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Remembering 9/11: The Wolf In 'Patriot Act' Sheep's Clothing
Submitted by Thad Beversdorf via FirstRebuttal.com,
This is a piece I wrote last year for Ron Paul’s Voices of Liberty. Now although mainstream media has all but put a gag order on 9/11 memorial coverage, I believe this article’s message has never been more relevant and so I’m posting again at what is obviously poignant time. I find it odd that we have 10 Hollywood blockbusters made each year about the holocaust 75 years on, but only 14 years after the event American media will no longer discuss 9/11, even upon the anniversary. It is perhaps the most telling phenomenon about the secretiveness and mystery surrounding the horrific tragedy.
It was the sixth week of my first job fresh out of college. I was still eagerly excited for each new day. Having moved stateside from a small town in Canada to finish up university and then on to the big city of Chicago, I was still in awe of America. I was working in the north building of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange on the corner of Madison and Wacker. It was early morning and I was on the phone with Paul Salvio from our New York office when...
...the phone went dead.
The day was September 11, 2001. Our New York office was on the 92nd floor of the World Trade Center Tower 1. None of the employees who had arrived to work that day survived. It is a moment that elicits strong emotions within me to this day and I know I’m not alone.
In the days and weeks that followed, while the world came together to mourn those lost and to condemn those responsible, our policymakers in Washington were working feverishly to find opportunity in this tragedy. Forty-five days after 9/11, President Bush signed into law the U.S. Patriot Act.
The implication of the ironically titled bill is well described by a report published in March 2009 by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). The report, called “Reclaiming Patriotism,” suggests that the Patriot Act “fundamentally altered the relationship Americans share with their Government.”
Politicians took advantage of a moment of extreme duress for the American people to push through a bill that not only breached the spirit of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights but also directly contradicts the rights guaranteed under the 1st and 4th Amendments. The Patriot Act gave powers to the executive branch of our government it was never meant to have. Such restriction of powers was mandated by the founding fathers through the legal framework of which this nation is governed; a legal framework of which each legislator is sworn to uphold upon taking office.
The ACLU’s 2009 report provides an interesting and unintended perspective on the fundamental dangers of the Patriot Act because it was published prior to revelations made by National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden. Note the following excerpt from the ACLU 2009 report:
“Worse, it authorizes the government to engage in this expanded domestic spying in secret, with few, if any, protections built in to ensure these powers are not abused, and little opportunity for Congress to review whether the authorities it granted the government actually made Americans any safer.” ?
But such fears were repeatedly calmed by those who were handed the authority over and entrusted with such powers.
And so, we see, concerns about Patriot Act abuses at the time of the ACLU report were only hypothetical and thus easily and reassuringly refuted by those in charge of the surveillances being done under the authority of the Patriot Act.
And then Edward Snowden entered the room...
Snowden revealed that not only were the very abuses predicted by the ACLU taking place but they were part of a larger and well defined strategy that had been intentionally hidden from the American people.
Many of the surveillance programs revealed by Snowden are part of subsequent legislative bills that fall under the umbrella and authority of rights granted by the Patriot Act. In a sense it has become the “Pandora’s box” against the rights and freedoms of the American people. Since the Patriot Act opened the floodgates, we’ve had a steady stream of bills further expanding the (illegal) powers to those in charge.
The claims that these programs are unlawful are not simply laymen opinion. Several courts across the nation have heard various cases and determined that many aspects of the programs are in breach of the U.S. Constitution. ? Yet, no one has been prosecuted and the programs under the Patriot Act not only continue but are expanding.
History and common sense tell us that those in power will always attempt to beget more power. Several independent studies prove that these programs have very little impact on protecting Americans from terrorism while the Snowden leaks evidence the wide abuses taking place for political motivations. The Patriot Act has become the enemy it claims necessitates its existence. It is the most prolific form of terrorism against the American citizenry (and many of our allies) today.
The argument so often touted by beneficiaries of the Patriot Act is that trading freedom for safety is an acceptable trade. That argument is not only invalid it is unsound. Freedom and safety are not mutually exclusive and even if they were the slippery slope aspect of such way of thinking makes it a false proposition. If you haven’t done so, you must fully examine the Snowden revelations to comprehend the extent of the tyranny authorized and enacted by the Patriot Act and its subsidiary Acts.
Let me bring this to a sharp point for any who have yet to feel it—a terrible thing happened to this nation on 9/11 that none of us expected ever would. We felt vulnerable for maybe the first time within the borders of our nation, the strongest nation on this earth. It changed many of us in very profound ways. At that point, in that moment, all we wanted to feel is that it would and that it could never happen again. And so we entrusted our leaders to work together on implementing policies that would ensure our freedom be safe from those who want to take it from us.
The Patriot Act was sold to Americans as a shield to defend our freedom, that it was to ensure our rights as guaranteed by our constitution and the Bill of Rights would be safe from evildoers. However, the sad reality is that our leaders took our moment of need as an opportunity to further enhance the powers of the state over the power of the people. We know this now thanks to some incredibly brave and heroic Americans like Snowden who gave up their individual freedom to defend the freedom of a nation. It is on the rest of us now to stand up to the tyranny of those whose interests are narrow and selfish and whose lies and deceit represent the most monumental and immediate threat to our freedom.
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Many poeple are naive and just unwilling to believe the govt would kill its own citizens to furthur an agenda.
Here is a little reported FACT.
The US govt knew about Pearl Harbour attack coming up 5 days before it happened.
The message was ordered to be pigeonholed.
Why?
This is all available thru the FOIA.
Same with the Gulf of Tonkin incident which NEVER happened but yet was used to escalate the Vietam War in 1965 causing the deaths of 58,000 Americans.
Always wondered about Pearl Harbor. Seems unlikely that a fleet that size, sailing for almost two weeks all over the Pacific, wouldn't have been spotted and reported.
Truth is Roosevelt was looking for any excuse to get into the war (not a very popular notion at the time). How fortuitous for him that the Japanese gave him the excuse he needed.
As an interesting aside, Admiral Yamamoto was the only high ranking officer specifically targeted and assassinated by the enemy during WWII.
My inbox is deluged with remember bullshit from some of my suppliers (ammo, firearms, police equipment and such).
How can you remember what you never really knew about to begin with?
Remebering a lie, propagandizing the mythology of tyranny.
In July of 2001 the WTC was completely closed for a weekend for some 'security work'
My opinion is that is when they installed the charges near the columns .. (elevator shafts)
The whole thing was very well and brilliantly planned. not something ARABS could do.
The aircraft hits were merely a cover for the demolition of WTC1 and WTC2 and WTC 7 was later 'pulled/
Bush's brother was on the board of the security company. SAME company that handled teh Murrah building also coincidently ....
Plus, something like $1 billion in gold, silver and other precious metals was removed form the WTC4 basement three weeks before 911.
What incredible luck! Ha!
And luckily Larry Silverstein the owener , had both insured for a few bllions even against terrorist attacks
He was under the gun to have all asbestos removed costing millions.
Another ''coindidence'
Sir, how dare you impugn the intergrity of Lucky Larry!
(Slap! Slap! with a pair of white gloves)
Pistols at ten paces at dusk.
Hahaha!
"WTC 7 was demolitioned normally"
It wasn't demolitioned at all. Debris from a collapsing WTC1 struck WTC7, starting multiple fires, as debris struck multiple floors of the building.
NYFD did not want to risk losing any more fire fighters than they already had. The fires were left to burn out of control. Late in the afternoon, WTC7 collapsed.
A normal demolition takes hundreds of explosives and takes a long time to prepare. There are many videos of normal demolitions and the collapse of WTC7 looks like none of them.
No demo explosions were seen, which is common to a controlled demolition. Explosions are loud, which was another aspect missing in the collpase of WTC7.
The common element in the three buildings which collapsed, was fire.
Watch this video closely . interview with a professional demolitions expert who owned his own company doing demolitions world wide. He lived down the road from me.
3 weeks after that video his Mercedes ran into a tree coming home from church on a Sunday morning. very little traffic here on Sundays. He was kiilled instantly.
He stated they were abslutely controlled demolitions.
But then again, you must be an expert and know better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f4w8iJmn08
You are right.
Is this cat yanking our collective chains?
Why yes you are.
I am?
How's that, VW?
You're probably trolling, but:
World Trade Center on 9/11 - Sounds of Explosionshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A9X_8flGeM
Also,
Seismic Records of the Twin Towers' Destruction: Clarifying the Relationship Between Seismic Evidence and Controlled Demolition Theories
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/demolition/seismic.html
You people are beyond stupid. Thats ok, your time on earth is going to be short.
I know, I am 70. LOL
Go take your goddam threats and Buybull crap and shove it up your ass, Dumbo
At least we know Biden's first name isn't Jope.
controlled demo... the debris from the trade towers nor the fires had nothing to do with the collapse of building 7.
I logged in at work just to tell you that you're a fucking idiot
moneybots; do you know that the NIST commission modeled all the steel girders in WTC 1,2, and 7 as being 'thermally thin' ? That means they modeled steel as having zero thermal conductance!!! That means that a candle held up to a 12 inch thick steel girder could be modeled as being able to heat a a tiny part of the girder to 1000 C.
But steel conducts heat and thick girders conduct a lot of heat and there it is preposterous to model steel as having ZERO THERMAL CONDUCTANCE.
The QED proof the buildings were exploded comes from the crater shaped rubble pile; the center of the rubble pile is at ground level. The towers had huge contiguous reinforced concrete cores running up from the basement and on up, a distance of over 1300 feet yet the collapsed structure is a CRATER!!! Even without the massive center core, the collapsed structure should be hill shaped and about 100 feet taller than the sidewalk
pause at 1:17 into this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPJUP-Ry7d0
Har Har!! The government cover story is blown away
Barry Jennings in WTC 7 heard explosions in the building
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tr0TZa3WeI
The camera shakes filming WTC 7 seconds before the collapse is visible due to the explosions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIIF6P8zBG8
Fourteen years
Look whats happened since
09/11/2001
God rest in Peace
May God give US the
strenght
to know the truth and to
break the evil grip that
beholds our nation
Amen
03/11/11
this is not your fathers socialism
The number of lies uttered by Brian Williams in the Snowden interview shown above far exceeds any of the personal lies Williams told about his own past experiences. I guess lies are perfectly okay when they are written on the "news" script, but if you go off-script you are on your own. Shalom bitchez.
Question everything.
Start with yourself. Do you filter beliefs thru knowing or knowin thru your beliefs?
Basic logic proves the official story cannot be true.
Logic and reason and KNOWING are different than ''beliefs'.
Yep. As a person its a choice. Either beliefs rule or your knowing does.
I try and use logic and reasoning and experience.
Being a retired aviator some knowledge of physics. my knowledge goes against govt fairytales.
If I know by seeing that from my desk to the wall is 10 feet, thats called experience .
If someone tells me its 3 feet , I call them cuckoo.
If you research the information giving by the government on how this happened, you will come away with a very different story. Visit; 911 truth.org. Google: French website 'hunt the boeing'
It is called friendly cover fire, Sir. Over three thousand people had to be killed so that the President could sign the Patriot Act. This is how it has to be read. What's the justification??? In the end we are all terrorists. Every act of ours require use of terror... some appoved and some are not.
http://just-a-thought-from-thinair.blogspot.com/
This day was the beginning of the planned execution of strategies that are unfolding before our eyes and will continue to do so until ..... (fill in your blanks)
There were false flag attacks before. like Gulf of Tonkin incident which never happened. or JFK.
Actually as someone who was 17 years old when JFK was killed, and then Vietnam. etc etc etc. The USA has been one pack of lies and warmongering and bullying.
I always say the USA died on Nov.22, 1963.
other say it was in 1913 with the advent of the FED.
I agree with you my friend, pick any date you want.
It died in 1871, with the creation of the corporation 'of' the united states in the district of Columbia. The original constitution 'for the united states of ameria' became a new constitution 'of the united states of america'. The change from 'for' to 'of' was the critical moment when facism took over our government
http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/us_corporation.htm
[The date is February 21, 1871 and the Forty-First Congress is in session. I refer you to the "Acts of the Forty-First Congress," Section 34, Session III, chapters 61 and 62. On this date in the history of our nation, Congress passed an Act titled: "An Act To Provide A Government for the District of Columbia." This is also known as the "Act of 1871." What does this mean? Well, it means that Congress, under no constitutional authority to do so, created a separate form of government for the District of Columbia, which is a ten mile square parcel of land.
What??? How could they do that? Moreover, WHY would they do that? To explain, let's look at the circumstances of those days. The Act of 1871 was passed at a vulnerable time in America. Our nation was essentially bankrupt — weakened and financially depleted in the aftermath of the Civil War. The Civil War itself was nothing more than a calculated "front" for some pretty fancy footwork by corporate backroom players. It was a strategic maneuver by European interests (the international bankers) who were intent upon gaining a stranglehold on the neck (and the coffers) of America.
The Congress realized our country was in dire financial straits, so they cut a deal with the international bankers — (in those days, the Rothschilds of London were dipping their fingers into everyone's pie) thereby incurring a DEBT to said bankers. If we think about banks, we know they do not just lend us money out of the goodness of their hearts. A bank will not do anything for you unless it is entirely in their best interest to do so. There has to be some sort of collateral or some string attached which puts you and me (the borrower) into a subservient position. This was true back in 1871 as well. The conniving international bankers were not about to lend our floundering nation any money without some serious stipulations. So, they devised a brilliant way of getting their foot in the door of the United States (a prize they had coveted for some time, but had been unable to grasp thanks to our Founding Fathers, who despised them and held them in check), and thus, the Act of 1871 was passed.
In essence, this Act formed the corporation known as THE UNITED STATES. Note the capitalization, because it is important. This corporation, owned by foreign interests, moved right in and shoved the original "organic" version of the Constitution into a dusty corner. With the "Act of 1871," our Constitution was defaced in the sense that the title was block-capitalized and the word "for" was changed to the word "of" in the title. The original Constitution drafted by the Founding Fathers, was written in this manner:
"The Constitution for the united states of America".
The altered version reads: "THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA". It is the corporate constitution. It is NOT the same document you might think it is. The corporate constitution operates in an economic capacity and has been used to fool the People into thinking it is the same parchment that governs the Republic. It absolutely is not.
Capitalization — an insignificant change? Not when one is referring to the context of a legal document, it isn't. Such minor alterations have had major impacts on each subsequent generation born in this country. What the Congress did with the passage of the Act of 1871 was create an entirely new document, a constitution for the government of the District of Columbia. The kind of government THEY created was a corporation. The new, altered Constitution serves as the constitution of the corporation, and not that of America. Think about that for a moment.
Incidentally, this corporate constitution does not benefit the Republic. It serves only to benefit the corporation. It does nothing good for you or me — and it operates outside of the original Constitution. Instead of absolute rights guaranteed under the "organic" Constitution, we now have "relative" rights or privileges. One example of this is the Sovereign's right to travel, which has been transformed under corporate government policy into a "privilege" which we must be licensed to engage in. This operates outside of the original Constitution.
So, Congress committed TREASON against the People, who were considered Sovereign under the Declaration of Independence and the organic Constitution. When we consider the word "Sovereign," we must think about what the word means.
The truth about 911 will never be revealed. just like with JFK
What you can do as an individual is prepare for more govt lies
in my case, I just left the USA.
Look here. If you don't like the United States Of American, you can leave, buster!
There, I showed him. Uh oh, wait a minute... :)
It costs you 2400 bucks now to leave the USA. It cost me 400.... got in under the wire last year.
Go ahead, rub it in bub. But we'll look back in 10 years or so when the fee is $18,499 and we'll laugh about how much of a bargin $2350 was.
$400 to leave the USA?
What were you smuggled out by coyotes?
$400 buck to RENOUNCE.
Isn't that a little funny? 400 clams to leave?
"I'm totally done with Drama Club, Trevor, I'm going to pay them so much when I quit!"
Wasn't it Jope Biden who authored the patriot act?
*plagiarized
I betcha if we dissected Old Lady Mesothelioma she'd be full of more thermite than the Murrah Building.
Every syllable of Occidental conspiracy theory re: WTC-9/11 removes one calorie of heat from Oriental Enemy Islam. For 1400 years mayhem, rapine, slaughter & lies from the pit of Hell have been the primary tools of Islamic evangelism & proselytization. The simplist solution is most often best, especially in this case. Who says Death To America the most?
Obama.
Am I warm?
I do. LOL Death to America is said by them because america is an evil bunch of bullies and warmongers.
Who INTENTIONALLY shot down a civilian Airbus killing 300 Iranians.
Who installed the murderous Shah.
I say death to America as do many, and we are NOT MUSLIMS.
So take your Musims crap and shove it up your ass.
Are you an American? If so, your patriotism is touching. If the Shah was slaughtering Muslims, he was doing humanity a service. Winston Churchill's summary of Islam's uncivilizing influence is accurate & conclusive.
I am EX American (renounced last year) and Churchill actually was an anti-semite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etBoJJ0GZI8
Who killed 3000 Americans on 911? Why did Silverstein lease the money losing WTC towers for 99 years JUST SIX WEEKS BEFORE 911?
(from a later post in this thread)
More proof that 911 was an Israeli false flag:
The Chesed Gomel incident:
http://911blogger.com/news/2007-04-04/follow-%E2%80%9Cprior-knowledge-911-attacks-overheard-hebrew%E2%80%9D-story-fbi-looks-documents-where-they-cannot-be-found
[3 Israeli's are overheard by a former IDF soldier talking in Oct 2000 about a plot to take the towers down with airplanes; the former IDF soldies goes to the FBI and is interviewed but the FBI refuse to release the report]
There's the Mexican incident 4 weeks after 911:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/mex.html
For those who think the government has never been in the WTC demolition business, the 1993 WTC bomb was made by the FBI's informant on the group, Emad Salem, using FBI supplied bomb parts. He can be heard talking to his FBI handler about his concerns about the group being given a real bomb, a bomb that had just exploded in the WTC parking garage. Pause at 5:48 into this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Y4Qaap6SM
The group had planned to park the van near the support columns of either WTC 1 or 2, but by 'serendipity', that day all the parking spots closest to the towers were occupied by government vehicles and they could only find an empty parking space in the middle of the parking garage, between the towers; of course an explosion there would result in the fewest casualties The FBI pretended to solve the case by finding an axle in the rubble, when all along they were involved with the group for 2 years. They let 2 of the group fly to Iraq the day after the bombing, probably to form a casus belli for war with Iraq in 1993. Only when Salem gave his 600 or so audio tapes of his conversations with the FBI to the judge and defense attorneys in the case, did the whole false flag operation get burried. Even Dan Rather reported on national TV that the FBI knew about the plot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXBmmf9F4rw
So who in the FBI was fired or demoted for letting a 1000 lb bomb, built by the FBI informant with FBI supplied parts, go off in the WTC parking garage, killing 6 people? No one of course.
On this video, you can hear Salem talk to the FBI agent about the bomb, or go to 3:50 for the main point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M8QtYTplyk
This youtube video came out recently showing what may be an orange explosive material called semtex attached to the inside face of one of the few scraggily walls still standing after the towers collapsed. The FBI men are looking right at it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUwmBsvrTQg
Our oligarchs are known to give us a big pimp slap every 30 years or so just to keep us in line:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
Pimp slap every 30 years?....Try a big red, white and blue dick anally raping everyone every minute of every day.
It seems to me that Zero Hedge comments demonstrate the preponderance of probability that the events on 9/11 were inside job, false flag events. Furthermore, the general ways that THE MORE ONE LEARNS, THE WORSE IT GETS, particularly apply to 9/11.
There are actually combined money/murder systems. That 9/11 was surely some kind of inside job, false flag attack, is the most significant symbol of the ways that the current death control systems are based on the maximum possible deceits, and that those then back up the debt control systems, which are based upon the maximum possible frauds. The basic social systems that surround us are DEBT SLAVERY BACKED BY WARS BASED ON DECEITS.
The most important social facts are that governments ENFORCE FRAUDS by privately controlled banks. Inside that context, my opinion is that the vast majority of the articles published on Zero Hedge tend to routinely be too superficial in their analysis. Only in some of the comments does one get some better, deeper analysis.
Of course, any such deeper analysis, that directly addresses the degree to which everything based upon 9/11 became based upon Huge Lies backed by Lots of Violence, is profoundly disturbing, since that is currently the most spectacular symbol of the ways that civilization operates according to the principles and methods of organized crime.
The excessive successfulness of doing that has driven civilization to manifest runaway criminal insanities!
Clean,concise and to the point.
The necessity of the Patriot act precipitated 9/11 just like the necessity of the birth of Israel precipitated the "holocaust."
I honestly feel sorry for whoever downvoted me as you have a serious lack of critical thinking skills and you just plain don't know the real, true history of either of these events.
And to think all the US had to do after 09/11 was to strictly enbforce Immigration laws... on a color blind basis.
This would have solved 90% of the problems then... and we would not have the Illegal immigrant issuews we now enjoy either.
Hmmm...so looks like Trump is correct.
http://www.beyondmisinformation.org/#beyond-misinformation
The most frustrating part is most people still believe the msm narrative. People too lazy, too lacking in any critical thinking skills,too caught up in sports.
So true.
it just takes 10% of the people to convince most of the others, as long as the 10% is very convinced themselves. Spread the word fearlessly
The first 96 seconds of this video covers it beautifully.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXnQoFeVQII
The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth is almost impossible to come by in this world. Thanks to the psychopaths, their tools and the endless layers of lies that they put in place to cover everything up. The truth has no protective layers. It is either the truth or it is a lie.
The psychopaths and their tools committed premeditated ritualistic sacrificial mass murder and celebrated on September 11, 2001 and ever since. This included a very large number of people I knew and worked with over the years. One was too many. The psychopaths didn't even get the mocking recreation of the story right. Their delusions of grandeur and godhood have clouded their judgement and creativity among other things.
So when I ask questions or tell the truth it is met with repeated failed attempts at threats and intimidation from cowards done out of abject fear. Fear they mistake for power. All of which now become premeditated acts against my free will by those giving the orders and carrying out the actions against me. All this angst caused by just 1 humble ZH commenter pointing out a few pieces of the truth. Fear of having the precious lies uncovered and disclosed to those deemed unworthy to know the truth or that may disclose the larger plans of the psychopaths. After all we've all heard the famous line of psychopaths and tyrants that if you have nothing to hide you should have nothing to fear. There is apparently a seemingly endless amount to hide and an inordinate amount of fear from the psychopaths and their complicit tools. If I were them I would be afraid too.
My complete withdrawal of consent to your future plans and actions has been in place for quite some time and will remain. I will continue to dispel your plans and disclose the truth as needed. As always you have the option to reveal the full and complete truth yourselves. And reveal the totality of the fraud and deception to everyone. And seeing as how just about everyone around the world was affected by the events of September 11, 2001 why not start there.
If you never click on my links, this is the day to do so.
9/11 False Flag Conspiracy - Finally Solved (Names, Connections, Motives) Video http://xrepublic.tv/node/5082Website - Melted Granite http://cosmicconvergence.org/?p=8197
We have always been at war with Eastasia. Or Eurasia. I forget
So if we have to ban the confederate flag then we MUST as forget slavery. No more talking a about certain people being slaves. And no more 9/11 rememberances All history is banned down the memory hole
911 == government failure day
No, actually it was government success day. They got bigger and more powerful and their plans worked almost perfectly. They didn't count on the internet being a resource to examine the crap they pulled that day
911 - The footage of 911 is similar to a snuff film. 911 was an example of the Sampson option
WTC 7
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/7wtc.html
16 min - Who Benefitted from 911 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMJ-5BmhkJs
http://www.odmp.org/officer/15843-master-special-officer-craig-j-miller
911blogger.com
Potential WTC7 Manslaughter Charges? Submitted by GeorgeWashington on Mon, 02/12/2007 - 2:12pmI previously wrote about the apparent death of Craig Miller from the demolition of WTC 7. Because the link for the information no longer works, and so the info cannot be verified, I dug a little deeper to try to confirm or refute the story.
As reported by What Really Happened, a rescue worker said:
Craig Miller was technically not a Port Authority police officer, but a Secret Service Officer. Therefore, either the rescue worker erroneously believed that Officer Miller was a Port Authority officer, or two people were killed by the demolition of WTC7.
Additionally, U.S. Congressman Otter believed that Officer Miller died when WTC7 collapsed:
So several people -- an eyewitness rescue worker and a Congressman -- believed that someone died because of the demolition of WTC7 or rescue efforts in the debris. This, by itself, is not definitive proof.
This is a crucial issue because WTC7 was the most obvious demolition of all three of the buildings that were brought down on 9/11. If it can be confirmed that Officer Miller or a Port Authority officer died during the demolition of WTC7 or in subsequent rescue efforts in the rubble, then there might be a strong case of manslaughter against those who carried out the demolition.
Further research should be done on this issue to nail it down one way or the other."
http://911blogger.com/node/6163
"When 7 World Trade Center came down on Sept. 11, an agent on loan from Washington, special officer Craig Miller, perished, and the entire Secret Service office was buried in that building. Yet, despite the devastation, the New York Electronic Crime Task Force has stepped up its operations in credit card fraud and for Osama Bin Laden's money"
http://www.ectaskforce.org/City_Leads_Way.pdf [link expired]
" One employee, Master Special Officer Craig Miller, died during the rescue efforts. Miller was temporarily assigned to New York in preparation for the United Nations General Assembly." http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/press/pub1202.pdf
"in selfless dedication to others, Master Special Officer Craig Miller was lost in the collapse of the World Trade Center."
http://www.house.gov/istook/rel-ss-customs.htm
Thread full of total lunacy.
You be an asshole, bitch.
Guess what guys? It's 14 years since 9/11. I was a junior in college when it happened. We're a bunch of analysts... the REAL good guy tough guys are probably what's keeping all this in check. Let's just acknowledge that if the next jab is worse than 9/11 then it's going to be pretty fucking devestating. A subsequent ww3 is over the top. During the next several years after 911 i experienced enough weird and crazy shit to make my entire chin and neck portion of my beard go grey. I left US in 2011. Personally, i don't want to be there when the shit hits the fan
Respect to all my real zh dudes who are 4 years plus.
the day of 911, old Ollie North was on TEEVEE reassuring everyone to not worry. He said (he said this with a big goofy smile on his face) that 'this was their best shot'
FBI nabs Jewish-American Daesh militnat who called for bombing Australia mosques
http://presstv.com/Detail/2015/09/11/428772/FBI-US-Australia-Florida-Kan...
No, it is NOT theoretically possible that the metal got hot enough to melt steel from an office fire. That has NEVER happened, it cannot happen from first principles, and the smoke was black, indicating a fire that isn't getting enough oxygen to even burn as hot as it could get under optimal conditions, which isn't hot enough to melt steel.
You can come to any conclusions you want, if you choose properly false premises.
If that were true the burner cans in a jet engine would melt.
While you're sucking Ed Snowden's dick in this read -which by the way is a good one on substance...
Let's not leave out those who set foot on the path that angels feared to tread shortly after it happened.
Paul Wellstone, Kevin Ryan, Niels Harrit, Tony Szamboti, James Gorley, David Chandler, Ted Walter, Erik Lawyer, William Pepper, Sibel Edmonds, Richard Gage, Michael Rivero, Tom Drake, Bill Binney, Cynthia McKinney and too many others to put in a comprehensive list.
To those "seen and unseen" that have made the difference in getting this story right and educating the come lately wannabe(s) like Snowden!....
We Salute You!
Old Bush is almost dead so what did he accomplish other than proving to the world that he was a modern scumbag no better than Musolini: filth, scum, a historic war criminal.
Israelis are celebrating today as the anniversary they totally took control of US govt.
They totally took control a few years before that, but 911 was their announcement that their coming for the rest of the world
Ignore the satanic connotation to my avatar. That was a double innuendo back when zh was still up and coming and finding its identity. I'm not a satanist. I'm a zh pure blood. Because I've lived through some of the events that have been posted on this site. As have many of us.
Corbett Report: 9/11 Trillions: Follow The Money https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3xgjxJwedA
Good work Corb! btw Presidential candidate Jeb Bush was also a PNAC Member and Marvin P. Bush was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxd-eXOuTt8
World War III - Who Will Be Blamed? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvcq3OpX8qQ
Here's a segment: Remember WTC7? Here's the BBC clip that shows it still standing when they announced its collapse...
Of Liars, thieves & psychopaths
Why is Khalid Sheikh Mohammad still sucking oxygen and enjoying three square meals a day???
Because they water boarded him more than 180 times until he signed a pre-written confession. IF they kill him now, it won't look good. Duh!
Re WTC7 Lee Hamilton:
"such intense heat built up that the building eventually collapsed"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56_aoSO6pi4
"In its July 2008 Draft Report for Public Comment, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) initially claimed that Building 7 collapsed 40% slower than free fall acceleration."
http://rememberbuilding7.org/free-fall-collapse/
NIST finally admits free fall
Clocking WTC7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP4_8s-2Gmc
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13515&sid=a11...
Forget "melting points", forget "pentagon holes", forget "fake calls and fatty Osamas", or the ever popular meme of "hijackers alive".Lost in the noise, 9/11 "truthers" or questioners of 9/11(of which I am)
have fallen for their own frankensteinish counter-counter legend...
when the truth of 9/11 was right in front of em months after the attacks.
The ever growing comical tale of the popular parroted truth meme(Bush, Cheney, fake planes, missiles, exotic weaponry, fake Osama, etc)
has had the intended effect of making even dyed in the wool "conspiracy researchers" and anti establishment liberals roll their eyes.
I say forget all that noise, there *is* something to 9/11 that's very hideous and troubling, and it has zilch to do with "physical anomalies".
The truth of 9/11 is that there are many layers, each layer obfuscating and protecting the layer beneath that, while muddying the waters enough...ultimately to the point people get frustrated and say "I'll just stick with the Osama story".
This article from october 2003, while very long, is so important.
It breaks down essentially the very dark secrets and origin of 9/11 in very provable real world terms.
How Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Israel were all used in 9/11, but in a way to where they could then be set up as second tier patsies underneath "al Qaeda".
How ISI *IS* the smoking gun. Because they were set up as the obvious fall guys as far back as 1999 when FBI informant Randy Glass heard ISI official RG Abbas say "those towers are coming down"
How the Phillipines Abu Sayyaf group lies at the formation of the core legend of the Yousef-WTC 1993-Khalid-9/11 official story, yet dovetails with Oklahoma 1995 and FBI/CIA operative Ali Mohammed(involved in the 1993 WTC attacks and 1998 African embassy attacks) It was Omar Saeed and Ali Mohammed who would create the modern hijacking techniques allegedly.
How Cheney, Rumsfeld and Perle are cutout patsies as well, just another layer of confusion hiding the real culprits.
How Omar Saaed was a British MI6 agent used to infiltrate ISI, as Mussaref has even said. How Mohammed Atta was most likely German intelligence or Mossad or handled by either. How others were handled by French intelligence. And of course KSM, handled by ISI by way of western globalists.
How Omar Saaed, John Oneil, KSM and Atta are the keys to the riddle.
The dark truth about Daniel Pearl's kidnapping.
I HIGHLY reccomend the following four articles:
the real provable exhaustively research truth of how 9/11 came to be and multi counter legends were weaved:
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KUP310A.html
part 2, which is really part one from summer 2002 describing the full role of John Oneil, Atta(who both were at the same Spanish hotel in early 2001 for an anti terror summit oddly enough), and the setup of the patsy governments:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/KUP206A.html
Great article on the key fact of 9/11:
Khalid Mohammed was working for the ISI
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0303-05.htm
And finally, one of the key origins of Mohammed Atta...before he was doing drug running with CIA linked crime figures in Florida...
he was a protege of David Rockefeller's CDS program in Germany:
http://www.radiofreeamerika.com/Opinion ... TE%20U.htm
(Remember, the WTC Twin Towers came to be from the mind of David Rockefeller and the Bin Laden Group's star architect)
And if after all that, you're still hungry for more...
Evidence that Islamic millitants tied to 9/11 licence/passport scams
sabotaged the sprinkler systems in the WTC:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/Sakhe ... _9-11.html
Evidence that a government/al Qaeda front company sabotaged FAA computers on 9/11:
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/w ... _pt1.shtml
And evidence that Zacharius Mousaoui and other hijackers were part of a
sting operation/surveilence program involving Nick Berg and the purchase of the Flight 93 tickets in Norman Oklahoma:
http://members.aol.com/mpwright9/sting.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2091676.stm
Evidence of Saudi involvement in controlling two of the hijackers
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature ... 08/graham/
Able Danger
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,167130,00.html
and of course, the Israeli Mossad "involvement" in trailing/infiltrating/following/living next to the hijackers
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/cont ... ghijackers
and the "white van Mossad teams" in NYC on 9/11
http://infowars.net/articles/april2007/230407vans.htm
THESE, not the David Ray Griffin red herrings, are the prima facie smoking gun of something "not quite right" with the official story.
You factor in the Sibel Edmonds ATC angle, Hopsicker and Peter Dale Scott's research, NORAD phantom blips, etc and there's quite the tale to weave that has ZILCH to do with thermate or missiles.
sorry meme; Israeli leaders and financial oligarchs from the West planned 911. They directed Silverstein, connected to Israeli's finest players, to obtain 99 year leases on the money losing properties 6 weeks before 911. They control our government.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUbTe50UUgM
Israeli agents were in the Mexican parliment building 4 weeks after 911 carrying grenades!
False flags are the modus operandi of the Mossad. They think you are stupid. They think, no they really believe, they are 'chosen' by a sky wizard, to rule over you and me.
The Chief rabbi of their Likud ruling party admitted to this way of thinking. It explains why things are the way they are; it explains why they don't care if millions of Arabs, Vietnamise, Russians, or Americans are killed. Either face it straight up and do something about it to protect your loved ones, or submit passively and willingly to your fate:
http://crownheights.info/jewish-news/29404/rabbi-ovadia-yosef-gentiles-exist-only-to-serve-jews/
[The sole purpose of non-Jews is to serve Jews, according to Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, the head of Shas’s Council of Torah Sages and a senior Sephardi adjudicator.
“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel,” he said in his weekly Saturday night sermon on the laws regarding the actions non-Jews are permitted to perform on Shabbat.
According to Yosef, the lives of non-Jews in Israel are safeguarded by divinity, to prevent losses to Jews.
“In Israel, death has no dominion over them… With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money.
This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew,” Yosef said.
“Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat.
That is why gentiles were created,” he added.
Yosef’s Saturday night sermons have seen many controversial statements from the 90-year-old rabbi. In August, Yosef caused a diplomatic uproar when he wished a plague upon the Palestinian people and their leaders, a curse he retracted a few weeks later, when he blessed them along with all of Israel’s other peace-seeking neighbors]
When Rabbi Yosef died, over a million of his followers lined the streets of Jerusalem.
Who controls the dollars, euros, or pounds we use everyday to pay for food, shelter, medicine...etc. The same group that did 911 owns the Federal Reserve, Bank of England....etc. We are all truly screwed unless we spread this information around.
The towers had lots of cement in their vertical cores; huge amounts, vertically rising over 1300 hundred feet and measuring 15 by 20 feet in cross section. More concrete than the floors contained. The core was directly in the center of the building and when the building collapsed, the concrete has to end up AT THE CENTER. The core held up 20% of the building's weight; the cement can't turn to dust and just blow away!!! The cores were not solid concrete of course; they had numerous corridors through them and so forth, but the cement was reinforced and contiguous all the way up. It had to be contiguous to prevent forces from dynamically twisting the long vertical steel columns. The Empire state building has the outside wall of contiguous masonry to stiffen the vertical steel columns but the towers put this stiffening on the inside as a veritical cement core.
Look at this video and pause at 1:17; the center of the building is at ground level. There is a steel pole coming up through this base but the base of the pole is the top of the rubble pile and that is at street level. Thermodynamically impossible for a collapse to make a crater!!! An explosive shell makes a crater and thus an explosive made the crater you see in the video. QED. There is no need for Chandler's dynamics, free fall or simultaneous columns giving way absurdities, or any explanation other than thermodyamic impossibility of gravity collapse of any nature creating a crater shaped rubble pile of the tower seen in the video. The crater shaped rubble pile proves conclusively that the towers were exploded from the inside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPJUP-Ry7d0
When did FEMA arrive in NYC? Can you believe it was on September 10, 2001?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EVIfwYKbM8
Wow, they must have never thought the internet could become a revolutionary tool in the hands of us. What faith, or ethnicity has this in your face belief that they are to rule other than Judaism. Perhaps Nazism and Japanese Shintoism shared this aspect. Well at least Judaism teaches that God has a special place in his heart for the rest of us (sarc)
thank you! the crater vid was VERY enlightening.
your welcome! Understanding the crater will free you from doubt
ive heard that some Republicans want to call 9/11 "Freedom Day" how fucking baboonish and Orwellian can you get
Reminds me of the GOP idiot who had the food "French Fries" renamed "Freedom Fries" in the House Cafeteria...OMFG
Buffoons to the right of us, Buffoons to the left of us, and into the valley of death...
"Dick Cheney warns of another potential attack similar to 9/11 ... ISIS has the ability to get their hands on much more powerful weapons"
I wonder where ISIS will get these weapons?
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/09/unmasking-isis.html#1
Um.....people, this is pretty simple. Muslims hate America. They did this. Period. Not bush, not obama, muslims. All they do is chickenshit bomb stuff all over the world. Spain, UK, india...they are fucking pieces of shit. Yesterday our govt just agreed to hand them $150billion to fund more of this same crap. We should bomb the fucking midde east until the sand turns to glass. Right now the bastards are flooding Europe the change it forever.cant wait until the mullato kenyan fag obama is our of our white house. He sucks. He is a muslim too. Faggot.
you're wasting your breath on these moore-ons, i expect most of em helped elect Barack Hussein Obama TWICE....they outsourced critical thinking along time ago, they're trained, they do and respond as they've been trained.
yea, butt, jews are worse. lol
The ones who own the Federal reserve and control our government which has killed (4 million Vietnamise, 2 million Arabs and growing), plus a couple of million more but lets just call it 6 million or so
Anybody is pretty bad if they think the rest of humanity is there to serve them. I hope you don't feel like that besnook.
Any of you tards pushing that fires brought down WTC 7 into its own footprint can go pound sand. WTF is wrong with you.
gravity acts in a single direction
if a safe fell on your head would you topple like a tree or crumble like 911 conspirast?
Looks like a safe already landed on your head.
gravity don't act sideways dude. Gravity don't act like that at all and the rubble pile of the towers can't be crater shaped if it collapses by gravity dude
From owner manager of strip bars to billionaire real estate mogul - Another inspirational story from the psychopathic murderers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kdX-sje9E0 8 min - the money trail (Unanswered questions).
The best 8 min on 911
http://killtown.911review.org/oddities/2001.html
April 2001 - The New York Port Authority granted a 99-year lease of the twin towers and four other buildings to Silverstein Properties (who already owns the WTC 7) making it the most expensive real estate transaction in New York history.
"In April, the Port Authority granted a 99-year lease of the twin towers and four other buildings to Silverstein for an estimated $3.2 billion.
The deal -- which allowed Silverstein to manage the complex and collect rent -- was said by the Port Authority to be the most expensive real estate transaction in New York history." - CNN (09/12/01)
"Silverstein Properties owned 7 WTC outright. It was not part of the original six-building complex." - New York Construction News (01/14/02)
(See also: July 2001 - Larry Silverstein signs a 99-year lease for the rest of the WTC just six weeks before the attacks; September 12, 2001 - The WTC twin towers were hated, money-losers, collapse benefited owners; Killtown's - Was the WTC 7 pulled?)
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=238
"Silverstein obtained this lease from his Jewish synagogue buddy, Lewis M Eisenberg, (who was then the Chairman of the Port Authority of New York), even though Vornado Realty outbid Silverstein by $50m."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&add...
"Last month, The Wall Street Journal reported that the Port Authority in December had quietly agreed to return all of the $125 million in equity that Mr. Silverstein and his low-profile group originally invested to buy the leases."
Holy Cow now we're quoting the American Communist Liberties Union...you're right about one thing, it doesn't make much sense in light of our current enemy friendly DICtator and the enemy useful idiots who elected him not once, but TWICE. Our Politically Communist, err Fascist, rules of engagement, which prohibit profiling based on statistics, ensure everyone will be treated with equal suspicion, easing entry for anyone who has the desire. Meanwhile our lawless Dictator and his Partners in Crime have aided Iran in getting everything they ever wanted and opened the doors to mass importation of third world Islam.
Conspiracy theorists never explain to me how the Jews got Bin Ladin to make a tape admitting to being the brains of the attack, or how they talked all those nice Musilms flying the planes, into committing suicide.
I know one thing, Bush didn't know about it...The look on his face sitting in a little kid's chair in class wasn't acting.
you really are serious!? amazing!
you mean the tape showing a cheerfully plump, right handed 'Osama' wearing gold jewelry when Osama was thin, left handed, and never seen to wear gold jewelry.
Politicians took advantage of a moment of extreme duress for the American people to push through a bill that not only breached the spirit of the Constitution...
You might want to take a look at th CONstituitional CONvention/14th ammendment scams.
http://www.thetruthaboutthelaw.com/the-peoples-case-for-what-happened-at...
http://www.thetruthaboutthelaw.com/its-time-to-tell-the-truth-the-14th-a...
Rebekah Roth about her new book 'Methodical Deception'. New information she has recovered about the 9/11 false flag event will shock you to your core. This bombshell evidence destroys the "official story", forever. Israeli Mossad involvement in the 9/11 false flag attacks can no longer be denied.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=351&v=Kg7Qt4bV0B8
+1000
http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/PREPARING-THE-WTC-FOR-...
Looking back its hard to believe we all fell for it. Not surprizing when it was so well managed from the start. All those wild theories that would have to be true? The size and scope of it mind numbing. Its a hard thing to come to terms with.
Its like that Santa thing. Looking back at that fat old guy poping down a chimminy? The gifts assured us it was real.
Get it. It was real right up until we asked ourselves how can this be.
"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.
Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match."
President John F. Kennedy, "Secret Society Speech", Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, New York City, April 27, 1961
The "official" story parroted by "the media" is the "nutter" consipracy theory.
The logical and plausible explanations involving controlled demolition, drones, three-letter agencies, and Dick calling off the troops are called "nutter" by the demons infesting .gov
Sorry for skipping to the end and not reading all the debate and speculation, but I really don't have the time. 2 points: Building 7 was obviously demolished with pre-positioned charges. If you cannot see that, then you are literally brain dead. Secondly, September Clues, (if you don't know about it, then you are literally clueless) proved using undoctored VHS copies of the live broadcasts, that the "planes" were CGI. If you haven't figured these 2 things out yet, then the rest of what I'm going to say will be completely lost on you.
TBTB laugh at your stupidity every day. But not because of 911, that's child's play. What they find so amusing is the gigantic smorgasbord of lies you've already swallowed. From the laughable theory of evolution to the ridiculous moon landings, your whole cosmology is one giant foundation of lies. The rest of the structure, from vaccines to GMOs is built on top of it.
Let me leave you with a quote from Dave Mcgowan's Wagging the Moondoggie:
"And yet, despite the fact that it was a relatively benign lie, there is a tremendous reluctance among the American people to let go of the notion that we sent men to the Moon. There are a couple of reasons for that, one of them being that there is a romanticized notion that those were great years – years when one was proud to be an American. And in this day and age, people need that kind of romanticized nostalgia to cling to.
But that is not the main reason that people cling so tenaciously, often even angrily, to what is essentially the adult version of Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy. What primarily motivates them is fear. But it is not the lie itself that scares people; it is what that lie says about the world around us and how it really functions. For if NASA was able to pull off such an outrageous hoax before the entire world, and then keep that lie in place for four decades, what does that say about the control of the information we receive? What does that say about the media, and the scientific community, and the educational community, and all the other institutions we depend on to tell us the truth? What does that say about the very nature of the world we live in?
That is what scares the hell out of people and prevents them from even considering the possibility that they could have been so thoroughly duped. It’s not being lied to about the Moon landings that people have a problem with, it is the realization that comes with that revelation: if they could lie about that, they could lie about anything."
Silver For The People
All I know is after 14 years the govt narrative of 9/11 still stands in the eyes of most americans in spite of all the investigation and exposure by truthers. By now there should have been some irrefutable facts proven that the msm and public cant ignore or whitewash.
I guess your just a Hasbara troll after all. So sad.
just acknowledging the fact that in spite of all the forensic investigative abilities nothing so far is enough to awake the sheep from their blind faith slumber
I don't think I could live under a government such as the USA. Although many get their food stamps and social security for fake total disabilities to keep the masses appeased, it is the knowledge the people representing me would do what the USA is done, the murders it has commited on foreign and domestic soil, the people it has tortured.
I don't think the average American knows how much damage has been done. I was in a 7-11 in Canada yesterday. Standing beside me at the counter was a man with an envelope. I looked at him, "So you're the Fed Ex guy?"
"I wouldn't work for no damn American company." I turned to see his truck was not fed ex.
"Start too many wars, screw up our lives too," I said.
"You got that right," he replied.
Young folks could start by remembering what year it took place in.
Now, back to polishing brass on the Titanic.
Many of us were raised believing Pearl Harbor, Vietnam and WW 2 were noble battles. Thank god for the internet is all I can say.
Holy Diver - Dio - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkysjcs5vFU
"Between the velvet lies
There's a truth that's hard as steel
The vision never dies
Life's a never ending wheel"
As someone who has qualifications in structural engineering, I have to say to my fellow Zerohedgers who fervently believe that the collapse of WTC Bldg 7 was a controlled demolition: nice, compelling theory but NOT true. Much of the extensive World Trade Centre precinct was built on a large podium-like structure. Beneath this "podium" were the shopping malls and subway train stations. When the hundreds of thousands of tons of concrete and steel of the two main WTC towers collapsed, much of the force was channelled down and outwards through the galleries and spaces under the WTC podium. The effect of this funnelling was to concentrate and magnify these forces. It was these forces that knocked out the supports of WTC Bldg 7. That's why its collapsed downwards.
Many crimes were committed on the day of 9/11...and afterwards in the name of 9/11. Yes, many in the US government took advantage of this disaster to bring in excessive and draconian measures. But by endlessly wasting time and energy on conspiracy theories that don't stack up, we risk having our arguments labelled as rants of conspiracy nutters.
Two generations of Americans have been raised on conspiracy stories -- from "Parallax View" to Oliver Stone's "JFK" and "X Files". Not only do we now frequently jump at shadows but we endlessly speculate if the shadows were faked. Stay cynical and questioning but don't obsessively cling to theories that defy logic and -- in the case of WTC 7 -- physics.
interesting thanks
thanks, remember that the crater shaped rubble pile is the easist way of understanding that explosives were used. Only explosives forces produce craters. There was no pile driver or pancaking effect since the rubble pile shows that nothing fell in the center of the building to demolish the core structure
Thats the thing. The official stories are the ones that dont add up.
JFK? Realy? Try and make that shot.
The thing about 9/11 for me is the Pentagon. It just dont hold water. Sorry.
The Pentagon thing doesn't hold water? Really?
Do you really think jet fuel brought down the twin towers? Really?
Do you really think debris from the twin towers brought down WTC7? Really?
Do you think the controlled demolition of the twin towers moving in free-fall was a conspiracy theory? Really?
Do you think two completely moronic, untrained, towel monkeys piloted jumbo jets into the towers? Really?
Do you think a handful of bozo, camel jockeys with box cutters over powered commericial airline crews? Really?
Do you think the two planes that crashed into the twin towers were commercial airlines (dressed in grey magically during their flight)? Really?
Do you think sheared steel columns happened as a result of jet fuel fires? Really?
Do you think all the accounts of explosions during the twin tower free-fall were conspiracy theories? Really?
WTC 1 and 2 were OBVIOUSLY BLOWN RADIALLY OUTWARD from their central cores. To see this, just pause this video at 1:17 you can see that WTC 1 turns into a CRATER SHAPED rubble pile, rather than a hill shaped rubble pile as seen in all other gravity driven collapses of buildings. You can see that a lone steel pole protrudes from the center of the pile, the only remant of the core. Locate the bottom of the pole and you can determine that the height of the rubble pile at the center is at GROUND LEVEL!!!!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPJUP-Ry7d0
In a gravity collapse, the building fragments and the falling debris distributes fairly evenly around the center of the buiding's footprint, so that the highest point of the rubble pile is at the center. The height of the center of the rubble pile usually measures roughly 1 foot per floor, or in the case of the 110 story towers, the pile should have been about 110 feet tall at the center. But instead the height is seen to be the same height as the sidewalk around lower Manhattan; i.e., GROUND LEVEL!!.
Thus the government's pancaking theory is thus conclusively shown to be ABSOLUTELY 100% BS since only a very small amount of the debris fell in the footprint of the building, not enough to cause a 'pile driver collapse' of the structure. Obviously this implies that 90% or more of the debris was thrown laterally outward and only explosive forces, from demolition charges, could have done this.
Thus the crater shaped rubble pile of WTC 1 and 2 is impossible to explain thermodynamically as being caused by a gravity collapse due to structural failures. The presence of a crater shaped rubble pile proves BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that explosives were set off within the cores of WTC 1 and 2 resulting in the building's material elements fragmenting and being thrown laterally outward a far distance. The close spacing of the explosives charges on each floor, separated by air gaps, created overlapping shockwaves that pulverized most of the concrete instantly; see page 266 of this reference:
https://books.google.com/books?id=YcUBwgOhoskC&pg=PA266&lpg=PA266&dq=explosive+shockwaves+of+multiple+charges&source=bl&ots=WmEjdKEqcn&sig=n0cV19bPn1v4Vaj4gBowPbXaw6o&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CEAQ6AEwCWoVChMIqcm21--ixwIVxSUeCh2SZgxY#v=onepage&q=explosive%20shockwaves%20of%20multiple%20charges&f=false
The sound of the explosions was masked as follows. The number of explosions per second, if greater than say 30 or so (simiiar to needing 30 frames per second to make motion appear smooth to the brain), would be nearly impossible to discern as individual explosions and would sound more like a constant roar due to muffling and echo chamber effects of the building structure.
Since the buidings collapsed in 10 seconds, at least 200 to 300 charges were carried by moving vans and placed in the elevator shafts which were arranged radially around the steel reinforced core. These charges, triggered in sequence floor by floor, imploded the steel reinforced concrete core (which seemed to 'evaporate' into dust due to the complete fragmentation by multiple coincident shockwaves) and created outwardly expanding shockwaves that fragmented and threw outward building material including the cement floors, resuling in the crater shaped rubble pile. Thermite was used to weaken all the support columns before the charges were set off in sequence, but the presence of thermite had little contributing effect to the formation of a crater shaped pile; thermite without the many explosive charges used in the towers, would have resulted in a conventional hill shaped rubble pile.
You can see the floor by floor pulverization of concrete (by charges separated by air gaps causing multiple reinforcing shock waves) in this video of the collapse of WTC 1; at around 48 seconds into it, you can see that the remnant of the steel reinforced concrete core or 'mast', about 20 feet in width (the left edge is partly obscured by some trees) stripped of it's concrete by explosive charges, stands briefly, then falls over:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYzIja6mlRs
Although the WTC 1 and 2 tower blue prints became, for mysterious reasons, classified once the 911 commision and NIST began their 'investigations', they were leaked out a few years ago, by somebody concerned that the NIST model of the buldings had purposefully left out the important center mast design element in each tower. Each tower had a 15 by 20 foot rectangular mast made of reinforced concrete and extending 1300 feet up. The center mast was a novel design feature of the time, needed to dampen oscillations that would occur if just 1300 foot tall steel columns ran up the building. Each mast contained more concrete that all the floors combined and was located dead center in the middle of the footprint of the buildings. The Sears tower and other towers over 1000 feet have had to use the same mast design to dampen oscillations. In contrast, earlier skyscrapers such as the Empire state building relied on their outer walls of masonry to dampen oscillations. The WTC design, and later buildings such as the Sears tower and current WTC building, put this stiffening element on the inside. This core structure carried 20% of the building's weight.
http://911review.org/WTC/concrete-core.html
The shape of the WTC 1 rubble pile is crater like, and SUFFICIENTLY proves that explosives blew the building out along it's vertical axis. A few scraggily walls at the base bend backward and away from the center, appearing as if they were blown back from explosive charges in the center of the towers....obviously because they were!. The towers basement was only 60 feet deep. Normally there should be a "hill shaped" pile of rubble following a pancake collapse due to structural failure, and the center of the rubble pile should be about 100 feet above street level, 1 foot per floor. However the shape of the WTC rubble pile is crater like, or 'bowl like', and impossible thermodynamically to occur from the collapse of the tower. The mammoth weight of the centrally located 1300 foot tall concrete mast, measured from ground level, would have made certain that the rubble pile would be hill shaped and not crater shaped.
In contrast, WTC 7 was 640 feet tall and had a 40 foot deep basement, not proportionately different from the towers, yet it's rubble pile was hill shaped, as expected in a gravity collapse. The basement of the WTC 7 and the towers was supported by the soil all around it, and thus would not collapse outward at all, and thus would be expected to provide a street level platform for the buidling material to pile on top of.
Look at 43 seconds into this video to see how tall the WTC 7 pile is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2L_lu8ocLM
WTC 7 was demolitioned normally, probably because as it was not built over the 16 acre concrete bathtub that WTC 1 and 2 were built over, falling chunks would not endanger damaging the walls of the bathtub and letting the Hudson flow into the tunnels beneath lower Manhattan. If the towers were allowed to gravity collapse by explosives placed to remove supports as in a normal demolition, the cleanup of the asbestos and debris would have shut down lower Manhattan for months. And the towers had an extremely stiff steel reinforced concrete mast that would have been left standing if just the column supports were cut, so the perps pulverizing the towers into dust.
They had to necessarily pulverize each tower's strong core structure, whether made from just tubular steel, steel reinforced concrete, or both; to have avoided destroying the core, a huge problem would have occured in the months ahead due to having to pull a several hundred feet tall structure down and safely remove the fire retardent asbestos material that had been sprayed on it.
A reporter asked Govenor Pataki the next day why there was so little rubble present where the had stood towers and his response was that it had turned to a 3 inch layer of dust from river to river.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcvvhVv-cAE
The photos of ground zero are crime scene photos that tell how 3000 people were murded. The TYPE OF CORE, WHETHER STEEL REINFORCED, TUBULAR, OR BOTH DOESN'T MATTER regarding proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that the towers were blown up. What is critical is the presence of the crater shaped rubble pile. WTC 7 didn't have a concrete core, yet it has a hill shaped rubble pile and so should have WTC 1 and 2. If WTC 1 and WTC 2 had a concrete core as opposed to a steel tube core, then the only difference this would make would be for the perps to have needed more explosives but it wouldn't change the argument.
The crater shaped rubble pile of wtc 1, whose center is at ground level and whose edges go up about 30 to 50 feet, prove conclusively that powerful explosives were used to blow rubble out (over 100 concrete 4 inch floors, huge amounts of steel,...etc) and away from the center of the building
The crater shaped rubble pile is really all the proof we need to show that explosives blew out the material of the towers and that no pile driving or pancake effect took place. Any physicist or engineer would be able to see the logic of this argument That's the beauty of thermodynamics: by looking at the tower on September 10 2001 and the crater shaped pile of rubble it turned into on September 11 2001, we can determine the least amount of energy needed to effect the change without worrying about the path the structure took to get there. Obviously to effect this change, MUCH MORE ENERGY than simply gravitaional potential energy was involved. Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth have been trying to explain the dynamic collapse of the towers but this a very complex a system to model and the public is not going to understand the arguments made by these professionals when they discuss joints, braces,..etc.
Simple 'thermodynamic arguments' are easier and more accessible to people since they can easily agree that tall buildings collapsed from pancaking effects must necessarily form a hill shaped rubble pile and that if they instead form crater shaped rubble piles, then much greater explosive forces were at play.
For those who think the government has never been in the WTC demolition business, the 1993 WTC bomb was made by the FBI's informant on the group, Emad Salem, using FBI supplied bomb parts. He can be heard talking to his FBI handler about his concerns about the group being given a real bomb, a bomb that had just exploded in the WTC parking garage. Pause at 5:48 into this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Y4Qaap6SM
The group had planned to park the van near the support columns of either WTC 1 or 2, but by 'coincidence' that day all the parking spots closest to the towers were occupied by government vehicles (most likely prearranged this way to minimize casualties--the US had not yet morphed into a monster that eats it's own children) and they could only find an empty parking space in the middle of the parking garage, between the towers; of course an explosion there would result in the fewest casualties The FBI pretended to solve the case by finding an axle in the rubble, when all along they were involved with the group for 2 years. They let 2 of the group fly to Iraq the day after the bombing, probably to form a casus belli for war with Iraq in 1993. Only when Salem gave his 600 or so audio tapes of his conversations with the FBI to the judge and defense attorneys in the case, did the whole false flag operation get burried. Even Dan Rather reported on national TV that the FBI knew about the plot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXBmmf9F4rw
So who in the FBI was fired or demoted for letting a 1000 lb bomb, built by the FBI informant with FBI supplied parts, go off in the WTC parking garage, killing 6 people? No one of course.
On this vidio, you can hear Salem talk to the FBI agent about the bomb, or go to 3:50 for the main point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M8QtYTplyk
This youtube video came out recently showing what may be an orange explosive material called semtex attached to the inside face of one of the few scraggily walls still standing after the towers collapsed. The FBI men are looking right at it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUwmBsvrTQg
More proof that 911 was an Israeli false flag:
The Chesed Gomel incident:
http://911blogger.com/news/2007-04-04/follow-%E2%80%9Cprior-knowledge-911-attacks-overheard-hebrew%E2%80%9D-story-fbi-looks-documents-where-they-cannot-be-found
There's the Mexican incident 4 weeks after 911:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/mex.html
There's this as well; flight 93 was headed for 5 minutes on a course towards NYC before it crashed; was it headed for WTC 7? Look at the segment H to I from this wikipedia flight path:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93#/media/File:UA93_path.svg
No jet fuel contamination was seen in any soil sample from the flight 93 crash site, the first time this has happened in an airline crash site
One of my favorites is that FEMA arrived in NYC on 9/10/2000 for a mass casulty drill. There were hundreds of FEMA agents present on 9/11 a few blocks away who immediately came down and took over the whole site, preventing investigations such as testing for explosives, as is required by NY state and city laws.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nv9V8-dnEw
[years ago a friend of mine, who designs steel high rises, told me that his strucutal engineering professor had just summoned several students into his office and told them in a solemn voice that he as well as the rest of the faculty of his department knew the governments story was BS but they were very afraid to publically state it]
risk.averse
Well you're heavily outvoted already by Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. I am retired demolitions and pyrotechnician and was as well one of the first couple of hundred lay members of AE 9/11 Truth and there are well documented and thoroughly well qualified professionals therein who would not hesitate to call you a liar as I do. Either you are no professional, not even with basic physics education in fact and believe that tosh you wrote or you are mis representing the truth about WTC-7. It was a perfect controlled demo with every indication of such a thing still visible and audible in numerous videos in existence and absolutely NO OTHER explanation exists or could beyond magic to explain that building's collapse.
It isn't even remotely arguable and you are a liar, a complete and utter liar no matter how one cuts it.
we watched the buildings come down on the TV. fall like it was planned into a small foot print..one would think that the side of the buildings impacted by the planes would cause the buildings to fall to that side or that the core center would remain standing at some high floor level..i guess it was a miracle..of modern demolition.
I cannot accept that those in power in America are that evil. so it was a miracle.
hedgeless_horseman
Allow me to answer that one for you as one name sprang to my mind from when I took a closer interest in those aspects of the infamous day. I believe it is fairly well documented actually somewhere along the line, that Michael Chertoff was the man who authorised that release of the five happy dancers (and about 200 more fellow tribesmen and women who got out of dodge just after 9/11).