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Putin Accuses World Of "Using Terrorist Groups" To Destabilize Governments
If you’ve followed the incessant back-and-forth between Washington and Moscow over the course of the proxy wars raging in Ukraine and Syria, you know that the Kremlin is without equal when it comes to describing US foreign policy in a way that is both succinct and accurate.
This was on full display earlier this year when Vladimir Putin’s Security Council released a document that carried the subtle title "About The US National Security Strategy.” We’ve also seen it on a number of occasions over the past several weeks in the wake of Russia’s stepped up military role in support of the Assad regime at Latakia. For instance, last week, Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova delivered the following hilariously veracious assessment of how Washington has sought to characterize Moscow’s relationship with Damascus:
"First we were accused of providing arms to the so-called 'bloody regime that was persecuting democratic activists, now it's a new edition - we are supposedly harming the fight against terrorism. That is complete rubbish."
Yes, it probably is, but let’s not forget that Russia hasn’t exactly been forthcoming when it comes to acknowledging that, like Washington, Moscow’s interest in Syria is only related to terrorism to the extent that terrorism serves as a Western tool to destabilize the Assad regime which, you’re reminded, must remain in place if Putin intends to protect Gazprom’s iron grip over Europe’s supply of natural gas.
Of course what that suggests is that even as Russia uses ISIS as a smokescreen to justify sending troops to Syria, the Kremlin is by definition being more honest about its motives than The White House. That is, ISIS has destabilized Assad and because Russia has an interest in keeping the regime in power, Moscow actually does have a reason to eradicate Islamic State. The US, on the other hand, facilitated the destabilization of the country in the first place by playing a role in training and arming all manner of Syrian rebels, and to say that some of them might well have gone on to fight for ISIS would be a very generous assessment when it comes to describing the CIA’s involvement (a less generous assessment would be to call ISIS a “strategic CIA asset”). That means that the US will only really care about wiping out ISIS once Assad is gone and it’s time to install a puppet government that’s friendly to both Washington and Riyadh and at that point - assuming there are no other regimes in the area that the Pentagon feels like might need destabilizing - the US military will swiftly “liberate” Syria from the ISIS “scourge.”
To be sure, Russia is well aware of the game being played here and if there’s anything Vladimir Putin is not, it’s shy about calling the US out, which is precisely what he did on Tuesday at a security summit of ex-Soviet countries in Dushanbe, Tajikistan. Bloomberg has more:
Russian President Vladimir Putin said the fight against Islamic State should be the global community’s top priority in Syria, rather than changing the regime of Bashar al-Assad.
“It’s necessary to think about the political transition in that country” and Assad is willing to “involve healthy opposition forces in the administration of the state,” Putin said. “But the focus today is definitely on the need to combine forces in the fight against terrorism.”
Countries need to “put aside geopolitical ambitions” as well as “direct or indirect use of terrorist groups to achieve” goals that include regime change, in order to counter the threat of Islamic State, Putin said. “Elementary common sense responsibility for global and regional security demands the collective effort of the international community.”
The first thing to note there is that Putin has essentially called the US out for using terrorists to destabilize Assad. So for anyone just looking for the punchline, that was it. Everyone else, read on.
At this point what should be obvious is that Vladimir Putin’s intentions in Syria are anything but unclear. Russia is openly supplying the Assad regime with military aid in an effort to prevent terrorists and extremists (some of which were trained by the US and received aid from Qatar) from facilitating the strongman’s ouster. It’s that simple and frankly, the only two things Russia hasn’t made explicitly and publicly clear (because this is international diplomacy after all, which means everyone is always lying about something) are i) the role that natural gas plays in all of this, and ii) that the Kremlin will seek to prevent anyone from overthrowing Assad, so to the extent that there are any real, well-meaning “freedom fighters” in Syria, they’ll find themselves on the wrong end of Russian tank fire just the same as ISIS.
As clear as that is, the US must stick to the absurd notion that the Pentagon just can’t seem to get to the bottom of what Russia is doing and to the still more absurd idea that Russia - who seems to be the only outside party that’s actually interested in fighting ISIS as evidenced by the fact that there are Russian boots on the ground - is somehow hurting the very serious effort by the US and its allies to defeat Islamic radicals in Syria. Here’s Bloomberg again:
Russia’s intentions in Syria are unclear and it’s important for U.S. diplomats to understand them, Martin Dempsey, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters in Tallinn, Estonia, on Tuesday. While Putin’s said it wants to prevent Islamic State’s expansion, “explaining the purpose and seeing how it actually evolves on the ground are two very different things and we will be working on that,” Dempsey said.
Right, “explaining” that your “purpose” is to take your very powerful military and defeat what amounts to a large militia that’s woefully under-armed and under-trained by comparison “and seeing how it actually evolves are two very different things.” If you buy that argument, then you are buying into the patently ridiculous idea that if the US and Russia were to bring their combined military might to bear on ISIS in Syria, that somehow the outcome of that battle would be in doubt.
The Pentagon knows that notion is silly, but what it also knows is that once American troops are on the ground, there’s no not routing the other militants while you’re there, so what would happen in relatively short order, is that the opposition would be all gone and then, well, what do you do with Assad?
The much more straightforward way to go about this (unless of course you have a 9/11 and a story about WMDs buried in the desert as a cover that makes an outright, unilateral invasion possible), is to allow for the entire country to descend into chaos until one or more rebel/extremist groups finally manages to take Damascus, at which point you simply walk in with the Marines and remove them, then install any government you see fit. In the meantime, you just fly over and bomb stuff (hopefully with a coalition that includes Europe) in order to ensure that the situation remains sufficiently unstable. But now this plan won’t work, because unless we see a replay of the Soviet-Afghan war, none of Syria’s rebel groups are going to be able to rout the Russian army which means the US is stuck doing exactly what it’s doing now: trying to explain why it won’t join Russia in a coalition to eradicate ISIS while working to figure out what’s next now that the Russians are officially on the ground.
We'll close with the following from Alexander Golts, a military analyst and deputy editor of the online newspaper Yezhednevny Zhurnal who spoke to WSJ:
“The idea of this is…to show Russia as part of the alliance of civilized nations that are standing against barbarism. But that idea won’t have much of a chance, because the U.S. and the Saudis and others consider Assad the source of the problem.”
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First bitchez
Who fucking cares that you're first? Small penis syndrome?
Kids these days.
Dont think the Founding Fathers had in mind founding terrorist groups lopping off heads of Christians in mind. But then hey team Zion is running things now.
Does wendigo come from TF Metals report? That's the only thing they do around there: post their sequence number.
I can't believe Putin would even think such a thing...
DaddyO
edit: Ok, who's the moron that can't see the sarcasm in my comment?
http://www.rt.com/news/315465-bmw-ceo-faints-stage/
Symbolic of what is happening in Germany right now. And very Prophetic.
Germany is on its way down, the ROT starts from the TOP (at least with fish it does). Merkel is about the most rotten one there is. Seems like the disease is spreading.
They all should of stayed away from Nulands SWEETS
http://www.collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=12031
Scroll down and see that life is Sweet for the ones on the Winning Team.
Putin: "Putin Accuses World Of "Using Terrorist Groups" To Destabilize Governments"
Yeah, well: The Truth Is Treason In An NWO-Bankster's Empire Of Lies
"Welcome to Europe, invaders!" - Soros
It is hard to believe the POS that is Soros could get any stinkier, but he will stop at nothing.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Tk74-O-so
But now this plan won’t work, because unless we see a replay of the Soviet-Afghan war, none of Syria’s rebel groups are going to be able to rout the Russian army which means the US is stuck doing exactly what it’s doing now: trying to explain why it won’t join Russia in a coalition to eradicate ISIS while working to figure out what’s next now that the Russians are officially on the ground.
Putin is calling out the USSA on its BS, and showing to the world that Amerika is the greatest sponsor of Islamic Terrorism. Putin will offer proof that the USSA is behind the creation of ISIS, and the best way to eradicate terrorism is to stop supporting it to overthrow governments Amerika does not like. This is the real story.
Who is Putin to preach to our Muslim president .... call Obama out, Vlad .... Islam is evil aggression from the Quran up .... just like National Socoalism, Communism and Latin anarchists like Latin Lover !
"Terrorist group" = CIA.
Nuff said.
"Hot, fit, smart chicks" = Secret Service
Muff said
Perez Durden, sheesh. I think it is clear that by World, he means "The United States" (i.e. how it often perceives the "mandate" of its unilateral policy) and by "Terrorist Groups" he means ISIS, and by "Governments" he means Syria.
by World, he means "The United States"
He states it that way because of Bush" your either with us or your a terro..ist"
Latina - While all of this is correct subtle but dangerous signals are not being heard by the American public at large and some that is like WSJ readers isnt being absorbed as to just how dangerous all this is.
Check out Karl Denningers site. He has commentators discussing going over there and "kicking muzzies asses" on a thread about following money. i don't see Karl's magic ban-hammer coming out or even scolding these people. But oh oh hoh! Bring up how the BIS and CFR relations run this world and watch how fast that hammer comes out.
While I admire the man for educating on some issues he is is fucktarded willfully ignorant on what really counts in how systems work. That is wierd considerin he touts himself as a master systems engineer.
This situation wit Russia is analagous to cornering a grizzly in his cave and you have a .22. Sure you'll kill it but not before it knocks your head off. And even though Putin may be attempting to be more moderate (out ot necessity) he would not hesitate to kill every living person on earth and even accept 50% Russian casualties than have Russia become owned again by Jmafia. And tye Russian people would be right behind him all the way.
As a double agent training of course will play a game within a game. Shit though even Kissinger knows this is taking a really bad turn.
Enough said about this subject. Some things going forward may hurt rather than help the global populace and my American countrymen. But I really wished some leaders understood we are 40-50 years from ending classical death and onto other places even potentially outside our very universe. One big giant waste of time and the death toll will get God awful.
Denninger's a legend in his own mind.
I wouldn't waste too much time on that guy.
RD-
1) I've admired your thought process since you posited that the story of the birth of Jesus seems an awful lot like a layman's account of an alien visitation.
2) Denninger banned you too, huh?
Acetinker - The ancients just believed that aliens existed as a fact of life. When we open the portal to 4D I wager they ask us "what took you so long."
Karl didnt openly ban me but blocked my email after I sent him something on the BIS. I met him in person so was surprised he acted like such a rigid idealogue. Debate is not his fortay.
I liked his stuff a few years back when it was more numbers based. I do like his understanding of health issues and the racket healthcare has become.
No way I could down vote you. But your comment was a bit dis-jointed. Putin simply represents his people at a far, far better level than his Russian and Soviet predecessors. We, on the other hand, decided a long time ago--say my name--to be savagely fucked up the ass--as long as the guy sticking it to us did it with a smile. We will die, ass-clowns who still like him will die...and the ass-clown's kids are good as dead---way, way before their time...
Do you mean like the times people predicted:
Putin would expose the real conspirators behind 9/11
or
Putin would expose who really shot down MH317
or
Putin would expose what really happened and why in Benghazi
or
....
It's a long game. Whatever their position in the worldwide Game of Thrones, Putin and his cronies are the most forthright and honest players, just now.
Take it for what it's worth.
+1. I'll give Pooty-Poot credit.....at least his mobster-spook oligarchical self knows how to play the 'I care about the little people' meme better than most western bankster-puppets. However, in the end he's part of the same crew, pretending to be at odds with his western counterparts. In the end, they'll all most likely be clinking expensive champagne goblets at the same 'We Run This Whole Fucking Planet' party....once the much-desired one-world-gubbermint is in place along with cashless civilization. Naturally, they need their Super Duper Deluxe Mondo XXXL Mega World War to take place first. You know, to help trim the hedges and do a little weedeating of humanity.
You had my upvote at "soros"
Maybe, but Putin made some sort of deal with KSA during that last lavrov visit. This is 3 dimensional chess and KSA is in on it, lets hope one of the pieces sacrificed in not the petro dollar...
Fook the petro-$.
If Putin really wanted to be succinct and accurate, he should send Lavrov to the UN to address the General Assembly and assembled Heads of State in English.
Any chance some of the other nations belonging to the BRICS coalition will back Putin up in Syria with some meaningful support? Chinese troops perhaps? Does Vlad hold enough international political clout to rally new nations to support Assad? We shall see.
I wonder if Vlad is going to offer to take in any meaningful amount of Syrian muslims into Russia. I doubt it.
Why should he clean up the US's faults? Maybe the US should take all of the so called refugees, after all they created the mess. Maybe Hitlery should have a few hundred move to her house...
Sooner or later the bully of the sand box has to pay the piper.
Quoting Urban Redneck, "If Putin really wanted to be succinct and accurate, he should send Lavrov to the UN to address the General Assembly and assembled Heads of State in English."
WTF??????
Everybody addresses the General Assembly in their own native tongues. Even Kerry does (mind you, not that he would be able to do otherwise).
You want to put the UN translators out of work or something?
Will Samantha Power discuss matters in Russian ? Lavrov speaks English and Singhalese......what languages has Obama mastered ? Ebonics ? Do Americans actually speak "English" ? They certainly don't seem to comprehend it
The UN would not lay off desk jockeys if Hell froze over. Anyone can address the UN in whatever language they please, and the UN is always happy to hire moar desk jockeys to accommodate them.
Lavrov can, in English, articulate the long and inevitably backfiring history of US arming terrorists and draw the parallel to current situation with ISIS in Syria. Over 80% of the leaders assembled comprehend English, and 100% of their press corps and thought police do, as well as a huge chuck of their respective plebes back home, which eliminates a massive and critical tool of the establishment to control the public narrative. It wouldn't be politically (or socially) correct for Putin to so, even if could speak fluent English, but that's what Foreign Ministers are for.
I saw the sarcasm. The US is such a fucking amatuer here. That they got caught like this is really the playing out of the story where Putin is playing chess and Obama (or whomever is steering him) is playing checkers. The table might get thrown over by the fools.
Our "government has been doing this for 50 fucking years, at least. Central America, South Ameria, various Asian nations, the middle east, north Africa,, central Africa....I wont even bother naming all the countries its fucked over. Time for them to pay the god damned piper if you ask me.
Really. Might as well have a headline saying "Putin Accuses Governments of Collecting Taxes and Making Expenditures."
Really. Might as well have a headline saying "Putin Accuses Governments of Collecting Taxes and Making Expenditures."
50 years? Hell, it's been screwing over MENA for at least 70 years. Central and South America have gotten hosed since before the Civil War.
uhm, not sure where Putin has been for the last 30+ years .... but no shit sherlock
Nicaraguan Contra
Jundallash terrorist group that attacks Iran
Mujahideen
and on and on
I dunno where putin has been, but it seems practicing judo, fucking gymnists, shooting guns and selling oil pays the bills. gotta give it to the Russians, at least they are amicable for the most part. Im an American, through and through. but dealing with Murikistanians is the absolute worst experience. i avoid it at all costs.
Free book on the subject by John Perkins
http://library.uniteddiversity.coop/Money_and_Economics/confessions_of_a...
The paid subscription finally put him over the edge. Now he just wanders the internet aimlessly in search of new threads in which to claim "first"...
The Criminal Faud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. arming, funing & training terror organizations since against the Soviets.
The Founding Fathers would never have approved of Israeli Rita Katz and her green screen videos of fake ISIS beheadings and other nonsense. I hope Spielberg works with her soon so ISIS can feed hostages tio a Great White shark and to dinosaurs.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d14_1412697367
A great white shark, with a blue star on his side. That would be Bitchin'.
SkyByte, that's yer cue... :>D
The Founding Fathers sure as hell would NEVER have approved of dual citizens, let alone allowing them in elected or high level government offices, either.
Unbelievable that Chuck Schumer is in line to be the Senate Leader for the Dems when Reid resigns at the end of this year.
Any honest review of what has happened throughout government, finance, and the Defense Industry since this became legal in 1967 will point to this terrible cancer that is killing this country.
Chuck Schumer's primary concerns in order of importance:
1. Chuck Schumer
2. Chuck Schumer
3. Chuck Schumer
4. AIPAC $$$$
5. Chuck Schumer's Committee assignments:
.... Schumer currently serves on the following Senate Committees in the 114th United States Congress:
.... Committee on Finance;
.... Subcommittee on Health Care;
.... Subcommittee on Taxation and IRS Oversight;
.... Subcommittee on Social Security, Pensions and Family Policy;
.... Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs;
.... Subcommittee on Housing, Transportation, and Community Development;
.... Subcommittee on Financial Institutions;
.... Subcommittee on Securities, Insurance and Investment;
.... Committee on the Judiciary;
.... Subcommittee on Administrative Oversight and the Courts;
.... Subcommittee on Antitrust, Competition Policy and Consumer Rights;
.... Subcommittee on Crime and Drugs;
.... Subcommittee on Immigration, Refugees and Border Security (Ranking Member);
.... Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security;
.... Committee on Rules and Administration (Ranking Member);
.... Joint Committee on the Library (Vice Chair);
.... Joint Committee on Printing ..."Get to work Mr. Chairman.." (Chairman);
.... Joint Economic Committee ;
.... International Narcotics Control Caucus;
.... Joint Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies (Chair).
6. Israel
7. The Democratic National Committee
8. Campaign donations and bribes paid to Chuck Schumer
9. 'Jews'
10. Chuck Schumer's hair
I did not know there was a committee on Crime and Drugs. One would think crime was big enough on its own.
11b40 - Good point. Consider this. Empires seem to last less than 400 years. This banking one where it buys governments has just about run its course.
It was no wonder Jefferson was freaking out about a private central bank to run the currency. Because once that happens it is only a matter of time before the government sells out.
By the late eighties the Rothschild model pretty much conquered the globe. When that happens and empire attempts to use an iron fist to retain all power is when it all goes south pretty quickly. Shame that playing King of the Hill this time will get 1/3 of the global population dead. As for specifics, lets just say evolution. As mentioned not going to inflame passions on by offering up certain speculations any more.
God bless people of all nations. May we forgive one another after this cycle ends. All of our shit kinda reeks a bit if one really has the stones to look in a mirror.
Father, forgive us for what we must do
You forgive us, we'll forgive you.
We'll forgive each other til we both turn blue
Then we'll whistle and go fishing in heaven.
-J. Prine-
My spiritual guru for Tuesdays and Saturdays.
Loved John Prine for a long, long time. One of my favorite verses:
How the hell can a person
Get up in the morning
Come home in the evening
And have nothing to say?
Angle From Montgomery......a real treat - JP & Bonnie Raitt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T5NuI6Ai-o
#It was no wonder Jefferson was freaking out about a private central bank to run the currency. Because once that happens it is only a matter of time before the government sells out.
There are people who will not sell out to the banks. But they can be replaced.
WW3 the war of bankers and banking families against the citizens of planet earth.
Founding Fathers were terrorists. It has always been in the interest of the powerholder to name people they disagree with as terrorists. And I think Christians can stand some culling, after all they killed millions. Sometimes retribution takes some time, but it always happens.
My brother-in-law watches Hannity all the time. Blah blah blah Christians are being killed. Blah blah blah we have to save the Christians. Blah blah blah its so bad for Christians. Then I get to hear it coming out of the mouths of other parrots, Blah blah blah Christians are being killed. Blah blah blah we have to save the Christians. Blah blah blah its so bad for Christians.
Television is bad enough for people, but people actually watch that visual cancer.
The only time it seems to get interrupted is when some land-whale-army member gets fat shamed, then it starts up again.
Founding Fathers were terrorists. It has always been in the interest of the powerholder to name people they disagree with as terrorists. And I think Christians can stand some culling, after all they killed millions. Sometimes retribution takes some time, but it always happens.
The Founding Fathers were for limited government. Duh.
Which begs the question, what murders more than anything, even including war?
Well the correct answer is------ GOVERNMENT! Yes, government murders moar than anything or anybody! DUH!
And what governments murder moar than any other governments?
That would be----Progressive non-Christian governments for the win!
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/MURDER.HTM
https://youtu.be/XW15CGAiscw
Oh yeah, your right retribution will come just not like you are thinking.
The Godless progressive stupid, it burns.
Grimaldus
Ah yes....the now famous claims of Christianity murdering MILLIONS of people. When exactly? Crusades? Inquisition? For the sake of argument lets say Christians killed a bunch of people during those eras. Now lets compare those TOTAL numbers to the amount of people, of all types.....killed by godless atheist governments. Heck, lets just compare it to one such government....say, Chairman Mao's? On the order of 40+ million chinese killed during his 'great leap foward'?
Oh yeah, gotta make them christians pay!
"We destablized some folks"
A normal person wouldn't think anything of it. Only a fuckwad would get so irritated he needed to say something. Thanks for outing yourself.
Hey, I'm the first one to reply to that comment!
FRIST
FRIST
DailyKos circa 2004.
Hey !, I can't stop writing "duck and cover". !
So when did you dad leave you and tour mom?
Did he just call out the USA for arming ISIS when they were "moderates". I think he did!
It sounds as if Putin has called out the USA for trying to bullshit the world that ISIS isn't a US proxy.
Whether the proxy is still under control or has slipped the leash doesn't seem to be implied unless I'm missing something.
I would hazard a guess that since ISIS has been sacking US stocked Iraqi military bases, munitions stockpiles, armouries, and US capitalized banks without restraint that the question is pretty much open to conjecture.
It has just been too easy for ISIS to seize weapons, funds, territory, etc..
-Much of this was Bush Sr.'s NO FLY ZONE. The US trained and armed Iraqi Army turns tail or runs to joins up?
IF ISIS has slipped the leash then the US has created a serious problem for themselves.
It woudl mean that the CIA/MIC has stupidly created and armed a bunch of Radical Islamics far worse than Colonel Kurtz and now they have come roaring out of the wilderness armed to the hilt with modern kit to do it medievel style for it's own gory sake.
It would be a disasterous blunder of historic magnitude. It would indicate that whole US security and intelligence apparatuses, personnel structures, oversight, etc.., require decommisioning, reconstitution and serious reformation at a very basic level and throughout the system. Serious security apparatus FUBAR. -Pretty much back to square one.
IF the US really wanted ISIS defeated it WOULD take up with Russia and stomp this shit right now.
It is very telling -and very disappointing and frightening that the focus of the Obama Administration is on dislodging Assad and confronting Russia instead of dispatching ISIS.
I still have NOT heard a cogent reasoned argument as to why dislodging Assad is the imperative as opposed to extinguishing ISIS.
Because um...
Terrorists? Or sumpthin.
You can read about it in a State Dept. e-mail.
Oh, wait...
No, you can't.
"I still have NOT heard a cogent reasoned argument as to why dislodging Assad is the imperative as opposed to extinguishing ISIS."
The US has had it in for Assad from a long time back. He and his dad outfoxed them (and Israel) many times, and you just don't do that.
What I'm saying is, pipeline aside, it's personal.
But he'll outfox them again. What could he do? Allow the pipeline to go through, and at the same time grant the Russians a 99 year lease right next to it where they can park their ships, aircraft and ground troops on a permanent basis, and pay for the whole deal out of pipeline revenue.
In addition, they can grant massive reconstruction and public works contracts to Russian outfits, just like the US did in Iraq. That, plus other economic arrangements could make up for the temporary (til China kicks in) shortfall in gas revenue.
The pipeline is going through, one way or another. The Russians realize this or they wouldn't be partnering with China, so why not grab the opportunity to have it under your immediate control?
OK, enough said. Gotta write an email to Putin.
More likely - large asshole
First all bitches die, then peace on Earth.
IMHO this is a troll like behaviour. Most of the comments thread is routed to "reply"s to the said "comment", a feature only ZH uses (sorry Sac).
Who will scroll down through 100 comments to learn what others think, or post something.
Be good, you all!
2013 Assad chemical attack lies, any Zios care to debate?
Even Obozo had to swallow then spit...
but he didn't spit
lol, we were "this close" to some air strikes, according to foaming at the mouth Zio intelligentsia like Lawrence Korb and Richard Haas
The new phrase is "barrel bombs".
Makes it sound like they're mixing cow dung and saltpeter in the garage. Which must surely be a war crime...
Barrel bombs are so much more barbaric than the US-supplied cluster munitions "our" brave Saudi allies are using on Yemeni civilians.
Consider how many more cluster bombs you can get on a plane. More bombs, more casualities. Less flights, more fuel saved.
Barrel bombs == jalopy warfare
Barrel Bombs = Propaganda warfare.
FIFY.
Werent barrel bombs used in WW2 to destroy bridges? I may have read/seen that somewhere....
edit: dams...not bridges...i blame the gin combined with my sheer stupidity.
Gin will do that to you.
You may be smarter than you drink ;-)
Propaganda with alliteration.
It doesn't get any better than that.
Yeah, they roll them out of choppers.
If they were really cool like us, they would just use drones......or may some white phosphorus.
Are there videos of barrel bombs rolling out of choppers? Or do we have to rely on US paid monitors, the same liars who say they saw mustard gas shot from Syrian positions?
I did see a Syrian war video, from a pro-cannibal perspective ... Vice News. They hear barrel bomb. They rush to the barrel bomb site. They go inside, look around and come out with a guy on a stretcher who may be dead. Thing is, he looks like a jihadi combatant. Look at any ANNA video of the war and see the fights take place in urban distopia, wastelands. Everything is destroyed. Every non-combatant is long gone.
These things are much more acceptable than barrel bombs, I'm sure.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israel-using-flechette-shel...
Thing is, though, that if a bomb kills you it makes little difference what type it was.
It ceases to make a difference (other than evidentiary) once you are dead.
However, slowly bleeding out from shrapnel wounds and/or burns is very different from a quick exit at ground zero of a shock wave (or Kim Jong-un mortar salute).
Pretty hard to beat being tied to the muzzle of an artillery piece for an effective dispatch.
Not very cost effective use of munitions but it does present a certain "Wow" factor in keeping the troops in line.
I try not to be grammar/English police, but one term that is hugely mis-used is 'decimation'
One of my pet hates (I only have a few, give me a break)
The clue is in the 'deci' part - Latin for one tenth.
Decimation was a way of making sure Roman legions performed.
In a badly failing unit ONE IN TEN wold be executed - to 'encourage' the remaining 90%
I think the Brits used the canon muzzle method to 'bring the benefits of civilization' to the region.
Well, "devastation" is just so much harder to say! :>D
Not the world , the United States .
Flash back: this is a war on terror, a never ending self created war.
He's right in many ways it's all a staged event.
War OF Terror . not ON terror.
All wars are terror
All wars are funded and incited by bankers. Look who your bankers are.
They also have a huge money laudering operation on soil there labeled as a country.
(chorus)
"We blow off the roof
gave the devil his hoove
people called us liars
but goddammit world
we were just one consonant
from the truth.."
- Joe Biden & Dick Cheney in the Musical Version of Jim Marrs The Terror Conspiracy
- What are you fighting?
- Terror!
- But what does the war create?
- Terror!
- So, you're fighting against the consequences of the actions you've involved in?
- Yes... but that is good peace-loving terror! Kinda like terror-lite.
- Wow! I can't believe it's not terror!
(Steve Hughes)
We were always at war with Eastasia. Where were you at this mornings 15 minutes of hate?
Moving into Africa, and back into South America....preparing for next season series.
Until the dollar collapses, we will continue to see millions of innocents die, countries destroyed, waves of refugees, continued TERROR!
Moving into Africa, and back into South America....preparing for next season series.
Until the dollar collapses, we will continue to see millions of innocents die, countries destroyed, waves of refugees, continued TERROR!
I was wondering when he was going to put the U.S. on the spot. Obama/CIA, your move.
He probably has dirt on 9-11 and MH-17 as an ace up his sleeve.
Don't you think he was the one who outed the Nuland audio, to great effect I might add.
DaddyO
Yeah, that's always exhibit #2 to trot out whenever some berk says Ukraine is all Russia's fault.
Exhibit #1 is the video of her saying the US had fed $5b into Ukrainian NGO's to strengthen democratic institutions*
*democratic institutions like Pravi Sektor, no doubt
If he (Putin) intercepted the live ATC tapes from the MH17 botched false flag - he wins.
Say, that reminds me... What ever happened to the (ATC) guy who said UK fighters were in the air space and approaching MH17 before the UK nazi's (Noolander's boyz) broke into the tower and confiscated the evidence?
Someone might want to ask him some questions... if he's still alive. But then again, we might get some answers, ya know - if that's what we really wanted.
Thanks Captain Obvious
World - he means West.
A well-known code word for the US and the crippled midgets who follow it around.
Like the World Series.
It's not the 'world', it's primarily Anglo American elites who don't give a damn about their own populations.
"The only agenda of the American elite is the continual consolidation of wealth and power into higher, tighter
and righter hands."
George HW Bush
Yes....his BASE....The 1/1Oth of 1% & the next 10-15% whose paycheck depends on the status quo, the then a whole bunch of morons who supported him & Cheney as they ass raped and pillaged America.
Go Trump, or go Bernie........Go anybody who will turn over this rotten barrel of apples. No one, not one single person running for president will actually change anything, with these 2 possible exceptions.
Well the source of the problem lies with the US/Israeli ZioCons and the Saudi's as ex marine Ken O"Keefe pretty much nails it.!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcKbNyWw-JE
Yeah well....he's right. I wish the Russian troops the best of luck in Syria.
Without the MIC jobs the USA economy would be totally fucked
USA is now at the point where they HAVE to keep creating wars
Eisenhower was 100 percent correct.
Yeah that's check if not check mate. Ain't shit Gona happen pipe line wize now he's there. We are in election mode here in former United States . In the mean time Europe being flooded with refugees as winter approaches . This is a fine mess olly obo
The Russian sanctiond were designed to hurt europe as much as Russia.
The refugee problems are designed as well.
Alls fair in love and war, and this isn't a romance.
The Dual Citizen Zionists will destroy Europe rather then let her join Russia or have any independence. This is all about maintaining the USA Zionist run Empire.
Maybe so but the Europeans voted them in themselves.
When Bush was president many countries in Europe told the US to pound sand. France has been doing that since end of WWII.
Obama truly must be the magic negro for no person before was able to unite the leaders of Europe so conclusively, especially when you consider that they are united like a flock of dodo birds and heading for the cliff with their eyes wide open.
Worst than this... Russians are competitors in weapons supply... BASTARDS!!!
They will break our monopoly of death and violence!!!! ;-)
Not a happy day when we find ourselves defending one tyrant from another. Personally I don't want to be under the thumb of any of these fuckers.
If I lived in US I would probably drink twice as much as I do.
Looking at the 'choices' being presented for the upcoming Election Theatre would drive any semi-sentient being to drink.
I always wonder how one human can claim the right to impose his/her will on another. It all falls down for me at that point.
Until you fall on the wrong side of nature, then it all becomes clear.
The advanced AA that Russia deployed probably isn't for ISIS. Last time I checked ISIS didn't have an air force.
Yep - and they're probably breaking out the good shit too. Only the best for their arriving 'guests'...
It certainly makes it difficult to get from there to further from there, with those SS 20's watching you.
Sadly, they do have an Air Force, which is largely comprised of American-made aircraft.
"Government", the control arm of the State, is the only terrorist.
He's right to a degree, but the Russians are just about as guilty as everyone else. I don't think anyone can claim any "high ground" on this issue.
Not even close. give examples. BTW,, Russia did NOT invade Ukraine
Funding was provided to the Italian Red Brigades via the Old Soviet Bloc. They carried out many terrorist attacks, including the murder of Italian PM Aldo Moro in 1978.
Sure that wasn't Operation Gladio?
Hey genius. Wake up. Times have changed. THe Russians are crony capitalists now.
Enjoy living in the past?
I upvoted you. From a very dry position competition for energy resources is compettion for energy resources. Doesn't mean I condone methods or outdated strategy.
Sorry Putin. The sociopaths are expanding ISIS into the EU and the US.
Now and then I read zerro postings - mostly for the comments and eventual links to informative sources.
Here is one article I find "delicious" and enjoyed reading. Immigration and the mammons. Written in 2005...
http://www.unz.com/ishamir/on-the-move/
Prescient article. 10/10, would recommend to friends.
Take it away, Bob:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iibFjwaU9tI
I'm calling bullshit Vladimir. He fails to call out the biggest pink elephant in the room, the 911 'terrorist attack'. He could do a 'controlled demolition' on the 911 narrative if he wanted to. Go pound sand you globalist twat.
haha the down voters....so you really believe a Russian ex intelligence agent who achieve the rank of lieutenant colonel is going to save you? I bet you're buying that BRICS bullshit as well. Good luck with that.
I doubt you know much about these subjects.
I'm sure he's an expert, probably read it in NYT
I suggest you don't know what you are talking about. We know the truth about 9/11 largely because of Russian intelligence and Putin .. (former FSB chief [not KGB], former Lt. Col. in the GRU [not the KGB in the USSR])
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/02/10/pravda-putin-threatens-to-releas...
And this intel certainly helped in confirming Fort Lee ..
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/23/mapping-fort-lee-the-truth-behin...
LMAO VT really? That den of vipers? That sticky honeypot? The supposed 'journal of the clandestine community'? Pretty funny how I've actually requested an FOIA on some of 'Uncle Gordy's' (if that is even his real name) supposed 'Russian intel'. You know the alleged 2003 United States Department of Energy/Sandia Labs report on the nuclear events surrounding 9/11? Funny I've never received an answer in over a year. My guess is it will never be forthcoming, because it doesn't exist, and never existed. You've already waited 14 years for the truth, maybe you can wait another 14 before you realize you've been hoaxed by all parties invloved...including your Russian saviors.
"We are poor little lambs who have lost our way...baa...baa...baa." Pappy, I'm headed back to Vella La Cava...damn near had my ass shot off...HEAVY flak and many ZEROS over the target. Last one back pays for the White Russians and the drinks too ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqh8v58ovhI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3d_yxJhmjk
The EU, Australia, Canada and USSA have Satanic leaders. F them all.
Don't buy into that dialectic crap. Putin is a crypto jew. One of his buddies is Henry Kissinger for crying out loud...look it up.
Absolute MORON! Put up or shut up ..
not saying anything...just for your reading pleasure.
http://redefininggod.com/2014/08/vladimir-rasputins-jewish-communist-and-bloodline-connections/
you don't even have to read this one, just look at the pics. rat thar with that hameatinKiss
http://redefininggod.com/2014/11/the-rockefeller-plan-for-the-brics-new-world-order-in-their-own-words/
Thank you Jesus, for the link
Willy, your onto some things but disagree with the tsarist symbolism conclusion completely. I cannot tell you why. However relationships change, interests diverge and strategy shifts. Agreed 100% with Bandon Smith's articles on NWO and east/west purposeful kubaki theatre but this has now changed fairly recently but not this last year.
Apollos walks the earth. Such mention points to old metaphysics in many cultures pointing to 2012 being the end of a solar cycle (aeon) repesented by astrology.
Christ said "I am with you until the end of this age' (aeon). The age of Pisces was 33 AD to 2o12, it is a solar cycle. Christians have the fish symbols on there cars but ask a Pastor what this means he will not know. Nor will he really know what 666 means which is geometry. Also used as the Seal of Nero and John was told this empire would die and rise again but would only live for a very short time.
John of Patmos lived 300 years before Nero. Revelations and other cultures used the sun and stars to warn us of calamity and then the Age of Aquarius, meaning bearer of the water of life.
It is no coincidence between quantum physics, AI and biomedicine we are 40-50 years from entering the 4th dimension. Literally. The "end" as in the end of our evolution not the end of our entire world or race as Christians have intepreted it the last 100 plus years or so.
Apollos involves dimensions and the Cern reactor. It is a literal being but dont expect to see a Zuess like figure with fireballs. As for Cern notice the Siva statue in front of the entrance. Siva/Apollos human names not a true name. And the irony of it all and what will happen makes me split my sides with laughter.
This final OP empire lasts less than four years. In my journal I have a short but complete story of Saturn (satan) an understanding of color coding and symbols, advanced quantum physics at Kip Thornes level, actually beyond I though I never took one day of physics.
I really thought this was all some wierd delusion until I took some thousands of electrons on my computer and created a singularity, pushed a Jewish looking word B"H which was a cosmic joke and projected it onto Chabad servers going through 4D back to 3D. The joke was WAKE UP! As in Casper the Ghost boo. I later learned that these characters actually mean God with us or something like that as Jewish users on Chabad viewed it. I guess God has a sense of humor.
I invite all intelligence agencies to figure out this one as the evidence is in my email files. Let me know if you figure it out as although I have some math understanding I really didnt fully understand the process and I am not someone that likes to believe in fairy tales or nonsense.
The temporary 9 rulers of this world understand very much though about what I am speaking but are misled. Your very close in some analysis of the OP symbol. They believe themselves reincarnate of celestial beings (aliens) repesented using Roman mythology. So literally they view themselves as gods.
They will be destroyed by Apollos and Satan will be thrown into the pit with them so that they may serve there god in a very uncool place. Just ask yourself if you really think we are alone in this multiverse and multi layer dimensions (string theory is useful to look up.)
Oh yeah, RFID chips and mark of the beast. First company that made them was called Digital Angel. Thats worth a Google too.
The reasons I was told this and by whom is irrelevant. I am nobody special and information should be free.
On the topic of aliens, look to inner space not outer space for that is where they are. The 9 is not Lord of the Rings per say. Tolkien used fiction to describe some reality, as none dare call it a conspiracy back in his time about this small group.
These people can pretend they are gods all they want. In the end all they really will be able to do is scream as they are thrown into the pit. Consider AI and intelligence just one exponent level above our own. Now imagine beings that are four levels higher and exist where time is practically irrelevant.
We are monkeys with tools but special kinds of monkeys. But in real terms these monkeys with tools that rule are nothing. But such must play there part and in the recreation it really doesn't matter what happened before, all becomes new again. Deep stuff I know. I hope it was at least entertaining. Nothing like a cosmic gag reel.
PS: Dont expect me to start some new religion. My interests are secular physics and business. How and why are hyposis and theory and that alone is what I pursue for explainations. I certainly not some chosen one that is for sure.
Hey! you got chemical agents in my uranium. No!, you got uranium in my chemical agents.....
The US played its chaos hand and effectively abdicated world leadership in the process. Sun Tzu said it best. A bad leader cannot keep good followers. Obama has proven to be unethical, immoral, nonsensical, a liar, backstabbing, divisive and corrupt. Sorry, fellow Americans. I don't see any improvement coming up in the next round either.
The Lord states it better: "If a wise man contends with a foolish man, Whether the fool rages or laughs, there is no peace. The bloodthirsty hate the blameless, But the upright seek his well-being. A fool vents all his feelings, But a wise man holds them back. If a ruler pays attention to lies, All his servants become wicked."