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Behind The Media Propaganda: Father Of "Drowned Syrian Boy" Was People Smuggler

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To a certain extent, the old adage “out of sight, out of mind” is unavoidable for anyone, but we don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say that Western society and especially the American public, exhibit a generalized ignorance to events taking place beyond their borders that’s completely out of synch with the degree to which most Westerners have easy access to information. That is, if the US public cared to know what was going on outside of suburbia and beyond the Starbucks drive-throughs and the strip mall Targets they most certainly could find out, but that would likely mean discovering all manner of really inconvenient and often disturbing things and so, at the end of the day, willful ignorance allows everyone to perpetuate the myth that everything is fine. For its part, the media is more than happy to expose harsh realities as long as they’re conducive to ratings so, for instance, “unarmed black teen shot 18 times by angry white police officer” works well, while “Syria’s bloody civil war continues unabated” does not because to the largely ignorant public, Syria might as well be Mars and if for some inexplicable reason, life or death ended up coming down to being able to correctly identify Syria on an unlabeled map, well, it would be time to start praying. 

Sometimes, however, the media stumbles across or, more likely, is fed an image or a series of images that are so indelible that they’re forced to run them, and the public consciousness is, if but for a fleeting moment, jarred out of its perpetual stupor. That’s what happened in 2013 when YouTube videos appeared to show the victims of a so-called “gas attack” that Bashar al-Assad decided, apparently out of the clear blue sky, to launch on his own people even though were the story true, it would seem to have been a rather peculiar strategy given that the strongman was fully aware that the US was just waiting on an excuse to launch a few cruise missiles. Then, a little more than two years later, we got another example of imagery powerful enough to focus the public’s attention on a far-away civil war when the body of a drowned toddler washed up on a beach in Turkey. 

And even though connecting the proverbial dots isn’t something everyday Westerners are particularly adept at, it wasn’t too difficult for the media to paint the picture: 1) drowned toddler was a refugee, 2) there’s a refugee crisis thanks largely to a war going on in a place called Syria which isn’t on Mars but is in fact in the Middle East, 3) this place called Syria is where ISIS is, 4) the Russians are there too. It would be difficult to come up with a narrative more conducive to rallying public support for an invasion if you were trying. And indeed, maybe someone was trying, because as Reuters reports, the drowned child’s father might not have been a fleeing migrant after all, but rather a people smuggler and Aylan might have been on the boat not because his family intended to save their child from the horrific violence escalating daily in Syria, but rather because profiting off of other people’s misery was his father’s chosen profession and he often brought his family along for the ride. Reuters has the story, excerpts from which are presented below.

Via Reuters:

The father of drowned Syrian toddler Aylan Kurdi was working with smugglers and driving the flimsy boat that capsized trying to reach Greece, other passengers on board said, in an account that disputes the version he gave last week.

 

Ahmed Hadi Jawwad and his wife, Iraqis who lost their 11-year-old daughter and 9-year-old son in the crossing, told Reuters that Abdullah Kurdi panicked and accelerated when a wave hit the boat, raising questions about his claim that somebody else was driving the boat.

 

A third passenger confirmed their version of events, which Reuters could not independently verify.

 

"The story that (Aylan's father) told is untrue. I don't know what made him lie, maybe fear," Jawwad said in Baghdad at his in-laws' house on Friday. "He was the driver from the very beginning until the boat sank."

 

He said Kurdi swam to them and begged them to cover up his true role in the incident. His wife confirmed the details.

 

Jawwad said his point of contact with the smugglers was called Abu Hussein. "Abu Hussein told me that he (Kurdi) was the one who organized this trip," he said.

 

Amir Haider, 22, another Iraqi who said he was on the same boat, confirmed Jawwad's account and identified Kurdi as the driver. He told Reuters by telephone from Istanbul that he initially thought Kurdi was Turkish because he was not speaking, but later heard him talking to his wife in Syrian Arabic.

 

A photo of Aylan Kurdi's body in the surf off a popular Turkish holiday resort prompted sympathy and outrage at the perceived inaction of developed nations in helping thousands of refugees using dangerous sea-routes to reach Europe, many of whom have fled Syria's four-year civil war.

And more from The Daily Telegraph:

THE father of the three-year-old boy whose lifeless body washed up on a Turkish beach, rocking the whole world to its core, has been accused of being a people smuggler who captained the fateful voyage.

 

A woman who lost two of her three children on the vessel made the stunning claims to Network Ten via her cousin, who lives in Sydney, on Friday night.

 

It was claimed on Friday night that his ­father Abdullah was a people smuggler who captained the dodgy boat for its entire voyage, capsizing in heavy seas and killing at least 12 people.

 

Iraq-based Zainab Abbas, via her Sydney-based cousin Lara Tahseen, told Ten News she paid $10,000 for the voyage and Aylan’s father was in charge of the boat.

 

“He was a smuggler, yes, he was the one driving the boat,’’ she said.

 

She claimed a separate people smuggler to whom they paid the money had told them the captain was taking his own children on the voyage.

 

“He said ‘don’t worry, the captain of the boat, the driver, is going to bring his two kids and his wife,” she said.

 

The woman claimed the boat was travelling faster than its capabilities and had too many desperate asylum seekers on board.

 

The family of five was told there would only be six on the boat but when they got on there were 14.

 

“He was going crazy, like speed,” she said.

 

“He was the one driving the boat right from the start. When they set off five minutes in he was looking left and right, worried, then he was speeding. Even his wife was screaming at him to slow down,” she said.

 

Ms Tahseen said when the family arrived in Istanbul they phoned a number they were told was Mr Kurdi’s but another man answered.

 

They paid this man the money and he told them when they arrived at the island they were heading for, on which they would move to another boat to go to Greece, to phone him.

 

He and Mr Kurdi would then split the money, Ms Tahseen claimed. The trip was only supposed to take 15 minutes.

Now obviously, what happened to Aylan (and to an untold number of other refugees fleeing the Mid-East) is a tragedy and whether or not his father was the man driving the boat and profiting from the refugee crisis or was in fact a victim fleeing war like everyone else doesn’t change that (and in many ways, if the above account is true, Aylan's fate is actually even more tragic), but what is does change is the narrative being fed to the public.

It also seems - again, assuming the story outlined above is accurate - that it's possible Kurdi brought his family on the trip in order to make those paying him for the ride more confident in his ability to get them from Turkey to Greece safely. "If I was a people smuggler, why would I put my family in the same boat as the other people?" Kurdi asked MailOnline. That's a good question, but one (admittedly macabre) explanation is that it was a kind of people smuggling marketing ploy, something along the lines of this: "you know you can trust me because I have my own family on board." A less conspiratorial take on that theory would be that he did intend to get his family out of the Mid-East and so he simply overloaded the boat because the collective safety of the passangers was secondary to getting his family out of harm's way, but even if that's the case, the exact opposite ended up happening because by putting too many people on the boat, he inadvertently doomed Aylan, and besides, anyway you look at it, he was looking to make $5,000 off of the other passengers' desperation.

Coming full circle, the greatest tragedy here is that the entire episode will be used as an excuse to drop still more bombs on Syria and eventually to justify a ground invasion and because the public can't see past the various smokescreens being employed here, Americans and Europeans will end up tacitly accepting the patently ridiculous idea that the best way to stem the flow of refugees is to bomb the place from which the refugees are fleeing. 

Of course the entire thing is made even more absurd by the verifiable fact that it was the West which destabilized Syria in the first place meaning Washington along with its European allies are now set to use a massive refugee crisis of their own making to create a still more massive refugee crisis by effectively doubling down on efforts to destabilize the country on the way to ousting Assad. And with that bolded passage in mind, we bring you what is quite possibly the most ironic statement to ever come from the mouth of a sitting US president:

Obama on Friday: "We are going to be engaging Russia to let them know that you can’t continue to double down on a strategy that’s doomed to failure in Syria."

 

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Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:13 | 6539292 Sanity Bear
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told ya so

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:18 | 6539301 max2205
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...a 3 hour tour...

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:20 | 6539302 Took Red Pill
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new video from STG is a good summary of where we are, how we got here and where its headed;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvcq3OpX8qQ&list=TLsg-cG9FTFMMxMjA5MjAxN...

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:23 | 6539309 CaptainAmerika
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Mexico(with the help of Space-X) is readying a single EMP weapon that will knock out all electronics on the entire planet and everything in orbit http://www.philiacband.com/propaganda.html

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:02 | 6539381 Creepy A. Cracker
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But this is why we need to allow illegal invaders to flood into the U.S., taking jobs from legal residents and citizens. 

 

IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!!! HOW MANY MORE DEAD CHIOLDREN AND PUPPIES DO YOU WANT?!?!?!

 

(crying now...)

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:02 | 6539387 0b1knob
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And he was going to use his smuggling profits to get his teeth fixed.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:19 | 6539415 TongueStun
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WHICH MEDIA?

 

The Right Wing Christian Media? The Old Order Amish Media??? The Catholic Media? The Muslim dominated press?????

 

WHY be afraid to state that the media propaganda conspiracy is a product of the SOCIALIST ZIO-JEW MEDIA?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:57 | 6539502 Pure Evil
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Kinda makes you wonder? If Trump gets elected on the pledge to start deporting illegals will the US also be deluged with a new massive wave of Hispanics, Chinese, Hindu Indians, Middle Easterners to the point he won't be able to handle it.

I doubt he could build a fence in two years. It would take the Armed Forces on the border to hold back the tsunami of refugees.

And, of course, we'd get the same sob stories we're seeing now.

Maybe this is just a prelude to what we can expect in the coming years.

Only now, they're just honing their crocodile tears propaganda to see what works on the stupid FULL LIBTARDS.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:02 | 6539514 TongueStun
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IF trump gets elected and IF Trump starts deporting Invaders, Trump WILL BE JFK'd....The illegal alien destruction of America is not Obama's doing.....but as a good Zio-Jew puppett and fellow America hater, he's more than happy to go along with it.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:10 | 6539536 BaBaBouy
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Global MASS Media Esp BB Sea Full Of Absolute SHIT...

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:25 | 6539568 realmoney2015
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My theory is that they (the establishment they) are going to use this crisis (that they created by intervening in the middle east for decades) to ship terrorists and ISIS into America. They ( the esablishment) will also arm them with more weapons and plans to carry out attacks. They (the establishment) will let the attacks take place. They (the establishment) will then blame the collapse on terrorists. They (the establishment) will then take more freedoms and have drones and military (police) patroling our country.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:56 | 6539635 Son of Loki
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Where is Syria again?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 13:28 | 6539720 James_Cole
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What in the ever-loving-fuck is the author trying to get at with this story? They are quoting REUTERS for their big 'scoop', hello! Reuters IS THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA, and then talking about uninformed people following the msm?

Then, there's some vague point about the father being a people smuggler escaping Syria...smuggling his own kids!

Coming full circle, the greatest tragedy here is that the entire episode will be used as an excuse to drop still more bombs on Syria and eventually to justify a ground invasion and because the public can't see past the various smokescreens being employed here

er what??

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:04 | 6539809 LetThemEatRand
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If anything, this particular MSM (Reuters) story helps the official narrative that bombing Syria is a good idea.  The basic take-away of the story is that a bad Syrian guy drowned his own son smuggling others for profit.  How convenient.

The bullshit propaganda onion has many layers.  This author just bit right into it.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:18 | 6539852 James_Cole
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"If I was a people smuggler, why would I put my family in the same boat as the other people?" Kurdi asked MailOnline. That's a good question, but one (admittedly macabre) explanation is that it was a kind of people smuggling marketing ploy, something along the lines of this: "you know you can trust me because I have my own family on board."

This point is particularly inane. So, according to the author it's plausible that this man managed to get his entire family through syria, through turkey to the mediterranean sea all in some insanely sociopathic scheme to make a few extra bucks convincing a group of people (who let's face it probably had LOTS OF OPTIONS because people smuggling is a buyers market) that his boat must be safe because his family is all on it (including him!!).

That's some high level diabolical mental retardation right there.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:34 | 6539882 corsair
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The original story stinks.

This follow-up stinks even more.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 19:22 | 6540545 Squid-puppets a...
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right. TOLD TEN NEWS. thats an australian news outlet. the kind that would say anything to demonise asylum seekers in anglo-centric righteousness

i should know. im an anglo aussie.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:42 | 6539902 L Bean
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Top comment. 

"OoOO look over here no look over there no wai look at that greedy brown person. Aren't the ones from Syria terrorists anyway? The kid was obv a future terrorist"

The fart smell of this board's smug is fucking overwhelming. Talk about divide and conquer.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:45 | 6539927 L Bean
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It bears repeating. Inane is an understatement.

So, according to the author it's plausible that this man managed to get his entire family through syria, through turkey to the mediterranean sea all in some insanely sociopathic scheme to make a few extra bucks

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 17:41 | 6540303 beemasters
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How the hell anyone could fall for this, I will never know. Does anyone ever insist pilots bring their families just so we would be convinced to fly?

Besides, if it was the case, Kurdi could have just lied and nobody would have bothered to check if he was indeed married (to anyone on the boat). Hell, if I were a paying passenger, I would rather he didn't bring them aboard for the free ride while adding unnecessary extra pounds.

 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:20 | 6539827 ZD1
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Drop more bombs on Syria? Not while Putin's forces are there.

 

 

James_Cole the UK gay troll living on the government dole doubts that any Muslim would ever smuggle other Muslims into the welfare countries of Europe?

How does James_Cole know? Maybe he gets his information while servicing his Muzzie masters?

 

Meanwhile, the nationalist Sweden Democrats staged a gay pride march featuring men kissing each other through areas of northern Stockholm where Muslims make up a majority of the population – 75 per cent, according to some accounts. The Sweden Democrats think they’ve struck gold with marches designed to provoke Muslims into throwing stones at homosexuals and force Left-wing gays into defending their oppressors.

 

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/07/swedish-nationalists-pl...

 

 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:21 | 6539859 James_Cole
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ZD1, zee non-sequitur bot.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:43 | 6539913 L Bean
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Muzzies and fags muzzies and fags muzzies and fags GOOD GRIEF GET A HOBBY

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 15:55 | 6540101 847328_3527
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Haven't seen this reported by any Soros news site yet ... so it can't be true.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:22 | 6539860 Chris Dakota
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They want to Balkanize America like they are doing in the Middle East.

Small countries they can more easily handle.

Balkanize yet create Global Governance.

sick fucks

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:19 | 6539526 BaBaBouy
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Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies, Meanwhile HUNGARY Takes The Brunt Of This Organized Confusion...

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 13:01 | 6539647 Never One Roach
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Hungary was suckered punched, no doubt. Their common sense move is to do "the humanitarian thing" and round these people up, place them in safe place and return them to their homes.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 13:45 | 6539755 Bokkenrijder
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I live in Germany and quite honestly: I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON!!!

It feels like I'm living in the USSR, or North Korea, the propaganda is relentless and the floodgates with 'refugees' remain open.

Anyone who even mumbles that "hmm, maybe it's not such a good idea" it automatically labelled a "racist" or "neo-nazi."

The emotional propaganda is absolutely nauseating and I'm still wondering what the politicians are distracting us sheeple from. What's going on?! What sick Middle Eastern war are they drawing us into?! What multicultural disaster are they creating!? Juncker, Merkel, Rutte, Cameron, Hollande, Obama, all of them!

What the FUCK is going on?! What the FUCK are they doing?!

This will end in tears, lot's of tears!

p.s. here's an Australian TV documentary about Aylan's father: http://www.smh.com.au/world/migrant-crisis/aylan-kurdis-father-is-a-peop...

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:07 | 6539822 BaBaBouy
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Whats Going On?
Your country is being REDUCED down to an average common denominator of lets say Bulgaria...
Some Will Say, Bulgaria Is Nice...

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:26 | 6539863 Chris Dakota
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Watch this, it should explain it to you.

One thing is we should not be afraid to be called racists or nazis.

10 yrs ago I watched a youtube from an old KGB defector from the 80s and he said

"Americans police Americans" Yeah they do, and on 911 if you doubted the official TV story

they yelled at you.

These sickos have studied the sheeple mind and know exactly how to tune them up.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7IaCcAJQwY

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 15:27 | 6540044 Buckaroo Banzai
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Wow. I knew things were bad in Sweden but, wow. Thanks for posting that, it is valuable background info, and really illustrates what a totally fucked up situation they have on their hands.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 16:08 | 6540112 847328_3527
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Bokken, keep reading ZH for accurate updates. The MSM, even in America is so slanted and distorted most people are mislead also. Unfortunately, this is a great case of, "Hoping for the best and preparing for the worse."

 

Oh yeah, great video about Stockholm. I was there a few years ago and the Muslim ghettoes close to the city are so dangerous at night I could not go out of my hotel. Hard to believe Sweden is this suicidal.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 17:51 | 6540320 CheapBastard
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Good link Chris. It confirms my suspicions; accepting these illegals refugees is all about subsidizing the construction and banking industries who will pocket billions building these news cement boxes. You can be sure those politicans will be richer along the way also. This is an indirect bailout forcing taxpayers to transfer their wealth to bankers and RE people.

 

 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 16:06 | 6540120 Bokkenrijder
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Thanks for the link Chris Dakota, this is EXACTLY what's going on in Germany and my native Belgium/Netherlands as well.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:00 | 6540942 MSimon
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One thing is we should not be afraid to be called racists or nazis.

 

What you have to watch out for is being called a Jew. That can get you killed.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/white-supremacist-admits-three-kansas-murders-seek...

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:42 | 6539896 Chris Dakota
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To tell you the truth I don't believe this woman.

I don't believe any of them at this point.

I saw her ID, looked at her chart their is zero indicators at this

time of losing her children. Nothing in the kids charts either.

Im sorry this always shows because this would be an earth shattering event.

If the boat driver could lie like this, so could she. Then begs to go to Australia.

And if you want to say we astrologers can't see this it is because you have been BUSTED.

This is fake, this is a lie, she is a liar, a Piscean liar major league.

 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 15:40 | 6540071 Joe Plane
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<<This will end in tears, lot's of tears!>>

And blood, unfortunately.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:23 | 6539562 NoPension
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All he has to do, is announce a zero tolerance policy for the enforcement of E-verify.
The law is already on the books. Jack up the employer penalty to $5000.00 per offence. We love the illeagals. Not laying a hand on them, or saying a word.

Then you motherfuckers will understand the term " self- deport" . Ha!

Then get the lazy EBT FSA to start doing some work. Or starve.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 13:18 | 6539695 ZD1
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Don't forget to turn off the welfare spigot and stop the anchor baby scam...

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:10 | 6539816 kaiserhoff
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Agree completely,

  but when was it reduced from $10,000 per offense?

Enforce the laws.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:47 | 6539482 Sanity Bear
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He was going to use the German taxpayer to get his teeth fixed.

 

The smuggling profits were for his own pocket only.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:57 | 6539639 carlnpa
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Fine the employer of the illegal $10,000 a day, for every day they were employed.

Offer the snitch that turns them in 50% finders fee.

Every fucking illegal will be gone by the end of the day.

No families broken up, no draconiain purge.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 13:23 | 6539711 NoPension
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It's really that simple.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:49 | 6539486 l8apex
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The only thing that Mexico is capable of putting together is a good cheesy + spicy burrito.  Don't be an idiot.  Please.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:58 | 6539508 Pure Evil
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I thought their specialty was Montezuma's revenge.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 16:30 | 6540167 robertocarlos
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MASA already put an Orca on the Moon. And it only cost 200 dollars. 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:26 | 6539312 Mr Poopra
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Good link.  STG is a patriot.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:26 | 6539313 MalteseFalcon
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Since the cover story was exposed as shit, we now have this cover story.  It is also shit.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:31 | 6539324 MalteseFalcon
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"Westerners have easy access to information. That is, if the US public cared to know what was going on outside of suburbia and beyond the Starbucks drive-throughs and the strip mall Targets they most certainly could find out, but that would likely mean discovering all manner of really inconvenient and often disturbing things and so, at the end of the day, willful ignorance allows everyone to perpetuate the myth that everything is fine."

Westerners know everything is not fine.  They know that their ability to change things is quite limited.  Westerners have easy access to bogus, manipulative information, but little access to truth.  It is planned this way by the powerful.

The story of the little boy is a set up, start to finish.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:08 | 6539531 Whoa Dammit
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About half the people in the US today don't seem to have the reasoning power of a squirrel. I don't know if its the water, big pharma, GMO's, etc. or what, but people here are a whole lot stupider these days.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 13:04 | 6539652 Never One Roach
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O'Bama, Pelosi and Reed and their buddy Gruber counted on American stupidity to pass the Obamacare Tax Bill as Gruber himself openly admits. 

 

They succeeded 100%.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 13:40 | 6539756 Booked
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All it takes to have a population with the reasoning power of a squirrel is to indoctrinate them in an amoral system which constantly hammers home to them the idea that whatever government does is right and good for them, and whatever impulses their own thinking and feeling provide are only products of their own debased and selfish desires.  Works like a champ; all they have to do is parrot the party line and they're safe--until they aren't.  Whatever happened to the epithet, "conformist", delivered with a sneer?

 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 17:05 | 6540236 MalteseFalcon
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Half of the USA has an IQ below 100 almost by definition.

How much of anything can these people figure out?

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 09:53 | 6541823 Sokhmate
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It's the water actually. There is an abundant amount of the elements Absurdium and Gullibillium, with just as dangerous levels of Pussifium floride and Boobtivium nitrates. There's another dozen or so of similar elements and compounds i don't remember off the top of my head

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:34 | 6539327 Thick Willy
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Duh.  I actually doubt the kid died at all.  That's the real scandal here.  This was just a bull shit propaganda ploy.

"Hey let's find a cute young kid and pretend he died because Europeans won't let hundreds of millions of shitskins and mudslimes into Europe and pay for them for life like house pets."

Obvious anti-white propaganda pushed by the usual suspects that own all media.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:42 | 6539341 Mr Poopra
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The boy certainly died.  There is footage of media fishing him out of the water and positioning his corpse in the most emotionally compelling pose.  Animals.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:50 | 6539362 Motasaurus
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I agree. The boy died, a sacrifice for some higher goal. 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:02 | 6539516 Freddie
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How many children did McCain, Obola, Bibi, Erdogan, MIC/ZIC, Yats, Nudelman, Porky and ZATO kill today?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 13:28 | 6539718 Rodent Free Corps
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Less than ISIS. 

Less than all the corruption in all the third world shitholes. 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:47 | 6539931 L Bean
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Moronic.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:09 | 6539532 Pure Evil
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How do you know for sure?

Were you over there?

Did you actually see the child or touch it?

I've seen some dolls that look extremely life like.

If the story is falling apart at this point, all parts of the propaganda campaign are now suspect.

Wouldn't doubt someone eventually finds the wife and kids somewhere in Turkey or Iraq.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 13:46 | 6539772 Booked
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You think "a sacrifice for some higher goal" is what Larry Silverstein had on his mind?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 16:10 | 6540126 TBT or not TBT
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Like a space monkey, sacrificed for the greater good.  Fight Club people.  

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:37 | 6539328 Monetas
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A blast furnace melts iron ore into steel with coal .... a blacksmith can melt steel with wood and bellows .... the molten metal was concurrent with hundreds of tons of molten plastic .... the draft of convection up the twin towers .... was a blast furnace .... a bucket of kerosene on fire won't melt steel .... but a blast furnace surely will !

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:39 | 6539338 agent default
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Wait.

Wat?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:48 | 6539361 RaceToTheBottom
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Wait, if that was true, then, then, then where's the grassy knoll?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:00 | 6539510 TBT or not TBT
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It's always been the gnarly grass behind these conspiracy theories.   

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 15:26 | 6540043 ebear
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grassy troll

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:20 | 6539557 LawsofPhysics
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Okay, now what about building 7?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 18:22 | 6540391 Wile-E-Coyote
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Physics wasn't your strong point at school, was it?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:44 | 6539353 Thick Willy
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Ugh, it's just more 9/11 truther nonsense.  Muslims did 9/11.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:58 | 6539507 Max Steel
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Thick redneck cunt.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:42 | 6539348 Normalcy Bias
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This is why you NEVER let Gilligan pilot the boat.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:05 | 6539814 Flagit
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He's fine as a pilot, just don't let him clean the compass.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:01 | 6539802 NeoRandian
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I've seen a few drowned bodies. That image of that kid is not an image of a drowned body, it is an image of a kid that got wet and laid face down. He isn't even dead.

Where are the images of the funeral?

Why is the child's stomach not bloated from ingesting sea water?

Why is the child's skin so pink and healthy?

How long was this kid supposed to be in the water for, again?

But hey, congress critters get to wave this photo around while demanding what $5 billion for a new program to resettle Syrian refugees? And how much of the slush money will go right through NGO hands back into the congress critters' reelection campaigns?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:21 | 6539303 junction
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Abdullah Kurdi, human trafficker, is now shown to be a liar and a total incompetent.  He has all the qualifications to run for President of the United States, just like Obummer.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:04 | 6539393 MsCreant
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How fucked up are you that your kid just died and you are running around telling everyone to lie so you won't get into trouble. Liar and incompetent does not cover it if this story is true. This guy has to live with being a COWARD.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:11 | 6539540 Pure Evil
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The whole BIG LIE propaganda story is unraveling.

Don't believe any part of it from start to finish.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:59 | 6539644 Element
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"This guy has to live with being a COWARD."

Just a wild guess but I doubt he's going to feel too tortured by that sort of thing, MsC.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 15:18 | 6540023 sun tzu
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It's all Hollywood to pull at the heartstrings of Europeans and Americans. 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:19 | 6539293 Mr Poopra
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Oh God, it just keeps getting worse.  The boy is innocent, seeing this photo regardless of the political context turns my stomach.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:36 | 6539323 two hoots
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Sensationalism tied with emotional news unfortuantely stirs many.  They react without concern to facts/truth because it fits our new found liberal ideals and shallow feel good opinions.  There is no patients to wait on truth, just react.  The trouble comes when our government reacts similarly.

 

 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:52 | 6539492 trader1
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actually it's the other way around.

Emotionalism tied with sensational news...

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:42 | 6539603 Pure Evil
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And, that more than likely someone in the government is behind the whole fabricated story.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:57 | 6539959 Chris Dakota
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Victoria Nudleman

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 17:40 | 6540301 trader1
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someone said it best over at reddit:

Why would a smuggler bring his whole family with him on a run? Doesn't make sense.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 15:06 | 6539985 sun tzu
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What makes you think the boy is really dead? I don't put it beneath the NWO to stage the whole thing

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 15:29 | 6540051 ebear
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He's not dead. He's resting.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 16:55 | 6540226 Implied Violins
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He was pining for the fjords. Unfortunately, he made it.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 18:46 | 6540454 sun tzu
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All those media photogs and cameramen just happened to be there when his parents found him on the beach

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:15 | 6539294 Thirtyseven
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It's always nice when the truth comes out.  Will this be mentioned on MSNBC or FOX?  Probably not, but if it is it'll only be a single, unemphasized mention during a non-peak viewing period.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:17 | 6539549 corsair
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The quotes are form Reuters and The Daily Telegraph.

What makes you so sure that this is the truth?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 13:20 | 6539702 Sanity Bear
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because the info came out in the alt media first while the MSM was still pimping the "sad refugee" story

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:01 | 6539804 corsair
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I've seen a lot of stories in alt media that never get published in MSM.

Why is MSM now pimping the "crooked refugee" story?

Could it be that it fits their agenda.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:39 | 6539296 Pool Shark
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Not only was he a coyote, he wasn't seeking asylum; he just wanted free dental work:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/image-of-syrian-boy-washed-up-on-beach-hits-hard-1441282847

 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 13:06 | 6539658 Never One Roach
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Gee, I'd like free dental work too.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:21 | 6539297 q99x2
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Obama Osama Bin Laden

Obama oh mama good doggin.

Le feif la doe eeny meeny miney moe

The cow  ran away  joggin.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:17 | 6539298 Chuck Knoblauch
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He probably killed his own son for the photo, and the money for the photo.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:35 | 6539330 Thick Willy
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The mother will have 10+ more children in Europe that will all be paid for by Europeans so why not?  Means to an end. Can't make an omlette without breaking a few eggs.  Life means nothing to soulless non-whites.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:43 | 6539337 Chuck Knoblauch
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Where is the child's mother?

Did he kill her too?

A new life for daddy only?

I don't agree with the non-whites remark.

Zionist pig.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:47 | 6539359 Thick Willy
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Women are completely irrelevant in non-white, non-feminist societies.  Just baby factories.  She will be only one among his many wives now that he will be a rich "European" Muslim man.  And I don't give a fuck if you agree with me.  All non-whites are soulless animals and I only have to look at their behavior and the nations they have created to know the truth of this statement.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:58 | 6539379 Chuck Knoblauch
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Many of the whites, excluding myself, are stupid.

Those who control the media are white.

Your own race is setting you up for slaughter.

It works for all races.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:37 | 6539456 TongueStun
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Chuck, do some homework BEFORE posting.....The Socialist Zionist Jews who control the media do not consider themselves to be white. Whites are GOYIM.....useless idiots put on earth to serve their Zio-Jew masters.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:42 | 6539467 Chuck Knoblauch
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I'm not an absolutist like you, so I don't agree with you.

There are Jews who are evil, anf Jews who are good.

The evil Jews control the media.

Many good Jews are stupid.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:00 | 6539511 Mr Poopra
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An important distinction, Chuck.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:13 | 6539529 TongueStun
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Chuck, you ASSume a lot from just one post, like  ASSuming I think all Jews are alike.

 

Socialist jews control the media, jews who have abandoned their religion for $$$$$....the MoneyChangers....just like the FED

 

It is true that Socialist Jews do not consider themselves white. Do your homework, boy.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:26 | 6539571 Chuck Knoblauch
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I only see good and evil.

I'm blind to the container.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 13:34 | 6539735 NoPension
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So, if a tiger approaches you, you'll wait around to see if you are lunch?

NOBODY is blind to the container. It's instinct. Now, you can train yourself, or be manipulated to be blind . But that's unnatural.

There are "places" you won't go. Fly over to the ME, and find some " nice" ISIS dudes. They ALL can't be bad.

I'm not trying to beat you up. It's a noble pursuit. We are just a few thousand generations away from that reality.

Wanna get along? Find a common enemy. We all stuck together on 9/12/01. Right now, ILLEAGAL fucking invaders to our soveirgn country works for me. I'll line up up with anybody native born to fix that. Anchor citizens don't count.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 15:21 | 6540034 Chuck Knoblauch
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I'm unnatural.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 15:00 | 6539966 Chris Dakota
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They are white when it suits their needs.

Also lately they claim not to be Jews.

Guess what Bobby Fisher said about Jews is about to come true.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:10 | 6539829 NeoRandian
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That's how nature intended it, sorry. Men and women are different, and not just in the brain but in the whole body. When women start trying to be men, you get mass abortion for the 'unwanted' babies and the babies that are 'wanted' end up totally fucked up psychologically. You also get men turned into total cucks that can't defend their families from the invading hordes of 'uncivilized' real men.

Find me some cases of autism in peoples that haven't 'modernized'.

Feminism is the suicide of civilization. You may see a short term boost in production from having more women in the labor force and more competition between identities. But over the long term you've ruined your culture and generations of offspring.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:19 | 6539857 Skateboarder
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Dawg, you need an equality vaccine.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 18:25 | 6540398 Wile-E-Coyote
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You are a simplistic mother fucker.

 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:18 | 6539300 hotrod
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I sure hope the main stream media run this story.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:21 | 6539304 thunderchief
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Someone should tell Europe these people are not European. 

As tough a pill as that may be to swallow. 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:24 | 6539310 Thirtyseven
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The Judeo-Bolsheviks have thoroughly convinced Europeans to commit cultural, demographic, and ethnic suicide. 

The 'why' is perhaps open to debate and speculation, but the fact that this is occurring is simply irrefutable.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:37 | 6539332 Thick Willy
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European pacifist socialists are so brainwashed they are literally marching gleefully to their own extinction.  There is no saving these people and you literally cannot convince them that they are wrong.  You can't convince them that Islam isn't equal to or superior to Christianity.  You can't convince them that Western culture is superior to other cultures.  You can't convince them that their nations, ways of life, and standards of living will change as they flood their nations with tens of millions of illiterate, diseased, violent subhumans.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:00 | 6539512 Kickaha
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What makes a particular culture "superior"?

According to your genes, the foremost purpose of your life is to procreate and raise young children to the age when they can also procreate.  If so, it would appear that the culture which is invading Europe right now is superior to the one which has inhabited that land for millenia, a culture which has degenerated into one where its people worship money and an easy life, both of which are not possible to have if you bring a lot of kids into the world and then devote all of your money, time, and energy into raising them.

Your argument is self-contradictory.  You assert that European culture is superior, but then, on the other hand, you moan that they are collectively dumber than slop and willingly assisting with their own eventual demise.  You can't have it both ways.

As to which culture is superior, time will tell.  

But I would agree with you that it makes no sense to proactively set up cultural Death Cage match within the borders of your own nation, unless, perhaps, you are so mesmerized by your own hubris that you cannot imagine the demise of your own way of life.  It is idiotic for a culture to willingly invite a vastly different culture into its midst.  I suppose if you really believe in the "melting pot" theory, what could possibly go wrong?  On the other hand, I've seen what happens when you toss a chunk of sodium into a bucket of water.

The "melting pot' meme came into existence when millions of white, Christian Europeans immigrated to America, a mostly white, Christion nation created by the sons and daughters of the original European immigrants.  Right now, I have the image of one of those Staples "Easy" buttons in my mind's eye.

In counterpoint, look at the trouble caused by the involutary importation to America of millions of black, non-Christian Africans.  That experience should create many questions about the validity of the "melting pot" idea.  Here we are, two or three centuries later, trying to force assimilation via a multitude of laws which have created more anger and resentment than any effective merging of cultures.

The humanitarian impulse that underlies the theory of the welfare state will once again prove that no good deed goes unpunished.

 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:39 | 6539591 Thirtyseven
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Good set up there Kickaha, as it forces us to really think about and consider what our current beliefs are.  We all know the score though, without a White civilization there will be NO significant bastion of civilization anywhere on this planet.

 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:50 | 6539943 Kickaha
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I will reflexively agree, without much forethought, that Western Civilization and culture presently represent the finest of what the human race has to offer posterity.  Then some afterthoughts nag me.  Western civilization includes such ideas as central banking, fractional reserve lending, and the glorification of obscene wealth.  I have to really try very hard not to think of Western Civilization in terms of only the good things it has to offer.  Part of our jWestern culture is the general idea that small families are better.  This ties in with the idea that resources are getting scarcer and more expensive to extract and deliver, and the undeniable truth that planet Earth has a limited carrying capacity no matter what level of miraculous technology gets applied to solve the Malthusian dilemma.  Personally, I resolved to have two kids.  The house I raised them in had previously been occupied by a ethnic Arab family with eight children.  I'm pretty sure that the birth rates in most European nations are below replacement rates, probably for both economic and philosophical reasons.

It is quite a Catch-22.  If you don't pump out babies at an insanely rapid rate, your kind will diminish over the centuries relative to other kinds who treat their women as baby factories and who still believe it is God's command "to go forth and multiply".  It helps that such beliefs support the idea that men should get their rocks off as much as possible and have multiple wives.

In different times, too many babies meant death and extreme poverty for the tribes, villages, cities and countries with limited space and resources, and the more prosperous parts of the world paid little attention to third-world misery.  It was over there, and not here, out of sight and out of mind.  It seems that travel has become a lot easier, media more expansive, and national borders less of a barrier, and that the misery and poverty is being allowed to flow towards social welfare like water downhill.

In the past, Arab culture was at least equal to if not greater than European culture.  The Chinese could make a good argument along the same lines.  I think we have the superior culture now, but I'm sure that Ozymandias felt exactly the same way.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:19 | 6539855 NeoRandian
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They'll march to the brink of extinction and no further. These things are cyclical, the mark of modernism. Decadence will reach a peak, then people will start to wonder just why things are so curiously disastered despite all the supposed progress.

"Why," they will ask, "is everyone's lives so shit when technology has come so far? Why can we put men on the moon, send satellites to the furthest reaches of space, put libraries of information in the palm of your hand, but for some reason cannot house our own people? Why do we allow economic conditions that prevent us from reproducing, even as we insist on importing the poor and unskilled from the lands of our historical enemies to fill the labor gap?"

The night is darkest before the dawn. Then there comes a time of auspicious renewal.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:25 | 6539311 roadhazard
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I thought Obama killed the boy while on vacation. Make up your mind.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:42 | 6539347 Sudden Debt
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a stray golfball...

 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:03 | 6539518 TongueStun
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Was the boy Sodomized? If so "Obama mite bee da suspeck"

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:27 | 6539316 LawsofPhysics
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Karma...

Same as it ever was...

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:54 | 6539499 trader1
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Karma for what?

Providing a service to allow other humans to escape to safer pastures?

 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:22 | 6539561 LawsofPhysics
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What were the safeguards he had in place to insure safe passage?

 

Guess you are okay with "businesses" that kill people, nice asshat.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 17:37 | 6540294 trader1
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are you ok with your indirect killing of other sentient beings?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 12:19 | 6539545 Ness.
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Karma is the crane (instrument of the white devil) falling on Mecca on 9/11.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 13:38 | 6539748 NoPension
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Damn that place is a perfect spot if I ever saw one. Make it bigger.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:29 | 6539318 Usurious
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its all jewish propaganda........

'This victim was not just the victim of these Red Army men, reduced to base animal instinct and mentality, but she was also the victim of an ideology inspired by Judaism and a Jewish propagandist named Ilya Ehrenburg'

https://chechar.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/hellstorm-book-review/

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:33 | 6539326 bahaar
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Kurdi being a smuggler is only a small detail.  Doesn't change the enormity of the tragedy that's Syria.  It's  a bloody shame that Islamic countries (Turkey, Qatar, Saudis) would do this all the while crying about how the world ill-treats muslims, is just unbelievable.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:37 | 6539333 withglee
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That’s what happened in 2013 when YouTube videos appeared to show the victims of a so-called “gas attack” that Bashar al-Assad decided, apparently out of the clear blue sky, to launch on his own people even though were the story true, it would seem to have been a rather peculiar strategy given that the strongman was fully aware that the US was just waiting on an excuse to launch a few cruise missiles.

"given that the strongman ... "

The guy's an ophthalmologist folks!

Think this might be a marker?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:37 | 6539335 djsmps
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You can bet the HuffPost won't be covering this story.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:40 | 6539462 TongueStun
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I'd bet that NONE of the socialist jew media will cover it.....Qatar needs that pipeline to Europe, so the socialist jew FED can fuck over the Rooskies for selling oil in other currencies.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:02 | 6539344 Chuck Knoblauch
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These loving and kind refugees are killing their own for a new life.

You don't believe in evil.

LOL

Sheep to slaughter.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:37 | 6539889 NeoRandian
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"These loving and kind refugees are killing their own for a new life."

As if that doesn't occur en masse in the West. In 40 years, Americans have aborted nearly 60 million babies and have imported nearly that many immigrants to fill the labor gap.

"Someone has to do the dirty work, but I'll be damned if it is going to be my children!" say the women of the West.

"Aborting our way to prosperity" has been the general theme of the contemporary West. Lets kill our babies so that immigrant can have a better life by replacing them.

How many women exactly are living a better life thanks to killing their babies? How many exactly see an increased income from sacrificing their young to Mammon? And how does one value the death of the unborn relative to general human dignity?

I haven't even touched the issue of birth control. America is missing at least 100 million Americans, just so the ones living can *supposedly* have a better life, which is defined of course as having fancier clothes, a nicer car and sexier body, a house with a few extra empty rooms, and extra servings of diabetes-fuel. A worse life of course is defined as having more children than one can 'properly' raise.

Yes, I believe in evil, and it is currently the occupant of the most powerful nations in history. The sheep are slaughtering themselves.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:41 | 6539345 Sudden Debt
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This entire story is to numb down people's feelings about the refugees.

First they create the Titanic moment where everybody cries...

Then they show the making off...

And then they Show Leonardo sniffing blow with 3 hookers in his lap.

 

Even this news is all part of the hoax.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:41 | 6539346 withglee
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And indeed, maybe someone was trying, because as Reuters reports, the drowned child’s father might not have been a fleeing migrant after all, but rather a people smuggler and Aylan might have been on the boat not because his family intended to save their child from the horrific violence escalating daily in Syria, but rather because profiting off of other people’s misery was his father’s chosen profession and he often brought his family along for the ride.

"... he often brought his family along for the ride"

Yeh ... right!

Why did WTC7 fall down?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:44 | 6539350 Monetas
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No Muslim refugees going to Russia, Iran nor the richest Muslim countries .... they long for the Judeo/Christian western countries .... wouldn't you ? 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:40 | 6539895 NeoRandian
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It always makes me laugh that the "Judeo" always comes before the "Christian" in that formulation...

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 14:48 | 6539935 Monetas
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It's not an alphabetic order for socialist minds ..... the Jooish religion predates Christianity .... and they both predate Islam .... which is only a religion in the 7th century sense .... and even then it was a throwback war cult .... so, does it still make you laugh, simple fuck ?

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 00:59 | 6541296 Boxed Merlot
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the Jooish religion predates Christianity...

 

Not exactly.  Consider: "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God...And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us…”  John 1: 1ff

Or consider the fact that Jesus claim to the office of High Priest predates Jacob / Israel and his sons including Levi as his priesthood is traced through Melchizidek who was the priest Abraham gave a tenth of the spoils to from a conflict he had with several kings when he chased down and rescued his kin that they’d taken captive in a raid. (Genesis 14)

…“So also Christ did not glorify Himself to become High Priest, but it was He who said to Him:  ‘You are My Son, today I have begotten You.’   As He also says in another place:  “You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek”   who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear, though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered.”  

“And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him,  called by God as High Priest “according to the order of Melchizedek,”  of whom we have much to say, and hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing.”

 “For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food…”  Hebrews 5:5-12

 

And that’s the sermon for the week.  I’ll brace for the down stuff now.

 

Jmo.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:44 | 6539351 RaceToTheBottom
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I would not be surprised if the media was driving the boat.

 

 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:43 | 6539472 TongueStun
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Which media? The right wing Christian media? The Old order Amish media? The Muslim dominated press?

 

Don't people know which TWO PERCENT OF THE POPULATION  controls 90% of the media?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 15:07 | 6539986 withglee
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Don't people know which TWO PERCENT OF THE POPULATION  controls 90% of the media?

First percentage probably too high. second percentage probably too low.

That not withstanding, I have become part of the media. Any time someone wants to engage me about current events (as spoon fed to them by the media) I ask them to first participate in my poll.

I show them a video of WTC7 falling down. I ask them to tell me what they're looking at. So far, 14 our of 186 have known about WTC7 ... less than 8%. I then ask them why their source of information has left them uninformed about that ... and why we should discuss the current event they were bringing up.

I encourage everyone to become part of the media in this same way. I'll bet you see the exact same results ... and get the exact same reactions ... that I have.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 10:48 | 6539360 Monetas
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Most blast furnaces are a couple of hundred feet high or so .... the twin towers were 1,000 foot high blast furnaces .... you could have melted steel burning pig shit !

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:03 | 6539380 withglee
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you could have melted steel burning pig shit !

US Steel has to be excited to learn about that. They've been spending all kinds of money on oxygen and natural gas ... and pig shit and a 1000' tower would have worked just as well?

Revolutionary.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:19 | 6539423 Monetas
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Well, we're not talking surgical steel .... but, why has it taken so long to debunk .... the "you can't melt steel over a burning bucket of kerosene" stoooopidity .... you´ve believed in for 15 years, Brainchild ?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 11:45 | 6539476 Monetas
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Well, we´re not talking surgical steel .... but why has it taken so long to debunk .... the "you can't melt steel" over a burning bucket of kerosene bullshit .... you´ve believed in for 15 years, Brainchile ?

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