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"The End Of The EU": Merkel's "Heroic" Refugee Response May Destroy Union, Slovakia Warns

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On Tuesday, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban served notice that he absolutely was not joking around about ensuring that an influx of migrants fleeing war-torn Syria did not end up “changing” Hungary’s “1000-year old Christian culture.” 

So serious about this was Orban, that he built himself a 100 mile-long, 12-foot anti-migrant fence out of razor wire along the border with Serbia, passed a set of emergency laws that allow for the arrest and subsequent prosecution of anyone who damages his new fence, and then sent police on horseback as well as the military to enforce his new laws.

Here is the one-day result of that crackdown:

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And here’s Gyorgy Bakondi, an aide to Prime Minister Viktor Orban: “We hope that the messages we have been sending migrants for a long time have reached them. Don’t come. Because this route doesn’t lead where you want to go.”

So, for now anyway, it’s mission accomplished for Orban.

But this isn’t a story about Viktor Orban, it’s a story about migrants and while Orban may succeed in ensuring that Hungary isn’t inundated with asylum seekers (that is unless Germany decides to make quotas mandatory), closing one border won’t keep the huddled masses fleeing Syria from finding their way north to Germany. 

As we noted on Tuesday, Hungary has begun sending refugees back to Serbia which is of course in no position to handle the influx even if it wanted to. Serbian labor minister Aleksandar Vulin had the following message for Budapest:

"They have not done anything wrong by any criminal law. You cannot send them to Serbia without their permission. These people don't want stay in Serbia. They want to travel to Europe or wherever they want. We are not a concentration camp and we do not expect anyone to consider us as a concentration camp."

So, predictably, the new favored route to Germany will go through Croatia. Here’s WSJ:

About 150 migrants crossed into Croatia from Serbia overnight, the Croatian interior ministry said on Wednesday, marking an alternative route for refugees to enter the European Union after Hungary fenced-off its border with Serbia.

 

The migrants were being registered at a border crossing at Tovarnik on Wednesday, a Croatian interior ministry spokeswoman said.

 

Buses in Serbia have been taking migrants to Sid, a town on the Serbian side of the border, Serbian and Hungarian media reported after Hungary erected a 110-mile long fence in an effort to stem the flow of refugees. Migrants would then enter Croatia, some through points other than the official border crossing.

 

Croatia’s Prime Minister Zoran Milanovic said his country would handle migrants or direct them further north to the more affluent European countries, mostly Germany and Sweden, where most migrants have said they wish to go.

Here's a look at the current state of border controls (courtesy of BBC) followed by a graphic that takes a more granular look at people flows in the region (via Frontex):

But the new route presents its own set of challenges, both for Croatia and for the refugees. Via The New York Times:

The closing of Hungary’s borders has raised concerns among humanitarian groups that migrants seeking to get to Croatia could inadvertently cross through areas near the Hungarian-Croatian border that are littered with thousands of land mines left from the Balkan wars of the 1990s. On Wednesday, Croatian demining experts were sent to the area where many migrants were arriving, Reuters reported.

 

The countries of the former Yugoslavia, which were torn apart by the wars, have thus far taken a tolerant and welcoming stance toward the migrants, who have viewed the region as a transit zone rather than a final destination. But with Hungary’s decision to criminalize the breaching of its borders, countries like Serbia and Croatia, which are relatively homogeneous and poor compared with some of their richer European neighbors, could soon confront a stream of migrants for which they are ill prepared.

Through it all, the allure of a new life in Germany far outweighs the risks for most asylum seekers, especially considering the horrors in Syria that they have managed to escape. Indeed, the picture the Germans are painting about what it's like to arrive in the country couldn't be more different than what now welcomes refugees at the Hungarian border. Compare and contrast:

For Chancellor Angela Merkel, the German response to the crisis has done wonders to restore her reputation which, as regular readers are no doubt acutely aware, was tarnished by Berlin's hardline stance throughout the protracted Greek bailout negotiations. And although Merkel's position carries significant political risks, she seems to be as resolute in her beliefs and Orban is in his own. Here's Bloomberg

It was when the numbers became faces that German Chancellor Angela Merkel made a decision that could make or break her political legacy.

 

As she toured a refugee center in the eastern German town of Heidenau on Aug. 26, hearing stories from Syrians about traumatic journeys to flee their civil war, protesters against their arrival jeered and shouted abuse. Some called her a “traitor to the nation.” The experience left her shaken but determined to act, according to two close Merkel aides.

 


 

What ensued was a strategy for dealing with a flood of refugees by simply letting them come. While her open-door policy transformed her image almost overnight from the scourge of the Greeks into the conscience of Europe, it threatens to split the continent and presents a domestic high-wire balancing act even more dramatic than the euro crisis.

 

“If we now have to start apologizing for showing a friendly face in response to an emergency situation, then that’s not my country,” Merkel said at a press conference in Berlin on Tuesday.

The question now, is whether Merkel will seek to use Germany's financial and political clout to force other EU nations to soften their stance on refugees. As we said on Tuesday, "the perception that Germany is forcing an unwanted demographic shift might well serve to fan the flames not only of nationalism but of religious intolerance, especially given the likelihood that those opposed to settling the migrants will be predisposed to stirring up fears of ISIS operatives slipping into Europe disguised as refugees."

And that's not all. To let some countries tell it, were Germany to impose its will on recalcitrant states by force, they may well destroy the EU for good. We close with the following from Reuters:

Chancellor Angela Merkel appealed for European unity after one of her ministers called for financial penalties against countries that refused to accommodate their share of the migrants, provoking anger in central Europe.

 

A Czech official described such threats as empty but nonetheless "damaging" while Slovakia said they would bring the "end of the EU".

 

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Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:11 | 6554741 Son of Captain Nemo
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The pictures in this you're not seeing of vandals galore just like Jane Standley didn't see WT7 drop 23 minutes before it actually did!..

Nothing more nothing less than a "bought and paid for crisis" with your money that can't go to waste!

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:11 | 6554744 Haus-Targaryen
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This would be one of the top 5 best days of my life. 

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:15 | 6554762 Son of Captain Nemo
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This would be one of the top 5 best days of my life.

If they put Soros, Merkel and her entire cabinet on a wood platform douse them with petrol and "light a match"...

Then I'd concur!

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:30 | 6554787 Bokkenrijder
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A Dutch journalist has bought a fake passport in Syria, has it delivered within 40 hours with a picture of the Dutch prime minister (Mark Rutte), a date marking his birthdate (except the birth year is showing 4 years older, as a little joke to imply that politics ages people faster) and an Arab name mocking his initials (Malek Ramadan).

Allegedly thousands of original blank Syrian passports, printing presses and official stamps have gone 'missing' since the civil war, and are in the hands of Mafia and terrorists.

http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2015/09/malek_ramadan.html

http://revu.nl/nieuws/nieuwe-revu-koopt-een-syrisch-paspoort-en-we-zijn-...

How many IS + Al-Qaeda terrorists + economic immigrants having fake Syrian passports are already inside the EU?

Here's some pictures of Mark Rutte, so you can compare: https://www.google.com/search?q=mark+rutte+prime+minister+netherlands&ne...

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:37 | 6554861 CheapBastard
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The UN had been oddly quiet. They are usually quick to cricize but not a peep out of them.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:05 | 6554985 unknownknowns
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I think the UN is playing at redistribution games:

They are trying hard to promote 'carbon' in a way that they can use carbon-taxes to redistribute the west's wealth to the third-world. 

Failing to redistribute the wealth, from the west to the third-world, they seem to have decided to redistribute the people, third-world to the west!

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:42 | 6555205 Son of Captain Nemo
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The UN had been oddly quiet. They are usually quick to cricize but not a peep out of them.

Just doing their job to promote fear, anger and resentment of the indigenous with black ops among the refugees in there own backyard to urge them on for the "mother of all battles" in Syria and Eastern Ukraine with some much needed "fireworks"...

The analogy that best descxribes it.  It's like inviting the neighbors over for a "pool party" and shitting in your own pool with a grin on your face asking your invited guests to count which of your turds float to the surface and which of them sank to the bottom!

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 12:45 | 6555881 ThroxxOfVron
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"The UN had been oddly quiet. They are usually quick to cricize but not a peep out of them. "

 

I gather that the moment the issue is presented to the UN that several issues will be presented:

1. Demands for full scale/long term UN interventions in the ME and Africa, etc. to stabilize these nations.

2. Demands for full scale/long term wealth redistribution programs from 'rich' nations/economics to 'poor' ones.

3. Demands for distributing/relocating 'refugees' to 'rich' nations via a quota system as the Merkel/Junker faction in Germany/EU proposes will be presented. 

Do the US, Israel, Japan, China, G. Britain, New Zealand, Canada, Russia, Mexico, etc. etc. etc. want to hear this???

FUCK NO.  -NONE OF THEM.

A LOT OF FENCES & WALLS COMING.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:39 | 6554875 NoGodsNoMasters...
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You mean with mafia and terrorists the CIA,MI6 and Mossad gang , dressed up as ISIS, fuckin shit up over there to blame it on the boogeyman of the week ?

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:44 | 6554905 DOT
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Crap, I can't tell. All those white people look the same.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:52 | 6554938 Pliskin
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Shit! What did I miss? Did Mcain just die?

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:10 | 6555378 Oldrepublic
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re: Jane Standley

anyone know about her? some sources say she killed herself, other

sources say she now works for the UN

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:12 | 6554742 Haus-Targaryen
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See above.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:11 | 6554745 Bank_sters
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They will stop at nothing to get their superstate.  

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:13 | 6554750 Quinvarius
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Stop backing ISIS and start backing Assad so these people can go home to sanity.  Obama's Syrian adventure is a complete disaster with no meaning.  Sure Assad may have been a dick.  Just like Saddam was a dick.  But now even the biggest dumbasses can see why they had to be dicks.  As soon as they are not controlling the Muslim fanatics, the Muslim fanatics go apeshit.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:25 | 6554811 Global Hunter
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About 2 years ago saw an interview with people on the street in Damascus on RT, one Palestinian man when asked if he supported Assad government said (paraphrase) "their government is hospitable to us and protect us, we don't get involved in politics and they leave us alone to live our lives in peace". 

It was a whole lot better than what the west has brought them.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:31 | 6554830 Pliskin
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Global Hunter...You are now officially a terrorist for writing that post.  Stay away from nail guns, cars, planes, electric sockets, scissors, food that you didn't grow yourself and cheesecake.

N.B.  I lied about the Cheesecake, I just want it all for myself!

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:40 | 6554878 Global Hunter
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phew you said nothing about wine gums or tea so I'm cool.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:47 | 6554920 Pliskin
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You like Wine Gums and Tea.

Well someone's just given away their nationality to the rest of us ZHers.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:03 | 6555334 Global Hunter
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Raised in Canada, my wife and I are pretty good cooks but my mother bless her heart does boil vegetables and potatoes to a near mush. 

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:21 | 6555437 Pliskin
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'...but my mother bless her heart does boil vegetables and potatoes to a near mush.'

 

Which is exactly how they're supposed to be cooked.

Stop complaining and eat your veggies young man.

:)

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 12:16 | 6555724 zeroaccountability
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Hungary erected a 110-mile long 'MIDDLE FINGER'!!!

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:33 | 6555147 Freddie
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Don't forget tall buildings, do not accept any middle management banking jobs with large banks with facilities in NYC, Holland, NJ, Hong Kong, Bejing and a few others.  Buy a parachute just in case.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:42 | 6554890 NoPension
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15 years ago, I started to say;
If you are " noble" enough to intercede and remove an abusive father from a family, you have the responsibility to then take care of that family.

It would seem, from the results so far, these societies require a strongman as a leader. And if we impose our values, and remove the strongman, you owe it to the people to step in and run their show, at least until they can carry on without you. They don't seem capable, or willing. Why? I don't have a clue. It just is. Hussein. Qadaffi . Assad. These guys were/ are assholes, in our view, but they are the type required to keep a lid on this madhouse.
What we have now is far worse.
Gee, thanks.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:06 | 6554996 Motasaurus
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They ran corporate states where people were used to relying on the government to keep them safe. It was always just assumed that the strong-man in the palace would defend them, so why would they ever learn how to defend themselves? 

Of course this worked both ways. Why would a dictator ever encourage resourcefulness from a population that was happy to pay him a lot of money to protect them?

Look around. These people are not so different from your average Westerner. 

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:49 | 6554919 Lucky Leprachaun
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@Global.......Ditto for Iraq, Libya, Lebanon and Afghanistan.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:05 | 6555348 Global Hunter
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agree, Libya was a stable country even if it did seem to be slightly "bonkers" by our standards, but we went and turned it into Mad Max.  What does that make us?

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:30 | 6554828 NoGodsNoMasters...
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The meaning is obvious to go after Iran, close the cricle around Russia, start to pivot against China and control the "Heartland" as Brzezinski called it. Muslim fanatics are the US Assets of choice to overthrow countries in the area and creata a fear porn for the own citizens. Its no mystery that the radical wahabit-salafist mosques organized by the CIA asset Fehtullah Gülen is responsible for the radicalization of the Muslims.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:12 | 6555020 Quinvarius
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"What a puny plan!"

-Lord Humungus circa 1979

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:14 | 6555404 schadenfreude
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That's the reason why Saudia-Arabia gernerously offered to donate 100 mosques to be build in Germany for the fresh arrived Sysrian people. 

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:28 | 6555469 NoGodsNoMasters...
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Yes. They say for every 100 refugees, 1 mosque. Thanks to the drug money of the CIA and other crony sponsors.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:16 | 6554983 Element
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Agree Quin, Washington's insistence on sacrificing Syrians and their country on the basis of a failed 'policy' favoring radical rebels, who are just keeping the blood flowing, and destruction growing, is absurd and international disgrace. Putin is being opportunistic of course, but the approach he proposes is the one a sane person would take, to support the Syrian people and the re-ordering of their country (not for Assad's sake). And if Washington doesn't like Assad, so what? It's not like Washington doesn't or hasn't committed vile acts of infamy. Not as if they are any less guilty of horrendous acts. So they should hold their noses and help Syria's people to recover their territory and an orderly state where 20 million people can live and regenerate a viable life far sooner.

They may not like that Putin will relatively benefit too but refusing to help the bulk of the people of Syria to aid Muslim rebel groups, simply adds credibility to Putin's accusation. They need to get together and sort this out. if they can work with Iran they can work with Putin and Assad and end this bloody war, because none of those 'rebels' groups will ever make peace, because they are utterly fanatical warmongering Muslim radical arseholes, who have destroyed Syria's cities and people. What country on earth would not have used every tool available to defend themselves against such people? Or tried to eliminate them wherever they were? there is not one Western country that would have done any less to attack and kill them. And yet we are to pretend this can all be sheeted-home to Assad?

Either the West will cooperate to end it now, or they must attack Assad, which will let ISIS win and spread, and butcher hundreds of thousand more people, maybe a few million in time.

Only a fool would allow that happen. but does anyone think Obama, Kerry and the Pentagon are not stupid or even malicious enough to do that anyway? If they have any self-respect or want credibility, they will end the war by smashing ISIL with overwhelming fire-power. Stuffing about and worrying that it will look bad with too many dead civilians to go in heavy and wipe them out, only guarantees they will spread. Because the longer they leave it the bigger will be the attacks they need to make. There is no way this ends without killing a vast number of civilians in around when ISIL operates. That is a given. And there is no way you can beat an enemy like this with pin pricks and stuffing about.

Go big, or just go home.

And I don't think Obama has the spine to do either of those. So just what the hell are the US Military telling the Golfer in Chief? Who is it that is getting in Obama's ear so that it leads to this? Join forces with every able party present and smash ISIS quick, or simply get the hell out of there. Let the Russians and Iranians do it. At least they might actually do something that works, is effective and makes sense.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:30 | 6555095 corsair
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Going big means boots on the ground. But wait, isn't that exactly what The Empire wants?

Nice of you to call for cooperation, but I'm afraid they want to do it alone. Incidentally, that is exactly what this "crisis" is all about. Spreading fear and xenophobia so that western populace would demand firm action.

Think of it as 9/11 redux.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:46 | 6555189 Element
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Going big does not require going in on the ground. Other states are already doing that, the West supports with air support. A huge alliance totally smashed Sadam's military in Desert Storm in about a 4 week period of a go-big style air attack. That air attack on fielded forces alone was so withering that the formerly well equipped battle-hardened experienced Iraq's disintegrated and surrendered en-mass, rather then go through any more of that sort of relentless attack. That can be done again, quickly. The result then was extremely low Western loses, and a totally smashed opponent.

And I would not presume at all that Russia or Iran or Syria are going to find it easy, fast, or without serious losses to come. And looking at Putin's recent comments there's no indication I can see that he wants to do it alone. On the contrary, he's openly inviting Western combat cooperation and agreed mutual aims.

There is a golden opportunity here - that will benefit all sides. Not everyone, nor probably anyone is going to get what they want from this situation, it will be a pragmatic compromise, but this should be about ending this absurd barbaric war, for the people's sake.

 

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:46 | 6555233 corsair
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Let me clarify: The West wants to do it alone.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:21 | 6555426 Element
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OK, thanks for that.

I did hear the recent WH warning to Russia about continuing the intervention. They don't want Russia there, but that's not exactly going to change due to that. They know that, so why are they saying it? It seems to be a face saver. Lavrov needs to get on the job and change the dynamics, perhaps even a trip to Washington to see if cooperation is possible and if a mutual compromise can be made that the US will go along with. Obviously western forces have a plan here and are escalating forces into it. If cooperation is refused due to that plan, then Russia and Iran would be taking a big risk operating forces in the area.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:13 | 6554757 I AM SULLY
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The human swoil, the massive toil, the monstrosity of humans loyal to violent over-turnings and other heinous crapola ...

This is the face of the ignored, neglected, murder-throngs of human decrepitude and decay and other shite.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:16 | 6554766 Gilnut
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Methinks the Germans are in a "Maverick" situation.  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3dFPAUhi24

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:17 | 6554771 Dr. Engali
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Better be careful what you say Prime Minister. If you don't abide by TPTB's wishes then you might find your country liberated by some freedumb bombs. 

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:20 | 6554772 overmedicatedun...
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EU got Merkel, we got carly and meg and the hag of hags hillary..thank god women got into the circle of power.

and more in the wings: beth  w the indian, the list is now endless..the damage they do is beyond reason.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:26 | 6554813 Pliskin
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Seriously? You refer to these things as women?  You need to get out more.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:53 | 6554947 shovelhead
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Haha.

I saw my first "I heart Hillary" sticker on a soccer mom's SUV yesterday.

So many conflicting emotions all at once. Astonishment, amusement, sadness, despair, all levened with a spritz of vein popping anger...

I ordered a double as soon as we got to the restuarant.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:37 | 6555174 Freddie
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And they killed Benazir Bhutto because she spilled the beans that bin Laden died shortly after 9-11. 

She was pretty hot for a Pakistani woman.  I don't think she had cankles.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 12:19 | 6555744 SofaPapa
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I have no love for any of these lower than humans.

But to say it has to do with their being female is meaningless.  Is Hillary worse than Cheney?  Merkel worse than Cameron?

Male versus female is a completely irrelevant distinction.  They're all equally psychotic.  Don't waste your thought focusing on trivia.  They all suck.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:18 | 6554777 Bryan
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Where's Hitler when you need him?

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:24 | 6554802 Pliskin
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Err, he's either in the Knesset vowing to kill as many Muslims as possible or in Congress telling his stooges that Iran are building Super-Nuclear-Bombs.  Not sure of his itinery this week.  Log on to Israel.gov and have a look for yourself.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:26 | 6554816 22winmag
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Hitler didn't die. He multiplied.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:35 | 6555156 justdues
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The most lied about man in history (of the victors)

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 16:12 | 6557169 Victor von Doom
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The only other one that springs to mind is Emperor Caligula. The Jews lied about him because of his beef with them as well.

"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."

- Victor von Doom

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:20 | 6554783 Dr. Engali
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Curious how all the pictures of fleeing refugees are mostly young men. 

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:33 | 6554838 NoGodsNoMasters...
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Part of the strategy of tensions to create the illusion there are not 30.000children dieing every day and more than 1/3 of the refugees are ones...

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:45 | 6554910 pods
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Probably because once your town is overrun by our ISIS friends you have two choices. 

ISIS or death.

pods

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:44 | 6554907 messymerry
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What EXACTLY are you trying to say here, Dr. Engali.  Igor, turn up the juice. 

;-D

 

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:20 | 6554784 Pliskin
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Orban didn't want to be part the sanctions on Russia, but he kow-towed to the EU and U.S. anyway.  Now he's talking tough, HA, I think not Viktor old boy, you'll do as the EU/U.S. tells you or you'll turn on your T.V. one morning soon to see Sticky Vicky handing out cookies and some Neo-Nazis shooting your cops.

Now get back down on your knees bitch and suck on this!

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:21 | 6554786 Handful of Dust
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Why doesn't the MSM criticize the Muslim countries for not taking in their own?

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:33 | 6554836 Pliskin
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Do you really need to ask that question? Welcome to Fight Club.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:14 | 6555030 Motasaurus
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Why would the Shiite, Kurd and Christian refugees want to flee to the Wahabist/Salafist nations that have been sponsoring, training and arming the people they are fleeing from? 

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:37 | 6554858 NoGodsNoMasters...
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As if thats the really important stuff to ask . Who owns MSM ? Right there you have it...

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:43 | 6554898 Bemused Observer
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I love this comment! Thank you HOD! You should send this to Trump...I bet HE'D say it!

I can picture him making a speech, and demanding to know why no Muslim country is taking these folks in...and start listing all the Muslim countries by name.

Fuck the MSM! They won't EVER ask such a question. THIS is why Trump is surging in the polls. And I love it, even if I don't believe he'd be a very good President. If all he manages to do is upset the apple-cart, then Mission Accomplished Donald!

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:54 | 6554951 Savyindallas
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Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE and Bahrain can take them all in.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:59 | 6554974 847328_3527
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MSM hasn't publicized much the Wife Beating Symposium they held in Paris either.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:25 | 6554806 kralizec
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I hope the Czech offical is correct.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:26 | 6554812 22winmag
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Like I always say, Auslanders Raus.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:40 | 6554882 AlfredNeumann
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Especially the USA and their bases

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:52 | 6554942 knuppel
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Klar

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:38 | 6555178 Freddie
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Germans and all EU slaves need to march in the streets with sighs that say:

Hey Muti - F**k You!

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:32 | 6554834 youngman
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This is the end of old Europe...the Muzzies will finally have taken over...only took 13 centuries....

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:52 | 6554939 NoPension
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If they just stand idly by and take it, then, they pretty much deserve it.

I,for one, and waiting for the tipping point. When someone or some group, stands up and says, " enough of this shit" .

USA is getting close. I'm a US citizen, and my elected " leaders" bend over backwards for illeagal fucking foriegn INVADERS, at my expense. MY government, is my fucking enemy. They made it so, not me.

Hungary is there.

We will see if the suicide pact in Europe is mutual.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:45 | 6555228 Freddie
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The USA is a joke too.  Stupid white males cheering on trayvon thug ball players and cheering on white genocide.  White women voting for Obama.

The biggest military in history allowing the USA to be taken over and destroyed while doing nothing.  An armed citizenry just watching ball games and other idiocy. America is a bigger joke. 

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:33 | 6554839 rsnoble
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I have no problems with what Hungary is doing.  Yes, I feel sorry for those fleeing.  I don't see why a country should have to crash down further to support someone elses fuckup.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:34 | 6554842 Mike Honcho
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What group of people would benefit by pitting Christians and Muslims against eachother, while breaking down local and regional traditional culture?

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:43 | 6554897 Pliskin
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I'll take Israel for $500 Alex.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:44 | 6554901 Global Hunter
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within that, Christian v Christian and Muslim v Muslim.  I can't believe how many Anglicans and other Protestant Christians there are that are foaming at the mouth for more war despite the destruction and death caused to Orthodox Christians in North Africa and the Middle East (and Ukraine) due to our actions and those of our "allies".

US and NATO allied Sunnis in Saudi Arabia funding Islamic groups to massacre Shiite and Alawites, traditional Christian nations like the USA and the UK funding groups that kill fellow Christians.  It goes on and on.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:59 | 6554973 jtg
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The West is post-Christian and doesn't give a sh*t about Christians in the Middle East. The West has been in the grip of a power drive for five hundred years, and will kill millions more to keep what it thinks is its divine right to rule the world.

But the rest of the world is starting to give the West the finger, and rightly so.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:26 | 6555102 Raul44
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It would save USA from collapse by making it appear "best choice" again. 

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:36 | 6554854 Bemused Observer
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Merkel and her Germany will get what they deserve...a flood of migrants that will strain her budget in a way that a hundred Greek debt-forgivnesses would not have done. So go ahead Merkel, enjoy your new-found "compassionate German" reputation. I just hope your fellow Germans are as compassionate to you when they are introduced to all their new neighbors, and when they find out how much your 'compassion' is going to cost them...

And I couldn't help but notice the map, and the fact that all these troubled areas are just north of...Greece. So, I guess the entry point is somewhere near...Greece.

The average German citizen is perfectly able to read a map. Perhaps this will occur to them too.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:50 | 6554921 Pure Evil
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Your average German is afraid of being called a racist, zenophobe, and/or islamophobic, so will do nothing but hope to vent his rage at the next election only to find out they were screwed over once again by their EU owners.

They should accept their new master race status as the throwbacks to Neanderthals that they are and just start paying the jizya.

And, all you German women should start shopping for hajibs and burquas and dump the mini-skirts and tube tops.

I for one welcome our new insect overlords.

(Pure Evil Note: Just replace insect with muslim.)

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 12:33 | 6555818 Bemused Observer
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You're right, and that is a huge problem. Political 'correctness' has stifled any and all discussion on issues like immigration, to the point where too many feel helpless to protest anything without being labeled as "racist".

This is the reason I welcome Trump's candidacy...I don't actually want the guy to win, though he just might. But his habit of ignoring the rules of PC speech and SAYING what he feels is a very, very good thing, especially if it catches on. And with his growing popularity, it just might occur to others that THEY can start saying what they feel. Then instead of the mealy-mouthed double-talk, we could start having REAL discussions about these issues.

We need to break the spell that has been cast over us. We NEED to hear all opinions, even the ones we consider unpleasant. Only then will we be able to come up with viable solutions. If people are angry about immigrants taking jobs, etc, there is a REASON for that. And it's probably the fault of the leadership, not the immigrants themselves. But until we are able to TALK about it, we'll never really know.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:39 | 6555182 PrimalScream
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the refugees have been flooding north through Macedonia and Albania.  In addition to Syrians, many young Greeks and Albanians who are unemployed are also using this opportunity to relocate to western Europe.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:41 | 6554863 knuppel
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Don't let schlomo the schlemiel near the city gate bolts.

George Soros W2EU Group Is Giving Handbooks to Fake Refugee Invaders http://news.sky.com/story/1551853/sky-finds-handbook-for-eu-bound-migran...

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:39 | 6554874 rita
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 Sorry, i cannot accept taking the mickey out of such a dreadfull situation, becomes as shocking as the cause of this crisis.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:40 | 6554877 RougeUnderwriter
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Looks like the Shemhitah is occurring - the big reset is happening

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:57 | 6554971 Dr. Engali
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I thought the Shemhitah was yesterday? Sorry, it's hard to keep up with these world ending events.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:27 | 6555109 shovelhead
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Is that like a Jewish Rapture?

Are there schmeckle checks?

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:49 | 6555261 Dr. Engali
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lol..... That was damn funny.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:43 | 6554900 Salsa Verde
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Any nation in Europe with half a clue is dusting off their old soveriegn currency presses.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:04 | 6554986 shovelhead
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And some anti-personnel mines too.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:50 | 6554929 Zero-Hegemon
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Send them back, they won't assimilate, ever. Just like the joos, they will hold the host culture in contempt for its very existence. Then they try to out-breed it and let demographics take over. It's happening.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:53 | 6554950 Pure Evil
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What the muslims couldn't do with the sword they'll accomplish with the womb.

And, that's conquer Europe.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:25 | 6555093 o r c k
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Appears that Sweden has succumbed and is now a Muslim society. Also appears to have been their goal. Sorry, but why would you make your Country the rape capital of Europe on purpose. Self hatred made them an easy target. Notice how the world has accepted their chosen societal suicide and hardly even comments on them any more ?  A civilization, Gone With The Wind.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 12:31 | 6555809 hendrik1730
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Agree.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:54 | 6554932 jtg
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Neocons and Neoliberals must be overjoyed, they have successfully staged the chaos to subvert the EU into bombing Syria.

Watch their agents use their vassals in the EU media to push for war on Syria under the fake war on ISIS.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 09:57 | 6554967 RabbitOne
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Immigrants have the advantage. When the socialist piggybank runs dry they will be the first to beat your door down to survive (or rob your house now) since they are well trained by war…

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:02 | 6554980 Hannibal
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Not a word that most of them are Christian refugees escaping IS persecutions, killings and lootings.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:42 | 6555203 Why.Not.
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Because most of them aren't. They are 70+% Muslim. See a recent WSJ article, and look at the demographics involved. 

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 12:29 | 6555798 hendrik1730
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Bullshit. 90+ % are muslim, and most of them NEVER even lived in Syria. There are masses of blacks, people coming from Lybia, Afghanistan, Irak all telling the same prefabricated story. You can buy a false Syrian passport for 750 US$ delivered after 2 days. And by the way, most "refugees" throw away their ID's and passports BEFORE crossing the EU borders. Talking about lootings, just look on U-tube WHO is looting and demolishing whatever they touch after coming to the EU. Yes, the "poor refugees". Trains are wrecked, food thrown away, tents and clothing left whereever, junk and shit ( literally ) everywhere, these are not refugees, they are bloody savages. Look on U-tube for movies about gang rapes of Scandinavian native women. You DON'T BELIEVE WHAT YOU SEE. Animals ..... muslims behave like animals.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:17 | 6555050 PrimalScream
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Interesting to read this thread on ZH this morning.  Last night, I was thinking exactly the same thing.  It's very likely that the influx of refugees into Germany will weaken the German economy.  Europe will be on its knees, before this is over.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:19 | 6555065 q99x2
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The terrorist refugees from Syrian hell are comin for you and your leaders Goldman Sachs no good M'Frs scum bag banksters. Well it seemed that way in the year 2015 when the open source community released its beta version of a democratic politician named The Democratic Bankfeind.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:20 | 6555070 koos
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Either the Germans have gone insane by allowing these hordes into Europe, or that's been the plan all along...to create a crisis big enough to end the EU.

Perhaps the Germans have had enough of bailouts and economic situations like the ones in Greece and Spain and Italy, but due to their history, couldn't very well come out and say it's over.

Again, they caused this crisis. By accident, or on purpose?

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:30 | 6555132 q99x2
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All the decent looking people in the Germany photo look like Germans and the ones in the other photo look like ISIS terrorists that might be carrying CIA manufactured bombs

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:33 | 6555145 shovelhead
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Anyone can see that the problem originates in Turkey. The EU should rent Greece's Navy to turn em back to Turkey.

Win/win.

Erdogan needs new voters anyway.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:41 | 6555196 SmittyinLA
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We should be shipping our illegals to the EU, (much harder to swim back)

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:42 | 6555201 Raul44
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I hate Merkel. With passion. She is a traitor not to Germany but whole europe. She damaged and ruined everything she possibly could since beginning. From her first decisions on Greece bailouts until now to kill the already weakened by crisis europe. Stupid, fucking bitch. 

I definitely welcome Hungary`s decision but still think its not good enough. Anybody trying to cross the restricted area should be shot. Yes shot, no matter how bad it sounds, because this is the only real deterrent. And worrying about mine field danger lol ;), so lets put warning there and let them decide!

Also if Serbia complain maybe they should better protect their own borders from the south first!

Lastly, this is only beginning folks. Even without future wars, planet changes, resource limits and especially clean water shortage is going to push masses, billions not millions of people shift. How will you deal with that? Good luck.   

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:00 | 6555320 gunzeon
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lest we forget, she speaks Russian !

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 12:22 | 6555767 hendrik1730
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I agree. This is just a BEGINNING.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 00:39 | 6559189 Joe A
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Why should Serbia - a non EU country- have to deal with shit started by West in the ME? Not their problem. And if they would have done that then they whole world would fall over them and say "you see, they are a genocidal nation".

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 06:28 | 6559407 Raul44
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Because why do they have a problem with people coming from north to south, when they dont have a problem with same people coming from south to north?

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 10:51 | 6555272 Chuck Knoblauch
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Germany's balls have been cut off.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:04 | 6555338 MoHillbilly
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Trump would have made Serbia pay for the fence, and it would have been a really really fabulous fence.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:12 | 6555389 MoHillbilly
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If one was a inbred racist, one might look at the mass storming of our southern border and at the mass storming of Europe's southern border and think it was a global pincer movement against caucasians

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 12:20 | 6555756 hendrik1730
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Dear, there is a worldwide racist war ongoing against the caucasians. Time to fight back.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:30 | 6555476 BarkingCat
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Germany - always the fucking cunts to fuck up Europe.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:30 | 6555478 gentilhom
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Honestly, I didn't suspect that zerohedge belonged to the immigrationist lobby. Merkel is not heroic, she is following the instructions of the globalised elite for destroying Europe, she doesn't care for these refugees at all.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:37 | 6555515 MalteseFalcon
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This is just a case of the shitty little country trying to give Europe its own Muslim minority problem.

That way Europe will be more sympathic to the shitty little country's plight.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:41 | 6555527 BendGuyhere
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1) FENCES WORK!

2) Germany is dead, it will now descend into nightmarish squalor and chaos. These 'refugees' reproduce like cockroaches, the women are kept like slaves for fucking and dropping the babies. Islam is an utter fucking nightmare religion and Merkel is an absolute traitor!

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 12:18 | 6555743 hendrik1730
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I couldn't agree more. Just look on U-tube the film fragments about HOW these "poor refugees" behave once they are in Germany and also underways. They leave a trail of shit, demolition of infrastructure, they throw away free food offered to them on the road and gang-raping is a daily happening in their camps ( until now, in Scandinavia, gang-raping of local women by those highly educated very cooperative and motivated hard working muslims is since years a PLAGUE - frankly, I don't understand why the Scandinavians still take this shit ). Civil war will come of this.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 12:59 | 6555964 smacker
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Islam isn't even a religion as such. It's a medieval totalitarian system of government and social control masquerading as a religion. Anyone who defies its authority has limbs chopped off, is imprisoned, tortured, or slaughtered in one or other evil ways. It's never progressed.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 11:49 | 6555592 yami
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Look at the lovely ~10 yo refugee somewhere in Austria. Would you have the heart of not letting him in your house? He surely is highly educated too.

http://medzicas.sk/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Maly-terorista.avi

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 12:10 | 6555681 adonisdemilo
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"....could destroy the union"

Which union is that then?

Is that the "union" in the dreams of the so called politicians in Europe or the "union" that is the nightmare of us poor schmucks who have to pay for it.

Fucking idiots.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 13:18 | 6555713 Basilian
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PATRIOTISM ='s Love your Countrymen not your friggin corrupt governments

Strange ANTI - refugee passion for a site that most here understand MATHEMATICAL MAGNITUDE of global financialization.

US people -- your governement is responsible for killing your global reserve currency status that gave all US business a fantastic unfair advantage--this is the greatest act of betrayal POSSSIBLE.Hang them for treason!

Germans - you originally sold all the BAD loans to Greece and trained Greece that they would always get great money deals (drugs) then you encouraged the formation of the Euro to spread out this loss over your neighbors with Goldman Sachs bribing the official that signed it in for the entire population of Greece.

UK - you have always throughout history been a purely financial transaction City of London cancer -- at least the German economy actually is productive and not simply usurious or cleptocratic. Even Winston Churchill said he should have attacked you (City of London) not Germany.

So since most readers here would NEVER argue any of these simple truths of immense MATHEMATICAL magnitude THEN how do we get such a flood of crap comments regarding the plight of humans? These governments do not represent the will or charracter of their people, these governments do not represent capitalism or meritocracy that most here believe in.

WHY do so many here then support their governements that are not patriotic or nationalistic by a long shot? Draw your lines -- grow up. The American empire that dominates the world but drained its own population of wealth -- this is what you believe?

QUESTION: Have you ever met even 1 American that does not want to support and care for your veterans? ANSWER:NO

QUESTION: How can any American support a governement that gives an excuse to not do something that 100% of the people want?

DRAW YOUR LINES!

CURRENTLY THESE GOVERNMENTS 100% SUCK -- THEY ARE ALL 100% BOUGHT OFF.

Do Not Hate your fellow man for them.

DO not ignore mathematical magnitude of financial crimes and become number blind. Bernie Madoff had a lemon-aide stand of fraud

 

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 12:19 | 6555749 Fireman
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Send Pentacon Kill Industries packing from oKKKupied Urupp and let their refugees from all of Zion's bouts of carnage move with the our troopians back to slumville USSA.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 12:23 | 6555755 Oldrepublic
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Back in 2011, Vogue, US ran a piece on Assad and his wife entitled "A rose in the Desert". Today that piece is no longer available on the Vogue site.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/01/the-only-remain...

Atlantic magazine published this on the only remaining copy of that article

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 12:27 | 6555785 Sandmann
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Germany hasn't got any clout in the EU when it comes to this. Take a look at 1683 AD and the Siege of Vienna if you want to understand Hungary and why Jan Sobieski was so important.

Sadly in Anglo-Saxon historical fantasy this event does not register.

It is the poverty of education in US/UK and Germany that means these nations have no conception that Hungary sees itself as holding the pass just as Russia sees itself as having held the Mongols away from Western Europe.

The Narcissism of people like Merkel who lacks a scintilla of History in her education, and was simply the pampered progeny of a system that rewarded her with trips to Moscow and studying non-political subjects to make her life in the DDR easy.......she ran errands for Kohl who hated flying......and she passed the "American Test" to be allowed to hold office in a key satellite state.

Review the info on Franz Josef Strauss who became Defence Minister despite having an SS background, but he was able to order Lockheed Starfighters which killed 110 pilots but at least Lockheed bribed well paying him $10 million. Now it turns out both BND and Stasi had files showing how Strauss turned over air-defence plans to OSS agents in Oct 1944 in Switzerland, so he was clearly approved by the US for his job as Defence Minister in 1961.

Clearly Merkel is working for everyone but the German people. She has alienated Russia - the country that gave her the chance to live in West Berlin by withdrawing from the GDR and Central Europe. She has antagonised Central Europe by overthrowing Dublin II and Schengen; and has antagonised Southern Europe with her policy on Greece of everlasting torture; and she has made it inevitable that the UK will vote to leave the EU to stop lunatics importing millions of North Africans into Western Europe.

She is unhinged now she has no parliamentary opposition with this Coalition controlling 80% seats in the Bundestag

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 12:46 | 6555888 smacker
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Nevertheless, she does appear to have support in the German polls for most of her policies.

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 16:46 | 6557388 Victor von Doom
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Not for long.

"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."

- Victor von Doom

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 13:19 | 6556071 123dobryden
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Slovakia is cleptocracy of the poorest order, nothing that happened there has never had any global impact, if we only could deport our political class and accept half a milion refugees that would help us to rebuild Slovensko...

 

the only greater shithole in CEE is Czech republic :)

Wed, 09/16/2015 - 22:15 | 6558727 hedgiex
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Wed, 09/16/2015 - 22:14 | 6558728 hedgiex
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A global economy with free flows of trade and investments yet with barriers to migration. It would not work even with Seas that are nature's fences. The fiercest tribes shall dominate the lands but how much land do you need when you have cyberspace. The 1% can retreat to gated enclaves with private armies and ensure that markets are played according to their rules. There will be a global multiplication of enclaves in a 2 tier World and the color of your skins do not matter as much as the color of just a few currencies that are just units of transactions and not stores of values. For the average Joe, you either service the 1% or unite to the point of death to bring Change. What's the probability that it will be the latter ?

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