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An Angry China May Cancel Xi Trip To Washington Over US Cyber Sanctions
A little over a week ago, FT suggested that the US was set to slap China with sanctions in retaliation for what the US claims are a series of cyber attacks. The news came a month after the NSA leaked a “secret” map to the press which purported to show the locations of hundreds of cyber intrusions which NBC said were used “to steal corporate and military secrets and data about America's critical infrastructure, particularly the electrical power and telecommunications and internet backbone.”
Furthermore, the report continued, “the prizes that China pilfered during its ‘intrusions’ included everything from specifications for hybrid cars to formulas for pharmaceutical products to details about U.S. military and civilian air traffic control systems.” NBC cited “intelligence officials.”
The release of the map and subsequent indication that the Obama administration felt it needed to send a message in the wake of the OPM hack described as “the largest theft of US government data ever,” marked the culmination of a long cyber propaganda campaign which began with accusations that North Korea had attempted to sabotage the release of a Seth Rogen film and reached peak absurdity when Bloomberg reported that Chinese hacker spies had taken control of the Penn State engineering department.
Ultimately, all of this prompted the administration to “prepare a raft of sanctions to respond to [the] mounting commercial espionage,” FT reported. The problem with applying the sanctions now however, is that Xi Jinping is preparing to visit Washington and as anyone who knows anything about Xi is fully aware, he is not a man who enjoys being embarrassed, a fact that's led some officials to voice concerns about the wisdom of leveling the sanctions now as opposed to after Xi and Obama have met and the Chinese President is back home in Beijing. The thinking is essentially this: “why risk making things awkward when the US could just wait and apply the sanctions later, allowing Xi to save face?”
Well sure enough, it now looks like the very idea that Washington is set to move ahead with the sanctions may be enough to prompt Xi to cancel the trip altogether. The Hill has more:
Sanctions punishing China for hacking U.S. companies could drive Beijing to cancel President Xi Jinping’s upcoming U.S. visit, according to experts and former administration officials.
The Asian power is increasingly anxious about the potential of economic penalties ahead of what’s seen as an important summit for the future of the U.S.-China relationship.
“The Chinese right now are getting very concerned because they understand this will create embarrassing optics around the visit for them,” said Samm Sacks, China analyst at the Eurasia Group, a political risk consulting firm, who has advised government agencies on Chinese tech policy.
While some experts and former White House cybersecurity officials are wary the administration will aggravate Beijing just days before Xi lands in Washington, current officials have privately indicated sanctions may be imminent.
Then again, The White House is also concerned that its reputation (or whatever is left of it as it relates to relations with China) will be damaged if the US allows a diplomatic visit to dictate America's response to what’s been billed as aggressive cyber warfare:
“If they don’t announce the sanctions soon,” Sacks said, “it makes the Obama administration look weak.”
But when those penalties hit is a major question.
Many see little upside to timing the sanctions this close to the meetings. After months of anticipation, such a move would eliminate any chance of a worthwhile dialogue on cybersecurity at the summit and compound the inevitable blowback, policy specialists agreed.
“You’re not going to get any better chance to talk to them than right now,” said Jason Healey, a former director of cyber infrastructure protection at the White House. “If I were Obama, I would want some running room.”
Healey and others believe the rumors are meant simply as a message to the Chinese delegation as it prepares to make the trip stateside.
“My sense was that the leaks were happening to try and create some kind of pressure on the Chinese as they come into the summit, to get some type of traction with them,” said Chinese cyber policy expert Adam Segal, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.
Others have heard the leaks were not intentional, and came from hard-liners within the administration who want to press forward with sanctions.
Either way, the U.S. is in a rare position to apply cybersecurity pressure on China. Many believe the White House has less to lose than its counterpart during the upcoming summit.
Within the Obama administration, “there’s a tolerance of having a bad visit,” Sacks said.
Beijing officials are more concerned about the international community’s perception of the meetings, foreign policy experts agreed.
“They want to send the signal about [Xi’s] arrival on the international stage,” Segal explained.
In the end, this is just further evidence of worsening relations between the US and China. If the situation is so tenuous that sanctions related to hacking have the potential to derail a meeting between the leaders of the two countries which now preside over a world that's returned to bipolarity for the first time since the fall of the USSR, then constructive dialogue around issues like China's military buildup in the Spratlys or, more recently, the presence of the Chinese navy off the coast of Alaska may be all but impossible going forward and as Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov reminded the US last week, when dialogue isn't possible, "unintended incidents" are more likely to occur.
Of course something tells us Xi wasn't really looking forward to the trip in the first place so we doubt he'll be losing sleep...
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YOU BOMBED MY FUCKING COUNTRY TWICE YOU MOTHERFUCKERS
- Xi
Visiting the US is stupid, he'll get assasinated by the blood thirsty Western Elites.
The Chinese are concerned about saving face. The Americans have no concern they are blatantly two faced.
Western satanists have no class.
He'll have to stand in line; Barry has 10,000 Muslims ahead of Pres Xi. But I would advise those Chinese who are buying McMansions in the USA to remember; when push comes to shove their property will easily be confiscated or frozen as relations heat up.
The Chinese are concerned about saving face.
There are doctors who can help.
Look, if you want Barry more flexible, then you should pray for more rainbow pandas because he is......God help us
God is away on vacation, and all pleas for help are being directed to Mr. Putin's office answering machine in the interim.
No, Putin is away.... Um you figure it out. God is never far away.
No, but sometimes that mofo *looks* the other way. If we are really made in his image, then I suspect Caitlyn and the Kardashians could be to blame.
Time to WAKE THE FUCK UP, God. DO SOMETHING!! And TURN OFF YOUR TV!
Careful, you're about to get what you're asking for but it won't make you happy other than the rope neckties for the banksters, that'll be nice:)
The only problem with bothering GOD with your petty problems is you never know which side s/he/it is on.
Try to remember that Lloyd said he was doing GOD's work, so that should tell you something.
I am surprised that Obummer's flunkies don't accuse the Chinese of the Ashley Madison hack.
The Ashley Madison hack was the ghost J Edgar Hoover, still trying to blackmail politicos for who they sleep with.
J Edgar only visited gay sites.
Everybody knows that was Putin!!!
+100 CK.
I would like to add....Sanctions on China LOL. First like sanctions ever work, besides Walmart and Apple would be screaming about the damage to revenues.
Imagine if their response to sanctions was to nationalize Apple's Chinese assets. Too bad the markets can't go down over 20% per day, it might take some time to clear the carnage. In other words there won't be any sanctions. Obama is pwned.
The nationalization of Apple's Chinese assets would do wonders for China's remaining high tech business.
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So put the sanctions on. If he cancels double them up again. Fuck China
Advice to the State Department:
Tell the slant eyes to fuck the dead pigs they throw into the Yangtze and send them to the Muslims with whom they are contracting for oil and gas.
Say it in diplomatic-speak so they won't get offended.
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Poor Walmart.
You're fucked.
The current crop of Walton's are big Obama brown nosers and suck asses.
They've decided to stop selling AR-15's and took down their firearms website.
Can't prove it was due to Obama's influence but why else.
It means more revenue for criminals.
Introducing sanctions prior to the Premiers arrival=loss of face,and yes the State Department knows exactly what its doing
what kind of sanctions did china impose, when we bombed their fucking embassy? (our response) "oops my bad"
My recollection is some random pilot aptly named "Wong Wei" knocked a wing off one of our spy planes shortly afterward. Of course the Chinese said "Oops, my bad" while they imprisoned the crew who made an emegency landing in China. ??? Oh yeah, they didn't apologize did they? Face matters it seems.
I've always wondered what previous incident led us to 'accidentally' program the embassy's coordinates into that smart bomb, anyone know?
no sanction that i can remember. but practically all of china's major weapons program restarted after that. there was a time when china's defence budget was lower than that of taiwan.
sanctions are for juveniles.
The USSA... most egregious cyber-terrorists in the history of the universe. They have no standing to wag fingers at anyone. NSA == non-stop aggression.
Microsoft 10, study it,it makes Chinese hackers look amateur hour
Yes, and so...
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Yeah, come on over. Don't mind the revolution while you are gone.
I used to think that the usual way this sort of stuff ends up (war) was something to be avoided at all costs. Now I'm not so sure that isn't preferable.
Feel free to down-vote away. I just think it needed to be said. I'm all for rational alternatives, but does anyone see rationality being embraced ANYWHERE within world leadership right now?
No, you are right. The system is so impossibly screwed up that the only possibility we have is to see it all collapse and luck out twice: just being able to make it to the other side and having it not turn out worse than it already is. People have thoroughly renounced rationality and reason so there's no direct evolutionary path to take.
Not even China can pass up free booze, Cocaine, & hookers, at the Whore House IMHO.
China kills their fags.
Seems like 5/6 of the planet wants to kill their gays,
but
the 1/6 that doesn't is homophobic.
Dupe.
America kills everyone including their fags!
Well..not all of them and herein lies the problem.
After they get married and are on their honeymoon
If the U.S. nuked 500 million Chinese the Chinese government would send us a "Thank You" card.
So China can afford a first nuclear strike on the U.S. without bothering about retaliation. That's good news again.
"it makes the Obama administration look weak". ?? How could that be? You have Lurch, Valerie, Johnnie Mac, and a host of metrosexual psycopaths directing this government. Where could weakness ever be construed?? Even Reggie Love would say that Obama is the "stiffist" upper lip he has ever encountered. The Chinese, being an emerging market are just to sensitive. Maybe it's because Obama didn't get around to bowing on his bow tour but these are different times. Xi should give O another chance.
Xi Jinping already surrendered to Goldman Sachs. He won't be able to re-establish his credibility no matter what he does now. Maybe he can defect to Mr. Fink's house.
Really?
Did Xi unsuspend all those stocks?
look guys, if you're going to put on a big show wrapping your cock holsters around China's dinky little member, you're going to have to wait until the Sunday night game is over here in the US... otherwise you're just talking to yourselves... pro tip...
A crumbling and already crashed Empire hacks worldwide but get pissed with China. I think China should pass the vyber securoty law under which all us software companies will be forced to keep their Chinese servers in china only i stead of usa. I remember when China talked about passing such law empire schmucks lost their mind and said it concerns usa. Well ueah fcuk yourself dumbfucks.
Those sanctions will further isolate the U.S. so that is great news for the world.
The noise coming from the White House is drowning out the sound of our popcorn popping.
A couple of options:
Washington should call off the visit.
Best of all. (and they have to move fast) throw the American ambassador out of Beijing and recall the Chinese ambassador to the US.
What did we expect from a politician whose only skill was pulling seeds out of cotton and spitting seeds out of watermelon?
no doubt... china owns a huge chunk of our debt, that they sell back to us in walmart trinkets. eat up almost half of the global commodities, out number us by a vast amount.... and all the yahoos can say up on here is about fags. 'cause yeah, you doing your mistress like back dorothy last night wasn't the root of all evil.
asshats. this has nothing to do with anything socially motivated. it's a poker bluff. who needs whom more. it's a pissing contest where china is saying, "you round eyes are nothing more than a country of hating each other flag waving rednecks that don't make shit anymore... matter of fact, all you best numbers on the dow are made here... what you got? and all you rednecks keep pissing where you eat. alex jones must have just gone off the air whipping the natives into a frenzy with his latest, "major red alert update" .cracked out on his latest 'male vitality' snake oil.....
What is .25% of $3 trillion?
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false paradigm political theatrics, if you think the chinese ruling class are not in on the new world order i have a bridge to sell you.
The Chinese despise Mercans and the higher you go in the hierarchy the more they despise US. Too simple?
I've just imposed my own sanctions on the US. No more google spying. I now use the Russian Yandex browser. Works great with only a few minor bugs but definitely superior to Chrome with its built in spy features.
Russian spyware is superior.
Yeah. The Russians will be happy to know I'm a PM bug
Gordon liu would eat this guy up, and other executioners from shaolin would either kick him in the balls or go the golden statue with the marbles trick.
I propose we send Chuck Norris to get rid of the Chicom boats off Alaska.
fuck em, sanction the shit out of china for this crap. their economy is falling apart and this is what they have now resorted to to try and force their domestic engine to squeeze out some extra gdp units. they need to be smacked in a way to burn off some 5% of their GDP and plunge the chinese economy into panic mode.
You are a nutcase. You really believe that China hacked into Penn State's engineering department? What are they looking for? The grades of the new Freshman class? This is a fabricated story. Just like the Russian sub that interfered with a fishing boat in European waters which actually ended up being a British sub.
It's Americans like you who are responsible for much of the pain in the world today. Never negotiate. Never say you are wrong. Never show 'weakness' (willingness to listen to the other side). Never say you are sorry.
The world is moving on now. The Americans are being left behind cowering in fear of a world full of enemies of their own making and their increasingly illiterate population devolving to a third world police state.
It's going to happen anyway so why not give the Chinese someone to blame it on?
It seems the US foreign policy, at the moment, consists exclusively in pissing off everybody.
And boy, aren't they good at it.
Bull queer foreign policy.
Funny but, all of my cyber intrusions trace back to servers in Redmond WA, Ithaca NY and Herndon VA.
~ DC
About the only reason the USA has any "friends" is because we give countries cash - or pay for their protection.
Like the spoiled rich kid at school that has a lot of friends because he gives out candy, or always has weed and booze.
The thing is - those friends you have because you give them free candy are the same guys that are fucking your girlfriend while you are passed out.
Real friends don't need to be paid.
hopefully, there would be no sanctions. if there would be ones, it would push china and russia even much closer. more importantly, china could devalue cny more and sell more ust. furthermore, if the meeting between xi and obama would go south, think what china would do.
do not hear what china says, see what she does. do not see what usa does, ponder what she thinks.
If American's had any guts, then they would flock to the sea ports, and throw the garbage made in China, in factories ripped from the USA, into the ocean. A real tea party.