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1 In 3 Americans Would Support A Military Coup... In America
One topic that seems to be of great concern to a relatively large swath of the US public is the militarization of American cities.
Indeed, with each passing “confrontation” between protesters and police, “protecting and serving” seems to look more and more like “subduing and controlling.”
The fear of military and police overreach came to a head this year in the lead up to the US Spec Ops Command’s multi-state “training exercise” dubbed Jade Helm 15. Thanks to a few viral internet campaigns and some badly-timed Wal-Mart closures, some US citizens came to believe that the federal government had devised a plan to institute martial law in Texas.
Be that as it may, if there’s anything Americans fear more than overt oppression enacted by force it’s covert oppression enacted by a nefarious combination of crony capitalism and corrupt (not to mention largely incompetent) politicians, which we suppose explains why nearly a third of Americans say they would support a military coup in the US. Here’s more from YouGov:
The United States military has long embraced the idea of civilian control of national affairs, and apart from certain rare moments the American officer corps has faithfully followed the orders of their civilian superiors.
YouGov's latest research shows, however, that officers in the military are held in much greater esteem than their civilian superiors, and that they are widely viewed as having the best interests of the country in mind instead of their own selfish concerns. 70% of Americans believe that military officers generally want what is best for the country. When it comes to Congressmen, however, 71% of Americans believe that they want what is best for themselves, along with 59% for local politicians.
29% of Americans could imagine a situation in which they would support the military seizing control of the federal government, while 41% could not imagine such a situation.
Republicans (43%) are more than twice as likely as Democrats (20%) to say that they could conceive of a situation in which they would support a military coup in the United States. Independents tend to say that they could not (38%) rather than could (29%) imagine supporting a coup.
We present that with no further comment other than to note that Abraham Wyner, director of the undergrad program in statistics at Wharton, suggests you remember that selection bias makes online polling "worse than just about any other way you can put together a poll."
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I'm in that 33.33%
We need a coup of the world wide banking cartel.
We need someone who is outside the power of money to really do justice to to the robbers. I'm down
A coup will never happen...
Obozo has already "coup-proofed" himself by replacing all the "backboned" military brass over the past 7 years with his own hand-picked mealy-mouthed PC yes-men. A bunch of "perfumed generals" every one!
The coup already happened. In the 50’s. Its what Ike warned us about.
I thought they took over officially on 22 Nov. 1963.
support??
wtf...I'D participate AT THIS POINT
The coup will be used to liquidate the Democratic-Republican party and the supreme court.
The Nationalist Party lead by Emperor Trump will lead the American Empire to greatness and glory for the American people.
1 In 3 Americans Would Support.....just about anything.
Everything that has happened since (at least) 1913 has been leading up to this. Bush et.al. tried it in the 30s, but they picked a General who believed the in the constitution.
Did you think that they would just give up?
When Congress will not prosecute clear criminal conduct, what are a people to do?
Barack Hussein Obama is engaging in treason, (in the Iran deal if nothing else, but there are other charges), yet Congress not only will not prosecute him, they abet his criminality.
Despite being presented with the entire plan, every member involved in it and an open-and-shut case against some of the biggest oligarchs at the time, President Roosevelt felt no need to carry through on any prosecution against those involved in the attempted fascist coup.
What hope do you have of any of the current political class prosecuting treason today?
This whole thread borders on NSA-bait
Violence will solve nothing.
"1 In 3 Americans Would Support.....
just about anything."
That's the most sensible comment today. To get proper results, they should first have asked the respondents to define "coup".
They prolly think it's something good to do with moar human rights and democracy. That's what they're told when it happens abroad, so what would they know?
Given you're a Russian troll I'd be a little surprised if you saw it otherwise.
Just take care what you pootie-lovers wish for, for if you got it, putin, you and fellow pootie-trolls will wish it had never happened. ;-)
"Given you're a Russian troll I'd be a little surprised if you saw it otherwise."
Typical aimless comment. Otherwise than what? Did I advocate for a coup in the USA? If you feel I did, where exactly did I say it?
"Just take care what you pootie-lovers wish for, for if you got it, putin, you and fellow pootie-trolls will wish it had never happened. ;-)"
Since you seem to have your crystal ball on hand, pray tell me what I wish for that shouldn't happen?
Too close to the bone for ya?
Trump?!?
Reminds me of a mash-up of Putin and Mussolini.
And Trump will get NASA moving again... to Mars!
Donald Trump: God-Emperor of Two Planets... and that's just the beginning.
Actually, it was September 11, 2001. November 22, 1963 was just laying the groundwork.
Yeah. Laid that groundwork all over Jackie's suit, half of the car and all up and down Elm Street. Hell of a job.
SEPTEMBER CLUES 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gORu-68SHpE (1:31:43)
Dr Judy Wood : Evidence of breakthrough energy technology on 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vadSaWyiozg (2:24:57)
9/11 BOMBSHELL: METHODICAL DECEPTION — Rebekah Roth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdP95oSoOFk (1:14:10)
and we see how well that one has worked out
When I run the scenarios as to how fucked we are, a Military Coup is the only end game that can save us.
But at this point there would need to be a coup within the military first, so it's gotten a little more complicated.
Save you? Sure. In the same way drowning yourself will "save" you from being burned alive.
All the people ruining your republic own the military. A military coup just means they no longer need the pretense of an election to keep the masses in line.
Well said. Very true. The only way out of the oligarchy is to ride it into its conclusion, which is when the 0.1% class amasses around 35% of all U.S. wealth, like 1929, then the middle class implodes. Today, the 0.1% class owns roughly 30% (when you include hidden-offshore accounts). We're not far from that tipping point.
1861
1788
Bingo. You nailed the date right on the head.
Just discussing this topic shows us how far down a very very bad toxic rabbit hole we've fallen.
This, my friends, is fucked up.
What Knuckles said. What makes anyone think that the military would be any kinder than the Federal government if they were in control?
I'm surprised it's only one in three, considering four fifths of U.S.Americans want to initiate a pre-emptive nuclear war with Russia.
The fact that the MSM has not crucified Obama for his actions speaks volumes and wags the fickle finger of fate at those that control the message... The MSM in Murika and the EU are owned by six companies, all control by one religious sect... Now ask yourself, who stands to benefit from keeping the ME inflamed and muslims killing each other while they expand their sphere of influence? They are following the PNAC charter, chapter and verse... But of course, anyone that dares raise this topic is quickly branded an anti-semite, because that is what the programming has done to the sheeple, made them compliant...
The article is telegraphing that the CIA PSYOPS will use the threat of a military coup if that's what they need to do to force their will on the world population. They don't know what the reaction would be to that prospect so they float the idea on social media. In brief, they are polling Z/H for a response, and some weirdo in Virginia is building a profile of possible probabilities. Don't forget that Wall Street & the MIC teamed up during Occupy.
Be careful what you wish for.
People are wondering if ozero is going to willfully leave?
A very concise summary, knuks.
There's always that little catch -- no matter how grotesquely corrupt the constitutional government is, and it is, when the military takes over, there are a few little problems:
It tends to cause a little dissonance amongst the officers who have sworn to uphold the constitution. What to do, what to do?
I agree. This is the biggest problem. Look what happened when Caligula was assassinated to end his brutal tyranny. There was a point when the republic could have been restored but it was not. Depending on the ultimate aim of the men who perform the coup makes the difference. Even so, there are those with hidden agendas who could steer the direction to a fascistic state. The scramble to power is dangerous at this time.
When a pendulum is displaced sideways to a point and released, it will travel to the opposite side at the same angle before stopping. It passes through the resting state on its journey but the momentum doesn't allow it to stop. This is what I fear today. The greater the injustice and corruption of government invites and even greater backlash. The individuals who just want liberty and freedom are crushed in a Stalinesque- like purge.
Miffed
It's disgusting. Best country ever ruined by the best country ever. Where to go....Antarctica seems safe...
This poll sounds like some kind of trick that gets you on a list you really don't want to be on when shit gets ugly.
Q: "Do you support a coup?"
A: "Yes"
Q: "For your safety, please remain in your current location. Agents have been dispached to your premises for your relocation and reeducation."
click click pull....
That's the sound emanating from the undergoround
click click pull
You're more likely to find that those who said "no" are the ones who will be in "need" of reeducaiton.
Coups are not orchestrated by Generals, its Colonels, Majors and Captains at least in the third world.. Hell I would support a coup of fiat and the return of real money, but the military in charge is no panacea...
Batista was a sergeant
Hitler a corporal.
That's the same percentage that supported king George.
If you are one of the 1/3 to support this then you are fooled.
The only reason to fight, like Smedley Butler said, is to fight and protect the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights.
A military coup, like all military coups would do away with all the protections of the Bill of Rights. These bills are what made us great and without them we will be like Thailand, Peron's Argenina (a general), Hitler's Germany, Napoleon, etc, etc.
I pray that we never have a military coup.
A military junta are like all men, self serving and they would first and foremost serve themselves or their crony buddies, and yet without any constitutional or legal protections for the rest of us.
BTW, who wants or who would benefit from a military coup.
Remember who tried to do one in the 1930's? Yes, the 0.001% tried to connive Smedley Butler to take over the govt. for their selfish purposes.
So remember that when you are babbling about.
Yes, something is wrong but this aint the way to fix it.
And if you are the typiical American that does not know what the Bill of Rights is then learn it! Fucktard!
If it wasn't for the military, the Muslim Brotherhood would be running Egypt.
The military usually consists of patriots, so that's as good as it gets in time of dire straights.
In the case of the USA, patriots support the constitution.
That's the most naive thing I've ever heard.
Just in from Reuters, the report of a Mexican tourist group in Egypt being attacked by the forces of the martial law regime there. This incident should do wonders for Egyptian tourism.
(Reuters) Egypt's police and military killed 12 Egyptians and Mexicans and injured 10 others when they accidentally shot at a Mexican tourist convoy while engaging militants in the country's western desert, the Interior Ministry said Monday.
"A joint force from the police and military, whilst chasing terrorist elements in the oasis area of the western desert tonight, accidentally engaged four four-wheel drives belonging to a Mexican tourist group," the ministry said in a statement.
"The incident resulted in the death of 12 Mexicans and Egyptians and the injury of 10 others who have been transferred to hospitals," the statement said.
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Fukem all
Gubmint. Ctrl-Alt-Del
Fudgepacker. Sin sandpapered off & buried in salt
I would, I would!
Who the hell would answer a question like this?
!!!!
Because the question was hypothetical.
Wonder if they had ask: Do you support a military coup to save Obama from the rednecks and Putin?
Or, say to save the Jews from the masses?
How do you think that pool would have swang?
Well, in another on-line poll they said Hillary! was Mother Teresa reincarnated by 60%, so... ;-)
Hillary and mother Teresa both have big egos. That's 100% certainty.
Anyway, I meant to say if "could imagine" instead of hypothetical.
My examples were hypothetical because imagining could be very broad in scope.
If you skip the presstitude stories and look up what Mother Theresa was really like, that actually makes sense.
Just one example: MT had the rails removed from the ambulances, and sofas installed, so she and her nuns could get through traffic in comfort and without delay on their way to lunch. When people called the clinic requesting an ambulance pickup, they were told they had no ambulances, you have to get here on your own.
re: MT
The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice see Christopher Hitchens
Military coup... How'd that work out in other places? Like in Italy when a coup brought Mussolini to power in 1922. Or in Cambodia when Lon Nol overthrow Sihanouk? Or perhaps those 33% of Americans would prefer to live in Myanmar, where winning an election lands you in the brig for the next 20 years and abuse of the population by the military is a way of life. Or perhaps in any of a half dozen South American countries where military coups are the standard means of transferring power. Or -- my personal favorite -- Haiti, which has had more than two dozen coups since becoming a country in 1803.
Messed up, man...
Interesting... I see two choices: "in the name of country" (historical usage of "patriot") and "for themselves". The entire concept for any of these fuckwads playing for someone else's team is completely ignored in this poll.
Why do you need a military coup when the Military, Wall Street and Spooks run the land of the free? Elections are just entertainment in the land of the free. The Deep State runs everything independently of the elected representatives.
Who rules America?
The secret collaboration of the military, the intelligence and national security agencies, and gigantic corporations in the systematic and illegal surveillance of the American people reveals the true wielders of power in the United States. Telecommunications giants such as AT&T, Verizon and Sprint, and Internet companies such as Google, Microsoft, Facebook and Twitter, provide the military and the FBI and CIA with access to data on hundreds of millions of people that these state agencies have no legal right to possess.
Congress and both of the major political parties serve as rubber stamps for the confluence of the military, the intelligence apparatus and Wall Street that really runs the country. The so-called “Fourth Estate”—the mass media—functions shamelessly as an arm of this ruling troika.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/06/10/pers-j10.html
Snowden's documents revealed that the NSA spies on everyone:
The most extraordinary passage in the memo requires that the Israeli spooks “destroy upon recognition” any communication provided by the NSA “that is either to or from an official of the US government.” It goes on to spell out that this includes “officials of the Executive Branch (including the White House, Cabinet Departments, and independent agencies); the US House of Representatives and Senate (members and staff); and the US Federal Court System (including, but not limited to, the Supreme Court).”
The stunning implication of this passage is that NSA spying targets not only ordinary American citizens, but also Supreme Court justices, members of Congress and the White House itself. One could hardly ask for a more naked exposure of a police state.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/09/13/surv-s13.html
Ah yeah, that paragon of unbiased journalism, the World Socialist Web Site
You prefer the New York Times for unbiased journalism?
“The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media.” — former CIA Director William Colby
There is the visible government situated around the Mall in Washington, and then there is another, more shadowy, more indefinable government that is not explained in Civics 101 or observable to tourists at the White House or the Capitol. The former is traditional Washington partisan politics: the tip of the iceberg that a public watching C-SPAN sees daily and which is theoretically controllable via elections. The subsurface part of the iceberg I shall call the Deep State, which operates according to its own compass heading regardless of who is formally in power. [1]
http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/21/anatomy-of-the-deep-state/
interesting regarding Colby and his canoe "accident"
looking at the mic budget and usa foreign policy it looks like we've already had one
If any country should of had a military coup by now its Greece, seriously, there practically is no govt in Greece atm.... the Military should of stepped in to fix things years ago.
Because Republicans...
I got paid in BitCoin to punch an on-line poll button for a day.
Democracy is fun & illuminating ;-)
Watchu buy with the BitCoin?
more bits, less coin
Best comment of the day.
You have to read between the lines with this stuff. People support a military coup because of concerns over police militarization... let's not finesse the details.
American of all stripes have started to awaken to the fact that the industrial/political/banking leadership of this country are all traitors who have destroyed us. We're yearning for patriots.
The only real reason Trump is getting any traction is because in between his other blatherings he keeps muttering "America First." That's what the media don't seem to fucking get. If I half-believed a word out of Trump's mouth I might even believe him myself, but he admits deal-making is above all else for him, so I take it with a grain of salt.
The Dumbocraps and MSM are apoplectic about Trump. They're giving him al the attention 24/7/365 in an effort to demean him, drive him from existence. What they simply don't get is that people are fed up and looking for anyway out of this political correct socialistic infringement upon rights crap going on.
The Media has it all wrong, they're feeding as opposed to starving the beast.
Why I would pose, is the MSM NOT doing the same to Sanders?
Think about it. He's the Dumbo's only electable asset (as per the pols right now) other than Hillbilly, but no shrieking and tugging of hair.
Self evident back lash. MSM and Big Politics misread the sheeple. They really ain't so asleep after all.
Wrong. The media knows precisely what it is doing. The whole point is to put trump in the white house.
Consider 1 in 2 American is white. This is saying 2/3 white American support military coupe. And consider women are less receptable to military coupe. All white males ................
...... Tea Party, radicals, Bible toting, gun owning, Christian fundamentalist, meat eating, climate deniers, America first, Constitution loving, fossil fuel using, you get the picture ....
Strawman! Where's the Strawman!
Eat a Progressive for Christ
You rang ? Sire
Sharing needles with the big j.c.
On binded knee with a ulfberht begging for a different out come Other than the one history suggest. Shit ya not the ulfberht hangs with my ky long rifle on my field Stone fire place
Steve, Steve, Steve, are you saying that white females will only do it in the backseat of a military coupe?
WTF, doesn't everyone know the coup happened years ago by the Banks the MIC and big pharma and the families that own those corporations, the govermnet and the printing press.
1 in 3... 2 words FEMA camps
at this time its pretty obvious that the fed gov and all its workers have become a self serving entity ...i.e. them vs us..its about their paycheck and NOT about civil service.......with 19 trillion in debt and instead of setting an example the POTUS flies off on a 747 whilst crying climate change...JOKE....
That is a lot of angry people. I guess we are tired of being robbed and lied to.
Yep. Lots and lots of 'em.
People know there's something very wrong.
Just don't agree totally on "exactly what" (No more than we all here, do as a matter of fact) or how to fix it (ditto)
But they're not all asleep at the wheel, folks.
Easy to see if you spend time with a broad cross section of the populace, which I happen to have the opportunity to do.
Most of them are pure fucking crazy, but coming awake for any of a variety of reasons.
Yes
The only thing that might start a revolution would be to close KFC,MC Donalds and Dominos simultaneously
Shut down EBT
They'd be invading the neighborhoods like a plague of locusts*.
(*Biblical reference helps color the mental image here...)
Tanks for the memories.
That poll was pretty misleading. The question was NOT "would you support a military coup?". The question was " Can you imagine any situation in which you would support a military coup?". Those are very different questions.
Like an alien invasion...
1913 was the final takeover.....1776 ended about 5 minutes after it was won.
I wonder if the poll numbers based on political party would be swapped around if the GOP was in control - or if this poll was taken during the Bush administration.
I will guess it would be a total flip -
All this says is when you are in power you are less likely to revolt - but when the other guys are in control then you are more willing to support the use of force to put the people you think should be in charge back in charge.
Still waiting to see if this Shemitah theory holds. Just a reminder we are at a convergence of the end of a Shemitah (supposed to coincide with bigtime economic problems and stock collapses), the beginning of a Jubliee year (every 49 years supposedly coincides with Israeli land grabs and war) and a Jewish holiday blood moon tetrad (also supposedly linked to weird events, ebola outbreaks, sanctions etc., this one seems vague).
Bottom line if this theory holds we should see some serious economic SHTF by the end of the month with special emphasis on this time frame right now. If these people are truly this nutty they will not let this time frame pass without pulling something. Technically we have already had some of this come to pass and one individual who was self promoting a survive Shemitah fund made a shit ton of money a couple of weeks ago. Also one would expect an incident in Israel to kick off the Jubilee, which possibly we had at a Mosque on the Temple Mount this morning. If the Jubilee theory holds Israel should be kicking somebodies ass and taking their land by no later than this Fall.
People are talking about this everywhere but this is probably the origin of the theory:
"Bestselling author of The Harbinger and the new book, the Mystery of the Shemitah, Rabbi Jonathan Cahn has uncovered a startling connection between the Shemitah and the financial markets here in the US. Rabbi Cahn’s investigation reveals that since 1973, every US financial collapse combined with subsequent recession has occurred during the Shemitah 100% of the time! That includes the financial collapses of 2001 and 2008, the worst in US history!"
"But the evidence gets even more convincing because the pattern of seven year cycles can actually be traced back to the financial collapse that led to the Great Depression of the 1930’s. Interestingly, these seven year cycles concur with the Shemitah years on the Jewish calendar!"
As a student of history I would state that prophecy is fulfilled by men for whatever maleavalent purposes and that any well educated and knowledgeable person can be a Nostradamus knowing that whilst history doesn't necessarily repeat it does rhyme,Rabbi Cahn always gives the I could be wrong disclaimer what hes discovered is probably more Kabbalah than Torah
I agree, this wouldn't necessarily have to be prophesy although the internet is buzzing with Christians that seem to be taking it that way. If the theory has any validity at all it would be more like engineered events based on dates or self fulfilling prophesy. The theory seems to imply that a group of Zionist nutters have so much control over financial and other events that they can engineer catastrophe on a whim during dates of their choosing. It also does seem more along the lines of fringe Kabbalah stuff or even Satanism than general Judaism.
I guess I should include that this Rabbi seems to come from the standpoint that it is God manifesting things on chosen people dates.
This^ Entirely engineered events, on a long enough timeframe that most people forget, by the time the pattern is recognized it is a goddam standing wave
If you were true student of history you would begin with detailed analysis of the prophecy concerning Jesus and look at the statistical probability of 1) anyone who could fulfill the requirement & 2) the probability of all that was prophesied actually came to pass. You would find the probability to be almost absolute zero; meaning that He is who he claimed to be.
not many of us get to spend our childhood immersed in esoteric spiritual practices
I think if you took this same poll in 2005 or 2006, you'd get the same percentages as today, except those in favor of the coup would be the blue team supporters. Today, there are more red team supporters that would support it. That's how polarized the US has become.
Military Coup?
I'm still waiting for the waters to recede and the Earth to heal...
Anyway... If it's gonna be, then I vote for a good slogan to rally the proles...
How about "Bazookas For Obama"?
"Bedtime For Obonzo"?
"Put da Moolie in the tulies" ?
Hey, it's Sunday...I'm tired.
The earth does not heal; it it written and it WILL come to pass, as it is written:
For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.
This is no Shit.. I actually got a poll that sounded something like.. would you support President Obama if he ran for a third term. I hung up so fast their head spun. I figured the Aliens were landing and i needed to get to the bunker and my gun.
Sheeesh I've been waiting a long time for bankster season to open. Maybe some ole military persons from the old military of the United States of America will make the move. It is the path of least resistance.
The other 2/3 are waiting to hear what Kaitlyn thinks
I have a better idea. Lock up all politicians and all military leaders. Then send the troops home, declare all conflicts and wars over. Then fire all government employees of all types and levels. Then get on with life without human predators. And if you ever see another human predator, exterminate them, just like threatening predators of any other species.
pacifics have been trying it for a couple hundred years and lose every single time!
Human predators eat pacifists for breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks and dessert.
We start with you; you seem hostile and a potential predator.
You might as well drop all pretenses and suggest we vaporize all the evil bits of human nature with a thought laser. The "predators" are not any different to ordinary people except in terms of ambition and sometimes intelligence. Forget about these so-called predators, and change yourself for the better. That's the only thing you can be certain of having achieved.
I've changed myself for the better since I was 4 years old. And my approach is to evade the predators, since 99.999% of humans at least sanction, and usually actively support the human predators, making any effort to eliminate them essentially futile (and not our fault).
Don't make excuses for human predators. No excuses are sane, valid or remotely reasonable.
And no, my "human nature" is not even slightly similar, much less equivalent to human predators.
I have a great deal of ambition and intelligence, and so do the other humans I collaborate and work with. However, we are 100% honest, ethical, productive and benevolent, while the human predators are dishonest, evil, destructive, malevolent.
To make even the slightest attempt to equate humans like us with human predators because "we're both ambitious and intelligent" is an amazingly vile abuse of pretend intellect. Congratulations, you win the jerk of the week award.
my guess is one in three americans either
shit, piss, drool or puke on themselves
on any single day. get this, it is
proven that a candidate for president
of the "united states of america" can be
selected with even less support.
NSA/CIA/FBI bots and flesh eyes will be reading this thread. Post accordingly.
With that said, from an academic perspective... I said that the window for this scenario came and went with 2008/2009.
That was when there were field grade commanders that were a) still red blooded, normally oriented men b) men who cared for some semblance of equity, honor, and natural law and c) had an opportunity to seriously challenge the installed, illegitimate, and illegal presidency of Obama amidst a financial upheaval.
Today, the entire structure of the military is deballed, degraded in quality, demoralized, and homosexualized to the point that I am sad to say I have difficulty imagining any cohesion in a serious crisis. Further, the powers that be have clearly shifted to the automated techno model a la Oblivion's drones. I don't think it will work in the end, but that is the model that they have embraced.
I would suggest that the best scenario we have to look forward to is an orderly crack up and formation of federations (e.g., Texas/Louisiana/Oklahoma, reconstitution of the other former states of the CSA, etc.) by way of governors declaring 'home rule' in the face of untenable tyrannical control. This way, such activists for freedom would do so in a legally defensible, orderly, and lawful manner.
We are not revolutionaries like the braindead left wing who, were it not for their chronic impotence, would have nocturnal emissions at the thought of reenacting Lenin's take over. Rather, we wish to restore some semblance of orderly systems of governance that promote hard work, some common baseline of moral conduct based on centuries of Western conduct, and genuine cultural celebration (rather than vapid consumerism, manufactured bubble gum pop, or weaponized ghetto gangsta rap.)
I want to emphasize, I do not support the overthrow of our systems of government in my state or the US: I support a restoration, at least to some meaningful degree, of those systems that our officials supposedly pledge to uphold.
You were waxing eloquent till you waffled at the end.. The "silent majority" would love to see the US Constitution restored, but they have no idea what that means.
I agree mostly . At this point best to just let them collapse on thier own. Any attempt would just give them power to go a bit longer.
Get-er done!!
Henoch prophecies. The US has not one but two civil wrs in the near future.
How about a military coup of the military, then a military coup of the gov?
70% of generals and admirals are given jobs by defense contractors and consultants as payback for green lighting $Billions$ of contracts to the defense contractors
The military today is as corrupt as the government(s). Everything is owned by the bank(s). Corruption is the status quo.
Sorry,,, if we want the country back we're going to have to do it ourselves. No outsourcing available for this.
Since we lack the firepower to do that what you're really saying is we're fucked... which I could have told you.
I think it would be an instant Hummel classic.
Barry in handcuffs being dragged from the oval office.
I thought DHS considers patriots to be terrorists?
If true, 100 million Americans are terrorists.
None of them live in the District of Criminals.
I was thinking an armed civilian coup would do just fine.
Ultimately, armed citizens ARE THE MILITARY.
Agreed Sir. We are only biding our time. Everything we need is in place. I would bet that Europe will ignite first but what do I know?
Hey, we've all got one black star on our NSA folders just for looking at ZH, and another black star for posting anything at all, but do we get an extra-special asterisk for posting on this thread?
Answer the door, man. I think it's for you.
I'm not home.
SPECTRE has already coup'ed the US government.
Oh, you didn't know SPECTRE was real?
Prehaps you know it by its other name: The World Economic Forum.
They meet quite openly in Davos, Switzerland every winter. They're the guys sitting in the high-backed chairs, stroking cats. Jamie Dimond is affectionately called "Number Two," Janet Yellin "Number Three," and so on down the line, ending with Roger Goodell, who is "Number 11,205."
I support actual martial law (the civillan government gets deposed and the military declares martial law).
I support it even more if Wesley Clark and all the ZWO fag generals are executed as part of the process.
This country should have had a coup the moment the magic negro put his hand on the quran/ bible to "fundamentally transform America".
Keep your heads.
Bullshit....only 1 in 3 US citizens
The rest of the US citizens are in the Emergency Room - being seen for chest pain, strokes, "hanging" injuries, MVA trauma due to no seatbelt (C-spine fractures = hanging). It's a suicidal party for the under 20 and over 40 crowd.
Bullshit....only 1 in 3 US citizens
I would prefer an armed insurrection, but to each their own.
Even one shot could cause one to end up in jail awaiting a murder trial, leaving your family to fend for themselves. Unless you are going to bury the body in the yard, this idea is not plausible.
Freedom isnt free, coward. Im sure your children will be very appreciative of you for the world you're gonna leave them.
I am saying, "stop it before it goes door to door." If a military member of high ranking walking into the 6 o'clock news station of CNN and grabbed the microphone, announced to America people the truth about the last 14 years, "the govt has been captured and held by rogue elements for years and now, we are in process of elimination through NSA data collection." The police, members of military families, local and state officials and community leaders would deal with cleaning up this massive mess, not everyday people who could end up losing everything to attorney fees.
Harming cops and politicians solves nothing.
Lumping crime fighters with crime creators is an oxymoron....you been at the lake, in the lake or under the lake way too long
A military coup in America would equal civil war.
Yeah!...What's the plan? I've been ready for quite a long time, to chase me some CRIMINALS!!
who has the time and place?
Best bet is big rigs, when the truckers all get on the freeway for a cause. Load em up and send them to the District of Corruption.
This is why the Criminal in Chief purged the military. Its up to us citizens alone to create change and god knows that aint gonna happen.
We should assemble guillotines at the capitals of our states and in DD (District of Criminals) and shown them their rightful place. If the French ever did anything right the guillotine is the one.
The French Revolution and the guillotine were not instruments of liberty or justice. There were instruments of murder.
Out with the old boss, in with the new boss.
What kind of support? Military? Financial? Emotional? Until it starts is more likely. Then they'll run like hell away from the fray.
Harming cops and politicians solves nothing.