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Putin Accuses World Of "Using Terrorist Groups" To Destabilize Governments
If you’ve followed the incessant back-and-forth between Washington and Moscow over the course of the proxy wars raging in Ukraine and Syria, you know that the Kremlin is without equal when it comes to describing US foreign policy in a way that is both succinct and accurate.
This was on full display earlier this year when Vladimir Putin’s Security Council released a document that carried the subtle title "About The US National Security Strategy.” We’ve also seen it on a number of occasions over the past several weeks in the wake of Russia’s stepped up military role in support of the Assad regime at Latakia. For instance, last week, Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova delivered the following hilariously veracious assessment of how Washington has sought to characterize Moscow’s relationship with Damascus:
"First we were accused of providing arms to the so-called 'bloody regime that was persecuting democratic activists, now it's a new edition - we are supposedly harming the fight against terrorism. That is complete rubbish."
Yes, it probably is, but let’s not forget that Russia hasn’t exactly been forthcoming when it comes to acknowledging that, like Washington, Moscow’s interest in Syria is only related to terrorism to the extent that terrorism serves as a Western tool to destabilize the Assad regime which, you’re reminded, must remain in place if Putin intends to protect Gazprom’s iron grip over Europe’s supply of natural gas.
Of course what that suggests is that even as Russia uses ISIS as a smokescreen to justify sending troops to Syria, the Kremlin is by definition being more honest about its motives than The White House. That is, ISIS has destabilized Assad and because Russia has an interest in keeping the regime in power, Moscow actually does have a reason to eradicate Islamic State. The US, on the other hand, facilitated the destabilization of the country in the first place by playing a role in training and arming all manner of Syrian rebels, and to say that some of them might well have gone on to fight for ISIS would be a very generous assessment when it comes to describing the CIA’s involvement (a less generous assessment would be to call ISIS a “strategic CIA asset”). That means that the US will only really care about wiping out ISIS once Assad is gone and it’s time to install a puppet government that’s friendly to both Washington and Riyadh and at that point - assuming there are no other regimes in the area that the Pentagon feels like might need destabilizing - the US military will swiftly “liberate” Syria from the ISIS “scourge.”
To be sure, Russia is well aware of the game being played here and if there’s anything Vladimir Putin is not, it’s shy about calling the US out, which is precisely what he did on Tuesday at a security summit of ex-Soviet countries in Dushanbe, Tajikistan. Bloomberg has more:
Russian President Vladimir Putin said the fight against Islamic State should be the global community’s top priority in Syria, rather than changing the regime of Bashar al-Assad.
“It’s necessary to think about the political transition in that country” and Assad is willing to “involve healthy opposition forces in the administration of the state,” Putin said. “But the focus today is definitely on the need to combine forces in the fight against terrorism.”
Countries need to “put aside geopolitical ambitions” as well as “direct or indirect use of terrorist groups to achieve” goals that include regime change, in order to counter the threat of Islamic State, Putin said. “Elementary common sense responsibility for global and regional security demands the collective effort of the international community.”
The first thing to note there is that Putin has essentially called the US out for using terrorists to destabilize Assad. So for anyone just looking for the punchline, that was it. Everyone else, read on.
At this point what should be obvious is that Vladimir Putin’s intentions in Syria are anything but unclear. Russia is openly supplying the Assad regime with military aid in an effort to prevent terrorists and extremists (some of which were trained by the US and received aid from Qatar) from facilitating the strongman’s ouster. It’s that simple and frankly, the only two things Russia hasn’t made explicitly and publicly clear (because this is international diplomacy after all, which means everyone is always lying about something) are i) the role that natural gas plays in all of this, and ii) that the Kremlin will seek to prevent anyone from overthrowing Assad, so to the extent that there are any real, well-meaning “freedom fighters” in Syria, they’ll find themselves on the wrong end of Russian tank fire just the same as ISIS.
As clear as that is, the US must stick to the absurd notion that the Pentagon just can’t seem to get to the bottom of what Russia is doing and to the still more absurd idea that Russia - who seems to be the only outside party that’s actually interested in fighting ISIS as evidenced by the fact that there are Russian boots on the ground - is somehow hurting the very serious effort by the US and its allies to defeat Islamic radicals in Syria. Here’s Bloomberg again:
Russia’s intentions in Syria are unclear and it’s important for U.S. diplomats to understand them, Martin Dempsey, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters in Tallinn, Estonia, on Tuesday. While Putin’s said it wants to prevent Islamic State’s expansion, “explaining the purpose and seeing how it actually evolves on the ground are two very different things and we will be working on that,” Dempsey said.
Right, “explaining” that your “purpose” is to take your very powerful military and defeat what amounts to a large militia that’s woefully under-armed and under-trained by comparison “and seeing how it actually evolves are two very different things.” If you buy that argument, then you are buying into the patently ridiculous idea that if the US and Russia were to bring their combined military might to bear on ISIS in Syria, that somehow the outcome of that battle would be in doubt.
The Pentagon knows that notion is silly, but what it also knows is that once American troops are on the ground, there’s no not routing the other militants while you’re there, so what would happen in relatively short order, is that the opposition would be all gone and then, well, what do you do with Assad?
The much more straightforward way to go about this (unless of course you have a 9/11 and a story about WMDs buried in the desert as a cover that makes an outright, unilateral invasion possible), is to allow for the entire country to descend into chaos until one or more rebel/extremist groups finally manages to take Damascus, at which point you simply walk in with the Marines and remove them, then install any government you see fit. In the meantime, you just fly over and bomb stuff (hopefully with a coalition that includes Europe) in order to ensure that the situation remains sufficiently unstable. But now this plan won’t work, because unless we see a replay of the Soviet-Afghan war, none of Syria’s rebel groups are going to be able to rout the Russian army which means the US is stuck doing exactly what it’s doing now: trying to explain why it won’t join Russia in a coalition to eradicate ISIS while working to figure out what’s next now that the Russians are officially on the ground.
We'll close with the following from Alexander Golts, a military analyst and deputy editor of the online newspaper Yezhednevny Zhurnal who spoke to WSJ:
“The idea of this is…to show Russia as part of the alliance of civilized nations that are standing against barbarism. But that idea won’t have much of a chance, because the U.S. and the Saudis and others consider Assad the source of the problem.”
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AMEN! I cannot agree more.... couldn't have said it better! BFF!
Funny how IS seems to serve every bloody crook's interest ...
Screw the war on terror. It's a cover for the incredible Chinese gold heist taking place right now with the cooperation of the West.
http://news.sharpspixley.com/article/lawrie-williams-chinas-sge-gold-dem...
Chinese gold demand beating new mined supply.
Gold? Blah! Gemstones are best!
Much harder to assay for quality, so no overly reliable as a means of commerce.
Daimonds are more useful as cutting tools than finger ornaments.
The whole gemstone thing is a scam - do some research.
Here's a start.
http://are.berkeley.edu/~sberto/debers.pdf
the Founding Fathers certainly understood Muslim terrorism-the Marine battle hym memorializes this-"from the shores of Tripoli..." the first USS Enterprise in 1801 was sent to Tripoli to defeat the Barbary Pirates...and thus the infinite, un-ending, ever-giving, most profitable human enterprise ever "war on terrorism" was born...
interesting about tripoli being part of that song...
Gaddafi gave a similar speech on the UN floor. A few months later the tanks were rolling in.
Any rational person who stays up to date on current world affairs should be very troubled trying to determine who the 'good guys' are.
putin's definitely NOT a "good guy" but it's kind of scary how often he's at least less full of s__t than we (us) are...
A rational person goes directly to the source of truth, the word of God, finds it and understands who the enemy is...it is not difficult and it has always been 100% accurate. In the future, as nation rises against nation, there is coming a seven year period where 50% of the population is destroyed by war, famine and pestilence...can anyone see this coming?
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Most people use their personal & relative morality mixed with their emotional bias and call it logical thinking. They have no fixed point of truth and therefore they make up their own; just as we were told and warned.
A rational person does not believe in some 2000 year old fairy tales dreamed up by smelly goat and camel fucking sand dwellers.
Amen brother.
The first act of the degenerate holy Israelites, after 40 years of incessant backsliding in the camel-fuck desert, eating 'manna and honey from heaven', while being led about by a pillar of fire, was to ethnically cleanse the land of Canaan of its locals, mass-murder, enslave, steal everything, "take the land for a possession" and wipe them out completely, and to destroy their entire culture, and all sacred sites - 100%.
i.e. basically exactly the same thing ISIL does.
Well guess what?
Chimpanzee troops do precisely that to other Chimpanzee troops too.
So you can stick your sick-ass 'religion' and its vile texts into that imaginary burning bush, that never existed.
Crocodile - While I found this to be true, one should compare modern physics to metaphysics which was a base. Out of Egyptian beliefs came Algebra, from Pythagoras and his cult Triginometry. This was a foundation for modern science. Doing comparitive analysis makes the bible so much more useful as it also adds to the base on which science was built.
Christ said he was not from this world. He meant it literally. He transformed.into a being of light in front of his apostles. He discussed cyclical theory with mention of recreation. Now with science all of that isnt far fetched at all these days. And just because God exists doesnt mean he is some stuffy, judgemental asshole as Christianity portrayed for far too long.
I actually was an athiest, I love data and correlations. I enjoy a relationship with God now but would never have come to it based on fear.
I encourage people to read and compare. People that ridicule the bible have never read it cover to cover. But a Pastor holding up a bible and shouting "this is all you need" is a real turn off. I say start with prayer and see if it leads you somewhere. Besides nothing really to lose if it doesnt come to anything now is there? Besides, Christs brother James said he could demonstrate his faith by works which meant looking after people not thumping them over a head with a bible. Christ said because you looked after the least of people he considered that as doing it for him. Seems pretty simple to me.
And the "my God is right and your God is wrong" shit has got to go. Finally, Moses correctly outlined our evolution of the species in Geneis 3,000 years before Darwin. No bible author was ever hung up on evolution so Christians now look downright stupid in arguing it didnt happen. There is so much evidence it is retarded arguing evolutin didnt happen. Moses talked of genetic engineering in Genesis and using DNA to create Eve. These things now exist in our world.
Same deal as immaculate conception and artificial insemination. I could go on...
The good guys are the ones that aren't wearing uniforms or business suits.
Here's a tip (using the power of language): whether military, police, or NFL, refer to them as "costumes," not uniforms.
It's easy to spot the real bad guys.
They are all in government or banking.
The guys coordinating the wet work are just greedy dupes, those doing it are misguided idiots who swallowed whatever propaganda was fed to them.
For sure the bad guys are at Goldman
The notion of "good guys" and "bad guys" is silly. Ask anyone and they'll tell you they are the "good guys". There is only self-interest, all else is noise and semantics. There is me / us and my our enemies, whereas the enemy of my enemy sometimes is really useful...
The more I watch the geopolitical back and forth the more it's like watching a bunch of spoiled children arguing who gets to play in the sandbox. It will serve us right if we bring apocalypse on ourselves. Talk about small dick complex. Holy fuck.
The Leaders of the Free World are just little boys throwing stones....
A line from a song by the Brit group Elbow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlHGGKgzgzI
Holy Fuck indeed! It would be just theatrical if millions of peopke were not killed, and countries thousands of years old destroyed! Of course you can hardly appreciate this.... you are safe behind your computer while your country is getting drunk on its ill gotten gains! It doesn't matterr to you, does it???? Black and brown people dying.... just keep moving!
I read Mr. Putin has agreed to talk with EJ about LGBT rights in Russia. Maybe the report is false.
But...
If somehow Russia harmonizes its domestic policies and laws re: LGBT issues and legalities to align with those of the Western world, I will be forced to concede that what some ZHers have posted is right, and I was wrong, and that the illusion of East-West conflict is just that: theater.
Just the opposite - the rest should harmonize with the RF.
I find it strange that so many get bent out of shape regarding what other people do with thier genitals.
It's hardly the most important thing in life.
Don't care what they do with them, but they should give up trying to convince me that it is normal. It is not.
The natural purpose of sex is reproduction. Two guys humping each others' assholes will never lead to birth of an offspring no matter how hard they try.
So they need to shut the fuck up and get out off my face. I was pretty tolerant until they pushed it too far.
Not anymore.
Do you think EJ will change Putin's, or Russia's mind on this? Comical. It's easy PR for Putin--have a chat with the old queen.
Putin says what needed to be said.
56th.......Bitchez........
Wow, you counted?
Point well made!
DaddyO
Do you have too much time on your hands, or was that a guess?
A guess. And yes, I have too much time on my hands. Too much time on my hands. Too much time on my hands. Too much time on my haaaaaands..........
And there was I, thinking it was an either/or thing!
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The world is a large place and consists not only of USA.
well, Putin is absolutely right...
mmhmm, what excuse will the French give for cancelling air sorties ... i wonder
Give Mr. Putin a black shirt... he's a rock legend already!
Go short Humvees and white Toyotas...
The source of the problem is the heroin that the CIA controls coming out of Afghanistan that provides the U.S. Government hundreds of billions of dollars for its proxy wars and for overthrowing governments around the globe.Add in the cocaine industry they control as well and you've got a pretty big piggy bank to maintain covert activities around the globe.
So why can't we sell drugs to the rest of the world and pay off our debt. They legalized lotto to pay for schools and cigarette taxes and fines to pay for healthcare. Just look at how well they are doing with all that "extra" money. AS far as the gamblers and smokers, well, they got their own problems, right?
Vice IS the answer. Instead of taxing earnings, property and sales and shit, lets just tax CRIME and VICE, They are the only real growth economies.
Those very same words could have been uttered by BHO ... we are stuck in 1984
When he's right, he's right.
Vlad better watch what he says, All roads lead to Tel Aviv
He might get his tit in the wringer when Bibi hears what he said.
Samson option on Russia coming up
Bibi Schmibi.
Netanyahoo will be hanging from his heels at a Tel Aviv gas station in a year or two.
Putin is nuts the "world" hasn't funded terrorists!
It's the US, France, the UK and Germany that funded terrorists!
Read some history and find out how many despots we have placed in positions of power as our puppets- only for them to turn on us in 5-10 years later.
We actually have a pretty good track record of supporting the wrong guy!
What an accident! How could that have happened???
If you read history a long way back, recently and in between you will see a pattern.
Some greedy psychopath steals from the productive at the point of some kind of weapon in the hands of hired thugs.
It began with agriculture, when some people stored a surplus. Some lazy fuck and his friends used violence to steal it rather than doing an honest day's work.
Since then, government has perfected the art.
That's what has to change. Everything else is just business as usual with a different label on it.
We actually have a pretty good track record of supporting the wrong guy!
We actually have a pretty good track record for CREATING the wrong guy.
Fixed it for you
What I loved most about this article was the humour. I laughed hard at several points.
Sadly, it's no laughing matter.
In this case the truth will get you killed...
DaddyO
Which is why surrounding ground zero is necessary before announcing publically who is terrorizing who. This is a strategy if sound minds still exist.
Putin may become a 'hero' to the EU by providing a solution to the refugee problem. Namely - wipe out ISIS in various sections of Syria and Iraq so that the refugees can either go back (or never leave in the first place).
What is this, Sunday School for children?
Putin accuses them as NWO Agents and Satan Worshipers .. [1]
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/09/11/nwo-agents-and-satan-worshipers-...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/08/26/putins-greatest-challenge-to-sat...
Let's get some cojones here like Willie et al ..
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[1] Let's see here. Maj. Gen. Paul E. Vallely ..
https://youtu.be/LUYy2AJwb1s (riding shotgun with ISIS/Daesh convoy out of S. Turkey)
https://youtu.be/jE2_qmlKFVU
Commander of Lt. Col. Michael Aquino ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_E._Vallely
Aquino, founder of the Temple of Set ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Set
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2005/3233aquino_profile.html
Do we seriously need to connect anymore dots here?
VT propaganda.
Duff isn't even his name.
on the board of a UK defense company...or so he says
Word on the internet is Putin is getting ready to reveal information on 9/11. If true, this would be a warm up.
Link please. Rumors on ZH are useless and a sign that your opinion is unsupported.
It's been going around. That's why it's a rumor.
Who's taken our rights?
How have they taken them?
And WHY?
Ben Swann Truth in Media: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/11?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7tSfwkKaUo
By becoming "law makers" after cheating their way through Ivy League college.
https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=veterans+today+putin+911...
http://anonhq.com/2015-year-truth-putin-reveals-possession-911-satellite...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=077nuoyIhTg
Who's taken our rights?
How have they taken them?
And WHY?
Ben Swann Truth in Media: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/11?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7tSfwkKaUo
Strategic moving, funding from bottomless pockets, redistricting, and who knows what else. Drugging the politicians is my guess and the cops are on something and figure the military members are in a hostage situation as we speak. The terrorists are Jewish.
Oil and gas being finite and the lifeblood of an economy is something people should be glad they have access to and the cheaper the better. The problem with Russia selling gas to Europe is your damned if you do and damned if you don't. If your selling it to them they will be a victim because you have control over them. If you don't sell it to them they will be frozen victims sitting in the dark.
If I was Putin and after the frame jobs, threats and BS, if it was in anyway feasible, I would pipe everything to Asia possible and let Europe sit in the dark. He should be moving in this direction in anyway possible. Let Bechtel, Haliburton, the Sauds, the Turks and whoever supply Europe. Europe would then find out what being a victim really is.
Start
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we all know, whats being
done NOW,
will never work out.
fear + global arms industry = self-destruction of our species
And Mr. Putin would be emphatically correct on that assertion!
he forgot to mention, "and to steal their gold"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQYf8LsD1dc
"Dr. Parl Coyer began by noting that it can be easy to sympathize with the Russian Orthodox Church, which claims to preserve tradition and uphold moral values. He then described the complexities and various dimensions of the Church's involvement with the Russian state.
Orthodoxy is not viewed by Russians in the same way that religion is widely viewed in the West. For example, Dr. Coyer noted, 30 percent of respondents in Russia who self-identified as Orthodox simultaneously also identified as atheists. Dr. Coyer explained that Orthodoxy in post-Soviet Russia is a matter of culture and identity, not necessarily the belief in a Supreme Being.
In addition, the speaker described Vladimir Putin's attempts to increase the strength of the Russian Orthodox Church, with over 20,000 churches being built from 2000 onwards. He argued that this resurgence in the Church's strength added to Russian exceptionalism and nationalism. Russia has an advantage in its citizens' mindsets, in that they are more fiercely dedicated to their homeland. By contrast, a 2015 Pew Research Center poll found that Europeans overwhelmingly would not be willing to fight for their countries.
Coyer is terrible.
http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/When-All-Else-Fails-Attack-Russia-s-Religion_printer.shtml
Perhaps the Russian President intends to drive the alleged terrorists into the hearts of the countries which created them.
Significantly more effective than a wooden stake.
Is it possible this man is the greatest leader of all time? Straight-talking, straight-thinking and straight-shooting. Elton John be damned on the "straight" connotation.
How do we hire such a man to help us run our stupid swamp US?
Leaders like Putin rarely show up in a nation of ingrates.
A nation for whom their toilet paper is never soft enough.
Soft toilet paper is for overly sensitive assholes..... And it usually leads to brown and smelly fingers
Barnaby - Please. Your taking this way too far. Downvote.
Putin's a pretty smart guy .... I think he has contempt for the 9/11 conspiracy nuts .... Trump and Putin will get along .... Trump has the leadership skills and moral high ground .... the sheepish Putin so lacks !
The biggest 9/11 conspiracy nut is the lying ass US Government.
Trump has the leadership skills and moral high ground .... the sheepish Putin so lacks !
That you Larry... Silver (endorsing Donald Trump my old pal for President because the Republican and Democratic ticket is fucked) "stein"?!!!
"Monetas", obviously working for trolls.gov, eh? They pay you well to sell your soul?
Can i suggest the sensible thing?
Russia, China, Usa, U.K., Germany
Form a Military Empire Union.
Work hard to form unbeatable space based weapons...
Take over the world as your enemies are instnatly dissintigrated from orbit
Win
I dont understand why this has not happened already, there is no logical reason for the USA, RUSSIA and Europe to fight over these insignificant nations like North Korea, Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia... these nations are insignificant and should just be squelched out already so the world can make use of the resources these morons have under their feet... then simply erase them from the History Books and no one will even be the wiser.... in 30 years no one will even remember North Korea or Iran or Saudi Arabia ever existed.
Im just saying, this is clearly where all of this is heading, can we just expedite it already so that we dont have to play these stupid games anymore? because these games are getting expensive and annoying for all parties involved.
Its always an option.
Sounds a lot like my Northern Alliance Treaty Organization .... all the northern lattitude societies who share common values and mutual respect .... against the sub-human tyrants .... the responsible southern hemisphere countries could form SATO .... Southern Alliance Treaty Organization .... to contain Islam until it reforms itself !
One big reason is that people have the right to
live without outside inteference in their native lands to ignorant psychopath.
Second big reason is that psychopaths will always turn on each other eventually. It is party of your nature. As soon as you think you can defeat one of your allies, you will turn on them.
Exactly why the fuck is UK even on this list?
It's former epire that like a piece of shit is
circling the drain of history.
There is more to the proxy war in Syria than just a pipe line. This is where ZH gets it wrong. Syria, Iran and Russia are defending their sovereignty.
Putin is exactly right. Let the World help eradicate ISIS and bring peace to Syria. This has nothing to do with Assad. Is it really that difficult for the world's powers to defeat back yard soldiers and military equipment. Obviously the WEST has another agenda which we all know.
From the moment the US said it would start bombing ISIL, and when asked how long it would take to defeat them, the boldfaced liar O said it is a loooog task, should take at least 3 yrs, I KNEW that there was something fishy cooking. Not hard to imagine what the strategy was! they really take everyone for idiots... guess they are unaware that others are watching their every disgusting moves! blood sucking soulless vampires!!!
Living in EU, I can tell you that the attempt of the USA to blame Russia (and Assad) for the migration crisis in EU (and for ISIS) is failing miserably! The exact opposite is now happening in Europe. The lies of the USA Empire are collapsing very fast among the people. All that huge efforts to paint Russia as evil in the recent years and to push Europeans into war in Russia are now being destroyed by the new circumstances in EU. Even the most anti-Russian people I know are now changing their minds. The most common opinion of ordinary Europeans: "Washington is talking nonsence about Syria, why don't Americans just let Russians deal with ISIS, if Americans are so weak and incompetent and can't do it? It seems we will need to ask Russians for protection instead."
And this comes from Poland, which is supposed to be the most anti-Russian country in EU!
According to Polish media, more and more residents now secretly dream about the “polite people" (how Russian special military forces are called). Moreover, Polish media were joking about the fact that it is time for Europe to read the Constitution of the Russian Federation, and look for ways of accession of the European States into Russia. “The problem is will the Russians want to accept Poland?” – the author raises the question. „Today almost all European residents are jealous of the Russians, because they have a very strong leader, not letting down his own people under any circumstances. Besides, the Russian state model is more efficient and immune to the ongoing crisis. So many migrants are flooding our countries and nobody can give guarantees that they came with peace. And next door there is a huge state, confident that if anyone comes to them with a sword, he will have to die from it.“
An opinion of one expert: "People may still put up with occupational forces, if they get something in return - especially protection and material support. But if the empire is failing in this, people will start to revolt. This is exactly what happened for example to the Austrian-Hungarian Empire and why its subject countries began to revolt".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT4zU2iYFiI&index=12&list=PLgMaGEI-ZiiZ0...
im sure ahmad bin muhhammaaad will come along polish 9 years old girls and boys
nnnnnn =numbnuts
http://tarpley.net/
Russian Military Buildup Continues at Base Near Latakia, Syria; Lavrov Says US Deliberately Blocks Destruction of Known ISIS Concentrations; Europe Finding Strain of Syrian Refugees Intolerable, Wants to End Economic Sanctions, Re-Open Damascus Embassies, End Syrian Civil War; US Neocons and Humanitarian Bombers in Manic Fit over Chance for Peace; US and Syrian Joint Op Ordered by Obama Saved Al-Hasakah from ISIS, Killed 3,000 Terrorists in Late July; #FireAllen4ISIS
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Morning Briefing | Tuesday, September 15, 2015
The policy of phony war against ISIS pursued by the United States over the past year under the influence of ISIS Czar John Allen has now turned into a neocon’s nightmare in the form of a growing Russian military presence in Syria. International attention is now concentrated on the new Russian base, complete with airfield, in the vicinity of Latakia, not far from the Mediterranean. The world is also waiting for the very likely abortive attempt by the same neocons to prevent ISIS and the other terrorist rebel formations from being destroyed before they can be sent to Iran or indeed deployed against Russia. In reality, the new Russian role is beneficial to the US and the world, since it increases the probability that the ISIS threat to world civilization can be defeated.
Today’s New York Times offers more details about the impressive array of Russian military hardware now being marshaled in the Latakia area for use against the jihadis:
“Russia has sent some of its most modern battle tanks to a new air base in Syria in what American officials said on Monday was part of an escalating buildup that could give Moscow its most significant military foothold in the Middle East in decades. Pentagon officials said that the Russian weapons and equipment that had arrived suggested that the Kremlin’s plan is to turn the airfield south of Latakia in western Syria into a major hub that could be used to bring in military supplies for the government of President Bashar al-Assad. It might also serve as a staging area for airstrikes in support of Syrian government forces. American military specialists analyzing satellite photographs and other information said Russia had about half a dozen T-90 tanks, 15 howitzers, 35 armored personnel carriers, 200 marines and housing for as many as 1,500 personnel at the airfield near the Assad family’s ancestral home. And more is on the way as Russia appears to be attempting to increase its influence in Syria amid the civil strife there, the officials said…. At least 15 giant Russian Condor transport planes have in the past week used an air corridor over Iraq and Iran to ferry military equipment and personnel to the base…. The buildup also dramatizes Russia’s call to fight the Islamic State with a new coalition that would include Iran and the Syrian government.”[i]
if they fix syria usa will come up with somehing new
tajikistan kyrgistan uzbekistan turkmenistan georgia armenia azerbaijan
northkorea china indonesia malaysia
all african countries
hey! no one can point out cambodia on the map, lets start a new usless war there by tomorrow
all turkic countries of nomadic origin, and if you sratch the skin of any russia you will find mogul blood...?
OMG
How much do you think Murdock paid for those dozen words?
................................................................................................. He wasn't being sarcastic, was he?oh no he didn't
Excellent analysis.
Now Putin is “shifting fronts” from Ukraine to Syria, knowing that the current US-Adminstration can hardly handle one crisis at a given time.
Putin makes sense when he urged cooperative international community efforts with Assad’s government, Kurdish militias, and moderate internal opposition elements against a common terrorist enemy: “ Elementary common sense and responsibility for global and regional security require concerted efforts of the international community against this threat,” he stressed. However there is no common sense in the West anymore.
LoL:"a less generous assessment would be to call ISIS a “strategic CIA asset” Excactly right. Putin, otherwise really a smart guy, may inadvertly drive this CIA asset right over the wide open EU borders. I wonder who will take and feed the 500 Million EU-refugees then?
I have great respect for Putin, Assad, Russia, Syria, NovoRussia (DPR/LPR), Zakarchenko and the other people standing up to the ZATO/Zstate Department tyranny.
America is a joke and The Pentagram and US Military are a bunch of cornholer corrupt idiots. No American in their right mind should allow their kid to joint the Soros-US Military.
Putin: I will now state something obvious that is widely known as fact.
US traitorous oligarch crybabies: Nuh Uhhhhhhhhh!
So why don'g the democratic gay and lesbian and transgender US forces fight Putin for a loss of identitiy instead of worshiping they're Obamas..
Your daily ZH one big Pootin nut hug. Let's have a hand for the Web Brigades!
4 weeks 4 days
I feel sorry for you twaggots that think length of membership at this insane asylum means something.
Now jog off, mums warmed your sphagettios.
And now there's a Mad Max train barrier to supplement a growing shoot-to-kill zone in the Hungarian Shitback. When will Mister Putin come right out and call it another World War? This is becoming obscenely like Appeasement.
Putin
Obama
Thats sure to get a record "up arrows"
The latest Rostislav Ishchenko analysis, please?
GGGgggeeezzzuuusss H C
Mission Creep much US ?
What a fooked up country the USA has become. To think that how many Americans are pulling & rooting for Putin shows you how far off the reservation this has become...
Bring in more Clowns !
Hah! Take the clowns out of our governments and send them back to Sizrael and we willl get along just fine. This short truly miraculous life on the Blue Planet has been sidetracked by greedy envious lot over and over again - A characterless tribe who have nothing better to do than steal, as if stealing is easier than making an honest living. "I stole it, it is mine!" mentality is about to come to an end.
The reservation Chiefs were the first ones to leave. When they traded their eagle feather bonnets to the Zionist banksters, handed over the reservations territory, squaws and stocks of bows and arrows it was no wonder that the everyday working indian realized they had more in common with the tribes labeled "enemy" than they did with their own leaders.
I remember when Obama was still running for president many right wingers were stating that he really hates
the US and wants to destroy it from within.
If that indeed was his plan, then he is succeeding.
Large part of American population is now rooting for an opposing nation and respect and admire its leader.
The American and allied countries economies are in the toilet and flood of immigrants that do not share the population's values is changing the demographics.
Unless people wake up and quickly Europe and US are toast.
At least US has the benefit of some of these immigrants coming from Asia (where hard work and education are highly valued and the people are intelligent).
'the USSA provided Pakistan with the 'Nuclear Bomb' knowhow ( and just about everything else {[ money/materials/sensitive trigger mechanism etc., etc)/ advance machinery logistics untracable???} from 1986-98?' why? they needed pakistan on their side in order to defeat the communist russian government in afghanistan. the Russo-Afghan War [1979 - 1989] bankrupted the communist soviets when the USSR officially dissolved in dec/1991 [really 1992!]
now the ussa could go after the oil/gas rich satellites in central asia (tukmenistan, Khazakstan, etel.), post-war free sovereign countries.
pakistan always wanted isolation and afghanistan was a perfect a buffer? that is,... they wanted afghanistan to keep the iranians, russians, and indians out of islamabad. they hate the indians and would go into mad`'nuclear war over a small slice of kashmir that actually was there's since the raj left british india in 1947!
pakistan is rightfully correct about india's encroachment. Think about when they lost half of their territory in the third pak-indo war of 1971 when east pakistan gained its independence from pak's because of the war. now called bangladesh.
Ref: how tyme flies in the face of panic... 'Coming soon: Russian Su-35s to Pakistan and American F-35s to India'
http://atimes.com/2015/09/coming-soon-russian-su-35s-to-pakistan-and-american-f-35s-to-india/
now why would russia sell to pakistan other than the fact that all the jihadist are trained in pakistan's nwft province, and used as islamist terrorist by the taliban's , kashmir guerrilla's facilliated by pak's isi and army.
and carter's brzezinski gave em the nukes along with reagan/ bush and clinton whom ignored them for his first six years,... and, in all reality kept the cia on a short -leash with an asshole tenet cia director. think about cheney, ollie 'the fucking creep' north, that almost got reagan impeached [ a second tyme?] and-contra! which basically muzzled reagan's foreign policy... and, by his own people whom went over his head! so they say??? for protecting the acting senile bs artist!
lastly, i would like to quote this epilogue "Blow the Hell out of Everybody" (Note: fighting a war in afghanistan and pakistan is a dangerous proposition because of the Spin-Ghar/ Hindu Kush that has mountains and weather so fucking crazy unnavigatable in winter, and has in reality about 230 days of shiity weather... is no-man's land for any and all adversaries!
QUOTE: what might be called a rehearsal took place less than three months after the ballots of the frontier referendum had been counted. in october 1947, several motorized pathan rolled out of peshawar and headed east for the fabled vale of kashmir. with its predominantly muslim population, the kashmir province had been slated to join pakistan, but its brahmin maharaja had wheeled and dealed delays until until the frontier tribesmen simply decided to seize the place. nothing stood between them and kashmir's capital, srinagar, except for some hindu bazaars, which of course had to be looted and burned, and a catholic mission filled with nuns ripe for raping. these diversions lasted only a day or so, but that was long enough for the indian army to fly a sikh rifle company to srinagar's airstrip--- the key to the occupation of of kashmir. the sikhs managed to hold the position until the arrival of strong infantry and armored units that presently hammered the lashkars to a safe distance from the capital. this was followed by two years of alternate negotiating and fighting, which came to an end in 1949, when a cease-fire agreement gave most of kashmir to india. the whole province would belong to pakistan today, had not the pathans stopped for their picnic." end quote pg.369 'the khyber' [british india's north west frontier and the story of an imperial migraine]
must reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Barlow HERO!!!
jmo
basically the raj fucked the muslims for hindu's...they, the pak's lost all their ancestrial land because of mr dynasty's durrani--- durand linescaping [note name similatity ?] robbery. fucking british scum!!!
'the alliance of civilized nations'? Russia is the only civilized nation there.
Now that's a S-T-R-E-T-C-H!
Awe, Osama Bin Ladens brother had his contractor license pulled by Saudi for a crane accident. I am sure it is just temporary.
http://www.rt.com/news/315471-saudi-crane-mecca-binladin/
To bad he didn't say it 14yrs ago.
Hey kids - let's play Spot the ISIS: UiSiSA, jelly donut, IsIsrael, cup-cake, Britisish
(Hint: Not something you'd eat;)
Speaking of theater, Regal Cinemas has this new bag check policy. I finally got a reason to take my wife to the movies.
The only question that remains is would you be checking a purse or a woman? Couldn't help myself it slipped right off my keyboard :)
Putin knows exactly the kind of havoc Bolsheik jews can cause.
C'mon, get a grip!
If it weren't for Bolshevik Ashkenazis we wouldn't have the kibbutz, without which there would've been no template for such amazing historical events as Jonestown, Marshall Applewhite, or Axl Rose.
What would our society be? Where do we go now, indeed?
Tylersl, ZH, I'm just going challenge you to post these articles. Full attributions please ..
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/09/14/neo-time-to-blame-the-right-peop...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/09/15/putin-nails-the-west-for-using-t...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/09/15/putin-is-scaring-the-heck-out-of...
In terms we ALL understand here, enough fucking around with AP, Getty, Ynet, Reuters, WSJ, Bloomberg, Daily Beast, Newsweek, et al ..... as sources ..
Ball's in your court ..
<sarc> Thank goodness the USSA would not stoop so low as to use terrorist groups to destabilize nations. </sarc>
........and the earth is round.
Make sure to tune in to tomorrow's episode of Amazing Tales of Blatantly Obvious Shit
why is this bitch of a site attempting to give me viruses? keeps happening.
Invest in a malware program. harry.
Da Juice is out to getcha.
Dat's why.
I don't get any, or maybe I am filled with crabs and don't know it...
Your probably running Windows... If so, that's the first virus you need to eliminate. Linux or Macs. No problems.
Someone is actually running Windooze??
Get Linux Mint...
...Ubuntu was good until that stupid Unity desktop...as if influenced by Microsoft.
Vlad nobody is listening.
They are all under a spell, its the iphone spell, and the entertainment spell which is all mind control.
sad but true.
I am all for Vlad if he can throttle Isis
But as a "FEW" have pointed out.
Russia blaming the US for supporting ISIS
Is like the kettle calling the pot black
Most you guys probably aren't old enough to remember.
The terror list supported by the Roooskies is long and world wide
Millions have been killed by them trying to overthrow other governments thru terrorism
Che Guevera, just one of their numerous poster boy Commie terrorist.
Ya'll are like the short memory fools that keep electing the same type of lying clowns.
Just a small corrections. That was Soviet Union. Not Russia.
Russia has been bending over to become partners with western world.
Only they were shown that to be a partner you have to slave out your national interest.
Russia today is shocked and have started preparing to defend its interest.
Talk to any Russian on street, they all love western world. Just as much as the Ukrainians. But Russians seem not to be as stupid as Ukrainians.
the russians i encounter aren't exactly thrilled about the western world...
it's always amusing how well the trolls know Soviet history and are so well informed about everything STalin did but are totally ignorant of USA and European history. How many millions did the Euroepan kill and maim in Africa, North, Central and South America, Australia and Asia combined? Speak about that huh? Can you give me a few facts abotu how many million of Native Amercans (Indians) were killed JUST in North America?
I believe there's a general acceptance by informed people without agendas that Russia today is not the Soviet Union.
I see no evidence that Putin is trying to re-create the USSR. Rather he wanted Russia to become a member of the global economy but there are a lot of people in Washington/Westminster and elsewhere who are locked into an old paradigm.
meh, knee jerk reaction: Fuck off. However the USofA is exactly what he says. So, who gives a shit? (other than all the dead people and the families left behind and all that shit). E.H.M - Nuff Said.
the question was asked what has Putin been doing for the last 30 yrs., the same as china.
#1 still fighting ww11, building up military, there may have been a cease- fire, and winners declared, may 8th 1945, but us, nato built-up military, and air- bases were already under construction in in eastern Europe, bordering Russia may 9the 1945, military, and naval bases in the pacific off china eastern shores.
#2 most importantly resisting Rothschild's, ngo, gs, and NWO.
probably 120 other nations were sucked into ww111 70 yrs. ago, rothchilds sent in their financial- warfare ngo gs, and crooked politicians sold their countries out for the 1% life, and possibly a chair at the NWO table.
just like markets, rothchilds," BIS" make billions if they go up, down, or sideways, billions made preparing for war, during the war, and after the war.
Putin warned months ago, he wasn't going to participate in the NWO bs.
Russia Syria, and iran are allies, just as us, and the eu..
could be the best thing to happen to Greece, rent a few piers to Russia, and china.
Night Night!
From TheDailySheeple: "If you want to start a to war, the unwashed masses must be convinced to send their brothers, sons and fathers to die on the front lines. The specter of an external enemy must be etched into their collective mind through trauma, exaggeration and repetition. History must be whitewashed, twisted and cherry picked down to a politicized nursery rhyme. At no point should the real motives or consequences of such an endeavor be discussed."
The propagandering is well underway.....but is it working?
What a bunch of bullshit.....
Even the comments are a joke.....
Please go somewhere else you russian trolls..............
Where is the investing/trading ideas in this entire bunch of bullshit???????
Oh well you didn't say I had to give you any "ideas" did you? Anti-American "ideas" are a plenty though so that should account for something should it not? ha ha OOO I kill me! So I'm a little bit BITTER-so what! :p
30% of gas market is not an "iron grip on the market" Cut the BS, ZH. Either speak the truth or dont speak at all.
Ok Ok so maybe it's a "TIN GRIP" but a grip nonetheless-don't be so critically picky! ha ha Btw-just how would you refer to the 30% of Gas Market in Europe then A-HOY-THERE? :)
Look. Don't know how many times I have to say this or how many different ways, BUT WW3 is inevitable. All that matters is how well you read the signs of and how well you prepare for its arrival.
Washington: Remove Assad and Syria is gonna be free and democratic. STOP. Sacrifice 3 virgins and rain comes to Kalifornia. STOP.
Eventually it is all about who is going to control Eurasia which forms a keystone area in the sphere that extents from Western Europe to Vladivostok. That sphere encompasses nearly 3 billion people plus its energy and mineral sources and its markets. China's silkroad is part of that sphere and it has been cut at Palmyra by IS.