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Public School Students Are The New Inmates In The American Police State
Submitted by John Whitehead via The Rutherford Institute,
“Every day in communities across the United States, children and adolescents spend the majority of their waking hours in schools that have increasingly come to resemble places of detention more than places of learning. From metal detectors to drug tests, from increased policing to all-seeing electronic surveillance, the public schools of the twenty-first century reflect a society that has become fixated on crime, security and violence.”—Investigative journalist Annette Fuentes
In the American police state, you’re either a prisoner (shackled, controlled, monitored, ordered about, limited in what you can do and say, your life not your own) or a prison bureaucrat (police officer, judge, jailer, spy, profiteer, etc.).
Indeed, at a time when we are all viewed as suspects, there are so many ways in which a person can be branded a criminal for violating any number of laws, regulations or policies. Even if you haven’t knowingly violated any laws, there is still a myriad of ways in which you can run afoul of the police state and end up on the wrong side of a jail cell.
Unfortunately, when you’re a child in the American police state, life is that much worse.
Microcosms of the police state, America’s public schools contain almost every aspect of the militarized, intolerant, senseless, overcriminalized, legalistic, surveillance-riddled, totalitarian landscape that plagues those of us on the “outside.”
From the moment a child enters one of the nation’s 98,000 public schools to the moment she graduates, she will be exposed to a steady diet of draconian zero tolerance policies that criminalize childish behavior, overreaching anti-bullying statutes that criminalize speech, school resource officers (police) tasked with disciplining and/or arresting so-called “disorderly” students, standardized testing that emphasizes rote answers over critical thinking, politically correct mindsets that teach young people to censor themselves and those around them, and extensive biometric and surveillance systems that, coupled with the rest, acclimate young people to a world in which they have no freedom of thought, speech or movement.
If your child is fortunate enough to survive his encounter with the public schools, you should count yourself fortunate.
Most students are not so lucky.
By the time the average young person in America finishes their public school education, nearly one out of every three of them will have been arrested.
More than 3 million students are suspended or expelled from schools every year, often for minor misbehavior, such as “disruptive behavior” or “insubordination.” Black students are three times more likely than white students to face suspension and expulsion.
For instance, a Virginia sixth grader, the son of two school teachers and a member of the school’s gifted program, was suspended for a year after school officials found a leaf (likely a maple leaf) in his backpack that they suspected was marijuana. Despite the fact that the leaf in question was not marijuana (a fact that officials knew almost immediately), the 11-year-old was still kicked out of school, charged with marijuana possession in juvenile court, enrolled in an alternative school away from his friends, subjected to twice-daily searches for drugs, and forced to be evaluated for substance abuse problems.
As the Washington Post warns: “It doesn’t matter if your son or daughter brings a real pot leaf to school, or if he brings something that looks like a pot leaf—okra, tomato, maple, buckeye, etc. If your kid calls it marijuana as a joke, or if another kid thinks it might be marijuana, that's grounds for expulsion.”
Many state laws require that schools notify law enforcement whenever a student is found with an “imitation controlled substance,” basically anything that look likes a drug but isn’t actually illegal. As a result, students have been suspended for bringing to school household spices such as oregano, breath mints, birth control pills and powdered sugar.
It’s not just look-alike drugs that can get a student in trouble under school zero tolerance policies. Look-alike weapons (toy guns—even Lego-sized ones, hand-drawn pictures of guns, pencils twirled in a “threatening” manner, imaginary bows and arrows, even fingers positioned like guns) can also land a student in detention.
Acts of kindness, concern or basic manners can also result in suspensions. One 13-year-old was given detention for exposing the school to “liability” by sharing his lunch with a hungry friend. A third grader was suspended for shaving her head in sympathy for a friend who had lost her hair to chemotherapy. And then there was the high school senior who was suspended for saying “bless you” after a fellow classmate sneezed.
Unfortunately, while these may appear to be isolated incidents, they are indicative of a nationwide phenomenon in which children are treated like suspects and criminals, especially within the public schools.
The schools have become a microcosm of the American police state, right down to the host of surveillance technologies, including video cameras, finger and palm scanners, iris scanners, as well as RFID and GPS tracking devices, employed to keep constant watch over their student bodies.
Making matters worse are the police.
Students accused of being disorderly or noncompliant have a difficult enough time navigating the bureaucracy of school boards, but when you bring the police into the picture, after-school detention and visits to the principal’s office are transformed into punishments such as misdemeanor tickets, juvenile court, handcuffs, tasers and even prison terms.
In the absence of school-appropriate guidelines, police are more and more “stepping in to deal with minor rulebreaking—sagging pants, disrespectful comments, brief physical skirmishes. What previously might have resulted in a detention or a visit to the principal’s office was replaced with excruciating pain and temporary blindness, often followed by a trip to the courthouse.”
Thanks to a combination of media hype, political pandering and financial incentives, the use of armed police officers to patrol school hallways has risen dramatically in the years since the Columbine school shooting (nearly 20,000 by 2003). Funded by the U.S. Department of Justice, these school resource officers (SROs) have become de facto wardens in the elementary, middle and high schools, doling out their own brand of justice to the so-called “criminals” in their midst with the help of tasers, pepperspray, batons and brute force.
The horror stories are legion.
One SRO is accused of punching a 13-year-old student in the face for cutting the cafeteria line. That same cop put another student in a chokehold a week later, allegedly knocking the student unconscious and causing a brain injury. In Pennsylvania, a student was tased after ignoring an order to put his cell phone away.
Defending the use of handcuffs and pepper spray to subdue students, one Alabama police department reasoned that if they can employ such tactics on young people away from school, they should also be permitted to do so on campus.
Now advocates for such harsh police tactics and weaponry will tell you that school safety should be our first priority lest we find ourselves with another Sandy Hook. What they will not tell you is that such shootings are rare. As one congressional report found, the schools are, generally speaking, safe places for children.
In their zeal to crack down on guns and lock down the schools, these cheerleaders for police state tactics in the schools might also fail to mention the lucrative, multi-million dollar deals being cut with military contractors such as Taser International to equip these school cops with tasers, tanks, rifles and $100,000 shooting detection systems.
Indeed, the transformation of hometown police departments into extensions of the military has been mirrored in the public schools, where school police have been gifted with high-powered M16 rifles, MRAP armored vehicles, grenade launchers, and other military gear. One Texas school district even boasts its own 12-member SWAT team.
According to one law review article on the school-to-prison pipeline, “Many school districts have formed their own police departments, some so large they rival the forces of major United States cities in size. For example, the safety division in New York City’s public schools is so large that if it were a local police department, it would be the fifth-largest police force in the country.”
The ramifications are far-reaching.
The term “school-to-prison pipeline” refers to a phenomenon in which children who are suspended or expelled from school have a greater likelihood of ending up in jail. One study found that “being suspended or expelled made a student nearly three times more likely to come into contact with the juvenile justice system within the next year.”
Not content to add police to their employee rosters, the schools have also come to resemble prisons, complete with surveillance cameras, metal detectors, drug-sniffing dogs, random locker searches and active shooter drills. The Detroit public schools boast a “‘$5.6 million 23,000-sq ft. state of the art Command Center’ and ‘$41.7 million district-wide security initiative’ including metal detectors and ID system where visitors’ names are checked against the sex offender registry.”
As if it weren’t bad enough that the nation’s schools have come to resemble prisons, the government is also contracting with private prisons to lock up our young people for behavior that once would have merited a stern lecture. Nearly 40 percent of those young people who are arrested will serve time in a private prison, where the emphasis is on making profits for large megacorporations above all else.
Private prisons, the largest among them being GEO and the Corrections Corporation of America, profit by taking over a state’s prison population for a fee. Many states, under contract with these private prisons, agree to keep the prisons full, which in turn results in more Americans being arrested, found guilty and jailed for nonviolent “crimes” such as holding Bible studies in their back yard. As the Washington Post points out, “With the growing influence of the prison lobby, the nation is, in effect, commoditizing human bodies for an industry in militant pursuit of profit… The influence of private prisons creates a system that trades money for human freedom, often at the expense of the nation’s most vulnerable populations: children, immigrants and the poor.”
This profit-driven system of incarceration has also given rise to a growth in juvenile prisons and financial incentives for jailing young people. Indeed, young people have become easy targets for the private prison industry, which profits from criminalizing childish behavior and jailing young people. For instance, two Pennsylvania judges made headlines when it was revealed that they had been conspiring with two businessmen in a $2.6 million “kids for cash” scandal that resulted in more than 2500 children being found guilty and jailed in for-profit private prisons.
It has been said that America’s schools are the training ground for future generations. Instead of raising up a generation of freedom fighters, however, we seem to be busy churning out newly minted citizens of the American police state who are being taught the hard way what it means to comply, fear and march in lockstep with the government’s dictates.
As I point out in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, with every school police raid and overzealous punishment that is carried out in the name of school safety, the lesson being imparted is that Americans—especially young people—have no rights at all against the state or the police.
I’ll conclude with one hopeful anecdote about a Philadelphia school dubbed the “Jones Jail” because of its bad reputation for violence among the student body. Situated in a desperately poor and dangerous part of the city, the John Paul Jones Middle School’s student body had grown up among drug users, drug peddlers, prostitutes and gun violence. “By middle school,” reports The Atlantic, most of these students “have witnessed more violence than most Americans who didn't serve in a war ever will.”
According to investigative reporters Jeff Deeney, “School police officers patrolled the building at John Paul Jones, and children were routinely submitted to scans with metal detecting wands. All the windows were covered in metal grating and one room that held computers even had thick iron prison bars on its exterior… Every day… [police] would set up a perimeter of police officers on the blocks around the school, and those police were there to protect neighbors from the children, not to protect the children from the neighborhood.”
In other words, John Paul Jones, one of the city’s most dangerous schools, was a perfect example of the school-to-prison, police state apparatus at work among the nation’s youngest and most impressionable citizens.
When management of John Paul Jones was taken over by a charter school that opted to de-escalate the police state presence, stripping away the metal detectors and barred windows, local police protested. In fact, they showed up wearing Kevlar vests. Nevertheless, school officials remained determined to do away with institutional control and surveillance, as well as aggressive security guards, and focus on noncoercive, nonviolent conflict resolution with an emphasis on student empowerment, relationship building and anger management.
The result: a 90% drop in serious incidents—drug sales, weapons, assaults, rapes—in one year alone. As one fifth-grader remarked on the changes, “There are no more fights. There are no more police. That's better for the community.”
The lesson for the rest of us is this: you not only get what you pay for, but you reap what you sow.
If you want a nation of criminals, treat the citizenry like criminals.
If you want young people who grow up seeing themselves as prisoners, run the schools like prisons.
But if you want to raise up a generation of freedom fighters, who will actually operate with justice, fairness, accountability and equality towards each other and their government, then run the schools like freedom forums. Remove the metal detectors and surveillance cameras, re-assign the cops elsewhere, and start treating our nation’s young people like citizens of a republic and not inmates in a police state.
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Thanks to judges like U.S. Supreme Court Associate Justice Stephen Breyer, the USA is now a gulag. CBS Evening News’ Monday airing ended with a powder puff interview of Associate Justice Stephen Breyer. Breyer will also be a guest on the Stephen Colbert show tonight. Breyer is the biggest phony ever to sit on the Supreme Court, an apologist for the police state that the United States has become. When there is a case where his vote won’t make a difference, he votes with the less conservative group of justices. But when there is a case involving 6th Amendment illegal search and or seizure or involving the confrontation clause (two issues of which are defended by Justice Scalia), like clockwork, Breyer will be the 5th vote to side with the right wing majority, taking Scalia’s place. Thanks to Breyer, even though the Maryland Supreme Court said an arrest is not justification to take DNA samples, the Supreme Court overturned that decision with Breyer’s swing vote. For this vote, Roberts and his ilk stopped being Federalists to expand the powers of the U.S. police state. Scalia the conservative defends the Bill of Rights and Breyer sells out citizens’ rights. So, Breyer is really just a liar who, when the chips are down, will be a good Nazi and protect the Fartherland, oops, Homeland.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/supremes-dna-decision-breyer-and-scalia
End the Fed and the police state dies with it.
There will have to be sustained brutal violence to end the fed. Very brutal violence.
Just wait till they start turning in notes to their handlers...I mean "teachers" about your home energy use, kind of car, what programs you watch, what you eat, etc...
White schools or Black schools? Some kids don't need metal detectors. Some clearly do.
[cue "but columbine...", which is fine if you want to bring it up. That stuff is RARE]
Exactly. We need to start specifying what the racial composition is. Rush and Sean and every other media commentator under the sun can't stay away from referring to "Americans." It confuses the troops and hides the realities of black dysfunction from public view.
Concerned about "gun crime"? Look no further than the black underclass for who's responsible. Did you find a "good" school to put your kid in? Great. Bet it's 95% white.
The black hatred of whites and this country is palpable. It shows up in the public schools.
Fact.
Schools are less of the cause of this problem then their home lives where most of them have no clue who their father is and the single [inevitably unemployed] parent at home lives EBT to EBT. MSM carefully avoids mentions any involvement of parents or home life when braodcasting another brutal Thuggery.
More diverse neighborhoods have lower social cohesion.
http://www.citylab.com/housing/2013/11/paradox-diverse-communities/7614/
Diversity increases psychotic experiences.
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/201/4/282.abstract?etoc
Diversity increases social adversity.
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/201/4/282.abstract?etoc
A 10% increase in diversity doubles the chance of psychotic episodes.
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/201/4/282.abstract?etoc
It is time to give our kids their guns back. Never should've been banned to begin with.
You are a Hater Ace, these are good times for you and about to get better.
The people white Americans should trust are the balck Americans, you've been living her together since the beginning and you have no other home, if 'Someone' has a policy of turning you against each other, to increase chaos inside your society, so that you are easier to manipulate, you should resist it, if we go 'down' we all go down together!
I hate the flight from truth, Sparkey.
You think "The people white Americans should trust are the balck Americans." Holy moley, what planet are you from?
Check out <a href="http://hispanicnewsnetwork.blogspot.com/2015/08/white-woman-brutally-bea..." >this story</a> of a white woman being viciously sucker punched and kicked in the head by a young black male and kicked in her face by his young black female companion. He yells, "Wrong 'hood, bitch" repeatedly as he does this. I've got a link to the actual video but for some reason there are just a bunch of technical problems in allowing it to be viewed.
I'm guessing you never read much about the Zebra Killings that the Nation of Islam, um, was connected to. Or the killings of Channon Christian and Chris Newsome. Or <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Island_Rail_Road_massacre" >Colin Ferguson</a>, one of Jamaica's gifts to our precious diversity. Or Farrakhan's call for a 10-000-man army to kill whites. Or John Muhammad. Check out Colin Flaherty's books or the <a href="http://dailykenn.blogspot.com/" >Daily Kenn</a> web site.
You're quick with the "hater" mudslinging, Sparkey, but I just have to ask if you know what the heck you're talking about?
Yeah but only Hilary cankles private prisons have a sense of humor.
the police exists to protect the R&R rothschilds and rockafellars (the top) from the rest of humanity (the bottom).........and the bottom has to pay for it from fed/state and local taxes......
life's a bitch and then u marry one
If they want to reduce violence in public schools, feed the kids lunch meals like those Obama's kids get in their private schoool. You don't see tranny Michele telling Sidwell Friends School's dietician to feed her kids mini portions of mystery meat, fried chicken pieces or old milk.
THIS was the primary reason that I put my kids over my own career. I stayed with a company that was bad for my career, but I was allowed to telecommute. I used my flexible hours to homeschool my kids for nine years. I wanted to educate my kids as I saw fit, integrating our faith into the education (without offending anyone or spending their tax dollars to do it). But I ALSO wanted to spare them from the labeling, the negative socialization, the stupidity of zero-tolerance discipline, the forced drugging, the teaching by barely-adults who would often know less about a topic than THEY did... and these reasons don't even COUNT the other kids raised by idiot parents!
School felt too much like prison to me when I went through in the 70's and 80's in Iowa, but when I look back on it, I am amazed at how much freedom we REALLY had. The problem I had was that I really WAS smarter than most of my teachers, and I learned very little with what I felt was the agonizingly slow pace.
John Taylor Gatto got it right when he said our country is suffering because we warehouse too much of our talent, both young and old, and keep them out of participating in real life.
^^^THIS!
The chickens coming home to roost in the good ole USA with the military industrial complex oozing into every corner of our society. The big bankers profit all all fronts - domestic and foreign - and the general public too stupid and/or distracted to figure it out.
tl;dr Treat people like criminals, they act like criminals.
People who act like criminals should be treated like criminals. See, you flip it around a little and you can salvage it.
So...you didn't read the article?
If you want an education the last place you'd get it is in a school.
If you have any money, the last place you want to keep it is in a bank.
If you're in trouble and need help, the last person you want to call is a cop.
If you expect justice the last place you will find it is in a court.
If you're sick, the last place you want to be is in a hospital.
If you're in need of leadership, the last place you'd find it is from self-appointed "leaders".
If you want to be informed, the last place to look is the media.
If you want to control a disease the last place to expect help is the CDC.
etc. etc.
True. All of them have been corrupted by greed and mad power hunger.
If you get really sick, wouldn't you go to a hospital? Honestly?
The system enforces a god-damned monopoly on the medical treatment of many injuries, so even though I would FAR RATHER go see an independent surgeon (who might use Rick SImpson Oil for post-treatment, + etc.), I unfortunately don't have that freedom, since any independent surgeon would get arrested by the fascist police 'for our safety'.
So, since no one else is allowed to treat broken bones or other traumatic injuries, I would be FORCED to go to the crappiest provider: the corporate MD, the god-damned shill who follows all TPTB's anti-human guidelines to the letter (lest they lose their precious jobs and perks).
But other than trauma and dire emergency, I for sure wouldn't go to any corporate doctor. Things like cancer, sports injuries, back or wrist problems, diabetes, etc.: all these things are far better dealt with outside of mainstream junk-science.
Real solutions exist. Real cures - whereas the corporate doctor will never do anything but seek to treat the symptoms, at great profit to himself and his gang.
State education has become child abuse. Not only do we lock our kids indoors in these statist programming facilities for 18 years (a lot of pedophiles do far less time) but our psychopathic culture also seems to have kids preying on other kids at an alarming rate. Then we have an incredible amount of child abductions and organized pedophelia. In the 50s it was very rare for a kid to go missing and now it is constant. What the hell is going on?
One thing we know has changed since the 50's is the content on television, they don't call it programming for nothing. Kids are going to find their way into racey movies one way or another. Numerous psychologists have recommended the TV programming separate sex scenes from violence by at least a small amount of time.
They have warned over and over that showing kids or even young adults arousing scenes that are followed quickly by violence can easily seriously warp an individuals mind. Then there is the fact that a large portion of the hero characters in movies have psychopathic traits. Of course that's just the beginning of what's wrong with TV and everything else. These kids hardly have a chance.
I'll never forget some material our son came home with from school. This was probably 15 years ago and he was maybe in ~ 3rd grade.
He had some papers rolled up and he threw them on the counter. The 2 that really pissed me off were designed to look like comic books. One featured Spiderman, and I read through it and learned that Spiderman was gay. The other one concerned the dangers of common things like cleaners and other stuff found under a kitchen sink or garage. It showed how kids could deliberately abuse this stuff by sniffing/inhaling.
At that age our kids time was accounted for 100%. None of this would ever occur to them except for these comic books. I talked to him about and he said it was stupid.
Don't you love how TV has truly become programming. Remember when a comedy was filmed in front of a live audience....if it was funny. The audience laughed...that's what it was about.
Now....all laughter is just layed in on a sound track as Hollywood effectively programs you to what they say is funny. Even though this crap would NEVER get a laugh out of a live audience. Every single sit-com today has fake laughter tracks...including the gut buster fake laughter.
The good ones were always filmed in front of a live audience.
Come here Son and bend over, Uncle Sammy wants to pound you in the ass!
Yes, there needs to be massive changes to the way we manage our public school systems, but these suggestions are completely detached from reality. Remove security cameras? Ok, I can probably get on bored with that. Remove metal detectors? They're probably not that effective anyway. Redistribute police forces?
Has this person been fucking paying attention the last 20 years? Trust me, I'm not one to argue that mass shooting are increasing, but they're still a threat. Children are by law not allowed to own firearms, and therefor are not legally allowed to have the capacity to defend themselves from these latest monsters. What exactly is the alternative if you're stripping all protection from people that aren't allowed to protect themselves? Fucking wishful thinking? Harsh language??
This is one of the most ridiculous, short-sighted, shit-for-brained articles I've seen in a long while. Of course changes need to be made, but to argue we need to make already soft targets even more soft? Play in traffic.
As long as Gangs and Thuggery are glorified, our schools will remain prisons, And our prisons will remain schools.
AMPALANCE
Are you properly directing your remark to the
police gangs and DHS/military thuggery abroad and at home ?
That's what is constantly being "glorified" if you stop and think about it.
Are you thinking of the so-called wars on "drugs" and "terror"?
Are you thinking of trade and financial policies which promote joblessness
and underemployment?
Those are much more the cause of the problems than any lack of militarized policing.
I am now and always have been against the militarization of the police, and the reality is, this militarization is encouraged by the same euro trash socialist that bought Humanity Europe's most violent and oppressive secret police, massive surveillance, and general distrust of the very populace who pay the bills. The police are trained in the very same institutions that teach our politicians these Euro trash Neo Bolshevik ways, Politicians without college degrees are becoming rare. But you cannot ask the police (or citizens or parent) to accept a group of people (white black or Mexican) who knowingly enter into a group who's anti societal tendencies will most likely end in either death or prison sentence after prison sentence. A group who seek to target the innocent as well as the cops FOR DEATH, or victimization through either violence, robbery or drugs. Civilization/prosperity and Gangsters are mutually exclusive IMHO
The wars on drugs/terror/poverty are just justifications for larger more powerful government, another prosperity killer.
Bankers are in large part behind the Neo Bolshevik push to destroy this country and are responsible for all of the above and more.
My remarks are directed at gang members who add absolutely nothing to society, and their lawlessness feeds directly into TPTB's hands, weakening societies ability to demand civil treatment.
So my question to you is, by your questions, are you justifying the actions of violent gangs like the Bloods, the Crips, MS13 and the rest?
Circular logic to keep asking whose
reprehensible actions are more "justified".
The point is to remove major causes for the reprehensible activities and corruption of all 'sides'.
The self-defeating war on drugs (Prohibition II), financial parasitism, etc. are the causes.
Attempts to reframe it as essentially a "religious" question of which side is more "justified" in their tortures, murders, and thefts only leads to pointless and self-righteous claims.
Let the teachers and adult staff carry.
In Israel they have Uzis , Nobody messes with the kids.
Hell, let the kids have their guns back. Used to be shooting was a sport at schools and kids would keep their shotgun in the car for hunting after school. That's normal life in America.
Only problem I got with public schools atm is the Vaccination mandates.
They need to pause mandatory vaccination and do some real science and testing on these things, especially the MMR and HPV which are like dangerous viral cocktails that could potentially turn your child's brain into molten jello and put them into a vegetative state for the rest of their life, way too many horror stories surrounding these vaccines for them to be mandatory nowadays.... or atleast offer up the traditional vaccines in individual doses (MMR chopped up).
The problem is you need some of the vaccines to prevent your kid from getting a deadly infection from one of the new illegal kids that shows up.
A vaccine they never should have needed and ADD they never should have developed.
I said absolutely no to the MMR vaccine. I just gave my son the measles shot because he couldn't enter school without it. I tried to refuse the Chicken Pox vaccine but you can't even get your kid into preschool without it.
The Hepatitis shot at birth is insane. The only purpose of that shot is to immediately scramble a babies brain and give them a 10% chance of dying the first night.
All vaccines contain heavy metals and all vaccines contain chemicals like formaldehyde.
If a vaccine is a cure for a disease, why do you have to get a second or third shot within five years? Supposedly to build up greater immunity?
Pumping your kid with 28 shots by the age of three isn't going to do any good. If you do it, your child's brain is fucked up forever and it can't be undone.
Public Schools were once education devices in a world where most people were too poor to afford private education. Scotland in fact led the way with laws making local set aside buildings and money for a school and teacher, each local child could go. That was centuries ago. In America, we now use schools as agents of the government designed to create pliant citizens and warriors for the state. We want no thinking workers, we want non thinking warriors, and god help you if you question the Public School you are stuck in.
The State and Empire now run on the ability to dupe and brainwash each child. Media and Public education, together THEY raise your child, they have MORE influence than any family does.
If you can, opt out of Public Schools. It may be hard, but get out if you can. Fuck those places.
You can't fix kids that come from parents that aren't worth a damn.
I say bring back uniforms and smacking hands with rulers.
I saw a seven year old go into my son's school with an Insane Clown Posse shirt. If my son wore an American Flag shirt he would probably be forced to take it off, but a child wearing an ICP shirt is ok?
I don't want my son to even ask what Insane Clown Posse is. If you are an adult and want to listen to them, fine. But if you allow your kid to wear the shirt, you are probably proud to listen to it with the kid around.
I will protect the right for an adult to watch San Francisco S&M, not that I like the fact that they do. But I definitely not support letting a seven year old watch it.
Hey son, I know you are only seven but you know how you asked where babies come from. Well here are some videos. Some women like to be whipped before you stick it in.
Our declining schools are just a symptom of general societal decay brought to you by our great Zionist overlords.
All part of the protocols:
11 Control the education system to spread deception and destroy intellect
13 Use our media to create entertaining distractions
14 Corrupt minds with filth and perversion
Couldn't be clearer.
Our public schools were designed to prepare kids for the mindless factory jobs that we outsourced to China decades ago.
There are no good police. I learned this later in life. May be its better that these kids learn it earlier.
It's disgusting. On many levels. You can see how they are trying to train the newest generation against guns by throwing them out of school for a toy. The US, and entire world, would be so much better if we can get rid of all these worthless motherfuckers trying to mold us into some fucking bullshit that is NEVER going to happen but, try as they will, and make a wreck out of the entire planet with their greedy bullshit ways.
Well most of a certain people will end up in prison at some point in their lives, may as well start them off there.
At John Paul Jones after they took away the metal detectors, cops, etc there was probably a 90% drop in incidents because 90% of the kids didn't show up to school. Charter schools can also expel kids for poor performance and send them to public schools elsewhere. I wonder what the demographic picture of the school looked like once it went private charter. I also wonder how many of the kids were told to come for the first day so the school could get a head count for Federal dollars and then never came back. I remember watching a special on the Detroit charter schools and it was hilarious that after the first week 80% of the kids never came to school again for the rest of the year. But hell, the ones that stayed wanted to learn, so they did better. My idiot aunt saw some propaganda film about Detroit schools and said that they were better than the school in our community. I said right to her face that her comment was the dumbest thing I had ever heard in my life.
The charter school my wife worked at tried nonviolent conflict resolution. All that happened was that the kids beat up and killed other kids outside the school. If they didn't have essentially a bouncer pat down the kids, my wife would be dead. A student taped a knife to his dick in an attempt to get a weapon by security. When asked why he brought the knife he said it was too kill my wife for making him redo his homework since his answer for naming three US presidents was, "Suck my dick." You think getting rid of metal detectors and security is the answer for dealing with kids like that?
If letting the ghetto police themselves worked, Detroit would be a shining beacon of prosperity.
Mentioning Sandy Hook is an automatic disqualification of sound argument. The hoax was perpetrated to further the agenda of destroying mostly white school districts. Making it look like suburban white schools are more dangerous than inner city schools.
My old home town was forced to add two Section 8 low income housing developments. In the next school year fights, drug related arrests, rape allegations, and parking lot break ins skyrocketed. Because teachers had to deal with the new rabid animal problem there was less time to focus on actual teaching. Test scores suffered and general student attitudes turned sour.
People take on the personality of the mob. If thug culture starts to take hold, the group will all act that way. If students start to see kids getting away with ill behavior, they will wonder if they can get away with it as well.
Put the animals in their cages and throw away the keys. Sometimes you have to accept the crop is lost and burn it.
That is a crazy story. That kid is just another violent low functioning psychopath, just think if he was more intelligent and less overtly violent he could run our banking system or be president. We can keep locking the psychos up once they are created but we better find out how our culture is creating so many of them or we are going to end up out numbered at this rate.
Some people say I'm cruel and uncaring. I say no, I just care too much for those who should live in a better world.
My wife fell for the propaganda that these kids could be helped. She went to college specifically to get a degree in special ed and help at risk students. She thought if she could get through to just one student, it would all be worth it. Her mother encouraged her.
I knew I couldn't stop her, so I figured she needed to learn it on her own. The knife incident was what ended her career as a teacher of at risk students, but it was the culmination of a lot of other things. After learning she could have been stabbed by a kid she was trying to help, she couldn't do it anymore. At that point I told her I wouldn't let her go to that school again even if she wanted.
There was one 16 year old girl who was actually very smart. She was getting A's in the class and scored 112 on an IQ test. The problem was by age 16 she had already had three abortions. Her mother wouldn't allow her to have a child. Of course she didn't want to, or couldn't, stop the behavior that led to the pregnancies. At a parent teacher conference my wife told the mother to keep her child away from boys. The mother replied, "I can't do that, her only friends are boys." Wow, I wonder why. The mom of course had three children from different fathers.
The key is worth. Kids have to see that they are worth something and have value. The altruistic goals of people like my wife are valid in that respect. They are trying to instill that worth, but how do you try and teach a kid they have worth when they were brought into the world without it.
When a child is created for the explicit purpose of obtaining a child support payment, or a larger welfare check, they have no value beyond that. They weren't born to give joy to a mother and father and will not be given real love. For the first years of the child's life they will just be bought off with trinkets, or placed in front of a TV. As mom pushes a cart through Walmart with three kids inside, two hanging on to the sides and one behind, she really doesn't care when one wanders off and destroys an aisle of stuff. The kid might get smacked and hear a, "What you do." But that will be the end of it. No discussion why what the kid did was wrong.
Our culture is creating these violent parts of the underclass because of welfare. Handouts destroy the value of life because you don't have to expend energy to obtain them. As we have expanded the war on poverty, we have only increased the amount of the poor.
In order to appreciate something, you must earn it. That goes for the rich and the poor. Today's rich just want more, because they have no knowledge or what it takes to get it. The majority didn't earn their money, so they can't appreciate it. When they spend, they immediately expect more cash to just show up. Sounds like the poor as well.
It is a very hard pill to swallow, that millions of kids were never told they had any value and therefore will never grow to have any worth. By the time they enter school it is already too late. Unless we drastically change the environment the kids grow up in, they can't be helped. We can't change the environment without ridding us of the social welfare system. We can't rid ourselves of the social welfare system without major issues. Most people don't want to deal with that.
All too true but the political correctness is worse.
Exploiting children and thier parents is one tool tptb want bad. They are sneaking up on full spectrum dominace.
Gotta love dat Gubmint education boys, your hard earned tax dollars spent on the incarceration and indoctrination of your kids.
I retired and moved to the Baltics. Nobody can remember when a cop shot anyone in this city. Few can remember if anyone was shot by someone else. Car thefts occur once every six months though break-ins of cars happen once every 2 weeks. And this child expulsion never happens. RT really eats these stories up. Glad I left and only fearful when I come home to see my kids.
Wait til Baltics get "enriched" with African/Arab diversity people
Public school teacher here. LOVE the comments, you guys are why I love ZH.
Quick question: can you please recommend any (concise) books on US History that are factually accurate and true to the values and beliefs of our Founding Fathers?
I have available grant money for a class set of books and an amazing amount of discretion to choose whatever I want for my 11th and 12th grade students.
Thanks!
Tom Woods has partnered with Ron Paul and worked for a few years on a good curriculum .
Mises.org has history books especially by Rothbard.
I've been too far removed from what textbooks are being used now to know.
One of my favorite teachers in school had us read Ludwig Von Mises, The Theory of Money and Credit. Although not exactly about the founding fathers it really delves into what America was supposed to stand for. The founding fathers fought each other over what would be the future of money in the republic. What is really the true war of the world. It is a little over the head of most 17 year olds though.
The most valuable lesson a person old enough to understand it, would be that they know nothing and most of what they learned was a lie. From that point they can pursue the truth or choose not to.
It is always important to understand the story beneath the surface. Too much of the curriculum today focuses on the superficial. I don't really care if a kid knows who said something. I care if they know why they said it.
I also like The Advisors: Oppenheimer, Teller, and the Superbomb. It is a very good book aboutnthe development of nuclear weapons and how the military industrial complex took over. Truly necessary to understanding the 20th century.
The Federalist Papers might be something to have them learn about. Free download below but there are print versions too.
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/histdox/fedpapers.html
Publius Huldah (nom de guerre) is very well versed and spoken on this topic. And would be a good role model for any young adult, especially young females, preparing for the public speaking they'll need to do if they go to college. Here's a short sample. There are much more detailed ones available from her too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32sOB8XpMM4
They may find this Article V Convention debate interesting too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw1BWXknkK8 - Pro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F6_bkHJtgI - Con
And in light of this very common theme (link) I have both read and heard from many teachers over the years you may want to consider a CYA sign off by the school board or some high level admin for your final purchase list.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-14/public-school-students-are-new-...
The problem is the *some* Americans are so feral that only a fascist police state can restrain them. But our leaders, liberal and conservative alike, cling the dogma that all people must be treated equally. The only way to have equality without anarchy is to subject *everyone* to fascist tyranny.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." -- John Adams
"Men are qualified for liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites,—in proportion as their love of justice is above their rapacity — in proportion as their soundness and sobriety and understanding is above their vanity and presumption — in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere; and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke
The problem is that the sheeple OVERREACTED to their fears and demanded that the STATE "throw the book at them" and in the process eliminated DISCRETION on the part of authorities, and replaced it mathematical formulas geared those *some* Americans you refer to along with perverse incentives and Orwellian performance metrics.
Times changed, and the ANIMALS got exactly what they asked for...
By the time I graduated high school I had been arrested (for non traffic offenses) by three different police departments and four federal law enforcement agencies. NOT ONE of those arrests ever landed me before a judge, unlike a couple speeding tickets.
I'm guessing the cops hauled in your white ass to fill their race quotas. If they only arrested people for actual crimes, they'd be accused of racism.
Cops should stand united and threaten to let the vibrants run wild if politicians file bogus charges against their colleagues. But like us, they've been fed the equality bullshit their whole lives, and can't easily snap out of it.
Nothing to do with race, and no repercussions for my security clearance or academic path or professional career.
Local
Chevy Chase Police - domestic dispute potentially involving a firearm
Montomery County Police - attempted theft in front of an entire narcotics stakeout team (we was drunk... and didn't notice their vans...)
DC Police - brawling
Federal
Capitol Hill Police - drunk and disorderly
Park Police - sex at a national monument
Secret Service - trespassing
CIA SPS - trespassing
Forest Ranger (National Park Service) - starting an open fire in a national park (20 yards on the wrong side of the boundary)
Well said Dave, can't agree with you more
That was Hitler's approach to things too.
Welcome to Nazi ameriKa. Nothing 'light' about it. Children are being trained to fear authority while their parents are bending over for cavity checks at airports, bus stations and highways. And don't forget the highway robbery called asset forfeiture, all the spying on everything you do and say.
They have done just about every perverted thing they could think of to us and we still wave the flag and vote the megalomaniacs into office.
Take a minute and think about how free you really are and how much you really own.
I don't like tattoos.
John the author of this piece is one giant pussy.
Anybody else noticed that she (pussy is female) wrote this article and used the female form when writing about a hypothetical child?
Let me tell you something.... As someone who went to an "inner city" high school, there's a reason for the bars and metal detectors. It's the animalistic student body. I've witnessed a gang on girls beat the shit out of a teacher while other teachers looked on helpless. And much worse things on a daily basis. The public school system is a dumping grounds for peoples failed parenting skills. It's part daycare, part soup kitchen, part brainwashing facility, part union entitlement plan, part insane asylum, part dog pound.... It ultimately becomes a triage situation where the ones smart enough and strong enough get the resources while the damaged misfits get left to fend for themselves.
Just remember:
'They hate us for our freedoms'...
All I can say is - as an absolutely independent foreign observer: TURN THEM IN! All of them. And let them work for the state that graciously gave them an education. America will be debt free within a decade. That's my grand plan. Of course, it also might turn out to be the greatest error in American history...but...as an independent observer...wait, what was I saying? Nevermind!
Bad government schools are a symptom of bad government. They cannot be fixed, only eliminated. Anything that appears to 'fix' the problem is only temporary, hugely expensive, and oppressive. If it appears to work, it's because a homogonous and brainwashed population comply with it. These 'functioning' schools are the ones in high-end neighborhoods populated by educated well-off parents. What is less apparent is these schools are indoctrinating kids with failed ideologies that are only supported through huge government subsidies, so they are learning to embrace the cult of government. The system that appears to work is actually doomed to fail for this reason--it perpetuates more government, which will eventually become oppressive and tyrannical as it over-extends it's obligations, confiscation, and struggles to conceal it's failures. After all, the fundemental point of the ideology is that the integrity of the governing entity (government) is what defines a given civilization's success.
There is a natural law here--government is inherently evil. This will not change. Maybe the adverse affects can be stifled with subsidy, management methods, etc, but eventually nature will win, the system will decline into dysfunction, and it will fail.
The only way to fix it is to eliminate all government involvement. A free-market in education. There will have to be a 'transition' period to accommodate those citizens affected by other failed government exercises, like those dependent on social services. This can be addressed with vouchers providing an average tuition and travel expense and letting the parents (or even the students) compete and select a school of their choice.
Will there be huge differences in 'equality'? Hell yes, but so what? Today's pseudo-principle of 'equality' has nothing to do with the legitimate concept and objective of 'equality of treatment under the law', and everything to do with equalizing and homogonizing all people (which is what happens when laws affect every aspect of human behavior, which would never be the case if laws were based on governing by principle instead of manipulating sentiment, but I digress...).
It wouldn't be long before better schools have huge profit margins and backlogs of applicants. I'm sure they'd offer tuition assistance and scholarships so those that are smart and creative could contribute to the schools' reputation. I'll bet in less than a decade a free system would genuinely offer an 'equal opportunity' that isn't tied to geographic location, race, or anything else but competence.
The largest problem may be travel to/from school, but it's ludicrous to argue that .gov needs to maintain a monopoly on the school system just to make sure a school exists in a particular geographic location. Goddammit, let the kids go wherever the hell they want, even if it means providing a voucher for taxis, mileage, etc. I'm sure this issue would work itself out, especially if schools were good.
The worst schools in a free market system would likely exceed the above-average schools that exist in any current publicly-run system. Which is why the state will impose so much drag and oppression on the private system to never let it be too good or less expensive, nor will the state ever let their services be charged only to those that use it. The fact that parents with kids get subsidies from those without (nobody without kids ever gets a break on property taxes) gives the politicians and almost guaranteed constituency.
Don't blame the state blame your society.
Nope. It's the state.
The solution to violence and disruptive behavior in scholls is simple: If a kid demonstrates that he or she is not there to learn, the kid should be sent home for at least the rest of the school year, and probably for one calendar year. If schools were treated as learning institutions, you'd also send home unmotivated kids and only allow them to return if they were willing to demonstrate motivation to learn.
Schools should implement the Death Penalty for anyone who breaks the rules.
That would help straighten this mess out rather quickly :) :) :)
Schools should have Tossed Salad Man to set bad kids straight!
On a serious note, you can't separate this issue from race. Most of the crime and bad behaviour in schools (and out of them) is coming from black kids. Learning and acting respectfully towards others is "acting white" for them.
I believe segregation is the answer.
Public School is an oxymoron
This needs to be shown to all home schoolers
''History they don't teach you in school''
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX8i-QriYIU
"Black students are three times more likely than white students to face suspension and expulsion."
thats because black students are 10 times more likely to go berserk
Indoctrination by desensitizing prison lifestyle at a early age.
Remove the metal detectors from schools??? REALLY GOOD idea!! Because NO kid would EVER crack up, take a gun into school and shoot a bunch of people! <sarc>
Sorry Tylers, you're out to lunch on this one. What planet do you live on again?
What a twit.
I taught in a large urban high school in the 1990s. One day it was reported to the office that a student was carrying a pistol.
Mr. Stewart, the vice-principal, approached the student. He held out his hand. "Son," he said, "give me the gun." The student gave him the weapon.
Months later he said in conversation that he was shaking in his boots.
One Mr. Stewart is worth more than any number of metal detectors, or for that matter, armed police officers.
And don't be sarcastic, redd_green. If there's any body who's vulnerable to it, it's you.
When as a kid I took a gun to school many times for rabbit hunting after school. Also I have always carried a knife. Probably shocking to paranoids like you. Of course in those times we weren't being fed wild psychotropic drugs by parasite government teachers and we weren't caged like animals threatened with expulsion for kissing a girl or pointing a "gun finger" at someone.
What planet do I live on,,, well its a planet taken over by psychopaths and public parasite megalomaniacs.
No kid who ever did, did so without being prescribed drugs that made it so, by a doctor, and no school with metal detectors, security, police, ever stopped such an incident.
With the number of people on psychotropic drugs these days, you want metal detctors everywhere.
I returned to my old hometown last month for an extended visit. It is a large, metropolitan city. I drove past several schools and noticed how they all looked exactly like prisons, minus the guard towers. High fences with barbwire, security systems, even a parked police car in the parking lot. Contrast that to the schools in my present small town {which is overwhelmingly white, and I make no apologies for that}. None of the features mentioned above. None. That tells me something. It's where you are located. Let's face it, our large cities are crime infested shitholes. All the industry that once supported them is gone. What took over was crime, welfare, drugs and poverty. And let's not forget the immigrunts, plenty of them. Over 15,000 Mong dumped on one neighborhood alone, and thats not counting all of the mezcuns and blacks that have moved in over the last fifteen years. So please, by all means, keep the prison-schools in place. I could only imagine what they would look like if you removed all of that security. A war zone. No teacher would dare enter.
Leave the Hmongs alone. They are hard workers and never signed on to any organized government in their native land, Southeast Asia. Very nice people.
Removing all the hideous police state and surveillance apparatus as this article suggests doesn't deal with one of the major reasons (if never admitted to) for it being there in the first place: "to protect the ruling elites from the very people they purport to represent".
The worst indoctrination is that stupid DARE program. They would present all of these completely fake statistics about marijuana, and then they would try to warn kids about heroin. If kids learn that everything stated about marijuana is a lie, they will naturally assume all of the things said about heroin were lies as well. The government is CAUSING drug abuse by making kids underestimate the dangers of certain things.
I was shocked when I took some pharmacology classes and learned that alcohol is far more dangerous than stated, and marijuana is far less dangerous than they stated. Alcohol is one of the few drugs where the withdrawal can be fatal. Nobody in history has ever died from marijuana overdose or withdrawal.
When Liberals are in charge, should you expect any different result?
They're not in charge - Goldman Sachs is. JP Morgan is. That's your real, actual government
One of my kids took the ACT test this past weekend. An essay question was "Should all laws be followed"
Kid says "I know they wanted a yes answer but I threw in some Founding Fathers stuff."
That'll save me the cost of a college education and it's nice to know that they listen to me more than the public school system.
The inmates run the asylums, and they have come for your children - in every meaning of that term.
From VA Right To Life Newsletter, Sep/Oct 2015
lUD'S GIVEN WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT IN
SEATTLE MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOLS
Kathleen Brown of CNSNews.com (7/1/15) reports,
"Middle and high school students can't get a Coca-Cola
or a candy bar at 13 Seattle public schools, but they can
get a taxpayer-funded intrauterine device (IUD)
implanted without their parents' consent. School-based
health clinics in at least 13 Seattle-area public high
schools and middle schools offer long-acting reversible
contraceptives (LARCs), including lUDs and hormonal
implants, to students in sixth-grade and above at no cost,
according to Washington State officials. LARCs are
associated with serious side effects, such as uterine
perforation and infection.
"The state and federally funded contraceptive services
are made possible by Take Charge, a Washington State
Medicaid program which provides free birth control to
adults who are uninsured, lack contraceptive coverage,
have an income at or below 260 percent of the Federal
Poverty level. or, in this case, to teens who don't want
their parents to know they're on birth control. In an email
exchange with the Washington State Health Care
Authority and CNSNews.com, a Take Charge
spokesperson acknowledged that underage students are
eligible for a 'full array of covered family planning
services' at school-based clinics if their parents meet the
program's requirements. Take Charge added that "a
student who does not want their parents to know they are
seeking reproductive health services is allowed to apply
for Take Charge using their own income, and if they are
insured under their parents' plan, the insurance would not
be billed."
"When asked if a sixth grader could get an IUD
implanted without parental consent, Take Charge told
CNSNews.com, 'We encourage all Take Charge
providers to offer long-acting reversible contraceptives(LARCs) in their clinics. A young person does not need
parental consent to obtain a LARC or any other
contraceptive method. If the young person is not choosing
abstinence, she would be able to select a LARC and have
it inserted without parental consent.'
"So while the students can't get a soda from the cafeteria
due to the Seattle School Board's 2004 ban on junk food,
they can get an IUD implanted at their school's health
center without their parents' knowledge or permission.
According to the Washington State Medicaid website,
health centers at four middle schools and nine high
sclrools in Seattle participate in the Take Charge program
cWe have public health departments, community-based
clinics, college and university clinics, pediatric clinics,
private physician practices, and family planning clinics,
like Planned Parenthood' as providers, Take Charge said
in the email exchange. A total of 38 Planned Parenthood
clinics participate in the Take Charge program.
"'Because we're at the school, which is so wonderful, we
have access to the students, and they have access to us,
pretty much any time,' said Katie Acker, a health
educator at two high school clinics run by Neighborcare
Health, which participates in the Take Charge program.
'We will send them a pass for whatever class is easiest or
best to get out of.'
"A 2014 Washington University study documented the
activities of the reproductive health educator and trends in
teen LARC uptake' at clinics participating in the Take
Charge program in West Seattle High School and Chief
Sealth International High School. Researchers found that
'school-based health providers often cited their lack of
formal training not only in inserting or removing lUDs
and contraceptive implants, but also with the procedures
in general.' One health care provider who was
interviewed reportedly commented: 'lt's still scary to
begin putting them in. Scary meaning that we know the
biggest complication risks come with the least experienced
providers. So how do you take that leap and just go for
it?'"
To be fair they probably won't get parental permission before becoming teen parents either.
That would become a "fair" comment when the fornications are officially state sanctioned policy, at school, and conducted by personnel payed with taxpayer money. Otherwise, your "fairness" is irrelevant bullshit.
The school board made some decisions this past summer about the middle school that I didn't agree with at all. I pulled my son from thier rosters and am now homeschooling. He's in 8th grade, this is supposed to be a one year thing. I think it was the best decision I ever made. I don't have to worry about him not doing his school work, being corrupted by common core, or getting suspended for stupid junior high stuff. He's not anxious any more. He learns at his own pace, which seems to be faster than the "no kid left behind" types. We get time together which is spent riding mountain bikes, building raised garden beds for mom, learning how to maintain vehicles and homes, and on those good days, going fishing. Just this past week I was thinking about how much more freedom he has by not attending a public school. I'm not so sure I want him to go back to institutionalized learning next year.
Me thinks ZH should create a spinoff entity that tracks the ins-n-outs of how parents can survive this insane education environment.
Get your ass on the board of supervisors.
Defund the public schools. There is no justification for them.
Things can always get worse. Coming to a school near you..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPqQolIkjhw
"Indeed, at a time when we are all viewed as suspects, there are so many ways in which a person can be branded a criminal for violating any number of laws, regulations or policies. Even if you haven’t knowingly violated any laws, there is still a myriad of ways in which you can run afoul of the police state and end up on the wrong side of a jail cell."
TRUER WORDS WERE NEVER SPOKEN.
America's schools are great. Some of the best in the world. This is all bs. The kids all have computers and more freedom than ever before. Compare them to some third world countries like in Asia and Russia where they still use little stubs of pencils to write out their homework, have no computers and must all dress in the same clothes. Check out some of the brainwashing those countries use on their kids. Can't even compare them to those of a free America.
Ask an American kid to make change from a cash register after 12 years of public school math. The look on their face is FEAR because the education system has failed them.
On Parents teacher day at my sons local High School we interviewed all his teachers. They were all bright and extremely likable.
My son seemed somewhat troubled and unmotivated at and after school so I asked the teachers what the goal was when they
taught ; was it application, comprehension, understanding? No it was to pass the test so they could get the funding and that their hands
were tied and were being forced to comply. They went so far as to give a sample test the day before the test (and in once case a breakfast meeting)
and then test them on the same material the next day and that was the score. My son brought home no homework and got Bs even in his Advanced courses.
This was not to say he was bright it is to say he was completely unchallenged and bored. I was extremely concerned for my sons future so we sent him
to a boarding school which challenges him and which is based on application of what he learns and full comprehesion and he is doing much better and
he participates in lots of school activities . He is happy and growing into someone who can easily contribute.
The young people I see with rare exception apply for jobs at my business are ill prepared to work and most of the shop classes have been cancelled in the
local high schools so not only are they intellectually failing they have no practical skills and ACT scores are the lowest in 40 years. The schools are failing
so home or private schools which challenge are the way to go. I only wish I had some control where my tax dollars are being spent as they go to bloated
school administrator salaries with no performance accountability and local police whose main job is to harass citizens as they go 6 miles over the speed
limit and firefighters who spend most of their time lounging around to retire on pensions that are higher then most salaries while they work on a
real job or double dip.
The schools are failing
Everything government touches fails.
To see why, look at the kind of people who end up in government. They aren't the achievers. They are those who are not picked up by the private sector (which gets first choice and can reward objectively).
The military is a particularly good microcosm to prove the point. A few elite (e.g. the academy students and some ROTC) slide in at the top. But it's school dropouts and those who can't get real jobs who fill the ranks. And they are putty in the hands of those elites.
I studied Genetic science as part of a biology Masters degree and I'll confess straight away I'm not a sociologist, but blacks around the world act and behave differently. I have an aunt who has a hotel in Jamaica, on Negril beach and I'm amazed how the school kids in Jamaica behave, compared to their African American counterparts. There is a 180 degree difference. The first thing you notice is the lack of noise and the civility. Maybe Jamaica Jim(if he is familiar with both places) can back me up on this fact. There are other factors at work irrelevant to the obvious IQ differences. It's one of many questions on racial differences we asked while studying(without political correctness) I'll be interested to hear views, because the black propensity to be violent argument, is not universal amongst the group.
There are other factors at work irrelevant to the obvious IQ differences.
Look at any IQ questions. They don't test intelligence at all. They test experience. The litmus test is obvious. If you can get different results by preparation, you are "not" testing intelligence. And you can obviously get different results through preparation on "all" IQ tests.
Just as there are very tiny differences in the overall genes of all members of the animal kingdom, there are very tiny differences in the potential of their offspring.
A puppy dog isn't going to learn to talk. And a human child is not going to learn to sniff out drugs. But among dogs, and among humans, the differences in innate capabilities (out of the box) are not dramatic. They can all be taught to perform given the innate abilities of their species (and race is "not" a species).
You will find dramatic differences in how different members of the animal kingdom nurture their young. And you will observe the obvious expected result.
I agree with your statement about IQ tests - they indeed test experience rather than IQ. But stating that the racial differences between human races or individuals are "tiny" is not correct : there are huge differences in abilities between human races and this is the case for physical as well as mental abilities. I think you may be aware of the difference between a pygmee and a north american basketballplayer. The fastest runners of the world are blacks ( they have longer legs ). And in terms of real IQ, the best "test" is just to look what a race as a group achieved over the last 2000 years - and the conclusion is OBVIOUS. The differences are huge and do not diminish : as soon as the white man gets kicked out of a black African country, their society collapses within 10 years and they return to tribal wars, famine, pestilences, broken infrastructure, inexistent schooling, rape and plunder. And then they claim all this is due to the white man "who abandoned them" ( and this was literally told to me by a Congolese who fled his own country for South Africa. He came to South Africa because there were still white men - the country still worked - HIS words, not mine ). Who is the racist here ?????
Yup, IQ tests are a fraud.
To actually test intelligence they need to test unique problems that defy prior experience, which means we need pre-testing to find out what is the experence baseline before we start the actual test.
If you're really intelligent you'll solve problems that have an intellectual process but no basis at all from your prior experience.
I live in South Africa, and I am a Caucasian originating from West Europe ( emigrated 5+ years ago ).I find it impossible to explain back "home" the obvious differences between races - black, coloured, white since then, I am considered to be a neo-nazi or at least a racist.In terms of behaviour, there are black people ( Malawi, e.g. ) who are very kind and honest. Other blacks ( Zulu, Xhosa ) tend to be arrogant, short fused and steal whenever they see the opportunity. Coloured people also vary strongly : the Bushmen are very kind and honest, Malay/Indian tend to be trickerisch when you do business with them. Afrikaners ( white, Dutch/German/French/Belgian origin ) can be very rude but most of them behave correctly. These are of course "average" statements for each group of people. But what is certain is the fact that blacks score low on IQ - they just function differently. They live here and now, tomorrow is of no concern to them. It happens every day that someone who used to work for you during several years all of a sudden doesn't show up anymore just like that - no warning. Planning? Never heard of it. Properly finishing a job? Never heard of it. Initiative? Nope. I once heard a very correct statement : you can get a black man out of the jungle, but you will never get the jungle out of a black man. With far-east people ( Chinese, Japanese ) one NEVER has problems, they work hard, are smart and behave correctly. What stuns me is that everybody agrees there are racial differences for species like dogs, horses, parrots, .... but if one discusses "mankind" - oho, just communicating what EVERYONE sees EVERYDAY is impossible. Same thing for muslims : they have a habit of interbreeding with their nieces/cousins/people of the same tiny village for 12 centuries now - that's NOT good for ones IQ, believe me. In the west, such intermarriages are forbidden because we know of the kind of mental problems one gets then. Even the Inuit know this very well. Just look at the "achievements" of muslims and blacks over the last 1000 years and make your conclusions. I rest my case.
Let us talk about unspeakable truths. Haplogroup R1a + R1b which is us(European), including the subclades are you aware there are IQ differences between European groups; ie; Bulgarians vs Germans. The English vs Irish etc? Anecdotally, do you believe from your observations there are IQ differences between African groups. ie; North, East, West, Central and Southern African, as well as those from the Caribbean, North, South and Central America? It will be interesting to hear your thoughts.
IT's the bastard children epidemic. Its that no longer do families eat dinner together.
All this is the by product of broken families.
The statistics from 1965 to today are horrendous as to what has happened to family culture in the US.
I agree with your assessment, but it won't be a popular opinion with the pseudo geneticists on Zero hedge. I firmly fall into the nurture camp reading the behaviour of African Americans in inner city school and NO, I'm not claiming nurture when it comes to test scores. Also there are facets of this debate not even being engaged, outside of the "they are feral" argument. Some of these issues/problems are UNIQUE to America and the answer to these questions doesn't reside in the genes.
It is indeed. The divorce industry has punished men for marrying so they just can't keep a family together. The cash & prizes for divorce are too much.
Which then leaves other men just knocking up women recklessly.
It's a chaotic spiral of destruction
" Black students are three times more likely than white students to face suspension and expulsion." AT least you are willing to admit that their is a behavioral difference between races.
AT least you are willing to admit that their is a behavioral difference between races.
I submit that the real differences are in nurture. If we spent less on the children and paid more attention to the nurture of those children (ie. the parents), we would get a better result.
It is well known among elementary school teachers that when a certain ethnicity of student is obviously doing poorly it takes no effort to see the negative impact their parents are having on them.
The opposite is also true. Economically poor students of some ethnicities can be seen to deliver superior performance. Look at what is going on at home and you see why.
They're trying to fix what is a real problem by diluting the result. They should be focusing on excising at the source.
Reading comprehension isn't your strength.
How they are treated is not how they behave - it's how others behave TO them.
It has been said that America’s schools are the training ground for future generations. Instead of raising up a generation of freedom fighters, however, we seem to be busy churning out newly minted citizens of the American police state who are being taught the hard way what it means to comply, fear and march in lockstep with the government’s dictates.
They are also learning that you can't trust The Man. Reminds me of the 60's. Maybe this time the kids will make a difference.
http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?165232-quot-What-it-s-...
What is it Like to Teach Black Students?
by Christopher Jackson
Until recently I taught at a predominantly
black high school in a southeastern
state.
The mainstream press gives a hint of
what conditions are like in black schools,
but only a hint. Expressions that journalists
use like “chaotic” or “poor learning
environment” or “lack of discipline” do
not capture what really happens. There
is nothing like the day-to-day experience
of teaching Black children and that is
what I will try to convey.............
Thanks, that link you quoted makes for very good reading from a first-hand-experienced teacher dealing with black kids.
"young people like citizens of a republic and not inmates in a police state."
Fools! A republic IS a police state!
You got what you asked for