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Remembering 9/11: The Wolf In 'Patriot Act' Sheep's Clothing

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Submitted by Thad Beversdorf via FirstRebuttal.com,

This is a piece I wrote last year for Ron Paul’s Voices of Liberty.  Now although mainstream media has all but put a gag order on 9/11 memorial coverage, I believe this article’s message has never been more relevant and so I’m posting again at what is obviously poignant time.  I find it odd that we have 10 Hollywood blockbusters made each year about the holocaust 75 years on, but only 14 years after the event American media will no longer discuss 9/11, even upon the anniversary.  It is perhaps the most telling phenomenon about the secretiveness and mystery surrounding the horrific tragedy.

It was the sixth week of my first job fresh out of college. I was still eagerly excited for each new day. Having moved stateside from a small town in Canada to finish up university and then on to the big city of Chicago, I was still in awe of America. I was working in the north building of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange on the corner of Madison and Wacker. It was early morning and I was on the phone with Paul Salvio from our New York office when...

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...the phone went dead.

The day was September 11, 2001. Our New York office was on the 92nd floor of the World Trade Center Tower 1. None of the employees who had arrived to work that day survived. It is a moment that elicits strong emotions within me to this day and I know I’m not alone.

In the days and weeks that followed, while the world came together to mourn those lost and to condemn those responsible, our policymakers in Washington were working feverishly to find opportunity in this tragedy. Forty-five days after 9/11, President Bush signed into law the U.S. Patriot Act.

The implication of the ironically titled bill is well described by a report published in March 2009 by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). The report, called  “Reclaiming Patriotism,” suggests that the Patriot Act “fundamentally altered the relationship Americans share with their Government.”

Politicians took advantage of a moment of extreme duress for the American people to push through a bill that not only breached the spirit of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights but also directly contradicts the rights guaranteed under the 1st and 4th Amendments. The Patriot Act gave powers to the executive branch of our government it was never meant to have. Such restriction of powers was mandated by the founding fathers through the legal framework of which this nation is governed; a legal framework of which each legislator is sworn to uphold upon taking office.

The ACLU’s 2009 report provides an interesting and unintended perspective on the fundamental dangers of the Patriot Act because it was published prior to revelations made by National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden. Note the following excerpt from the ACLU 2009 report:

“Worse, it authorizes the government to engage in this expanded domestic spying in secret, with few, if any, protections built in to ensure these powers are not abused, and little opportunity for Congress to review whether the authorities it granted the government actually made Americans any safer.” ?

But such fears were repeatedly calmed by those who were handed the authority over and entrusted with such powers.

 

And so, we see, concerns about Patriot Act abuses at the time of the ACLU report were only hypothetical and thus easily and reassuringly refuted by those in charge of the surveillances being done under the authority of the Patriot Act.

And then Edward Snowden entered the room...

 

Snowden revealed that not only were the very abuses predicted by the ACLU taking place but they were part of a larger and well defined strategy that had been intentionally hidden from the American people.

Many of the surveillance programs revealed by Snowden are part of subsequent legislative bills that fall under the umbrella and authority of rights granted by the Patriot Act. In a sense it has become the “Pandora’s box” against the rights and freedoms of the American people. Since the Patriot Act opened the floodgates, we’ve had a steady stream of bills further expanding the (illegal) powers to those in charge.

The claims that these programs are unlawful are not simply laymen opinion. Several courts across the nation have heard various cases and determined that many aspects of the programs are in breach of the U.S. Constitution. ?  Yet, no one has been prosecuted and the programs under the Patriot Act not only continue but are expanding.

History and common sense tell us that those in power will always attempt to beget more power. Several independent studies prove that these programs have very little impact on protecting Americans from terrorism while the Snowden leaks evidence the wide abuses taking place for political motivations. The Patriot Act has become the enemy it claims necessitates its existence. It is the most prolific form of terrorism against the American citizenry (and many of our allies) today.

The argument so often touted by beneficiaries of the Patriot Act is that trading freedom for safety is an acceptable trade. That argument is not only invalid it is unsound. Freedom and safety are not mutually exclusive and even if they were the slippery slope aspect of such way of thinking makes it a false proposition. If you haven’t done so, you must fully examine the Snowden revelations to comprehend the extent of the tyranny authorized and enacted by the Patriot Act and its subsidiary Acts.

Let me bring this to a sharp point for any who have yet to feel it—a terrible thing happened to this nation on 9/11 that none of us expected ever would. We felt vulnerable for maybe the first time within the borders of our nation, the strongest nation on this earth. It changed many of us in very profound ways. At that point, in that moment, all we wanted to feel is that it would and that it could never happen again. And so we entrusted our leaders to work together on implementing policies that would ensure our freedom be safe from those who want to take it from us.

The Patriot Act was sold to Americans as a shield to defend our freedom, that it was to ensure our rights as guaranteed by our constitution and the Bill of Rights would be safe from evildoers. However, the sad reality is that our leaders took our moment of need as an opportunity to further enhance the powers of the state over the power of the people. We know this now thanks to some incredibly brave and heroic Americans like Snowden who gave up their individual freedom to defend the freedom of a nation.  It is on the rest of us now to stand up to the tyranny of those whose interests are narrow and selfish and whose lies and deceit represent the most monumental and immediate threat to our freedom.

 

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Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:14 | 6535359 hedgeless_horseman
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Never forget...

The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin
Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards. 

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:18 | 6535385 Oldwood
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Never forget....there is no safety, individually or in numbers. Once we come to terms with that, we can all live free. Every action we take to impose ourselves onto others in an effort to adjust our odds, only increases our ultimate risk of oppression. One's self is the only security we have and should need. Lets work on that, rather than calculating ways in which to lever the power of the collective to our favor.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:12 | 6535560 Takeaction2
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Was traveling home yesterday from a fun trip to Kentucky, and going through the airport I always "Opt Out" of those X-Ray Machines.  When you "Opt Out" of these machines in the airport, the TSA (T-housands S-tanding A-round) get all excitied and like to try and make you a specticle so the other sheep will go through the scanner quickly and not cause friction.  They yell on their communicator so everyone can see and here... "We have a male Opt Out...We have a male Opt Out" and they make you stand in front of everyone and wait for another TSA agent to take you over for the "Pat Down" area. They always have to say a paragraph to you that basically states "We are going to touch your balls as we go inside your thigh".   A TSA (T-ake S-cissors A-way) agent was standing next to me (65 year old woman)  and under her breath she said "I am always shocked when parents allow their kids to go through that thing.....my supervisor says they are safe, but I don't trust'em."  I quickly said "Why is it when you get X-Rayed at the dental office they put a lead vest on your chest, and they leave the room and go in a safe room when they pull the trigger"  She said.."Your Right...the government always lies to us."  Then I had to say it......"Do you believe 3 buildings fell from jet fuel?"  She looked at me...smiled...said "Absolutely not.."  It was like a scene out of a movie.  We are so screwed.  See you in the re-education camp. 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:13 | 6535672 Ignatius
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When people go along with the big lie, while knowing it's a lie, the hook is set deeper.  It's one thing to fool someone and it's another thing to go along knowing one has been fooled.  Why would these criminals feel any restraint at all?  They don't.  We are all paying this price.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:22 | 6535720 Utah_Get_Me_2
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Have you noticed how many 'fictional' dystopic films and novels are now morphing together and frighteningly becoming reality right before our eyes.

 '1984', 'Brave New World', 'Captain America:Winter Soldier','The Matrix', Equilibrium', 'Hunger Games', 'Children of Men', 'V For Vendetta', etc.......

We are undoubtedly in the opening act of our own dystopic nightmare 'movie'. It will have to get much worse before it gets better I fear.  

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:50 | 6535892 Ignatius
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Yes, and though it may not seem apparent to many awake souls here, the way out is spiritual.  It seems to me that to love God is to love the truth - they can't be seperated.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 15:27 | 6537253 SofaPapa
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Way off topic, but I completely agree.

My definition of God has always been 'what happens'.  Sometimes we like it, sometimes we don't, but whatever happened is God's will.  It's a lot simpler definition than that found in the religions based off of Abraham.  I like simplicity.

+1

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 22:28 | 6537862 Radical Marijuana
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SofaPopa, I do NOT regard your comment as being "way off topic," but rather, as penetrating deeper into the radical center of the topic of 9/11.

My view is that "God" is approached by the principle of the conservation of energy and momentum, and the preservation of information as a form of energy. However, the biggest bullies' bullshit world view has suppressed that, by inverting the concept of entropy, so that we are taught to misunderstand things in the most absurdly backward ways possible. (An arbitrary minus sign was inserted into the entropy equations of thermodynamics and information theory, in order that those would continue to be presented in ways which were consistent with the biggest bullies' bullshit world views.)

I recommend intellectual scientific revolutions, that then apply to political science, as the ways to attempt to cope with the intense paradoxes that develop when one more fully recognizes how and why governments are necessarily the biggest forms of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals. Those kinds of paradigm shifts may be asymptotically approached through creative synthesis of post-modernizing science with ancient mysticism.

The most intense ironies are due to the degree that the progress in physical science has deliberately NOT been followed by progress in political science. Of course, one can readily comprehend how and why that is the case after one recognizes that governments ENFORCE FRAUDS by privately controlled banks, and therefore, the systems of debt slavery are backed by wars based on deceits.

I have found that the more one studies 9/11, and the monetary systems, the more those overlap, especially as one attempts to approach the pyramidion people at the top of the current social pyramid systems. It is NOT an accident that, in order to believe in the official story about 9/11, one has to deliberately ignore basic physics. Similarly, it is not any accident that the established monetary systems demand that the vast majority of people deliberately ignore the principle of the conservation of energy, as well as misunderstand the concept of entropy in absurdly backwards ways.

The established social systems are based upon ENFORCING FRAUDS. For generation after generation, the vast majority of people have adapted to living inside of those kinds of systems based upon some people controlling other people by backing up deceits with destruction. The results are that we are living inside of Wonderland Matrix Bizarro Worlds. Previously, those manifested as various old-fashioned state religions. Now, the two dominate, integrated, state religions in the USA, and around the world, today are the monetary system and national security. Both are based on sophisticated systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence.

The deeper problems are due to the social successfulness achieved through backing up lies with violence never stops those lies from still being false. Therefore, society as a whole becomes more psychotically out of touch with physical realities, due to the development of psychological and political habits based upon the long history of pyramid schemes ENFORCING FRAUDS. The world we are living in now is almost totally dominated by the best available professional liars and immaculate hypocrites.

Ideally, we should develop more genuine spirituality, and more people should understand the basic principles of philosophy. However, all of the dominate social systems are effective STATE RELIGIONS BASED ON ENFORCING FRAUDS. Therefore, instead of reconciling progress in mathematical physics through matching progress in metaphysics, the technologies made possible due to progress in physics have ended up being developed to become globalized systems of electronic monkey money frauds, backed by the threat of force from apes with atomic bombs.

Similarly, very sophisticated technology was used during the events that happened on 9/11/2001, which included scientifically advanced psychological and political techniques. So far, those have been quite successful in starting more genocidal wars, as well as preparing to impose democidal martial law. Meanwhile, tragically, there is almost no publicly significant opposition to that, other than controlled opposition which stays within the same deceitful frame of reference regarding the basic ways that human beings operate their death control systems.

The degree to which the State Religions are dominate includes the degree to which there is almost no publicly significant opposition to those which is not also controlled, and especially controlled by the ways that they think, which they tend to continue to take completely for granted. The following observation applies quite thoroughly to all of the people who point out some superficial analysis regarding the established systems being operated by professional hypocrites, in ways which actually accomplish the opposite of what they stated that they were supposed to be doing, as expressed on Zero Hedge by Cognitive Dissonance:

"The absolute best controlled opposition is one that doesn't know they are controlled."

In my view, more genuine spirituality and appreciation of the fundamental principles of philosophy is necessarily INTENSELY PARADOXICAL, as expressed by the challenges presented when attempting creative syntheses between post-modernizing science with ancient mysticism. The existence of globalized electronic frauds, backed by the threat of force from atomic bombs, depends upon the existence of quantum mechanics, and the special theory of relativity, ETC.. The mathematical physics those are based upon necessarily approaches the world views of ancient mysticism. However, at the same time, the established social pyramid systems require that the vast majority of people either deliberately ignore those, or deliberately misunderstand those in the most absurdly backward ways possible.

Believing the official story regarding the events on 9/11 requires one to deliberately ignore relatively common sense basic physics. That is one of the most spectacular symbols of the more hyper-complicated ways that the entire political economy is based upon STATE RELIGIONS ENFORCING FRAUDS.  In my view, many people would rather continue to promote ridiculous presentations of basic physics (such as the many down voted comments and replies above), rather than suffer through the severe cognitive dissonance that it takes to comprehend that 9/11 was an inside job, false flag attack, whereby the ruling classes developed their power to "protect us," despite them actually being our worst enemies. (Presumably, some of those posting comments and replies that deliberately ignored basic physics are somehow benefiting from continuing to uphold the Huge Lies regarding 9/11, etc.?)

I believe that one can understand how natural selection pressures developed through the history of warfare to become the established systems where the human artificial selection systems are based upon the maximum possible deceits and frauds. However, in my view, in order to more completely do that, one has to attempt to grapple with the ways that: "The absolute best controlled opposition is one that doesn't know they are controlled."

The biggest bullies' bullshit world view has been built into the dominate natural languages and philosophy of science, to the degree that it is extremely difficult to avoid thinking in ways based upon that bullshit world view, and even more difficult to attempt to communicate in ways which are not biased by implicit beliefs in that bullshit. Again, 9/11 provides the most spectacular symbol of that, so far, since public discussions about 9/11 demonstrate the relevance of the saying that: "The lies are different at every level."

While I not sure of "the truth," however, I am sure that society is controlled by Huge Lies, and that overall appears to be getting worse ... Indeed, the more that some people begin to appreciate the magnitude of those Huge Lies, the most unstable the established systems become, and hence, the greater it appears to make the threat of some "Next 9/11" happening ???

The fundamental problem continues to be progress in physical science, without that being surpassed by progress in political science. The political problems surrounding 9/11 are the most spectacular symbols of that, inasmuch as the official story about what happened IS physically impossible to be correct, and yet, those Huge Lies continue to be socially dominate, as they were originally promoted by the mass media, and so on and so forth ...

While the patterns of comments and votes on Zero Hedge demonstrate that the majority of those doing that recognize the official stories regarding 9/11 are physically impossible, the real world continues to actually be controlled by systems based upon ENFORCING FRAUDS. The prolonged history of backing up deceits with destruction, enabling State Religions to become socially dominate, despite being based on Huge Lies, was spectacularly symbolized by the consequences of 9/11.

Considering that everyone who uses the currently exist public "money" supplies are, therefore, operating INSIDE ENFORCED FRAUDS, the degree to which people are living INSIDE Wonderland Matrix Bizarro Worlds is almost impossible to exaggerate. Clearly, civilization is controlled by the principles and methods of organized crime, whose excessive successfulness has driven that civilization towards becoming runaway criminal insanities.

9/11 was done by the ruling classes, in order to advance their systems of debt slavery backed by wars based on deceits. Those systems of debt slavery have already generated numbers which have become debt insanities, which threaten to provoke death insanities. The ruling classes are carrying through their agenda by having done 9/11 in order to start more genocidal wars, as well as prepare to impose democidal martial law. Meanwhile, in my opinion, there is practically no publicly significant opposition to that which is not controlled, because there is practically nobody who can think in sufficiently different ways, and even less are there enough people who can be communicated with so that they too will think in sufficiently different ways.

Instead, the Grand Canyon Chasms between progress in physical science, without progress in political science, continue to get wider and wider, as demonstrated by the degree to which the official story regarding 9/11 continues to dominate the political landscape, despite being physically impossible. Of course, one can comprehend that, inasmuch as recognizing that the official story about 9/11 is absurd bullshit then forces one to follow through to recognize that the entire political economy is also based on absurd bullshit, because that economy is based upon governments ENFORCING FRAUDS by privately controlled banks.

... SO FAR, AROUND AND AROUND AND AROUND WE GO, STUCK IN THE DEEPENING RUTS OF CIVILIZATION CONTROLLED BY HUGE LIES BECOMING MORE AND MORE PSYCHOTICALLY INSANE, WITH NO END IN SIGHT OF HOW MUCH WORSE THAT IS GOING TO GET!

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:30 | 6535777 LawsofPhysics
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If the TSA agent is good looking, I always op-out...  ...just saying...

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 11:06 | 6535991 FireBrander
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The "good looking" TSA agent is always running the desk...unless you find your Grandma, or 300lb landwhales, attractive, there are no "good looking" TSA ball fondlers...

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 12:01 | 6536262 Joe A
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You should always opt-out. Better to have your balls touched then to have your body radiated.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 12:01 | 6536265 Joe A
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Good for you for always taking the opt-out option.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 12:48 | 6536499 Zé Cacetudo
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By far the easiest way to avoid that bullshit: tell them that you can't raise your arms above your head due to an injury. All of a sudden, the metal detector opens up and you go through that with a hand swab.

If they ask why, which they usually won't, tell them it's an old sports injury (if you feel like sharing) or that it's none of their business and your medical conditions are private information under HIPAA (if you don't).

Works every time.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:07 | 6535629 snodgrass
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Live broadcast today and tomorrow on 911 lies told by the govt. and media.

https://rethinkseptember11.wordpress.com/

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:46 | 6535867 Chief Wonder Bread
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HH

your link whatreallyhappened.com contains a lot of footnote references but there are no footnotes.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 11:58 | 6536253 hedgeless_horseman
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The numbers are hyperlinked, so you just click on them, and your web browser will open the reference.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 13:05 | 6536571 Chief Wonder Bread
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okay.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 12:51 | 6536514 Bloppy
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Boston Globe: Weren’t near 9-11? Then why are you posting about it?

http://tinyurl.com/pvgsjo2

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:16 | 6535369 VinceFostersGhost
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PULL IT!!!

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:16 | 6535375 Never One Roach
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Saudi Arabia has reportedly responded to the growing number of people fleeing the Middle East for western Europe - by offering to build 200 mosques in Germany. (http://ind.pn/1igDtwz)

 

Mighty thoughtful of them Saudis.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:23 | 6535408 Oldwood
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Simply spreading the religion of peace, wahabi style.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:35 | 6535453 Son of Loki
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Soon all Deutschers will be required to convert or have their heads handed to them. If their rulers, the new Caliphate of Deutschalnd is kind to them, they will be given an option to leave Germany and go to a Chrisitan nation. Otherwise, it's kaputen mit seine kopf!

 

Every good Deutscher will also be required to visit Mecca at least every ten years to prove his loyalty.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:46 | 6535526 Thick Willy
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Germany is just an example to the rest of the world of what happens when you oppose the tribe.  First you get flattened.  Then millions of men are exterminated in concentration camps.  Then all your women are raped and impregnated with foreign seed to destroy your gene pool.  Then your nation is overrun with barbarians.  Then your culture is destroyed utterly.  Then you are wiped from the face of the Earth.

50 years from now there won't be a country on Earth named Deutschland or Germany.  100 years to genocide all German people and German culture.  Impressive.  Rome and the French never came close to pulling this off.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:16 | 6535374 Budnacho
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As far as I'm concerned the Patriot Act was the smoking gun proof of the conspiracy behind it all. NO legislation gets written that quickly....

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:18 | 6535386 MFL8240
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Precisley!

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:43 | 6535503 Urban Roman
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.. and the knowledge that the real government is not elected and does not care.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:54 | 6535559 Dame Ednas Possum
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All they needed was 'a new Pearl Harbour'...

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:25 | 6535417 Element
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They even wrote a song about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsztkpksdo

 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:33 | 6535462 philosophers bone
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Bud, there are so many smoking guns when it comes to 9/11 which all can see and thankfully most are caught on video.

You start with the no-brainer:  WTC 7, then you go from there.

Once you get WTC 7 falling by controlled demolition, then very easily you get to the Twin Towers falling that way as well.  Although the evidence is very clear that the Twin Towers fell by controlled demolition, people in their minds may make a distinction between the Twin Towers and WTC 7 because the Towers were "hit" by the "commercial airplanes",  That is why WTC 7 is so critical.  When combined with the multiple video evidence of first responders with respect to explosions going off in the buildings, I do not see how any reasonable open minded person could believe otherwise. 

Then there is Shanksville.  Very clearly there is no plane based on the pictures and particularly when factoring in the first people and reporters who arrived at the scene who said there was no evidence of a plane crash, no bodies, nothing, although there was a "hole" in the ground. 

Then there is the Pentagon, the most protected airspace in the world, which wsa "hit" by a "commercial aircraft", although the CNN reporter on the scene when first reporting said "there is nothing that would indicate that a plane hit the Pentagon".

Then there is everything else:  The mock hijacking drills scheduled that day; Cheney and Pinetta's inconsistent stories about what went on that day; Donald Rumsfeld on the Pentagon lawn being videoed assisting with a victim when he was the only one with authority to give certain orders to the military and they couldn't get a hold of him.  I am forgetting a ton of stuff. 

The "Official Story" of 9/11 requires one to believe so many individually improbable (and in the case of the falling bulildings, impossible) things, any one of which is difficult.  But when they are all combined together, the "Official Story" is clearly not the best explanation of what occurred that day.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:40 | 6535493 Budnacho
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Agreed!....My favorite little piece of Info was also the missing 2-Trillion mentioned the day before by Rummy....and wouldn't you know it?...the "plane" that hit the Pentagon hit the exact room where all the officials responsible for the $$ being lost were meeting that day. 

I'm telling you those terrorists sure knew exactly where to hit....such skill!

/irony

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:55 | 6535563 Bunghole
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Dont forget the missing gold from WTC4 or that Cantor Fitgerald in WTC1 held the notes on the missing 2 trillion.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:01 | 6535591 mvsjcl
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Obviously, you didn't hear the "Harley-Davidson Man" clearly explain what happened that day.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 11:48 | 6536207 Max Cynical
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There's so much more CONVINCING evidence to highlight re 9/11 than laymen showing up and proclaiming they don't see any aircraft parts.

Do you have any idea what happens when a plane hits an object at 500 mph?

"F4 Phantom Jet Hits Concrete Wall at 500 MPH"

https://youtu.be/RZjhxuhTmGk

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 12:31 | 6536420 moneybots
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"Once you get WTC 7 falling by controlled demolition, then very easily you get to the Twin Towers falling that way as well.  Although the evidence is very clear that the Twin Towers fell by controlled demolition..."

 

The evidence is clear that the buildings collapsed due to out of control fires.  No building that was not on fire, collapsed.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:17 | 6535379 philosophers bone
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"Pull it!!.... The Champagne cork, I mean!!  Happy Anniversary!!"

- Larry Silverstein

 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:29 | 6535441 auntiesocial
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9/11 - cui bono. follow the money. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl2biXvyGCs

 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:17 | 6535382 Id fight Gandhi
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Serious question. What was the real reason for the smaller buildings around the twin towers like 7, to fall?

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:19 | 6535390 chunga
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The first rule about building 7 club is you do not talk about building 7 club.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:43 | 6535506 redd_green
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Got that right.  And who the hell would downvote your comment.  Heh.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:47 | 6535529 Bioscale
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Marla

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:23 | 6535402 VinceFostersGhost
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It take week or months to bring down a building like that. You have to cut load baring members....set charges.

 

You tell me what happened.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:28 | 6535432 Crash N. Burn
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"You tell me what happened."

 

 Here's one suggestion:

9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate
Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:30 | 6535447 VinceFostersGhost
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I'd feel pretty damn nervous about working in a building if I thought the fire department could just bring it down with a push of a button. That's why most buildings are constructed sans the demolition charges.

 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:16 | 6535693 Dame Ednas Possum
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I'm not a controlled demolition expert...but, I am a professionally chartered civil engineer with 9 years of tertiary, vocational education and over 20 years experience designing, constructing, maintaining and renewing civil structures and infrastructure.

There is no doubt that WTC 1, 2 and 7 were brought down by controlled demolition. Any one who attempts to tell you otherwise just insulted you.

Further, there is no doubt that the Pentagon was NOT hit by a 757 (a Tomahawk missile more like it).

As for Shankesville...there was no plane debris, let alone blood (according to the coroner at the scene).

It still stuns me that any adult would still regurgitate the official story.

Churchill said: 'the best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter.'

Unfortunately the large majority of the human species are quite simply stupid.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 11:03 | 6535974 Slomotrainwreck
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Unfortunately the large majority of the human species are quite simply stupid.

 

Understatement.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:44 | 6535517 redd_green
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Yep. Cole is frickin brilliant.    Not only did he figure it all out years ago, but he put his experiments up on the web so that an idiot could follow.  Too bad no one in congress is up to that level yet.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:00 | 6535592 Urban Roman
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Horse shit. Military demolitions take place overnight. The key is not to care about flying glass and debris.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:18 | 6535698 VinceFostersGhost
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You don't bring a building straight down without cutting the load bearing members....there are companies that specialize in it.

 

You can blow up a building but bringing one down on itself is an art that takes careful planning.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:33 | 6535759 centerline
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That is not entirely accurate.  Progressive collapse mechanism can in fact operate in the manner we saw.  These large structures are in fact very weak at any individual connection or member.  It is the sum of the parts that creates a strong enough frame.  With enough damage and falling mass, it is possible to have a "pancake" sort of collapse.

Again, a bunch of people on websites pretending to be engineers and demolition experts is a waste of energy.  It gets people debating the physics of the crime instead of the "who."  The American people, instead of demanding answers about "who", are divided in the lesser details.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:44 | 6535856 VinceFostersGhost
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OK...now tell the class what PULL IT.....is in reference too.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 11:00 | 6535964 centerline
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That is WTC 7.  I should have at least made a distinction in my statement that I was referring to WTC 1 and 2.

 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 11:24 | 6536081 VinceFostersGhost
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So you think that WT7 was rigged to demo.....and then 911 just happened?

 

How's your logic working for you this morning?

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 11:37 | 6536153 centerline
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How did you even arrive that?  lol.  I know it's Friday but perhaps the drinking ought to start a little later in the day.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:58 | 6535940 Urban Roman
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You can blow up a building but bringing one down on itself is an art that takes careful planning.

So riddle me this: why did the buildings come down into their own basements from random structural damage and/or diesel fires? When no other building fire at no other time has accomplished such a precision collapse?

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 12:49 | 6536505 Oldwood
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Because demolition companies want it to appear much more difficult and complex than it really is to justify their high rates???

I mean if this is all a conspiracy, why not??

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:20 | 6535719 optimator
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Flight 93 hit it.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:55 | 6535565 Budnacho
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According to NIST, the reason for collapse was that Building 7 was sad that it's 2-larger building friends had fallen and in a fit of depression it killed itself. 

 

/sarcasm

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 11:51 | 6536221 Joe A
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It housed some offices of the Secret Service, DoD and the CIA. To some this was the reason why WTC7 went down.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 12:33 | 6536429 moneybots
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"Serious question. What was the real reason for the smaller buildings around the twin towers like 7, to fall?"

Serious answer: fire.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 13:33 | 6536704 Agstacker
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If by 'fire' you mean 'controlled demolition fire' then you are correct.  If by 'fire' you mean a regular house or building fire you are a moron.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:23 | 6535383 Mercury
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In 10 years it won't really be acceptable to observe 9/11 any more than 12/7. But we'll still have The Patriot Act and everything it spawned.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:26 | 6535418 Id fight Gandhi
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Isn't today now called patriot day?

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:18 | 6535384 Dr. Engali
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Funny how quick they rolled that Patriot act out. It's almost as if they had it planned or something......

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:20 | 6535397 Bunghole
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Uncle Joe Biden had it drafted months before.

 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:48 | 6535535 redd_green
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Months before?  No way, YEARS before.  Read up on The Project For The New American Centiury group.  It was formed by all the known culprits.  

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:00 | 6535578 Dame Ednas Possum
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Google: Wolfowitz Doctrine.

Note: I may have misspelled the sociopathic piece of shit's name...not that I care.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:21 | 6535400 Oldwood
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There is never enough time or resources to prevent disaster, but always plenty of time to prepare to respond to it. A crisis is and always has been to valuable to waste. People are lined up and waiting for the opportunity, only some lack the patience to wait....

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 13:35 | 6536708 Agstacker
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And remember the politicians who didn't read it but voted for it because if they didn't they would look 'unpatriotic'?  We should start legistation that will eliminate all taxes and call it the 'Really good for America act'.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:19 | 6535387 Pairadimes
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Only when Americans choose to throw off their domestic oppressors and reassert individualism can these issues be addressed. This being the case, we will undoubtedly continue to accept our ignorant servitude in exchange for a few crumbs from the table and Monday Night Football. Same as it ever was.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:19 | 6535389 Chad_the_short_...
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Mossad did 911, DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:20 | 6535392 Government need...
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Those .gov fuckers put our nation on a course to violence with that 'Patriot' Act.  Since then, the tyranny has only grown thicker.  I'm being forced to watch the CNN re-recording of the 9/11 commentary.  I guess they want us all to feel fear so that in some way, the Patriot Act seems justified.  It isn't.  Will the supporters of the Patriot Act end up in the Conciergerie?  God, I hope so.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:28 | 6535437 Oldwood
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We were on that path for decades prior. Our politicians present us with false choices that direct us towards ever greater self destruction, be it immigration, trade policies, entitlements and especially foreign policy. Do we think this Euro immigration "crisis" was not anticipated? Any of what we face not FULLY anticipated and deliberately created for the simple fact that each crisis creates even greater opportunity for aggregation of power over the world's citizens? Either through intimidation through violence, dependency of financial duress, or inevitable corruption of any who try to survive and prosper. One and all put under their thumb by this unending series of policy "mistakes". All far to stupid to be stupidity.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:38 | 6535485 Government need...
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I especially love the 'illegals have the right to bear arms' farce here in the US.  The globally timed illegal swarm, plus the effort to ramp up gun violence in the US. . .  they are trying to force Americans to turn in their guns, too.  They can fool many to most Americans, but that last 30 million is going to be quite a challenge.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 18:36 | 6537925 Oldrepublic
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did you know that 25% of the population of Mexico now lives in the US

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:20 | 6535394 the6thBook
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Why wouldn't they do something today?  Then they wouldn't have to raise rates.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:21 | 6535398 Bob
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The best article, all in all, that I've seen yet on all this 9/11bullshit:

http://commondreams.org/views/2015/09/08/mantra-911-exceptional-pain-dis...

 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:21 | 6535399 q99x2
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This is the day the global regime of economic interlinking corporations and organizations took over the US military by having them stand down against the Saudis. Immediately after they took over Washington D.C. with the passing of the Patriot Act. Since that time the United States of America has been an occupied nation-state without a national government.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:30 | 6535436 Son of Loki
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The FBI knew the Saudis were responsible and went to interview them...but they ran to the plane ...  their buddy, Bush, told the FBI to stand down and let the Saudis leave. The FBI and CIA were both flabbergasted as their heads testified later before Congress. But it was all swept under the rug.

 

Just one moar reason it's hard for me to ever vote for any Bush again.

 

 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:40 | 6535491 Government need...
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HW fought for the US, Dubya fought against it.  The Bushes are as traitorous as the Clintons.  At least these two families demonstrate clearly how meaningless the 'R'/'D' construct is.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:26 | 6535752 CheapBastard
Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:22 | 6535406 Redfish
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you are a disllusioned fool......can i buy you a one-way ticket back to Canada?

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:22 | 6535734 Dame Ednas Possum
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You can't spell...although you happily label others 'fool'.

You're an amusing little fellow.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:23 | 6535412 Redfish
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you are a disillusioned fool.....can i buy you a one-way ticket back to Canada?

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:25 | 6535751 Dame Ednas Possum
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You still can't spell...and your repetition acts to reinforce others' perception of your increasingly obvious ignorance.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:24 | 6535413 LawsofPhysics
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Remind me, how many steel frame buidling have collapsed into their own footprint due to an office fire again?

Remember, the perps in the case were in fact Saudi.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:24 | 6535416 Infinite QE
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Dr. Judy Wood's Where Did the Towers Go. All else is noise.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:04 | 6535611 snodgrass
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Wood is a fraud. She's never provided any scientific evidence for her theory. On the other hand, there is a peer reviewed paper on the evidence of nanothermite in the towers.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:41 | 6535845 SweetDoug
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You're categorically incorrect.

 

Watch her video. She provides volumes of evidence, scientific evidence.

 

Nothing more can be said to you.

 

•?•
V-V

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 20:54 | 6538255 Infinite QE
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Precisely. The whole thermite thing is the misdirect as the architects for 9/11 truth was most likely created by the perps.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:16 | 6535696 mvsjcl
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Dis-info crap. Let's stick to the known, scientifically proven facts please, and avoid baseless speculation.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:38 | 6535823 SweetDoug
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'

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Hunerd pacent.

Where Did the Towers Go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vadSaWyiozg

Required viewing for all those who watched the towers go down and asked themselves, "Where's the rubble? How did it 'fall' so fast?"

 

•?•
V-V

 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:25 | 6535421 Herdee
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Why don't they ever show the demolition of the third building where the CIA had offices and somehow nobody was there that day?

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:38 | 6535482 Billy Sol Estes
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Quite a few government offices in WTC 7, shame for them to be demoed.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/donald-rumsfeld-demolition-wtc-7....

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:26 | 6535424 Infinite QE
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Someone needs to do a documentary on where the dancing israelis are now. China perhaps?

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:26 | 6535426 djsmps
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No MSM coverage of 9/11, other than the live broadcasts on every MSM channel from the site, and the coverage at my local midwest station, and the streaming coverage on every MSM website.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:41 | 6535495 Government need...
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the agenda involves refreshing the tree of fear, so that they can steal more American freedoms.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:27 | 6535428 Dr. Engali
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“Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”

 

~Benjamin Franklin

 

 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 13:14 | 6536610 Barnaby
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He was saying that whilst unwrapping a girl from her pantaloons. TMYK

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 14:09 | 6536872 Utah_Get_Me_2
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Nobody's perfect.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 15:19 | 6537218 fallout11
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"So this is how liberty dies.....with thunderous applause." - Senator Amidala
 www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp069Y_P-9M

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:29 | 6535444 aliki
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R.I.P. to my cousin who was lost on 9-11

you are missed everyday

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:29 | 6535766 Dame Ednas Possum
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Who do you hold accountable for your cousin's murder?

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:30 | 6535446 autofixer
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In a perverse way I can say at least the loss of freedom was debated and passed in a Constitutional way, unlike imperial dictates today.  

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:42 | 6535498 Government need...
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That the new, improved tyranny @ work.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:31 | 6535452 taketheredpill
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Also the Florida mossad team that was living blocks fromone of the teams and observing them taking flying lessons.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:34 | 6535804 Ms No
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That's true.  This is where people get confused, the Mossad, the CIA and the Saudis were all involved.  Or at least the supposed hi jackers were Saudi Arabian,  then of course we found out most of them were still alive and had nothing to do with the attack.  The Mossad and CIA were definitely involved.  It was a ZioCon operation.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:33 | 6535464 mastersnark
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Remember, remember,

The 11th of September,

The thermite and demo and plot,

I know of no reason,

The thermite and treason,

Should ever be forgot.

[from twitter @militialaw]

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:17 | 6535474 WillyGroper
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Approriate for today courtesy SGT...Gelatin...don't know how she found it, but it's the smoking gun.  Jizzraylee art students placing the xPlosievs.  Goin straight to Cheney.

http://www.methodicaldeception.com/resource2.html

https://youtu.be/qdP95oSoOFk
Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:36 | 6535475 AlfredNeumann
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Israelis are celebrating the total takeover of the USA govt today

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:36 | 6535476 Billy Sol Estes
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RIP Securities Exchance Commission offices in WTC 7

:(.......

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:41 | 6535479 Werekoala
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Not sure why this bugs me, but NOBODY ever spells it right. the USA PATRIOT Act is an backronym. Maybe nobody remembers, maybe nobody cares - it's an abomination, regardless, but I think by "normalizing" it, people forget that it's more than just two words. From the ever-reliable Wikipedia:

"The USA PATRIOT Act is an Act of Congress that was signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 26, 2001. Its title is a ten-letter backronym (USA PATRIOT) that stands for "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001"."

So, essentially, Top People chose words that could be strung together to make a catchy, memorable, unassailable "name" (what, you're not a patriot?!) for a piece of legislation passed just over a month from the worst tourist attack in U.S. history. Really - they burned the midnight oil and ate god knows how many pizzas working on that. JUST THAT.

Think about it, won't you?

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 13:02 | 6536559 L Bean
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The MIC does love their acronyms. Huge red flag right there in fact.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:40 | 6535492 AntiFabian
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14 years since 9/11, yet financially as a nation we're actually worse. Lowest labor force participation rate, even 1977. Fed has gone off the reservation and purchased over 4 Trillion in USTs and MBS. Fed has kept rates at near zero for over six years, yet they tell us everything doing good financially speaking, look at the S&P! Greatest national debt (exponential increases in seven years). Yet more debt coming soon thanks to the Dem and Republican collusion keep us on the road to bankruptcy with yet another further debt limit increase.  Both parties continue to vote themselves money with gov’t spending and inside trading on the fruits of their cronyism.  After all, that is what the Iran deal is all about.  Make no mistake, both party's leadership want it just as bad as this president.  Why, so they can get their cut of the ill-gotten trade deals that will come as a result of the 150,000,000,000 in Iranian blood money that will be allowed to be spent by Iran.   Spent on what you might ask, I am sure it won’t be to buy any more IEDs to kill and maim US soldiers and innocent Iraqis, no they did enough of that.  Will it be to buy thousands more rockets to sneak into Gaza to fire into Israel, no they are past all that and have moved onto bigger and better things thanks to Obama the dutiful son of Islam and his lackeys on both sides of the isle. 
Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:59 | 6535583 Pliskin
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'150,000,000,000 in Iranian blood money that will be allowed to be spent by Iran.'

It's money that rightfully belongs to Iran so they can spend it on whatever the hell they like, just like those cunty-fucks in U.S.gov spend billions on whatever they like.

' buy any more IEDs to kill and maim US soldiers'

Proof?  Are those all the IEDs that Iran has put in NY, Chicago, DC?  Oh you mean the IEDs that are in a country thousands of miles from the U.S. where the U.S. troops shouldn't even fucking be.  You attack my house and come into my garden I'll shoe a fucking IED up your arse aswell.

'and innocent Iraqis'

How many innocent Iraqis have the U.S. killed, around 750,000 isn't it?  Men, women and children...what did straddlin madeline say.."It was worth it."  Dirty fucking U.S. bitch.

'thousands more rockets to sneak into Gaza to fire into Israel'

Again, proof?  Thousands of rockets, really?  Don't talk shit, how many tonnes of bombs did Israel drop on Gaza last year?  Indiscriminatly killing men, women, kids, aid workers, U.N. staff, Red Cross staff.  Snipers blowing kids heads off for fun.  Dirty filthy fucking Israeli pieces of shit, death to each and every single fucking one of them.

Go fuck yourself.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:11 | 6535659 AntiFabian
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If forgive you but unlike too many of my Christian brothers and sisters I do not suffer those aligned with evil well, especially the violent types which you appear to be aligned with like ISIS and those who run Iran.  I pray that before your death you will awaken to the true purpose you were put on Earth for you have strayed so far from the service of others and the protection of the innocent.

"As true Templars, we must always be prepared for battle in either the temporal or spiritual realms. Our oaths require moral courage and our way of life demands dedication to our knightly ideals. The true knight is, of course, humble before the Lord and his fellow man. If a true Templar would boast about anything, he boasts in our Lord!"

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:41 | 6535839 Pliskin
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The Iranians are fighting ISIS, unlike the U.S. who are supplying them with arms, funds and cheesecake.

And you know absolutely nothing of my character, but choose to pre-judge me as a violent type.  I'm not a Christian, I'm an Atheist, but I'd fight for your right to believe in anything you want, that's our own individual choices as human beings.

I've read the Bible, Old testament and new, and from what I can tell your God is a nasty piece of work, vindictive, spiteful, homophobic, rascist freak.  Point in case, the story of Noah, what, God was angry at man so he decided to send a flood to kill everyone ('Cept Noah and his family) including ALL the animals ("cept two of every species)  What a fuckin jack-off, what did the squirrels ever do?

Nah, I'm just not buyin' it.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 11:45 | 6536192 Dame Ednas Possum
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More power to you.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 13:03 | 6536562 L Bean
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Turn off your tv, Ziotard. 

 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 12:01 | 6535499 Youri Carma
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9/11 BOMBSHELL: METHODICAL DECEPTION — Rebekah Roth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdP95oSoOFk

Study Shows 'Conspiracy Theory' Insult Losing Power https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pob0vmb4pBQ

2015 NEW Loose Change 3rd Edition! MUST SEE! 9/11 Truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsRm8M-qOjQ

Mystery Solved: The WTC Was Nuked on 9/11 http://donaldfox.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/mystery-solved-the-wtc-was-nuk...

Some interesting 911 Pictures nowhere else to be found: Slideshow: http://smg.photobucket.com/user/youricarma/slideshow/NineOneOne

You can clearly see the pyroclastic flow (A mix of hot gasses and dust) on these pictures which only can occur in two types of situations Volcano’s and Explosions.

9/11 Shanksville Eyewitness Susan McElwain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gliHOhXYFQ

The Death of Controlled Demolition Expert Danny Jowenko after Speaking about 9/11 WTC 7 Building 7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zHHvo6U4lA

911 - Cheney gave STAND DOWN ORDER https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlM8Sui6-X0

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 02:04 | 6537895 Radical Marijuana
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Thanks for your links, Youri Carma,

I watched dozen documentaries

about 9/11.

But, all too ironically, your YouTube video
apparently has a false and misleading title?

2015 NEW Loose Change 3rd Edition! MUST SEE! 9/11 Truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsRm8M-qOjQ

That seems to be a 2012 posting of

the second edition of Loose Change.

I do not believe that will be ever be possible to discover exactly what happened, there is no doubt it must have been some kind of controlled demolition. That means it must have been an inside job, false flag attack, from which conclusion follows the other comments that I have already posted under this article.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 07:36 | 6539088 SixIsNinE
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the author of the above mentioned book, Rebekah Roth, has been doing weekly podcasts on TFR   truthfrequencyradio.com

She was an airline flight attendant, decades of work in that capacity and was working in that during 9/11.

Her second book, Methodical Deception is the followup (to Methodical Illusion)_ is out now and she was scheduled to interview with john wells on his Caravan to Midnight show on 11 Sep 2015.   Highly recommend the $6 a month for TFR membership for full downloads, they've got a lot of great radio shows. 

I'll also repost a link from another posters comment for LIVE coverage on 11 & 12 September 2015 (today) -

https://rethinkseptember11.wordpress.com/

here's the schedule :

Schedule for Friday, September 11th, 2015
6:00 pm Toronto / 3:00 pm California / 11:00 pm UK / 3:00 am India – Introduction by Bev Collins
6:05 pm Toronto / 3:05 pm California / 12:05 AM Switzerland – Dr. Daniele Ganser (Switzerland):  “What is the strategy of tension?”
6:45 pm Toronto / 3:45 pm California – Dr. Anthony Hall: “9/11 Truth to 9/11 Reality”
7:25 pm Toronto / 4:45 pm California – Barrie Zwicker: “Real Politik: Next Month’s Canadian Federal Election & 9/11”
8:05 pm Toronto / 5:25 pm California – Dr. Graeme MacQueen: “The War on Terror and the Intimidation of Legislatures in Canada and the U.S.”
8:45 pm Toronto / 6:05 pm California – Graeme MacQueen, Anthony Hall, & Barrie Zwicker Group Dialogue
9:25 pm Toronto / 6:45 pm California – Closing remarks by Bev Collins

Schedule for Saturday, September 12th, 2015
Part 1
11 am Toronto / 8 am California / 5 pm UK / 8 pm India – Introduction by Bev Collins
11:05 am Toronto / 8:05 am California – 12:05 am Japan – James Corbett: “The Financial Aspects and Cover-up of 9/11”
11:45 am Toronto / 8:45 am California  – Kevin Ryan: “The Importance of the 9/11 Myth to Solving the 9/11 Crimes”
Part 2
4:00 pm Toronto / 1:00 pm California  – Introduction by Bev Collins
4:05 pm Toronto / 1:05 pm California   – Elizabeth Woodworth: “The 9/11 Consensus Panel” [Note: Cynthia McKinney wished to attend but there were schedule conflicts – we hope for your understanding]
4:45 pm Toronto / 1:45 pm California   – Professor David Johnson: “The Vision for the 15th Anniversary of 9/11”
5:25 pm Toronto / 2:25 pm California   – Closing remarks by Bev Collins

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:45 | 6535500 Spiritof42
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9/11, a date Americans will not forget because it happened only once before.

But if you are a victim of American warfare, life is just another day of violence and bloodshed.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 21:32 | 6538389 SofaPapa
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+1000

Great point!  Violence and destruction is hardly unusual among those who 'lead' the US.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:43 | 6535507 Tsar Pointless
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After 14 years I still can't figure out how people thonk a plane hit the Pentagon.

And this:

https://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2010/10/26/trade-center-cameras-lo...

I remember and understand 911.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:47 | 6535530 optimator
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Of course a plane hit the Pentagon, and Flt. 93 hit WTC 7......or should have, so lets just pretend it did.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 12:38 | 6536455 moneybots
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"Of course a plane hit the Pentagon, and Flt. 93 hit WTC 7......or should have, so lets just pretend it did."

 

I see you are pretending. 

 

Witnesses saw a jetliner strike the Pentagon.

Debris from a collapsing One World Trade did strike Seven World Trade, so it moots any point that a jetliner should have struck it.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 14:12 | 6536886 Utah_Get_Me_2
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at least you admit you're a BOT.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:43 | 6535508 Wahooo
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Saudi Arabia must be destroyed, its King beheaded, its princes hung.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:27 | 6535512 Seal
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Accept it! We had a good run at democracy - a federated republic - and now its OVER. Human nature can't handle the freedom. EVERYONE wants to beat the pinyata for their own goodies and this is what's left - a corpse bleeding Social Security checks, Socialized medicine taxes, "disability checks, " unemployment" checks. Even Schumpeter, I think, signed up for Social Security.

 

WHATEVER

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:52 | 6535903 rejected
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5 trillion tax payer dollars stolen from SS fund to wage wars and fund welfare programs.

So, who's the thief?  The MIC and the FSA maybe?

And what's democracy got to do with it,,, there's never been a democracy that wasn't socialist. Democracy is the very essence of socialism.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:44 | 6535513 Pliskin
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The best article I've read on the whole 9/11 debacle, make of it what you will...

http://www.lostscribemedia.com/news/911-israels-masterpiece/

 

R.I.P to all those men and women that died that day, we can only hope that one day you will ALL get the justice you so rightly deserve.

:(

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:44 | 6535515 AlfredNeumann
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I am still trying to source the material used to make the pristine passport found in the rubble.

I want to build a car with it.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:44 | 6535516 AlfredNeumann
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I am still trying to source the material used to make the pristine passport found in the rubble.

I want to build a car with it.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:49 | 6535539 Government need...
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That passport must've been planted like a tomato vine on May 1st.  The NYPD is expert at planting shit, so I dont even know if the CIA had to be involved.  

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 13:05 | 6536570 L Bean
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The NYPD (and every other significant police force) has its own CIA handlers.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:44 | 6535519 Heyoka
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Im not even circumcised but you blame the Jews mother fuckers should all go suck a pig's cock.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:46 | 6535523 AlfredNeumann
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Why do you like pig cocks??

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:48 | 6535534 AlfredNeumann
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According to retards like you Arabs are shitheads.  So they could never have pulled of 911 ..  

And what would their motive be?  

I guess you washed out of DETECTIVE SCHOOL also.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 09:52 | 6535533 maxwellsdemon
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(This is a repeat of a post, but the evidence that the WTC 1 and 2 cement cores were blown outward and did not gravity collapse is overwhelming.  No way a 1200 foot tall mast of reinforced concrete extending down to the bedrock, can fall and the height of the rubble from it's collapse be no higher than street level.)

Anyone, if they care to look, can see that the towers were felled by explosions. Here's how:

The crater shaped rubble pile of WTC 1 and 2 is impossible to explain thermodynamically by a gravity collapse or structural failure scenario.  In fact,  the presence of a crater shaped rubble pile necessarily and sufficiently proves that explosive charges were set off deep within WTC 1 and 2 resulting in most of the building's structure being thrown laterally outward.  The close spacing of the explosives charges on each floor, separated by air gaps, created shockwaves that pulverized most of the concrete in midair- see page 266 of this reference:

https://books.google.com/books?id=YcUBwgOhoskC&pg=PA266&lpg=PA266&dq=explosive+shockwaves+of+multiple+charges&source=bl&ots=WmEjdKEqcn&sig=n0cV19bPn1v4Vaj4gBowPbXaw6o&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CEAQ6AEwCWoVChMIqcm21--ixwIVxSUeCh2SZgxY#v=onepage&q=explosive%20shockwaves%20of%20multiple%20charges&f=false

 

You can see the mid air pulverization of concrete in this video of the collapse of WTC 1; at around 48 seconds into it, you can see that the remant of the steel reinforced concrete core or 'mast', about 20 feet in width (the left edge is partly obscured by some trees) stripped of it's concrete by explosive charges, stands briefly, then falls over:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYzIja6mlRs

 

Although the WTC 1 and 2 tower blue prints have now been made 'classified', they were leaked out a few years ago, by somebody concerned that the NIST model of the buldings had purposefully left out the important center mast design element in each tower.   Each tower had a 15 by 20 foot rectangular mast made of reinforced concrete and extending 1200 feet up.  The mast was a novel design feature of the time, needed to dampen oscillations that would occur if just 1200 foot tall steel columns ran up the building.  Each mast contained more concrete that all the floors combined and was located dead center in the middle of the footprint of the buildings.  The Sears tower and other towers over 1000 feet have had to use the same mast design to dampen oscillations.  (The Empire state building had outer walls of concrete like masonry that function to dampen oscillations, but the WTC design put this stiffening element on the inside and made it a weight bearing structure as well, carrying 20% of the weight)

http://911review.org/WTC/concrete-core.html

Now look at 1:17 into this video; you can see that the height of the rubble pile at the center of the footprint is only at street level !!!  (one solitary vertical steel flag pole structure sticks up from the center) 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPJUP-Ry7d0#t=29

 

The shape of the WTC 1 rubble pile is crater like, as if a mammoth charge of dynamite blew the building out along it's vertical axis.  A few scraggily walls bend backward, appearing as if they were blown back from explosive charges in the center of the towers, because they were.   The towers basement was only 60 feet deep.  Normally there should be a "hill shaped" pile of rubble following a pancake collapse due to structural failure, and the center of the rubble pile should be about 100 feet above street level, 1 foot per floor.  However the shape of the WTC rubble pile is crater like, or 'bowl like', and impossible thermodynamically to occur from the collapse of the tower.   The mammoth weight of the 1200 foot tall concrete mast located dead center in the tower's footprint would have made certain that the rubble pile would be hill shaped and not crater shaped.

 

In contrast, WTC 7 was 640 feet tall and had a 40 foot deep basement, not proportionately different from the towers, yet it's rubble pile was hill shaped, as expected in a gravity collapse

Look at 43 seconds into this video to see how tall the WTC 7 pile is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2L_lu8ocLM

 

WTC 7 was demolitioned normally, probably because as it was not built over the 16 acre concrete bathtub that WTC 1 and 2 were built over, falling chunks would not endanger damaging the walls of the bathtub and letting the Hudson flow into the tunnels beneath lower Manhattan.   Also if the towers were allowed to gravity collapse by explosives placed to remove supports as in a normal demolition, the cleanup of the asbestos and debris would have shut down lower Manhattan for months.  So the perps of 911 thoroughly demollished WTC 1 and 2 on purpose, pulverizing them into mostly dust, by using many more explosives, separated by air gaps arragned to pulverize the concrete core and each floor, flinging material outward in a spherical shape, that spread out over a radius of 1 km.   A reporter asked Govenor Pataki the next day why there was so little rubble present where the had stood towers and his response was that it had turned to a 3 inch layer of dust from river to river. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcvvhVv-cAE

For those who think the government has never been in the WTC demolition business, the 1993 WTC bomb was made by the FBI's informant on the group, Emad Salem, using FBI supplied bomb parts.  He can be heard talking to his FBI handler about his concerns about the group being given a real bomb, a bomb that had just exploded in the WTC parking garage.  Pause at 5:48 into this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Y4Qaap6SM

 

The group had planned to park the van near the support columns of either WTC 1 or 2, but by 'serendipity', that day all the parking spots closest to the towers were occupied by government vehicles and they could only find an empty parking space in the middle of the parking garage, between the towers; of course an explosion there would result in the fewest casualties   The FBI pretended to solve the case by finding an axle in the rubble, when all along they were involved with the group for 2 years.  They let 2 of the group fly to Iraq the day after the bombing, probably to form a casus belli for war with Iraq in 1993.  Only when Salem gave his 600 or so audio tapes of his conversations with the FBI to the judge and defense attorneys in the case, did the whole false flag operation get burried.   Even Dan Rather reported on national TV that the FBI knew about the plot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXBmmf9F4rw

 

So who in the FBI was fired or demoted for letting a 1000 lb bomb, built by the FBI informant with FBI supplied parts, go off in the WTC parking garage, killing 6 people?   No one of course.

 

On this vidio, you can hear Salem talk to the FBI agent about the bomb, or go to 3:50 for the main point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M8QtYTplyk

 

This youtube video came out recently showing what may be an orange explosive material called semtex attached to the inside face of one of the few scraggily walls still standing after the towers collapsed.  The FBI men are looking right at it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUwmBsvrTQg

 

More proof that 911 was an Israeli false flag:

The Chesed Gomel incident:

http://911blogger.com/news/2007-04-04/follow-%E2%80%9Cprior-knowledge-911-attacks-overheard-hebrew%E2%80%9D-story-fbi-looks-documents-where-they-cannot-be-found

 

There's the Mexican incident 4 weeks after 911:

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/mex.html

 

There's this as well; flight 93 was headed for 5 minutes on a course towards NYC before it crashed; was it headed for WTC 7?  Look at the segment H to I from this wikipedia flight path:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93#/media/File:UA93_path.svg

 

No jet fuel contamination was seen in any soil sample from the flight 93 crash site, the first time this has happened in an airline crash site

 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:09 | 6535638 Bro of the Sorr...
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awesome post. thanks for all the links

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 10:45 | 6535860 rejected
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There are some that think a baby nuke was used.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 23:01 | 6538009 Radical Marijuana
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Since the physical evidence was summarily destroyed, and no proper investigations were ever allowed to happen, it is not practically impossible to ever be certain.

As the saying goes:

"It is easy to get away with crimes, if one can control the investigations afterwards."

There are always TWO layers of such events, the first is the level on which the events were made to happen, and the second is the level on which the investigation is controlled, while the official story is simultaneously promoted, as an adjunct to that cover-up.

The ways in which the physical evidence regarding the events were destroyed, rather than properly investigated, actually again proves that 9/11 must have been an inside job, false flag attack, since only the ruling classes could achieve that SECOND level of the cover-up of whatever actually happened.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 00:32 | 6541253 maxwellsdemon
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radical; I think you are wrong.  The crater shaped rubble pile is all the proof we need to show that explosives blew out the material of the towers and that no pile driving or pancake effect took place.   Any physicist would be able to back that up.  That's the beauty and simplicity of thermodynamics at work, by looking at the tower before it was destroyed and after it was destroyed.  If we had a photo of a hill shaped pile of rubble, the governments BS story couldn't be disproved.  But because the rubble is crater shaped, the goverernments version is PROVED to be total BS and what's more, it proves that RADIALLY SYMMETRIC EXPLOSIVES, PLACED ALONG THE VERTICAL AXIS OF THE TOWERS, WERE USED  

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 00:27 | 6541248 maxwellsdemon
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That's the type of detail that causes distraction and doubt.  Focus on the crater.    The Parkland doctors have now said that the JFK had an entry wound  just above the right eye, but for years they were warned by their chief to go along with the phony government autopsy.  Johnson had the SS draw guns on the docs who initially refused to let them take JFK's body away, before it could be autopsied in Dallas as the law demanded.  Johnson had to have the body on his plane and  fly out immediately so that the autopsy was under the CIA and his control.  Similarly the wtc rubble was carted away before any analysis could be made.  But the CRATER SHAPED RUBBLE PILE GIVE THE ENTIRE LIE AWAY ALL BY ITSELF!!!!

 

We have all the proof we need in the youtube video "9/11 towers of dust" by pausing at 1:17 into the video

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 11:16 | 6536036 Billy Sol Estes
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Aswesome, saving for later

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 12:12 | 6536321 Rusty Shorts
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Thanks maxwell!! Here's some amazing footage of ground zero just after the collapse of the WTC's, hole in the ground.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JfoGxD8g_U

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 01:35 | 6541213 maxwellsdemon
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Thanks Rusty.   The photos of ground zero are crime scene photos that tell what type of weapon was used to murder 3000 people that day.  The type of core isn't critical regarding proving that the towers were blown up.  What is critical is the presence of the crater shaped rubble pile.  I don't believe WTC 7 had a concrete core, yet it has a hill shaped rubble pile and so should have WTC 1 and 2; if they had a concrete core as opposed to a steel tube core, then obviously more explosive forces would have to be used to blow out this weight, but it wouldn't change the basic argument.    The crater shaped rubble pile of wtc 1, whose center is at ground level and whose edges go up about 30 to 50 feet, prove conclusively that powerful explosives were used to blow rubble out (over 100 concrete 4 inch floors, huge amounts of steel,...etc)  and away from the center of the building.

 

 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 12:40 | 6536465 moneybots
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"(This is a repeat of a post, but the evidence that the WTC 1 and 2 cement cores were blown outward and did not gravity collapse is overwhelming."

 

WTC1 and 2 did not have cement cores.

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