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Bringing "Once Great Nations" To Their Knees - Reagan Vs. Obama

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Sun, 09/13/2015 - 17:04 | 6543281 Escrava Isaura
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Exactly!

Reagan filled the White House with the Technocrats (Neoliberals/Neoconservatives): The Working Group on Financial Markets (also, President's Working Group on Financial Markets, the Working Group, and colloquially the Plunge Protection Team) was created by Executive Order 12631, signed on March 18, 1988 by United States President Ronald Reagan.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Group_on_Financial_Markets

 

 

Second: Then, Reagan’s “Conservative Propaganda” of dumbing down the misinformed Americans with smaller government worked as planned, while Reagan ran the highest debt to GDP ratio EVER (288.5%). And mainly to the MIC:

1980 US Debt: $930,210

ftp://ftp.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdm121980.pdf

1988 US Debt: 2,664,392

ftp://ftp.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdm121988.pdf

 

To put US deficit into perspective: Obama would have to run a deficit of about $38 trillion dollars to match Reagan’s GDP ratio.

 

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 18:02 | 6543527 Oldwood
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And I bet you wish you could vote for Obama one more time. Progressives are convinced that their only failure is not going far enough. Obama's failure was not going full socialist/communist/fascist soon enough and hard enough. Go Bernie Sanders, right?

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 18:49 | 6543741 Escrava Isaura
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I live in Maryland/DC Metro area so my vote for president wouldn’t matter. But, if I lived in a swing state I would had vote for Obama because McCain an Palin were dangerous.

 

And Romney, besides clueless and charlatan, is also dangerous. Just goggle Romney traveling from Boston to Canada with their family dog on the roof of the car. The dog end up running away from them at a stop.

 

If their dog doesn’t want them, why would you want that type of woman as a first lady?

 

I don’t.

 

 

 

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 16:23 | 6543114 explosivo
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They are both just puppets. Why do people keep focusing their attention on the presidents?

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 16:34 | 6543162 PoasterToaster
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It's easy to forget how many people have low IQ's.  Stupid people tend to simplify many things into one thing, and then think they understand it all as long as the one thing makes sense to them.  The last generation of propaganda depended on this key fact to work its magic on the masses.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 17:16 | 6543332 New_Meat
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Joe Biden knows he has a higher IQ than you do, sport.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 17:41 | 6543453 undertow1141
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And every idiot thinks they are brilliant, your point? Or was that sarcasm? If so, nice.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 20:11 | 6544013 GeoffreyT
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The problem is not one of low IQs, it is a problem of the computing power of an 'average' IQ (i.e., one within 1sd of the mean - so between 85 and 115).

People with an average IQ are not 'dumb', and are, by definition, not 'low-IQ'. However the largest-scale survey of adult cognition ever undertaken (the PIAAC Survey, with 165,000 participants across the OECD) shows - clearly, categorically and irrefutably - that a person within 1 sd of a median IQ does not have the literacy, numeracy or problem-solving competency to equip them to deal with the problems of everyday life.

In fact, going by the OECD's results (and assuming a correlation between survey performance and IQ - not really a stretch given the sample size and the nature of the tasks involved): in order to have a chance of being able to see through the bullshit in politics and the media, an individual requires an IQ in the mid-120s; in order to be certain of doing so requires an IQ in the high 130s.

Those cutoffs are the 5% and 1% IQ boundaries, respectively: they align with the fact that less than 5% of adults score 'Level IV' on the PIAAC, and less than 1% score 'Level V'. (PIAAC's taxonomy runs from Level I - poor performance - up to Level V). Having done the test, I can tell you that Level V is at a level that I would broadly equate to Grade 9 (I did Grade 9 in the 1970s, so it's probably Grade 11 given the decline in standards).

If you examine the PIAAC background documents, you discover that only Level V ensures the capacity to

  • analyse information from numerous, conflicting sources;
  • assess information for rhetorical bias;
  • understand complex graphical presentation of data;

etc etc... (basically, the things you might think that ANYBODY would need to enable them to discriminate between competing political narratives).

In short: it's not that vast numbers of people are 'low IQ': it's that an IQ anything below 'genius' does not properly equip an individual to deal with the lying parasitic scumbags of the political class.

It's actually difficult to frame discussions for the average person, unless you're being dishonest and reducing things to competing sound bites (in which case it's easy to win by lying).

As I often remind my colleagues: there is as big a cognitive gap between an IQ of 130 and the median, as there is between the median and the average person with Downs Syndrome. Little wonder, then, that talking to a person of genuinely 'average' intelligence is like talking to oneself aged about 8.

That does not make 'average' people bad, or stupid, or anything of the sort - but it makes them easy prey for unscrupulous people 1sd smarter than them (that's the average politician: innumerate, functionally semi-literate... but smarter-enough to be able to frame lies convincingly). What it does mean though, is that the average individual is cognitively ill-adapted for being part of collective decision-making: since it would be equally-illegitimate for 'smarties' to make decisions that affected their intellectual inferiors, the only morally-defensible solution is to have no collective decision-making.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 21:39 | 6544385 Why.Not.
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Excellent post. You said:

"...it's that an IQ anything below 'genius' does not properly equip an individual to deal with the lying parasitic scumbags of the political class"

Nor does an average "education" these days attempt to minimize the problem; instead it adds to the deficit. Meanwhile, career politicians and complicit media continue to develop and employ lying/manipulation as a primary skill. It's no wonder they are better at it than the average citizen is at winnowing out the truth. 

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 16:27 | 6543130 Peter Pan
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I often wonder how great America could have been without its leaders of the last 50 years.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 16:43 | 6543191 ZD1
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Or just the last 15 years.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 17:18 | 6543345 Debt-Is-Not-Money
Sun, 09/13/2015 - 16:35 | 6543163 Professorlocknload
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The War Party rages on.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 17:05 | 6543286 viator
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Mo' government!

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 17:09 | 6543301 jcdenton
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Reading these comments just proves the cognitive dissonance infecting America and western society. Cog-dis is a very unfortunate condition that can get to the best of us ..

I don't wish to call out most here "too stupid to live." (acting out) However, I will go so far as to claim too much selective and willful ignorance. And that is a pretty good feat, considering most here disdain the MSM. But, at the same still have trouble discerning true alt-media and free press ..

 

Please begin with this archive:

https://app.box.com/s/hfgvcqg7gqh7i27at6sv53ywu87lwarp

Special Instructions for participants of this thread:

1) Skip my Read Me First. (you can read that later if you choose)

2) Go straight to the 11 minute teaser. View summary as you listen.

3) Go straight to the WANTA-Book.pdf  Download it for easier viewing.

4) Go straight to Chapter 1. (You can read the Forward and Intro later.)

5) Go here: http://www.amazon.com/Wanta-Black-Swan-White-Hat-ebook/dp/B00ZVH4FCQ/ref...

6) Go straight to Chapter 1.

7) You are now comparing/contrast the 2nd revision with the 3rd (Kindle). Compare the first three chapters. There are minor differences.

8) After these 3 chapters, decide whether or not to purchase the current Kindle versions at $16.95. The Kindle is just more convenient for some. Notice all attachments (documents) point to the same web site.

9) To explain the Barnewall omissions in the Gibby version would be quite a task, and involves explaining how double-agents are created and nurtured. I had an email and chat rapport with Barnewall, six (6) years before either of us knew of the existence of Amb. Wanta.

10) Go back to my Read Me First to get the full flavor of this archive. You cannot see the user statistics as I can. Frankly, they are astounding. Some sections approaching 1000 views. Considering this archive is less than 30 days old. And I can only guess at the multiplier effect present here. The results I am seeing are more than satisfying to say the very least.

 

Back to Ronald Wilson Reagan. My CinC as a U.S. Marine. Carter was my first, but he didn't count in my book. Most people. Way too many people know nothing about the real Reagan. Amb. Wanta will educate you, if you give him the chance ..

 

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 17:49 | 6543482 Chuck Knoblauch
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I always thought the trillions went to pay for the secret space program and underground bases?

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 17:14 | 6543323 Neochrome
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I saw Muppet show, puppeteer is hidden under the desk. 

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 18:06 | 6543541 vincenze
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Mr Reagan has no connection with the collapse of the Soviet Union.

When a Soviet worker had to give away 90% of his income in taxes, he lost any interest in good work.

An American worker has to give away about 50% of his income now. Add all these income, property taxes and now the healthcare tax. Consider this - there was no income tax before 1913, the government was so small that 40% of its taxes came from the booze tax.

 

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 20:58 | 6544250 squid
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Oh sure, in hind sight it was SOOOOO obvious.

 

It wasn't at the time. Half of my university thought we should just surrender because nuclear war was just oh so scary.

 

Fuck that, Rinnie and Maggie were neccessary at the time.

 

Squid

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 21:32 | 6544367 aardvarkk
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Maybe.  Maybe not.  But to me, Reagan will always be the guy that was president when I was in middle and high school and halfway through college.  Therefore I will always associate him with my glory days.  Beyond that, I have no attachment to him or any politician.  They can all go yank each other for all I care.  ESPECIALLY Obama, simply because his fans built him up to be this huge intellect, and I have yet to see anything out of him that I haven't seen out of B-grade undergrads.  Which isn't surprising considering he still to this day refuses to release his academic record to the public.  A B-grade undergrad is almost certainly exactly what he is.  I'd bet even money that my own academic career (including my master's) is stronger than his.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 22:27 | 6544580 NoBillsOfCredit
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It would help if you knew what "income" is in a tax statute. See Edwards v. Keith, 1916 2nd circuit unanimous decision. Oh, the actual case is not on Google scholar. You have to go to the law library to see it in whole.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 18:51 | 6543752 Das Capitalist
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Man, you are obsessed with this Townhall propaganda aren't you?

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 19:01 | 6543788 Arthur Schopenhauer
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Not me!  

...But everybody else is.

Sun, 09/13/2015 - 22:50 | 6544637 Grimaldus
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I'm not a pro-Regan guy but at least he didn't hate America. Obirdbrain not only hates America, he hates Americans.

 

 

 

The progressive stupid, it burns.

 

 

 

Grimaldus

Mon, 09/14/2015 - 04:45 | 6545156 Crusader75
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Rubbish. The U.S. economy is currently the envy of the world, while Reagan was an embarrassment to that world. Lucky for him 40+ years of economic and military pressure and containment came to a head under him. Until it did, he believed the CIA, that the Soviets had surpassed the U.S. in military strength and the country was in danger of being eclipsed. Nice guy, though.

Mon, 09/14/2015 - 08:41 | 6545514 chilller
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The reason the democratic, progressive party has gotten so big in the last few decades is because all the lunatic asylums were shutdown, the patients given phychiatric drugs and released onto the streets.

Mon, 09/14/2015 - 10:57 | 6546099 DosZap
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"Federal Reserve just prints the currency...the administration comes out with spending and house of representative does the budget.  The fed only does what the administration dictates them to print including bailouts guaranteed by the government known as QE."

 

If you really believe that, I have some swampland in Phoenix for sale, interested?.

Mon, 09/14/2015 - 11:13 | 6546177 Doppelganger71
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Obama sucks the shit as it slides out of Goldman Sachs asshole....................

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