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Caught On Tape: Topless Femen Protesters Storm Muslim Debate "Whether Wives Should Be Beaten"
If Europe was concerned about Christian-Muslim cross religious and cultural differences before, and in light of the recent influx of Syrian refugees into the continent, events over the weekend confirmed such concerns are poignantly valid.
This Saturday, during a conference at the Muslim Salon in Pontoise near Paris on the role of Muslim women, two Muslim fundamentalist imams were debating the question of "whether wives should be beaten or not", Telegraph reports that two Femen protester activists, aged 25 and 31, "ripped off their Arab-style cloaks and jumped on to the stage on Saturday evening. One had the slogan “No one subjugates me” inked across her torso. The other bore the words “I am my own prophet."
Chaos immediately erupted. The imams promptly left the stage but not before taking a long, hard look at the half-nued protesters, who grabbed microphones and shouted feminist slogans in French and Arabic before being roughly bundled off the stage by about 15 men and handed over to police. Video footage of the incident shows a man apparently kicking one of the women.
Telegraph adds that according to Ms Shevchenko, a spokeswoman for the feminist group, some of the men shouted “dirty whores” and “kill them”. She thanked the police for protecting the two women, who were taken into custody. They were released after being questioned by prosecutors, who said they would continue investigating what happened. Conference organisers said they would press charges against the activists.
They were not alone in taking exception to the presence of fundamentalist preachers at the event, where shopping and cooking were showcased as appropriate “feminine activities”. One speaker at the conference has reportedly posted calls on social networks for women to veil their faces or risk hellfire and sexual assault in the afterlife.
The showdown took place after nearly 6,000 people signed an online petition against the event. At the same time, twitter posts called for the protesters to be stoned or collectively raped. On Facebook, the conference organisers urged Muslims to “stand together” and attend the final day of the event on Sunday. They said it was “the victim of an anti-Muslim media frenzy."
The chaos that erupted when the women stormed the stage was caught on video.
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Whats up with the pixels? We're all adults here!!
Maybe that's how they really look, all pixelated. No wonder they cover up.
Show me her tits, she wanted them to be seen. WTF Tyler are you a prude, a feminist or gay?
I wonder if Tyler is really Tim Cook.
Arrest the "goons" who manhandled the women for sexual assault. The women should be the ones pressing charges.
If that happened here I'd close my eyes to cover the obese lard
Vive la France,
and titties.
I could give or take France, myself.
And the Imam's pulled a Draghi-faced exit!
Oh thats fucking priceless...lmao!
Oh come on, their purity was being hampered by apostate tittie-temptresses! What were they to do, but preserve their God-like natures and sanctify themselves with a dozen re-centering re-purifying 'allo!arrrrckKbahs!!
'allo!arrrrckKbah! - definition
To put ones fingers in ones ears and go, "lalalalalalaa! aahhlalalalala!", but in Arabic.
Terrified of women, so terrified they have adopted rape as a cultural imperative. This from their great "prophet." Disgusting swine.
"This Saturday, during a conference at the Muslim Salon in Pontoise near Paris on the role of Muslim women, two Muslim fundamentalist imams were debating the question of "whether wives should be beaten or not"
Fuck the French.
Fuck the EU.
Exactly! When an asshole comes and rents the space and tells the organizing hotel or conference center the title of the debate, you know what SHOULD happen in a civilized place.
ARREST and PROSECUTION.
and JAIL.
there is no place for that debate.
and the Fucking French just made animals sentient beings.
I guess the French are not going to make the cut.
:3
Paris like London and the United States ...
Too many fucking Zionist whores that don't want there neighborhood overcrowded even when they know it's their fault it is "overcrowded" becuase they fucked somebody elses neighborhood up that didn't belong to them!...
Who funds Femen?
Soros of course.
Soros of course.
And he had a party for them after this event complete with a bottle of champagne on ice with his liver spotted shriveled erection dangling under a pendulous liver spotted 190 year old belly!
Tittie Power! Outstanding.
Membership has its rewards.
This was a Muslim conference. In France. Helloooooo...
Anytime I see the words"Twitter",or "Facebook" incorporated into any news article,I stop reading it immediately,run the anti-virus scan on my computer,and then go out and take a nice,long dump in the creek behind my home..
So, like Facebook and Twitter, you pollute everything downstream from you.
Social engineering for Muslims. YeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaaa.
They definitely have a sense of style!
Could have had 'should imams be buggered by camels' written on their arses, for an added touch!
Please
don't insult the camels.
All that Abrahamic bullshit has been bullshit for at least 1200 years. Longer, actually, but at least back then it played an integral role in maintaining and sustaining society. Since then, it's been the opposite.
The mullahs and the fundamentalist Protestant types are the same, as far as I can tell.
The one thing I can say for the Catholics is that they don't let just anybody sitting in the outhouse with the Bible set the terms of their religion. And they have a pretty keen sense of humor. So that's two things. But no more. And even both of them by no means outweigh the damage they've done.
You are a small minded numbskull who doesn't understand the basics of what was written thousands of years ago. You gave up trying to understand it in favor of your sinful desires. You need to open your mind to the truth rather than the lie.
Romans 1:20
"I'm not an atheist. How can you not believe in something that doesn't exist? That's way too convoluted for me."
A. Whitney Brown
A cute quip indeed. I'm more of a non-Theist, but only if someone were to ask. I just go about my business using the same reality and cues that everyone else does.
What I don't do is claim belief in a whole set of imaginary realities neither I nor anyone else has ever experienced, and which would contradict everything I and everyone else have ever experienced.
It's the opposite of convoluted. Believing the weird oral tradition repititions of superstitions from very alien cultures thousands of years ago, and trying to reconcile them with reality, is where things get convoluted.
It has less to do with religion as it does with rules. People who are empowered to make rules inevitably make them to suite there needs. Religious leaders are famous for this but no more than political leaders who use their popular ideologies to do the same.
People willingly surrender their rational mind for hope in the unknowable and unproven is suicide....or murder.
Power corrupts. It corrupts the religous as well as nonreligous. The atheists have no better history in controling it than anyone else.
It is an interesting and insidious thing that is subtle and can corrupt even those meaning to do well.
It is part of why I am libertarian in political beliefs.
What I don't do is claim belief in a whole set of imaginary realities neither I nor anyone else has ever experienced, and which would contradict everything I and everyone else have ever experienced.
How do you know what anyone else has experienced?
The truth is that you do not know.
Thus you BELIEVE in a whole set of imaginary realities. The set of realities of what you BELIEVE that others have experienced is rather EVIDENTIAL of your delusion of so called knowledge...from your very own words..
That line is demonstrable of the dissonance which exists within your own mind.
You have no idea that what I may experience as Green you may experience as Red. (Actually there are some people who do experience Green as Red and the opposite...according to EMPIRICAL tests. It is called color blindness. ) Now I am not color blind...And you still have no idea of that which I experience as Green And I have no idea of your experience of the sensation of Green is. I do not see through your eyes.
But the truth is that your personal perception of Green may not be as everyone else's. You do not know. You believe. And that is BLIND FAITH.
I know that I do not know. I have beliefs about most subjective observations in this experience.
I am objective enough to understand that other's experiences are subjective. I do not know what they know. They have no clue about what I know.
How can you walk around in that dissonant and deluded state?
You are so far from the Truth that you are unreal. You are so prideful and arrogant that you are incapable of admitting that you do not know. And that failure, that character flaw, limits your experiences here.
Enjoy your delusion.
Should wives be beaten? Stay classy, Islam. WTF.
Those women deserve to be spanked!
:)
Those women deserve a good tongue lashing across the breasts.
In the least, a good tongue punching in the old fart box !!!
"I approve this message"
Death to faggot allah worshiping pigfuckers!
You know, I just want to condemn the Muslims outright...
The problem is that the moderates are really decent people and I do not want them hurt.
I'd like some special time with that fucker who was kicking that woman while she was down and all those other people were on her. Watching that shit lets me know I do have it in me to er, uh, do serious harm. I got sadistic shit for the man child.
For any fucker who beats women smaller than them because they can, bring that shit over here, weak assed punk bitch. Momma gonna school ya on manners.
My husband fucking knows not to lay a finger on me. Even if he is biggern me by 80 pounds, he gotta sleep sometime... you gotta draw the line in the sand with men if you sniff even a hint of that shit.
Yeah, they're not all assholes for sure...but the few who are sure drive the Asshole Quotient Scale to full tilt.
Theres a pinball joke in there, that no one will get, because it takes an understanding of geometry, physics and how many quarters one can afford to sacrifice to learn the economics of it ;-)
You sound like one of the feminist psychos. In reality more women abuse men than men abuse women. And now on top of that women can completely ruin a man's life just for simple disagreements. Divorce and breakups lead many men to psychological and economic ruin. And on top of that countless men are going to prison for false rape charges.
Men and women are fundamentally different. Women have for millennia been given the right to life and freedom from violence. It is men who do the work and go off to fight, and women are in charge of the domestic life. A fundamental difference also exists in the sexual availability of men and women. Women are much more desired, and combined with their right to life can get away from any situation and start over easily. In other words, they will always be given sanctuary by another man or another community.
This means that real equality between men and women requires higher consequences for the woman if she decides to leave. That these consequences have been done away with are a big reason why men are being completely destroyed in the Western world. Traditionally the consequences would come from the community, a woman would be exiled. This is a huge consequence for women (now it is reversed and men are exiled after a breakup/divorce). Why domestic violence becomes an issue is because of the isolation of men and women in private houses, the domestic sphere is isolated from the community.
Men should not be beating women, but women should not be thinking of killing or castrating their husbands. This is why I say you sound psychopathic. Having such thoughts severely divides men from women and limits the possible connection between them. If violence is really a concern then you need the ability to get away, not meet a bruise with death as that is absurd vengeance.
In many situations there are no consequences for women, this is why they now run around acting like men. In other countries if a woman acted the way she does in America she would be slapped and perhaps even spit on. And she would deserve it. If a man has to resort to that he also should have the ability to walk away afterwards. Sometimes irrational behaviour gets so out of control that violence is the only response. So no, women should h=not have a guaranteed sanctuary from all violence. Some deserve what they get.
If you do something that deserves a slap then you deserve it, plain and simple, man or woman. One should never beat a woman, but the sacred right from violence is also a slippery slope. This law has led to men being the victims of abuse in the West. Women shouldn't be the ones drawing lines.
I am a woman who was beaten by her father, bad. He beat my mother worse.
I am a woman who grew up and was in a relationship where she got hit as well.
I am a woman who won't take shit ever again.
It's real fucking easy to understand.
You make good points, I don't mean to invalidate you.
If I sound like a psycho because I am willing to fucking defend myself...
Then I am a psycho.
Be afraid.
Be fucking afraid.
I am out there and if you want to hit women, you might hit me (someone like me) one day.
Those men who want to hit women need to be afraid they will pick me.
I have a right to self defense.
When did that become a problem on this website?
I'll tell you what else. If I saw someone unfairly beating you, I would try to help. Even if I am probably a lot weaker than you. I don't care. Wrong is wrong. End of it.
You are just a person. You have a right to self defense, just as any man you fly off the handle and attack has a right to defend himself against you. Stop hiding behind your sex (like most feminist) and do not expect your gender to make you better than any other person, man or woman.
A film study was done where, in public, a woman actor yelled at her "boyfriend" and starting hitting him. The women who walked by and smiled, some clapped and one or two even started shadow boxing in celebraton of her beating her man. Even a cop walked by and did nothing.
Reverse the roles and all those women would have screamed abuse!
Dick.
1. MsCredent is not responsible for the resuts of your study. Nor is she hiding behind her sex. She asserts the right to self-defense.
I have never seen it in public but I have seen in " simi- private" (parking lot) several times where the man will slap a women for something she said. Not cool. Jerks like that are one reson that reason that I feared a friend might be charged with a one-punch homicide. (til he started breathing and woke up). Real men do not put up with a man slapping or kicking a woman 2/3s his size.
It is also just genetics. Strong men come from intelligent strong mothers, not cowed sheep. Only weak men require weak wives.
Not a single woman objected to the beating the man was getting in the study. This is just another example of the feminist saying one thing but only for themselves.
I have seen many time where a woman has hit, slapped repeatedly, thrown drinks or food on a man or thrown other objects and has verbally degraded his looks, manhood or finances. Not once did I see anyone do anything but gently pull the woman away.
And a real man does not let a man slap and kick a PERSON who is 2/3 his size.
Strong men come from strong MEN just a often as women. The best women had a strong MALE father figure while they grew up. As far as weak women. You are very wrong. I have know many fine men who had weak wives. Those men created a marriage where those women thrived and raised wonderful families. Only weak women require weak men (or women).
You are a ZH treasure, MsCreant. Smart and tough, you more than hold your own around here...
Oh please, stop with the ass kissing.
I'm not kissing ass. I've never met her, don't know her, & never will. However, she's been on ZH for a long time & has always come across as smart with no BS.
More ass kissing. If she was a he, you wouldn't do it and you know it.
Bullshit JLee.
I appreciate all genders of strong smart clear people and I absolutely love MsC. I also though, have gone out with a true crazy-bitch, in the 1980s, who would not go away, and was abusive and had fits of rage, but mainly because she was so emotionally weak, insecure, desperate and abused by her mother, long before I met her. She simply could not calm down or feel secure. Sad really, but both sexes do this.
When I was a late teen I also treated one of my girlfriends like a piece of shit, and boy do I regret doing that to her. I made her feel bad, and she was very beautiful person, and really deserved none of it. I never beat her or harmed her like that, I just made her feel like shit for almost no reason, which is probably worse, and a very regrettable thing to do to a friend and lover. The point is, we all make mistakes, and we all do learn, and we all do change, if we want to grow past that.
But some just don't change, they are being actively taught to wallow in pigshit thinking and to stil call themselves responsible adults, and 'holy' religious people. They are often the very worst offenders and Islam is easily about the worst of all human being sub-cultures for promoting that sick disgraceful behaviour. That's undeniable.
But what really bothers me here is that conference on that topic was occurring in an advanced European land at all.
I don't care about you views on free speech and censorship, but that is not on.
It is gutlessness that allows that to go on, shameful gutless stupidity, writ large in Europe in Sept 2015. What fools you are being Europe! If you are a country of principles and not just soft-touch goodie-two-shoes dumb-dumbs, that are too stupid for your own good, then where hell are these touted principles hiding? You are spineless, and lost is a sea of demented intellectual bad-wiring that you can't break free of.
Forget neo-nazism, you are your own worst threat vectors!
Why would any women, or man for that matter, vote for such an intolerable idiotic untenable situation to continue? Or for multiculturalism to make a total mockery of intelligence ,and the obvious immediate need to stop all this rubbish?
Why did the French State at the demands of the society, get rid of the Roma criminals infesting France just a couple of years back? So what are you goign to do about this at least as egregious intollerale nonsense?
That crap should be freely discussed, oh yes, it should, but in a cave in some ME shithole that is about to be bombed into a mass grave.
And these shit-for-brains Islamic morons in 'near Paris' should all be mass arrested - RIGHT NOW - and their IDs all checked, and be deep back-grounded, and appropriate decisions made on whether they should be deported on unsuitable character grounds, and as incompatibile with intelligent people in a Europeans State, and their mistakenly given citizenship revoked and extinguished.
If they want that behavior and they believe in all that, that is not us and that is not on.
We should stomp on that crap out so hard that those bastards are squeezing out between our toes. And if the non-integrating incompatible 'Muslim community' are not up for that to end this nonsense, permanently within Europe they really have no reason or excuse to be in Europe, or calling themselves Europeans. these people have been cut way too much slack, and they have failed us and themselves.
Enough of this rot.
To be clear, I mean that we should not go into relationships thinking this way in regards to violence. If we have violence in our thoughts at the beginning then perhaps we are not ready for a relationship. I do not go into relationships thinking 'how will I control this woman?' And similarly she should not be going in thinking 'how will I enact my revenge on this man if he ever touches me?' That distances the individuals, and many women now think this way due to feminism.
You should be able to defend yourself, of course. I think women would be smart to learn Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. But if a woman warns me that if I ever hit her then she'll take revenge on me I will walk away. That suggests to me that the woman has already judged me and made a barrier between us because I am a man and because of the societal suppression of men. She just sees me as a clone at that point and has not judged me for what I have done as an individual.
I was mainly taking issue with this pre-emptive stance and the vengeful escalation of the violence mentality, as I don't think it is fair considering the reality of Western relationships. Women are idolized in Western society, so comparing how Islamism treats them to what happens in the West is unfair.
I can see where you're coming from, I was also abused as a child and such things harden us.
You have a good point about how you go into a relationship. My husband understands where I came from, he gets why I am the way I am. Makes him my hero. I don't think it is all healthy. I am glad you can understand how I got here. Does not give me the right to abuse anyone. I do know none of us (not you or me) should take it. I have attracted the ones who want to try it, in the past.
BTW, I am very aware men are abused too, in some ways worse. We treat our men like shit. Buck up, don't cry, be quiet. How did my father get to be the way he was? It was handed down through generations. I have never laid a hand on my kid.
I understand why you would walk away, you detect some toxins you don't want to be involved with. I would not be the woman for you (or one like me, too many issues). I do need to let someone know how it is. All fine. No crime, no foul.
Peace.
I am a woman who was beaten by her father, bad. He beat my mother worse.
Every woman ever born claims they were either beaten or raped. It's like pulling the race card. It's nonsense and just an excuse to control men.
That happens for sure.
And sometimes they definitely incite it, I have seen women do that a few time, and some times they deserve to get punched-out just like a man should and would be for doing the same things.
I had a female neighbor recently, a mother no less, that really deserved to get her face smashed in for the way she was behaving. She will get hers, but in the end I managed to get rid of her, legally, anyway. But no thanks to the QLD police force who were a useless bunch of incompetent lazy insulting overrated shit-stirring anti-social bastards or at least the ones I dealt with sure were - and despite that experience I must admit not all of them are like that. Someone else would have just smashed her face in though.
But what MsC is claiming is also often entirely true and I have no problem accepting her claim on face value.
So what's your problem with this, really?
A lot of men are pussies, they think about a woman hitting them and they get both afraid and insulted. Just at the thought alone. Don't know how to act.
One of the reasons I write for Diamond the way I do is because I enjoy in particular how she eats men. Rather casually, you understand. Nothing personal, she's hungry and you are male, she eats you. Takes a few days, then she rests, then she goes out and kills another one. She's a large animal and well there's not much else, you know?
Fortran is just plain flat out sadistic. Setting people on fire. What a bitch.
There are a couple places in the story where one or the other of them gets into a tight spot with a couple guys think they are all that. Much hilarity ensues, of course. That and total, instantaneous carnage.
If I was a girl I'd be six kinds of murderous all the time. Like a tiger, all over knives and liking it. Go out for walks after dark alone just to bait some stupid fuck into stepping over the line, shovel some of that crap out of the gene pool. Cops could run around telling all the pervs, hey you better get inside that crazy bitch is on the prowl tonight.
Like a tiger, man-eating.
Have you ever considered why that might be? If a man hits a woman he has absolutely nothing to gain. It will not even be seen as self-defense even if it is. The man will face prosecution, possible murder by the police, potential murder by a gang of white knights coming to the woman's rescue, possible beatings in jail, isolation from the community, and vengeance.
It may not have to do with the man being afraid of the woman, but him knowing that he is being baited and the woman stands strong because of the police state behind her.
The rest of your post is just sickness. Part of the feminine nihilism that rules male fantasy now.
https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.wordpress.com/2015/08/19/just-dont-aim-fo...
Feminism? Don't make me laugh. As for sickness -- absolutely! The insanity starts at sunset. Get your freak on or stay inside.
If we really were to follow your logic in this issue, you should be ready to be violent at the slightest provocation towards all FATHERS, and not men in general, as should everyone who has ever been beaten by their fathers.
I hit my father once when I was 18, not in self defense, but because he got on my nerves. My father, according to your reasoning, should adopt the aforesaid attitude towards all SONS in the world. I myself was hit by both my mother and my father, which means I should subject all fathers AND mothers to that same treatment. But of course I don't, not even towards my parents - especially my mother, btw - who did hit me when I was a child, like many other parents all over the world. That's because I am not an idiot who lets my emotions influence my thoughts.
BTW, you do sound like a psycho, as does everyone who is overly concerned about self-defense. So fuck you, those imams and those feminist activists with a big fuck-off trident snatched from the devil's own hands.
I think you go a step too far, Bach. You can use violence to defend yourself and I do not see her threatening all men, all father's or anyone else with violence without provocation.
I could give you a dozen situations I would use violence and I could give you a dozen counter-threats.
While you have some point to make I think you fail to distinguish.
Just because someone hits you doesn't necessarily mean you hit them back or villify them for the rest of their life. There is room for compromise and negotiation. That's what some self-defense advocates utterly fail to understand. For any reasonable person self-defense should be the last alternative after all the others have been exhausted, and there's no dearth of such alternatives in our society. Anyone who says "if a man wants to hit a woman he better watch out" is a psychopath as far as I am concerned, regardless of their personal woes. Life is hard and complex enough already without them introducing this flavour of blind vengeance upon it.
The ironic thing of course is that these people will shit their pants if confronted with a man who actually enjoys violence.
I was a 'cheeky' child or so I was repeatedly told, sometimes with a hard slap. I would have called it accurate and truthful. But I took no crap from my manipulative hated mother. One day when about 16 she sat me down at the kitchen table to lay down the law, and I quite naturally met her on her level, without even thinking, and looked her directly in the eye, and let her know she was not my boss (without saying a word). I was already grown-up and independent, and didn't know it, and nor did she.
Well she did her usual trick of trying on the bitch-slap to the face trick. Problem was, I was extremely fast, always have been, and she transmitted her movements and without thinking I had an unforeseen Chi-powered "Bruce Lea moment". My hand flew out and automatically precisely caught her wrist with a perfect economy of motion. An action so fast that I still did not know it had happened. But I did not even think still, I held her eyes fixed solid, and probably unblinking, and squeezed so hard it must have almost broke her wrist. I was a strong little bastard and no one could beat me in an arm wrestle at school. I didn't even have to think I just locked on her eyes and she knew the jig was probably up. Then I said this in a quiet slow and low voice:
"you don't hit me."
She immediately tried to break my grip to take another swing bitch-slap attempt, but could barely move her arm even a centimeter and I squeezed even harder and she winced in pain. I just glared at her, I didn't even think a single thought the entire time, the words came out all by themselves, they didn't even seem to be coming from me, at the time.
I had done nothing but defend myself by making her unable to attack me, and all she could come back with then was to spit out with pure venom, "You're just like your father!", saying it like it was the greatest of possible insults, that she could possibly muster. I just glared, and she was clearly in pain after that, then I let her wrist go (again without thinking at all) and said not a word, and walked away.
She never tried anything like that over the next 10 years of increasingly irregular contact, but I also have not had anything to do with her now for about 25 years straight and never will again. She could die horribly and I would not go to her funeral or visit the grave. I wouldn't even want to know. And that was all her own doing, as I never once did anything to her, but be exactly the person she gave birth to.
But I was beaten by her father, my grand father, and again for no justifiable reason, he was an extreme disciplinarian and I hated the bastard even when I was only four years old. When he died I did not give a fuck and I lost all respect for my otherwise wonderful grandmother, for allowing him to act that way and wanted nothing more to do with her after that, either.
So I know my mother was beaten badly by her dad, and she thus had that in her, so treated me and my siblings very badly and projected hate at me as a boy which totally destroyed any chance of a relationship with her, from about 5 years old. And being the precocious relentless disinterested observer I was from a very young age, I was never going to accept being lorded-over by people that I had already grasped had serious hypocrisy and consistency problems, that could only 'deal with', via abuse, threats, demands and beltings.
And in truth my childhood was better than most, but it was not until I got to my teens and visited friends homes and met their parents and saw the way they treated their children, i.e. like actual small people, that I fully understood in stark relief that my mother was a broken empty shell. I realized that she had never grown up, that she had never developed into what she could have been. Her being was not just stunted, it was malformed, and she was apparently unable to recover from that. Perhaps that lesson was the greatest thing I ever learned from her, and she didn't even intend to teach me it. What not to be - for that I can at least genuinely thank her, and her parents also.
I could pretend it was at least worth it, redemptive to learn the hard way, but it wasn't, it was just misery and awefulness until I was independent enough to leave and never go back.
Excellent story, Element.
In a shorter version, my father had a dark upbringing with many hard drinking violent step-dads in an age where it was a scandal. My grandmother was attracted to the losers, loveable or otherwise like a moth to a flame.
When my dad got back from Marine Corps still a teenager he found his last and most despised step dad beating his mother, my grandmother. He gave him a taste of his own medicine and step dad left and never returned.
I think his life was very dark at times as a kid and he will never tell me all of it. Overall, he coped pretty well by becoming a pretty independent and resourceful little cuss and a class clown at times.
What I appreciate to this day is that he broke that mold. My mom was from pretty white-bread Ozzie and Harriet. Between the two, I and my siblings had a pretty good uprbringing.
To break the mold rather than being broken by it is a phenomenal accomplishment. It is against the norm.
My kids got much better than my dad because of him breaking the mold. I expect and hope they will do a bit better than me.
Thanks for that FG, I don't know what it is that makes people break the mould, as you put it, but I'm glad they do, we need a lot more of it. I always encourage people to grow into themselves, not into something else, for someone else, or for some idea. Mostly we're fucked up in advance of birth by the preceding damaging culture and system we are born into. We're handicapped from the beginning to not get past that.
I think it's safe to say that the period from 1860 to 1960 was one of very significant brutal social engineering and cultural repression, and of control to mold the effects on the next generation, and we all have suffered the outcome of that in various ways, in the Anglo countries anyway.
I don't hold a grudge about it, what's the point? I get it. But I just can't be controlled anymore, and yet I'm far from counterproductive, or out of control, or immoderate.
The truth is our natural human instincts are far superior to all the social engineering constructs that we were fed, by the social engineers that preceded our generation's birth. And breaking the mold is just us returning to our own natural being.
I tried to be understanding of my mother for another decade as I grew up FG, but I got to about 27 and it was impossible. She was hopeless at any sort of connection even with her own children. My siblings all felt the same thing and said so to me. The shell of a mother I detected when I was 5 was still there when I was 27. So in the end I could only be happy with a 100% permanent break. In retrospect I wish I'd done it so much earlier, I'm sure my teens and early 20s would have been far better if I had. But the whole thing did make me reject more than just her, I basically rejected the entire system I was born into, because she was just another damaged human 'product' of that abysmal society. I see people talking nostalgically about it now, but the glossiness does not tally with my experience of its bleakness. It's like watching history being rewritten, as I know that right now is a far better time to be living in. So for me, when I see people complain, whine and bitch I think, "You really don't know how good you've got it". For as crazy as this current system and society is the one I came from was in all truth, actually far worse.
So that's why I respond with some skepticism to much of the excessive doom and complaining that occurs bout now and the near future. I think most humans just don't know what they've got until its gone.
But most humans also haven't broken the mold and are still constrained by it's bullshit storied and fabrications, and this is what makes them miserable and complain.
The source of their discouragement, angst and bleakness and perception of dark problems on the horizon is not the system so much as their failure to break free from the construct and grow into those natural instincts and way of operating they already have, which is so unlike the system that was imposed on their thinking, which is making them miserable. Naturally they hate it.
I don't hate it, because I'm not a part of it anymore, haven't been for a long time now, even though I live immersed in it 24/7. I'm just not at all like the people around me. I live the way and think the way I want, I don't refer to any thing any part of the society says to think or expects of me. My frame of reference is completely away from the system, society and state, so the misery of it that others feel simply does not impact me. I don't think almost anyone understands what I mean by that. I can barely remember what it was like to be part of the system-mindset, it seems like another life time ago, but it ended on 19th Nov, 2001 at about 1:20 PM. One moment I was part of the system mindset and loathing it, and like flicking a switch, in an instant I was out, I was fully myself, not a construct mind any more. I've been out ever since. It just doesn't reach me anymore, it has no traction, it can't entrain me. I wish it would happen to everyone, the entire world would be done with this control system, and far less conflicted and unhappy people.
I hope that came out making some sense to you FG.
One of the better posts to ever appear. I think I get it and kind of get the feel of what you are saying. Most importantly, it is a good story.
When you take ownership of yourself, it is the beginning of freedom and infinite possibilities. In some cases, like yours and my dad's you have to make a break from the past and prevent it from becoming your present and your future.
Well written.
I see it as a "Don't tread on me." thing and not some psycho-stuff.
If we were talking about fighting for our liberty in a political sense most would applaud you.
I'd say roughly the same things to Muslims who try to implement that crap here.
BTW, decent old school men beat the crap out of wife beaters. I actually knew of a case in my neighborhood when I was young.
Nowadays, you'd get thrown in jail because the State has actually usurped all authority and all right to use force, at least to the 95th percentile.
Women shouldn't be the ones drawing lines.
Thumbs up!
My brother has gone to jail more than a few times just from his wife calling the cops and telling them he hit her during an argument. American women are evil.
Minneapolis Police experiment. Google it. All this crap is based on one false experiment.
While my experience decades ago comports with your comment, the system has become smarter than you think.
No matter what you think of the degree of intelligence of policemen, nobody likes to be played for a fool. The women have way overplayed this "he hit me" card. If the cop isn't there to personally witness the assault, he has no arrest power. I've had guys tell me their woman was calling 911 and faking screams in between pleas for help while she bashed her own head against the door jamb to get a little blood flowing and a bruise or two. The cops show up and take a police report. They ask the woman if she wants to go to the hospital. She refuses, because the ER would be really fucking aggravating and probably take half the night, and she knows she isn't really hurt. The cops usually try to persuade the guy to leave for awhile, maybe get a room at the Motel 6 for one night, until the she-banshee can calm down a little. The police report goes to the city attorney's desk, who, absent serious physical harm, typically refuses to prosecute based upon no more evidence than the women's testimony vs. the man's testimony. The woman is advised she can apply for a civil restraint Order if she is truly afraid of the guy.
If the woman has any serious injuries, or if the man has prior convictions for this sort of thing, then the system will let a jury sort out the truth at trial. Some women are total frauds. Some men habitually beat their woman. Some woman habitually beat their men. People should not hit each other, or file false police reports.
A huge problem with these cases is that the battered woman, once she cools down, oftentimes is quick to figure out that her guy is her meal ticket, and as much as she would like him to be more civil during their disagreements, she decides that she will be much worse off if he goes to jail and ends up with a permanent criminal record that will impact his career or job prospects. It is certainly a "stuck between a rock and a hard place" sort of decision for the woman. But if she tells the prosecutor that she wants to drop the charges, or that she will not testify, the prosecutor then threatens her with prosecution or contempt of court charges rather than simply drop the case.
Your brother's wife is evil, and some police and/or the city attorney where he lives are stupid suckers, unless, of course, your brother is a hot head who antagonized the cops when they showed up and got taken down to the station not for anything he did with regards to his wife, but because he stomped on some cop's ego to the point where the cops had to show him who had the bigger swinging dick. It isn't right, but that happens a lot.
Watch 'Gone Girl'. It's only fiction, but tell me that psycho bitch didn't deserve being thrown in front of a truck.
Preach it, sistah.
Mscreant you prove just how fucking ignorant Western culture is about the Middle East.
Lets face it the same shit we perpetrated on the indigenous tribes of North America after the white settlers savaged them and not the other way around proves that in our 239 year history we are still egocentric white and racist to the core now as much we were then when we set foot on somebody elses turf that we coveted by degree!..
Pat yourself on the back now for at least being tolerant enough to give a home in your country to those less fortunate that your government raped, pillaged and murdered to covet what was once their home!
Did you stop to consider that some of that anger you might be witnessing is just pent up resentment to what I said in the previous sentence?!!! If I were a muslim I sure as hell would have plenty of anxiety and suspicion if a Anglo-American/European guy was hitting on my cousin, sister or wife after what we've done to them!
Can't wait for your bullshit "Zionist" induced rebuttal!!!
Most people feel justified in their beliefs and actions. To them their grievances are very real. What are we going to do about it?
You are a moron. You know, the American Indians did most of the same stuff to each other including canabalism in the Caribbean. Idiots like you want to portray them as tree hugging, buffalo herding, peace-pipe, peyote smoking, long haired red hippies.
It is not that they deserved all we did and I think any reasonable American knows there were some definite injustices. However, they were often brutal to each other and they would be brutal to you if you met them back then, too. Let the Dog Soldiers kidnap your daughter and see if you call it even.
How do you suppose they would have fared if the first people here were the Nazi's, Tokugawa and the Samurai, Ghenghis Khan, the Romans, or even ancient Babylonians?
Odds are we would not even have known who they were. It was a culture that was roughly 4000 years behind the Europeans and Asians. There was no way they were coming out even.
When you throw in the "Zionist" thing I know you are an idiot unless you are talking about Mormons.
You got that right FG, I've been say that about this childish dumb bastard for some time now.
Psychopathic thought constructs need to be wiped from the earth. These thoughts can be imported into young weak brains, and become “wetware.” Normal humans should not stand idly by while psychopathy spreads.
I’m surprised these women weren’t hunted down and given clitorectomies; they may be marked for destruction or slavery now.
The Talmud also has to be brought under scrutiny for its many psychopathic statements, as uttered by the “sages.”
Here are some Qur’anic gems inciting believers into killing/murder. These are quotes from below link:
http://godofreason.net/new-page-25.htm
Quran: 9:111, Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons (lives) and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur’an.
In addition, a strong support and explanation to the verse: 9:111 was given by Merciful Allah by the following:
Quran-4:74- Let those fight in the cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether he is slain or gets victory (i.e. killed or be killed) - Soon shall We give him a reward of great (value).
Quran-4:95- Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons (sacrifice both life and wealth) than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward.
Quran-3:169-: Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord; (Here Allah is saying that those jihadi who dies [commit suicide] is not dead but he will be living with Allah).
Now, I do not believe that anybody can have slightest doubt that the above clear invitations (from Allah) for the ardent fanatical believers can very easily convince the blind pukka (pure) Muslims to become a time-bomb (suicidal) in order to kill infidels/kaffirs—for the cause of Allah!
The above verses (9:111; 3:169; 4:74; 4:95) are clearly ordering devout Muslims “to kill and be killed”; that is, Allah is teaching Muslims to sacrifice their own lives (to commit suicide) in His cause (Allah’s cause) in order to kill infidels (enemy of Allah).
This single verse (9:111) very precisely justifies suicide bombing—the most lethal, most terrifying, most inhuman and most successful weapon majority Islamic terrorists are using today to kill Allah’s enemies. It is the perfect example (without any ambiguity) of the suicidal method Allah has prescribed for devout Muslims. In the verse above (9:111) Islamic Allah clearly saying that: He (Allah) purchased life and property of believers in exchange of lustful and unimaginable lucrative heavenly pleasures for those who will die (commit suicide) for the cause (killing kaffirs) of Allah. After this, Muslims (ardent followers of Quran) do not need any more killing instructions for their motivation to kill kaffirs/infidels. For good reason we can sum up that the Islamic God (Allah) is the most dangerous deity having unlimited vengeful, cruel, intolerant, intimidating and war-loving blood thirsty divine entity.
But this is not all! Quran is loaded with numerous (killing) verses ordering the ardent followers to carry out endless killing of infidels/unbelievers until only Muslims remain to inhibit this Earth owned by Islamic Allah. Here are some more examples:
Quran-8:39, And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere (in this earth of Allah).
Quran-9:29, Fight those who believe neither in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth (Islam), even if they are of the People of the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
Quran-3:85, “If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).”
Quran-9:39, Unless ye go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. [Allah’s hatred to those who are reluctant to join Islamic jihad]
Quran-9:73, O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed.
Quran-8:65: “O Apostle! Rouse the believers to fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred; if a 100 , they will vanquish a 1,000 of the unbelievers..”
Quran-8:66:”….if there are a 100 of you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish 2,00, and if a 1,000 , they will vanquish 2,000 (two thousands) with the leave of Allah…” [This fabulous verse was written in the diary of Muhammad Ata the leader of 9/11 terrorists].
Quran-4:78: “Where ye are, death will find you, even if ye are in Towers, built up strong and tall” (Perhaps Twin towers was meant here?)
Quran-2:193, And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression
Quran-2:216, Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you
Quran-5:33, The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;
Quran-4:89— “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades (change to other religions), seize them and kill them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-” (Punishment for the apostates).
Quran-9:5, But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem.
Quran-9:28, O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. (This verse is a glaring example how much hatreds Islam possess against non-Muslims).
Quran-8:67—“It is not fitting for an Apostle that he should have prisoners of war until He thoroughly subdued the land….” (Allah insisting Prophet to kill all the prisoners, and should not keep any surrendered prisoners alive)
Quran-8:17—It is not ye who Slew them; it is God; when thou threwest a handful of dust, it was not Thy act, but God’s…..” (Allah said, the killing of surrendered soldiers were done by the wish of Allah)
Quran: 9:23: "O ye who believe! Take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love Infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, they do wrong". [Quran is asking Muslims even to go against their own father and brothers in respect of religious faith]
Quran: 3:28: “Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah”
Quran: 5:45: We ordained therein for them: “Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear. Tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal.” (Does this verse sound humane?)
47:4- “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), strike off their heads; at length; then when you have made wide Slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives”: thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.”
9:123: “Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you.”
2:191- “Kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from wherever they drove you out.”
8:12- Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." [Allah is really most merciful]
The Qur’an is full of heinous, inhuman, and utterly dreadful cruel verses. The main themes of Quranic or scriptural instruction are: pursuance by advice, then by intimidation/coercion, then by force (killing, fighting, maiming etc), and in return plenty of heavenly reward from Allah. We can find hundreds of cruel hateful and utterly inhuman verses throughout the Qur’an. The above Qur’anic scriptures incited early Muslim Jihadis of 7th century period to kill thousands of non-Muslims and other infidels. During the early period of Islam, especially during Islamic expeditions by Prophet Muhammad himself while he was in Medina, thousands of infidels were brutally killed (beheaded) by the Jihadis. These same Quranic verses are still inciting devout/fanatical Muslims.
OTOH, the muslims have every right to discuss or even advocate whatever want - including "beating wives' - as long as they don't DO ANYTHING.
Freedom of spreech includes things some don't like, not just freedom to speak about what the person judging believes is OK. I'm getting more convinced that it isn't true freedom the freedom loving crowd wants, but the correct kind of freedom. Disgusting. Let them talk about whatever they want. Beat a woman it's assault, and we already have laws for that.
Get me off this fucking planet.
So where do you stand on liberalism? I believe its dangerous to the country and should be outlawed...The individual has every right to be liberal but any group or parties of liberals is strictly forbidden...even considered treason.
The danger in liberalism comes from being able to take from others without consent. I have nothing against whomever pooling and using their own resources for their ideas. Hell, that's what an organized charity is after all. There is nothing wrong with that, and as long as it's my choice to drop a fiver in the bin for causes I support I say good luck.
Taking resources from me no matter the end cause is theft, even if I agree with the outcome. Language shifts to support the con men, and the power to outlaw and hang a group is also the power to outlaw and hang YOUR group. Nobody should have that power in a free society.
Blow the 1st Amendment out your ass, hippie. We only support popular, Fox News Approved(tm) ideas.
They didn't cause the chaos, it was when they put the ewe slide up on the screen when things got rolling. They ought to equalize rights and enforce the beating of all muslims.
Seems the thinking of most men goes out the window when they see a little skin. Tyranny is fine if there's breasts and circuses.
Not advocating what these men did, but women in the West are simply out of control and influenced by the Judeo-Christian left psyops. If you have not read up on feminism then you are grossly misinformed. Their ideas are similar to Sharia Law and advocate total submission of men to a feminised state, in some cases advocating sterilisation and eugenics.
Many of the radical feminists from the 60s and 70s are now in high-level government and NGO positions in Canada, Scandinavia, and much of Europe (many States in the US too now). Creating a false dichotomy of women's rights and Islamism does nothing but show one's ignorance. The ideas are fundamentally the same as they believe in state suppression of individuals. The only difference is that feminists want women in control.
A single word suffices in this case, General ...
Bullshit !
Prove me wrong. But before trying, watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn3cHsHnUPM
Total bullshit. There are probably a few 100s fems like those you discribe against a couple of hundred million, probably a billion men who totally believe that women are subhuman and should be ruled by and at the pleasure of the whims of men.
That does not preclude the existance of the other 3 billion who feel that women and men are companion enities with equal and different strengths, weaknesses, rights and responsibilities.
The thing is that where women are treated with respect and dignity and determine their own fate, the population is not growing out of control. It is in those cultures and countries that practice competitive breeding as a form of agression where women are forced to give birth to rape babies that one has explosive population growth that overwhelms the women and the infastructure and finally every other creature on the planet.
If you want to talk 'total bullshit' then look how you responded to a comment about Western women with some bleeding heart foolishness about how women in the Third World are treated. Do you write for The Guardian?
And why are we going off into overpopulation territory? Do you even logic?
Because Private Am, no country that allows a women to control her own fertility has an overpopulation problem.
Overpopulaion is the RESULT of RAPE, marital and otherwise.
Yes, as a matter of fact their populations are shrinking at an alarming rate and without the prodigious breeders of the religious world would likely disappear off the face of the earth. The modern man spends far too much time on internet porn and online shopping to have time to reproduce. Besides, children are just too much work, responsibility and personal sacrifice. Something the modern man has no use for.
No it is an evolutionary response to scarce resources. There are many overpopulated countries where women have the right to control their fertility. And on the question of fertility - why do you think abortions are most frequent in precisely those regions of the world where contraceptives are cheaply and abundantly available?
Seems people have not been paying attention. So here is some more information on how far this has gone:
Feminism is the Establishment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KASgSBfY1k
Police Investigation of Students for Misogynistic Posts
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/dalhousie-dental-school-inv...
Men's Rights Activists face mass protests and are called rapists and pedos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx7PIIA60XQ
Scientist Pressured Out of Job for Discussing Women in Science:
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jun/13/tim-hunt-hung-out-to-dry-...
Liberty, Equality, Brotherhood?
Black Swan event, Muslim style.
Where are the X-ian men? Hiding behind discarded bras?
Bush said it best, “It’s a clash!”
So Zerohedge is now censoring? Whys that? Show the truth tyler and dont join the fascists! We dont need pixels etc!
Here's the uncensored one. Not much more to look at.
http://www.rt.com/news/315221-femen-france-muslim-disrupt/
I can't even imagine the debate.
Imam #1 - "You should beat the women if they don't serve you well".
Imam #2 - "No, you should only beat the women under certain circumstances"
So then women come out and flash titties.
What is the brilliant response from the twitter crowd? "At the same time, twitter posts called for the protesters to be stoned or collectively raped."
Collective raping - gang bang. That ought to teach the gals who is boss. And, you feel so much more relaxed after you come. Yeah, that's the ticket.
This collective rape shit...
You want our sloppy seconds? Really?
What the fuck is wrong with these men? They are repressed fags who can't fuck each other so they want to collectively rape us to wallow in man jizz the only way they can.
FUCK YOU!
dunno 'bout beatin' the wife, but I sure wouldn't mind givin' those titties a good lashing with the tip of my tongue...
Muslim "men" are weak minded. More weak minded than almost everyone. They are so weak minded that they require women to be covered head to toe. They are so weak minded that any exposure of flesh sends them crazy. Fucking cunts! Like fundies here in the USA, weak minded idiots who need some "Easter bunny" or "tooth fairy" to tell them how to live thier lives.
Religion IS the opiate of the masses.
karl marx had one thing right when he said that religion is the opiate of the masses...
Religion of Peace. Why was there a goat picture on the big screen behind them on stage? Muslim porn awards?
Put panties on those goats I tell you. They are asking for it. Cover up those quivering lil flesh parts or all the men are going to have hard-ons that, gosh, they just can't control.
Heat and moisture seeking missles, activated. Bleep, bleep, bleep. Impact. Detonation. Oh yeah!
Fuckers. Literally.
Haha...thats funny!
I feel sorry for all the livestock in proximity to muslims. They misunderstand the term "animal husbandry"
Should wives be beaten? Is there any man who has not asked that question at some time or another. I think not!
The problem is not in the question; the problem arises in the answer one gives to that question. At least thes Muslims opened the question for discussion. Real wife beating goes on throughout the world, Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim. Raising the question of should they be beaten provides a space to create ethical and moral distinctions.
"Should wives be beaten?"
"Well, sometimes, yes! But that having been said, do husbands deserve to be castrated? Well, sometimes, yes!"
"Therefore, husbands and wives both should suffer corporal punishment?"
"Yes, they should. So how do we deal with this issue?"
"Perhaps both husbands and wives should take note of this imperative and treat their spouses with more respect."
Islam was presenting the question for serious contemplation. The shrieking women (among those who definitely deserve beatings) interrupted that discussion. That's what good NAZIs do, now isn't it.
So you were THERE or is this just your delusional transcript?
Were you there, Toothonk?
I, or any man, that "touches" my woman without due respect for her place in my and societies life, is a dead man walking.
That is something you can take to the bank.
This Muslim religion is a farce. I will NEVER accept it as a religion. I will allow them to practice. That is their right. But they DO NOT tell me what my religion is. And they never will. They better get it through their heads. We, as Americans, were FOUNDED on freedom of religion. That didn't mean CONVERTING to one. If there is anything left of us, it is our beliefs. If they want a Crusade, they are coming to the right place!
I disagree with the assumption that women should never ever be hit, women want equality up the point of being treated equally. Now should a man beat a woman for nonsense of course not. However should a man hit a woman if she had a gun to him or his loved ones and threatens to kill them...yes..Context it seems is what is lost in this generation of political correctness.
That's something you can take to the bank? Great idea, Dull Man. Taking something to the bank. I am getting all my stuff out of the bank. Good luck to you.
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This is the future with Muslims, as the move into our countries.
They will push their cultural values onto and over ours, good old BNA WASP liberal values, all being washed away, in the name of multiculturalism and tolerance.
Hope the feminists and the liberal progressives enjoy this! They own it. They made this happen.
They rammed this down our throats for the last 4-5 decades.
We need to stop this immigration right now, and send those that are not willing to adopt our values, melt in with us, back to their countries.
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From what I've seen, Muslims are very aggressive wherever they live. Also loads of them are faggots. I knew a lady back in the 80s who worked in Saudi. She was saying gay boys everywhere and grown men fuck themselves in the ass at lunchtime like it's nothing. I've heard from others as well, land of pedophile fags.
Figures, just read english translations of the Hadith which are the bits of wisdom of Muhammend, if you can call it wisdom. Mort of it is the non-sense of depraved mad man and sexual predator.
Too late for Europe. The majority of their men are either old and retired, chased away by feminists, or had their balls taken away from liberal brainwashing. And while I won't deny that women can fight, these muzzies are vicious especially with women. Heck, when they took African slaves back in the 16-1800s they would castrate a large percentage of them. Turns out that the survival rate for non-medical castration is very low. And what they do to "strong" women and gays.... Some things are better left unsaid.
Huh, taking a man's masculinity away, now where have we heard that practice before?
Sooner or later, the self-doubt of the humble will give way to a recapture of sustainable society, looking for nothing more.
It could be ugly, but it doesn't have to be, again.
I find Persian women the sexiest of Arabians. But I'm not very well traveled in that part of the world. What's the general consensus?
Persians, as those over here like to be called, are one and the same as Iranians.
Iranians are not Arabs.
I think with either title, they suck.
It's good that you have your eye on the ball.
Yes, Iranian women are hot. So are Lebanese and Israeli women.
It's funny because I'm often voicing disgust over Israel but in college I always attracted Jewish women. Over and over. Humanity is fascinating because I've always been good at busimess like I'm talking since I was in first grade scheming up some business deal. It's like those Jewish women subconsciously knew. I loved a few of them and happy enough didn't start a family with any.
On Jewish men, now they seem totally different than their faggot arab neighbors. Jewish men are very good at pulling WOMEN the way it should be. Respect.
Thats funny.
being jewish is more of a relgion than some sort of race to my understanding anyway???
http://www.jewfaq.org/judaism.htm
wrong and its strongly bound to blood
christians love converts
muslims love converts
and jews hate converts more than anything else
i encourage everyone to convert to judaism fight against "original" jews and abuse the jew-system
but persians are not arabs
"twitter posts called for the protesters to be stoned"
However given the low price of oil and crumbling world economies, the ever wise Imam advised not to be wasteful - "It would best if you could kill 2 BIRDS with one stone" - thereby proving the age old adage.
Going after Christians=weaksauce.
Going after bloodthirsty mohammedians=BALLS
Even still they are just another totally retarded SJW group that needs to be sidelined.
Get ready for a new question on applications for Life Insurance:
Smoker?
Family history of heart disease?
Have you recently attended a Muslim event and stormed the stage and chased off the Imams who were speaking?
Were you topless when you did this?
This is a good way to win a Darwin.
They flee a country where they are too cowardly to stand and fight, but have no qualms about kicking a woman in the face when she's on the ground. Yay religion of peace.....
Couldn't agree more. The incredibly stupid thing is that they want to recreate the hell hole that they left
I dunno.....
The pretty Egyptian girl in the middle is really cute....
Total pussies
Beating on women
nuke em
after we take their women and their oil
And then their women become greedy, entitled, selfish bitches just like ours and contribute to the depletion of the oil.
Religion seems to be well suited for people who can't think for themselves and this especially applies to Islam....
i think the figure for muslim marriages between first cousins is over 50% worldwide .. their average IQ is dropping like a rock. they are quickly becoming incapable of thinking at all, let alone for themselves.
Oh, I thought it said Fremen.
Long Live The Fighters!
I dont condone hitting women...but I sure understand it.
Chris Rock.
Good muslim men are supposed to commit suicide if they have seen nude women in public. I'm waiting
I think that's only if they have tits. If these chicks want to get noticed they need to get some cleavage out there.
Only thing that could've made this better woulda been if they beat the two fucking losers discussing beating wives in front of everyone.
All this nonsense simply because a sociopath named Abraham is the basis of three sister groups who each have their own stories (polite word for lies.) If you need the puppet strings, that's okay with me. I just resent that certain folks think it's ok to lie-to, steal-from, assault and/or kill those who don't believe in THEIR stories. So sad. In fact, the ten commandments are in the wrong order. The first three should be don't lie, don't steal and don't murder. If you can't do these first three, the other seven don't matter.
No, they are in the right order obviously. If you obeyed the very first commandment perfectly, you would not violate the other nine.
viva la France! We need more heroines like these to show what Islam really stands for ; moronic animals who only have courage when it comes to beating women. Here's Germany's message from their ambassador to the United States "People must embrace Globalization"; What a joke. Why should any soverign nation change its mores for some losers running the united nations? Keep your guns at hand, the battle is about to begin.
The muzzies burned my wife's grandmothers beauty salon to the ground in Dearborn MI in early 90s after she refused to sell to them . She had owned that shop since 1951 and seen the hey day of Detroits world class status disappear. See , the muzzies don't think like you and I. Gramma was 78 and still working every day when they burned her out.
You are looking at Americas future. Maybe time to quit joking and start doing .
i dont give a rats ass who funds femen. if your are swayed by their antics and not by your own research than you are a fucking idiot. as far as these women being brave...well i dont think they feel they will be beaten to a pulp as they are 'women'. they have never been attacked in their lives. now if they were men, the police could rightly shoot them dead.
I love this story. These crazy chicks finally did something worthwhile.
I keep telling my Gay and Feminist friends that the "Left" is going to sell them out so fucking fast they will not know what just hit them. One day it's going to be all "rainbow flags" and "Grrl Power", and the next day they will be running from the Muzzies, who will be stoning gays and comitting female genital horrors.
Look at Roterdam, truth is that European Feminism died there, on a mountain of raped white children, and no one has really realized it yet.
(For the record I actually like the Muzzies met and know a lot personally, I just don't fucking want them in my country (USA) or my ancestral homeland (Europe))
Agree. Not a fan of femen, but these two stood up to these fundamentalists, while most guys sit on websites bitching and whining about it.
Just introduce the women of the Muslim world to Lorena Bobbit. Problem will be solved once and for all.
Well, I think the Muzzies and the "Gays' should co exist.
In another country.
I think they call them comfort boys.
They've either "fixed" or chased away all the masculine rational men. But now that these medieval extremists are using force they're going to wonder why all of a sudden no one is there to defend them. Oh well, back to the dark ages we go.