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Paul Craig Roberts: 9/11 Fourteen Years Later
Authored by Paul Craig Roberts,
Millions of refugees from Washington’s wars are currently over-running Europe. Washington’s 14-year and ongoing slaughter of Muslims and destruction of their countries are war crimes for which the US government’s official 9/11 conspiracy theory was the catalyst. Factual evidence and science do not support Washington’s conspiracy theory. The 9/11 Commission did not conduct an investigation. It was not permitted to investigate. The Commission sat and listened to the government’s story and wrote it down. Afterwards, the chairman and co-chairman of the Commission said that the Commission “was set up to fail.” For a factual explanation of 9/11, watch this film:
Here is a presentation by Pilots For 9/11 Truth:
And here is an extensive examination of many of the aspects of 9/11.
Phil Restino of the Central Florida chapter of Veterans For Peace wants to know why national antiwar organizations buy into the official 9/11 story when the official story is the basis for the wars that antiwar organizations oppose. Some are beginning to wonder if ineffectual peace groups are really Homeland Security or CIA fronts?
The account below of the government’s 9/11 conspiracy theory reads like a parody, but in fact is an accurate summary of the official 9/11 conspiracy theory. It was posted as a comment in the online UK Telegraph on September 12, 2009, in response to Charlie Sheen’s request to President Obama to conduct a real investigation into what happened on September 11, 2001.
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The Official Version of 9/11 goes something like this:
??Directed by a beardy-guy from a cave in Afghanistan, nineteen hard-drinking, coke-snorting, devout Muslims enjoy lap dances before their mission to meet Allah. ??Using nothing more than craft knifes, they overpower cabin crew, passengers and pilots on four planes.
??And hangover or not, they manage to give the world’s most sophisticated air defence system the slip. ??
Unfazed by leaving their “How to Fly a Passenger Jet” guide in the car at the airport, they master the controls in no-time and score direct hits on two towers, causing THREE to collapse completely. ??
The laws of physics fail, and the world watches in awe as asymmetrical damage and scattered low temperature fires cause steel-framed buildings to collapse symmetrically through their own mass at free-fall speed, for the first time in history.
??Despite their dastardly cunning and superb planning, they give their identity away by using explosion-proof passports, which survive the destruction of steel and concrete and fall to the ground where they are quickly discovered lying on top of the mass of debris.
Meanwhile in Washington
??Hani Hanjour, having previously flunked Cessna flying school, gets carried away with all the success of the day and suddenly finds incredible abilities behind the controls of a jet airliner. ??Instead of flying straight down into the large roof area of the Pentagon, he decides to show off a little. ??Executing an incredible 270 degree downward spiral, he levels off to hit the low facade of the Pentagon. ?Without ruining the nicely mowed lawn and at a speed just too fast to capture on video.
??In the skies above Pennsylvania ??
Desperate to talk to loved ones before their death, some passengers use sheer willpower to connect mobile calls that would not be possible until several years later.
??And following a heroic attempt by some to retake control of Flight 93, the airliner crashes into a Pennsylvania field leaving no trace of engines, fuselage or occupants except for the standard issue Muslim terrorist bandana.
??During these events
??President Bush continues to read “My Pet Goat” to a class of primary school children.?
In New York
??World Trade Center leaseholder Larry Silverstein blesses his own foresight in insuring the buildings against terrorist attack only six weeks previously. ?
In Washington
The Neoconservatives are overjoyed by the arrival of the “New Pearl Harbor,” the necessary catalyst for launching their pre-planned wars.
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On 9/11 the trust had been broken.
Along with everything else, all has fallen....
Welcome to the party PCR. Where ya been for the past decade?
There are some people who realize that the physical evidence indicates that the official story is wrong, but don't understand what purpose or interest the government may have had in carrying out the attacks and thus have a psychological relation to the entire event as remaining quite mysterious even though the government's claims are patently absurd. I'll resolve that for you.
On 9/11/91 Bush Sr. spoke before Congress calling for a new world order. Alright, so the president is announcing a major initiative to the world. What could he be up to?
As the USSR was collapsing, there were major operations underway to seize control of their industry. We need to lay down a little historical context for those unaware before proceeding.
Throughout the 1980s the CIA was heavily involved in cocaine and arms trafficking, money laundering, etc. The most famous name here might be Oliver North, but Bush Sr. is neck deep. Mena, Arkansas is a major hub for this operation under the jurisdiction of Bill Clinton. Long trail of deaths surrounding North, Clinton, Bush, Mena, etc. You can educate yourself on those details.
This scandal goes mainstream around 1986. In 1989 you get the first major form of collateralized debt obligations in the form of Brady Bonds, invented by Bush Sr.'s treasury secretary. Minimally informed people are aware of the centrality of CDOs to the 2008 financial panic and the endemic fraud to securities trades of this type.
One of the Bush/North associates is Neil Livingstone, who acts as a go between to Semion Mogilevich. Mogilevich is one of the biggest mafia leaders in the USSR at the time. Mogilevich has had money laundering through the Bank of New York exposed to the tune of $10 billion. He is a major arms dealer at the time, and also heavily connected to al-Qaeda. Part of a bargain Livingstone tried to broker with DoJ involved Mogilevich handing over a bunch of his al-Qaeda connections.
Around 9/11/91 a bunch of fraudulent Brady Bonds are issued through the Bank of New York, Mogilevich's personal money laundering machine. This manifests ten years later. If you go back and look at the settlement imbalances at banks after 9/11, even the banks operating out of WTC complexes don't have any real settlement issues. There is one major exception however: Mogilevich's money laundering hub, the Bank of New York, is reporting book imbalances in excess of $100 billion per day following the attacks. The rules governing security clearance were lifted immediately after 9/11 - allegedly due to widespread problems - but really just to allow BoNY to clear it's balances without a record. It's worth noting that BoNY did not sustain structural damage on 9/11 - not in the WTC.
So these 100s of billions of fraudulent securities that were not clearing in the days after 9/11 - where did they come from? What were they used for? This is how the west launched their invasion of Russia following the collapse. You'll find exposes about crates of freshly printed US bills being shipped to Russia like The Money Plane in NY Magazine, used to buy influence; the other side of this is the securities fraud used to buy assets. It's estimated that something like 40-50% of Russia had been bought up through the mafia by late 92 or 1993.
In 2000/2001 Putin comes onto the scene. He starts nationalizing Russian assets that were seized by the US via the above mentioned securities fraud / money laundering and putting pressure on the mob. Next thing you know 9/11 happens. There are a lot of bones to pick with the official story, but rather than taking up those issues I'd like to highlight the importance of some officially acknowledged but underreported facts.
On 9/9/01 Ahmad Massoud is assassinated by a fake TV crew that disguised a bomb as a TV camera. Two days later the secret service denies access to a couple of guys claiming to have an interview lined up with Bush in Florida on the morning of 9/11. This is our first direct threat against Bush of the day and indication of some larger plot than hijacked planes. Upon learning of the attacks, Bush insists on returning directly to Washington. In flight, a threat is received in the form of a call from an unknown source saying "Angel is next," angel being code for the president that only insiders would have. (* "Can you confirm the substance of that threat that was telephoned in...that Air Force One is next and using code words?" Fleischer: "Yes, I can. That's correct."(September 13)* )Bush is at this point aware that there is some sort of coup effort going on; for example, all the reporter's onboard AF1 are required to turn their cellphones off because they are worried about the attacking faction tracking cell signals - a capability we can all agree is well beyond that of al-Qaeda.
So Bush is under threat from people with high level insider knowledge. Press secretary acknowledged all this on national TV the day after (Angel is next being called in). Bush diverts to Barksdale which is basically the #2 nuclear command site. After a couple hours there he proceeds to Offutt, which is the #1 nuclear command site. You should also be aware of a variety of drills running on the day of 9/11, Vigilant Guardian. This is a full scale mock up of nuclear war; the whole infrastructure is activated for first strike (incidentally, part of the Vigilant Guardian drill in 2001 included a hijacking of planes as the instigator of the conflict). So what is Bush doing going to Barksdale and Offutt? Clearly trying to bring the nuclear forces to heel in light of learning of high level insider power plays.
This might be starting to sound a bit over the top - high level insiders seizing control of nuclear infrastructure and threatening the president with it. But only a few years later we have a similar incident in 2007 as 6 nuclear weapons are seized, generally regarded as intended for use starting the war in either Iran or Georgia. Later, in 2013, we again have nukes going off base unauthorized. Hours after it was reported in the media Sen. Graham is on TV warning of a nuke hit on South Carolina to be blamed on Syrian rebels; two of top nuclear commanders get dismissed in the following weeks. So high level insider fighting over the nuclear arsenal is pretty standard stuff, well known to the public.
With the question of a struggle over the nuclear arsenal now being common sense rather than shocking, we consider Bush caving to the terrorism line and starting the whole war on terror. You have Putin immediately backing off the seizure of assets in Russia. It won't be until the last couple of years that Putin resumes his assertion of authority over Russia; the US responds in kind with attacks on Syria and Ukraine but Russia has since quietly updated it's missile program and is prepared for nuclear war this time around; you now see a defiant Putin in the face of the 9/11 coup faction. Alongside this remarkable shift in geopolitics, there is an emerging anti-dollar block with the BRIC countries establishing an infrastructure bank last year. Just weeks ago, Glazyev announced this and is widely regarded as being the mouth of Putin; he organized the recent gas deal with Chin for example.
So you see 9/11 was a pivotal event used to extend the US dollar empire under threat of nuclear war for another 10-15 years in the face of an assertive Putin back in 2001 and growing domestic problems for the US Government. (You may recall the 90s was full of anti government militancy, concern over globalization, NAFTA, extraordinary distrust, in general what you would expect of citizens in an empire with no apparent external threat ... the cold war had ended)
So now that broad outline of purpose and motivation for 9/11 is clear, it's easier to come to terms with what your eyes tell you looking at Building 7 implode into its foot print at free fall for example. You don't even necessarily have to view it as an evil thing; the US people are quite severely fucked without something being done to backstop the US dollar.
The two pilots that did get up into the skies on 9/11 were told an attack was underway, the pilots themselves said they trained their eyes east towards the sea where they claim they thought Russian cruise missiles from submarines were most likely to have been coming. Hoping to sight and engage them. That is what they said right after 9/11. I do NOT know what they claim now.
Imagine these clowns, not being told what was happening, and think Russiam for no known sane reason, was attacking New York! Russian cruise missiles from submarines. Totally fucking insane. Pilots thought it was 1980, in the year 2001. This is how out of touch our military was at that time, still thinking Russia was coming to attack the USA.
End the Fed! End the deception! End the wars!
Until we do this, no major positive changes will happen.
Never forget (including how our government used this tragedy, that they likely helped in, to go to war and take more of our freedoms)
The collapse of World Trade 7 is a real buggaboo. I ask people how the building "just fell down" and they do not have an answer, but "Conspiracies are crazy talk..." And so it goes...
Multiple birds killed with a stone. 09-10-01 Rumsfeld announces that the Defense Dept. has lost track of 2.3 TRILLION FRN's,
and the next day a "plane" just happens to hit the accounting dept. of the Pentagon; what a serendipitous coincidence.
Patriot Act effective into law Oct. 26th, 2001, a month and a half after. After the fact, each one of these presidencies really makes a lot of sense. At this point, you can guess what possible role Trump or anyone else will be orchestrated to play in the coming years.
Obie... perfect choice, "elites." Touché.
Nine elevs... I was flipping through the teevee this evening to see what was up. Primetime teevee, most big network channels, showing the state-sponsored versions of the tale. Regular, good people still believe the lie in full. You can't convince them oherwise - poimanent damage, kid.
Absolutely correct.
I just wish there were more people who would be open to considering that ALL that we have seen on the global stage, including 'Primetime teevee', is a show meant to demoralize everyone to the point that we capitulate to these elite bastard's wishes just so we can stop the suffering for a time.
IMHO, we need to see this global shitshow for what it is - and there is no question in my mind, all that is going on now is meant to: 1. increase FEAR 2. consolidate global resources 3. enhance control 4. DEPOPULATE to 'manageable numbers'. And it has been PLANNED, for CENTURIES.
IS anyone else seeing this? I keep providing links to articles that show these connections and I get red arrowed so much I feel like a Star Trek intern. Are there any others here who see what I see - that all the moves we see on the global scene appear to be choreographed?
Dr. Roberts is usually wrong about everything. He's been predicting hyper-inflation for the past ten years. Instead, we're in the middle of a deflationary collapse. But I still love the guy.
On 9/11 the trust had been broken.
This is the heart of this question. Trust.
Who do we trust?
9-11 is not the first falsely presented event in history, nor is it the last, and the list continues as we sit here in this discussion.
But 9-11 is the most complex series of events they have ever faked. Because of the inherent complexity (three sites, multiple airplanes, tremendous logistics involved), to pull this off accurately would be an impossibility. Without the ability to create the necessary physical evidence of what they say happened, it becomes a question of telling the story. Whereas in past events, the 'off' details were small enough scale, obscure enough, and trivial enough to let people pass them over, in this event, there are large numbers of fundamental physical constants broken. What's more, in this event, the documentation is extensive enough that these errors are very well preserved and can be examined closely over a number of years.
It is depressing how long it takes for people to take off the blinders of trust, even when faced with overwhelming commonsense evidence of the lie being pushed upon them.
But based on my experience of comments on articles like this one, here and in more mainstream press, as well as my conversations with people in my daily life, the tide is slowly turning. Now the question is "is it too late"? As 9-11 fades into history, does the recognition of the truth of what happened that day fade into historical insignficance? This is the critical question.
The same people are in charge right now who were in charge that fateful day. If enough people genuinely can absorb what it means that people from our own power structure actively committed this crime upon thousands of our own citizens, we will begin to see change, going forward from here. Pushback has to happen. If people understand what this crime means, the genuine revulsion for the people who commit these kinds of acts will manifest.
But if people decide it is easier to continue to "trust it willl get better", with no evidence at all that it will, we continue our march on to destruction.
Do we trust 'them'? Who do we trust? What can we do about this? Two first steps: one, pay attention to what events you report (if the source - MSM - is untrustworthy, don't repeat what they tell you). Our repetition of their stories gives them their power. And two: pay close attention to whom you do business with. As powerful as they are, for example, if the public rejected the large banks, they could not survive. Business relationships are far and again the most widespread form of social contact among our species. This is how we change things. Interact differently, and the world will change.
None of this happens overnight. The wave seems to be moving away from the centralized power-grubbers. But is it enough?
Remove our trust. it's the strongest weapon we have. Enabling power addicts breeds more of the same. Just as it has always been.
I believe Napolean said something about history being a set of lies that was agreed upon. I think more accurately is the saying that history is written by the victors. And of course, that history is rewritten over time... adjusted to fit the narrative of the victors. Shit, we are watching it happen right now in our schools. Right before our eyes. Some of my kids textbooks just make me want to cry. And I personally came to realize many years ago that most of what I was taught was a lie. Or a purposeful omission.
Anyhow, the problem with the 9/11 subject is that people get sucked into the complex technical issues (where they don't have the education or training). Just look at the posts on the subject. It is a joke. The whole concept of misdirection is easy as pie... make simple subjects appear complex. Complex subjects, like this one, are just gems. All it takes is a little sprinking of BS and the truth gets lost in plain sight. People start connecting dots and drawing conclusions wildly. Because we all know 9/11 itself was a conspiracy, every little piece of it therefore - right down the the behavior of the materials - must therefore be a conspiracy. Flawed logic. A set of dominoes is put into motion by a single intentional move. The rest is physics. In the case of 9/11, there were multiple pushes.
You want to know where the real traitors are... they invaded the 9/11 truthers. Destroyed it's credibility from within.
Centerline are you the same person who posted last time that the twin towers fell because of the burning fuel from the planes impact ?? and also you claimed not to know much of building 7.. and you are an engineer who criticized other engineers for rebutting the facts presented by our government.. Please find another site to post your hypocrisy and delusions.. NEVER believe the government BS!!!!! R.I.P George Carlin maybe you should watch him and get a laugh because last post you had everyone going to the toilet for diarrhea.. LOL
You clearly read nothing and/or understood nothing about the subject at hand. Just another ZH moonbat. Your post here is flawed right out of the chutes. What you are writing here is not my words or the entirety of my position. Perhaps you arfe purposely working an angle which ought to raise eyebrows around here.
Oh, and the only other (unverified) engineers drew first blood and provided nothing in terms of debate. Lemme see - a civil engineer who must be an EIT, a mech dude who probably does HVAC design, and some other guy who probably is a PE but wasn't sure there are engineers licensed in so many states which tells me he is isolated, industry wise. Not one intellegent comment coming back though. Because, in order to pose something intellegent requires at least a handle on the material.
Nice try though. Epic fail.
oh, also, hmmm... forex trader huh. Some qualification there to be discussing engineering. Regular expert in these matters I see. lol.
I can't picture you now... Big unemployed, hairy, angry dude in his mom's basement wearing wife beater sitting in front of a terminal yelling for more baklava because you can't get up due to a very important forex trade.
You are Very funny I give you credit on that, and for the most part you are right.. Big and hairy squat 400 pounds and bench press 300 pounds.. Love baklava and Greek mothers are the best.. As for the part unemployed, sorry bro yesterday made 5K in a little over an hour!! Please join the Forex market and come and swim with the Sharks.. Just to remind you 95% lose.. My profession if I am wrong I lose Money!! If you are wrong you get to vent it off and look for another Job.. Reverse analogy towards me quoting i am big so in respect you must have a napoleon complex since you brought him up.. Think small and look small.. Did your mother work for a massage parlor or she owned it? to send you to an ivy league school..WASTE of money..I am critical thinker and far right wing constitutional loyalist!!!! Sorry Government is full of shit and so are you..
Dup
This story is similar to many I've saw on the subject. Just enough pieces to appear somewhat plausible but when you take each little detail it shows complete ignorance of reality. Take the Bank of NY clearing issues. Anybody who's been involved in markets knows that Bank of NY is one of two major clearing firms. They hold for custody the securities of all the other major banks, hedge funds, ect. (Along with State Street up in Boston)So of course they were the only one with clearing issues. THEY CLEAR FOR EVERYONE. This whole thread reminds me of the 19 year olds sitting in their dorm rooms post 9-11 "solving" 9-11 and putting the answers on line with short films. As their story was taken apart piece by piece they kept changing the story until they gave up. The real story in my view that was covered up was related to Saudi's helping Bin Laden and the Bush administration covering for the royal family to save them from the world knowing about their crazy cousins.
End the Fed! End the deception!
Get your head out of your ass. There will never be concilliation as long as there exists a coercive monopolistic government run by sociopaths. Free markets are the answer.
I said it before and I'll say it again, as long as I am free to do so - https://mises.org/library/market-liberty http://freekeene.com/2007/12/26/free-audiobook-the-market-for-liberty/
Beyond local trade, there is no such thing as a "free market."
Mr. Burton.
You're starting to read a good deal like Paul Craig Roberts.
Do you know each other? ^_^
Id still like to know where the 2 trillion they lost that Rumsfeldt admitted to the day before 9-11 went
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=91&v=n3xgjxJwedA
Thanks- amazing how a commodore 64 in a cave in Afghanistan took over the Deutsche bank computers(sarcasm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=351&v=Kg7Qt4bV0B8
My question is when this happens again, will the Sheeple rise to the occasion under the banner of patriotism, or are they going to question things this time around?
Honestly the number of people I've met that question it has risen dramatically. This was completely taboo 5 years ago.
ZH has a relatively higher average IQ than most places, is there anyone on here that really believes the story as pushed by msm?
I dunno...
We still haven't gone after all the things from the last time around yet.
And nothing ensures a next time like that...
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9/11 Conspiracy Solved: Names, Connections, & Details Exposed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_fp5kaVYhk
Solving 9-11 The Deception That Changed the World
http://dotsub.com/view/e33114ec-dcad-42a8-8683-6fe9adf3f4b6
www.drjudywood.com/
Dr. Judy Wood - Where Did the Towers Go?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWjktDuIhR8
Rebekah Roth 9/11 NEW INFORMATION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG7ZPzBIdFk
Rebecca Roth with George Noorey/Methodical Illusion: http://www.methodicalillusion.com/index.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40gr189DHIo
Rebekah Roth: Methodical Illusion-Missing Pieces of 9-11 (Offplanet Radio)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O88reBqnmE4
I lit a match in the Empire State Building. I grew a beard before I did it and it was amazing, the building almost collapsed.
The only way the two World Trade Center jets could have hit their targets at such high speed was if they were controlled by a portable TACAN air control system (Tactical Air Navigation) set up in Two World Trade Center. Only the military then had access to such portable TACAN systems. Video from security CCTV cameras of the TACAN unit being offloaded to a high floor of 2WTC is not available thanks to leaseholder Silverstein claiming that he was installing new electrical cabling in the building requiring all power to be shut off from the 45th floor up from 7 September to 9 September. That power shutoff disabled all the security cameras in the building above the 44th elevator lobby floor. Calibrating the TACAN would have generated electronic pulses that would have caused sensitive electrical equipment like computer monitors to show signs of jamming - signal interference. But there weren't any tenants in the high floors of the building when the TACAN testing was done. Nor do we have any public record of the contract the Port Authority signed to do the electrical cabling work.
"The only way the two World Trade Center jets could have hit their targets at such high speed was if they were controlled by a portable TACAN air control system (Tactical Air Navigation) set up in Two World Trade Center."
That is an interesting fiction. Hollywood needs writers.
What? That's not believable? He skipped the part where Santa did a flyby on the towers and the Easter Bunny had to hop for its life in SHANKESVILLE.
It's impossible for a fire to knock down a building constructed like that!!! Are they kidding me there is no way fire alone could do that!!! There has to be someone on the top floor jumping up and down to start the collapse.
You have to be careful walking around in those buildings. If you step to hard you could collapse the building. Some people don't know this but the first building they constructed they were almost done and an ant farted and knocked the whole building down. True story ask the FBI.
Oh, and the trillions of dollars 'lost' in the building
Sorry, this started when a sitting president was murdered in Dallas Texas in 1963. When you can commit open murder in broad daylight in a major US city, you can do anything.
9/11 is likely the single biggest lie and deception ever perpetrated here in USSA today? There are some other huge ones to be sure, like the fed reserve and how fractional reserve banking is actually just a ponzi scheme, but sold as a legitmate system for the good of the public welfare and commerce in general ? Obama care is another. They are all illusions created to control all of us and nothing more. And these are just a few mentioned , the obvious ones ! It is quite apparent they have worked rather well , at least up to now. I see many of them breaking down and that is why we see so much turmoil and angst in every event and matter before us. The illusions are simply breaking down.They have run their course and the control freaks are out of lies and manipulations. As well far too many have woke up and realize it all for what it is to be able to keep the total control they have in the past. Not just here in USSA today, but in China , Russia and many other countries who are rapidly fleeing USD for a complete lack of confidence ! The jig is uo to be sure and still many here in this country are clueless . But they were always clueless and always will be until the day they feel the outcomes themselves first hand. That day is right around the corner and actually already in motion !
By the way Oregon sucks donkey any more and is little different than Kawleefornya, just not as many people. Although most are concentrated on I-5 corridor, the cesspool of the state ! which is why I live on the other side :)
Kawleefornya, Washington, Oregon really are the left coast.
Is history and mankind supposed to read differently when you're alive or something?
Look out for the next mainearazona911Frankenstein .
SUCK IT DOWN AMERICA!!!
They have cheered their demise. The whole world knows, yet they allow the insanity to continue. Why?
IGNORANCE and massive deception
Please show me the "novel" contribution to the dialogue that PCR makes with this article.
Because if none is made ZH is wasting space posting it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1GCeuSr3Mk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7mDXHn_byA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DegLpgJmFL8
I don't know why you are collecting junks like a fat chick collects donuts... it's a perfectly fair comment.
I've always thought personally that Lil' Bush being on camera reading to a bunch of kids during 9/11 was a little too convenient... almost felt like an alibi to me.
Got me thinking... if you went back through all of Bush's calendars and counted the number of times he did hokey PR drivel like read to children (off election year) on camera, the number would be pretty fucking small. I mean the odds AGAINST him doing something like that ON FILM during 9/11 must be staggering. Chances are infinitely higher that he would have been in Crawford TX taking a dump.
So there you go... something novel for you just for stopping by.
I asked the ZH readers to show me what Paul Craig Roberts brings to the table in this article that you have not seen a MILLION times before.
That is the ONLY reason to give someone space on your page.
But it is just a rehash.
Sad.
He is as credible as a US government official can get. He is not richer than filth due to selling out his nation. And he is a scholar and a gentleman.
There are people waking up right fucking now. Let them view RECENT reports, not outdated reports. FFS. Critiquing others work negatively is a lazy man's pass time.
critique / [kri-teek]
noun
1. an article or essay criticizing a literary or other work; detailed evaluation; review.
And WTF is a 'pass time'?
All that aside, nobody has a quarrel with PCR... he is pretty solid. The point being made is that this artlcle contains nothing new. That is all.
What's "new" is ZH posting an article openly criticizing the official narrative of 9/11.
There's been plenty of articles criticizing the response, but the narrative has been sacred in the corporate press. Good to see it playing 'off Broadway' here at ZH.
Exactly, Ignatius!
Yup, first time I've seen such an article on the front page. PCR is a high profile guy to make such assertions and 9/11 is a pretty ballsy date for him to publish it and ZH to run it on the front page.
past and passed - Past time? IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT ME TO TYPE MUFTHERFUCKER
PAST TIME
happy?
fuck you - I am working and I have not had a vacation for half a fucking century SO FUCK YOU AND THE WHORE YOU RODE IN ON.
There is a lot more to know about 911 than just falling buildings:
https://davidjgregory.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/murdering-liberty-kill...
The bankers must repay us.
The "Network of Global Corporate Control" stole "many thousands of trillions" of dollars from us, which amounts to millions of dollars each for every person on the planet.
http://divinecosmos.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lyXi1efbYrk#t=863
That you know it, that I know it, and that a majority of long time readers on ZH know it is not the point.
Bunny summed it up in one sentence "There are people waking up right fucking now." That is to say - people are slowly becoming aware of the situation but may not have the desire/drive to actively seek out information. By providing articles like the above it not only allows those who have a feeling something is fucked up to get some perspective and insite into something they otherwise wouldn't have had, but also brings it to the forefront for those of us - you, me, all of us who already know the truth - to keep that truth fresh in our minds as can be seen from the comments.
I used to know the early x86 architecture like that back of my hand and had no problems with circuit boards. Fast forward 20 years and I can't remember fuck all about it. So I'm glad these articles are posted. It was also a laugh. I logged onto facefuck for the first time in over a year just to post the first bit. Might stir a few people up.
BoNeSxxx
"The point being made is that this artlcle contains nothing new. That is all."
Not so. Re-read the comments.
The contention was made that the PCR article about 9-11-2001 events
should NOT have been published at ZH on 9-11-2015
because it allegedly contained nothing "new" to the long-time readers at ZH.
That is what earned my down votes.
Apparently, according to some,
no facts or arguments or history ever presented at ZH once before
should ever be mentioned or summarized again
(nor, consequently, ever again opened for review or comment.)
Anniversary is exactly the time for re-hash.
yep, anniversary of the massive lie and deception
To some degree it is . But realize the majority out there still believe the garbage we were all spoon fed about 9/11. So it does serve a purpose to expose the truth of the matter yet today. ZH is not the special place any more it once was for lots of reasons. Nor does it have a strangle hold on intelligence, not even close ! Some of PCRs stuff is way off base IMO. I get his email letter. But he does have some of it quite right. So if we insulate ourselves from many sources, exactly how would we know what REAL is in the completely fake world we all live in where the control freaks run amok in every matter and event ? We all live in masive illusions !
When you make the kind of truthful and honest contribution PCR has consistently made to the political and economic discourse of the day, then maybe we'll listen to you.
Look, 9/11? I studied the official side, and the anti official side of this story. Frankly, neither seems credible in every sense. I saw the plane hit the Towers on the videos. I heard an eye witness minutes after the pentagon was hit tell a news crew he saw the tail end of an airliner enter the pentagon.
So, did or did not these planes hit these targets?
I'll tell you what I do think. I think the Government knew a major massive terror attack was going to be made, and they played dumb waiting for it to come in, and allow the agenda the Neocons and intelligence and military agnecies had all prayed for. Remember, the USSR had been dead for some time, there was no excuse for 1 trillion dollars a year in military, spies and secret police and NSA. So yes, I think government was willfully stupid, for a self serving reason.
Was it all a fake? I'm afraid I can't go that far. Maybe Mossad was one Al-Qaeda helper who got the stupid Arabs into postion to actually pull this off. Mossad will do anything, they even admit it, to further Israel as god's hand on earth.
The twin towers, were built by a method totally new at the time it went up. It was held in place by the floors attaching to the exterior members, otherwise, it twisted like a wet noddle. This design was badly flawed. Never should have been built, it was built the way it was to save money, and achieve the great height. Flawed design, look into how these buildings were engineered to be static load bearing structures, bizzare designs. May well have been vulnerable to any massive blow. Not airplane proof I believe.
Not one of your better posts Jack. I will chalk it up to 9/11 fatigue.
Not at all one of his best. Who hijacked Jack Burton?
Well Jack, I will go along with these people since they are probably more qualified than you to discuss the qualities of the structures and their demise.
http://www.blacklistednews.com/Architects_%26_Engineers_for_911_Truth_Bi...
Dude, seriously...
A training exercise that completely renders useless the entire nationwide radar scopes with false contacts, sending all aircraft that would have intercepted into the Atlantic. In addition to that, they changed the FAA protocol that had been SOP for 20 years at least, regarding hijacked aircraft 30 days, 30 FUCKING DAYS before the event, disallowing interdiction and breaking the communication chains. That old protocol was incidentally put back in force immediately after the event.
Not to mention one of the planes landing at Boston Logan, covered on the local news with tail number in the distance, passengers unloaded in a NASA hangar.
Even without the last fact, it's damning evidence. The cover up operation had to be absolutely massive. Anyone involved should absolutely burn in hell for eternity. That was an unconscionable act that was at minimum permissively and actively facilitated by members of the US government. They are all traitors to their oath, and the worst kind of murderous slime that could possibly exist on this planet.
If you all haven't seen it, a really great video was created by Basel University (CH) in conjunction with Indiana University: Google "Dr. Danielle Ganser 9/11 10 years later"
Hey Jack, your position makes far more sense to me than either the official story or the wild, off-their-lithium-again conspiracy wackos here at ZH.
The wacko conspiracy theorists here are a bunch of elitist slimeballs who can't tolerate dissent - they want this to be all faked, a total conspiracy, for personal, emotional and psychological reasons having to do with their own twisted, hate-filled psyche - they aren't using their intellect to reason things out. Rather, their minds are completely twisted by their unrestrained hate for any and all order, but especially that by the U.S. They think with their passions and emotions.
So Jack, your position is very logical and reasonable, and I think it has the most chance of being the correct story of what really happened.
The wacked-out shit-brains that abuse you verbally do so in an admission that they can't tolerate scrutiny because your logic is threatening their artifical anarchist castle they've worked so hard to build up and take refuge in. Just consider the source.
Did you forget the /s ?
No I didn't forget the /s. I wasn't being sarcastic.
The extremist ZH conspiracy theorists don't want to believe in anything - except, of course, in their pet theories, according to which, all events are controlled and orchestrated by greedy, 'demonic' humans and organizations and institutions bent on chaos, ruin, secret dictatorship, etc.
That way, they are released from all responsibility, from all moral obligation, and from all need to trust in anyone or anything, because everything is evil and under the control of the secret puppet masters. It's a lazy, cynical and completely irresponsible approach to life. It's their excuse for non-participation, for unresolved hatred of almost everything and everyone.
These people have a sickness. A psychological and emotional sickness. And the only thing they are engaged in is the mission of trying to make converts to their sicknesses.
People that berate others for the rational search for fact based on evidence are brain-dead regime tools, especially when it's a fact that resulted in the death of friends and family and thousands of innocents, thousands of kids sent off to war, and millions of victims on the other side of the war.
You're seriously fucked up dude.
You lost me when I encountered the word "rational" in your post. The extremist conspiracy types I'm talking about don't know the meaning of "rational".
I'm not against all consipracy theories - I believe in some of them because the rational facts do support those theories.
I'm railing against the wacko extremists of the type that would have us believe 911 was entirely orchestrated by Jews, Russians, neocons and maybe even some Martians. Those people have brains infected with shit and they need to get back on their lithium tablets.
By the way - all - thanks for all the downvotes - I wear it as a badge.
The extremist ZH conspiracy theorists don't want to believe in anything - except, of course, in their pet theories, according to which, all events are controlled and orchestrated by greedy, 'demonic' humans and organizations and institutions bent on chaos, ruin, secret dictatorship, etc.
Quite the opposite. It took me a long time to come to terms with what I saw that day: years. I couldn't believe that events could be manipulated in this way. For a long time, I was on the fence, because my view of human nature could not accept that people like this existed, or that they would have the ability to pull something on this scale off.
No, instead, I was forced over time to acknowledge this sad state of affairs, because I do believe in physical constants in the natural world. Paper and jet fuel have temperatures they burn at. Steel has a temperature it melts at. Airplanes have a wingspan. These realities are fixed. I have witnessed them. They don't change.
No, I am not happy about the conclusions I have been forced to, and I feel no "success" at convincing people of what has happened. I just will not accept when someone tells me something I know to be impossible.
Finally, I have a small network of people in whom I trust completely. I am totally responsible to them. They do not remotely include the group of men and women who would perpetrate a lie of this magnitude.
I am sad about the conclusions I am forced to draw. There is no celebration in why I argue what I do.
Sadly, I can only give you one up-vote. Your brain cells work.
SofaPapa - I doubt you're the wacko type I'm railing against. You seem quite reasoned and logical.
Unless you tell me that the planes didn't really hit the Towers, or that they were piloted by Jews, or that the neocons loaded them with TNT before they took off, of some other crock that has no substance in facts.
I'm interested in whether you accept Jack Burton's view of 911 as he expressed it in this thread, or do you go further into the theory that it was all orchestrated beforehand?
You do know the definition of a conspiracy, right? Two or more people planning an illegal or immoral act. So clearly the official story is a conspiracy theory. 19 hijackers plus Osama and that Egyptian guy makes 21 people, which as you may know is greater than or equal to 2.
When you look at the evidence, it's obvious the gov't conspiracy theory is absurd.
Just waiting with bated breath to see what James Cole has to say on the matter.
Government knew it was coming like Pearl Harbor.
Right on Jack. All three towers that went down were constructed like beer cans with all the strength in the outside walls thus when the upper floors went it went straight down like a beer can against bubbas head. As with a beer can it's quite strong as it sits but put a dent in the side and it crumples easy. Building 7 was heavily damaged on one side by debris from the towers and so had the kink near ground level that led to it's downfall. They set up a system to measure the movement of the building and knew it would eventually come down so they abandoned. One commenter calling you an idiot mentioned a spine that held the towers up is the idiot. It was way too small to hold up a building, it was there to try to control sway, that big and if the elevators were inside that spine it was flimsier yet but was enough to help keep the fall straight. Amazing how so many compare these poorly made towers with the Empire State that was built exceptionally strong with box girder construction. A great selling point with the towers were the huge atriums and wide open spaces due to lack of interior columns.
There is a video from the parking lot that clearly shows a plane hitting the Pentagon. I've seen pictures on skeptic websites that doubt a plane hit the Pentagon and yet if you look closely there are pieces of the airplane scattered about.
One thing about the truthers is they are doing a fantastic job for the CIA and the US government. There is a very good chance it was a false flag that happened exactly as it did but was planned and set in motion from overseas with a small dedicated staff pulling the strings. Thus Israeli's dancing on the rooftop which is true and reported in the mainstream media. For the skeptic narratives to be true thousands would have been involved and no way it would be kept secret. With so many nut cases spouting obvious convoluted garbage no one is going to pressure the powers that be into looking for a Mossad or Saudi intelligence connection that could have pulled off this operation and kept it secret..
From wikipedia: The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) found a three-page white paper that mentioned another aircraft impact analysis, involving impact of a jet at 600 mph (970 km/h), was indeed considered, but the original documentation of the study was, ironically, lost when Port Authority offices were destroyed in the collapse of the World Trade Center the morning of September 11th. 2001.
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Any information showing that One and Two World Trade Center could have withstood a single jet impact had to be destroyed. The Port Authority is a government agency that doesn't generate just one copy of a study that cost them a lot of money. NIST never bothered to look for other copies of this study on jet impact effects on the World Trade Center.
There is a video from the parking lot that clearly shows a plane hitting the Pentagon. I've seen pictures on skeptic websites that doubt a plane hit the Pentagon and yet if you look closely there are pieces of the airplane scattered about.
What complete and utter bullshit. There's been only two videos released of the Pentagon impact, and they reveal virtually nothing but a single frame showing a pale blur, practically at ground level, then a fireball.
There is virtually NO damage to the Pentagon lawn. The impact hole is almost perfectly circular and there is absolutely no sign of any damage to the left and right of the hole in the building's facade consistent with wings and engines striking them at great speed.
Right on Jack. All three towers that went down were constructed like beer cans with all the strength in the outside walls thus when the upper floors went it went straight down like a beer can against bubbas head. As with a beer can it's quite strong as it sits but put a dent in the side and it crumples easy. Building 7 was heavily damaged on one side by debris from the towers and so had the kink near ground level that led to it's downfall.
More horseshit. Whereas the two towers were indeed built like very tall, flat-sided coke-cans, WT7 was a relatively squat, rectangular construction, with - for a steel-framed building - relatively little damage. Yet it just suddenly collapsed into its own footprint.
"Whereas the two towers were indeed built like very tall, flat-sided coke-cans, WT7 was a relatively squat, rectangular construction, with - for a steel-framed building - relatively little damage. Yet it just suddenly collapsed into its own footprint."
An interesting fiction.
World Trade 7 was on fire from around 10:30 am. The fires that didn't burn out, continued, out of control, until the building collapsed late in the afternoon. The building was being damaged all the time that it was on fire.
It also didn't just suddenly collapse. The first obvious sign in the video, was the collapse of floors below the East Penthouse. Structural steel associated with those floors was damaged before they collapsed. Floor to ceiling flames were photographed pouring out east wall windows on one of the lower floors.
It's own footprint. That is such a bogusly used term. Doesn't matter to anything, whether it fell in its own footprint or not. It fell outside its footprint, too. The far eastern portion of the north wall twisted to the north as it fell. That motion put that section of the building outside its footprint.
You've got some terms to straighten out - out of control fire means there were attempts to control it that were unsuccessful. UNCONTROLLED means there were not even any attempts to control it - moreover, nobody ever even took a LOOK at it.
"there be some fires" = "here be dragons"
once again a highly asymmetrical theory, producing a very symmetrical result. that passes your logic test?
you must have a faulty logic circuit, if that's the case.
"The impact hole is almost perfectly circular and there is absolutely no sign of any damage to the left and right of the hole in the building's facade consistent with wings and engines striking them at great speed."
A jetliner fuselage is circular and the size of the hole would be consistent with that.
There was a lot of fire to the left and right of the hole, which made it difficult to tell what damage the wings might have caused to the reinforced concrete wall.
There were a number of witnesses who saw an American Airlines jetliner heading toward The Pentagon and some who saw the jetliner strike it.
TV talking heads dont count.
where's the engines?
yeah, that's what I thought.
Constructed like beer cans? Frank DeMartini, the construction manager for WTC, stated they could withstand multiple plane impacts. Here's a picture of the South tower under construction. Don't be a tool.
http://www.nycvintageimages.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_f...
I does not matter what the the buildings were made of, nor how poorly. PHYSICS would act on them identically. It is literally IMPOSSIBLE to reach free-fall speed with ANY resistance from below. NIST retracted their "Pancake Theory" only after a ton of folks who actually have a clue about (what amounts to but only simple) physics pointed out to them that their theory was shit.
"For the skeptic narratives to be true thousands would have been involved and no way it would be kept secret."
Really? Ever hear of the Manhattan Project? (http://www.ushistory.org/us/51f.asp)
Secrecy was paramount. Neither the Germans nor the Japanese could learn of the project. Roosevelt and Churchill also agreed that the Stalin would be kept in the dark. Consequently, there was no public awareness or debate. Keeping 120,000 people quiet would be impossible; therefore only a small privileged cadre of inner scientists and officials knew about the atomic bomb's development. In fact, Vice-President Truman had never heard of the Manhattan Project until he became President Truman.
120, 000 people! And this went on for several years!
Your turn!
"May well have been vulnerable to any massive blow. Not airplane proof I believe."
Actually, they were designed to be airplane-proof.
Well said Jack, and I agree. The real tragedy is how it all has been turned into a conspiracy circus. Sort of the same as drowning the truth in misinformation instead of hiding it. No one seems to know how to focus in on it. Rather, it devolves into moonbattery.
Oh, and don't bother arguing it here. Tyler put this article up on purpose. It is a freak magnet. The sort of people who will go apeshit and downvote statements of fact.
So if the tail of the plane was seen then why was no vidoe of a plane ever reeleased ? Becausse it was not a plane it was a missile and live witnesses at the site, within 20 feet of the hole created, said there was no airplane wreckage , zero, as in none ! And none was ever shown on any TV broadcast from day one ! But that is just one glaring anomoly. No doubt the towers were hit by the palnes , but "why" is the question one must ask. And who knew this was in motion, what was their motives ?
9/11 was allowed to take place just like Boston was. The Russians gave us almost 2 years advanced notice that the boys were training in Chechnya and were high risk. So with that kind of advance info do you believe the CIA and FBI could not have followed these guys 24/7, 365 and prevented it ? I don't. It too ws deliberately allowed. And we are being setup at this very moment for more ! Why do you think the borders are wide open and have been the entire time ? BHO and crew are on steroids to make something happen within CONTUS so they can install martial law and that solves any debt problem and everybody is off the hook in their criminal minds. They would then have complete and total control over YOU and all their crimes and the crimes of the banks would simply go away ! They would kill about 10 birds with one stone.
We all live in massive illusions !
Congrats for showing the masses how to correctly apply Occam's Razor.
Only minor difference I wouldn't say the design twisted like wet noodle, the issue is more with the truss decks and that the outer column vertical sections were held together by 4 bolts each.
Everyone was paid that lost family and no lawsuits or investigation allowed. Passports surviving infernos is just ridiculous. However, no one is allowed to reopen the case
Families were vocal early on. When the cash began to flow, they all shut the fuck up, and got in line with the Government. That much is clear. Money talks.
If they gave us each a cool million, would we STFU?
Nah.
Besides, they killed off people. Like the Mafia, to shut people up. Beverley Eckert for example.
but those that didn't shadup, well you know.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GZkCpXB3h0
David Copperfield did it........
Never forget the Satan Clause.
Do we have to read these articles every year on 9/11 ??? How long before they stopped with Pearl Harbor stories. I say enough is enough.
I think I can speak for 90% of ZH when I say:
Fuck off!
I had friends that died from this shit. Fuck, I almost died from this shit. Seriously, fuck yourself or wake the fuck up.
Also, those same murderous fuckers are still in power, still with the various agencies from NIST to the fucking FBI. A rational person would sleep with a gun at night after that hammer of truth. But no, you say "I don't want to hear it anymore". You know because miley cyrus grinding a pole is more interesting.
Possibly the most pivotal moment in our lives and in what the future holds - nah, keep the reminders coming.
Where are the Dancing Israelis? Arrested and held under harsh interrogation, the Dancers were quickly shipped back to dance in Israel. But cops and the woman witness both saw the happy festive dancers celebrating the buring towers. High Fives were seen to be given, in between Jewish folk dances. Deny it if you can! But you can not, evidence of it is air tight!
Jack
you seem to be NOT the same Jack Burton of four years ago, slightly askew in your analysis and grammar. Are you yet another well spoken, well thought out contrarian who's name has been coopted by the borg? Much like Steven Colbert of late?
I thibnk so.
'I Pet Goat' https://vimeo.com/44583147
the twin towers had structural flaws, and there was no fix . the gusset plates were breaking away from the columns. the welds were ok. it was the columns themselves that were cracking. too thin, or inferior steel,or engineering failure. maybe all three. add to that the asbestos mandate, and it was inevitable the buildings would have to be demolished. this comes from a tv program , not sure how long before 9-11-2001
Interesting.
Please provide the name of said TV program.
Since we know who owns virtually ALL of media and we know that some significant planning was required if the buildings were to be purposely demolished - by ANY means, I'd say that a show pointing out "structural flaws" some time prior is rather convenient - don't you?
I'll repeat what I posted above:
It does not matter what the buildings were constructed of or how they were constructed as physics would still act the same upon them. The near free-fall speeds obtained from their collapse pretty much suggests that the lower portions of the buildings HAD to have been compromised. Lots of reports from folks at ground level of hearing explosions AT/below ground level. These are facts. I don't bother too much with trying to figure out why all this happened, as we shall never know: BUT, I DO understand that the "official" information does not comport with facts and physics.
One of Steve Corbett's best
9/11 Trillions: Follow The Moneyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3xgjxJwedA
James Corbett
Of course. Sorry, I feel like a dick
No harm no foul... That Corbett link is a great post though.
<insert 4th grade dick jokes here>
lol
911 The Truth In 5 Minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgrunnLcG9Q
Conspiracy theories are the refuge of the powerless and the mentally ill. Hence the "Zero" in ZH.
Has 'Conspiracy Theory' Lost Its Negative Connotations?http://www.psmag.com/politics-and-law/has-conspiracy-theory-lost-its-neg...
The boys downtown are workimg on a new label as we speak
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-23/1967-he-cia-created-phrase-conspiracy-theorists-and-ways-attack-anyone-who-challenge
In 1967, the CIA Created the Label "Conspiracy Theorists" ... to Attack Anyone Who Challenges the "Official" Narrative
we are news junkies. we read the fucking news you dickface. we read every version of a story because we like FINE DETAILS. and when we notice a discrepancy, we say something. You got a problem with that? I have to sit here and watch Americans destory their own fucking country and place themselves in such a vulnerable state that the vision of what is in store for them makes me shudder and tears come to my eyes. GET OUT OF OUR WAY.
Fuck You
9/11 WAS NOT SOME SAUDIS WITH BOX CUTTERS
9/11 WAS NOT SOME RANDOM "ATTACK"
MOUNTAINS OF EVIDENCE...AND YOU GO ON ABOUT THE "POWERLESS"....
SAY "ZERO" WHEN YOU LOOK IN THE MIRROR - MORON.
No, I think they intended to dive bomb the airplanes into the New York Stock Exchange Building, Truly Crippling the US Economy but those really tall buildings must have got in their way.
Plus, if they hit the Stock Exchange, Larry Silverstein would not get his multi billion dollar insuraunce pay day.
Obviously there is a rogue element of the MIC that orchestrated 9/11. If anyone wants me to believe the most funded and intelligent military couldn't intercept planes from setroying 3 towers in NYC and the fucking Pentagon I'm sorry, I don't believe you.
---> Inside Job
Nobody ever won an award for starting with a false premise.
but a whole lot of people were gifted big red smoking jackets for not "playing the game"
But they're silk, nigga!!!!!
Rogue? The very basis of MIC is based on thievery and murder. No, rogue would be a whistleblower...
i always loved that explanation. yet most of the world bought the story without a thought. i remember giving up trying to explain how it would be impossible for 4 bogies to fly around for a coupla hours in the the most protected airspace in the world.
I Remote Viewed the installation of nano-thermite in World Trade #1 & 2, plus I Remote Viewed the detonators being delivered and placed near to all the elevators. I also Remote Viewed Barry Jennings getting the phone call in Building #7.
No shit.
If you'd actually cultivated such techniques...hah, we'd see better posts from you. Plus you wouldnt brag about it in such a 4th grade manner.
I did not cultivate Remote Viewing techniques, detached.amusement. Remote Viewing manifests spontaneously in almost all instances. Only a few times have I intentionally Remote Viewed subject matter but by no means have I 'cultivated' the techniques so that they can be used at will. Moreover, when I mention Remote Viewing instances I am not bragging about it. The only thing I am trying to convey is that I did Remote View some of the controlled demolition preparations at WTC #1 & #2. And I don't fucking lie about shit like that, or embellish for creativity sake, d.a.
yeah, what was that about opening one's mouth and removing all doubt again? what kind of db upvotes himself.
I did not upvote myself, trollboy.
p.s. go fuck yourself, jerkoff.
Oh, FFS, not this conspiracy crap again. Good lord the stupid burns 3rd degree hot here sometimes.
Enough of the 911 troofers already.
Who the fuck do you think you are? God? Over 1000 people died, from 103 different countries, 40% of those who died were employess of the US government.
There has never been an arrest warrant issued for bin laden. He has never been charged. IT IS ALL A JOKE.
But you'll never duct tape me - I have been at this every fucking night for a decade you fuck, and if you do not like it, then here is some fucking news. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO READ IT.
But I have one question for you. ONE QUESTION!
Are you a Jew?
I'm embarassed at the stupidty of the 9-11 truther types who produce these idiotic videos. The molten metal was aluminum from the plane and the explosions were when it contacted water on the lower floors. Are people incapable of doing any actual research?
Congratulations! That was the imbecile of the year comment.
The temperatures required to melt i-beams would have vaporized the aluminum. Anyway, I can't believe you actually posted that.
I had the perfect jenga tower man, and out of no where, it fell on it's own man, just like the towers, man..
Remember the '93 WTC bombing?
For what it's worth; the structural repairs then were understandibly significant and included strengthening the towers to the extent that, when they collapsed live for all the world to see, a highly placed professional tasked with the then project, stated categorically that the collapses were impossible. That voice was stilled within the week.
Career/health prospects I suppose.
The detail that really facinates me however, is the Naudet brothers and their film.
Right time, right place. What do you suppose the chances of getting that lucky are?
Anyone into film scripts?
http://911foreknowledge.com/staged.htm
It's a lengthy read, but stay with it as the author reverse-writes the script from the film and reveals the planning required for each scene.
With all the cameras in the world in place and focused on the towers after the initial attack, and in time to full feature the second plane, it would've been a crying shame to leave documenting the first attack to chance and possibly miss out on milking all that 'lucky' propaganda footage.
Your country is less yours than you think.
The WTC 93’ bombing was an FBI operation. Emad Salem was an Egyptian military officer and explosives expert brought in to the US by the US Gov. It came out in Manhattan District Court that Salem was being run by the FBI and when he was told to build a real bomb he knew he was being set up so he began secretly recording his conversations with the FBI criminals. When he whipped the tapes out at his trial the Gov paid him a million bucks to shut him up and get him out of the country. Even the CIA controlled Wikipedia states – “Emad A. Salem is an FBI informant”
But as Paul Craig Roberts has stated -
There will always be Americans who will believe whatever the government tells them no matter how many times they know the government has lied to them... –
Bonus question – Is it true that Bin laden Construction got a major contract in the WC 93’ bombing repairs?
“The easiest way to gain control of a population is to carry out acts of terror.” – Joseph Stalin
"Remember the '93 WTC bombing?
For what it's worth; the structural repairs then were understandibly significant and included strengthening the towers to the extent that, when they collapsed live for all the world to see, a highly placed professional tasked with the then project, stated categorically that the collapses were impossible. That voice was stilled within the week."
The new York Times contacted some architects and engineers immediately after the collapses and while none yet had any way of assessing specific details, none considered it to be impossible for the Towers to collapse.
As could be seen in video and photographs of the damaged north wall of 1 World Trade, it consisted of column sections with aluminum cladding, just as it did when it was constructed. No obvious structural changes.
A highly placed professional, but you don't have his name. Any work that would have been done in the wake of 1993, would have been documented and any architect or engineer would have been able to review it.
FFS! There is so much good stuff on ZH, why does the site have to put this crap into the mix? Read rebuttals of the 'truthers' claims and it becomes obvious no one could have staged 9/11. Moreover, read psychologists explanation of why intelligent, normally insightful people can suspend logic and believe all manner of 'conspiracy theories'. The 9/11 response was badly thought through but that does NOT make the act itself in any way shape or form even remotely less real and what happened has been accurately reported. ZH seriously and disturbingly discredits itself by subscribing to this nonsense.
In fact posting this garbage makes me wonder how much else ZH has fabricated, exaggerated or delusionally believed. A huge pity as ZH was the one contrarian voice I most respected.
Tyler, do your homework and get rid of this rubbish.
Mossad Arab Saudi national that never flew a real 767 could hijack and manually pilot or gradually decline at such a rate to perfectally strike the pentagon building 10ft off the ground with a perfect approach tha knocked out street lamps on the highway near the pentagon??
Limo driver witness on that highway " man, that plane be 30-40 ft right above me man, knocked the damn street light out man... It was a gliding mo- fo..
You sound like you work for the government? Maybe a troll?
The concern trolls are concerned. Earn those shekels.
Care to counter the arguments?
i should be the sympathetic uber american, but i dont like either side. Christians and muslims in all honesty come off as primitives to me, the only difference is christians work better in a civilized society. vote up down, diagonal, its your call its a free country. christians have been betrayed to follow the us party line to shit on oil rich countries for corporate interests. Betrayed christians is what the article should be called.
Im me, i have no allegiance to a religious system of indulgences or pilgrimages. Just as you are. You can worship a glittery ufo covered in tampax and dldoes and thats all you. More power to you.
9/11 is to a pearl harbor, as to sept 08 is to finance, a turning point.
HERE WE ARE, THE ENEMY IS IN POWER.
HERE, CALLING SHOTS. I DIDNT LIKE CHRISTIANS, BUT I HATE MUSLIMS.
ON US SOIL FOLKS, NOW ..............HAVE A SHOT AND JUST GET IT AND PROVE ME WRONG FUCKIN APES.
Agree entirely. The age of critical thinking has been lost on virtally all of today's Christians. There are a few voices in the wilderness who understand and write that much of the new testament never happened and was invented whole-clothe by people seeking to validate their own beliefs, one-up contenders of competing beliefs and consolidate power during the chaos of the first and second centuries.
You gotta admit the CIA really outdid themselves on 9-11... The greatest mass mind control event in human history...
But it's the thousand little details that impress me the most, and , that the mostly brain dead, T.V. controlled public didn't register any of it.
For example in hindsight remember around early 2001 when all the sudden there was this big media to-do about Three-Dollar Bill Clinton setting up his 'extravagant' presidential offices at the World Trade center. Then Clinton moves his office to Harlem because of the ‘outcry’ and that after all he was black anyway. Remember that? It was a tell that even Clinton didn't know about the upcoming attack and then was informed by the cabal.
It's little shit like that which helps make the 9-11 tapestry into a piece of Luciferian art.
Or how bout all that Shanksville horse shit? The cabal even had a movie made to disseminate and reinforce the imposition of their fantasy in the public mind. "Let's roll" my ass... The whole Solicitor General tear jerker story about being on the phone with his wife was a stinkin lie. Also the only two phone calls coming out of the plane were made from sky-phones and both callers stated that there was gas flooding into the cabin and they were having trouble breathing... So much for Todd Beamer and the Let's Roll B.S.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Col. Donn de Grand-Pre stated not long after the event that The Happy Hooligans out of North Dakota [who were involved in a training exercise in IIRC North Carolina] disobeyed orders and shot down Flight 93. Col. Donn de Grand-Pre was murdered within 14 days of his statement. (http://www.prisonplanet.com/022904degrand.htm)
Flight 93 was supposed to crash into the capital dome...possibly to bring in marshal law... but there's more. A few days later three Israeli agents (One the son of an IDF General) were busted trying to get into the Mexican National Congress by tailgating behind a trade delegation. They were caught with automatic weapons, grenades, and explosives... of course they were released. Not long after that Vincente Fox came to Washington on a long scheduled visit to meet with Bush jr… Now it doesn't take a Hollywood script writer to figure their original plan out... Too bad part of it went to shit... And too bad that La Raza out of southern California was to my knowledge the only news outlet in the US that covered that story.
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