place, and that's using USEFUL DISPOSABLE IDIOTS to do the heavy lifting for tyrants, who when they DO get power, dispose of the useful disposable idiots, because they can't have them hanging around getting upset because they aren't getting any share of that power, which is to be the exclusive property of first, a committee of tyrants, then once the worst of the worst has bumped them off, by the Dictator who has it all to themselves. This is how France managed to seize defeat from the jaws of victory with its Revolution, with its nonsense slogans and avoidance of reality, and thrust itself into the arms of a Napoleon Bonaparte (a recipe that has had many repetitions, before and since - only prevented by denial of power under the Rule of Law - and given the truths of the so recent American War of Independence, along with the 1688 Glorious Revolution in Britain, the French had absolutely no excuse for the travesty they inflicted upon themselves).
In the Words of George Orwell, who sums the predicament up nicely:
"We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.” Given that George had been soaked to the bone in Socialism, George did know what he was talking about.
The silly, irrelevant labels, designed to sucker in the suckers, are only ever used to establish that Dictatorship, the lawless State where "The Law is what 'we' say it is", and where Property Rights are destroyed - including the Property Rights in your own body.
Stop being suckered, and start being a part of the solution. Because unless you don't, you will all have to suffer under Thomas Hobbes definition of life under the proven lie and despotic tyranny of Divine Right, the lawless State, where no matter their means, no matter their station in Society, nobody is safe (including the tyrant), with this Psychopaths and Sociopaths Manifesto:
Rights
You conceded your rights to the government, in return for your life
Civil Society
Civil society is the application of force by the state to uphold contracts and so forth. Civil society is a creation of the state. What most modern people would call civil society is "jostling", pointless conflict and pursuit of selfish ends that a good government should suppress.
Role of the State
Whatever the state does is just by definition. All of society is a direct creation of the state, and a reflection of the will of the ruler.
The Social Contract
If you shut up and do as you are told, you have the right not to be killed
Authorized use of force
The concept of just use of force is meaningless or cannot be known. Just use of force is whatever force is authorized
Violation of the social contract
No right to rebel. The ruler's will defines good and evil for his subjects. The King can do no wrong, because lawful and unlawful, good and evil, are merely commands, merely the will of the ruler."
This is no different to the self proclaimed Satanist Aleister Crowley's "Do what thou wilt be the whole of the law". Beginning to see why all lawless States inevitably fail, that failure is usually catastrophic, and usually accompanied by great bloodshed. It's a massive problem that goes back much further than any silly concepts such as Socialism.
2 words "Zionist CUNTS"...
Stop swallowing the silly labels you are being encouraged to consume, and being fed to you by the criminally insane Psychopaths and Sociopaths.
Idiots. Both the guy that wrote this article, and most of the commenters here. What we have is not socialism. It's the inevitable end-result of capitalism. Large concentrations of wealth inevitably become power. Write that down ten times. I don't care how you set it up, somebody is going to accumulate the most wealth and that person is going to buy off the government if there is one or hire a private army if there isn't. There's absolutely no way to stop it. I you think that the people would create the necessary checks and balances you are fucking dreaming... that situation might work with a smart, aware population but for christ's sake the middle of the IQ bell curve is 100. That's right folks, 100. The average person is STUPID. Not uneducated, stupid. Somebody upthread suggested teaching critcal thinking; somebody with an IQ of 100 is not CAPABLE of critcal thinking. The libertardian fantasy is not going to work on a population too stupid to avoid exploitation.
You're probably wondering what I advocate... well, I don't. I've got an anthropology degree that I've never earned a penny with, and what I mostly got out of my study of indigenous cultures (and this is not, BTW, what my professors would like me to have gotten out of it) is that the only even remotely fair and balanced societies that have ever existed or CAN ever exist at this stage of humen evolution are autonomous units of 150 people or less with almost no material wealth. Our little monkey brains can't handle material wealth; we go fucking crazy. Nor can we deal with large numbers of people as individuals. In short, the agricultural revolution came at least 10,000 years too early and we are now completely fucked. There is NO way out. Tear this society down? Fine... but don't be surprised if what we build next is worse. I don't think we've even scratched the surface of ways to build badly designed big systems. And once again, we are not capable at this stage of bulding good ones.
Sorry whatver Gods there are... your earth shall be inherited by cockroaches. Next time try designing a sentient species that can think beyond next Tuesday.
What you have been encouraged to label as "Capitalism", is Cartel, Monopolistic, Anti-Competitive, Anti-Jobs, Racketeering, Corporate Socialism.
Stop drinking the Kool Aid.
And it's the only kind that will ever exist. You'll never find a way to stop wealth from becoming power.
Yes.Pretty depressing that millions of years of evolution ended up with us insane morons at the top of the food chain, intent on destroying all creatures, ourselves and our environment and doing it so well.
Oh - if you think intelligent creation did this, well that's even more depressing.
governments are mafia on steroids.
The Mafia has priciples, integrity, and a Code of Honour.
Name one Government that has those.
The Mafia would never take more than a share of the Golden Eggs, and would never kill the geese that lay them.
get them before they get you.
Gun control kills.
To die on you knees is pathetic.
Fluoride causes brain damage.
And yet the US not only armed but actively engaged with these people in chopping up Europe, the Middle East and Africa. Was that necessary? Probably not. It was just more expedient to get other people to fight and die for you. This whole article is a twisted conflagration. Soviet or Chinese Communism was never socialism, but unfortunately the elite, the ones who really control things do their level best to equate the two. As for murdering opponents, I direct your attention to (1) southeast Asia, (2) Latin America and (3) South America where a certain country known as the 'united states of america' decided, on their own, to declare that all of the countries in those territories 'rightfully' came under their ownership and control (i.e. The Monroe doctrine). How many people were killed by capitalism? How many people died brutally at the hands of right wing death squads that His Majesty Ronald Regan funded, equipped and commanded?
Sorry, but it isn't any philosophy of sharing and distributing that is to blame, it is the psychopaths who inevitably rise to power under every system of government ever invented. They get there because of complex reasons, but get there they do. Take a look at any country, any region on earth and you will see exactly the same thing. From the Pharoahs of Egypt to the Turks, Greeks, Macedonians, Spanish, Italians, Portugese, Dutch, British, Norweigans, Danes, Russians, Japanese, the Moguls of India, the Aztecs of Mexico they have all wared, killed, enslaved, brutalized and stolen from weaker populations. The problem is not only 'governments' and 'elites' it is the problem with the ape species.
They always take the guns first.
The camps follow.
They will use your love against you.
Maybe persecution will wake you up.
Yes, I endured years or sociallism in post war Britain.
After contracting childhood polio, my wife was' subjected' to years of corrective treatment , free of charge, which restored her to normal mobility.
I was bright , but my parents were broke. I was 'forced' to endure years of free education leading to a degree in Physics and emancipation from poverty.
My parents were provided with affordable housing and free medical care to the end.
Imagine how our lives could have turned out if we had the benefits of extreme capitalism.
Remind me again who paid for your "free" education. You're a prime example of what the author is talking about. You are willing to use the power of the state to forcefully extract money from others to benefit youself.
Wrong. Later on with decent jobs our taxes did for others what the state did for us. That's how it works. Sharing and caring, generosity, giving etc.. Soory for the bad language.
You were provided "free medical care, free education, affordable housing". Isn't profiting off the labor of others the exact opposite of what Socialism is about? For someone who hates Capitalism, you sure appear to want as much as you can get, for as little cost as you can get it for.
Wrong. After graduation we both got good jobs, paid our taxes and made our contributions to society.
I'm sorry if my wife's survival seems to you to be exploiting other workers.
So did my parents. Their contributions didn't save my mother from being murdered.
You live in a world where interdependencies are a reality you twit. No man/woman is an island.
If it is so good, why is it such a mess now, with "Care Pathway" Euthenasia disposing of anybody over the age of 75 that's unfortunate enough to end up in hospital?
Tell me this, why should my 75 year old mother, have "benefited" from a free death on the NHS?
That does NOT exist.
Imagine how our lives could have turned out if we had the benefits of extreme capitalism.
As if capitalism is the only alternative to socialism?
You could have had a fabulous middle class life just as millions of Americans did.
No. My wife would have died or remained a paraplegic and I would have worked for the london bus service like my dad, if I was lucky.
No way we could have afforded tertiary education or me not to start earning at 18.
it is important – no, it is crucial – that the history and reality of socialism-in-practice in those parts of the world in which it was most thoroughly imposed and implemented be remembered and fully understood. If we do not, well, history has its own ways of repeating itself.
And of course, capitalism is the only alternative to socialism.
Capitalism doesn't pretend to be a form of Government.
Capitalism doesn't pretend to be a form of Government.
Neither does religion.
Webster says: Capitalism: a way of organizing an economy so that the things that are used to make and transport products (such as land, oil, factories, ships, etc.) are owned by individual people and companies rather than by the government
I'd like to know how that translates into: a trader making a trading promise extending over time and space must get capital to back his promise ... and capital is interested in profiting from that backing. If that isn't a component of capitalism, what kind of ism is that a component of?
A nation gets what it asks for.
Not really. A Nation (any Nation) gets Psychopaths and Sociopaths floating to the top.
We now have the ability to test for them and filter them out, and it should be legislated for in EVERY Nation.
We may just end this 5,000 or so year curse on humanity, if we can get them filtered out of every position of influence.
They were not present in the Mother Cities of Civilisation (e.g. Caral in Peru, which didn't even need defensive fortifications for over 1,000 years), they appeared much later.
Hitler did his level best to save the world from Stalin. O so sad he failed boohooohooo poor Hitler!
During WW II, Stalin was a hero in the United States.
http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19430104,00.html
War over, 27,000,000 Soviet dead (Hitler did it, not Stalin, Ebeling you idiot), don't need you any more, now you're the enemy and Stalin is a demon.
Someone is dishonered here all right.
Hitler was engaged in a power grab (so was Stalin). There isn't enough power in the Universe to satisfy these Psychopaths lust for it.
Stalin still won. Hitler still lost. Too bad for fascists.
Stalin still won. Hitler still lost. Too bad for fascists.
I do not understand why people conflate socialism with COMMUNISM. They are completely different philosophies. Socialism organizes around the common good (the northern European countries practice it and it's called Democratic Socialism. Works very well for the people in those countries. Very Well. They live much better lives than we do here in the U.S.
Communism organizes around the State. Think China (before), Russia (before), East Germany, etc.
Stop confusing the two. One has very little to do with the other.
@ StrangerInAStra...
It's the exact same thing in the end result, but slower getting there. Pure Democracy lasts longer then mildly corrupted Democracy, which lasts longer than heavily corrupted Democracy, which lasts longer than the excuse of Democracy (missing out on all the good bits) paving the way for rapid Dictatorship. All the different degrees of Socialism are just greater or lesser degrees of the abuse of Democracy. Socialism is not a form of Government.
None of them can prevent the power grab and descent into the lawless State, because power is on the table to grab. Same goes for the other two forms of pure Government (there are only three, in addition to Democracy, there are Aristocracy, and Monarchy/Dictatorship), the heavier path has more emphasis on the corruption of Aristocracy, that is 'The Party' (e.g. the creation of a new 'Oligarch' Class, which can be mislabeled - like most things have been, to deliberately confuse - for example the 'Technocrats' of the EU).
Unfortunately, when power is available to grab, it always ends up in the hands of the worst of the worst (the Napoleons, the William the Conquerers, the Pol Pots, the Stalins, the Hitlers - the Psychopaths and Sociopaths).
The only successful cure for this very real insanity, is the inclusive balanced Republic (which includes all three possible forms of Government to take advantage of their unique and indispensable strengths), denying all of them power (they are forbidden the ability to make Law, because making Law is the exercising of power, so they are Legislators in Legislative bodies instead, and all legislation must comply with the Law to be lawful, otherwise it is illegal, and void), under the Rule of Law. The Rule of Law is literal, the words mean exactly what they say, and we are all supposed to be 'Governed' by the Law rather than people.
"If the Law makes the King, then the King is subject to the Law". This is why Thomas Jefferson could correctly state:
"In questions of power then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution."
This sane approach has now been reverted to the cult of personality, so that the power grab can be enabled and furthered.
In the balanced Republic, the weakest link for the power grab, would appear to be Democracy itself. Thanks to a badly implemented Act of Union 1707, within 50 years, the Democracy House in Britain (the House of Commons), was subverted by an influx of Jacobites, who busied themselves making illegal changes on the quiet to the Laws and Constitution. It took another 100+ years for these tyrants to fully subvert the House of Lords, which had kept the excesses of the tyrants in the House of Commons under a degree of control and limited power (until the Constitutionally illegal 1911 Parliament Act, in fact). William Pitt the Elder railed against what was going on at the time, and it was these subversive actions that were the real cause of America's War of Independence (confirmed by President John Quincy Adams, and it was nothing to do with King George, though he was effectively scapegoated to divert attention away from the real culprits):
"Instead of the arbitrary power of a King, must we submit to the arbitrary power of the House of Commons? If this be true, what benefit do we derive from the exchange? Tyranny my Lords is detestable in every shape, but none so formidable as where it is assumed and exercised by a number of tyrants.
But my Lords this is not the fact, this is not the Constitution, we have a Law of Parliament. We have a Statute Book and the Bill of Rights." William Pitt
http://www.theautomaticearth.com/tag/neoclassical/
GeoLib: In 1879 Henry George published Progress and Poverty. The book was an international sensation, at the time outsold only by the Bible. It remains economics’ No. 1 best seller.
Mason Gaffney: “George came out of a raw, naive new colony, California, as a scrappy marginal journalist. Yet his ideas exploded through the sophisticated metropolitan world as though into a vacuum. His book sales were in the millions. Seven short years after publishing Progress and Poverty in remote California he nearly took over as Mayor of New York City, the financial and intellectual capital of the nation.
In a democratic setting, playing a Georgist card can be a powerful move. Neither Right nor Left can criticise a Georgist position because Georgist reform gives them both what they want. George, as Mason Gaffney writes “had a way of taking two problems and composing them into one solution. He took two polar philosophies, collectivism and individualism, and synthesized a plan to combine the better features, and discard the worse features, of each.”
“Thus, George would cut the Gordian knot of modern dilemma-bound economics by raising demand, raising supply, raising incentives, improving equity, freeing up the market, supporting government, fostering capital formation, and paying public debts, all in one simple stroke. It’s quite a stroke, enough to leave one breathless.“ “George’s proposal lets us lower taxes on labour without raising taxes on capital. Indeed, it lets us lower taxes on both labour and capital at once, and without lowering public revenues.“ “Ultimately, Georgist policy saves the cost of civil disturbances and insurrections, and/or the cost of putting them down.”
A Simple Model
http://www.henrygeorge.org/isms.htm
Henry George and The Reconstruction Of Capitalism by Dr. Robert V. Andelson
http://schalkenbach.org/on-line-library/works-by-robert-v-andelson/henry...
http://www.henrygeorge.org/bearings.htm
True - there is a big difference. Sociailsm as it has evolved in Europe has dismantled state ownership of production, price and wage controls and is nothing like communism.
"“the NKVD was given permission by the Central Committee [of the Communist Party] to use physical influence … as a completely correct and expedient method” of interrogation."
Now where have we heard something like that recently? Oh yea,,, we say enhanced interrogation. It's all a process and we're about half way there.
I don't care what system one lives under,, the megalomaniacs eventually take over as they are morally bankrupt, greedy and vicious. They eventually learn how to usurp the system, whatever it may be. They worm their way into positions of power then, ever so slowly at first, they change the structure of the system much like a virus does. We are witnessing this very thing here in the good ole ussa.
Only one thing can stop megalomaniacs,,, and it's not a voting booth.
Okay... so what is that one thing? If you're going to point to your hunting rifle let me just laugh in your face now and get it over with. Good luck against drones, armored vehicles, and troops with assault rifles and body armor.
Besides, revolutions have a notoriously poor track record of ending tyranny; the more likely end result is the revolution gets bought and you replace one tyranny with another. Accept it: we're fucked.
You've studied the French Revolution. Everyone gets what they deserve, whether they deserve it or not.
To understand why Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot and all the other socialist dictators were so deadly see
Eric Jon Phelps - Vatican Assassins, Jesuit Order, Knights of Malta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F31TmQ9GwU
It will dawn on you that the Inquisition never died out and the Masonic, Zionist and Jesuit agents of the Black Nobility exist to this day to still purge disloyal groups to Rome and it's ancient bloodlines.
Nut case ; what the jesuits have to do with freemasson? mothing. It's forbiden to a freemasson when you're catholic.
Nut case ; what the jesuits have to do with freemasson? mothing. It's forbiden to a freemasson when you're catholic.
Strange, those pictures look nothing like what I saw in Finland.
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I don't see the point of this article. Aside from N Korea there is no state which embodies the extreme coercive communism referred to here.
There are many moderate socialist states however, which seem to be humane as well as quite successful including most of Europe and Australasia.
US incorporates several aspects of socialism eg
collective ownership of highway system , armed forces, law enforcement, library system
state support for education, health in a limited way.
intense regulation of all activities, licensing, permitting, penalizing etc.
The truth is, excesses of government whether communist or capitalist must be curbed and the best course lies between the extremes.
In a world turn upside down, where lie's and deceit are policy.
we hear them call out
this is not your fathers socialism
If someone wants my life it won't happen with me on my fucking knees!
They are programming us to accept their orders without question. Keep reading Solzhenitsyn and remember to hit them hard when they come for you.
At least they had to be forced to become slaves what you can't say about the U.S.
The early businessman seeking profit ........
1) I need cheap labour to work on my sugar plantations to maximise profit.
Slavery, ideal.
2) I need cheap labour to work in my factories to maximise profit.
Men, women and children all paid enough just to keep them alive to work.
The beginnings of regulation to deal with the inhuman monster that is the businessman seeking to maximise profit, ban slavery and child labour.
Where regulation is lax today?
Apple factories with suicide nets in China.
A leopard never changes its spots.
Someone said it earlier. The ism isn't the problem. The problem is the people running the system and living in it.
"in the 1990s, that around 68 million innocent, unarmed men, women and children were killed over the nearly 75 years of communist rule in the Soviet Union."
That's absolute bs. 90s were famous for falsifying history to make USSR look really bad to tear it down.
There is a huge diference between socialism et bolchevism. Bolchevicsk were mainly jews; Beria was a jew. The guard in uniform is in all probability a jew (NKVD) killing christians. So, everybody is entitle to have his way about the economy. But don't mix it with hate crime made on the basis of supremasist views.
There is a huge diference between socialism et bolchevism. Bolchevicsk were mainly jews; Beria was a jew. The guard in uniform is in all probability a jew (NKVD) killing christians. So, everybody is entitle to have his way about the economy. But don't mix it with hate crime made on the basis of supremasist views.
And Capitalism is just real innocent, not slavery or genocide there......
Remember the days before 2008, before Central Banks had to try and get the world economy going again.
The "wealth creators" were the ones responsible for the boom times.
Where are the “wealth creators” now?
1) Did they all die?
2) When the going got tough did they retire to their luxury yachts waiting for someone else to sort out the mess?
3) Were they abducted by aliens?
Answers on a postcard to:
Our policymakers, BIS, Switzerland
They love to muddy the concept of socalism with dictatorships, two different concepts with different social effects.
History doesn't repeat, nor does it rhyme. It isn't forgotten either. What happens is the power of indoctrination creates a 'false history' at the behest of the elite in order to re-write the minds of the plebs. We are seeing this in action. Thanks for the historically significant post. As we march further down the road of Socialism and thus genocide in the West, more and more calls for dissidence will be needed.
From 8000 BC to 9/11 | A Brief History of Your Enslavement
A finely rolled one dollar bill fits nicely in your ass..
Everything I need to know about dealing with Socialists I learned from Nguyen Ngoc Loan.