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Gold & Silver Pumping, Crude & Copper Dumping

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It appears a combination of "there's not enough growth" and "well maybe they'll ease" has driven growthy commodities down hard post-Yellen and sent investors reaching for the safety of bullion...

 

 

Silver is up over 5% this week (biggest week in 4 months) now and Gold back at 3 week highs...

 

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Fri, 09/18/2015 - 08:44 | 6564583 e-recep
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Monetary metals are diverging from other commodities. What could be coming our way?

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 08:45 | 6564588 Bill of Rights
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Price discovery...

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 08:49 | 6564606 saints51
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in what market? and in what currency?

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 08:54 | 6564628 remain calm
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Tyler can we get an update on the Comex reserves. Nows not a time to be lazy. I need you to work better for me you indentured servant

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 09:01 | 6564640 VinceFostersGhost
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I only know of one person that actually got gold off the Comex....and that was 15 years ago.

 

I remember they had to move hell and earth to to it....and some pretty big names were involved. No word if they've ever tried it since.

 

It was one bar......you heard me right......1.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 09:05 | 6564665 Captain Debtcrash
Fri, 09/18/2015 - 09:13 | 6564702 Big Beta Bill
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@vinceFostersGhost

I thought Kyle Bass recently took delievery of some physical.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 09:23 | 6564751 Latitude25
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Yeah.  I keep looking on the web for that photo of him with a bar on his desk.  It seems to have disappeared.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 18:21 | 6567225 Dead Canary
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I stole it. Todays lesson: Don't have your picture taken with your stash.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 10:36 | 6565038 Hopeless for Change
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This is exactly the conversation I was thinking of when I read this comment.  Great post.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 10:50 | 6565094 bluskyes
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gold, and silver haven't moved much in CAD terms

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 08:47 | 6564599 buzzsaw99
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By the pricking of my thumbs,

Something wicked this way comes...

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 11:14 | 6565231 Takeaction2
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This happens....over and over as it has for the past 8 years I have been glued to it.  As you all know...you get excited...is this it?  Is this It?  Are we all finally going to be redeemed for dumping all of that fiat into metals and getting crushed?  This will play out over and over and over until it doesn't.  It is like the governments take on terrorism.  "They only have to get it right once"  That is the way it is with metal stackers..."You only have to be right...ONE TIME".  And that time is coming.  Is this it?  I would say no.  Can you imagine selling your metals now...and being done with it?  Not me.  I will go to my grave not selling at these prices.  When will the "One Time" happen...I think we are close.  THe entire financial markets are a complete joke.  Stack away.  These price moves are NOTHING. Up or down...who cares.  When Gold goes over $3K or $4K that is when I start trading a few morsels for property...you don't go back into cash.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 08:45 | 6564587 stant
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War

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 08:48 | 6564601 RawPawg
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per my education(while reading ZH),This was the next step/progress in the coming collapse.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 08:48 | 6564604 bamawatson
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...but but but but ancient relic pet rock

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 08:59 | 6564650 cooky puss
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You forgot "barbarous"

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 12:20 | 6565606 Fourmyle
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The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their pet rocks.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 08:49 | 6564611 ABB
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You ain't seen nothing yet!

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 08:57 | 6564644 DeadFred
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Silver is at or just breaking out of a multiyear descending triangle. If it confrims it could be explosive. It will likely take a rest somewhere above $20 to consolidate. $22-23 looks about right. While it consolidates put your finger in the air to check the weather conditions then to see if you want to bet on more rise.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 09:03 | 6564662 TeamDepends
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Yes, but what will premiums be when things go full retard?

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 09:57 | 6564886 DeadFred
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The trade de jour is a strangle on SLV. Options are (at least were yesterday) very cheap for a significant rise. Be sure to put on that downside component in case this sketchy ETF goes belly up. By using options your counter-party is some random bank, not a fund that could go insolvent at any moment. Not that a bank is in great shape but if you read its prospectus at least it doesn't translate to "No guarantees".

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 08:51 | 6564619 readyforit
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Another smackdown?

*flinch

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 08:55 | 6564633 Latitude25
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So would this by chance be true price discovery on the LBMA and COMEX?  You will know that PMs are properly priced when they close these exchanges.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 09:04 | 6564667 desirdavenir
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gold at 1000€... is there a floor by someone, somewhere ?

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 09:09 | 6564678 oak
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http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=DX&p=d1

if us$ index breaks down below 93.0, what will happen to pog? your guess.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 09:08 | 6564680 thinkmoretalkless
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Are we close to experiencing what is referred to as going off the rails

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 09:15 | 6564704 FeelinFine
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The rally in silver/gold will correct today. Future contracts will be dumped en masse into a period of low liquidity to keep the price surpressed. The game will continue through to thanksgiving/christmas and then there will better than expected economic news;consumer sentiment indexes better, same store sales yoy increased, less unemployment due to strong retail sales  - whatever since none of it is true.  There will be rumours of increased inflation which will be used to justify a tiny rate hike and the metals will get pounded down again december/january. The rich are going to transfer as much wealth as possible out of dollars into PM. Then when the game cannot be played anymore the prices will go parabolic. Who knows what the final catalyst will be?

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 09:14 | 6564705 hairball48
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Still stackin'

hairball :)

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 09:18 | 6564726 LawsofPhysics
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Gold and silver reasserting their role as monetary metals?

trying to be optimistic guys...

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 10:43 | 6565069 Kaervek
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Having a good day?

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 09:21 | 6564740 agstacks
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When is opex for silver?

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 09:31 | 6564792 jakesdad
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eagles have broken the $20 barrier...

 

I'm sitting on ~1% of our net in phys ag right now but w/nirp being acknowledged may have to up that.  in any event I know I'm a broken record & say this on almost every ag thread but ag isn't an "investment", it's bail-in insurance...

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 09:34 | 6564811 thinkmoretalkless
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It's financial firewood for when the gas is shut off

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 09:41 | 6564831 AnonymousCitizen
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The chart is obviously wrong. Silver is just an industrial commodity. Silly market.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 11:11 | 6565210 Anopheles
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Only 55% of silver is used industrially.  The rest is used for jewelry, coins and bullion.  

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 11:12 | 6565181 Anopheles
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Think of it this way.  

 

If gold can gain $40 in a couple days, simply on the word of NO CHANGE, whats going to happen to the price when there's a REAL and substantial increase in the bank rate? 

I won't buy gold or silver until there's a 3% bank rate.  I expect you will see under $800 gold and $10 silver. 

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