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The Unstoppable Trump Juggernaut: How The GOP Establishment Hopes To Crush The Donald's Presidential Run
Over the past three months the scariest chart for the GOP establishment has only gotten scarier. We refer, of course, to the one below which compiles all the latest opinion polls on the Republican national primary and specifically the meteoric rise of its frontrunner: Donald Trump.
And while initial denial by virtually everyone, especially the so-called pundits none of whom anticipated Trump's unprecedented surge in the polls, turned slowly into much publicized anger, now comes the bargaining phase, and as Bloomberg political commentator Mark Halperin who admits spending "about 60 percent of my waking hours talking about Donald Trump" explores, the panicked GOP establishment is now scrambling to find ways to "stop" the Trump Juggernaut.
According to him, the core GOP and especially his republicans contenders, may attack Trump through four possible frames:
- Trump can’t be trusted because he is an egomaniac with a bad character.
- Trump is a liberal and unprincipled.
- Trump is not close to being fit to be a serious president or commander-in-chief.
- Trump is a politician, not a businessman/outsider.
On the strategy of Trump's GOP rivals:
"There is by no means consensus on which of these frames will work or how to flesh them out. One school of thought, according to my reporting, is to go with an amalgamation of 'deals and females,' on the theory that those are Trump's twin vices and the opposition could use those issues to at least pry away some parts of his current coalition and bring his poll numbers down closer to the pack. The hope is that should Trump's numbers go lower, he will get rattled, his aura of invincibility will dissipate, and his mojo will be disrupted."
On a potential timetable:
"... Barring some major unforeseen development, most Republican strategists now are resigned to deferring a climactic attempt to kill Trump until the field winnows down next spring. This scenario, of course, ignores the prospect that Trump could rack up so many victories in the meantime that his momentum would be difficult, or impossible, to stop."
On Trump’s advantage:
"In the modern era, the Republican nomination has been won by the combatant who is best at playing a game of kill-or-be-killed. In the end, becoming the standard bearer has not been about the daily polls, the staff hires, the policy speeches, the fundraising, the cattle calls, the promised agenda. It’s been about having the skill and confidence to stamp out anyone who threatens you.
However, none of this may apply: as Bloomberg observes, "with Trump, the rules have changed. So far, he has proven to be largely immune from attack, and also a master killer himself, with a unique political arsenal. With a few months to go before voters vote, Trump has squashed the poll numbers and personas of a host of his rivals, without resorting to significant traditional opposition research, paid media, or surrogates. He simply uses Instagram, Twitter, and his virtually unlimited access to the news media to unsheathe his sharp tongue, cutthroat sensibility, and unerring perverse humor. And Trump can shift to kill mode without strain or hesitation.
In fact, if anything Trump is rapidly schooling everyone, the media, his opponents, and the punditry, how presidential elections in the New Normal should be run:
When media outlets and pundits exclaim that he’s gone too far, Trump is never sorry, never accepts any blame. Unlike other candidates caught in the Internet glare of controversy, Trump doesn’t do the deer-in-the-headlight cringe, nor does he apologize. When asked about his favorite Bible verses or challenged on his remarks about debate moderator Megyn Kelly and rival candidate Carly Fiorina, Trump hasn’t flinched, even when giving answers that some listeners find incredible. When he becomes aware he has stepped over the line (sometimes thanks to the counsel of his daughter, Ivanka), he knows how to minimize the damage by bluffing his way out the other side. And his capacity to generate news coverage and controversy gives him an unprecedented ability to change the subject and turn the page if he missteps.
As a result, "barring some major unforeseen development, most Republican strategists now are resigned to deferring a climactic attempt to kill Trump until the field winnows down next spring. This scenario, of course, ignores the prospect that Trump could rack up so many victories in the meantime that his momentum would be difficult, or impossible, to stop. But Trump’s adversaries are hoping that his power will wane when the entertainment portion of the contest ends and voters are ready to pick a president."
Bloomberg's conclusion:
Can Trump be killed? The history of past nomination fights suggest he can be. The untraditional front-runners of the summer silly season have always swiftly fallen to the back of the pack—or out of the race altogether—in the fall. But we are in uncharted territory now, with a canny celebrity front-runner who combines an unprecedented and nearly unlimited access to both social and traditional media with a completely sui generis gift for attack and counterpunch politics. The three-month whirlwind since he entered the race demonstrates that of all Trump’s extraordinary talents, master of kill-or-be-killed might be his most decisive—and the single most important factor in determining whom the Republican Party nominates for president next year.
Yet all attempts to deconstruct the Trump campaign, and to reverse engineer his success will likely fail if, in the end, he manages to sustain his image not so much as that of a vote for "Trump", but as one against a system which most Americans have by now realized is rotten to the core thanks to its "crony capitalist" puppet strings controlled by vast, faceless corporations and cronyism working on behalf not of Main Street but of Wall Street year after year and election after election.
What is most amazing is that the "expert" punditry still has not realized that a vote for Trump is not a "vote for Trump" but a vote of protest against the broken system.
If anyone wants to beat Trump in his own game, they will have to show and prove to the voters of America, that the existing system not only still works, but is worth saving in its current broken form.
This is the biggest challenge to everyone - on the right, on the left and in the middle - even if nobody wants to admit it.
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Poll numbers didn't save JFK...
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/miss-alabama-slams-trump-129072235416.html
"Miss Amerika slams Trump"
Well, I'd slam Miss Amerika.
pods
Derailing the Trump train? Ain't fucking happening folks.
I was at the rally last night in Dallas and he filled that arena. I'd post pictures but I cannot.
First person I met? A very remorseful two time Obama voter who said she had enough of liberalism (mid 20's), and who was irritated at how the Sander's campaign ripped her off.
The second, nice black couple who were polite, VERY dark skinned and actually charming. First generation African immigrants.
That crowd was FIRED UP!! And full of well to do folks and first time attendees. Hell that was my first politcal rally ever.
If he can do that 14 months before the election? He is going to steamroll everything in his way.
Oh and his platform elements?
Deport all illegals
Anchor baby modification to the law
Build a big damn wall on the border
And Mexico pays for it (or they kiss their trade surplus goodbye)
Veterans get taken care of in the benefits line.
Repeal Obamacare
Beef up the military.
... and SilverRhino, looking after Israel. Oooh can't wait for the squeeling of the anti-sems, bigots and libs infesting this site.
It's not just the establishment that's attacking him. Rand Paul has been as well, and for good reason. Check out this video: http://popularliberty.com/8339/donald-trump-suppressed-documentary-25-ye...
The Dems are myopically assuming the sheep will come to their senses and Trump will implode.
The GOPs are scheming to marginalize Trump in favor of a malleable candidate.
I wonder if Trump will have the opportunity to sue the GOPs for tarnishing his brand.
I'm sorry to break it to ZHers, but Trump is simply NOT a credible candidate. He has absolutely ZERO experience in politics. His stance on immigration is categorically racist and no decent person in their right mind would endorse his views on the border. He's also incredibly irresponsible with money and many of his 'businesses' have gone completely bankrupt. His candidacy is a JOKE. As far as I'm concerned, the only logical choice is Bernie Sanders.
Fuck...
Now I have to vote for the guy..
Trump is a Zionist lap dog. He supports the same ideology that brought down the twin towers and WT7. If anything, his freakshow is designed to throw the election to the democrats. He is ahead in the polls due to his "change", but he's a con, just like Obama.
With Bush and Clinton taking their lumps, financial executives face populist critics in both parties.
Read this and understand our crony capitalist system better . . .
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/donald-trump-2016-wall-street-reac...
“ He has absolutely ZERO experience in politics. His stance on immigration is categorically racist and no decent person in their right mind would endorse his views on the border. He's also incredibly irresponsible with money and many of his 'businesses' have gone completely bankrupt. His candidacy is a JOKE.”
And this differs from the clown in the dark house for the last seven years how?
Does voting “present” for a few years give you political experience and how many billions of taxpayer dollars went down the drain with Solyndra and a dozen other “green energy” tax guaranteed projects?
I could go on.
(..and I am for moats full of Piranha, mine fields, agile weaponized autonomous robotic vehicles and rabid attack dogs on the border.)
Not nearly as many billions as gets wasted on an entirely incompetent military that regularly violates international law and is the cause of a large amount of the problems that are coming home to roost.
Donald Trump is simply a distraction decoy. Ron Paul's message of Liberty and ending the Fed was completely censored by all media. Ron Paul was the real deal and Liberty is a juggernaut idea, not Trump.
Unfortunately, his son is doing all he can to douse the banner of liberty into the slime of Republican Party loyalism.
Benito Trumpolini.
Ron Paul retired from Politics, or maybe you didn't ge the Memo. Voted for him twice, but he lacks the Fire & Brimstone needed to tear this house down.
I whole heartily agree with you. But like I have come to believe that those ideas are not going to win this round in the voting both. People aren't hungry enough for it yet and that truly makes me sad. I believe that we do need a strong leader in this nation not another Globalist sellout pushing inter-dependency (weakening our sovereignty). Rand is pretty much done this go around, I will continue to donate to him as I believe its good to have a voice to at the least inject some sanity and reason into the domestic/foreign police state policies that our Federal/State Gov't love to cram down our throats as well as the worlds. I will simply not vote for Bush, I will support Trump. Basically I am pissed to that point.
Jeb! has the party leaders in his pocket. A rule change here and a rule change there and .......
WOWEE ZOWEE JEB! HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH DELEGATES.
What are you going to do? Vote for Hillary?
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Barrett-M-BMG-Sniper-System/1404006.uts
Or a strategy I prefer to think of as "one less puppet"...
The country needs another career political turd milk toast bush or a lying, cheating corrupt cunt-on with her lying cheating sexual predator spouse who likes to hand out with pedophiles as much as it needs another term with the lying cheating illegal indonesian kenyan alien muslim fudgepacker...
Hmm, so you keep saying...
Do what more need to do, sit it out or vote 3rd party. Lesser of two evils bullshit NOT CUTTING IT ANYMORE. BESIDES IF hitlery wins, or Jeb wins when the entire dog pile goes into the crapper, not being part of the corruption is the best we can do. Voting for lesser of two evils, never works. We end up in the same mess under different brand.
You've tot that right.
I've heard of more shady things at Republican convention than I can count.
ALways for the good of the Party, of course.
Logged in to upvote you. Wake me up when a political candidate campaigns on a platform of ending central banking and fiat currencies and restoring honest money. This is the heart and soul of the shitshow. Everything else is a distraction. Trump is another Obama. It's really sad to see so many folks completely fooled by this chump and the media hullabaloo. It's a dog and pony show folks, try and think of why he is getting so much media attention and who owns the media. Any real threat to the shitshow is either completely ignored or eliminated.
We're being subjected to a seemingly endless series of blatently obvious false flags events yet there is zero discussion or acknowledgement by anyone in government, media, academia or corporate america. We're being played and lied to. Constantly. Orwell, Rand, and Huxley didn't write fiction, they knew of the very same shitshow that is now in a much more advanced state. Ever wonder why bankers have the sole right to create money from nothing and charge the world 'interest' on it? They've bought the world's resources and assets and put pathetic puppets and whores in the power positions of all the institutions on the planet that they control with completely fake money. If you're ok with that then Trump's is real hope and change, keep watching your TV, take your meds, feel not think, and above all listen to and obey 'authority".
Ding ding we have a winner. Zero discussion of CB crime, get rid of that and all the rest of the problems melt away. Just like zero discussion of the root cause of the "refugee crisis", um do you think smashing the sh*t out of their countries would make millions flee? Just because they were out of sight/mind in refugee camps in Turkey and Jordan until now, until they got fed up and moved north. And sorry, Repubs, because of the stupid electoral college the US has, the Dems win in a walk, they get 258 out of 270 EC votes they need just by getting out of bed. Bernie peaking too early, love his work but a crotchety old man with a NorthEast accent won't close the deal. Hitlery in a walk after she gets through all this fuffle about her various illegal activities, then WW III.
Trump is another Obama. It's really sad to see so many folks completely fooled by this chump and the media hullabaloo. It's a dog and pony show folks, try and think of why he is getting so much media attention and who owns the media. Any real threat to the shitshow is either completely ignored or eliminated.
+1
I've said this several times, but people seem to have remarkably short memories. In 2008, who was the "anti-candidate"? It was Obama. He was able to say all the "right" things because he was an "outsider". Look how that's turned out.
How did Obama get in? Because of the way the media portrayed him (promoted him). How can anyone trust anyone the media tells them about? Ask people if the media are liars and they will agree, "yes, they're liars!" But when they see this face on the media saying "I'll fix it!", they fall for it again?!?!
I just don't understand. How stupid are we, people?
Well, Okboss!
Rand never stood a chance, though I'd have gladly voted for him and worked for him.
But assuming you are right, that Donald is not a vehicle for liberty, where does that put us? There's no vehicle, so you hijack the one you can find. Freedom minded people will be the ones who put Trump in the white house if he wins, so he will owe them, and his brand's success will largely depend on his success as president and their patronage.
A taste of a few wins for the country and the tide may turn for liberty. Presently we have nothing going.
Can't fault you on anything you said. The way I see it is that he is exactly what America deserves. The chance to save this country is long past. Now I just want to sit back and laugh my ass off.
While laughing get some store-able food, ammo and a good water filter.
Most Americans have no experience in Politics yet many feel they could be a better President than the sitting one, ifyou want to be the President you have to get people to vote for you, it has long been perpetuated that 'Anyman' can be President, if the people vote for him.
I am cynical enough to think that if he gets elected it is because 'They' want him, perhaps he was their man from the begining!
Thje jew media hates him the democraps hate him, and the Republicans hate him.....He sounds like my guy based on that alone. He will get JFK'd though if he's not Socialist Jew Federal Reserve bank approved....
The Jewmedia loves him. He has singlehandedly brought interest back to the cesspool that are called elections.
That means the Jewmedia can sell ads for more because of more interest in watching the masturbatory shows about politics again.
pods
Yep,
When I saw Feherty was going to interview him for a segement, I knew the fix was in.
Nicely put.
Elections are just another branch of the "entertainment machine" that is the modern US state. People are endlessly distracted and entertained, and advertised to simultaneously.
We really think the people who we learn about concurrent with our daily 100s of repetitions to buy useless crap we don't need are not going to be exactly that same crap we don't need? They are a product, just like all the others.
Hint: the advertising on TV doesn't end after 90 seconds. It just changes form.
Not JFK'd -- Kennedy got it after being elected. I think you mean Huey Longed.
Wall Street's latest panic: Trump could win
With Bush and Clinton taking their lumps, financial executives face populist critics in both parties.
Read this and understand our crony capitalist system better . . .
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/donald-trump-2016-wall-street-reaction-213614
Wow. From that article, this great insight on who really runs things, voting being just a distraction (which it actually is; a 2014 Princeton University study conclusively proved that):
"The CEO of one large Wall Street firm, who declined to be identified by name criticizing the GOP front-runner, said the assumption in the financial industry remains that something will eventually knock Trump off and send voters toward a more establishment candidate. But that assumption is no longer held with strong conviction. "I don't know anyone who is a Donald Trump supporter. I don’t know anyone who knows anyone who is a Donald Trump supporter. They are like this huge mystery group,” the CEO said."
Let me define "this huge mystery group" for him - anyone other than you (the top 0.1%) and, perhaps, the next 4.9%.
If Trump has a remote chance at the prize he's got to look like a lap dog. If he doesn't, no chance at all. The rest of the field are owned and are lap dogs and will continue to be lap dogs. At least with Trump there's a chance.
Bullshit. I often wonder what Trump's real estate portfolio would look like if The Fed had not bought all that bogus MBS paper.
Yet another stupid fuck.
No, since his last big bankrupcty he's stopped owning most of the real estate. Now he just charges them to use his name. Shrewd blowhard? Yes. Stupid fuck? Hardly.
Again, complete bullshit. FYI- I was not referring to trump, go ahead and vote for him, it will only prove my hypothesis.
This fuck tard is off his meds again. He's getting all upset because his dream of eating out billary might not come true.
Look like a lap Dog? Nah! he is popular because he dosen't look like a lap dog, people are hoping he is really a Bulldog who will bring those pointy chins on TV back to earth! Go Donald go, go Donald go, show your teeth Donald, roar like a Lion
You're right SamAdams. This is a Deep State master chess move to put Hillary in power.
I was speaking with a Hillary supporter recently who was crowing about how "it was time for the US to have its first female President." I responded: "Hillary Clinton will indeed be the first female President of the United States. She will also be the last President, male or female, of the United States."
He was left speechless.
Did "he" still have his testicles? Was "he" going through a "transition". I have to ask because any man and I use that term loosely that says "it was time for the US to have its first female President." needs to be questioned on their sanity as well as man hood. There is nothing wrong with a female president but you don't have to have one just for the sake of it being time for it...
He is Jewish. Which leads me to the second thing I said that left him speechless: "Among Jews, the women are the men and the men are the women."
Batt #44
"He supports the same ideology that brought down the twin towers and WT7. If anything, his freakshow is designed to throw the election to the democrats. He is ahead in the polls due to his "change", but he's a con, just like Obama."
Do you have a source we can see that substantiates your statements?
Bernie Sanders? LOL! I'm writing in Ralph Nadar.
If we only had safety controls on knives, scissors, and sharp pencils...
Yes, and Nader wolud have provided a safety control on our military which thru its misuse has caused havoc, destruction, and banker profits throughout the world.
Yeah, and do tell me what good professional politicians have done for America in the last 20 years?
They are all just disposable liars, FUCK EM ALL!
Win or fail at least Trump is entertaining.
Yeah, the Dems have my vote. Higher taxes, bigger government an dmore spending.
What's not to like?
Boarder enforcement and immigration law enforcement are not Racist. The act of not enforcing them is TREASONOUS. By the way I am in my right mind. I do question if you are.
how can boarder enforcement be racist? The whole thing started in America when the fucking Britz decided that every one of their soldiers could b a boarder in a Boston household (this was before Boston went moonbat, I must remember to all y'all). How can this be racist? Britz barging into the homes of Brit colonists (no Irish need apply at this point). And hangin' out. No nintendo. But pretty little colonial galz, of English stock.
Then, well, things got ugly. There was a "riot", not what we think today, more or less a protest. And 'someone' fired a musket. And there was a coupla' men down. We were taught that Crispy Atticus got shot along with some Irish dude named Carr. Turns out, u shoot a slave, why, that's a crime against PROPERTY!!! (never mind a life)
And, correctly so, comes in the "you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts" -- Yes, the Prig John Adams (I admire him in here immensely).
He gets the Brit soldiers off (so to speak) and has moral standing for other situations.
One hopes that this clears up certain misleading thoughts ;-)
- Ned
dats gotsta hoit...
"He has absolutely ZERO experience in politics."
I think a person in his position with his constant exposure in the media even prior to this campaign has the required skills to play that game. Not that I vote any more anyway. Like Carlin said, waste of time.
"He has absolutely ZERO experience in politics."
What an absolutely inane and moronic statement.... look where the country is now given what all the career corrupt elected political turds who have "experience in politics" have done.... sand paper their skins off, bury them in salt, drop them off in middle of Iran's desert with a quart of Pennzoil....
If you follow the Constitution, no experience is required.
Well, okay. If you say so fuckwad. Guess I'll just vote for Hillary or Bush because more of the same is just what we need.
"I'm sorry to break it to ZHers, but Trump is simply NOT a credible candidate."
As long as he is truly in it to win it, Donald Trump is absolutely a credible candidate.
Whoever is your candidate of choice in the next election, I urge each and every one of you ZHers to vote.
Study the issues carefully and vote for whom you think would make the best President of our great country.
The 2016 election will be a watershed event; the next President will decide many issues of great importance for our country. The office of President is the most important in the world. It would be a shame to see you squander your vote so be sure to study the candidates and the issues and cast your decisive vote.
/s ?
dang, dawg, kin b real and votin' won't hurt 2 bad
We are looking for a 'leader' to solve our problems? The problems we face come from us. More valuable at this point to devote the energy to finding alternative modes of organizing our lives and social circumstances than it is to try to fix a thoroughly corrupted central power sink. i.e. learn ourselves to live differently, rather than look to a leader to solve that problem for us. Take control back, don't look for a new person to give it to.
>> His stance on immigration is categorically racist<<
The current policy of making whites a minority in our country isn't racist? We love diversity, multiculturalism, the living Constitution, and the propositional nation? Horse feathers. It's all about destroying the power of whites.
Next question.
I just love how MDB tells us the exact opposite of what we should do... thanks MDB!!!
I think that Gartman, after he has his lotion+bubble bath comes out totally refreshed and wishes to relax with a sprinkling of MDB posts, ever so subtle and soothing to the wracked mind and sinews.
Ahhhhh,
- Ned
A wracked mind is a terrible thing to waste! :>D
MDB I believe this is the FIRST time I've ever agreed with anything you've posted. Hell has indeed frozen over.
Those last two paragraphs are the key take away here, for me anyway. Is this system, in it's present form, actually worth saving? I say no, it's not. First of all, I don't even think it's possible to save. But even if you convinced me it was possible, I don't think it's worth the effort. THAT is truly the problem for the left, right, center. The trouble with the GOPers is that they will never will another election without the Ron Paul supporters, most of whom aren't showing up for trump or any of the other ones. Lefties have the same problem. Disillusionment with hope and change, 8 years of the great black hope turned into 8 more years of fascism. Personally , I think this is a good thing. People losing faith on government benefits all who value freedom. The more people who say 'fuck this shit' the better. That's my take on it anyway , none of these people are worth getting excited about, rand paul is a sellout, so it's pointless arguing over which one of these truly terrible candidates is the least bad and why we should support that person.
Regardless of platform or policies, Trump is stripping away the political correct clothing of all other politicians. Maybe we will get a chance to see what they REALLY stand for. The media has been instrumental in the progressives use of PC to silence their opposition while NEVER needing to provide a rebuttal to policy debates. All opposition is simply a;
hater
racist
homophobe
misogynist
polluter
or simply a denier.
Trump is calling them out and they are clueless as to how to respond, given their PC attacks seem to have fallen on deaf ears. Their only tact left is to offer their microphone of destruction to other republicans who otherwise have had little media exposure thus far. Their willingness to attack Trump ensures they are given a mouth piece while further enforcing the progressive media's PC tool of silence and capitulation. So far Cruz is the only one who has not yet gone for it, and wisely so, as those who have, have mostly fallen in the polls. It is sad that we have come to this, that Trump should be our "hero" given he is lacking in so many other ways. But I contend our job is to work with what is provided....even if he is a hateful, homophobic, misogynistic, polluting denier.
The MSM, Democrat and GOP attacks on Trump leave most of us in glee. The desperation makes for the Greatest Shit Show of All Time. The more they squeel, the more I LMFAO. Trump is like some Superhero who gains strength with every verbal attack, then gets nastier just to prove a point.
~"According to him,(him being Mark Halperin, a far-left socilaist), the core GOP and especially his republicans contenders, may attack Trump through four possible frames:
Halperin leaves out the more obvious and fifth reason why the GOPe is attacking Trump:
They don't own him.
They don't own him.
I wouldn't bet on it.
Gubmint: Ctrl-Alt-Del
ELected and reelected career corrupt political miedras: sand paper their skins off, bury them in salt, drop them off in the Iran desert with a can of oil to drink (ala Bond)...
What is the system? Only after knowing this can you ask if it is something you would like saved. Do criminals make the law or does the law exist so you may recognise them?
The system may not be worth saving, but forestalling third world demographic dominance is definitely worthwhile. Gotta be around in sufficient numbers long enough to get another bite at that liberty apple.
Rand Paul IS the establishment.
His Support of McConnell is all the proof I need
No agument here, the leadership on the right needs to go. Rand needs to stop trying to do it better than his dad by playing politics and just start being himself and speaking the truth no matter how un-politically correct it may be. People would love him for it.
Bridge = Burned
McConnell looks like a bug eyed ferret who has done nothing in the Senate, sold out his country and continues to ignore and re-ignore his constituents will and wishes... fukim and the bullsh*t horse the miedras came in on....
Ofcourse your comment is flawed, it assumes Rand is not Establishment.
Israel and Trumps two kids married to jews, daughter a convert is why I know Trump is a shill.
He will trade you never ending war for deported and then returning Mexicans.
Ron Paul kicked to the curb by these same voters.
Won't end well for them, the hour of truth is upon us. No lie can stand now.
Oh Happy Day...
So, once again, this shit devolves into a popularity contest, with no basis in the facts on the ground. W was elected because "I'd like to have a beer with that guy". Obama was elected to be " the first black president". Trump will be elected to "make America great again."
Every one of those quotes autofilled, that's how popular those memes are.... it's too bad we need a LOT more than popular memes!
We're 2-5 election cycles away from President Camacho.
He'd get my vote. That guy made the right decisions.
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Popularity contest is all that's left. Each candidate just makes up a script/bio for himself, based on what they think voters want to hear.
What else can voters use to decide? Every one of them is owned by their corporate sponsors. Every one votes for bills written by lobbyists. At least Trump is saying fuck all that, which is exactly what ZH readers have been praying for. So there's really nothing to lose.
Can Trump IN ANY WAY be worse than the clintons, the bush's or the kenyan porch monkey?
What about Bondo?
back in the day, I could cure anything from a scratch to a true gash. Bondo b good!
President Camacho is overqualified to helm this shitshow.
So, what would your platform be? Hang the bankers and jail the politicians? Good luck with that.
well, that's a good start ;-)
Trump will destroy himself politically trying to repeal Obamacare, anyone would actually, I still hope he succeeds.
Arnold tried something similar in California, tried to reverse the tide of political control of the state by public labor unions... he failed and entirely capitulated.
Oh, I didn't know this was a high school level popularity contest with intellectually equivalent platform. How stupid of me. Sign me up.
"Beef up the military."
Great another MIC freak. Let me guess, you were gung ho about ron paul too?
You're starting to sound pretty HOPEY CHANGEY. Take it from me, it's fun on election night, then it's all downhill from there. By the way, what will you do when all the illegals are sent home, apply for a job picking lettuce or will it be washing dishes?
Perhaps they will put the EBT recharging station at the far end of that field of lettuce...
Trump has no precinct & state organization. The GOP elite will chew him up just like they did Ron Paul last election. Only the elite selected are allowed to proceed.
All hail the Republican wing of the UniParty.
Put Veterans and tax paying U.S. citizens before illegal aliens and non working, nonworking nontaxpaying miscreants 24/7/365!
Albert Einstein stated that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over then expecting a different result.
The sheeple have been electing and reelecting corrupt self aggrandizing bullsh*t career politiician miedras over and over and over and the country now has nearly $19 trillion in debt (ignoring unfunded liabilities), an economy that leaves the middle class behing while obscenely enriching the elite 0.1% and non working, non tax paying sloths and illegal aliens as well as a catastrophic loss in the country's global standing and credibility. The country has never been more nastily divided by the fudgepacker and its democraps along racial, political, religous, social and economical lines in its entire history....
The country needs another lying, cheating cunt-on with her lying, cheating sexual predator spouse who hangs out with pedophiles as much as it needs another term of the arrogant, narcissistic, incompetent, divisive illegal indonesian kenyan alien mulsim lying fudgepacke.r
@SilverRhino
You've been here almost five years and you haven't learned anything about the One Party sytem in the USA? Bunch of Trump retards grasping at straws here at ZH. Hard to believe the quality of commenting on his site has gone down so far, so fast (judging by the up votes on your post).
Wake the fuck up people. Trump represents the 1%, the Wall Street banksters, DC lobbyists like AIPAC and the MIC/Deep State. He has said so himself. I am not making this up.
So it is ZH people that somehow have his numbers that high???
Beef up the Military = More government spending.
Trump thinks government is the solution which I find to be a problem.
You realize that the way you said it, you are implying that "very dark skinned" people are usually not charming......
Meanwhile - this weekend probably 280,000 white idiots in Alabama will be cheering on their Trayvon thugs at U of Alabama and at Auburn.
Southern White Males act like little sissy fanboys cheering on their NCAA and NFL Trayvon thugs while cheering on the genocide of the white race.
Miss Alabama - go f**k yourself.
Don't blame all of us here in Alabama, she graduated from Auburn.
The Republicans don't want him. The Democrats/ Media don't want him. If all of these cocksuckers who are ass raping America don't want him to be President, that means I'm voting for him.
So......... now we're taking voting advise from a beauty contest winner?
I thought we ignored actractive womens's opinion's- or is it only the ones Slick Willy groped.
The Trump clownshow will implode itself.
I'm sure your dream ticket of Jeb/Boehner (maybe McConnel) will make you cream yourself daily.
There is no dream ticket.. Its over for America
Your pinning your hopes to Trump? because he says he will make America great again..?
You should focus more on the complete fucking joke this county has become, and that a man like Trump is actually doing as well as he is... a priviledged billionare, with nothing else to do..
NONE of the above.
Brewsters BILLIONS..
Trump is confirmation that this story is correct.
'Dumb, obese and very patriotic': People from around the world reveal what they REALLY think about Americans in brutally-honest video
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You mean not only Fat Americans indulge in easy to understand stereotyping.. People are individuals, culture not race is the key, I wil put my culture up against any of theirs..
On a bright note, most of the movies at the Cannes film festival featured people smoking...
If you graph the number of smokers over the past 50 years against the number of fat Americans, you will see quite an amazing correlation...
Standard Disclaimer: Less smokers, more fatties...
And VERY heavily armed so fuck them and their opinions.
Did you even watch the link? I guess that's the media these days.... pick the one negative comment and run with it. That stuff was all pretty pro-america, excluding the one used in the headline, and even that one tried to walk it back after she made it.
I watched it on weasel zippers, I do not appreciate the premise that foreign citizens should have any say in my country or I shoud value their take on our citizens. I am simply not interested, its culture..
There is no dream ticket for now, but there are some nightmare tickets. I hate the defeatist attitude os people like you. You might as well go report to your FEMA camp and ask for your lethal injection right now. As for me? I'm going to fight until the end using all means I can. If you survive, you can thank those of us with a back bone later. You're that dude from "Aliens" screaming "Game over man, game over". Really f'ing helpful.
Come on man..
Defeatist attitude?
Just embrassing the horror of the present day dais..
You have convinced me.. Trump it is, together we will show the Chinese, the Russians, the Mexicans, the Arabs, the whole planet the we are great again... under a trump dictatorship, that we will not be fucked with any more. with more money to the MIC and border patrols..
His diatribes against the FED, and wallstreet and quite entertaining..
Hell I may even smoke some weed at one of his rallies...
Hell I may even smoke some weed at one of his rallies...
Make sure it is medical. He is against weed for shits and grins. Although before he became a Republican he thought Prohibition was nuts.
I can't figure out where he stands. That is the reason I'm voting for him. /s
Fight for what? If you really see anything here worth saving... christ, never mind.
Fuck a Bush, fuck a Clinton and fuck anyone that is coming from that cesspit they call Congress.
When every candidate is so dirty it makes you feel like crying, the only option is to get a laugh and vote for the clown.
^ Here here..
Keep in mind the clown has lined the pockets of these chodes for yrs. ( strictly philanthopist do gooder reasons... I'm sure)
And just like ISIS, they lost control, or did they?
Watch him sell (cash) out, and throw his support to any number of the choosen ones...
HE, of, "for the people" calls Snowden a criminal...
Trump would probably like Boehner on the ticket. He donated $100,000 to his reelection campaign two times.
Trump is no friend of liberty or the regular person.
He donated more to Hillarnazi. being a smart business man paying off all the overlords to keep them off you back.
Yeah.. fuck integrity
Because the average joe can fight off the full weight of the Federal Government...
Standard Disclaimer: Yes, fuck integrity, because if you are waiting for someone with integrity to run for office, you'll be waiting a long time. Right up until you draw your last breath.
The GOP/Tea Party/Democrock clown show has imploded on itself.
There, fixed it for ya.
Karl... is that you?
Trump is a distraction...Hitlery will be your next Prez.
(She was already promised)
People may thumb you down but I said the same thing after the 2014 Bilderberg meeting. Why? Because the entire WEEK after they met, the press was over loaded with Hillarnazi love, and what had she done? NOTHING !! It was as if she had been annointed president and the media was celebrating without letting us know.
I have my doubts about this story that Trump is an outsider and the establishment doesn't want him. Then why does he get so much media attention? If they didn't want him, you wouldn't be hearing his name so much. This is what they do when they are scared of a candidate and don't want them in debates;
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/17/green_partys_jill_stein_cheri_hon...
Except ... they cannot do that when the guy is the front-runner, has the #s to be on the stage, and can bankroll his own voice. The good ladies did not meet the criteria at Hofstra.
If they want to shut Trump up, they're going to change the rules again, which they did right after the Ross Perot threat in 1992. They made damn sure nobody from outside the two parties could take the stage again.
Trump has thwarted all that. Although he would be the first one that could actually take the stage as an Independent, he is staying INSIDE the Repulicons camp ... and they actually taunted him into doing it. That makes this all the funnier.
And what do you know, turns out Hillary and Trump are long lost cousins.
"Both the real estate tycoon and former Secretary of State are the direct descendants of 14th century 1st Duke of Lancaster John of Gaunt and his third wife Katherine Swynford, according to the ancestry site MyHeritage.com.
Clinton claims the lineage to her 18th great-grandparents through the Rodham family of her father's side while Trump is related to her through his mother Mary Anne Macleod, who was born in Scotland.
The common relative means that the Democrat and Republican are 19th cousins. "
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3210778/Donald-Trump-Hillary-Clinton-revealed-distant-cousins-family-trees-share-set-royal-ancestors.html#ixzz3lpPbJ9s7"i'm looking to see if there's a family resemblance with the hair
Trump hasn't thwarted jack shit. The oligarchs control the media utterly, and if he's getting coverage it's because they want him to. He's a stooge. He's up there saying exactly what people wanna hear, in the language they wanna hear it in. This is all very carefully timed and orchestrated.
> Poll numbers didn't save JFK...
nor RFK...
If the GOP mainstreamers spent half as much time stopping the liberal dem agenda as they do THEIR OWN DAMN CONSERVATIVE MEMBERS then they wouldn't be losing as badly as they are. The dems have run roughshod over the limp boner and mcconnel for the past 6+ years. The GOP won resoundingly last election and still they cowtow to the dems' every desires. It's become obvious to me and anyone with two firing neurons that GOP 'leadership' has been captured by obama and he has serious dirt on key members that he is holding over them to make them comply. Nothing else even remotely makes sense.
GOP leadership has been captured but not by Obungler. He is a puppet. Both parties are controlled opposition and required to play their roles. Unfortunately the casting dept. is not doing their job well and we are seeing piss poor appearances. At least Trump has some reality TV experience.
Speakng of 'captured', wonder how outrageous the dirt is on John Roberts-- rewriting Obamacare from the bench, then upholdng it. Twice.
Or RFK
My guess is the GOP's pathetic "four possible frames" aren't going to do much to Trump. The GOP establishment has vastly under-rated how pissed off people are with them.
The beltway insiders just don't understand how pissed people are becoming and they'll keep on shitting on their front lawn. I don't think Trump will make it to the end, but he will screw things up enough to keep Jeb out......
You got it right. A good friend of mine considers himslef a paleoconservative. At first he was against Trump and saying the same things as the media "he's an entertainer", "He just playing around to drop out later for the enxt season of Apprentice", "he says things you cant say". And now? I spoke with him yesterday and he has actually listened and watched a few of his campaign events and now he's on board. While he isn't going to go out and stump for him, he has finally realized that any of the usual suspects will only get more of the same. And he doesnt care that Trump may not be a perfect conservative. The other choices are far worse. He is voting for Trump if he's the nominee. Trump is NOT a herman cain. The establishment can keep thinking that to their own peril.
People are pissed off and tired of the bullshit.
Then he should Un-"consider himself a paleoconservative."
The Republican Party is nothing more than socialist-lite, EVEN on the local level. It is very easy to displace, frustrate, and cause acrimony within it. It requires your time, however. This is why it won't happen. Not many people will give their time as our fore fathers worriedly prophesied.
Whatever happened to the "project mayhem" spirit in ZH?
Where are the sabeutors, the mischievous misfits, the anarchists? What difference will YOU ever make?
Have you ever tried to barter for something lately? Why wait to trade all that delicious bourbon AFTER the crisis? Why not trade it now while it still tastes good (unless it is still in the oak cask)? Turn over some stock, for goodness sake.
Have you begun to identify your local allies? Your networks you can depend on? Your * enemies* local strategic Weaknesses?
Nothing will happen if none of us continue to just wait for something to happen or someone else to make it happen. We are a long ways off from any "event". Start practicing what you preach and believe in now.
Your "paleoconservative" friend is a hypocrite.
Nope. He has realized that voting for the "true" conservatives isn't going to get shit done. And they will not follow through. He is tired of their constant BS to the primary voters that they NEVER go through with let alone even atempt to try.
And go ahead and go fuck yourself Mr Mayhem. Go ahead and storm the castle walls, please. I'm sure you will be one of the first casualties... except that people like you always like to get others to do their fighting for them while they sit behind in safety while the people you gin up to fight get killed.
Oh..., you're still here posting on the site instead of taking it to the man? I'm sooooooo surprised.
I will survive - and my friend will as well. Don't worry though, We'll make sure to erect a statue in your name for dying in the war for the rest of us.
Wait a minute... You're still here and not running off with your AR-15 to take on the man? No sir, YOU are the hypocrite.
Perhaps I deserved that.
I had to go back and re-read my statement to see where I might have advocated shooting people...and there was no mention of that.
But, I did say " you" when I should have said "one". Because I, quite frankly, know nothing about "you." That was quite presumptuous of me.
So "you" can resume fucking your "paleoconservative" "friend" up the ass now, since you apparently do nothing else based on the defensiveness of your response. And your buddy's solution to the ills of the world -to vote for a Fascist, mafioso, low class, crude talking, narcissistic, insecure, woman- hating, bullying, piece of crap (when even if the best person in the world was available to be President -it still wouldn't matter because of you and your Homo friend) is about as helpful as "storming the castle walls."
And when "you" and your paleo butt-buddy erect my statue, be sure to spell my name correctly:
"His name was: S-T-A-R-E-S_S-T-R-A-I-G-H-T_A-H-E-A-D."
No, they will sink him with some other story about how he likes little boys.
The GOP has been finished for at least a couple of decades. They have nothing to offer.
"The GOP has been finished for at least a couple of decades. They have nothing to offer."
Actually, they have a lot to offer plutocrats. Why anyone else would vote for them is a complete mystery to me. By the way, the Democrats suck cock too, they're down on their knees sucking Satan's pecker just as hard every fucking day. Both parties need to be terminated with extreme prejudice, preferably via disassembly with sharp saws.