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Forget The Greek Crisis, Immigration Will Divide Europe Against Itself
Submitted by Ryan McMaken via The Mises Institute,
Europe has complex immigration rules. As the EU web site shows, there are multiple layers of immigration regulations encompassing both the local national level and the EU level.
But, as the recent influx of refugees and economic migrants has shown, the EU government is able to flex its muscle in an ad hoc fashion in the service of compelling member states to accept the migrants and refugees. The "quota plan" being forwarded by the EU government would divide up migrants and refugees among the EU member states, and, of course, over time, these migrants would qualify for those member states' taxpayer funded public benefits. In Germany, for example, officials "estimate that as many as 460,000 more people could be entitled [next year] to social benefits."
Big Countries vs. Little Ones
The proposal could become a mandate if approved by a "qualified majority" of EU member governments, a type of majority that is weighed in favor of the larger members. Most of those larger members are in favor. If adopted, however, one doesn't need to be exceptionally perceptive to see how mandates apposed on dissenting member states could be a source of significant division among member states, and especially, their populations.
Writing in the UK independent yesterday, John Lichfield avers:
North vs south; east vs west; Britain vs the rest; German leadership or German dominance. The refugee crisis is like a diabolical stress test devised to expose simultaneously all the moral and political fault lines of the European Union.
Germany leads to way in calling for more migrants. While part of it is no doubt Germany's ongoing attempt to rehabilitate itself from its fascist past, there may be other considerations as well. Claire Groden in Fortune notes:
Germany has one of the world’s most rapidly aging and shrinking populations. With one of the world’s lowest birthrates, the country relies on immigration to plug a growing workforce hole. According to one expert quoted in Deutsche Welle last year, the German economy needs to attract 1.5 million skilled migrants to stabilize the state pension system as more Germans retire...According to current official estimates, every third German could be over 65 by 2060, leaving two workers to support each retiree.
Indeed, demographic issues such as these are surely part of the calculus for member states.The German government has likely weighted the benefits of new young workers against the possibility against the cost of those 460,000 new residents. But for other countries less desperate to save an overextended public pension system, they see mostly costs when it comes to more migrants and refugees.There is a real divide here between Western Europe (especially Germany and Italy) and Eastern Europe (especially Poland and Slovakia) in terms of the percentage of the population that is over 65.
But the divide between different member states, as described by Lichfield, surely goes well beyond this. There are issues of relative wealth to deal with as well. The Germans are rich compared to the Poles, for example, who have already announced they will take refugees but no economic migrants.
The British, who have never gone all-in on the EU seek to maintain control over their own immigrant policy.
But in all these cases, those who are less powerful within the EU are likely to resent taking orders from politicians in Brussels who assert they can direct local policy more effectively than the locals. Yes, the Germans, French, and Italians, who from the largest voting blocs, feel they can reach an agreement that will be good for "everyone." The smaller, less powerful countries — with good reason — aren't so sure. And were each country free to set its own policy, conflict among the member states would be minimized, but problems arise when Germany, which sees benefits (whether intangible or otherwise) can impose obligations on other member states.
Local vs. Supranational
This isn't to say that national/local policy will always be superior to EU policy. However, there is also no reason to assume national/local policy will be worse.
From a laissez-faire perspective, there are good practical reasons to guess that locally based policy will most reflect local realities. Yes, ideally, only private owners will have say over how property is used. That is, refugees and migrants would only have places to go if private owners, including churches and civic organizations, provided a place for them to live and work. This is what the "blue card" option is designed to maximize.
The private-sector situation is complicated by the presence of a state, but government policy tends to become most untenable the farther it gets from the the most localized level possible. An immigration policy decided at the municipal level, for example, is more likely to reflect the local needs and economic realities of the population. As we move upward, however, policy becomes ever more un-moored from the local economic, geographic, and demographic realities. Once you've reached the supra-national level of an organization like the EU, you're now dealing almost solely in the abstract and dealing with only a tiny number of representatives standing in for an immense population that will be affected by policy decisions. In other words, you've massively centralized and aggregated the knowledge necessary to assess the situation. Thus, good assessments become unlikely.
As I (and many others) have noted before, countries with waiting migrants should try the "blue card" experiment. Make the border open to anyone who agrees to never be eligible for social benefits. If he (or she) agrees, he may forever work or live anywhere the private sector will accept him. Then we'll see how long the line remains. Of course, I won't be holding my breath until the EU endorses that one. Rather than turn to the private sector, the EU will simply insist on racheting up centralized control and top-down regulation of the workforce and population.
In this situation, then, some member states may decide they are being bullied by Germany and other large states, which have not considered the true reality on the ground in the member states are are subject to the whims of policymakers in Brussels. And the perception will arise that costs (in the form of new migrants) are being imposed on other member states. Economists will argue over the true tangible or intangible cost or benefit of new migrants, but what will be important here will be the perception of powerlessness among the smaller member states and their populations.
The locals then become likely to push back. As Lichfield notes:
And yet this crisis seems more profound, more acute, more tangled, more poisonous, than any that has gone before. It is not about currencies or net contributions or farm subsidies but about the core issues of common humanity and solidarity that the EU claims to epitomise...
As it struggles with its greatest ever humanitarian test, the EU is in danger of being wrenched apart. Outright break-up is improbable. More likely there will be an acrimonious acceleration of the existing trend towards scission into a “core” and “periphery” – with Britain and Eastern Europe left in an outer or second division.
Ultimately, the imposed "solutions" to the migrant and refugee crisis may be a signal to many members that the EU isn't quite what they thought it was.
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Yep, I won't shed a single tear. :D :D :D
If a loved one is killed by an imgant, target the highest official you can, or the highest level pro-imgant person. This only ends when they feel the pain they laughingly inflict on the rest of their society.
Europe = Geriatric Petting-Zoo (H/t to Doug Casey)
And the house pets are these Africans and Muslims. Europe is a masoleum to the dead civilizations and cultures of white European history. Walk through Vienna Austria and tell me what you see. 70+ year old white people, no white children, and millions of young Muslims that have inherited the former capital of a great white empire. What happens when the money from over taxed white European workers runs out? Who will pay for these house pets?
What will those dumbasses do if the people of India wake up tomorrow and decide to migrate to Europe?
These people have opened a Pandora's box they may soon wish they had kept locked shut.
My guess is the US will soon be seeing the same tsunami of mass migration exceeding even what we see today just so D.C. can continue under the guise of paying out SS to all the Boomer Geyser generation.
There are some issues with this author's suggestions - he writes:
1. "That is, refugees and migrants would only have places to go if private owners, including churches and civic organizations, provided a place for them to live and work."
I don't know about all EU countries, but in Germany, Switzerland etc., as long as you are a member of the catholic or the protestant church, the government is forcing you to pay "church taxes", which then can be used by the church rulers in any way they deem right. So it's not really a christian's choice to support muslim immigrants or not.
2. "Make the border open to anyone who agrees to never be eligible for social benefits. If he (or she) agrees, he may forever work or live anywhere the private sector will accept him. Then we'll see how long the line remains."
Yeah, right - so you expel the immigant family if they are not living up to their end of the bargain? Seems like joke to me knowing how these western countries operate.
I hear that those poor tortured christian Taliban also need a place of safety and Mamma Merkel will surely help them. ;)
Which is why protestant sects are superior. All you have to do is accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and that's it. Now get up and dance and clap and sing. Praise Jesus! Fuck the pope!
The EU has a socialism problem.
Nothing some Cultural Marxist Retro Hegelian Social Engineering can't handle...Spectre's Tribe already have their notepads and ShiteFlak Jackets ready:
What the heck is Barbara Spectre's motivation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROGnoNJc6Nw
spectre
noun
1.a visible incorporeal spirit, especially one of a terrifying nature; ghost;phantom; apparition
2.some object or source of terror or dread:
the specter of disease or famine.
Your #2 is a false choise. Close the borner to anyone but a highly educated NON MUSLIM with money.
"Make the border open to anyone who agrees to never be eligible for social benefits. If he (or she) agrees, he may forever work or live anywhere the private sector will accept him. Then we'll see how long the line remains."
Absolutely correct. If they don't contribute, they don't collect.
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Whites have been busy havenig abortions, turning gay/trannny/etc, and taking their pets to a shrink....it's the end result
Caitlyn Jenner and Chelsea Manning are the future of the West. With these "brave" types how can we lose?
Now...what are the Kardashians wearing or not wearing today?
Exactly, Europe is becoming more Islamic than ever before. Those little countries in Europe and including Germany aren't going tolike this and it's going to tear it apart.
"If a loved one is killed by an imgant"
Europe including the Britain does NOT have the right to bear arms.
Only farmers (shotguns for vermin), the privileged 1% (bodyguards n personal fireamrs) and the criminal class may possess firearms.
Get rid of the right to bear arms and the US will find itself in the same privileged position of being totally defenceless.
I'd spend my last day on earth trying to kill the writer of Agenda 21.
Your best bet would be to join with Paul Ehrlich in culling the population of the Earth down to 500 million as stated on the Georgia guidestones.
My best guess is that the 3rd world hordes heading to Europe and the US is now only going to increase since no efforts are being made to curb any form of immigration from the 3rd world whether legal or illegal.
I'd settle for Maurice on a stick.
German politician admits there is "no plan whatsoever to deal with refugee crisis", implies military might get involved soon to uphold public order and safety
Quote from today: "There is no contingency plan in Berlin. It could be a real possibility quite soon that we have to call an emergency situation!"
http://www.welt.de/videos/article146324429/Seehofer-kritisiert-Merkel-Da...
Gee, who coulda seen this one coming?
The FAILED experiment of CENTRALIZED Fascist Criminal Fraud Corporate Governance has Destroyed the 74% NFL Watching American Population CULTURAL SOVEREIGNTY and NATION. Today the 74% NFL Watching American Population Do NOT Control ANYTHING in the Country they FOUNDED. Not the CENTRAL gov. Not the Military, NOT the Private IRS Banking Financial System, Not the Social Engineering School System, NOT the Ministry of Propaganda Television Media, Nothing!
If the 74% NFL Watching American Population Do Not Wake-UP and 'TAKE ACTION' Quickly The only CHANGE that will happen as a mathematical and scientific certainty is the Permanent Cultural Destruction and EXTINCTION of the 74% NFL Watching American Population and their Children!
".... we will feminize and homosexualize millions of your sons." Globalist NWO
".... no single unified western culture will be permitted to thrive we will tower of babel all western cultures with mass racial immigration colonization, it is permanent and irreversible." CFR Member NWO
Germany does not have much of an army, I mean besides their FSA, but that's not a literal army.
The Krauts are doing the same mistake that the French did about 40 years ago, when they decided to accommodate any number of "pieds-noirs" from their former North African colonies. They could have learned from the French experience which was nothing short of disastrous, with results visible to anybody interested. For those who hold any doubts about how badly the French screwed up their own country with their insane immigration policy, I recommend a walk through some of the "banlieus" surrounding Paris (or any French big city, for that matter). Better check up on your insurance coverage before attempting such a trip though... most of them don't cover "war zones". Here's an introduction on the subject:
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5128/france-no-go-zones
For those with an Anglo-Saxon preference or no linguistic skills beyond English, there is always London, or Birmingham, or Manchester, or... well, you get the point.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5177/no-go-zones-britain
And many in the German Army come to NATO exercises "weapons naked."
isn't the real solution for an otherthrow of an unjust regime? You can't solve the problem by just moving all of the population. On a geopolitical scale, that is a stupid solution.
Ideally, yes. But, like in N. Korea, the socialist/communist/Marxist/totalitarian regimes keep the people weak through undernourishment (read about the old Romanian food centers where people had to eat) and the dictatorship strong. Also, the people are unarmed so have a hard time fighting against well armed dictators. In the end, they generally need help. That's what the U.S. has tried to do in many instances. Most, except WWII and South Korea, maybe, have not worked out very well over time.
Western militarism in North Africa and the Middle East hasn't stopped, so it seems likely that the refugee tide will continue, or even accelerate, especially if the current wave has a "soft landing" in Europe.
Current problems are only the beginning of global immigration flows driven by war, politics, and ecological challenges. Our so-called leaders don't have a clue.
Or they do have a clue and this was planned all along.
With anti-immigration sentiment and political parties rising not only in Europe but the US it makes sense to swamp these regions with millions of 3rd world immigrants with the hope this keeps the current elites in power and the status quo going economically.
The rush to amnesty the 40-50 million illegals in the US so they can override the votes of the native born is paramount in maintaining not only their power but their plans for a NWO police state.
The real question is whether they can achieve their goals or will all of this backfire on them? Only time will tell.
If amnesty hits the US the fat lady will be done warming up and ready to howl.
PE, you have succinctly nailed it.
This has nothing to do with Western militarism. It has to do with Western welfare states. Half of the migrants are black Africans and South Asians. They bypass the poorer EU nations and head straight for the northern EU states that have generous welfare policies. The pathetic thing is the Germans think these stone-age parasites will save their pension system. LMAO!!!
Exactly.
Same thing in the US. They aborted 50 million babies in 40 years and are now importing 30 million Central American and Mexican alleged "migrants."
Good bye Germany... Nice knowing you.
Commentary on German media blaming Assad and ISIS for the influx of immigrants:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1PEWCmEMJM
How about blaming the ME Governments, the EU "Project," and frau Merkel?
Germany's only chance to escape the shackles of the E.U. and regain its sovereignty is to destroy the E.U. via back door means. That might be what's going on here actually.
Or they really are a moronic Catholic suicide cult hell bent on their own extinction (this is also quite probable).
You get it wrong: Europe is now ruled by Berlin, Brussels is gone!
How did he get it wrong? This is ethno-suicide/genocide of the white race.
It's bad enough whites are currently a distinct minority in the world. But do we have to eliminate ourselves due to white guilt for the past sins committed by our governments and fore-fathers.
The upper elites must want a totalitarian police state world wide and are more than willing to rid themselves of the pesky whites that hold traditionally to certain inalienable rights.
The whites aren't the ones telling us that we need to get rid of ourselves.
Maybe, maybe not. There are whites working in lockstep with the program.
And, whites are buying into the mass media crap being fed to them.
Endless commercials showing white women being paried off with black men. And, even now they're trying to show white men and black women together.
You don't see many whites willing to stand up to cries of racism, zenophobia, homophobia, islamophobia.
Why - as soverign nations and disctict etnicities are you listening to the BS, regardless of who is telling you?
Silence like a cancer grows.
- S&G
Your "blue card" experiment is so purely hypothetical it's not even worth mentioning. The EU is socialist to the core. Goose stepping to government dictat is the preferred pastime of most Europeons.
My German friends have been complaining about Turks streaming into Germany for over 3 decades now. This is not a new problem to the EU.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn-UCR5p0y0
We are doomed.
With no weapons.
And a criminal government exposing its people to the most primitive hate beards.
You haven't reached bottom yet or you'd know what to do.
Imagine how many containers full of AK-47's, RPGs, grenades, and ammo made it through. Imagine.
Now you have battle hardened ISIS soldiers flooding into Europe with plenty of weapons provided by Arab oil princes.
2 Muslims were able to paralyze the entire nation of France for days just recently. What happens when it's hundreds across Western Europe working together? If you've been to Europe you know half the police are 100 pound female affirmative action hires that couldn't win a fist fight with a 10 year old boy. The European sheep are being fed to the wolves and the slaughter is going to be biblical. Ironic choice of words given that afterwords the Bible will be banned in Europe.
There are still many armories in each country full of US Cold war weapons. Find them and use them
...and if you can't, head to your nearest petrol station and fill a jerry can.
Keep Europe vermin free.
The lies, obfuscation and sheer bloody incompetence will be the downfall of the European project.
The couldn't run a fucking bath
The sooner it all collapses the better.
Goodbye R.I.P (NOT).
Once the muslims get done with it, it'll no longer be a European Union, it'll be an Islamic Caliphate.
The E.U. is dead on arrival. This immigration situation will destroy the Schengen zone, the E.U., and the euro currency block.
Hundreds rally in Poland despite government ban on anti-immigrant rallies:
https://www.rt.com/news/310751-migrants-demonstartion-Poland-far-right/
Thousands march in Slovakia against the forcible ethnic cleansing of their people from their ancestral lands at the hands of the tyrannical E.U. government:
http://www.rt.com/news/268615-slovakia-islamization-protest-arrested/
Place your bets folks on when the E.U. is nothing but a footnote of history. I say the Schengen zone collapses within 3 years, Poland, the Czech Republic, etc. never adopt the euro currency, and the E.U. itself is dead within 10 years.
We get WW3 before your 3 year Schengen point.
The EU, like the US is dead now.
The refugees are like the blow flies and maggots feeding off the corpses.
It's looking more like China every day.
well
get in refugees,
refugees turn out to be ISIS terrorists
terrorists start killing people
please solve the terrorists' problem in EU, even if you take away the remnants of once our freedom...
double post
Eurocrats in Bruxelles that are not elected allow the huge inflow of immigrants to destroy the national identity of the seperate nations to create the united states of Europe.
However it will blow up in their face as nationalism is on an unstoppable rise.
There is nothing like "Germany" any longer. German mass media do not represent real public opinion and they know it. TV is no better. We get flooded with propaganda that claims that we need these invaders (mostly). What they fail to recognize is the fact that Germany will not get cheap labour but people with a cultural background that differs completely from the so called "Bio-Germans" - strange expression but often used.
A lot (perhaps more than 50 p.c.) cannot be integrated because of lacking language skills and so on. The tax-payer foots the bill while industry catches some cheap labour. In the end Germany gill get millions of people who are frustrated and full of hate. And not without reason. These peole are human-beings and not just material that can be formed for the benefit of industry.
I do not know personally anyone who accepts this invasion - with the one exception of one retired public servant in the 80s who hopes that the invaders will pay his 4000,- EUR a month pension.
Anyone in Germany who criticizes this cynical human transfer is called a racist, a fascist, an Islam-hater and his existence is destroyed. This is the German Democratic Republic resurrected.
I recommend some reading at www.pi-news.net
Germany is turning into a Nazi concentration camp for the benefit of a few at the top tier.
The Nazi concentration camps were work camps that exploited those the state deemed unworthy of being human.
As we see in France and Sweden these new muslims will refuse to work and will only want to live in their no-go-zone ghettos at the expense of the state.
Much like the inner cities in the US.
There's a youtube video on PP showing the refugees refusing food and water from the authorities and even destroying food and water given to them.
You are probably correct, but the according to Der Speigel (English,) the current Merkel Government cannot watit to welcome more Muslims into Gernany. Obvisoulsy the Germans did not learn from their Turkish invasion.
The Greatest example of how Muslims intergated into the Modern Era is Turkey and the Ottoman Empire. Both were failures on their abitlity to educate in the Sciences or the Political Governance of their Empire. It took German Officers to even fight WW1 for them.
Look at the current ME, - its all "monkey see monkey do" in the majority of Muslim populations. These people will NOT intergrate with a modern, Western and Scietific Germany. Whithin one generation they will hate Germans enough to wish to conquer them.
>>>one retired public servant in the 80s who hopes that the invaders will pay his 4000,- EUR a month pension.
Chickenfeed.
Your man should have gone for a position with the Chicago School Board.
It really cannot be overemphasized how important ethnic and religious differences are in geostrategy. Brzezinski often referred to areas with a particular weakness in this area as "ethnic cauldrons" and the Balkans were one area he referred to as such. It appears they may be trying to Balkanize Europe. Here are some other interesting quotes from ZBig, some I have posted before.
"The five new Cental Asian states, by contrast, can be said to be rather more in the nation-building phase, with tribal and ethnic identities still strong, making internal dissension the major difficulty. In either type of state, these vulnerabilities have tempted exploitation by their more powerful and imperially minded neighbors." He then shows a map of what her refers to as "ethno-linguistic zones".
"Potentially, the most dangerous scenario would be a grand coalition of China, Russia and pehaps Iran, an 'antihegemonic' coalition united not by ideology but by complementary grievances..... Averting this contingency, however remote it may be, will require a display of US geostrategic skill on the western, eastern and southern perimeters of Eurasia simultaneously."
He also referred to Azerbaijan and the Ukraine as "vital geopolitical pivots", repeatedly uses the terms vassals and energy, refers to Turkey as the souther anchor of NATO and both Turkey and Iran as "primary important geopolitical pivots."
It is easy to see that Russia probably cannot afford to let Syria and Iran go. The US and Israel will still control a huge portion of the ME with out gaining Syria and Iran so it seems the oligarchs want the full enchilada.
The U.S. was a second rate power until Europeans slaughtered 60+ million whites in WW2. The U.S., despite several advantages (natural resources, superior culture, land, position between East Asia and Europe), cannot compete in the long run against a unified white Europe. That's what the flood of non-whites into Europe is really all about, leveling the playing field. Turning Europe's safe white cities into crime ridden, violent, non-white hell holes. The U.S. is on track to be majority non-white by 2050, and Europe was inevitably going to regain global dominance as a result (maybe by 2100, maybe 2150, but eventually). But if Europe is also a mishmash of various non-white people + a few whites, then it will remain dependent on the U.S. in perpetuity, especially with the scary Russian bear back in the picture nipping at Europe's flanks. Speaking of which, if Western Europe is a Muslim caliphate made up of various Arab ethnic groups and Africans then that makes Western Europe even more alien to Russia and destroys any possible political or economic integration on that front. What does a Russian have in common with a French speaking black Muslim? Nothing.
Most people only pay attention to the daily news and know nothing of history. You have to think 50 to 150 years ahead in this game.
THICK:
Wow, I bet nobody else, here, thought of that. Now I'm starting to like the idea. Just don't bring 'em here to the USA.
Or there is a tiny religion that has the wherewithal and determination to destroy ALL Whites, everywhere, and has been busily and happily pursung the task.
Willy,
The U.S. pulled European chestnuts out of the fire twice, rebuilt the place, and then protected the continent since WWII until the current administration. Since Reagan, Progressives of both parties have done nothing but spend blood and treasure to the point Europe better start thinking strategically cause the Yanks aren't going back.
Step 1: Germany's neighbors erect border fortifications "just in case Germany tries to invade us again".
Step 2: All EU countries grant residency to anyone who claims to be a refugee.
Step 3: These migrants immediately move to Germany because the welfare benefits are much better there.
Step 4: Germany's economy collapses under the burden, and starving refugees flee en masse.
Step 5: At the borders this "German invasion" is stopped with razor wire, concrete ditches, machine guns, and flamethrowers.
You know the tribe destroys Germany every generation or two. Looks like it's that time again.
It's been going on since the Roman Empire. The Romans had very little luck bending the Germanic tribes to their will.
What is the goal of the tribe's powerful and wealthy bloodline?
They seem to love strong government that subugates the peasants while they gorge at the taxpayers's and banker's trough. This never ends well as the parasite kills the host.
For example, didn't they overthrow the Russian aristocracy and launch communism? Then when that economy failed, they regrouped but continued to press for a NWO. Sure seem to love wars, financing both side. Very diabolical.
Europe will fall apart and become a region of muslim warriors, good luck America.
Plot twist: WW3 will be America vs. the Islamic Caliphate of Europe.
France will be a nuclear armed Muslim state within 1 generation.
Europe has two kinds of countries:
1) Those who want Moslem immigrants; and
2) Those who have spent centuries under Moslem domination.
A very wise post. History will be a guide as well as the almost certain reality of how current Europe will react. On a more simplestic level, the Catholic vatican will not surive. The Eastern Orhodox will again hold the fort for Russia and Christian Europe.
If the Vatican will not stand for the White Race, then it deserves to fall. Their Latin American Socialist pope is not Catholic and deserves no allegiance from our People whatsoever.
Oh,...its much much much too late for 'No"
The penis is already in the vagina
A very adpt analogy given the mass rape of white European women and girls by these "refugees and asylum seekers" over the past 15 years.
You can add the US to list of rapes of white girls by Hispanic migrants.
Well, The Limosine Liberals in Europe are now taking on their own populations with the worst of all tyranies, ethnic cleansing. Don't worry the native populations will turn on these Craven Bastards/Bitches. First, their Tax Bases will slowly dissolve, thus staving the beast and then The People will end up having to violently confront The Velvet Fascist Hand that beats them into submission.
When all is said and done, the younger people who have been starved of oppurtunity in The Collapsing Western World will have to sideline these Old WWII Believing Douches to Nursing Facilities (or worse) and then have to deal with the mess that has been left to them and they won't be able to pick and choose between The "Good Immigrants" and The "Bad Immigrants". They'll be forced to deal with all of them as a mass of Benefits Seeking Oppurtunists who will have to be deported en masse back to the places they came from. Maybe with some of the Western Culture which really hasn't rubbed off on these scammers they'll get a clue and maybe try and run their own economies on a more sustainable plane.
That's my feeling about what will transpire in the years to come. But we'll see as Mrs. Merkel herself has said "Multiculturalism just doesn't work" and in the case of forced Multiculturalism IT WILL WORK EVEN LESS SO.
:) Mr Flesh
Western and Northern Europe is fucked. I can't see them ever saving themselves from this. Eastern Europe, though, is already on the way out of the E.U. They haven't been brainwashed in the schools and propagandized hard enough by the media for long enough to accept ethnic cleansing via mass immigration of alien people yet.
I wish I could feel sorry for the young Europeans, but I can't. Deep down they know what's happening, but they are too selfish/self-absorbed and coddled to care about it. They are still living off the spoils of their ancestors and just hoping to be the last generation before the fall. Too bad for them - they missed it by a generation or two. Of course I blame their parents who elected these fucktards in the first place.
Soon they'll see what it was like to live in parts of Europe during the Middle Ages. They'll beg for the Ottoman Empire to come back and restore order.
It's gonna get really really ugly for a few hundred years at least; once the fences/borders come down it's pretty much all over for them. Take a look at Somalia Mr. Euro-fag, that's your future, buy hey we're multicultural now!!!
I hate to be the one to point this out but by the time Europe has reached the boiling point your suggesting it will be kill or be killed.
The muslims will take no prisoners. One they get the numbers they will start the slaughter of the infidels. You either convert to islam or die.
Now is the time to either convert or start preparing to fight.
It seems to me that this is being done to keep the war on terrorism going for as long as possible.
Swamp Europe with muslims and spread the war to new areas keeping the hundred year war going for as long as possible.
"Mission Accomplished"?!!!
It's the new ISIS motto (moot too) .... apologies to LBJ .... "Guns 'n' Mosques" ?
Caucasians have pathological altruism. This pathology exists in an especially strong form in Northwestern whites, those peoples from Nordic countries; and also includes pathology to a lesser degree people’s from Germany, Britain, and France.
Evolutionary pressure from fourth ice age, which was particularly severe, created ice age people who easily form trust networks. Trust networks are important to allow societal and civilizational constructs to form. In Scandinavia, socialism works because everybody is Johansson, or Sons of John. They are all one tribe, so redistribution via government is ok because it is the same as transfer within the family.
“Bowling Alone” by Robert Putnam can be read with the view that white people form trust networks necessary for a republican type government, or even socialism. In multi-racial America, neighborhoods hunker down, and turtle – they pull in and hide from neighbors. Arabs, Islamists, and Jews are especially low trust peoples, who see only their family or in-group. Hence these people types are incapable of building high trust civilizations.
Middle Eastern Cultures are my family against your family, and my tribe against your tribe. A good proxy for a high trust society are how baby sitters are acquired; in middle eastern countries – especially those which were goat herding cultures, they will not use a baby sitter from another tribe, or even another family if it can be avoided.
What about Han’s (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans), they also survived fourth ice age? They act as an in-group but are not pathological. They also easily integrate into civilizations built by white men. They tend to not try to take over levers of political power. Jews for example are drawn to power centers like a parasite to a brains host. Han women have a high out-marry rate, and if an in-group cannot control the breeding of their women, they will not long survive as an in-group.
Islamist and Jewish in-group behavior and control of women (must marry within the race or religion, etc.) is a proxy for “low trust” cultures.
These types of low trust people are easily accepted into pathological altruist areas like Scandinavia.
So, the very thing that helps build higher civilization, high trust is the very same thing that threatens to be civilizations un-doing.
When high trust white people exit the earth and become extinct, then a question is beggared? What are qualities of those peoples who will then assume the earth?
If you don’t have lawful sovereign money, borders, single language, and a unique culture – then you do not have a country. High civilization requires high trust peoples, so the future is now in balance.
If a country is made up of high trust peoples then their leadership needs to be on guard against their own internal defect - pathological altruism.
It is not altruistic to admit immigrants from low trust societies; it is national and racial suicide.
International money, like “gold” or banker “credit” allows one to pretend that money is not law. Law originates by a sovereign people agreeing on moral and contractual precepts in advance.
Low trust people groups will not create moral law, or moral money.
Low trust people groups are at war with higher civilization – low trust peoples have evolved along different pathways. High trust altruists, especially liberal whites – or libtards – will have an especially hard time with this argument, as they believe everybody is the same, despite mountains of history showing that is not that case. Libtards will be a high proportion of population in Scandinavia and other white regions, and have to be protected from themselves, as their pathology makes them “feeeeel” but not think. This pathology also makes altruistic whites a perfect petri dish for a pathogen, for example Jewish in-group parasitism, to grow and take root.
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That is the best description of the problem I've read yet. Thanks.
europe, you need another Vlad the Impaler..
MEFO, the issue at this point is whether or not we Nordics can adapt and overcome our genetic Pathological Altruism pre-progamming, once we become broadly aware that this once-beneficial quality is now in the 21st century a fatal genetic flaw. Or, more importantly, can we preserve this first-world quality, but only for our own race?
MEFOBILLS,
You are describing American liberals who refuse to believe that radical Muslims actually want to kill them. For some reason they want America taken down a couple of notches and think radical Muslims will understand they are the good guys. There is no way anyone could convince them that those people see all Non-Muslim Americans as infidels whom they are commanded to kill.
Their not migrants their invaders. As for Germany, Merkel has already said Germany is willing to take 800,000 this year and 500,000 next year and the years after. 99% of the invaders are Muslims. Does anyone in their right mind think that letting over a Million more Muslims in your country is going to make your country a better place for the citizens of Germany or France, or UK or for that matter the thousands that Obama will be bringing in to this country. Muslims don't assimilate into any society they go to. They want you the citizens that welcomed them to change for them. As their populations grow in numbers, they will demand more and more from the fools that took them in. Its all part of a bigger plan to turn Europe into an Islamic caliphate.
Not all europeans are being conned by these invaders.
Hungarian Bishop says their not migrants their invaders. http://foxmuldar-conservative-thinker.blogspot.com/2015/09/hungarian-cat...
Germany faces Anti Migrant vs Pro Migrant Standoff http://foxmuldar-conservative-thinker.blogspot.com/2015/09/germany-faces...
Muslim migrants shout Fuck You, Fuck You, Allah Akbar, Allah Akbar in Hungary http://foxmuldar-conservative-thinker.blogspot.com/2015/09/germany-faces...
Do you really want to be bringing these animals into your countries?
What were witnessing now is Reverse Slavery. In the past, Slaves were bought and shipped to countries to work for their owners. Todays new Slavery will have the citizens of these countries working to support the migrants/invaders that will be leaching off the welfare system for much if not all of their lifetime.
More then 90% of Middle Eastern refugees on foodstamps. https://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/more-than-90-of-middle-e...
And it only going to get worse. By bringing in thousands more of these muslims, adding to the Millions of Illegal aliens also receiving all sorts of tax payer funded services and you can see how Obama is turning America into his own banana republic.
Excellent comment.
These hundreds of thousands are an invading islamic army.
The goal the European Caliphate.
The muslims have a word for it.
Thy have created other empires using the same means.
Hijrah.
Conquest by emigration and breeding.
This is exactly how they are taking Europe and taking it fast.
And the treasonous thing is that the European elite want it to happen.
It is deliberately planned.
Check out the EU Barcelona Declariation of 1995.
The islamification of Europe.
All there.
They have changed the name but the ultimate plan remains.
They want an islamic Europe.
Certainly David Cameron does.
He is grooming an islamic to succeed him as prime Minister.
He wants to hand our armed forces over to an islamic chief of defense staff.
Europe has been betrayed.
Time for guillotine and lamp post - else we convert or die.
Ecology Now told me not to have kids in the 70s.
Most of us listened to the propagandists in public schools.
"Time for guillotine and lamp post"
I agree with most of that. I'll supply the rope.
The Catholic Europe with the migrant efforts of its current Pope will be eliminated within one generation, unless the current invasion of Europe by Muslims is not stopped.
The Earster Orthodox church in Russia, Serbia, Greece and in the Former Eastern Countries of the old Soviet Union will still be there after the EU are conquered by Islam. Catholic Poland and a number of smaller countries will have to make some interesting choises.
What? It's not complicated.
Watch any European or Arab TV channel, the utility and applicability of rules and laws is directly proportional to the weak spineless stupidity of central Europe's moron politicians.
Angela Merkel: German multiculturalism has 'utterly failed
Calls for EU exit referendums in all of Eastern Europe, and all of them would say yes to an exit. Western Europe fails to understand that multi-culturalism has never been a part of the Eastern Europe and furthermore has failed everywhere it has been implemented. Majority's opinion is basically Fk the EU if thats what it is we want out, we did not sign up for this. So Germans will shoot themselves twice in the same day, in 20 years the will have a caliphate and will seek asylum themselves in white Eastern Europe in 20 years and two if Eastern Europe leaves the EU and all those laws designed to slow them down are lifted, lower end German exports get hit big time, as quality in Eastern Europe is on par at 30-50% off. Thats all folks last one in Berlin turns off the lights.
Eastern europe also has a whole different history with islam. All of it negative.
They were the ones guarding the frontier while the western nations grew fat and stupid.
Wouldn't it be better to just tell all the people who didn't have children they will not be allowed to retire because they failed to plan for their replacements? Let them work until they die. Better than being killed by immigrants who have no love or loyalty to Germany, its history or it's people.
At this point Moe Stooge could rise up against the banksters and half all western nation's populations would follow him.
Muzzies lead the world in procreating with half-sisters, half-brothers, first cousins, etc. etc.
AND THAT'S A FACT JACK, CHECK OUT THIS MAP OF "CONSANGUINITY" PER REGION
http://consang.net/index.php/Global_prevalence
What are Muzzies? Like you trailer park trash redneck Americunt Heinz 57 mongrels????
I am guessing here as I have not communicated with the author of the post, but Muzzie may be a flippant descriptive for a Muslim.
INTERNATIONAL SLANG exists for every race and ethnic group. As this is ZH and if you are personally offended, take your sensitive sensibilities elsewhere.
Alfred,
This is a financial page. Most everyone here got out of junior high a long time ago.
Irony...
This article was submitted by Ryan McMaken of the Mises institute. Mises people are for "international Gold" as money.
In both WW1 and WW2 Germany was being dismembered by international capital.
In interwar years, and during WW2 Germany used their own internal "labor" money as the Gold had been drained away by Versaille debts.
When Schcacht used a form of bilalteral credit, really just accounting entries, to bypass "international" gold system, then that was just too much for international capital.
When Germany threatened to unite Eurasia via Baghdad/Berlin railroad, that was too much for international capital of England and Wall Street.
International Capital is JEWISH USURY MONEY. The scheme originated in Amersterdam by Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews. These particular Jews flocked to Amesterdamnnnn after Vasco de Gama discovered the southern route. This discovery then broke overland Caravan route mechansims. Caravans transported Gold to West, and moved Silver to East. Of course spices were moved simulataneously.
The caravaneers were Jews, and entrepot cities like "Mecca" were on the route. Losing exchange rate mechanism, meant that Jews lost their rental income source.
The parasite then had to jump to where Portugese ships unloaded spices and gold, and then took on silver and other exports. That unloading/loading location was Amsterdamnnn.
From there Jews invented credit money and stock market capital. It was 700 unlicensed Sephardic Jews in Amersterdamns stock exchange that invented the modern credit money system linked to stock market capital. OK... this is reality and not taught in text books.
Orange kings that subsequently invaded England were darker and Semitic. IN other words, Jews set their sights on England, and eventually were able to parasitize it in 1694 with bank of england. This debt spreading bank was privately owned and soon hosted England with debt means.
By 1890 the parasite had fully jumped to America, and by 1912 the Fed was born along with 16'th 17'th IRS and other machiner to support parasitism.
The U.S. and England are parasitized by International money, originally it was Gold, and now it is money as Credit.
Austrians do not understand history or the nature of money. Original Austrian theorists ARE MONEY POWER JEWS.
Therefore, anything an Austrian writes with regards to immigration should be discounted. International money is a pyramid scheme to enrich a small ingroup of predators. They are psychopaths intent on being God, or ushering in their illuminist Messiah.
Stop calling it immigration.
Fuck the EU.
Fuck the EU sheeple which let it happen.
Germany suffers from guilt like white Americans do from slavery.
It becomes a religion like it is for the left since they are mostly atheists, they replace it with
nazi hunting, racist hunting cult.
Lots of pure fucking retarded Americunts here who don't know shit from shinola about Europe.
And you obviously must know a lot about what?
You have been on this board for 3 weeks and all you know is how to throw BS and then duck for cover. As our Enlish friends will say - Bugger Off.
Alfred,
Nearly ten thousand Americans lie resting in the Normany Cemetery. They were minding their own business when their government called them to save Europe from fascism at the behest of France and Britain among others. Those WWII vets who live die at the rate of 1000 a day. They remember a lot about Europe.
Of course that cemetery only represents a tiny portion of nearly 300,000 Americans who died in combat learning about Europe.
Fast forward to the present - if only Wall Street and the military-industrial complex were in NOT in charge.
Hungary is the voice of reason and strength in Europe. They dealt with many invasions by the Ottomans. They know these people are invaders. PC liberal UK France and Germany have their heads straight up their ass. Someday europeans from those countries will be seeking asylum from Hungary as their countries are now ruled by the muslims.
It is alright my brothers, for all of Europe and eventually the U.S. shall be flooded with the great Fasci..... I mean tolerant religion of Islam. Love, Prosperity, Invention, and all else shall be great under the Almighty Allah.
Sigh, this is truly a terrible time for Western Civilization. Centuries of progress and history thrown into the trashbin. Socialist policies and centralization of powers dominate a society that once stood for freedom and liberty and benefitted greatly from those gifts. Those Gifts that were handed down to use from our forefathers who paid for them with their blood. Instead we layer future generations with debt, racism, oppressive religions, economic crises, and single parent families fraught with affairs and divorce.
Angela Merkel, David Cameron, and the French leader of the time all called Multiculturalism a failed ideology and yet the powers that be and many of its citizens still advocate these policies. And we are no better here in the U.S. Our president hands out amnesty through executive orders and claims that illegal immigrants were just like our ancestors. Except mine went through Ellis Island and didn't have a welfare state.
Stand fast any of those remaining in Europe who still believe in freedom and free markets, as well as tolerance. We may be outnumbered, but I'm not about to go down without a fight
"Europe" as a united entity is doomed. Greece made it obvious that both rules and pragmatism were being compromised solely for the benefit and at the behest of the Germans. Now that knowledge gets turned into an emotional issue for EVERY EU nation that gets a quota of immigrants imposed upon it at Germany's insistence, for Germany's benefit. No, it won't end tomorrow or next week. But the debates and the subsequent debacle will be another crack in a structure already weakened by the knowledge that one "European" nation has been thrown under the bus to protect the big banks of France and Germany. And then we'll get the spectacle of the Catalan independence referendum . . .
Long live Charles "the Hammer" Martell.
The TV told my wife immigrants assimilate after a couple of generations. Hmmm.
I imagined a conversation many, many years ago.
A tribal chief sat cross-legged on the South Dakota plain contemplating the words that he had just heard.
A new race was approaching. Both differrent and indifferent.
The greediest of the clan expected trade and grift from the new comers and maybe a way to leverage influence within his tribe.
The avaricious one stated boldly "It may be difficult at first, but the newcomers will surely see the superiority of our ways. Once they learn our history and weigh our values they will then assume our culture. This will happen within two generations". He then went on to say, "And someday TV's will speak these words to unthinking housewives.
Native Americans lacked an immigration policy. Did not end well for them either.
When European whites realize they must emigrate to the USA to survive, they will be told to go to the end of the line. And they will obey.
They are not immigrants nor migrants refugees, they are invaders. Has any oil rich Arab country accepting refugees?
It is not an immigration crisis, immigration is just a symptom. This is a crisis of socialism/welfare and multiculturalism in Europe.
I hope it will burst into some sort of Europe-wide revolution and all non-whites will be deported back to where they came from.