Jeremy Corbyn, the infamous Karl Marx admirer, has been elected UK opposition Labour leader.
Here is The Anti Media with a little color on the landslide victory...
People’s favourite Jeremy Corbyn became the new leader of Britain’s Labour Party on Saturday after racing to victory with 59.5% of the vote.
The election results, announced on Saturday morning from the Queen Elizabeth II Conference Centre in London, declared that 422,664 votes were cast and saw Tom Watson elected as deputy leader of the Labour Party.
Corbyn now faces the resignation of up to a dozen shadow cabinet members who claim they will refuse to serve under the MP and cannot publicly support his policies. According to The Telegraph, a group of centrist MPs nicknamed “The Resistance” intends to hold a series of public policy debates about Labour’s future — in open defiance of their new leader.
During the last month, the Labour leadership campaign has seen trade unions double their number of signed-up supporters and 120,000 people pay £3 to register as supporters to be able to vote. The party’s website crashed as surges of people attempted to sign up at the last minute and Labour struggled to cope with almost 400,000 new members and supporters.
Corbyn’s anti-war stance and fierce criticism of regimes that others are falling over themselves to support has resulted in an unprecedented smear campaign against him, painting him as weak on terror. His biggest and best endorsement to date has to be vilification by Tony Blair, who warned the Labour Party would face annihilation if Corbyn were crowned leader.
In addition to establishment hysteria at anticipation of Saturday’s result, The Times reported that David Cameron plans to claim the new leader poses a clear threat to Britain’s security since he questioned the latest drone strikes in Syria.
Corbyn is really communist who professes an admiration for Karl Marx. He is the new face of Britain’s opposition Labour party which will help to make a British EU exit more likely. The Marxist sophistry is rob anyone who has more.
They never understand that we all provide our piece of the economy that creates the whole. Many are starting to realize that this could be the downturn for Britain.
This is actually right on schedule for the other side of 2015.75 will be the battle of all time – Freedom v Authoritarianism.
People like Corbyn will inspire violent and the overthrow of capitalism for what they think will be the betterment of man. They are idiots and dangerous ones at that for you cannot eradicate human nature. Yet they will try.
I am routinely asked why to I resistance so persistently?
What I do, I do for my family and their future. If it were just me alone, I am ready to depart this world for I do not wish to live in the world Corbyn and others like him want to create. They cannot see that they seek to enslave me for their benefit. I am free and that is the true meaning of what Patrick Henry said so eloquently – “Give me freedom, or give me Death!”
Death to me is preferable to living in their world of subjugation. You do not appreciate what those word so profoundly mean until you are confronted with the true evil of Marxists.
That moron doesn't stand a chance. He'll be blocked by the other parties and silenced.
Perhaps a car accident...tragic really
Yes it will be awful, just terrible.
Are there nailguns in the UK?
This is just a backlash to the 1% corporate/government/godzillionaire bullshit.
What does w=everybody expect,? Sanders and Trump here in the US.
All the same. Whether they be far left or right, it's the whip lash push back response in a fit of "I'm tired of the shit and it's gotta stop moment."
I can tell you all from my own personal experience that it's happening in my own neighborhood/amongst acquaintances. Just had about enough. Enough that it's being heard, manifested in a variety of "surprise" to the mainline power broker oriented folks out there.
Look at the RNC and DNC responses to Trump and Sanders. People know there's something very very wrong and want change away from the gold old ways of the recent world, but simply are not untied upon their path/view of the future.
"...are not united upon their path/view of the future."
If there could be one, a good one, it would require generations to get there. People want/expect a quick change, during thier lifetime, with simply someone new in the WH (w/Republican Congress???). If there is a quick big change it will come from the US Treasury and/or the Federal Reserve or China by proxy.
How is this guy a Marxist in any way shape or form? He's anti-Israel.
What does that even mean? Is there a chapter in the communist manifesto requiring support for israel?
It's in the fine print. The invisible fine print seen only by tribe members. Any "communist" that isn't also a Zionist is merely a useful idiot soon due for liquidation.
i guess you never heard of noam chomsky. the tribe is more divided on zionism than you think.
"i guess you never heard of noam chomsky. the tribe is more divided on zionism than you think."
Forget Chomsky, read Norman Finkelstein. Go to his site and listen to his lectures etc.
http://normanfinkelstein.com/
People like Corbyn will inspire violent and the overthrow of capitalism for what they think will be the betterment of man. They are idiots and dangerous ones at that for you cannot eradicate human nature. Yet they will try.
Anti-war Corbyn is the one advocating violence.. right. Funny that these asshats are shitting themselves over a guy (corbyn) who doesn't even have a chance in hell of getting elected.
Meanwhile actual warmonger david cameron:
The Labour Party is now a threat to our national security, our economic security and your family's security.
Git dem! Dey deh bad ones!!
https://twitter.com/david_cameron/status/642984909980725248
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'."- david cameron
Give me an anti-zionist over Armstrong any day of the week.
Why do you think the MSM hate Corbyn so much?
Why do you think the MSM hate Corbyn so much?
He's no threat politically for the pm, but he does bring up uncomfortable truths about the ruling class and where their power / wealth comes from. The last thing they want is a prominent guy in public lifting the skirt. Uncle joe said it best:
We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas.
Anti-war Corbyn is the one advocating violence.. right.
Cole acts like that is unheard of. OBTW the word was inspire, not advocate. Yet. Hardcore Marxists always advocate peace (and often safety), but only when finally ensconced in power does the real bloodletting begin. What was the name of that undercover operative who reported the Weather Underground's eliminationist plans?
Edit: Larry Grathwohl
Call yourself a nationalist, or someone of any other ideology other than his own and then see how kindly the "anti-war" Corbyn will treat you, I think you will find that his pacificism only extends to those that agree with him and he'll be cheering on the police state to crush anyone elses liberty.
What does that even mean? Is there a chapter in the communist manifesto requiring support for israel?
IMHO, it's NOT actually what he stands for but, a bit like Trump in The US, it's a symptom of "We the people" being sick and tired of the fascist status quo which does nothing for the 99%. The people want change and it isn't going to come from within the existing "Establishment" so the election of extemes on both the far left AND the far right is the first sign of rebellion. Armstrong more than anyone should be able to recognise this trend.
Stalin hated Jews. When Lenin died {1924}, a full 70+% of the party leadership were Jews. By 1938, only 5% were Jews, and they were low level members with little to no authority. Khrushchev said so in his autobiography.
Doesn't matter - nobody cares much for Stalin or Lenin these days. It is only the hidden hand Jew Marx who keeps popping up whack-a-mole style.
Been awhile since we had a war with Rothchild. Another one would be fine.
Corbyn is not "infamous" Will people, especially journalists, please stop misusing the adjective 'infamous' ?!! Just stop it. Look up the definition for yourself - once and for all. While you're at it look up the noun 'infamy' as well.
"infamous" adjective:
: well-known for being bad : known for evil acts or crimes
: causing people to think you are bad or evil
Full Definition of INFAMOUS 1: having a reputation of the worst kind : notoriously evil <an infamous traitor> 2: causing or bringing infamy : disgraceful <an infamous crime> 3: convicted of an offense bringing infamy Got it now? I fucking hope so. Jeremy Corbyn might well be a notorious Marxist but he could sue you for defamation/libel if you keep insisting he's "infamous".We've passed the point where more than half of the people are on the government dole in some manner.
It will be more socialism, more government, more taxes forever until the whole thing collapses. Nobody cares if it doesn't work in the long term as long as next week's EBT clears at Walmart.
Enjoy the decline folks.
The good old Cloward-Piven land of somebody else's plenty for all, equally, my ass.
When receiving payouts from Social Secirity after paying into the system for 45+ years is mischaracterised as being on the "government dole" it's about time for a real leftist to show people there is an alternative to a government that gives everything to the 0.01% and austerity to everyone else.
What a pant load. You really like the busted pendulum form of governance, eh? We have seen what "real" leftists have to show us, from the Jacobins to Pol Pot.
The people need to be armed for protection from that kind of "democracy".
PS - SSDI was busted by people who did not pay in. How Progressive.
I seems to me that you're basically saying "if they can do it why can't I?" to government handouts. This is why our framers tried to give us the smallest government possible. This is why any progressive tax should be deemed illegal. Too many people are corrupted by the prospect of a monthly check in some form or another including Big Business corporations. Couple that with fiat driven inflation and a lack of family cohesion and you have a recipe for the government dependence we see today.
BTW, SSDI was designed to be a LAST RESORT for people who outlived their family and their financial resources and unfortunately we neglected to change the eligibility age to reflect longer lifespans over the decades following inception. It was NOT supposed to a American National pension/retirment plan. Today it is headed toward insolvency BECAUSE everyone is using it as if it were a pension and too many go unpunished for abusing it through fraud.
When all else fails, go for the geriatric-Marxist-white-guy.
Bernie 2016!!!...lmao!
The world's greatest reality show and first prize is the ability to fuck up an entire country, just look at great the last winner was/is......
A little democracy combined with authoritarian administrators goes a long way don't it? ;-)
Not jumping on that douche-bags bandwagon, but how has all the other douche-bags made Britian a better place for its people including the Torys.
The marxist in waiting is just the scapegoat the rest need to offload their own responsibility for turning the British Isles into a multi-culti totalitarian police state.
When I lived there back in the 60's they were laboring (get it, labor ... never mind) under the breaking and strains imposed by the Labor of old, the very same rot this chap's professing.
It was not a very nice economic society.
Now add in all the welfare and diversity and a socialist path is going to implode the entire society, for their policies are higher taxes, more regulations, more redistribution all resulting in substantially lower growth and material "well being"
Shorting bread and circuses don't work well
Barry has a new friend. Bet if this guy winds up PM, Barry'll ask for the bust of Churchill back for the Oval Orifice
This has nothing to do with communism or marxism specifically. We live in a broken system. There has been gross generational theft. The young arent going to want pay for all the pensions and benefits accumulataed by the old, the gini ceoff is getting worse, taxes are high, the moneys running out and the esltablishments solution is to pay for it later. Enough people get frustrated and you get political shifts. Its what is happening now and its the way things have always happened.
This has nothing to do with communism or marxism specifically. We live in a broken system. There has been gross generational theft. The young arent going to want pay for all the pensions and benefits accumulataed by the old, the gini ceoff is getting worse, taxes are high, the moneys running out and the esltablishments solution is to pay for it later. Enough people get frustrated and you get political shifts. Its what is happening now and its the way things have always happened.
Corbyn is a big fan of the late Marxist dictator Hugo Chavez in Venezuela?
After a couple years of Corbyn as dictator, no doubt people in the UK will be scrounging for toilet paper like the masses do now in Venezuela?
http://www.wsj.com/articles/jeremy-corbyn-elected-leader-of-u-k-oppositi...
Personally, I think it's co-equal ownership of guilt.
But ya gotta admit it's a lot more fun poking at the Marxists with a stick who claim to be for "the common man" as they fly across the globe on the common man's dime begging the rich for hand outs ;-)
and decrying Global Warming!
lol...yes and decrying "manmade global warming"...their hypocrisy is utterly complete and know no bounds.
I don't believe they even think about it anymore Ben and definitely expect us not to think too much about it, it's like, "Morning honey, I really need to look stupid today and I just read about some glacier melting in the Alps uncovering an old Roman copper mine, so I think I'll just hop on the old 747 and fly half way around the world to admonish people not to hop on 747's and fly half way around the world!"
I guess we're expected to believe the Romans chiseled their way through a mile of glacier ice in order to tunnel into the rock of a mountainside in order to get the copper ore out, cuz we're pretty sure they didn't have manmade global warming inducing 747's back then.
Or sumpin ;-)
offering fress stuff for nuffin' = good change in winning elections. I personally hope he wins, since I'm long eur/gbp for size... :)
Corbyn is also anti-war. The only candidate who will be.
"Corbyn is also anti-war."
He can't be that much into anti-war if he considers warring terrorist groups like Hezbollah and Hamas as "friends."
Corbyn will withdraw the British military from MENA, and end British support for the Ukraine.
hezbollah is simply trying to defend their land against the zionists who are the real terrorists I have no beef with them. I don't know much about hamas admitedly.
What lands? Hezbollah was conceived by Shia Muslim clerics to annihilate “western imperialism” aka any non-Muslim who isn't Shia.
Hezbollah grew out of Lebanese resistance to Israel's invasion back in 1982.
What does ZD1 stand for? "Zionist Dolt One"?
Not a Zionist but just posting the truth:
Hezbollah was conceived by Shia Muslim clerics and funded by Iran.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah
What does BigJim stand for?
Fat lazy Marxist pig on welfare?
Hasbara never quote wikipedia in yoir defense. Learn something from torah borah .
Hezbollah and Hamas are a symptom of the local israel disease.
If you lived where they do, you would likely join up.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter - depends who's writing the reports.
At least this guy seems to have a pair and lives more by principle than expediency.
"At least this guy seems to have a pair and lives more by principle than expediency."
He stole them from someone else and the only principle that he has is take what isn't his.
The real problem with this guy is -- if Labour wins, he will be best buddies with the security services the next morning; and will suddenly see the value of unionized arms factories; and nothing will really change. Most of the War on Terror is clusterfrog false flag baloney, and the spooks don't believe it either, and they can come up with something new, no problem.
It's too bad, because we can all see by now the house is never cleaned in an orderly way. If a firebrand Marxist would really smash the MIC and abolish the finance industry, it would provide the clean slate upon which something better could be written. Who else is gonna do it? Donald "the hair" Trump? Pardon me while I ROFL.
Firebrand Marxists, once in power, are known for their gulags and famines and ruthless brutality and such.
But this time is different. This time its INGSOC.
Any supporting evidence for that BS you are spouting?
Psychopaths who use the idea of Marxism are like that. Mao & Uncle Joe were psychopaths who used political ideology to achieve domination over others, not Marxists.
As an anarchist, I'm no fan of government, but as a realist, I have to welcome someone who has been consistent in what they have been saying for decades, not changing their 'belief' every time there's a smell of election in the air.
The following are a few of the Marxist dictators who were psychopaths that used their Marxist ideology to justify the murder of millions of their own citizens and political opponents:
Stalin
Mao
Pol Pot
Castro
Hugo Chavez
Anarchists are leftist Marxist pigs who use violence to destroy all constituted forms and institutions of society and government, with no purpose of establishing any other system of order in the place of that destroyed.
No doubt another lazy anarchist living on the government dole who has plenty of time to post anarchist leftist bullshit?
I'm trying to think of a Marxist regime that, having gained control of the apparatus of government, did not turn out to be horrifically lethal and destructive. I can't. And that goes for all the closet Marxists as well.
Lazy? not even slightly.
Government dole? never been there.
Anarchists are probably the least likely folk to use violence.
Anarchist just means I don't need a leader, but you've obviously bought the statist bullshit misuse of the word and do need a leader to 'lead' you by the hand through life.
Did you read my comment, regarding Mao and Staliin? Pol Pot would fall into the same group.
Winston Churchill would be in the same group as Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot - killed off 8 million Indians in WW2. Hitler was demonized for killing fewer, but then Churchill did have a hand in writing the history.
Castro and Chavez are very different from the first three, as well.
Try reading history and doing a bit of thinking before spouting your brain-dead crap.
WC was all for gassing the Ayrabs, and a fan of Operation Unthinkable. This involved the use of US/UK and Nazi troops against the USSR at the end of WWII. Thankfully, sensible military minds made him see sense. 70 years later and the military are as co-opted as the politicians so Operation Unthinkable has been brought into action.
"Winston Churchill would be in the same group as Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot"
No, Churchill wasn't a Marxist dictator who killed off MILLIONS of the UK's citizens like Marxist dictators Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot did to their own people.
Definition of an anarchist:
A person who seeks to overturn by violence all constituted forms and institutions of society and government, with no purpose of establishing any other system of order in the place of that destroyed.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anarchist
Fucking anarchist pig, try reading history and doing a bit of thinking before spouting your brain-dead anarchist shit.
Anarchy, properly understood, means an absence of government. The psychos you listed are the very antithesis of anarchy.
Whenever there is an anarchy, there is always a dictator standing by and waiting to fill the vacuum.
The Marxist dictators listed where the results of anarchy that they and their cronies formented.
the following is a list of democratically elected leaders who used their own "defenders of freedom" and "american exceptionalism" ideology to kill thousands of their own soldiers and hundreds of thousands of innocent civillians.
barack obama
george w bush
bill clinton
george h w bush
ronald reagan
and on and on and on
Since WWII,, the U.S. government is directly responsible for the deaths of 20 million people across the globe. Why did we kill 3 million Vietnamese? How about the War onTerror with its 1.5 million?
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Dear Leader will love Corbyn then
Karl Marx theory is good and they didn't have true Marxism in Russia. Today there are computers to be used for the Democratic processes and you no longer need politicians. Marxism is the number one enemy of banking and bankers. I'm certainly for this guy and a limit on all personal wealth to 10,000,000 including corporate ownership. We have a form of Marxism on Q99X2. (no bankers).
If marxism is such a good idea are you gonna have the balls to come with a gun and try to take my stuff or are you gonna be a little bitch and send other men to do it for you?
Fuck you. Come get it.
He's the kind of moron who has nothing and dreams that if they steal from the rest, somehow he'll get more.
Shit never works like that. Under Marxisme, the poor become dirtpoor, the middleclass becomes dirtpoor, the rich move away and slaughter is followed by the elite amongst the people to keep them under control.
Just look to Venezuela how wonderfull Marxisme works...
Those poor bastards can't even wipe their ass without getting shit on their hands.
Communism was an invention of the Bankster social engineers to degrade and destroy the Middle Class and all the economic, political and social freedom that were still somehow able to flourish in their ponzi plantation.
It's ultimate goal is to re-institute feudalism but with de-humanizing mind-control as an added twist along the path of class warfare and destruction that yields resource consolidation to the criminal overseers.
When you have an unlimited budget, unlimited psychopathy, control of the media and a long enough time-line you get to write the history you want.
He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past. ~ George Orwell
Nailed it. You won't read that in "history" books.
"Communism was an invention of the Bankster social engineers to degrade and destroy the Middle Class and all the economic, political and social freedom that were still somehow able to flourish in their ponzi plantation."
Same point I was making below with Communist Manifesto Plank Number Five, interest rates & credit are now in the hands of the State.
What would the world look like if (now I'm assuming a neo-Keynesian monetarist stance) the privately owned ABC Bank of Nmewn offered 5% interest on savings accounts while the "Bank of America" still offered .50%? ;-)
If by 'the State' you mean the Private Central Banking Government that lurks in the shadows and calls all the shots creating debt and control to their benefit and not to the benefit of some populist national government body answerable to the people's representatives, then sure.
But nobody talks about that and using terms like State just clouds over the real forces at work. Will they become the State...sure. They already are in many ways but it is not some organic transformation. It can only be slowed and stopped by people becoming aware of the distinction.
And yeah...competing private currencies is one solution but if you want to protect true nation states and their ability to ensure constitutional protections and resource independence why not a hybrid of labour certificates backed by PMs?...Lots of alternatives but none will succeed until the real cancer is addressed so it can be removed.
Well, in my view, there is nothing "private" about the modern banking systems, anymore than Hitlers, Putin's, the EU's or the PBoC's, they all walk hand in hand with the State and when I say the State I mean governments, it's symbiotic.
This little dog & pony show they like to run with the regulators makes for great press (another separate issue, "the press") with the sheeple but at the end of the day I can guarantee you all they really want is business as usual and saving their own asses.
Again, banks don't have armies, they really don't need them, they have their partners inside THE STATE.
I think you mean THE STATE INC.
That last part is always left off for some reason.
I always look back on the East India Company, the Roman Legions, Saladin etc. with certain amount of awe for the shit they stole without the slightest care in the world.
It was all quite "legal" ya know ;-)
If corporations are people then they can be criminally prosecuted and incarcerated for their crimes. Just like people.
But we know that in such a socialistic equivalence some corporations are more equal than others....
It's not knowledge that is the true power but instead the control of knowledge.
He who controls knowledge controls reality....ask Winston Smith
"If corporations are people then they can be criminally prosecuted and incarcerated for their crimes. Just like people."
But dig deeper palmer, governments are merely another form of a corporation as well, apparently more equal than others? ;-)
Another eleventh-hour attempt from common people to keep alive their hope and beliefs for a better life. I guess it will continue to work as new generations/ages enter the voting booths each year all seeking a change which is always the next election away.
I dreamnt someone stole my bag of cocaine, and now my head hurts from the loss.
"He's the kind of moron who has nothing and dreams that if they steal from the rest, somehow he'll get more."
Says the man who imagines he has something, something which belongs to him, nothing you have ever eally belongs to you, you are allowed to use it and maintain it until someone more powerful wants it, but never own it, you still have it because it hasen't been taken away yet.
Britian needs this man like they need a dose of salts, perhaps he will percipitate a convulsion in the British politic that will clean out a lot of stuff which should be cleaned out!
If Blair is against him he must be good, where can we send our donations to the cause?
Send 'em to:
Room 101, Ministry of Love, Airstrip 1
Britian needs this man like they need a dose of salts, perhaps he will percipitate a convulsion in the British politic that will clean out a lot of stuff which should be cleaned out!
Why not do what the French did and kill a mass of aristos. That would be a start. Then you could go on to killing others that deserve it. Until the cleansing is complete.
Greed makes a man ugly.
Do you have someone come in and organize all your stuff, because you spend all your life working to get stuff that you have no time to enjoy your stuff?
Fuck you, wallow in your shit. I don't want it.
Being a hypocritical leftist anarchist living off of someone's dime on the government dole makes a man ugly and lazy.
So it all comes down to 'Muh Gerns'
Pretty pathetic when you think about it.
Idiot.
I say we take off and nuke q99x2 from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
In the absence of this clown addressing monetary policy he will play right into the hands of the bankers with his staggering committment to expanding the welfare state. He is a fraud and a weak deluded one at that.
Exactly. If the central bank even meekly objects to the monetisation of the increase in government debt, Corbyn's state will 'overide' it.
The banks definitely won't like him.
He believes people have rights and dignity.
I don't see how you can criticise someone for that.
Without the theft that is banking, al but the .001% would be a lot happier and wealthier.
He's an inflationist pure & simple, to say the banks won't like him or that he is anti banking is total rubbish.
You are right. And I think most of the people who go in panic mode on hearing the word Marxism do not have the smallest idea what it really is. Like some of those who replied and perhaps downvoted you.
Marxism is based on the laws and principles of Dialectic Materialism which sooner or later lead to quite predictable developments.
No, he based his entire supposition off of a flwed set of axioms. He was right about there being a class struggle throughout history, but he got the classes wrong. He picked those that were the most superficial, the rich and the poor, when the reality was that it was the debtors and the savers, or the soft money camp and the hard money camp. There are rich and poor members of both types.
http://fofoa.blogspot.com/2010/07/debtors-and-savers.html
Capitalism, unlike Marxism/Communism/whatever works better the closer you get to an ideal implementation. Those other ideologies seem to get worse and worse the closer you get to perfect implementation, but somehow we are supposed to believe that the perfect version suddenly jumps the other way from Hell to Paradise. I somehow doubt that that is the case. Tens of millions of dead people agree with me.
"Marxism is the number one enemy of banking and bankers."
Actually, no, Communist Manifesto Plank #5:
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
One could argue the Federal Reserve is just that thing ;-)
The waters of Marxism are very muddy, the term has been used and corrupted so much, it's hard to even make sense of the concept.
The problem is government - no matter what variety. Government always turns into a monster devouring humanity.
The Federal Reserve IS the US government - the pols are only there to make the gullible think they have a say in things.
Yes.
It's really hard for people to understand for some reason. The graft & corruption proceeds apace as usual BUT it's MY type of graft & corruption...so it's all good...weeeee!!!
Until it's not.
Which brings me to where I say I'm going to PURPOSELY FORCE PEOPLE TO DO SHIT THEY ARE DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED TO DOING...just to make my point.
Maybe then they'll understand ;-)
"Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one..." - Thomas Paine
Marx is a contradiction, you dumb ass. Here is why:
Marx worked as desk clerk for a while. That's why he thought business consists of mechanically filling and stamping forms.
His dad was interior minister in Germany. This is interesting, because this upper class scion postulated that each class has its own science and knowledge, and cannot even understand other classes science and knowledge. Except for Marx himself, who was a champion of the working class. So, the upper-class Marx and his industrialist friend Engels were therefore living proof that Marx's theories are bullshit.
There is no class struggle. Every worker is interested in his own betterment, and that often means competing with other workers for the same job. This shows that worker's interests are anything but aligned. Rather, capitalist and worker interest are aligned, since one buys the labor service the other offers. Both rely on each other.
Read "Socialism" by L. v. Mises for a wholesale refutal of Marxism and other forms of socialism, especially the class struggle bullshit.
"No class struggle?" Are you shittng me? The wealthy rule this country same as they rule England. And the wealthy rule to their benefit and the detriment of everyone else. While the working class of this country have been put through a meat grinder for the last 30+ years, you claim there is no class struggle? You sir are a fucking nitwit.
Today there are computers to be used for the Democratic processes and you no longer need politicians.
Who gets to program the computers? Without opposition I nominate myself. Why would you want anyone else for the job anyway? You capitalist running dogs.
Yes computers will make it easier to sort out any opposition's fate on a massive scale, 10's of thousands can either be sent to work camps or death instantainiously. Some never learn. Gulags for all.
I don't see a problem with this Corbyn fellow. UK's political lanscape of late hasn't been too far from that of a Marxist's wet dream anyway...
If he's really serious, he should nationalize The Bank of England...
Hah ha ha ha ha
MI5, 6 and the Flying Squad will have a battle amongst themselves deciding just how he goes away.
Harry Reid tune-ups anybody? Pedophile investigations, anybody?
I don't think the IRA is an option anymore so they would probably just go with the Muslim boogie-man-du-jour and advance that security theatre.
I do hope the investigations you refer to happen one day soon.
There are enough smoking guns in UK to make the air in Beijing look good.
That would REALLY put the cat amognst the pigeons.
Funny, the guy is anti-involvement in wars in the Middle East and the MIC in general, doesn't like drone wars, and he questions the blind support of Isreal. And that makes him an authoritarian?
No one said you can't be a fascist & not like war.
Mind you, if he gets to number 10 he will advocate war with someone, you watch.
Looks like Ch 4 in Britan hates him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZAn7ZEvwek&feature=youtu.be&t=480
Kim Jong Un doesn't support any of those things either. Must be a land of freedom, that North Korea.
"Funny, the guy is anti-involvement in wars in the Middle East"
He can't be that much into anti-involvement if he considers warring terrorist groups like Hezbollah and Hamas as "friends."
http://www.wsj.com/articles/jeremy-corbyn-elected-leader-of-u-k-oppositi...
Oh noes! Theyse is terrorists!
What does "terrorist" even mean in the context of Israel's multi-decade apartheid and ethnic cleansing campaign? With their "mowing the lawn" operations?
Hezbollah and Hamas defend their respective teritory from Israel's vile racist depredations. Hence, Israel's pathetic attempts to smear them as 'terrorists'.
Want to see real terrorism? Look at what Israelis do to Palestinians. Recently some Israeli heros poured petrol down a Palestinains throat and set him on fire. Even more recently, a group of settler terrorists burnt a Palestinian family alive in their home. The Israeli government has admitted they know who did it, but won't do anything to prosecute the terrorists as it would compromise their insider - the good old 'national security' excuse. Then there is the periodic ritual slaughter of the Palestinian trapped in Gaza. This seems to happen whenever the Israeli government doesn't get its way over something or other. They get their sayonim in Gaza to fire off a few bottle rockets into some field somewhere and bingo - causus belli. Then it is entertainment time, Israeli style. Get out the food and drink, go to the hills overlooking Gaza and watch the IDF drop white phosphorus bombs on schools etc.
Marxist schmarksist. I don't care if the cat is black or white so long as it catches mice. Talk about concrete policy issues and the discussion has substance. Paint your opposition with a fat brush, and you lose all respect.
"Marxist schmarksist. I don't care if the cat is black or white so long as it catches mice."
We've seen these Marxist schmarksist dictator types before in countries like Cuba and Venezuela and it doesn't usually end up well for the masses.
You'll likely end up needing to catch a cat or a mouse to eat when you are starving from the stores being empty due to the failure of central planning.
The masses in Venezuela like it just fine. That's why the Marxists get reelect all the time.
People that don't read don't like Marx.
I read The Communist Manifesto. What a whiny, snively piece of trash written by a date rapist living off the good graces of others. Marx could have been Charles Manson if he was born in a different time. He was not a leader, he was a user.
And didn't he squander not one but two fortunes?
Better read "The Capital". Mind you, it's a very thick and dull book.
A perfect waste of time, that brick of a book...
Funny...Marx was the choice of the banksters in 1917.Ponder on that .
Communism! Karl Marx! Oh my God! Socialists! They are going to kill us all in our beds and destroy the American way of life! They hate us for our freedoms!
Talk about Pavlovs dogs when somebody rings the "communism" bell.
Well they did manage to kill 200 million last century, give or take, so there's that. And yes, they do plan to kill us. Guess you're less intelligent than Pavlov's dog.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ
One of my neo-con buds says that if the Democrats, like the Brit Labour party, the socialists/Marxists get into power in the US they'll take over the health system.
Er wait ......
No, no, it wasn't 200 million the comminists killed. It was 52 billion!!!
and three
Interesting to see how anyone who deviates from the war war propaganda is instantly set upon by the mainstream media.
lol...yeah, ya gotta hand it to Putin, he makes war look sexy & chivalrous again.
Wait...wut? ;-)
q99x2 just wrote a comment from a computer while using the interwebz brought to you by capitalism. He wrote the comment using free speech. But he is against this stuff of course. He believes Marx, who never had a job, and lived off of other people's money.
Marx was the modern day equivalent of the pseudo-intellectual entitled whale army that lives in their mother's basements.
Michael Moore comes to mind........
Good one.
MiKarl Moorx.
My day's work is complete. (/s)
Marx actually had a job. He was desk clerk for a while. That's why he thought business consists of mechanically filling and stamping forms. Also, his dad was interior minister in Germany. This is interesting, because this upper class scion postulated that each class has its own science and knowledge, and cannot even understand other classes. Yet Marx himself thought he understood the working class. Marx himself is therefore living proof that his theories are wrong.
How many times can I upvote that statement? Unfortunately only once.
Evidently 58% of the second largest party in the Empire think he is OK. Personally, I think they (politicians) are all ego-centric narcissists. Left or right, they care about themselves first, the attention they get, and the free drinks at the corner bar.
They are not people you would normally spend time with.
"Many are starting to realize that this could be the downturn for Britain."
Come on Marty...you're a little to the party. Like a few decades...
Come on Marty...you're a little to the party. Like a few decades...
Do not mistake a slide for a collapse. It could be dangerous to your health.
Martin Armstrong is a hysterical idiot who is greatly exaggerating the leftist leanings of Corbyn. To be antiwar (4.5 million killed in US/UK wars in last two decades), against banksters raping the public, against the war criminal Tony Blair should be a badge of honor.
He is not from the crowd of puppets like Cameron, but a real old time polititian. Therefore all mainstream media editor have their instructions posted to them how to create a monster from him. Because, he is dangerous as he would not play by the script...
Kinda like what The Don is going through with our presstitutes of the media.
In case anyone has noticed. We here in 'Murica are ruled by the MIC, spied on by the gubbermint, free speech and assembly are censored and restricted, speaking against the gubbermint will get you branded as a terrorist, rules for the elite and rules for the rest of us....sound familiar? I could swear I've done a Rip Van Winkle and woken up in 1950's Russia...
Corbyn's style is to rob anyone who has more.
This is in strong contrast to the current mob who will rob anyone who has less.
Either way, the people are fucked.
People like Corbyn will inspire violent and the overthrow of capitalism for what they think will be the betterment of man.
To Martin Armstrong!...
Just who the fuck are you to differentiate the U.K.'s current Leadership of sycophant psychopaths that brand their version of capitalism as "Free Markets"! Please don't tell us they are Free!!!
Give Corbyn a chance?!!!
If you see the Torys along with David Cameron hanging from telephone poles, I would say that is an excellent start to his career and leadership abilities. And if he is successful in killing that many British politicians in office send him across "the pond" to the U.S. ... We've got a job for him as President of the United States!
By the way Marty... That is what a post election result looks like without Diebold!!!
America may give Sanders a chance first. Then you Brits might learn by example rather than experience.
As if Stalin and Mao weren't enough.
If only Charles II had succeeded, or if only Cromwell had accepted the title, we might not be in this pickle today.
Oh where is King Arthur when we need him?
I hid Excalibur. Working on it's nuclear smiting capabilities...another few centuries given my latest estimate.
Sincerely,
Merlin
Ever since the Mises Institute did the 2 hate articles on Trump and Sanders there seems to be a noticeable increase in the number of fearmongering articles submitted to ZH that are trying to stir shit up.
Corbyn, Bernie Sanders, Putin, Lula, Chavez, Morales, Tsipras/Varoufaukis...am i seeing a trend here?
Oh wow, Karl Marx, perfect red herring. Let's ignore the fact that powers to be (I.E. Goldman Sachs) are throwing the whole world under the bus rather than accept any financial loss / haircut in what is described as incoming financial Armageddon and instead talk about how "bad" is some 1800's philosopher - semi economist.
Marx is dead.
And Jeb Clinton keeps busting out of the crypt.
Unfortunately his philosophy lives on and is practiced by dictators around the world.
as loaded as i may be, i can still
grasp that this piece is a mix of
horrible writing and ideology entirely
unfounded and misapplied. just try
to read it, i dare you.
poor martin. it is as if he has not
understood anything concerning the
elemental fraud and its corrosive and
destructive trajectory.