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GOP Debate Post-Mortem: Trump Top, Fiorina Flourish, Carson Crumbles
While Lindsay Graham was a clear winner in the undercard (like being the tallest midget?), the main event was a mosh-pit of anatagonistic self-abuse for The GOP as candidates ran rough-shod over each other and the moderators. Fiorina stood up to Trump (though not too aggressively) and Trump replied how beautiful Fiorina's face was, Paul was bowled over (by Trump), and Trump was ironically dismissed as "a great entertainer" as the debate took place in great entertainer Ronald Reagan's library. It was clear that "the rest" of the GOP field was not about to let Trump dominate... and he didn't but the night was, in one word, chaos. Trump spoke the most as expected and in most polls was voted as 'winner' with Fiorina gaining most.
The top searched candidates from tonight's #CNNDebate: 1) @realDonaldTrump 2) @CarlyFiorina 3) @JebBush
— Google Politics (@googlepolitics) September 17, 2015
CNN's Jeff Zeleny seemed to confirm social media's view that Graham was the undercard winner
Sen. Lindsey Graham had the strongest performance of any candidate in the first debate. Graham topped the talk-time...
- Graham: 19:47
- Santorum: 15:38
- Jindal: 13:06
- Pataki: 10:58
From start to finish, his one-liners delighted the crowd, his command of policy was unmatched, particularly on national security and foreign policy. He exuded substance. And he shows that experience pays. The question is whether voters want that experience. And, of course, whether he will ever be able to debate the full field.
But the bookies sum it all up... Odds to suspend/end campaign by Nov. 1
George Pataki
- Odds pre-debate: 40%
- Odds post-debate: 55%
Lindsey Graham
- Odds pre-debate 42%
- Odds post-debate 42%
Rick Santorum
- Odds pre-debate: 34%
- Odds post-debate: 40%
Bobby Jindal
- Odds pre-debate: 33%
- Odds post-debate: 40%
So Pataki is gone? Which is somewhat comical given Trump's later comment that
"Pataki wouldn't be elected dog-catcher right now"
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The main event started with what felt like an hour of introductions then the big one hit...
The first heads-up was Fiorina vs Trump as she positioned him as a "great entertainer," which is ironic given the debate was being held in Ronald Reagan's (an entertainer) library, but declined to answer if Trump was "qualified" to put his finger on the nuclear button:
- *FIORINA SAYS UP TO VOTERS TO DECIDE IF TRUMP IS QUALIFIED
Then Trump began...
- *TRUMP SAYS RAND PAUL SHOULDN'T BE ON DEBATE STAGE
Which the eye surgeon swung at...
- *PAUL SAYS TRUMP'S ATTACKS ARE WHAT HAPPENS IN `JUNIOR HIGH'
Carson came across quiet again...
Retired Neurosurgeon Ben Carson was surging in the polls coming into Wednesday night’s debate, but he has done little this evening to draw voters to his candidacy. He has had few, if any, memorable statements.
But actually spoke more than last time and managed some good points...
Carson: It's time for the government to get out of the way and let the people decide how they want to run their country #GOPDebate
— PBS NewsHour (@NewsHour) September 17, 2015
Carson: Our children will have no future if we put our heads in the sand #GOPDebate
— PBS NewsHour (@NewsHour) September 17, 2015
Bush had more of a presence that last time but his most notable moment was to Trump's negativity on his brother...
“Your brother’s administration gave us Barack Obama because the last 3 years were such a disaster.”
“It was such a disaster those last few months that Abraham Lincoln couldn’t have been elected,” Trump says at CNN’s Republican presidential debate
Bush opened back-and-forth by saying of Trump: “The lack of judgment and lack of understanding about how the world works is really dangerous”
Bush: My brother kept us safe #GOPDebate
— PBS NewsHour (@NewsHour) September 17, 2015
or put another way...
Here's a quick recap of that Trump/Jeb exchange. #CNNDebate pic.twitter.com/cJr6JMjw1u
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) September 17, 2015
But disappointed his mum...
Sorry Mom
— Jeb Bush (@JebBush) September 17, 2015
Jeb: I smoked weed 40 years ago pic.twitter.com/irRPnpgl14
— POLITICO Video (@POLITICOvideo) September 17, 2015
Trump and Cruz were the most "uncivil" according to US News...
Everyone except for @realdonaldtrump and @tedcruz is being pretty civil right now http://t.co/aaIzvlGY9u pic.twitter.com/LlAEsgaoet
— U.S. News (@usnews) September 17, 2015
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Donald Trump summed it all it in 7 seconds
I think Trump just did all the emoji faces in 7 seconds. pic.twitter.com/hC18pVxKgh
— Jason Mustian (@jasonmustian) September 17, 2015
Responding to Paul, Trump pounded him with "I never attacked him on his looks, and believe me, there’s plenty of subject matter right there.”
But Paul made some good points...
Rand Paul: There will always be a Bush or Clinton for you if you want to go back to Iraq #GOPDebate
— PBS NewsHour (@NewsHour) September 17, 2015
Mid way through, CNN re-ignited the Trump-Fiorina battle...
Fiorina responds to Trump: "I think women all over this country heard very clearly what Mr. Trump said" #GOPDebate pic.twitter.com/LQDAMCDn7q
— New York Post (@nypost) September 17, 2015
The only thing Kasich said was:
- *KASICH SAYS TAX RATES ON CARRIED INTEREST SHOULD NOT BE CHANGED
Trump added:
- *TRUMP ON TAXES: THE HEDGE FUND GUYS WON'T LIKE ME
For a brief moment, there was some agreement with Trump...
“We are the only ones dumb enough, stupid enough” to offer citizenship to babies born in U.S. to parents here illegally “and we take care of the baby for 85 years,” Donald Trump.
Trump says 14th amendment says birthright citizenship “is not correct and in my opinion it makes absolutely no sense”
Rand Paul says “I hate to admit it but Mr. Trump has a point here” and says there’s never been a “direct supreme court case” on children born to immigrants in the U.S. illegally
Carly Fiorina says you “cant just wave your hands and say the 14th amendment is going to go away.” “It will take an extremely arduous vote in congress” and “a long arduous process in court”
Politico offers some inisght with Trump's 7 most memorable debate lines...
1. First words: “I’m Donald Trump. I wrote the art of the deal. I say not in a braggadocious way. I’ve made billions and billions of dollars.”
2. Asked to respond to Carly Fiorina: “First of all, Rand Paul shouldn’t even be on this stage. He’s number 11.”
3. On himself: “Believe me. My temperament is very good, very calm.”
4. On Paul: “I never attacked him on his looks, and believe me there’s plenty of subject matter right there.”
5. On George Pataki: “He wouldn’t be elected dog-catcher right now.”
6. On his multiple bankruptcies: “People are very, very, impressed with what I’ve done. The business people.”
7. A left-handed compliment to Jeb Bush: “More energy tonight. I like that.”
Trump and Bush managed the handshake that Trump and Carson didn't...
Ever-ready gives Humble some skin. https://t.co/qbJW3a19Eo
— Matt Fuller (@MEPFuller) September 17, 2015
And here is CNN's protracted way of adding to ad revenues... POTUS nicknames...
#trueheart #unit1 #secretariat #harley #everready #humble #onenation #angel #gator #duckhunter #justiceneversleeps
— drew olanoff (@drew) September 17, 2015
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As expected, Trump spoke most... more than Paul, Walker, & Huckabee combined
Two hours in, who has spoken the longest? pic.twitter.com/tn3JbcQ4xQ
— Post Politics (@postpolitics) September 17, 2015
Quite different allocations that last time...
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Polls suggested trump was the clear winner...
But the big surge by Fiorina and plunge for Carson was most notable.
As CNN notes, the second Republican debate was supposed to be the one where candidates like Jeb Bush, Scott Walker and other would-be frontrunners ganged up on Trump.
But Trump's greatest antagonist on Wednesday night was Carly Fiorina. Fiorina, who got into the main event at the 11th hour, was aggressive and concise in taking on Trump.
She countered his attacks against her business acumen, challenged his remarks about her appearance, and demonstrated her knowledge of foreign policy -- a slight against Trump's inability to cite specifics in a recent Meet The Press interview.
No one on stage Wednesday night showed as much passion, nor demonstrated as much poise, as Fiorina -- which could yield major results among Republicans who don't support Donald Trump.
And as Google Politics shows, search interest in Fiorina and Trump soared...
Take a look at how @google search interest for @CarlyFiorina & @realDonaldTrump spiked over the past 1.5 hours → pic.twitter.com/cqqsl38WH9
— Google Politics (@googlepolitics) September 17, 2015
We are all winners though...
Let's all agree on this: we all won for having watched this CNN debate.
— Chris Ciaccia (@Chris_Ciaccia) September 17, 2015
* * *
The final results of @Newsweek's #GOPDebate bingo: http://t.co/Lu2XVvBGNj pic.twitter.com/ksVdNjsYP1
— Polly Mosendz (@polly) September 17, 2015
Finally, this excellent tweet summed up the circus perfectly...
The questions being asked at this debate versus the answers pic.twitter.com/nsMjSywzSA
— sam (@samlabell) September 17, 2015
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I just finished watching the debate and WOW!!! was that inspiring!!!
Any one of these candidates could be president! I really liked what they had to say. Especially when they debated foreign policy. Right on the money.
Look, I know we're all a little bit jaded with politics, but all I can say is that we have so many qualified candidates that you shouldn't be ashamed to stand up and say YES! I believe. This country will be great again right after we elect a good qualified no-nonsense individual to the Oval Office. Remember, your vote counts so stay tuned.
I had a good laugh at this statement. Surely it was in jest.
MDB flipping off the ZH'ers.
At least Rand had a few good moments, he did much better in this one than last one.
Rand the Fat Man debating marijuana...every point Chris made about marijuana fits 100% PERFECTLY with Alcohol...gateway drug, destroys lives, addictive, ruins families, clogs our prison system...where's the call to make alcohol illegal and send it users to "alcohol court"?
Jeb Bush admitted to smoking pot...his brother to cocaine and alcohol abuse...
Would they admit, that had they been caught, their wealthy and connected families would have pulled the necessary strings to let them walk free?
One set of laws for them, another for us...NO THANKS JEB...and FUCK YOU TOO!
Huckabee jizzing over the 10th Amendment...States Rights...yeah..
What if the people of a state want 100% legal, all term abortions?
Legalized pot?
Gay marriage?
Oh, no, can't have that...Big Government must step in to enforce "Gods Law"...and cram it down the States Throats...Fuck the States when it goes against my Religious and Personal belief...what a total fucken hypocrite.
Rand should have buried him over that…
Where's Pat Paulson when you need him ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTHge8q0zwY
Trump Toots, Fiorina Farts, Carson Crepitates!
What a bunch of inane bullshit this all is.
"No evening with Trump would be complete without an insult or two aimed at President Barack Obama.
Characteristically, he took a moment to bash Obama during a discussion about his decision not to strike Syira despite having drawn a red line that Syrian president Bashar Assad crossed.
“Somehow he [Obama] just doesn’t have courage. There is something missing from our president,” he said.
hey you, you forgot to ask me if i give two shits? ha...
Anyone else notice the debate fact checks ALL OVER THE SOCIALIST JEW MEDIA?
WHEN did the socialist jew media ever fact check Democrat debates or the Obowelmovement for that matter? IF both parties are the same, someone forgort to tell the socialist jew media.
Lindsey Graham - ZWO ziostooge pedophile 4 u donkeys
carly your record is showing:
"Yale business Professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld said that Fiorina was "the worst because of her ruthless attack on the essence of this great company. ... She destroyed half the wealth of her investors and yet still earned almost $100 million in total payments for this destructive reign of terror."
beats the alternative of having lost 100% wealth with status quo.
Do you mean the same Lindsey Graham that accompanied John McCain to the Middle East and met with Muslim Brotherhood types?
Didn't you get the memo? Democrats don't have debates anymore.
Fiorina? Meh, who wants a POTUS that when leading both AT&T and HP, lost over 50% of their stockholder's investment...
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/yale-professor-carly-fiorinas-business-193...
Fiorina was fucking awful. All she wanted was war and rebuilding the 6th fleet. She called out Jeb for smoking weed, and called Kasich Christie in response to Kasich's answer to a question about Kasich's and Fiorina's Differences.
HEWITT: I'd like to talk about winning because I think all of you are more qualified than former Secretary of State
Clinton, and as were the people in the first debate, but there are different styles, and Carly Fiorina, Governor
Kasich, you're conveniently located next to each other, and you have different styles.
Governor Kasich, you've been on my show a lot. You refused to attack Hillary Clinton, you just don't want to go
there, you want to do the up with people. Go, Ohio, OK, and I like that.
Carly Fiorina, I don't have to bring up the Secretary of State you bring her up, so (inaudible).
Which one of you is wrong? Governor Kasich?
KASICH: Well, look, people still have to get to know me, so I want to spend my time talking about my experience
reforming welfare, balancing budgets, cutting taxes, providing economic growth when I was in Washington, turning
Ohio around. Eight billion in the hole, $2 billion surplus, up over 300,000 jobs, big tax cuts, strengthening our
credit.
All those things matter but, you know, as a young man in my first election in 1978, I defeated an incumbent
Democrat. I defeated an incumbent Democrat in 1982? running on the Reagan program, I was the only Republican in
America to defeat an incumbent Democrat that year.
And then, when I won for election of governor, I was the first Republican to defeat an incumbent in 36 years, and the
first person to have never run statewide out of politics for 10 years to beat an incumbent. That hadn't happened for
96 years.
So, we'll get to the point where we'll talk about Hillary Clinton, or whoever the nominee is, record. But right now, I
want to give people sense of hope, sense of purpose, a sense of unity, sense that we can do it. So...
HEWITT: Governor.
KASICH: You know, at the end of the day, I'm going to continue to talk about my record, because there is, did you
ever notice when people run for office, they run for president, they make a lot of promises, they don't keep them.
HEWITT: Thank you, Governor. KASICH: I don't intend to do that, and I going to be out there pushing it out don't
worry about me and Hillary. That will all work out, and I'm from Ohio. She will not beat me there, I can promise you
that.
(APPLAUSE)
HEWITT: Carly Fiorina, your style?
FIORINA: You see, Governor Christie, people spend time talking about their track records, and Mr. Trump and I
have every right to do the same. And Mrs. Clinton has to defend her track record.
Her track record of lying about Benghazi, of lying about her e mails, about lying about her servers. She does not
have a track record of accomplishment.
Like Mrs. Clinton, I, too, have travels hundreds of thousands of miles around the globe. But unlike Mrs. Clinton, I
know flying is an activity, not an accomplishment. Mrs. Clinton if you want to stump a Democrat, ask them to name
a accomplishment of Mrs. Clinton's.
HEWITT: Thank you, Ms. Fiorina.
Governor Christie, your name was mentioned. I want to give you a chance to respond.
CHRISTIE: Listen, you know, Hugh, it's an important point. And the question is, who is going to prosecute Hillary
Clinton?
Fiorina destroyed HP, ask any engineer or HP employee that worked on HP before she got there and after. The compaq buy out was another desaster, pretty much every major decision she made was a disaster. How a secretary became the CEO of a technology company that used to be the beacon of innovation, really puzzled me, not sure how she got in the big club
I work with a 'laid off' HP Engineer who was let go when she took power at HP. He turns red with anger every time her name comes up. She destroyed that company. And, now running for President. Go figure.
I don't see any threat to Trump. Just a loud mouth feminist.
If she's a feminist, she's as bad of one as she was a CEO.
Have you ever met a "good" feminist? No...?
That's what I thought.
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1017418/hp-buys-gulfstream-vs
I want gun and ammo vending machines next to every ATM.
No, I'm not kidding.
In the words of Rocket in Guardians of the Galaxy - "That's the first thing you said that wasn't batshit crazy!"
You convinced me, I'm writing in "Harry Balzak" for POTUS!
As for this debate...I have only four comments:
1) A totally expected MFM poll putting three of the E-GOP's favorite buttpuppets in the winner column. Graham, Jindahl & Pataki? LOL! I guess picking Jeb would be too obvious a ploy. Santorum is old news, we'll ignore him, most everybody else does.
2) The Drudge poll seems much more honest, though how Carson came in behind Fiorina I cannot explain.
3) Trump had the best quips, that Lincoln jab to Jeb was pure gold.
4) If I base any decision to participate in a pointless rigged political game on anything contained in this post...it would be anybody falling in that upper right corner of the "civility" chart...I'll go all-in on offense/extreme, if wussies call that uncivil so be it, we could use some good 'ol honest uncivil truth now more than ever! So I guess it's down to Trump and Cruz. If you play the game...
What this debate needed was a handful of nailguns.
I just had to add my to tits.
Gotta have tits
oh, and ass
Didn't watch a minute of it. Did anyone mention that we need to end The Fed in order to be a free country again and that everything else is just a distraction from TPTB robbing us blind and enslaving us? Didn't think so.
Exactly:
end the Fed
repeal the Patriot Act
put the Neocons (Hillary and Nuland included) in prison
Until somebody starts talking about doing these things, it's all hot air.
Not to mention the ongoing meme that Assad 'crossed the red line' by gassing his own people. "Your premise is false, sir. Next quesiton"
fire, you win the where the fuck you been these last 20 years award:
"Gay marriage?
Oh, no, can't have that...Big Government must step in to enforce "Gods Law"...and cram it down the States Throats"
it's the feds making gay marriage a right, not the other way around.. as for craming it down the states throats well you are into puns one would guess.
.gov has no business telling us who gets married, or who has to provide services to those homo's who do.
you have no problem with .gov telling us You will bake that cake..come closer fire, you are a fucking fascist.
gotta stay with trump at this point, (did not watch the cnn circus)..he did bring the illegal invasion issue up front and he is not taking pac and k street money (so far)..I have voted in the past for Ron Paul, Rand is not quite the same as Ron..but I would vote for him as well..Ben Carson is a maybe as well ...all the rest seem like the status quo, promise us everything to get elected, then do what K street tells them so no thanks.
Overmed...talking about the exchange between Paul and Huckanut....Huckanut is pro 10th...unless he doesn't agree... 100% remove the feds from the gay marriage issue... then a state wants to legalize gay marriage...Huckanut would not honor the states decision...he'd use Federal power to squash the state to enforce (Huckanuts) "Gods Law".
Abortion isn't the same as pot and gay marriage. Pot and gay marriage are covered under the 10th amendment. Abortion concerns a little human being who has it's own right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Someone should have asked Jeb...you admit to pot use...do you believe we should have jailed you, given you a felony record and destroyed your life over smoking that joint?
Oh, oh...and since you smoked pot, which is addictive and a gateway drug, what drug did you graduate to...and what crimes have you commited while high?
The elites can do any drug and its Ok. But if a commoner even gets a contact buzz from weed, its Reefer Madness!
Jeb admited to Pot use...isn't that a Class D Felony...doesn't that disqualify him from being President?...or is it a crime only if you get caught and don't have the money and/or connections to get the charges dropped?
Jeb doesn't want to be president it's painfully obvious. He's a dope and a pothead.
And pray tell, what is wrong with potheads...?
Firebrander you are kidding right?
Couldn't say who won the debate. Can tell you who lost.... The American people.
Dems won't fare any better. The DNC debates will be like Theatre of the Absurd.
Is this the best a country of 320,000,000 has to offer. I weep for the future.
As bad as it seems, I do promise you that the right people are out there. Politics is a cesspool... they'll come forward when we most need them.
If someone can drain the cesspool the right people will come back.
What U Talkin' about Willis?
Ain't no Great White Buffalo comin' Down to save you and me!!
- Your lead is sniffin paint or attending special parties or in smokey rooms with corporate deal makers.
Yep.
Super I did alwalys believe America always seemed to have the right people at the right time,,,,but I'm skeptical at this point.
I found it boring and stale. It was set up to play getcha with Trump and bolster Bush. They spoke too much and it was the same old rhetoric, no solutions. They are fighting for the scraps that will be left of our country and make me sick.
I agree. What I still cannot get over is that no one called out Bush when he said his brother kept us safe and they all came down on Obama. Now I am no Obama supporter, so don't get me wrong. But 9/11 happened on Bush's watch! They stood there and talked about safety and no one on that stage would point out that is was brother Bush who was on watch during 9-11.
It's so obvious, everyday it's becoming clearer and clearer... TPTB, Oligarchs, Elites, whatever you want to call them have set up the "winner" of 2016 (whoever it will be) to be the fall guy or girl when they implode this whole thing to usher in their New Feudal World Order. We are witnessing history before us, the purposeful destruction of the USA by permanently destroying the middle class, and creating permanent serfs. Slavery is what they have in store for us, and it will be triggered by economic collapse, and enforced by the security state.
It was not a debate. If in doubt, see Webster's, OED, any dictionary.
When we let them dumb down our language, they win.
"Ya wanna play the Dozens and the Dozens is the game - the way I fsck yo mamma is a got d@mn shame!"
Don Rickles was way better at insults than any Politician/Candidate!
Seems our future has come and gone.
Like Uma Thurman said in Kill Bill I, you aint got no future, bitch...
No worries, the financial meltdown and war will force them to postpone the election. We'll be stuck with the Kenyan guy or the Junta until 'stability is re-established'.
I'm beginning to think the Kenyan guy will give over our sovereignty to the UN then become the head of the UN in 2017.
I originally supported Carly...but then I heard she was the CEO of two companies that both went tits up...but after hearing her explain that it wasn't her fault...that it was the fault of evil, hostile, Clinton supporter, men on the boards of those companies..well now, I'm backing Carly again....I just hope there are no hostile, opposing, groups of men in DC...
Please, please, please lift that tube top just a little higher! :>D
I still don't think I have read a single complete sentence of anything that FireBrander has posted. Every time I attempt such an endeavor, I am immediately distracted by thoughts of milk. I just don't get it...
This MDB sounds like he's from the CFR
It ain't about debates. Its about a big, sloppy wet, middle finger to the status quo. The GOP hates Don, they fear he's uncontrollable(in a pick the bones of the taxpayers sense). But their li'l cupcake, Jebbie is fading like a Chessy cat. So much strategy, so much fail.
Outside of Trump, a lot of people seem to grasp the strangle hold of the one party kleptocrat system. He offers one of the only real chances to change. I'm not talking what will happen, just what many believe will happen.
FORWARD SOVIET!
I'd rather be dead than red. if the time ever comes when the government comes after my private property than they will be staring down the barrel of my gun. Come and get me if you dare.
This of course ignores the fact that taxes is essentially the government coming after your private property. So we will have to wait until the rest of the country is finally fed up with the mainstream media, dumbing down of our school system, and the madness mantra that is "one puhsent, one puhsent, one puhsent, one puhsent."
I guess its easier to say than "point oh-one percent"
"Remember, your vote counts so stay tuned."
"I had a good laugh at this statement. Surely it was in jest."
The above is why...
NOT ONE of these MOTHERFUCKERS got anywhere near telling the truth about the "War on Terror".
Only Carson made sense on the issue...all the other Fucks want more troops, more war...it ain't worken fuckheads!
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Jeb on why it was a good idea to go into Iraq and Afghan..."People wanted retaliation"...real fucken nice...vengeance as a strategy usually fails badly...
The sooner Jeb shuts the fuck up and goes back to whatever rock he crawled out from under, the better.
it's working for the WAR PROFITS... if bombs were free there would be no war
And we didn't even attack the alleged country who allegedly sent the alleged terrrrists! That'd be like you punching me in the face and to retaliate I go kick your neighbor's ass.....everyday.......for 12 years.
To his credit, Rand Paul was the only one to criticize Saudi Arabia last night.
no Rand would be in the bunker with Carson.... Do you people really think just letting the world go hell in a handbasket won't affect us....REALLY?
I'm almost certain that Lindsey Graham was spawned from satan's ass. He's pretty much the most openly evil of all the candidates in terms of his support for totalitarian legislation. As far as the others go, I would trust them about as much as I would trust any Democratic candidate.
You said that on the other thread. But if this was repulsive, nauseating, or unbearable, just think what a Dim debate would be like.
Hmm... I must have watched a different debate.
"Lindsey Graham showed a command of foreign policy" mm-hmm, just like "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran...". Anyone who thinks we just need lots and lots more war in the world can sign up and suit up. Robert Louis Stevenson said "eventually everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences" must ring a bell for the countries with hundreds of thousands of war refugees who were out of sight/mind for years building in their millions in refugee camps and now Oh look your country is now responsible for them. Yummy banquet.
We need more war because, at some point, when we've killed enough "terrorists", everyone else will embrace "Freedom and Democracy"...hang in there, maybe another 10 or 20 years and we'll get there!
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Did you catch Jeb saying the 'terror war' was "going to be protracted"...lot's and lots more war! FUCK YOU JEB!
Sad that Trump is on that band wagon too...
Is that you MDB?
Is this me?
I must be smoking the wrong stuff. What is it you have there?
Didn't know Americans were into sarcasm.
We have Total Email and Electronic Surveillance, so why not Draft/Impress those citizens who vote for war monger Republicans into a force(not Farce) to fight the Saracens overseas (300 Miles off our coast, but repelling the illegal immigrants and unauthorized personnel who enter our waters)
- Well I might be a kind of soft hearted person, but we have to repel the invaders and fight the Transnationals that use global labor to suppress US Middle Class Wealth
- Saracens are coming
- Refugees are coming
- Terrorist for revenge are coming
- CEOs and CIOs are coming to take down our Transnationals
- CFOs are recognized as the most likely to corrupt the Banks or Transnationals, but we don't' monitor them or track their decisions
- People = Cost to Government
- People = Cost to Social Security and Medical Care in the most expensive countries of the world, the Western Countries
You can't justify the Public Debt or Public Expense of Refugees in the Millions.
It doesn't happen. What happens is Riots, Pogroms, and War to camouflage the Financial Problems and the State Debt/Private Corruption.
It's just come to the point where the majority wants someone else to fix the problem for them...
5150
Are you trying to beat out MDB_?
Oh fuck no.
I've got more important things to do than watch WWF tag team wrestling.
American psychopath, GET AWAY FROM ME!
I like your style
I wish there was a way to enlarge your profile pic...you know...for research
Are those tire marks on those speed bumps?
What happened to Deez Nutts? Did he get caught in traffic?
Deez Nuts remains gloriously independent. Unfettered by party affiliation, swaying to and fro, ever ready to release a stream of righteousness the likes of which petty politics has never seen....
Like Dusty Rhoades ??
The only prez candidate to have attended a semenary?
Glad you said it! But it's true, and while there he learned that if you spare the rod you spoil the child....
Rand Paul offers the only true alternative for change and individual rights. All the rest would be more of the same -- deep pocketed lobbyists and neocons running our nation.
All sucking Israel cock. Everyone of these blowhards.
my mother thinks that there is a muslim in her back yard waiting to kill her......of course she watches fox news
Shhh...I can see her thru he window now as I remain silent behind the rose bush. Allah Akbar!
Red arrow! What, now you gotta problem with rose bushes, mother fucker?!
Have you checked? Better hurry or there will be 10 Muslims in her backyard, for real, planning an invasion of her house.
Grandpa thinks a Tea-Partyin' gun nut is going to shoot him in the back of the head at the movie theater because Obama is a negroid.... Of course he watches CNN.
cnn should change their name to ZNN..........zionist network news..........does the tea party have a Think tank like PNAC?
It probably wasn't Fox News.
She probably went to Costco, stared at a Muslim woman in a head veil, and then got followed home by an offended jihadist with a dagger in his teeth who IS IN FACT hiding in her back yard.
Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean that they're not out to get you.
I paint my doorjambs with bacon grease.
Like garlic to vampires.
my mother thinks that there is a muslim in her back yard waiting to kill her
Tell her don't worry, there is a dot gov electric eye in the sky watching her every move.
On the 10 dollar bill question
@crkmccabe: Name a woman. Literally just name any female. #CNNDebate #GOPDebate http://t.co/rPEhhVQ7W5
It has to be Brucelyn Jenner. Because these are the End Times.
And Frank Luntz is a low class slob.
Fuck you Frank!
7 years later and that still isn't old.
Ted Cruz for manipuresident! Clearly the most sane choice.
Lloyd would agree.
buncha neo-zio-con hogwash
was some serious military spending spree hoo-ha going on there.. but what to do about Social Security going bankrupt?? EVERY FUCKING THING IS BANKRUPT ALREADY and they can't just print another 8 trillion for Social Security?
The MIC is currently hashing out a proposal showing that it would only cost 7.5 trillion to develop anti-american ordinance.
The new weapon system will be called the Revoker.
Paul did the best, Cruz is whacko, Christie is annoying, Trump is still a clown with no idea what is going on - hes just having fun
Here's a sanity test for you, mareuki:
What IS going on?
He's in a presidential debate saying what will or will not be but not how it will come to be. He has no plan, just rhetoric more so than others. Hes only trying to be outrageous and shocking
that was last debate... you probably didn't pay attention to this one... and he has a plan to win which is the first step of any of the bullshit they want to do right?
Or we can go have tea with Ron Paul and bitch about sound money for another 40 years
You know that point in a Barnum and Bailey show where all three rings have clowns, elephants, horses, lions and trapeze artists and shit is all happening at the same time and you don't know where to look?
That's what's going on.
What's going on is Stockman looking better by the minute.
Went straight to the comments on this one.
I watched 15 minutes of it, and I'm not a guy who watches TV much, or follows politics much.
Marco Rubio is a fucking tool, and others on the dais didn't impress me when it came to foreign policy, either. So out of touch with what's going on in the world, and the scariest part for me is I think some of those brain trusts actually believe what they say.
Rubio is a fucking tool.
Trump is a fucking dousche nozzle.
Huckabee is a fucking choad.
Fiorina is a fucking dickhead.
Christie is a fucking pig.
Bush is a fucking asshat.
Kasich is a fucking clown.
Cruz is a fucking dildo.
Walker is a fucking shitstain.
The only ones I have respect for are Paul and Carson. Because they are doctors. This doesn't mean they should be president.
well then who?
How about none of the above for a change?
It couldn't be any worse than this pack of hapless turds. That's hope and change you can believe in.
As much as I despise CNN, I have to give them credit for giving the candidates time, and making them banter with each-other.
I learned a few things. Fuax News SUCKS!
Rupert Murdoch is a fucking idiot, and has completely destroyed the WSJ.
My 2cents worth, Bitchez
I, for one, am glad Smelly Kelly was not there defending vulgar, fugly Rosie O'Donnell.
So far, Trump is the ONLY candidate who has mentioned how horrible the USA infrastructure is; everything from slow post service to potholes to cracked bridges, he has addressed the issues saying they deserve priority.
The others concentrate on MIC. The Dems are in left field pandering 100% to the FSA and aliens and Hitlery and Sanders stress more taxes and moar bailouts and more expansive spending.
So I am sticking with Trump right now.
Definitelly, MORE of everything, even decease. Trump is lost
funny how there was not ONE mention of monetary policy the entire nite.......it matters not who you stick with...when you attach interest to your medium of exchange, the collapse is built in........trump cannot reverse that..........nor can he slow it down.........in fact his policies will only accelerate it.....
"in fact his policies will only accelerate it...."
We don't need no water, let the motherfucker burn.
Burn motherfucker, burn.
funny how there was not ONE mention of monetary policy the entire nite.......it matters not who you stick with...when you attach interest to your medium of exchange, the collapse is built in........trump cannot reverse that..........nor can he slow it down.........in fact his policies will only accelerate it.....
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which is what many of us want
vote trump
+1 the problem is DC Politicians can't even mention some issues like we live in Movie Idiocracy.
Trump is like my jooish aunty, he talks like an aunty, he was coached by an aunty, he lives in a world of auntys.
But compared to the Idiots in Federal Politics, Trump is the most natural, confident, independent Leader.
And Independent Leader is what we need!!!
- USA is dead
- USA lost it's US Congress
- USA lost it's integrity
- USA lost it's Law-fighting arms
- USA lost it's Honor
- USA Foreign Policy is Fascist
- USA Superpower Vision is also Fascist and hugely Expensive/Debt producing Policy/as well as supports a culture of Secrecy, Cronyism, Networking of oldboys, and provides incentives for operating outside of the original US Constitution
- Integrity counts
- Principals count
- Moral Count
- Recognizing foreign Sovereigns Count
- Recognizing Domestic Sovereigns of Citizens Counts
awe inspiring..pedantic bullshit. surprise - none of this shit matters. if we make it to Jan '17, do any of you believe that any of these jokers will actually make any significant changes? maybe I'm beyond jaded, but I just didn't 't see the answer on stage tonight. truth be told, I'm voting for Rand, but his pro-Israel stance makes even that a difficult choice
Fuck Israel... funny how old school Brooklyn Jew Sanders is the least Zionist running for anything these days
So many people just can't seem to realize the "candidates" are just a bunch of terds. Some have peanuts, some have corn, some smell of bad burritos, but they all, like the current President Camacho, are just talking pieces of shit, ready to drill you in the ass at a moment's notice... and not even offer a courtesy reach around.
Something does not seem right about letting one Bozo The Clown guide millions of Americans into the shitter for eternity, eh.
Carson screwed the pooch when he said social media executives that are worth 10 billion after their VC scam IPO should pay the same rate as hard working Americans who struggle to keep their family secure.
Carson seems to be one of those really dumb very smart people.
Three words: Business Tax Deductions
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I thought it was really awesome that QE, ZIRP, NIRP, federal debt, global debt, corporate debt, debt funded share buy-backs, deflationary pressures, commodity crashes, and the slowdown in global trade (ie, the reason we haven't been killing eachother since WW2) were not brought up.
I'm glad we could focus that portion of the debate on gay marriage instead. That was fun.
If you pay attention to Michael Hudson you would know that you conceal that weapon for use on a liberal. No sense in spooking them before the main event.
Trump and Paul would be the only ones to go there. I might add Christie to that short list but as NJ relies heavily on the financial industry I am doubtful.
But, they did discuss who should be on the $10 bill, like that's something everyone should be concerned about.
Funny thing is, I bet if you surveyed 100 voters, nine out of ten of them wouldn’t know or give a shit who’s on the $10 bill now.
What a circus.
One of them said something about kicking Jackson off for Hamilton or some shit. Fucking national bank ass kissing Hamilton.
Whoever wrote this article must have watched a different debate than the one just completed on CNN. I can't believe ZH can be that far off base and inaccurate.
Debate? What debate? I watched a real long serial political advertisement tonight.
yes .........a 3 hour ad for isreal.........
Even putting Thatcher on US currency was not as disgusting as that.
if any of them are elected go full retard MIC stawks.. hell just lobby for Defense dollars yourself and make $80 Million saying you manufacture freedom
If voting really mattered, it would be made illegal.
What a lying bunch of neo-con pole smokers.
AIPAC sitting in recliner laughing at what we call 'elections'.