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"Psychopaths Are Running The World" Former US Marine Blows Whistle On Syrian False Flag, Exposes Real Agenda

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Submitted by Sophie McAdam via TrueActivist.com,

"All of these players, these politicians are nothing more than puppets, they don't serve the people there is no real democracy, they serve the rich and powerful who run the world and that would be the bankers who control the money supply. The bankers make huge amounts of money....wars are great for them and ultimately they control the politicians.

 

Psychopaths are running the world."

Ken O’ Keefe is a former US Marine turned anti-war campaigner who appeared on a Press TV debate called Syria: War of Deception, and absolutely owned his opponent in such an awesome way that you’ll be cheering at his every comment.

 

Recorded in August 2013, this interview is now two years old, but in light of the current European refugee crisis it’s more relevant today than ever before. Passionate, articulate and knowledgeable about the subject matter, O’Keefe is the perfect guy to step up and tell these home truths- and boy, does he do a good job. 

This guy nails so many crucial points about the Syria situation in one interview, he’ll have you jumping around and punching the ceiling.

“We have tortured and killed and maimed and raped around this planet; who in their right mind would consider the United States or the West in general to be in any position to punish anybody?” the veteran begins angrily, going on to outline the evidence for Syria being a false flag attack (Note: leaked emails showing how Assad was framed by the USA are detailed in this cached Daily Mail report from January 2013, which was published online briefly before being removed).

He rightly points out that the USA dropped more bombs in Vietnam than during the whole of WW2 combined, that it regularly arms terrorists (but the mainstream press refer to them as ‘freedom fighters’ when it suits them) and the former marine also points out how the so-called ‘War on Terror’ is nothing more than a well-planned strategy to be in a “perpetual state of war to destabilize the region for the Greater Israel plan.”

“We don’t operate under international law; we have the law of the jungle in which the rich and powerful basically determine what goes and what doesn’t go.” O’Keefe shouts. He correctly points out that Bush and Blair would be “rotting in prison cells” if the law were administered equally to all, or even “executed if their own rules were applied to their own crimes“. He also acknowledges that these men are nothing more than puppets who “serve rich and powerful bankers who control the money supply.”

O’Keefe rants about the hypocrisy of the West, who are arming terrorist organizations in the name of ‘freedom’ for civilians in geo-politically strategic countries while turning a blind eye to vile human rights abuses in countries like Saudi Arabia. The only people who still fall for all this crap, O’Keefe passionately points out, are “bought-off prostitutes [our politicians] or the dumbest of the dumb.”

In short, this is a video you should consider sharing with anyone you know who is still under the illusion that the USA and Britain are doing good in the world, anyone who doesn’t believe the ‘conspiracy theory’ that 9/11 (or Syria, or Libya, or Afghanistan or Iraq) were not orchestrated attacks to further a sinister long-term goal of controlling the Middle East, and anyone who believes that the desperate refugees fleeing these countries we have systematically destroyed have no right to seek help from their oppressors in Europe and North America- after all, without Western imperialism, we wouldn’t have any refugees in the first place (more on that here).

Ken O’Keefe renounced US citizenship in 2001 and now holds Irish, Hawaiian & Palestinian citizenship. He says on his blog: “My ultimate allegiance is to my entire human family and to planet Earth.”

Well said.

 

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Sat, 09/12/2015 - 20:51 | 6540769 bigdumbnugly
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well yeah.......

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:00 | 6540788 knukles
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Ignore the Conspiracy Theorists.  They try to have you make believe lies and untruths and will make you crazy.  Best thing to do is wear a tin foil hat to block the radio waves and alien voices.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:21 | 6540844 CaptainAmerika
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eat your propaganda and be happy

http://www.philiacband.com/propaganda.html

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:28 | 6540875 mvsjcl
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As another fellow marine who got the hell out of that country, I salute you.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:44 | 6540896 Ignatius
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O'Keefe 2016

"Psychopaths are running the World"

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:02 | 6540948 TSA Thug
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This guys Cuckoo. Didn't they experiment on marines with injections and aerosols?

Why does he have a Canadian accent?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:07 | 6540963 Cornfedbloodstool
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Yeah he's a real hero. Killing people for a living now he has a conscience. It's ridiculous. May he burn in hell.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:17 | 6540989 quintago
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Interesting link RE the Israeli art students. Actually everytime I see an Israeli in a mall pedaling a sea salt or some other BS, I know it reeks of some sort of Mossad front. Why do you need to import Israelis to peddle sea salt and cosmetics, and they are in every mall.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:31 | 6541024 Nassim
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Where is this link?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 23:43 | 6541098 Manthong
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I guess this means we don’t have God on our side anymore..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_duPtoJgWP4

edit: Oh, thank goodness.. at least someone thinks we do.
There is hope for change after all.
Is this a great country or what?

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 00:01 | 6541187 cornflakesdisease
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God was never on the USA side.  Satan owns it lock stock and barrel.  Humans fired God 6,000 years ago.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 06:33 | 6541579 VinceFostersGhost
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We created ISIS dumbass.....and he has more flexibility with Putin since the last election.

 

One more thing, if you're gonna call anyone a fag.......I don't think you really want to go there.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 08:56 | 6541742 Enki Anu
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Jones River dies in aroutine surgery one month after she says in an interview that Obozo is a fag And Michele ( Michael ) is a transgender .

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 10:55 | 6541963 WordSmith2013
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Psychopathic Players and Cynical Moves
Guarantee a Future of Perpetual War

http://cosmicconvergence.org/?p=11285

"Explosive Presentation Hosted by the
Chicago Council on Global Affairs Reveals

What No Government Official, No
Political Representative, No NGO Executive

or Think Tank Director Has Ever Said
Before in Public"

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 14:46 | 6542718 Dizzy Malscience
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“we don’t have God on our side anymore”

Understand this…

We did indeed have “natures God” on our side when the Constitution was penned and the founders used the natural law philosophies of Aristotle, Hobbes, Locke, Adam Smith and others in an attempt to limit government and prevent the tyranny that governments and bankers all regress towards.

Once the politicians and bankers got settled in, it has been all downhill from there.

This government and society has degenerated into the monster the founders most feared.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk3sURDS4IA

 

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 19:03 | 6543800 J S Bach
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O'Keefe is a courageous man... whether you agree with him or not.  That alone should earn him respect.  (Oh, and by the way... he IS right.)

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 06:34 | 6541580 TongueStun
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Pretty Bird, what a stupid comment.....it's shills like you here who called me an anti-semite for saying the exact same things....Name callers always lash out when confronted with the truth.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 08:27 | 6541708 Took Red Pill
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This marine's other video is good also;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM2Fi1rhYqc

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 10:51 | 6541950 WordSmith2013
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STRATFOR Chief Reveals Zio-Anglo-American Plot For World Domination

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=22223 

"Global Geopolitical Chessboard:
Psychopathic Players and Cynical Moves
Guarantee a Future of Perpetual War"


Sun, 09/13/2015 - 13:40 | 6542566 Otrader
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I thought Putin was the anti-fag.   The orthodox christians are not very fag friendly in Russia.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 09:13 | 6541765 OneHorseCarriage
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Cornflakesdisease, I feel sorry for your cat.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 00:04 | 6541202 TeethVillage88s
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Look Elites train in martial arts and also... Jews train for war and warfare.

So, people should now the Liberal Culture is false.

Liberal contributors are training for being tough, for scalping Gentiles, for confronting victims, and for mass unrest.

- Why would they not when history has shown that usury drives people crazy when they become poor??

- Are you going to become violent in a Pawn Shop?

- You don't think Banks & Pawn Shops have protection and security?

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 01:29 | 6541341 conscious being
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The security around banks is an inverse corelation with the perceived legitmacy they have.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 18:17 | 6543597 Pickleton
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"and raped "

 

really?  Interestingly enough, this media haaaaaates our military and would delight in exposing all these rapes.  Why have I not heard of all these tens of thousands of rapes?  Dude weakens his rant by tossing that shit around.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 02:54 | 6541313 Paveway IV
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I vote for this link of Gerald Shea's Memo being the most interesting regarding the Israeli art students. It's a 166 pg. pdf file in which Shea links the Israeli 'Art Students' to the 9/11 hijackers. If you want the one-picture summary of the entire document, scroll down to pg. 166 and check out the labels on the map. The preceeding 165 pages just detail that.

This is antiwar.com's background blurb on the memo.

"...Why do you need to import Israelis to peddle sea salt and cosmetics, and they are in every mall..."

Hmmm... Mossad runs out of H1B visas pretty quickly, so they send recruits here on B2 tourist visas to improve their English skills. Selling junk is a good way to interact with the natives and hear a variety of accents. They're not spying YET - they're planning on working in intelligence when they get back.  They're just interacting with their future electronic surveilance assignments and developing an ear for English. Mall kiosks are ideal because they can easily be set up by one of Mossad's dual-citizen pals, the employees require almost no training and they can rotate people through them quickly without suspicion (a B2 is only good for a couple of months, I think). And just like the supposed Israeli 'art students', selling stuff or otherwise working on a B2 isn't allowed. No big deal because the worst that happens is they get busted by ICE and deported, but they're going back anyways.

But that's all just crazy talk. Sea salt is hot right now - there's a lot of money in it!

[update: It looks like The Dead Sea Company carts/employemnt are a scam in several ways, but serve to launder Israeli Organized Crime money back into Israel. The returning employees act as mules and carry just under the $10,000 reportable limit back with them for the Israeli Mafia.Same with Israeli 'art students' and moving companies. Details here Color me surprised!]

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 05:04 | 6541521 cheech_wizard
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They've been doing that for years... like for at least 15 years now. Which is when I ran into an Israeli woman in a mall selling exactly wht you describe.

Standard Disclaimer: She was hot, and the product was rather good. As for the Mossad angle, spies come in a multitude of varieties.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 22:33 | 6544591 zhandax
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The B2 visa scam  has been going on for at least 35 years.  My ex-wife came over for the Lake Placid Olympics and just kinda forgot to go home.  She was a French model, and there wasn't a lot of demand to get rid of her until she decided to be the ex.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 11:11 | 6542018 Benjamin123
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Because the workers get recruited in Israel by the salt people. Perhaps they are willing to work for less and live in dismal conditions in the US for a limited time while they save money. Gringos costs too much and israelis are good, pushy salesmen as it is. They will abuse you until you buy just to make it stop, and not give a fuck.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 23:56 | 6541180 fukidontknow
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@Cornfedbloodstool

 

After I strayed, I repented; after I came to understand, I beat my breast. I was ashamed and humiliated because I bore the disgrace of my youth.

 

-Jeremiah

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 00:37 | 6541214 Vincent.Vega
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> Yeah he's a real hero. Killing people for a living now he has a conscience. It's ridiculous. May he burn in hell.

 

1) US Army just doesn't function like that and _most_ US marines do not kill anyone, but rather guard military bases or protect officials on their trips to war zones; as a matter of fact, USA military personnel usually flee from any situation with a large number of casualties.

Again, there is a typical confusion and misunderstanding of the US military doctrine involved. The US Army never fights the enemy of equal strength (and you can't fight the rest of the world all at the same time anyway), but tortures underdeveloped nations, so US troops have rarely been in a direct contact with the enemy (don't forget, the value of life of the Metropolis' citizen can't be compared to that of lower forms of life from the colonies).

2) What's most important in this video is that the marine represents a typical American goyim who understands what's going on, and that lying bold-headed ZOG reptile Larry on the right represents the slaveowners.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 11:00 | 6541987 Benjamin123
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Ken is milking the bleeding heart leftists for their donations. Its all a scam.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 16:28 | 6543134 brucekeller
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What about those youtube videos I saw of soldiers randomly swiss cheezing whole buildings with miniguns?  Or the 1.5 million dead Iraqi civilians since the beginning of our raids?

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 09:04 | 6541754 Redneck Hippy
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And how can you be a citizen of Hawaii if you've renounced U.S. citizenship? Wasn't our President born in Hawaii?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 23:31 | 6541137 The Merovingian
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Whatever the fuck that is, it is not music. Hearing that is equivalent visually of seeing a 450lb woman in a thong (at Walmart, of course). Please stop pushing that shit.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 10:32 | 6541900 Bunghole
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Enjoy the virus

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 09:07 | 6541756 OneHorseCarriage
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Knukles, Your thoughts are infantile and trite. Hope you have prepared.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 18:23 | 6543619 AmericanWarrior
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Right on Knukles, I am retired Special Forces and have 10 years in various combat zones and I can't remember anyone around me or around anyone I ever knew who said they knew of one rape? This guy may deserve praise for his service, but he is just another conspiracy nut spreading his BS to people who do not have a clue what is going on and has no proof to back it up. For that he is a piece of crap for lying on America and disparaging our great military members. He is a disgrace to the Marine Corps and what they stand for. Semper Fi means always faithful and he stabbed not only the Corps in the back, but the whole US Military.

Take care and God bless, respectfully, JEFF

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 19:02 | 6543795 maxwellsdemon
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Where did you serve; in a dress battalion? 

 

"An Army specialist who admitted that he and a group of other U.S. soldiers raped a 14-year-old girl and killed her and her family in an Iraqi village was sentenced to 90 years in prison yesterday, by far the longest sentence for a U.S. soldier in connection with the death of an Iraqi civilian since the war began in 2003."

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/16/AR2006111601685.html

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 19:19 | 6543874 AmericanWarrior
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Unlike you, I served in and with many different combat units. Yes, you have the one, and only one example? Please name any others? As I said, he makes false claims and you attack me. Where did you serve and when? In your mom's basement playing videos games does not count. I earned numerous valor awards to prove where I have been and you have what?

I appreciate your comments, but what you have said proves my point. One rape, however terrible it may be, proves the rule, as that one incident was one out a millions who served and even they could not live with it and gave up the piece of crap who commited the heinous deed. 

So, I can easily stand by my statement. The American military is the most professional and attempts to be the ethical in the history of the world as they fight the most evil scum the world has ever known and to paint the whole US Military with actions of one or a few scumbags shows how much you hate the US.  You would be one of the people who would be crying for them to protect you from those terrorist scumbags who rape and murder on a regular basis. There is no and can be no connection.

Obviously, you are ignorant, an idiot, or both if you do not know what Special Forces is and what they do. Get educated, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Take care and God Bless, Respectfully, JEFF

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 18:23 | 6543621 AmericanWarrior
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Right on Knukles, I am retired Special Forces and have 10 years in various combat zones and I can't remember anyone around me or around anyone I ever knew who said they knew of one rape? This guy may deserve praise for his service, but he is just another conspiracy nut spreading his BS to people who do not have a clue what is going on and has no proof to back it up. For that he is a piece of crap for lying on America and disparaging our great military members. He is a disgrace to the Marine Corps and what they stand for. Semper Fi means always faithful and he stabbed not only the Corps in the back, but the whole US Military.

Take care and God bless, respectfully, JEFF

Mon, 09/14/2015 - 08:53 | 6545549 maxwellsdemon
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The marines are the better behaved toward civillians compared to Army, having modeled their organization and training after the Spartans.   I can't say I'm happy to say this but I know more than 99% of the population about the atrocities committed in the various wars.

Mon, 09/14/2015 - 01:40 | 6544955 Down to Earth T...
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a tin foil hat is actually an antenna to the cosmos and the akasha  :)

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:02 | 6540794 New_Meat
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Semper Fidelis.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 23:28 | 6541135 JimT
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I'm kind of seriously wondering if this video is a fraud. - The guy from Washington doesn't really seem to actually acknowledge the other particiipant in the debate. As if he was interviewed separately and the footage was later edited into a confrontation.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:58 | 6540935 matermaker
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I could only stomach so much of this interview.  Though, I applaud the Tylers for trying to work the psychopaths are in charge angle.  It comes down to this folks.  The planet has gone from 1 billion people from which it took millions of years to accomplish to over 7 billion people, in 100 years.  Think total hockey stick.   We discovered oil when those in the Middle Eas folkst rode camels and lived in tents. 

There is simply no way for the human population to sustain its numbers at this current time, period.   There is only one solution and it's the same solution that every thing from deer to cockleburs abide by.

Just look at the ME.  They have increased their numbers by leigons.  Mostly unemployed young people that grow no food, produce no goods... simply 'own' a patch of land that everybody has a straw in.  You are fooling yourself if you think a great culling isn't coming on.  Those in the middle east are at the top of the list.  In the end, it won't be by man's hand, but by nature's.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:10 | 6540967 matermaker
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We have also not been invaded, as a nation, in over 200 years.  We have been air strafed all of twice.  How many nations have we sent out glorious legions in to?  How many governments have we overthrown?  Why in the hell do you think our troops are such loyal and noble creatures?  This nation has not done anything but play bully and empire for a very long time.  I'm sorry, but if you sign up to join the US military, you have zero capicty of critical thinking.  in it for the free health care, money and college grants, i can handle.   at least then, you admit you're a mercenary.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:26 | 6541009 New_Meat
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We like war as an away-game. - Ned

{and yes, you are in fact sorry}

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:29 | 6541018 matermaker
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children..... shelter..... we're just a shot away.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:47 | 6541060 matermaker
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can down vote me all you like. but, the score is the score.  number of times another army has been on US soil in the last 200 years? zero.  Times we sent soliders to get our way in the world?  actually innumberable.   nobody truly knows.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 01:43 | 6541351 conscious being
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Break out of your dichotomy a little bit. Yes, everything about the US gov., but the propaganda has been thick for decades. Up til recently, few alternate explanations have been available. Life's a journey. You figure things out. Like seeing thru the pervasive US MSM lie. I applaud anyone sho can make that journey, but especially this guy who not onky talks the talk but walks the walk, being an absolute hero in the Marvi Marmara incident. Go back and look at the tapes. Its him.

Lighten up on Kevin or get out on the frontline yourself.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 23:22 | 6541123 manofthenorth
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Japan did invade and occupy Alaska during WWII but they did not get far or last long.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 00:35 | 6541266 Overfed
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Alaska wasn't a state at the time.

Mon, 09/14/2015 - 20:57 | 6548819 Abbie Normal
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Neither was Hawaii but that didn't stop the USA from declaring war.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 00:46 | 6541274 Vincent.Vega
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> We have also not been invaded, as a nation, in over 200 years. 

You touched an important matter here. USA has never been attacked (the Pearl Harbor and 9/11 sacrifice don't count) only for one reason: there is no one else, aside from the owners of the US, willing to wipe goyim nations from the face of this planet

Who cuts the barber's hair? For over 200 years it's been the real Zion, and for over 200 years it's had the War on Terra.

 

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 10:58 | 6541979 Benjamin123
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What about the time Hawaii invaded and annexed the United States?

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 01:10 | 6541314 The_Dude
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Sure seems like Mexico invaded and won....

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 06:15 | 6541564 Otrader
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Weren't we invaded in 1913 and still under their rule?

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 00:04 | 6541201 cornflakesdisease
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Not true.  The earth could support 45 billion people with half the prodcutive land set aside unused based on a comprehensive repot done by Unesco.  It is greed and mismanagement that cause these problems.  National Geographic did a feature article on population 2 years ago that went into depth about such things.  You could fit every human being into Los Angeles county with the feet between them.  Over population is a myth.  It's just that himan's can;t rule themselves successfully.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 00:27 | 6541250 Nexus789
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Are you 12 or something with fantasies? Yes, sure we could all dress in the same drab boiler suits and eat gruel and be one of 45Billion. What a dismal existence. Why gruel? You could not operate the current industrialised food supply chain for a population of 45Billion. A fantasy is changing the way the system works. The reality is that you will NEVER change the allocation of resources as that is how the ‘system’ we have works. Those that run it are incapable of self-reform and more importantly they would not want to give up their power and wealth even in the face of impending collapse. So the Earth will NEVER support 45Billion. The likely outcome is economic collapse and mass starvation of a large percentage of the 7Billion. This assumes that a nuclear war does not break out which if it did would terminate the human race. So the 45Billion is a stupid notion and totally unrealistic.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 09:26 | 6541787 BarkingCat
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Based on what I see when out and about in places where there are a lot of people to observe the die off
cannot come quickly enough.
In reality humans are only marginally smarter that any other mamil on this planet and for all the talk of superior intellect, make the same basic mistakes that other animals make.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 04:38 | 6541505 Blankenstein
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This is just rubbish.  Overpopulation is not a myth.  In 700 years at the current rate of population growth, there will be enough people to occupy every square meter on the earth.  Just like the national debt, the world popluation is growing exponentially.  

 

Also, California is running out of water for its current 39 million inhabitants and they have highly advanced systems to provide and treat water compared with the rest of the world.  How about the immense sewage problems that exist around the world?  665 MILLION Indians defecate in the open.  They leave 100,000 tons of shit in fields, on the edge of the river banks, on the roadsides, etc. each day.   

"Every year, more than 200 million tons of human sewage goes uncollected and untreated, fouling the environment. Each gram of feces can contain 10 million virus particles, 1 million bacteria, 1,000 parasite cysts and 100 parasite eggs, the UN found"

 

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?sid=aErNiP_V4RLc&pid=newsarchive

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 06:29 | 6541575 Dugald
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 They leave 100,000 tons of shit in fields, on the edge of the river banks, on the roadsides, etc. each day.

 That superior look of my shit does not stink, on the face of upper class Indians. 

Waul, three times I have been there; and it stinks; and no amount of burning sandal wood etc will ever cover it..... 

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 10:53 | 6541966 Benjamin123
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Even one is too much.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 12:03 | 6542183 RaceToTheBottom
Sun, 09/13/2015 - 11:06 | 6541996 Benjamin123
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Typical.. Each time i push the 99% of humanity must die meme i get red arrows and accused of kikehedoom. But if a goy says so its kosher. 

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 17:14 | 6543322 wisebastard
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its manufactured lack. the people that run the place dont like the average person and that is the reason the education sucks. that is the reason the US has such a high prison population. and that is the reason it wont get any better

 

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 18:24 | 6543620 Pickleton
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There is simply no way for the human population to sustain its numbers at this current time, period.   There is only one solution and it's the same solution that every thing from deer to cockleburs abide by.

 

As much as I'm all for survival for only those that are willing to work and do so, and stop supporting the 10s of millions of parasites that infest this country, the human population is sustaining itself just fine.  What's that stat - you could fit the entire population in half the US comfortably.

Mon, 09/14/2015 - 01:46 | 6544968 Down to Earth T...
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Agree largely and it is already in motion in various ways and means ! A  major RESET is coming much sooner than most realize. And it will not take place where most think it will , at least not in the beginning. It wiil occur right here in CONTUS and expand to other places instantly. All the pieces are already in place.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 23:28 | 6541138 bluez
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The REAL link. (Not the click-jacked one.):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmQw6CryE9M&feature=youtu.be

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 23:30 | 6541140 bluez
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The Real link. NOT the click-jacked one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmQw6CryE9M&feature=youtu.be

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 03:08 | 6541428 Sir SpeaksALot
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http://thecrowhouse.com/dl/MaxIgan_Dealing_With_Kakistocracy_And_The_Fla...

MId East crisis brilliant explanation here, start at 13 min 44 secs.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 09:00 | 6541750 de3de8
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Is ken still alive?

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 20:51 | 6540770 LetThemEatRand
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The fact that these same guys got away with 9/11 tells us everything we need to know about whether there's anything we can do about it.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 20:58 | 6540781 TeamDepends
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We consider ourselves to be quite informed about said event, but we learned a few things here.http://sgtreport.com/2015/09/911-methodical-deception-rebekah-roth/

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:12 | 6540824 LetThemEatRand
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I watched an interview with her earlier today believe or not.   Some of her conclusions are a bit of a stretch, but mostly it was very, very good.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:41 | 6540900 Save_America1st
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yeah, that was a really good interview.  That shit about the Israelis being allowed to live on the 91st floor of the N. Tower wiring in thousands of detonators was a new one for me...and I thought I had watched, heard and read quite extensively about how this was all set up.  And how she tied in all those people and companies together was pretty fuckin' good too.  I sent that interview out to a lot of people last night and I hope most of them watch it. 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 23:36 | 6541143 LetThemEatRand
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And then there was the van with the twin towers on the side and a plane crashing into them (which I never knew before).  http://www.lostscribemedia.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/911truck7...

 Even the MSM covered it at the time --

 

 

 

According to the police report, one of the passengers told the officers they had been on the West Side Highway in Manhattan "during the incident" — referring to the World Trade Center attack. The driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers, "We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem." The other passengers were his brother Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari.

 

When the men were transferred to jail, the case was transferred out of the FBI's Criminal Division, and into the bureau's Foreign Counterintelligence Section, which is responsible for espionage cases, ABCNEWS has learned.

 

One reason for the shift, sources told ABCNEWS, was that the FBI believed Urban Moving may have been providing cover for an Israeli intelligence operation.

 

After the five men were arrested, the FBI got a warrant and searched Urban Moving's Weehawken, N.J., offices.

 

The FBI searched Urban Moving's offices for several hours, removing boxes of documents and a dozen computer hard drives. The FBI also questioned Urban Moving's owner. His attorney insists that his client answered all of the FBI's questions. But when FBI agents tried to interview him again a few days later, he was gone.

 

Three months later 2020's cameras photographed the inside of Urban Moving, and it looked as if the business had been shut down in a big hurry. Cell phones were lying around; office phones were still connected; and the property of dozens of clients remained in the warehouse.

 

The owner had also cleared out of his New Jersey home, put it up for sale and returned with his family to Israel.

 

‘A Scary Situation’

 

Steven Gordon, the attorney for the five Israeli detainees, acknowledged that his clients' actions on Sept. 11 would easily have aroused suspicions. "You got a group of guys that are taking pictures, on top of a roof, of the World Trade Center. They're speaking in a foreign language. They got two passports on 'em. One's got a wad of cash on him, and they got box cutters. Now that's a scary situation."

 

But Gordon insisted that his clients were just five young men who had come to America for a vacation, ended up working for a moving company, and were taking pictures of the event.

 

The five Israelis were held at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, ostensibly for overstaying their tourist visas and working in the United States illegally. Two weeks after their arrest, an immigration judge ordered them to be deported. But sources told ABCNEWS that FBI and CIA officials in Washington put a hold on the case.

 

The five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of them were placed in solitary confinement for 40 days, and some of them were given as many as seven lie-detector tests.

 

Plenty of Speculation

 

Since their arrest, plenty of speculation has swirled about the case, and what the five men were doing that morning. Eventually, The Forward, a respected Jewish newspaper in New York, reported the FBI concluded that two of the men were Israeli intelligence operatives.

 

Vince Cannistraro, a former chief of operations for counterterrorism with the CIA who is now a consultant for ABCNEWS, said federal authorities' interest in the case was heightened when some of the men's names were found in a search of a national intelligence database.

 

Israeli Intelligence Connection?

 

According to Cannistraro, many people in the U.S. intelligence community believed that some of the men arrested were working for Israeli intelligence. Cannistraro said there was speculation as to whether Urban Moving had been "set up or exploited for the purpose of launching an intelligence operation against radical Islamists in the area, particularly in the New Jersey-New York area."

 

Under this scenario, the alleged spying operation was not aimed against the United States, but at penetrating or monitoring radical fund-raising and support networks in Muslim communities like Paterson, N.J., which was one of the places where several of the hijackers lived in the months prior to Sept. 11.

 

For the FBI, deciphering the truth from the five Israelis proved to be difficult. One of them, Paul Kurzberg, refused to take a lie-detector test for 10 weeks — then failed it, according to his lawyer. Another of his lawyers told us Kurzberg had been reluctant to take the test because he had once worked for Israeli intelligence in another country.

 

Sources say the Israelis were targeting these fund-raising networks because they were thought to be channeling money to Hamas and Islamic Jihad, groups that are responsible for most of the suicide bombings in Israel. "[The] Israeli government has been very concerned about the activity of radical Islamic groups in the United States that could be a support apparatus to Hamas and Islamic Jihad," Cannistraro said.

 

The men denied that they had been working for Israeli intelligence out of the New Jersey moving company, and Ram Horvitz, their Israeli attorney, dismissed the allegations as "stupid and ridiculous."

 

Mark Regev, the spokesman for the Israeli Embassy in Washington, goes even further, asserting the issue was never even discussed with U.S. officials.

 

"These five men were not involved in any intelligence operation in the United States, and the American intelligence authorities have never raised this issue with us," Regev said. "The story is simply false."

 

No ‘Pre-Knowledge’

 

Despite the denials, sources tell ABCNEWS there is still debate within the FBI over whether or not the young men were spies. Many U.S. government officials still believe that some of them were on a mission for Israeli intelligence. But the FBI told ABCNEWS, "To date, this investigation has not identified anybody who in this country had pre-knowledge of the events of 9/11."

 

Sources also said that even if the men were spies, there is no evidence to conclude they had advance knowledge of the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11. The investigation, at the end of the day, after all the polygraphs, all of the field work, all the cross-checking, the intelligence work, concluded that they probably did not have advance knowledge of 9/11," Cannistraro noted.

 

As to what they were doing on the van, they say they read about the attack on the Internet, couldn't see it from their offices and went to the parking lot for a better view. But no one has been able to find a good explanation for why they may have been smiling with the towers of the World Trade Center burning in the background. Both the lawyers for the young men and the Israeli Embassy chalk it up to immature conduct.

 

According to ABCNEWS sources, Israeli and U.S. government officials worked out a deal — and after 71 days, the five Israelis were taken out of jail, put on a plane, and deported back home.

 

While the former detainees refused to answer ABCNEWS' questions about their detention and what they were doing on Sept. 11, several of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home.

 

Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, "The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event."

 

ABCNEWS' Chris Isham, John Miller, Glenn Silber and Chris Vlasto contributed to this report.

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Sun, 09/13/2015 - 07:32 | 6541587 VinceFostersGhost
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PULL IT......two words that will someday rock the world to it's core.

 

You can't explain away building 7.

 

They've already said they demolished it on purpose.....how do you do something like that with a few hours notice?

 

I'll answer the question for you.....you can't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPzAakHPpk

 

PS...bonus question....what did they "pull it" with?

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 10:04 | 6541840 Abaco
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You can't explain the massive concrete support columns vaporizing becasue the floors detached and "pancaked" downwards because of the heat.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 00:05 | 6541206 general ambivalent
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One of the main theorists of fascism suggested that technology had to become an artistic display in the environment. So it makes sense that if these guys wanted to truly show how totalitarian they were they would use these little artistic displays to suggest what was really happening. The van is just so creepy it's hard to believe, and this gelatin group makes it even more so. Sick individuals to do this in the first place, but to think of it in artistic terms is just too difficult to comprehend.

Excellent research on her part to connect all that stuff.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 02:28 | 6541398 conscious being
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Lter's appologizing for the dancing israelis? With plenty of ABCNews stories and analysis? Shocking. Et tu, Brute? Sleepers creepers.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 02:32 | 6541403 LetThemEatRand
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I quoted the ABC news version, which nonetheless confirms the presence of the Isrealis and even points out that some in the FBI thought they were operatives.   I did not know they had a van with the fucking twin towers and a plane on the side.  Of course that fact didn't make it into the ABC news report.  There is a kernel of truth in the MSM, but you need to look past the conclusion they draw.

Mon, 09/14/2015 - 02:00 | 6544985 Down to Earth T...
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as if ABC is a bastion of any truth or facts in recent times ?

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 03:18 | 6541437 Paveway IV
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Israeli moving companies were a variant of the Dead Sea Salt money laundering scam I linked above.

The workers were probably just here illegally making some quick cash and then acted as mules for laundered money for the Israeli Mafia when they returned home. There were dozens of these companies in NJ and NY back then. They attracted attention because they sucked as movers and all used Israelis just out of their army stint and here on tourist visas working illegally. They were still at it five years ago in NJ (different company but same basic setup). Ripped off one of my buddies and he ended up going down to their office with a crowbar to discuss things with them.

Now these guys might have actually been Israeli Intelligence because the illegal worker scam is a great front for sliding a few real agents in and giving them a cover. A couple of the Israeli art students were actually NICE and Amdocs employees - the Israeli mob's private surveilance and eavesdropping fronts. The whole suspicious nature of the moving company suddenly disappearing was either that the guy running it also worked for Israeli intel, or he worked for the Israeli Mafia. In either case, it would have been time to head home after the five guys were arrested. They weren't his problem anymore.

Not sure if they still do the moving company scam, but Dead Sea Salt carts still seem pretty common. An article mentions locksmithing too. Seems kind of weird unless they mean something like car unlocking service. They keep changing scams, but it always involves enticing young Israelis to come here and work illegally on tourist visas, then mule some mafia cash (drug money - cocaine) back to Israel.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 03:52 | 6541472 atthelake
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"Our purpose was to document the event" means they knew it would happen.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 08:50 | 6541734 roadhazard
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I love the Interwebs.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 19:08 | 6543823 maxwellsdemon
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the van with the obvious connection to the towers was likely a backup plan; if the planes were grounded for some reason, or the explosives in the buildings uncovered, then the tunnels or bridges wold have been blown up that day with a pre arranged trail to Osama bin laden. 

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 15:44 | 6542974 Chupacabra-322
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@ Save,

This Will Shock You To Your Core: 9/11 From Cheney To Mossad 91st Floor:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg7Qt4bV0B8

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 00:07 | 6541211 cornflakesdisease
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Folow the money.  Those nasty little Bush bonds.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 04:09 | 6541479 Trucker Glock
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"Some of her conclusions are a bit of a stretch"

Who is this crazy woman?  Am I correct that  she thinks people posing as Austrian art students were planting explosives in WTC and her theory is based on some plain cardboard boxes labeled "BB 18"?  Littelfuse busbar fuseholders are BB18, not BB 18.  And I don't see any company logos on those boxes.  Wtf  would busbar fuseholders have to do with explosives anyway?  The BB 18 is probably some size designation for the box, like the N3 printed on the box from Amazon sitting in front of me.  She sounds like a fucking moron and has zero credibility.  I can't believe people give her money to write books.  It's no wonder this country is so fucked.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:34 | 6540886 WillyGroper
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Catch the one on CTM.

Even more indepth.

She's quite the bloodhound.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 12:53 | 6542381 Trucker Glock
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She's quite the lunatic.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 23:29 | 6541115 freecheesex
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Here's another summary of Israeli involvement in 9-11 if you prefer reading to watching videos. They were all over 9-11 like white on rice.

https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/resurrecting-israel-did-911-al...

The second crucial aspect of control that needed to be established in order to pull off 9/11 was to gain control of security of the WTC complex. This way, Mossad explosive experts — that just so happened to be in town just prior to and on 9/11 — could be readily allowed access to strategic areas of the buildings in order to prep for the demolitions.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 00:44 | 6541280 falconflight
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Yeah, I saw that on E-News. 

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 15:08 | 6542828 dizzyfingers
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Everything connected. No coincidences.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 20:58 | 6540785 Mr Poopra
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For now we keep quiet.  When the time comes, we'll know what to do.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:13 | 6540823 Christophe2
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Better yet: keep thinking about solutions until we figure it out, and keep adapting to win in our private lives in the meantime.

I generally win a lot because I get better informed than others, and then do more to adapt to that info than most people will do.  I have 0 regrets about knowing 911 truth + all the rest.

Even if I haven't figured out how to fix everything for everyone else, my personal life is much better than 14 years ago (back then I was working super hard thinking I could make a positive change through the system).

I laugh at how they got me to work for them in the past, how they got me to even vote.  Things are completely different now, and my personal life has certainly benefited from not wasting anymore time or energy on TPTB's perversely engineered distractions.

Furthermore, now that I know what is blocking my (and our) progress, I am focused on solving that positively.  The solution will come, I am nearly certain of it :)

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:24 | 6540857 Buck Johnson
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He told the truth.

 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:15 | 6540831 Son of Loki
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Sorry, but I cant take a "Fellow" from such places as "Center for American Progress" seriously anymore. The Brookings Institute, Center for this ... Institute for that...  mostly paid spin meisters and truth distorters.

 

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 10:00 | 6541833 spellbound
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How will you know when the time comes? wHAT IF "IT" NEVER COMES? Everybody is waiting for everybody else to do something. 

When everybody is waiting for someone else to call 911 during an accident, the victim usually ends up dying because no one actually calls 911.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 00:03 | 6541193 bluez
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Simple score voting. You can give no votes at all, or (5) to (10) votes to up to (20) candidates.

No more spoiler effect

No more political science.

No more political party domination.

No more casting/tallying machines.

No more Republican/Democrat hegemony.

Vote yourself free.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 14:57 | 6542791 dizzyfingers
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"The fact that these same guys got away with 9/11 tells us everything we need to know about whether there's anything we can do about it."

 

Truer words never spoken...

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 20:55 | 6540776 Pliskin
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How strange, I didn't see this on Fox News !!

If only more Vets and current serving military could wake up to these facts, stop fighting the phony wars and turn their angst on the Government and Banking filth that are perpetuating all this global shit.

One can only hope!

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 20:58 | 6540783 q99x2
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Financial perversion is a disease that must be eradicated. 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:02 | 6540797 stant
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Guess we now know why Dempsy s get the fuk outa dodge

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:07 | 6540804 Oldballplayer
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He sounds like a whiney little bitch.

He is describing a world that everyone over the age of ten understands. Oooohhhh, life isn't fair.

I don't like the way it's run, but damn...we ain't gonna do nothin' about it. Shut up and do what you can.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:08 | 6540812 Chad_the_short_...
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This is old. But yes, he is 100% right. 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:08 | 6540813 indygo55
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There are more recent interviews of Ken O'Keefe on RT. In one show with Peter Lavelle Ken totally OWNs the other guy.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:09 | 6540814 LasVegasDave
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We should probably let the Iranians and Russians call the shots. It would be much better for everyone.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:20 | 6540841 HowdyDoody
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Yeah, it's about time the adults were given control. The spoiled brats running things now are just gonna keep trashing the place.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:22 | 6540848 Usurious
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the jews celebrate debt slavery by naming a Blvd after the fucking rothschilds......gee thanks

and guess where the fucking rothschilds fucking hotel is fucking located.......on fucking rothschilds fucking blvd....

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:07 | 6540962 Usurious
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yep, cheney of haliburtin..............kinda like clive of India........

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 00:46 | 6541273 falconflight
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Interestingly, Barack approved multiple sole bid contracts for Haliburton, and btw, I'm sure you're aware that Haliburton stock made Michael Moore maybe mAOR than his rank agitprop movies.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 07:46 | 6541661 Usurious
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call me when u get cheneys cock out of ur mouth

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 19:50 | 6543966 Oldrepublic
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I understood that Clive killed himself

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 04:30 | 6541496 Trucker Glock
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Yeah, that might be the dumbest shit I've ever heard.  She is a fucking idiot.  It's no wonder the vast majority of people think Truthers are kooks.  If she's not an idiot, she is very cunning, selling books to suckers.

Mon, 09/14/2015 - 05:36 | 6545193 ebear
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Yup. A genuine Brussell Sprout.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 09:41 | 6541802 Benjamin123
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hehe i've been to Rothschild Boulevard, its got nothing on the posh areas of any european capital.

Its mostly a row of decrepit 40 year old 3 floor buildings with no parking nor elevators populated by Hipsters.

Israelis celebrate the rothschilds for funding the early Russian immigrants to Ottoman Galilee.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:36 | 6540887 Fish Gone Bad
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That is just insane.  The Iranians would probably put everyone to death and the Russians would go all Stalin on anyone the Iranians did not outright kill. 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:21 | 6540999 Wahooo
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We have a lot of missiles. Can't we just kill them all - the Chosen, Arabs, Russians, Iranians. And then just say Oops.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 09:36 | 6541797 Benjamin123
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Almost everyone will wind up dead, a global population of 70 million seems adecuate.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:11 | 6540818 Yen Cross
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 I appreciate this gentlemans honesty. I'm so tired of seeing commercials that sensationalize war.

 Make no mistake... Wounded Warriors and other wonderful support programs for our Veterans are fantastic!

 The Federal Government is a complete farce, when it comes to "caretaking" for wounded servicemen and servicewomen.

 It makes me sick,  after the last congressional (midterm elections) after all the VA scandals and miss appropriations, NOTHING has changed!

 John Mc Insane, Boehner, and all the rinos are fucking done in 2016! Bitchez

  Most of the current refugee isuues wouldn't even exist, if it wasn't for the policies of the current administration, and continuation of previous administrations

There's only one side bitchez! US v Them.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:21 | 6540842 Son of Loki
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Those roaches crawling all over the bathroom sinks at Bethesda Hospital were pretty disgusting. I think that's why all the Top Dawgs -- generals, admirals, etc -- retire in Denver; much better facilities for vets there. No roaches, fleas, ants, rodents, etc.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:05 | 6540950 Paveway IV
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You're talking about the commoner peon-military facilities at Bethesda - like for the guys that get their legs blown off in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I can assure you that they do have lavish four-star accomodations for the 'right' people - we're just not allowed to see them most of the time, and damn sure are not allowed to use them. You're right about Denver, though. Even the big-shot brass get kicked off the 'right' people list when they retire and wouldn't stoop so low as to use the commoner roach-sink facilities in Bethesda. Besides, that place is always filled with whiney amputees.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:13 | 6540980 Yen Cross
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 Sickening.

Good on ya, Paveway IV.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:31 | 6541029 TeethVillage88s
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I guess there are probably 3 main hospitals for the 3 military branches, and then as you point out the unofficial best hospitals.

- Walter Reed Naval Hospital (Bethesda)
- FT Sam Houston Army Hospital (San Antonio)

Comparing Military Hospitals

There are currently 54 military hospitals in the United States and overseas that provide inpatient services. Many compare poorly to leading civilian hospitals on measures of safety in maternity care. Of those independently evaluated for surgical care, half posted high rates of complications. Most of the hospitals serve an average of 30 or fewer inpatients a day. Some have been marked by the Pentagon for downsizing. SEPT. 1, 2014

Military troops and civic leaders Friday celebrated completion of a 760,000-square-foot addition that will make the San Antonio Military Medical Center the Defense Department's largest inpatient hospital.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/09/01/us/comparing-military-hosp...

This is the NYT's list of most important Military Hospitals. The figure is the surguries performed.

San Antonio Military Medical Center, San Antonio Army, 23,124,
Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, Va., 21,097
Naval Medical Center, San Diego, 18,105
Madigan Army Medical Center, Tacoma, Wash., 16,310
Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, Bethesda, Md. Joint, 16,018
Tripler Army Medical Center, Honolulu, 14,334
Womack Army Medical Center, Fort Bragg, N.C., 11,949
Carl R. Darnall Army Medical Center, Fort Hood, Tex., 10,144
Fort Belvoir Community Hospital, Fort Belvoir, Va. Joint, 9,799
William Beaumont Army Medical Center, El Paso, Tex., 8,836
Evans Army Community Hospital, Fort Carson, Colo., 8,527
Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, Landstuhl, Germany Army, 8,347
Eisenhower Army Medical Center, Fort Gordon, Ga., 7,136
Naval Hospital, Camp Pendleton, Calif., 6,617
Blanchfield Army Community Hospital, Fort Campbell, Ky., 6,368
Naval Hospital, Camp Lejeune, N.C., 6,099
96th Medical Group, Eglin Air Force Base, Fla., 5,926
David Grant U.S.A.F. Medical Center, Travis Air Force Base, Calif., 5,874
Mike O'Callaghan Federal Medical Center, Nellis Air Force Base, Nev., 5,794
81st Medical Group, Keesler, Miss. Air Force, 5,446
Wright-Patterson Medical Center, Dayton, Ohio Air Force, 5,417
Naval Hospital, Jacksonville, Fla., 5,415
U.S.A.F. Regional Hospital, Elmendorf Air Force Base, Alaska, 5,237
Naval Hospital, Pensacola, Fla., 5,101
Martin Army Community Hospital, Fort Benning, Ga., 4,824
U.S.A.F. Hospital Langley, Joint Base Langley-Eustis, Va. Air Force, 4,765
Winn Army Community Hospital, Fort Stewart, Ga., 4,457
Naval Hospital, Okinawa, Japan, 4,153
Naval Hospital, Bremerton, Wash., 4,017
Ireland Army Community Hospital, Fort Knox, Ky., 3,699
Reynolds Army Community Hospital, Fort Sill, Okla., 3,623
Irwin Army Community Hospital, Fort Riley, Kansas, 3,312
General Leonard Wood Army Community Hospital, Fort Leonard Wood, Mo., 3,200
Moncrief Army Community Hospital, Fort Jackson, S.C., 2,919
121st General Hospital, Seoul, Korea Army, 2,669
Naval Hospital, Agana Heights, Guam, 2,381
R.A.F. Lakenheath, Lakenheath, England Air Force, 2,371
Naval Hospital, Yokosuka, Japan, 2,194
Bayne-Jones Army Community Hospital, Fort Polk, La., 2,177
Keller Army Community Hospital, West Point, N.Y., 1,942
Bassett Army Community Hospital, Fort Wainwright, Alaska, 1,900
Naval Hospital, Oak Harbor, Wash., 1,408
Naval Hospital, Lemoore, Calif., 1,291
Naval Hospital, Twentynine Palms, Calif., 1,274
374th Medical Group, Yokota Air Base, Japan Air Force, 1,067

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/02/us/smaller-military-hospitals-said-to-...

Notes: Civilian hospital benchmark is based on NPIC data of several hundred leading civilian hospitals across the nation that it monitors. The domestic military hospitals listed above posted rates higher than the average in at least one patient safety category in 2011 and 2012, and the gap was statistically significant. In addition, four overseas hospitals posted similar high rates. The data is not adjusted for differences in patient population. Experts consider the military population healthier than the civilian population. One-fourth of mothers are active duty service members.The category for shoulder dystocia and harm involves babies born weighing at least 5.5 pounds whose shoulders became stuck during delivery, which is considered an obstetric emergency. The two categories for maternal trauma involve vaginal deliveries only. Postpartum hemorrhage is based in part on the quantity of blood lost by the mother.
Source: National Perinatal Information Center.

Looks like article is just a starting point. I didn't do a web-search since I am in pain tonight.

- Does anyone want to follow up with New York Times on VA Hospitals?

- NYT = By Wilson Andrews and Andrew W. Lehren

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 00:38 | 6541269 falconflight
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I always enjoy your fraud, waste, and abuse reporting.  Too bad, punishing FWA is no longer the slightest concern for who's reason for being; the prime statutory reason for creating the IG during Carter's Administration.  You mentioned you're in pain, I hope it's only temporary.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 01:46 | 6541357 TeethVillage88s
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Thanks. Fraud Waste and Abuse is Federal Program.

What a joke.

Yeah, that is what I am shooting for (reform).

No, I have had pain for 25 years or more. I am kind of an idiot on health issues. But these things happen when I work out, clean house, or when I am lazy.

It is just temporary stuff, but I have learned that I can't stop exercise at all. Or I think I am learning that. Mostly I use alcohol I guess.

Good luck to you too.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:48 | 6540920 TeethVillage88s
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Great points. Here is a repost as I wonder how much VA money goes to the old boy network since we beleive everything that authority figures tell us about crisis, attacks on the USA, and our History:

VA Wastes $21 Billion on Contractor Supported IT That Doesn't Work.

How are the VA Computers Systems & Contractor Support for Veterans now? BIG STORY HERE. VA Scandal. Sure the contracts are for unique Systems. Simplify, Streamline, Standardize and it is Felonious to Spend $21 Billion setting up a system that still doesn't transfer Records for Military Medical Systems.

How Long have we been at work in the Computer Age? Military and Banking have been using computers for over 60 years. But to be generous start from the Persian Gulf War, Desert Storm.

- Over $21.4 Billion Dollars on Modernization and Computer Integration.

You know with this kind of Money it is not Organic Employees setting up VA Computers.

No, this is proof of the Rape of Taxpayers by Privatization.

2015, July Total VA Information Technology Systems = $3.180 Billion
2014 VA Information Technology Systems outlays = $3.432 Billion
2013 VA Information Technology Systems outlays = $3.218 Billion
2012 VA Information Technology Systems outlays = $3.266 Billion
2011 VA Information Technology Systems outlays = $3.355 Billion
2010 VA Information Technology Systems outlays = $2.526 Billion
2009 VA Information Technology Systems outlays = $2.395 Billion
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Total VA Information Technology Systems outlays = $21.4 Billion in 7 Years
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Total—Department of Veterans Affairs Outlays 2014 = $154.05 Billion
Total—Department of Veterans Affairs Outlays 2013 = $143.6 Billion
Total—Department of Veterans Affairs Outlays 2000 = $50.1 Billion
Total—Department of Veterans Affairs Outlays 1998 = $45.6 Billion
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2014 VA Medical Care = $46.04 Billion
2013 VA Medical Care = $44.7 Billion
2010 VA Medical Care = $36.9 Billion
2008 VA Medical Care = $30.0 Billion
2004 VA Medical Care = $24.4 Billion
2002 VA Medical Care = $22.6 Billion
1999 VA Medical Care = $17.8 Billion
1998 VA Medical Care = $17.3 Billion
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2014 VA Compensation and Pensions = $69.82 Billion
2013 VA Compensation and Pensions = $64.76 Billion
2010 VA Compensation and Pensions = $47.90 Billion
2008 VA Compensation and Pensions = $40.24 Billion
2004 VA Compensation and Pensions = $29.78 Billion
2002 VA Compensation and Pensions = $25.68 Billion
2000 VA Compensation and Pensions = $23.82 Billion
1999 VA Compensation and Pensions = $21.15 Billion
1998 VA Compensation and Pensions = $20.29 Billion

What happened to VA Compensation & Pensions after 2008... it went hyper exponential. I'm sure the VA Employees don't want everyone to see how much money they make. OR take a close look at Privatization of IT Contracts.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:30 | 6541023 Oldballplayer
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What happened between 2008 and 2010?

The baby boomers started taking their retirement. Masses of mid level and higher level managers probably saw the shit storm coming with Obama, and they simply cashed out.

Wait a few more years and the 60 year olds running stuff now will be bailing out at the start of the next administration.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:49 | 6541066 TeethVillage88s
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Heh, heh, these negative votes are always guys that don't want data to see the light of day.

Boomers retiring in 2008 would be very senior and with large packages since the retirement compensation did go up in the 2000s. I think you might be on to something.

But remember civilian compensation is larger as a rule than like say NCOs.

I'm pointing out something much worse than you are commenting on from a perspective of benis'.

The organized insiders ride on union fought for benefits and also score the heights salaries, wage hikes, and even government bonus money, along with special contracts as experts or contractors.

So, it is worse than what you say, but you are also correct. We can make warriors. We can create fighters. I'm not worried about the shill cries of those gaming for contracts, who get cuts to fighters, then cry we don't have enough fighters. Pentagon Budget is huge and vibrant, if we don't have fighters it is because Zios want contracts.

Duh.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 09:58 | 6541829 Abaco
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Obama doubled the spending.  VA IT is a cesspool of fiefdoms most concerned with increasing their budget an populated by technology employees that don't know a damn thing but get to sabatoge contractors with impunity.  And the contrators wouldn't dare suggest "hey we could do that for $500K if you would get the hell out of the way!"  Why not? Becasue they will be told to fuck off and the money spend on some asshole company that gives "perks."

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:13 | 6540972 ThrowAwayYourTV
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Men are born warriors, women born care givers. Fucking with this is asking for touble.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:13 | 6540827 Hal n back
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Hawaiian citizenship?

 

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:55 | 6540927 Paveway IV
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The Kingdom of Hawaii is still a legal entity, it's just not recognized as an independent nation internationally. It's kind of like being a citizen of the sovereign nation of Texas. You get a useless passport and secret decoder ring, but that's about it.

We did covertly stage a coup there and eventually sent in the marines to occupy it when the natives got uppity, so they do have a pretty good claim that it's not a U.S. possession and was annexed illegally. I'm guessing the U.S. federal judges are not impressed and we would quickly send in the marines again if the natives got uppity again. I believe the 3rd Marine Regiment is there already, so we would just have to sober them up and send them out the front gate to reclaim Hawaii if they tried to succeed.

I sympathize with the Kingdom, but the feds are pretty mad-dog about loosing either real estate or the tax-revenue-generating bipedal meat units that live there.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 09:25 | 6541783 Benjamin123
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Ridiculous, all governments are defacto.

Legal is whatever the military says its legal.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:30 | 6540949 Pancho de Villa
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My initial thought also, but apparently the aboriginal Hawaiian people are already well on their way to reinstating a Soveriegn Government of their own. Read all about it!

 

/hawaii-gov.net/

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 22:52 | 6541042 Paveway IV
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I'm no lawyer, but there's a distinction between a token local sovereignty and full (or national) sovereignty. My example of Texas was contrived - the independence movement there uses the term 'sovereign', but that have neither local nor national sovereignty in the eyes of the U.S. government (yet - I'm rooting for them, too).

The Apache Nation has local sovereignty. The Apaches are citizens of the Apache nation. They can open casinos and sell smokes, but the Apache nation can't issue passports and does not have a representative at the UN. As a matter of fact, they still don't own their own land. The U.S. sold a big chunk of it to Rio Tinto last year for copper mining I think - snuck it in as some kind of rider in the NDAA bill. Thanks to traitor and land thief John McCain. Go figure.

So good luck to Native Hawaiians and their token local sovereignty if they've got that far. Still, I'm guessing Dole isn't about to give any of their land back to them. Again, I don't think it's right that the U.S. 'owns' them - I'm just saying that the Kingdom of Hawaii has a snowball's chance in hell of getting full sovereignty FROM the federal government. The psychopaths in Washington just don't play that.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 23:26 | 6541132 Pancho de Villa
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Dude! Don't go trying to Burst My Bubble! I just happen to be a Citizen of The Republic of Texas!

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 01:18 | 6541328 Paveway IV
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When the SHTF, I'll be cutting through your razor-wire border fence and seeking asylum. Would you mind sponsoring me? My teeth are OK.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 11:51 | 6542142 Pancho de Villa
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Well, we can always use another good ranch hand. As long as ya can manage yerself on horseback, handle a lasso and a branding iron out on the range, sure. Come on down! lol

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 14:25 | 6542696 Paveway IV
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I use to watch My Little Pony with my daughter, so I'm pretty familiar with horses. I didn't think Lasso was even legal any more - isn't RoundUp the big thing now? Most of those neurotoxins are the same; I had chemical warfare training in the military so I should be good to go. I'll admit I'm not much of a golfer, though. I still have my dad's old clubs - I think he had a branding iron, sand wedge, woods and a couple of putters. I'll just bring them all - you're welcome to use them.

Can I bring the wife and kids if I haven't already sold them before arriving? I'm not expecting the dog to make it. He may as well have a sticker on him that says "Emergency Rations".

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 16:13 | 6543074 Pancho de Villa
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Sure, Bring the whole gang! The Little Lady just Loves company! Clever folks are always welcome! It sometimes seems like we've been overrun with fools.

Nice thing about the Northern part of the Republic is there's a good mix of Farm and Ranchland. Although I still remember feeling sorry for those calves, bawling as that Hot Iron hit that tender Rawhide, these days they just get eartags. Good fences makes for Honest Neighbors!

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 21:14 | 6540828 davidalan1
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Total Fubar....We fucked up Iraq...We fucked up Libya. We fucked up Iran, yemen, afghanistan et al...fuck ups r us

Eisenhower was absolutely right....

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