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Authored by Philip Giraldi, originally posted at The American Conservative,

It has frequently been alleged that the modern Turkish Republic operates on two levels. It has a parliamentary democracy complete with a constitution and regular elections, but there also exists a secret government that has been referred to as the “deep state,” in Turkish “Derin Devlet.”

The concept of “deep state” has recently become fashionable to a certain extent, particularly to explain the persistence of traditional political alignments when confronted by the recent revolutions in parts of the Middle East and Eastern Europe. For those who believe in the existence of the deep state, there are a number of institutional as well as extralegal relationships that might suggest its presence.

Some believe that this deep state arose out of a secret NATO operation called “Gladio,” which created an infrastructure for so-called “stay behind operations” if Western Europe were to be overrun by the Soviet Union and its allies. There is a certain logic to that assumption, as a deep state has to be organized around a center of official and publicly accepted power, which means it normally includes senior officials of the police and intelligence services as well as the military. For the police and intelligence agencies, the propensity to operate in secret is a sine qua non for the deep state, as it provides cover for the maintenance of relationships that under other circumstances would be considered suspect or even illegal.

In Turkey, the notion that there has to be an outside force restraining dissent from political norms was, until recently, even given a legal fig leaf through the Constitution of 1982, which granted to the military’s National Security Council authority to intervene in developing political situations to “protect” the state. There have, in fact, been four military coups in Turkey. But deep state goes far beyond those overt interventions. It has been claimed that deep state activities in Turkey are frequently conducted through connivance with politicians who provide cover for the activity, with corporate interests and with criminal groups who can operate across borders and help in the mundane tasks of political corruption, including drug trafficking and money laundering.

A number of senior Turkish politicians have spoken openly of the existence of the deep state. Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit tried to learn more about the organization and, for his pains, endured an assassination attempt in 1977. Tansu Ciller eulogized “those who died for the state and those who killed for the state,” referring to the assassinations of communists and Kurds. There have been several significant exposures of Turkish deep state activities, most notably an automobile accident in 1996 in Susurluk that killed the Deputy Chief of the Istanbul Police and the leader of the Grey Wolves extreme right wing nationalist group. A member of parliament was also in the car and a fake passport was discovered, tying together a criminal group that had operated death squads with a senior security official and an elected member of the legislature. A subsequent investigation determined that the police had been using the criminals to support their operations against leftist groups and other dissidents. Deep state operatives have also been linked to assassinations of a judge, Kurds, leftists, potential state witnesses, and an Armenian journalist. They have also bombed a Kurdish bookstore and the offices of a leading newspaper.

As all governments—sometimes for good reasons—engage in concealment of their more questionable activities, or even resort to out and out deception, one must ask how the deep state differs. While an elected government might sometimes engage in activity that is legally questionable, there is normally some plausible pretext employed to cover up or explain the act.

But for players in the deep state, there is no accountability and no legal limit. Everything is based on self-interest, justified through an assertion of patriotism and the national interest. In Turkey, there is a belief amongst senior officials who consider themselves to be parts of the status in statu that they are guardians of the constitution and the true interests of the nation. In their own minds, they are thereby not bound by the normal rules. Engagement in criminal activity is fine as long as it is done to protect the Turkish people and to covertly address errors made by the citizenry, which can easily be led astray by political fads and charismatic leaders. When things go too far in a certain direction, the deep state steps in to correct course.

And deep state players are to be rewarded for their patriotism. They benefit materially from the criminal activity that they engage in, including protecting Turkey’s role as a conduit for drugs heading to Europe from Central Asia, but more recently involving the movement of weapons and people to and from Syria. This has meant collaborating with groups like ISIS, enabling militants to ignore borders and sell their stolen archeological artifacts while also negotiating deals for the oil from the fields in the areas that they occupy. All the transactions include a large cut for the deep state.

If all this sounds familiar to an American reader, it should, and given some local idiosyncrasies, it invites the question whether the United States of America has its own deep state.

First of all, one should note that for the deep state to be effective, it must be intimately associated with the development or pre-existence of a national security state. There must also be a perception that the nation is in peril, justifying extraordinary measures undertaken by brave patriots to preserve life and property of the citizenry. Those measures are generically conservative in nature, intended to protect the status quo with the implication that change is dangerous.

Those requirements certainly prevail in post 9/11 America, and also feed the other essential component of the deep state: that the intervening should work secretly or at least under the radar. Consider for a moment how Washington operates. There is gridlock in Congress and the legislature opposes nearly everything that the White House supports. Nevertheless, certain things happen seemingly without any discussion: Banks are bailed out and corporate interests are protected by law. Huge multi-year defense contracts are approved. Citizens are assassinated by drones, the public is routinely surveilled, people are imprisoned without be charged, military action against “rogue” regimes is authorized, and whistleblowers are punished with prison. The war crimes committed by U.S. troops and contractors on far-flung battlefields, as well as torture and rendition, are rarely investigated and punishment of any kind is rare. America, the warlike predatory capitalist, might be considered a virtual definition of deep state.

One critic describes deep state as driven by the “Washington Consensus,” a subset of the “American exceptionalism” meme. It is plausible to consider it a post-World War II creation, the end result of the “military industrial complex” that Dwight Eisenhower warned about, but some believe its infrastructure was actually put in place through the passage of the Federal Reserve Act prior to the First World War. Several years after signing the bill, Woodrow Wilson reportedly lamented“We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”

In truth America’s deep state is, not unlike Turkey’s, a hybrid creature that operates along a New York to Washington axis. Where the Turks engage in criminal activity to fund themselves, the Washington elite instead turns to banksters, lobbyists, and defense contractors, operating much more in the open and, ostensibly, legally. U.S.-style deep state includes all the obvious parties, both public and private, who benefit from the status quo: including key players in the police and intelligence agencies, the military, the treasury and justice departments, and the judiciary. It is structured to materially reward those who play along with the charade, and the glue to accomplish that ultimately comes from Wall Street. “Financial services” might well be considered the epicenter of the entire process. Even though government is needed to implement desired policies, the banksters comprise the truly essential element, capable of providing genuine rewards for compliance. As corporate interests increasingly own the media, little dissent comes from the Fourth Estate as the process plays out, while many of the proliferating Washington think tanks that provide deep state “intellectual” credibility are similarly funded by defense contractors.

The cross fertilization that is essential to making the system work takes place through the famous revolving door whereby senior government officials enter the private sector at a high level. In some cases the door revolves a number of times, with officials leaving government before returning to an even more elevated position. Along the way, those select individuals are protected, promoted, and groomed for bigger things. And bigger things do occur that justify the considerable costs, to include bank bailouts, tax breaks, and resistance to legislation that would regulate Wall Street, political donors, and lobbyists. The senior government officials, ex-generals, and high level intelligence operatives who participate find themselves with multi-million dollar homes in which to spend their retirement years, cushioned by a tidy pile of investments.

America’s deep state is completely corrupt: it exists to sell out the public interest, and includes both major political parties as well as government officials. Politicians like the Clintons who leave the White House “broke” and accumulate $100 million in a few years exemplify how it rewards. A bloated Pentagon churns out hundreds of unneeded flag officers who receive munificent pensions and benefits for the rest of their lives. And no one is punished, ever. Disgraced former general and CIA Director David Petraeus is now a partner at the KKR private equity firm, even though he knows nothing about financial services. More recently, former Acting CIA Director Michael Morell has become a Senior Counselor at Beacon Global Strategies. Both are being rewarded for their loyalty to the system and for providing current access to their replacements in government.

What makes the deep state so successful? It wins no matter who is in power, by creating bipartisan-supported money pits within the system. Monetizing the completely unnecessary and hideously expensive global war on terror benefits the senior government officials, beltway industries, and financial services that feed off it. Because it is essential to keep the money flowing, the deep state persists in promoting policies that make no sense, to include the unwinnable wars currently enjoying marquee status in Iraq/Syria and Afghanistan. The deep state knows that a fearful public will buy its product and does not even have to make much of an effort to sell it.

Of course I know that the United States of America is not Turkey. But there are lessons to be learned from its example of how a democracy can be subverted by particular interests hiding behind the mask of patriotism. Ordinary Americans frequently ask why politicians and government officials appear to be so obtuse, rarely recognizing what is actually occurring in the country. That is partly due to the fact that the political class lives in a bubble of its own creation, but it might also be because many of America’s leaders actually accept that there is an unelected, unappointed, and unaccountable presence within the system that actually manages what is taking place behind the scenes. That would be the American deep state.

 

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Fri, 09/18/2015 - 22:30 | 6567921 Tyrone Shoelaces
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We need to spend all those trillions because they hate us for our freedumbs.  And stuff.

 

Of course it is bullshit, we already spent more on 'terror' than WW2.  No end in sight.

 

 

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 22:41 | 6567950 38BWD22
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"Public Interest", bwa ha ha.

Stop thinking public interest, and start thinking "private interest" instead (ie, ZH-ers ought to look out for No. 1).

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 22:56 | 6567988 McMolotov
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"Always look out for number one, and be careful not to step in number two." —Rodney Dangerfield

We're waist deep in number two at this point.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:03 | 6568007 rehypothecator
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"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:12 | 6568035 Implied Violins
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...If I had a rocket launcher...some sonofabitch would die. - Bruce Cockburn

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:02 | 6568276 Majestic12
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"...If I had a rocket launcher"

As valid today as it was so long ago...still want one.

Cheers!

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 06:42 | 6568598 negative rates
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We know who these people are, the grade A students of catholic, jewish and british desent. They are such a legend in their own minds that they can do no wrong, No matter what they do or think, they proved it with their bank accounts.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 11:43 | 6569060 TBT or not TBT
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The Deep State's most effective agents are members of the public sector unions, such the one IRS operatives belong to.  No bonus credit for guessing which party they direct their campaign contributions to.  Nearly 100%D.   Another big big Deep State contributor and nest of pro government zealotry is of course universities and colleges, and not just government ones.   The central government took over student loan fiance and drove a tuition bubble for a very good reason.  

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 14:07 | 6569399 Martian Moon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3xgjxJwedA

Latest on 911 by James Corbett

Educate yourself

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 19:34 | 6570153 All Risk No Reward
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This is all you need to know to prove, beyond all doubt, that the official pile driving narrative is false.

The reality is that anyone can OBSERVE that the top of the building DID NOT DO WHAT A CUE BALL DOES EVERY SINGLE TIME IT HITS ANOTHER BILLIARD BALL - the top of the building did not decelerate.

It did not decelerate because IT DID NOT HIT THE LOWER SECTION OF THE BUILDING. For if it had hit the lower section of the building, IT WOULD HAVE DECELERATED.

The official story never addressed this point. They wisely stopped their investigation at the initiation of collapse. That was no accident.

AitT - Sir Isaac Newton Weighs in on the World Trade Center North Tower Collapse Official Narrative
http://www.weaponsofmassdebt.com/index.php/blog/aitt-sir-isaac-newton-we...

Now, some people will attack either me or this factual, observable, and repeatable information based on their programmed "crimestop" response...

crimestop - Orwell's definition: "The faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. In short....protective stupidity."

http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/ns-dict.html

But what nobody will do - because they can't do it - is to explain a physics based scenario where the top of the building hit a structurally solid lower section of the building WITHOUT DECELERATING.

There are NO CONTRADICTIONS in reality. One leading blogger claimed he had done lots of research that showed the official story was correct.

But what he didn't do before he stopped the conversation (smart subconsciousness!) was to explain how the top of the building could have hit a structurally sound lower section of the building without experiencing marginal deceleration.

This is the video that needs to replace all the complex theories that are too easily dismissed by the masses.

No, make the masses exclaim the physics equivalent of 2+2=5 in order to continue believing in the Debt-Money Monopolist false narratives engineered to damage ordinary people across the globe.

Sun, 09/20/2015 - 07:53 | 6570989 Martian Moon
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A 5 minute classic from Corbett for official government "conspiracy" buffs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgrunnLcG9Q

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 07:56 | 6568662 roddy6667
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"If I had a rocket launcher...".

Wasn't that a Peter, Paul, and Mary song way back when?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 05:35 | 6568552 . . . _ _ _ . . .
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There are many publics who each have their own interests.

The auction goes to the highest bidder.

This is called lobbying.

Even though the elections go to majority rule, the individual issues go to a very small and wealthy minority.

We pick the DJ, they pick the songs.

This is called democracy.

Shut up and dance boys and girls, and help yourselves to the kool-aid.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:22 | 6569306 NeoLuddite
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Elections are just advance auctions of stolen goods.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 00:08 | 6568158 junction
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"Deep State" operatives killed Michael Hastings and Philip Marshall.  Whether Paul Walker was also killed by the "Murder, Inc." - type agents of the "Deep State," to make flaming car crashes look normal,  is an open question.  When Tennessee Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV)employee Katherine Smith died in a flaming car crash in 2002, her death was called a murder (still unsolved) because a Tennessee state trooper driving behind her saw her car explode into flames before going off the road.  Smith was the DMV employee who sold driver's licenses to Arabs, licenses they used to identify themselves when they did work on the sprinkler systems at the World Trade Center before 9/11.  Sprinkler systems which all did not work on 9/11, even though they were ruggedized after the 1993 WTC truck bombing.  And who can forget the California policeman, on a 100% disability pension, who turned up in Orlando, Florida as the FBI agent who murdered a martial arts associate of Boston Bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev.  The guy murdered had just undergone knee surgery and could only walk with a cane, yet he supposedly lunged at this crooked FBI agent, illegally collecting a disabilty pension tax free of some $60,000 a year.  The initial report from the agent said this guy had a sword cane but that report was false.   

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 00:50 | 6568246 Rusty Shorts
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Flying J

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:03 | 6568279 Majestic12
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"Flying J"

Careful, this is bat country!

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 03:58 | 6568485 Scooby Dooby Doo
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For those keeping a watchful eye on the evil-doers in deep state be sure not to miss:

http://secretspaceprogram.org/about

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 06:59 | 6568608 chubbar
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My thoughts exactly. The secret space program explains many of the issues raised in this article.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 07:03 | 6568610 Scooby Dooby Doo
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The elites breakaway culture financed off the backs of the working people! Once it becomes clear what is going on it will be too late.

They have perfected and weaponized zero-point energy. It will be used on "The People".

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 09:05 | 6568724 shovelhead
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 That sounds almost as unpleasant as Madonna sending hidden Kabbalah messages into my brain via radio waves.

Sun, 09/20/2015 - 03:12 | 6570828 Moustache Rides
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The Disney movie Tomorrowland is all about a breakaway culture.  It's very interesting to watch and analyze, i.e. read between the lines, what this movie presents. 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:51 | 6568916 Victor E. Overbanks
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Austin is one of the largest domestic spook-houses outside of langley and NYC.

Exhibit A) Bill Hicks a.k.a. Alex Jones

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 12:11 | 6569119 Ms No
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Ohio is real spooky too.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 14:57 | 6569509 Buckaroo Banzai
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Eastern Ohio is known as a major center of satanic activity.

Sun, 09/20/2015 - 03:13 | 6570829 Moustache Rides
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That Bill Hicks = Alex Jones disinfo is total bullshit.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:26 | 6569318 Raging Debate
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Scooby - Look to 'inner space' for intelligent aliens because that is where they are. Frankly, if such wanted us all dead there wouldn't be a wit we could do about it. Fortunately, the theories point toward benevolence. 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:01 | 6569265 Clycntct
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Trying to vote you up and my tinfoil must be a bit to tight.

it's seems locked at 28 up and 3 down. All others seem to be functioning?

And I seem to be getting this browser lag when entering keystrokes and such?

I'm gonna steep up to heavier foil.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:28 | 6569323 Raging Debate
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Junction - One must be carefuo not to declare war on governments. Pubmic awareness can be helpful to all for reform but one should be wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove regarding increasing posterity as an objective.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 07:11 | 6568615 doctor10
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Politics is merely the entertainment wing of the MIC/Anglo-American Central Banking junta.

Has been since November 23rd 1963. Reagan required a 22 cal message to that effect after he thought he'd been elected President.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 14:59 | 6569515 Buckaroo Banzai
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George HW Bush gave him a little tickle in the ribs to remind him who was really boss.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 08:35 | 6568693 JRobby
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We will never know how much was really spent on anything. But CB manufactured inflation will always equal more.

Much of Vietnam in the beginning was paid for by secretly diverting $$ from "research". But the list goes on endlessly.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 22:32 | 6567923 kliguy38
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Of course I know that the United States of America is not Turkey. But there are lessons to be learned from its example of how a democracy can be subverted by particular interests hiding behind the mask of patriotism.

 

no of course its not Turkey......its a hundred times worse

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:25 | 6567986 Ignatius
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Yes, to be clear, Turkey did not corrupt the US, the tail is not wagging the dog in this case.  According to FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, Turkey can't take a pee without permission.  Sibel didn't say this as an insult to Turkey, but to emphasize the real politik of the relationship, the world and American empire.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 00:11 | 6568167 Ms No
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Turkey's deep state is our deep state with some local players.  This is going global, I thought everybody knew that.  Turkey has been a vassal for the Ziocons as long as anyone can remember and they are one of many.  Most of our presidents seem to prefer the term The New World Order.  It's funny how people snicker about that term but I didn't catch a grin off of any of our presidents going back to Bush I snickering about it when they mention it in their State of the Union addresses and this current clown is not an exception.

It's quite real and not at all funny.  People need to take a look around they have even spelled it out for you.  What do these guys have to do send us our own eulogies?  Lets just hope that while everybody else is trying to figure this out that we don't end up getting too familiar with our torture state.

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 05:24 | 6568547 MSimon
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Everybody (well a lot of people) at ZH know who the front men are. And they get all the attention. Which is exactly what front men are for.

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Israel is a British creation. The Balfor Declaration.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-07/bed-despotic-house-saud#comment...

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 14:21 | 6569430 Martian Moon
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So was every other modern state in the region a British / French creation

They ruled the place, drew some lines on a map, voila!

So what is your point exactly?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:05 | 6568283 Majestic12
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"no of course its not Turkey......its a hundred times worse"

All the campilobacter and ecoli...I hate Turkey!  I'm glad there is someone else who feels the same way!

Stupid fucking birds....they drown in the rain....

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Fri, 09/18/2015 - 22:33 | 6567926 Soul Glow
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America is in deep shit as are all governments run by central banks neo-Keynesian fascist economic policy.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:19 | 6568294 Majestic12
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"America is in deep shit as are all governments run by central banks neo-Keynesian fascist economic policy."

I got you on the "deep shit" and "run by central banks", but lost you on "Keynesian Fascist economic policy".

ZH is full of half truths and obfuscation. 

I do not agree with much of Keynes, but most here support Von Mises (the Rockefeller Foundation product) and the London School of Economics.

These "institutions" are profoundly contradictory, corrupt and were born of the 00001%.

At least Keynes decried relying soley on monetary policy and "supply side" economics.

Most here have only known "supply side" (Reagan and after), so they have nothing to  compare it to.

Listen to boomers talk of the 60s and 70s...there were always jobs, it didn't take 2 earners, it didn't take a degree, everyone took vacation, and the "information" deluge ended at 11:00pm until the next morning.

And, you really didn't have to lock your doors, unless you lived in urban Chicago, NY, LA any other huge metropolis.

So, it was all "Keynes"'s fault?

Keynes, who promoted "demand-side" and "fiscal policy"...really?  Fascist?

Remember, there are 94 Million people out of the work force...but the poulation is 100 million more than in 1977, and the dollar was worth 70% more.

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 02:54 | 6568415 r00t61
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You "don't-blame-Keynes"-ers are even worse than the "it's-all-Bush's-fault"-ers.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 08:50 | 6568606 nmewn
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Yes, Keynes had fascist tendencies (as he revealed to the entire world in the foreword of the German edition of his General Theory) and in what space/time continuum is the dollar worth 70% more than it was in the 70's? 

Again...

"The theory of aggregate production, which is the point of the following book, nevertheless can be much easier adapted to the conditions of a totalitarian state than the theory of production and distribution of a given production put forth under conditions of free competition and a large degree of laissez-faire." Lord John Maynard Keynes (German Edition)

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Well, I see Krugman is up early this morning...lol.

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Shhh. Be vewy vewy quiet. I'm hunting Keynesians.

Three so far ;-)

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:26 | 6569313 Bay of Pigs
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You want answers point at the FED, not Keynes or Von Mises.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt377DV2BKs

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 22:36 | 6567931 Salah
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Seminal piece on the US 'deep state': http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/21/anatomy-of-the-deep-state/

Why the Clintons & Obama are both CIA.   No-doubt-about-it. 

2nd Big Question: why was the CIA rushed into existence (bill signed in an airplane at end of National Airport by Truman) 45 days after the crash at Roswell?

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 00:32 | 6568210 Urban Roman
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Because little green men with antennas on their heads.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 09:45 | 6568779 Kickaha
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Don't be ridiculous.  They don't have any antennas.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:05 | 6568281 Freddie
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David Rockefeller as a young man was an OSS officer in WW2.  Mi6 is the Red Shield.

They are just instruments of terror used by the elites,

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:12 | 6568289 TeethVillage88s
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Right You Are My Frightful Star,

- Moody Blues

Interesting lyrics to be found there.

Scorching this Earth, Scorching this Earth.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:35 | 6568316 Majestic12
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"2nd Big Question: why was the CIA rushed into existence 45 days after the crash at Roswell?"

I am glad you asked.....the CIA's involvment was temporary.

The NSA (who now administers the black space program) began as the Armed Forces Security Agency, just 2 years later in 1949.

In '52, they became "official" and architected the DUMBs and tunnels plan to accomodate alien interaction, secret development of technology (that gave us the transistor, LEDs, fiber optics, composites, AI and qunatum computing), and coordination of "defense" plans.

When the DoD stood up and declared last year that they can't account for $8.5 TTTTTrillion dollars....people just scratch their heads and turn the channel.

Many are involved, many are selling us all out, and they can stop it all.

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 05:38 | 6568554 MSimon
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And here I thought the guys at Bell Labs invented the transistor. Based on semiconductor work on diodes used as radar detectors. The path seems pretty clear to me. And then there was the guy (Lillenthal)  who got a patent on the field effect transistor in 1927 although the tech to produce it was not developed until the early 50s - an outgrowth of the transistor work started in '48. 

But hey. If you like LGM as an explanation for transistors - enjoy.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 09:36 | 6568768 unitwar
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Bill Moyers?  I wonder why he doesn't report on those Bilderberg meetings he attends?  He reports what he is told to report.  Everything he does is a limited hangout.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 22:34 | 6567932 VWAndy
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Back and to the left.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 22:39 | 6567946 A Lunatic
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I'm coloring outside the lines, Bitchez........

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 22:41 | 6567949 Usurious
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the french called the guillotine the national razor.........just sayin...

monica jewinsky was a honey pot.....just follow the jewBucks....

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 22:42 | 6567954 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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And MASTER OF UNIVERSE manages the Deep State.

 

 

C  H  E  C  K  M  A  T  E

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:38 | 6568317 Majestic12
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" C  H  E  C  K  M  A  T  E"

Damn!  Curse you MOU!

Do over?

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:20 | 6567960 Youri Carma
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Of course we know that the United States of America is not Turkey, it's worse because it consists of several different layers of deep state entities. The NSA, CIA, FBI, DEA, Homeland Security, the Naval Intelligence, the Pentagon, the Freemasons, Skull & Bones and the Satanists just to name a few.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 22:57 | 6567973 JustObserving
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The Deep State runs everything in America since at least Nov 22, 1963.  Kennedy promised to shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.  Instead, the CIA shattered his brains into a thousand pieces.

The NSA spies on the Supreme Court, Congress and the White House and you.  

The most extraordinary passage in the memo requires that the Israeli spooks “destroy upon recognition” any communication provided by the NSA “that is either to or from an official of the US government.” It goes on to spell out that this includes “officials of the Executive Branch (including the White House, Cabinet Departments, and independent agencies); the US House of Representatives and Senate (members and staff); and the US Federal Court System (including, but not limited to, the Supreme Court).”

The stunning implication of this passage is that NSA spying targets not only ordinary American citizens, but also Supreme Court justices, members of Congress and the White House itself. One could hardly ask for a more naked exposure of a police state.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/09/13/surv-s13.html

 

Essay: Anatomy of the Deep State

There is the visible government situated around the Mall in Washington, and then there is another, more shadowy, more indefinable government that is not explained in Civics 101 or observable to tourists at the White House or the Capitol. The former is traditional Washington partisan politics: the tip of the iceberg that a public watching C-SPAN sees daily and which is theoretically controllable via elections. The subsurface part of the iceberg I shall call the Deep State, which operates according to its own compass heading regardless of who is formally in power.

http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/21/anatomy-of-the-deep-state/

Who rules America? 

 

The secret collaboration of the military, the intelligence and national security agencies, and gigantic corporations in the systematic and illegal surveillance of the American people reveals the true wielders of power in the United States. Telecommunications giants such as AT&T, Verizon and Sprint, and Internet companies such as Google, Microsoft, Facebook and Twitter, provide the military and the FBI and CIA with access to data on hundreds of millions of people that these state agencies have no legal right to possess.

Congress and both of the major political parties serve as rubber stamps for the confluence of the military, the intelligence apparatus and Wall Street that really runs the country. The so-called “Fourth Estate”—the mass media—functions shamelessly as an arm of this ruling troika.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/06/10/pers-j10.html

 

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:24 | 6568065 Ignatius
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It's a big club, and we ain't in it.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:39 | 6568320 Majestic12
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"It's a big club"

No, a club has ham...and Turkey.

Its just Turkey.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 00:56 | 6568261 Lyman54
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The US has had a Deep State since the early 1960's at least.  Fletcher Prouty has an excellant book called The Secret Team.  Well worth reading.  JFK and The Unspeakable by James Douglas is a good read on the subject as well.  Peter Dale Scott covers the deep state in several books as well.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 17:40 | 6569132 JustObserving
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For someone who knows so much, you should be posting a lot more.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 12:21 | 6569133 JustObserving
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The postman always rings twice. Or, the NSA is shadowing me.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:01 | 6567994 SamEyeAm
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"There is gridlock in Congress and the legislature opposes nearly everything that the White House supports."

Is this guy living in the same world I am?  Boehner, McConnell, McCarthy, McCain, Graham and all their knucklehead followers in the House and Senate have given the White House just about everything it has asked for! Some of the statist RINOs are moving to the left of the dummocrats.

 

WTF ??? How can any sane person make that statement?

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:05 | 6568011 Never One Roach
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Newt Gingrich recently called these do-nothing republicans some bad names but he said none of them represent Americans anymore; just big interests. He also mentioned what you said they let Obama roll over Congress every step of the way.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 00:49 | 6568242 Christophe2
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Newt Gingrich.  LOL.

He is so different from those other politicians - I mean, just look at how he tends to replace his wives when they are ill or aging - just like a car!  He is a deep thinker, alright.  So logical?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 00:54 | 6568257 Hohum
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Mr. Moon Colony knows.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:05 | 6568014 samsara
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Study critical reading some more.

The second part of that statement wa;

..."Nevertheless, certain things happen seemingly without any discussion:..."

He was pointing out the seemingly disparate realities of the two.  Noting that is because the whole kabuki theater is a single orchestration. 

The paragraph made perfect sense and diagrammed what he intended splendidly.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:55 | 6568134 TheEndIsNear
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Easy enough to do since our prostitute politicians are so easily bribed.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 04:25 | 6568503 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Nevertheless, I just don't think I would ever use the word "splendidly". It's just not in my vocabulary.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 08:55 | 6568709 vinny vici
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Glad to see you picked up on that one; I choked on it too.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 18:33 | 6570036 TeethVillage88s
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Bought and Paid for Bitchez!!

The pose and act for the cameras saying they don't like Obama Care, but they're on the Take!!

They don't oppose the Money.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:00 | 6567999 Salah
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Watch for the old Mexican presidential econ-collapse gambit....a trick they learn'td from south of the border.

For 60+ years the Mexican 1-party state apparatus, the PRI, pulled off this shit every 6 yrs.

It looks to me the Gringo PTB have taken note, at least in 2000, and 2008

The dumb-shit-we-deserve-to-get-fucked 99% have fallen for it twice now


Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:09 | 6568009 Ima anal sphincter
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dakxwoVV7yM

Just like a warden who rules his prisoners with absolute control and violence, our government cares not for the people they govern. Their only concern is the continuation of the corrupt money flows and the acceptance of murdering millions of innocent people as a way to maintain their power.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:53 | 6568345 jmcoombs
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Institutions, left unchecked, eventually come to worship themselves. The Catholic Church during the Spanish Inquisition is a sterling example.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 05:42 | 6568558 MSimon
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How can you possibly fault them? They didn't like Jews. They must be blameless.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:14 | 6568034 Mempo of Twilight
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You are telling me that an Indonesian Muslim graduated from Harvard can not reach the highest office on the back of his own ability and that he is just an errand boy sent by the Zionist bankers to do their dirty work for them ?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 05:43 | 6568559 MSimon
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Moslem Bankers don't get no respect.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:12 | 6568036 enloe creek
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All this matters not a bit. They can't grow corn  and they can't  make me do it either we are all going to starve

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 04:43 | 6568511 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Do you think these Deep State-rs have a honeypot website that we could visit? And don't tell me Stratfor...

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 05:44 | 6568561 MSimon
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You are here.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 06:38 | 6568591 Scooby Dooby Doo
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No, not their disinfo site. Their real site.

We can handle it, and we won't talk about The Fight Club. Promise.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:27 | 6568070 BernankeHasHemo...
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Ordinary Americans are not asking themselves jack shit. They are vegging on the couch with their meth and food stamps watching Dancing With the Stars. AmeriKKKa is a nation of idiot losers who deserve to be put into slave labor camps by their Chinese masters and used for dog food.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:59 | 6568353 Majestic12
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"AmeriKKKa is a nation of idiot losers who deserve to be put into slave labor camps by their Chinese masters and used for dog food."

Hmm, orrrrr we could begin to speak about it more and help them "see" whenever possible.

There is a theory called the "Hundreth Monkey" theory that was observed in an island setting.  In short, monkeys who had no knowledge of a skill learned by other monkeys on a separate island, suddenly started perfroming that skill unexplainably.  There was no actual "number" identified as the critical mass event for change, but none the less, the study has been repeated with the same results.

This tells us that there is more to humans than we "see or hear".  Your thoughts are broadcast into the flux field of radiant energy (see Einstiein).

Without sounding like I am wearing purple cotton shakti pants wth hair weave dreadlocks, there is a way that all of us can start the ball rolling just by thinking.

It is real, we do have "free will" and we can stop this if we "all" try. 

You're not Chinese, by any chance are you?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 02:03 | 6568362 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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The irony about racists is that they are the same everywhere, regardless of skin color.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 06:30 | 6568520 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Too many minds casting thoughts into the flux about keepin' the black man down. Same thing here. The snow white dogs get to sleep on the bed, black and browns are outside in the dog house.
Crackers.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 08:00 | 6568666 Sparkey
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I agree with you Majestic, We do communicate, unconsciously, before we developed language all communication was unconscious, that is still in place just not recognized nor controllable by conscious means, you can't consciously use it to lie to people!

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:28 | 6568072 will ling
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just hope to put some of them up against wall and/or on gallows. revenge really is sweet - most practioners will tell ya.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:50 | 6568128 yogibear
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What happened to all those bags of money that were in Iraq that disappeared?

So much fraud. In the government and in the banking/financial areas.

Mark to fantasy accounting.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:50 | 6568335 Majestic12
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"What happened to all those bags of money that were in Iraq that disappeared?"

That was only $8 BBBBBillion in cash....chump change.

Remember last year the DoD stated that they cannot account for $8.5 TTTTTTTTrillion.....

1 Billion = One Thousand Millions.

1 Trillion = One Thousand Billions.

If your head has stopped spinning, then please, tel me....what could they spend $8.5 TTTTrillion on?

Remember, all the wars to date are paid for in the "open" and "public" military budget...so this is "extra"....

Now maybe you can see why some of us here take whistle blowers seriously about a secret space program.

Engineers, secret construction hangars and bases ain't cheap....the shoe fits.

So, there are a shit load of "Amercians" taking a big paycheck to help the elite and off-world assholes plan our demise.

I don't know how you feel about "sell-outs", but they make me think of guillotines.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:33 | 6568871 Ms No
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I haven't seen that 8.5T figure do you have a link for that?  Wouldn't surprise my any.  As far as the comment higher on the thread there are no little green men harassing us if anyone thinks so they should probably read some Jacque Vallee and John Keel.  Jacque Valee is a PHD computer scientist, involved in artificial intelligence design and an astronomer who develped the first computerized mapping of mars for NASA as well as many other accomplishments. 

Both Jacque and Keel came to the same conclusion after studying the supposed UFO/Alien subject for decades.  Jacque documents is work better but Keel who was formerly a journalist for the AP also used to write for mens magazines and is a great writer and funny as hell.  It takes Jacque like 8 books to say what Keel says in one and Keel came to the conclusion first. 

You may also want to look into the purchase of "the Skinwalker Ranch" in the four corners area by a company called "Bigelow Aerospace" and their admission of the activities going on there and what their "proprietary" purpose there was.

What was their conclusion after a combined 60+ years of research?  There is something going on it isn't alien, it has always been here and it can appear as whatever it wants.  It is parasitical in nature and predatory and no sane person will ever believe it until they see it.           

"I abandoned the extraterrestrial hypothesis in 1967 when my own field investigations disclosed an astonishing overlap between psychic phenomena and UFOs ... The objects and apparitions do not necessarily originate on another planet and may not even exist as permanent constructions of matter. It is more likely that we see what we want to see and interpret such visions according to our contemporary beliefs."-Keel

"The 'medical examination' to which abductees are said to be subjected, often accompanied by sadistic sexual manipulation, is reminiscient of the medieval tales of encounters with demons. It makes no sense in a sophisticated or technical framework: any intelligent being equipped with the scientific marvels that UFOs possess would be in a position to achieve any of these alleged scientific objectives in a shorter time and with fewer risks." -Vallee

I read Keel every Holloween, his writing is addictive and I am nearly finished with all of his works both on this topic and others.  He kept detailed documentation of the backgrounds of people whom he referred to as "percipients" (people who have seen things) you want to guess what race or religious group that he noticed was markedly absent in the class of percipients? 

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 19:17 | 6570130 DipshitMiddleCl...
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Those demons and sadistic people he's referring to are Askenazi "jews" or what I call myself (A Khazar)

 

 

Thanks for this comment, I am going to look into it more.

Sun, 09/20/2015 - 03:26 | 6570838 Moustache Rides
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The gnostics called them the archons.  Carlos Castaneda's Don Juan called them the flyers.  There is a wealth of information out there about these parasites.  There is a book called The Mind Parasites by Colin Wilson which is presented as fiction although it provokes alot of thought.

 

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:57 | 6568138 q99x2
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Nice article. In the nineteen 30s someone finally assassinated one of the CEOs of the major banks and the destruction of the nation stopped until WWII. I think I saw the documentary on Youtube but I can't remember now. Eventually they will begin preying on each other. FRAUD only goes so far until they become their own victems.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:59 | 6568142 Atomizer
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Time to go to bed Zero Hedge family. Mrs. Atomizer is getting cranky for me to shut off the computer. I wanted to leave you with a Friday night boost of laughter. turn up the volume. See you bitchez in the morning!

Mortgage Thrift Shop (Macklemore WALL STREET parody ...

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 00:07 | 6568161 Usurious
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good nite

John Coltrane

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmD16eSy-Mg

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:41 | 6568324 Majestic12
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"good nite"

Oh, a civilized man!  [tips hat and raises glass]

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:59 | 6568143 Atomizer
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Time to go to bed Zero Hedge family. Mrs. Atomizer is getting cranky for me to shut off the computer. I wanted to leave you with a Friday night boost of laughter. turn up the volume. See you bitchez in the morning!

Mortgage Thrift Shop (Macklemore WALL STREET parody ...

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 00:04 | 6568153 TeethVillage88s
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hm, US Military people might be better suited to interpret the Political Moves in Washington and Wall Street.

Where does that leave us?

- Defacto VICHY DC Military Type Operations and Psy-Ops are the Norm
- We have to look to Rural People, Military People, and Associates of Military people to read the tea leaves in the NYT
- Equals we must have help from the military since the MSM are not our friends in investing or in Logic, Philosophy, History, Military Events, or Freedom/Liberty/Equality/Sovereignty/Accountability/Financial Ratings/Financial Transparency at Universities,Cities,states,federal agencies, and surely the business world/corporations/banking is all full of fraud, accounting fraud, and financial fraud

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 03:14 | 6568447 OldPhart
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Believe it or not, not all businesses and accountants are crooked.

We're so clean that when the county called to arrange a property tax audit on one of our entities I suggested they cover all fifty at the same time.  Same with Sales Tax Auditor who just left (we're squeaky clean).  I've had perfect audits for over eleven years, and the auditors have access to any information they desire.  We have a morning meeting were we even tell how much cash was deposited at the bank, how much was billed, collected, the amount over 90 days old...and employees have the opportunity to tell us, right there, who in management, fucked up and how it affected their daily tasks.

However, we're privately owned, so you can't invest in us.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 07:40 | 6568638 cherokeepilot
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If that's all true, then Ihave to say well done you Oldphart!  You and your company are to be commended.

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 00:33 | 6568214 jcdenton
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Some believe that this deep state arose out of a secret NATO operation called “Gladio,”

 

Well it's more than logical, more than plausible ..

This Deep State arose out of ........................ you figure it out for your own sake, and convince yourself. I'll just assist ..

Directive 166

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/09/22/fraud-on-the-u-s-supreme-court-b...

The Deutsche Verteidigungs Dienst (DVD)

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/04/neo-so-much-more-than-nukes/

http://wantarevelations.com/2014/01/wanta-plan-macro-financial-economic-...

Tesla's Assistant

http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20070405.htm

(do a quick search for "Jesuit" and see how many hits you get. Notice who the DVD answer to.)

Go here: https://app.box.com/s/hfgvcqg7gqh7i27at6sv53ywu87lwarp

Go to Rulers of Evil, pg. 170. Start reading from Adam Weishaupt. Now you know the purpose of the creation of the United States of America ..

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 00:45 | 6568234 opport.knocks
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"...invites the question whether the United States of America has its own deep state."

LOL ...and where  did the $2 trillion that Rumsfeld announced was missing on Sept 10th 2001 end up?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 00:46 | 6568237 monad
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Its worse than you think. They are aligning all these forces to hack us to pieces, old world style. Get busy.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 05:50 | 6568565 MSimon
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They just collected 3,500 blades for some little old lady. So now they have the tools.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 00:52 | 6568249 Rusty Shorts
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THE ROLLING STONES LYRICS  

"Brown Sugar"

Gold coast slave ship bound for cotton fields
Sold in a market down in New Orleans
Scarred old slaver knows he's doing alright
Hear him whip the women just around midnight

Brown sugar how come you taste so good?
Brown sugar just like a young girl should

Drums beating, cold English blood runs hot
Lady of the house wonderin' where it's gonna stop
House boy knows that he's doing alright
You shoulda heard him just around midnight

Brown sugar how come you taste so good, now?
Brown sugar just like a young girl should, now

Ah, get along, brown sugar how come you taste so good, baby?
Ah, got me feelin' now, brown sugar just like a black girl should

I bet your mama was a tent show queen
And all her boyfriends were sweet sixteen
I'm no schoolboy but I know what I like
You shoulda heard me just around midnight

Brown sugar how come you taste so good, baby?
Ah, brown sugar just like a young girl should, yeah

I said yeah, yeah, yeah, woo
How come you... how come you taste so good?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, woo
Just like a... just like a black girl should
Yeah, yeah, yeah, woo   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B0Y3LUqr1Q
Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:28 | 6568309 TeethVillage88s
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we often have mixed feeling in art and music.

What did this boy feel, knowing that we all have different interpretations of art, feelings, politics, lobbying, lawyers influence, press releases, MSM Internet, and peers, parents, uncles & Aunts, and family pressures.???

Humanistic Feelings and Motivations?

Greed, Jealousy, Covetousness, Guilt...

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 05:19 | 6568544 Bearwagon
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THE VELVET UNDERGROUND LYRICS

"White Light White Heat"

White light, White light goin' messin' up my mind
White light, and don't you know its gonna make me go blind
White heat, aww white heat it tickle me down to my toes
White light, Ooo have mercy while I'll have it goodness knows

White light, White light goin' messin' up my brain
White light, Aww white light its gonna drive me insane
White heat, Aww white heat it tickle me down to my toes
White light, Aww white light I said now goodness knows, do it

Hmm hmm, White light
Aww I surely do love to watch that stuff tip itself in
Hmm hmm, White light
Watch that side, watch that side don't you know it gonna be dead in the drive
Hmm hmm, White heat
Hey foxy mama watchin' her walk down the street
Hmm hmm, White light
Come up side your head gonna make a deadend on your street

White light, When I moved in me intween my brain
White light, White light goin' makin' you go insane
White heat, Aww white heat it tickle me down to my toes
White light, Aww white light I said now goodness knows

White light, Aww white light it lighten up my eyes
White light, don't you know it fills me up with suprise
White heat, Aww white heat tickle me down to my toes
White light, Aww white light I tell you now goodness knows, now work it

Hmm hmm, White light
Aww she surely do moves me
Hmm hmm, White light
Watch that speed freak, watch that speed freak everybody gonna go and make it every week
Hmm hmm, White heat
Aww sputter mutter everybody gonna go kill their mother
Hmm hmm, White light
Here she comes, here she comes, everybody get 'n gone make me run to her

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd9H9cRC2gY

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 00:56 | 6568259 Ms No
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I think Hitler was right about one thing, most people cannot see the big lie, it just seems to complex to them and thus ludicrous.  Just look at a small portion of a military you have cores, divisions, brigades, betallions, generals, colonals, companies, Air Force, Navy, Special Forces, intelligence, espionage, propaganda depts, indoctrination depts, etc, all under one umbrella of centralized control. 

Is it really that hard to believe that a organized self serving entity who has had plenty of time and very little opposition can grow to a gargantuan empire that nearly global in scale? 

Two good reads among at least a hunderd that prove otherwise Sibel Edmonds and Tales of an Economic Hit Man.    

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:02 | 6568277 Lyman54
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Sybil Edmond's Classified Woman should be required reading in school like George Orwell's 1984 was.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 02:10 | 6568374 RichardParker
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Just looked up Sybil Edmonds.  Holy shit.  I'm surprised they haven't whacked her.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 07:18 | 6568617 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Also, this should be required learning.

The Greatest Story Never Told
https://www.youtube.com/user/TGSNTtv

Uncensored by Youtube here:
http://www.tgsnt.tv

Don't let your Hollywood Spielberg conditioning prevent you from balancing your education.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 08:18 | 6568678 overmedicatedun...
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one ponders : with all we have now learned about NSA and data mining by various abc agencies of the great satan and lesser western .govs..that anyone obtaining an airline ticket via travel agency or on line has been screened long before showing up at the airport, yet we are led to believe that these high school drop outs of the TSA team, are there to protect us..LOL they only serve to promote the police state. duh.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 14:45 | 6569479 Scooby Dooby Doo
Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:25 | 6568305 tumblemore
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"most people cannot see the big lie, it just seems to complex to them"

 

I think it's more to do with not being sociopaths.

 

People tend to think other people are like them so say the average person can only tell level 6/10 lies before they feel ashamed then they have a hard time believing other people can tell level 10/10 lies. They couldn't do it themselves so it's hard for them to imagine other people being that shameless - hence the bigger and more shameless the lie the more likely it is to be believed.

 

Only part-sociopaths can see it.


Sat, 09/19/2015 - 11:36 | 6569047 Ms No
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There maybe an element of that occuring because a psychopath can identify another path emediately which would lead one to believe they may be able to identify their activities as well but over all there is something else going on. 

There most cetainly is something different about people who can go against the grain and challenge common propaganda but it isn't a lack of empathy.  Some people are more resistant to endoctrination and we really don't know why.  We do know that there has been a large amount of research on and use of subliminal technology and trauma disassociation.  I would hazard a guess that there has been a ton of research on this subject that we will probably never see.

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:33 | 6568315 tumblemore
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The thing about the deep state idea is generally they exist to keep the members in power *and* keep the state in question strong in the long-term so that power is worth something.

 

What's odd about the US deep state is it doesn't seem to care about the long term at all and seems only really interested in selling America piece by piece.

 

For example from their behavior it's pretty blatant now that lobbyists have bought the GOP's foreign policy position but the dark side of that is it probably means every other aspect of policy is for sale also.

 

It's like the US deep state is living off the capital rather than the interest.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:55 | 6568350 JR
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“On 9/11/2001, America received its new Pearl Harbor”…to strike fear into the hearts of Americans and pave the way for the perpetrators’ profitable and soul-destroying global “war on terror”... Enough is enough! “There are at least 8.5 trillion reasons to investigate the money trail of 9/11” and to end the perversion of law that has bolstered the power of those who hold the reins in Washington, DC, and use the law, perverted, as a weapon for every kind of global control and personal greed! 

NEW VIDEO: 9/11 Trillions: Follow The Money

Maori Warrior 1 week ago

One of the best documentaries on 9/11... "The first suspects of a big crime should be those who benefit from it."

Published on Sep 11, 2015

TRANSCRIPT, SOURCES AND MP3: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=16167

“Forget for one moment everything you've been told about September 11, 2001. 9/11 was a crime. And as with any crime, there is one overriding imperative that detectives must follow to identify the perpetrators: follow the money. This is an investigation of the 9/11 money trail.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3xgjxJwedA&feature=youtu.be

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 18:17 | 6569998 TeethVillage88s
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Free speech petitioners told they'll be 'locked up' at DuPage; Students need permit ...

- Debbie Washerman-Schulz proves, we better sit down and shut up, no more than 4 Debates allowed by her Elitist Buddies!!

- FCC, FEC, NSA, Cyber Command Combine with DHS to censure and track internet content

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:52 | 6568343 RichardParker
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Engagement in criminal activity is fine as long as it is done to protect the Turkish people...

I call bullshit on this one.  More like engagement in criminal activity is fine as long as it is done to preserve/enhance the Turkish government's power.


Sat, 09/19/2015 - 02:08 | 6568371 dexter_morgan
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We are essentially Shabbos goy doing Israels dirty work and sending our kids to die for their cause - when will Americans wake up to that and demand it be stopped?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 02:19 | 6568382 TeethVillage88s
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Eine Gutte Fragge.

Sehr Gut.

Jetz Deuschtland ober alles.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 05:27 | 6568549 ddsoffice
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Ja, diese ist eine gutte fragge. Aber, es ist wie die 'Jetzt Neue Deutschland' uber alles vielleicht seit WWI! (Yes, this is a good topic. But, it is like the 'New Germany Now' perhaps since WWI!)

(laughing now that I still remember some of my high school German lessons over 25 years ago.)

 

Eine Gutte Fragge. (A good topic)

Sehr Gut. (Very good)

Jetz Deuschtland ober alles. (Now Germany over all)

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 17:56 | 6569947 TeethVillage88s
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Rothschild Merges Germany, France, Belgium, Nederlands, Switzerland, Italy, England, with Canada, USA, Australia, New Zealand, Carib Banking Centers.

What if the Crazy Link to London Financial markets is also Israel, and all of Europe?

Much of Rothschild History is know up to the 20th Century I guess except for the Ties to England and why the USA went to war in WWI, WWII, and why England didn't agree to discuss peace terms or end to hostilities with Hitler.

Sun, 09/20/2015 - 01:35 | 6570758 ddsoffice
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Here is an interesting link that synopsises the history of the Rothschilds

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_rothschild_bloodline.htm

I think 'Crazy Links' can be inferred very well by connecting biggest financial interests, banks and companies and being an open minded student of history both mainstream and through unconventional sources helps too despite kernels of truth sometimes being hidden within disinformation.

See also: http://www.militaryindustrialcomplex.com/

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 05:54 | 6568568 MSimon
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You are so right. And extraordinarily able. You have no trouble identifying the front men. Which is so difficult.

 

And since you are so smart. Could you tell me the purpose of a "front man"?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 05:06 | 6568533 tumblemore
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unbelievable

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 03:12 | 6568445 sTls7
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There is no mystery here...  lol.  the 'deep state'... lol...    it's the people with money in control.  GEEEEEZZZZZZ. For God sakes.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 08:23 | 6568684 Horseless Headsman
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It's not only about money. Power is the drug of choice at the highest levels, and you can't have too much.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 06:10 | 6568582 krage_man
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Thare are various terms for this - deep state, elite, etc.

But ultimately, current political system so-called democracy is far from original definition of democracy. And I dont mean that original "greek" democracy is the better one.

This is a feature of modern democracy to pretend to be old-fashioned  peoples democracy. This is to make sure people do feel their power to elect (ans they have it to a degree)

This is a feature of modern democracy to have 2-3 alternative parties. Each is more attractive to a certain human personality category. This way each can find something to associate with and be associated against. This means satisfaction of citizens with having a choice even though the choice is created for them based on 2-3 major types of their personalities.

All 2-3 parties are really backed by this deep state or elite institution which manages all things behand the curtain. For instance, foreign policy basixally ghe same no matter which party has power.

Political elected officcials do not really manage the affairs, they commmunicate but the final decisions are not theirs but come deep from the state departments which are receiving instructions from deep state.

Elected president is supervised by a vise president with direct access to deep state. He would take state affairs in his hands if the president is not cooperaring or incapacited ( could be related)

Deep state controls 95% of mass media via proxy corporations. A special mass-media department of the deep state issues directives to the editors of mainstream TV/news media.   This department coordinates with other depaetments like  one managing foreign affairs linked or even located in official state department. One may notice a delay when a certain major events take place and mass media delays reporting by 24-48 hours while waiting for the right spin of the reporting to the nation.

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 07:11 | 6568614 overmedicatedun...
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it's odd in a republic that when

: 70% of public were for secure borders the fed government made them more open.

when 90% of the public was against TARP, why not only was tarp done, but riders were added to make Paulson immune from all legal authority.

after 911 americans were told TSA of HLS would inspect suspected terrorists at airports, so of course grandma was stripped and anal probed along with 2 year olds, of white skin and european ansestry..

might just be a deep state power structure, bunky.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 17:49 | 6569920 TeethVillage88s
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Yeah why the HELL would Congress agree to pay management fees to TBTJ for cleaning up 2008 Financial Crisis.

18 U.S. Code Chapter 115 - TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES

§?2381. Treason
§?2382. Misprision of treason
§?2383. Rebellion or insurrection
§?2384. Seditious conspiracy
§?2385. Advocating overthrow of Government
§?2386. Registration of certain organizations

18 U.S. Code Chapter 96 - RACKETEER INFLUENCED AND CORRUPT ORGANIZATIONS

§ 1961 - Definitions
§ 1962 - Prohibited activities
§ 1963 - Criminal penalties
§ 1964 - Civil remedies
§ 1965 - Venue and process
§ 1966 - Expedition of actions
§ 1967 - Evidence
§ 1968 - Civil investigative demand

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 07:27 | 6568624 Last of the Mid...
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Deep State infers some sort of secrecy. This is all out in the open now. Shit you can't get a politician to answer a question without parsing it to infinity. Every network on the planet is running anti Trump segments in some form or other. It's obvious he scares the status quo shitless. What do you think black lives matter was. It was a propaganda effort, nothing more, nothing less. Best example of those with the money control history that has happened  in the last 100 years.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 07:34 | 6568625 yogibear
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"partly due to the fact that the political class lives in a bubble of its own creation"

Been to Washington DC during 2008,2009 and 2010, during the depths of the downturn.

Business could not have been better.  Top resturants had lines to get in during Mondays and Tuesdays.

And this was when congress was out of session. DC is a a Money hub, where lobbyist

do their backroom deals with the political elite.

Knew of Defense contracting people that were always flying out their to meet with military representatives.

These people ate at fine resturants, loved the travel and very large expense accounts, why not, the government/taxpayer paid for it.

 Seemed like unlimted taxpayer money.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 07:33 | 6568627 atlasRocked
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Spot on Zero.    Well proven in my book, Atlas Shouts, hope you'll take a look at it:

Think of it as an Erin Brockovich-style investigative report .... which exposes economic pollution.  Erin found out the people profiting from the chemical pollution - factory investors - despised her, the local factory workers hated her, the tax collectors whose tax base was threatened hated her.  But her findings were eventually celebrated as they realized how unhealthy the situation was for everyone.

Atlas Shouts is a 5.0-star book about economic pollution, about poisoning the town's economic well.  And it explains how to fix it.   All done in a manner and organization which the common citizen can understand and digest. 

http://www.amazon.com/Atlas-Shouts-Modern-Patriot-Action/dp/1458217566 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 07:40 | 6568640 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Bad form.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 07:42 | 6568644 overmedicatedun...
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John, nice to see you post. how does the "deep state" fit into your book, as in a secret cabal runs the show, so changing those in the public .gov is never getting at the deep state? or am I wrong?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 09:25 | 6568719 withglee
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Well proven in my book, Atlas Shouts, hope you'll take a look at it:

I pulled a Kindle sample. If it's good, I'll buy it.

Update:

From quick look at contents:

1.5 Two Camps of Economists Economics has devolved into a war

Lofgren, John. Atlas Shouts:: A Modern Patriot Calls for Action (Kindle Location 438). Abbott Press. Kindle Edition.

This is not a good sign. Have you noticed that things always seem to fall into two camps? Ever wonder why just two? Well, it's because they are wedge issues. It's about divide and conquer. In almost all cases, the real problem or solution is not to be found with the two alternatives given.

Your "well proven" comment is also not a good sign. Educators use comments like that when in fact there is no proof at all.

In this case you have fallen into the Keynesian vs. Mises (Hayek) trap. Both are totally misguided economic philosophies.

As we're really talking about time wasted (to read the details in the book) which overwhelms the $10 wasted, I'll wait for your defense.

I just hate the amount of time I've wasted on Mises nonsense. Didn't waste that much time on Keynesian nonsense as their policies have been in use and have obviously (and predictably) been failures.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 17:42 | 6569901 TeethVillage88s
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Seems a smart guy. Corruption seems his focus.

He makes ZH type points that double talk and corruption ruins any examination of the systems we live under.

Also he seems to guide us to really learn what our Economic Role Models really said and did.

- I wonder if US Citizens can name one Economic Role Model at all

Sun, 09/20/2015 - 10:09 | 6571146 withglee
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Seems a smart guy. Corruption seems his focus.

Sunshine is the best antidote to corruption. Show me his sunshine.

He makes ZH type points that double talk and corruption ruins any examination of the systems we live under.

I only had to spot read a few pages to see that he is just a Mises bible scribe regurgitating their version of "Earth is the center of the universe" prophesy. If you don't know that money is "obviously" a promise to complete a trade", you're surely not going to understand an economy and how it behaves.

Also he seems to guide us to really learn what our Economic Role Models really said and did.

How much of a roll model do you need to do addition and subtraction?

- I wonder if US Citizens can name one Economic Role Model at all

I would hope not. One does not exist. How can a complete area of discipline that claims to be a science be so clueless about the principle object of their study ... money. Can you imagine physicists debating ohms law and failing to come to agreement?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 07:41 | 6568641 Latitude25
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Interesting that Turkey is mentioned.  When I was in college my room mate was a Turkish guy who was definitely from the .001%, second richest family in Turkey.  He said that turkey has 100s of years of experience keeping the masses occupied with one war or another and that the economy could not run without it.  He also liked chasing the most beautiful blondes he could find and with his money he sure found them.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 08:30 | 6568685 teutonicate
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ZH!

"Deep State", really?

This sounds like another attempt to run cover for the cabal.

The only thing "deep" about the so called "Deep State" is the degree to which the cabal has been successful at keeping the American people in the dark about who is actually in control.

Who is the cabal?

1. Liberal jews (with communist and cultural marxist tendencies, e.g. ADL and SPLC types) who look out for ONLY jews

2. Conservative jews (with fascist tendencies, e.g. Neo-con and Zionist types) who look out for ONLY jews

3. Traitorous non-jews who collude with them to sell out their own peoples for money and power 

That’s the complete membership list.  It’s not very complicated.  Obama is a puppet of Group 1. and Bush was a puppet of Group 2.

And right now, the American public is being treated to a whole new batch of "kosher" political candidates, be they Republicans or Democrats.

Why do you think every one of our Fed Bank Chairmen in recent history has been tribal?

Time for some tough journalism on this issue ZH.

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 08:39 | 6568699 overmedicatedun...
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teuton, if what you say is true, why are there any poor jews? some facts such as the fed chairs being all jews are true, but there is a line where you become nuts" it's all the jews"

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 08:40 | 6568700 overmedicatedun...
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John, you are silent? wheres your solution to the deep state?? or are you just not so bright?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 08:55 | 6568704 teutonicate
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Thanks for your response OMD.

Please note the following about my post.

1) It never says that ALL jews are part of the cabal.

2) It never says that ONLY jews are part of the cabal.

My words were chosen very carefully.

This said, any objective observer of the current situation would have to admit that jews are a dominant force in a cabal that is in control of American to its detriment.

If they are not in control, why do some of them brag about it?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 09:00 | 6568713 overmedicatedun...
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teutonicate, thanks , we can eliminate you from the list of those obsessed with jews are the cause of every evil..that said one feels it don't hurt to be jewish if you want in to certain areas of power such as the FED.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 19:10 | 6570118 withglee
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that said one feels it don't hurt to be jewish if you want in to certain areas

Worked for Sammy Davis Jr. and Dr. Laura ... and works for "all" politicians.

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