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Russia Says It May Send Troops Into Combat In Syria As A Worried Netanyahu Heads To Moscow
On Thursday evening, we detailed a Reuters report which suggested that the influx of Russian technical and logistical support to Bashar al-Assad’s depleted army at Latakia might have breathed new life into the regime as it seeks to rout Islamic State and a whole host of other armed groups fighting for control of Syria. “Foreign Minister Walid al-Moualem said on Thursday Russia had provided new weapons and trained Syrian troops how to use them,” Reuters said, before describing what certainly sounds like an invigorated air campaign against the de facto ISIS capital at Raqqa.
Importantly, al-Moualem also indicated that Syria would be willing to make an official request for Russian combat troops “if needed.”
Now clearly, it seems likely that Russian troops have already joined the battle and indeed, when the bullets start flying, the distinction between “logistical” support and “combat” support quickly becomes blurred, but through all the sabre rattling and back-and-forth banter between Kerry and Lavrov, both sides are still keen to at least pay lip service to the unwritten rules of international diplomacy which is why before Russia can admit that its troops are actually on the ground to fight, they’ll be a charade where Syria will pretend to be raising the issue with the Kremlin for the first time at which point the Kremlin will take a few days to “consider” things. As of Friday, it appears as though that process has begun. Here’s Bloomberg:
Russia said it’s willing to consider sending troops into combat operations in Syria if President Bashar al-Assad’s government requests assistance.
While the possibility is hypothetical now, “if there is a request, it will be discussed as part of bilateral contacts,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on a conference call on Friday. “Of course it will be discussed and considered.”
The prospect of direct Russian involvement in the country’s civil war, in which more than 250,000 people have died since 2011, would mark a sharp escalation in President Vladimir Putin’s support for the embattled Assad government. The U.S. has accused Russia of increasing military aid to Syria in recent weeks by sending tanks, artillery and personnel, as well as setting up what the Pentagon says might be a forward airbase near the coastal city of Latakia. Syria also hosts Russia’s only naval facility outside the former Soviet Union at Tartus.
The possibility of troop involvement emerged before a visit to Moscow by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday for talks with Putin about Russia’s growing military involvement in Syria. Netanyahu “will present the threats posed to Israel as a result of the increased flow of advanced war material to the Syrian arena and the transfer of deadly weapons to Hezbollah and other terror organizations,” the Israeli government said in an e-mailed statement on Wednesday.
To be sure, Netanyahu’s Russian visit comes at an interesting time. In the US, the last challenge to the Iran nuclear deal was defeated in the Senate on Thursday, paving the way for the agreement’s implementation. Needless to say, Netanyahu isn’t particularly pleased with The White House’s stance on Iran’s nuclear ambitions and US-Israeli relations have deteriorated markedly this year thanks in large part to the Iran deal. But the Israeli PM is also concerned that Russia’s move to reinforce Assad could have implications for Hezbollah, something Netanyahu and Putin will discuss on Monday. Here’s Reuters:
Western officials and a Russian source said last week that Russia was sending an advanced anti-aircraft missile system to Syria in support of Assad.
The Western officials said the SA-22 system would be operated by Russian troops. A U.S. official, who confirmed the information, said the system may be part of a Russian effort to bolster defences at an airfield near Latakia, an Assad stronghold.
Even if Russians operated the missiles and kept them out of the hands of the Syrian army, the arrival of such an advanced anti-aircraft system could unsettle Israel, which in the past has bombed sophisticated arms it suspected were being handed to Assad's Lebanese guerrilla allies, Hezbollah.
(Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah)
Worried about accidentally coming to blows with Russian reinforcements in Syria, Israeli officials said last week they were in contact with Moscow. But Israel also made clear it would continue its policy of stopping advanced arms reaching Hezbollah.
And let’s not forget that just one month ago, Israel hit targets inside Syria after Damascus-based Islamic Jihad lobbed rockets at a village in Northern Israel. Netanyahu claimed the militants were acting on order from an "Iranian general."
“This is another clear and blatant demonstration of Iran’s continued and unabating support and involvement in terrorist attacks against Israel and in the region in general. This attack has also occurred before the ink on the . . . nuclear agreement has even dried, and provided a clear indication of how Iran intends to continue to pursue its destabilising actions and policies as the international sanctions regime is withdrawn in the near future,” Israel's foreign ministry said at the time.
That came just four weeks after Quds commander Qassem Soleimani reportedly met with Vladimir Putin in Moscow where, according to GOP mouthpiece Fox News, the Russian and Iranian leaders discussed "a new joint military plan to strengthen Syrian President Bashar Assad, a plan that is now playing out with the insertion of Russian forces in Syria."
In what looks like a rather conveniently timed announcement ahead of Netanyahu's trip to Russia, the Treasury said on Thursday that any Iranian bank receiving sanctions relief as part of the Iran nuclear deal would have sanctions re-imposed in the event they support Hezbollah or the Quds.
(Soleimani who, according to a CIA officer who spoke to The New Yorker in 2013, is "the most powerful operative in the Middle East today")
So this is the backdrop for Netanyahu's visit to the Kremlin and, as mentioned above, it's complicated by the fact that the Prime Minister is now at odds with the US over Washington's handling of the Iran Nuclear Deal. At the end of the day, one is certainly left to believe that Israel's "worries about accidentally coming to blows with Russian reinforcements in Syria" will quickly evaporate should Netanyahu get confirmation that the Quds are indeed on the ground as some reports have recently suggested and if it becomes clear that weapons are being funneled to Hezbollah, well, then all bets will officially be off.
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Very well articulated and well thought out post. Look forward to future comments.
"Enter Putin"
Fuck I literally burst out laughing at that one. Glad the office is empty. Great post!
You know he is going to offer him all the US nuclear defense plans that have been smuggled to him.
The last thing I want in my life is live under fear, going to sleep everynight knowing that there's a Topol-M or Iskander aiming at my head without knowing when it's going to be fired.
https://youtu.be/G2a6-1UD1kI
See any rioting?
Meanwhile in Russia: International coalition only simulating anti-terrorist efforts in Middle East — Russian FM
Lavrov is a class act, I think.
I wonder how the Russkies regard the zionazi's?
I wonder how the Russkies regard the zionazi's?
They buy mil eqpt from them. As does the US. Israel imports Russian oil.
It's pathetic, really. Once you understand who is who in this game you know that Netanyahu/Mossad are losing ground to their big plan of great Israel. He knows that if Russians join Syria will liberate itself from Mossad-Israeli-US ISIS and the whole plan of destabilising Middle East in order to secure the lands to Greater Israel will slowly come to an end.
Now you can imagine the fury of Netanyahu and importance to attempt to bribe/convince Putin to lay off the support. Maybe he will promise Putin that no gas pipes will be built through Syria which will leave Russias gas market in Central Europe intact in exchange of letting Syria get nailed by ISIS.
Putin is the equivalent of Magnus Carlsen in the world of geopolitical chess. It just might be that Putin is the one that has these psychopaths by the balls. How on earth is Russias presence in Syria strenghten Hezbollah? Is that his cover story to the world as why Russia should stay out of this?
I don't wish to celebrate too.early but I have a feeling that more and more of worlds population are waking up to this organized crime.perpetrated by these sickos of Isreal and the US.
Once you understand who is who in this game you know that Netanyahu/Mossad are losing ground to their big plan of great Israel.
How much greater can you get than controlling the wole world?
True but they still don't have their Greater Israel. Sons of Nimrod are at it again. But as the last time, they will fail.
Populating it exclusively. We see you Zio scum.
Funny you mention Magnus Carlsen. Here he is that douchebag, tribesman and Putin hater Kasparov being beaten by 13 year old Magnus Carlsen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjEmquJhSas
Kasparov is not even in the top 3 geatest chess players, which would include Carlsen, Fischer and American Paul Morphy from the Civil War era.
lodz, 1907, 'immortal game' by rubinstein was tight: https://youtu.be/N1lHUp8L0TM
I cannot wait to see those primitive brainwashed caricatures dressed in black and their US made toyota pickup trucks blown up to bits. We really do not know what the fuck the USSA has been bombing with these past 6000 missions.
The pilots just throw away the old amunitions into the deserts to give room for new ones.
There are budgets to expend on MIC.
Unending wars = unending profits.
This CRISIS proudly sponsored by the UiSiSA ZiO-CONS.
Thank you for your continued tax-paying support... suckers!.
Well they control everyone but you. Thank the maker you are on to them.
Piss off, Jew PIG
Syrian FM says no Russian troops fighting in Syria yet (9/18)
Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem said Thursday that there are no Russian troops fighting alongside the Syrian army in the war-torn country.
"I say so far there is no Russian-Syrian joint fight on ground, but if we sensed that there is a need for that, we will consider and ask, not only consider, but we will ask (for that joint fight)," the minister stressed.
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/943202.shtml
>>>I say so far there is no Russian-Syrian joint fight on ground.
So that means that the Russians are going on their own missions, right?
evil begets evil
Satan is ruling the Western world NWO, America and Israeli
I am disgusted by the dispicable acts of war
Tired that there is no righteous standard of goodness...
Jesus is coming soon to reconcile it..
Nothing to see here folks. Just another proxy war, you've seen them before. Move along people.
Putin is laughing his ass off! Obama Nominates First Openly Gay Service Secretary To Lead The Army. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/19/us/eric-fanning-civilian-adviser-named...
What better way to demoralize the Army.
This should be considered TREASON.
The Army is chock full of cocksuckers, now that its legal.
A cocksuckers heaven
It is the exact same rich vein of utter dumbness pretending to be logic, that Merkel also mined to voice and invite the combat experienced young men of the ME to invade Germany, and Europe in general.
Same treacherous idiotic mentality, different topic.
Who got in their ear and bribed and flattered them, to put them up to it?
The Spartans did OK. The question is - will he fight?
LOL, What a fruitcake.
He looks like it. Obama needs to install more transgenders to finish the armed services off.
Obama's motto, destroy from within.
I am pretty sure that to Vlad, Nuttinyahoo is just an annoying little cur.
not so
Putin is aware of the Book
Bibi seems to forget it
Israel will stay no matter what
Sorry, hate to disappoint many of you
But that is the way it is.
I am pretty sure that to Vlad, Nuttinyahoo is just an annoying little cur.
No one with nuclear armed submarines is just an annoying little cur.
That nuclear armed submarine is just a dangerous artifact if its entire homeland has been turned into a glowing glass surface.
Putin's missile defenses are more than capable of defending against the few nukes that Israel is capable of throwing. I doubt he is losing much sleep over it.
Launch a nuke from a submarine at Russia, and Israel will quite disappear from the face of earth with 2 maybe 3 of Russia's big boys. Even the Israeli sewer rats and cockroaches.
Hezbollah is perfectly capable of handling Israel. Indeed, Hezbollah has rockets that can target any location in Israel, including the nuclear reactor at Dimona. Israel has not won a war since 1973, despite receiving $ hundreds of billions in military aid, all paid for by US taxpayers. Israel is, however, very efficient at murdering defenseless Palestinians.
Of course they can handle Israel. It is why after their glorious victory they have not attempted another in 9 years.
I don't know if you followed that battle closely, but if you did you would know what was standing between the Israeli Army and Damascus in the final days. Nothing.
Then the war quickly ended. With Hezbollah declaring victory and Israel wringing its hands - publicly.
But as I said. The key tell is that Hezbollah has yet to try again for final victory. And now they are getting chewed up by ISIS. Having 100+ decide they don't want to fight any further (as reported by an Arab news agency) is a fairly serious sign that they feel defeated, If it is true.
It may be:
Hezbollah leader calls for help fighting ISIS in Syriahttp://www.rt.com/news/261689-hezbollah-fight-isis-syria/
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Typically a group does not invite an alliance with its enemies in a fight unless they are sore pressed.
Hezbollah Calls Lebanese Rivals to Join 'Existential' Fight Against ISIS
http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.657912
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So yeah. Absolutely. They beat Israel bad and are now cleaning the clock of the ISIS militia.
Will Russia's entry change the balance of power? Time will tell.
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What I'm looking for - Christian militias start nibbling at territory formerly claimed by Hezbollah.
Not quite, Israel won a large air and SAM war against Syria in mid-1982.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mole_Cricket_19
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Lebanon_War
Nut-and-Yahoo, Putin will laugh at him. What a joke.
No false flag required. The potential play is set for Israel (the proxy) who will/could attack Assad and kill some Russians while they are it. Russia will not take any shit in this fight and will retaliate imho. Russia knows that when push comes to shove they are all in on this hand, they understand the real existential threat posed by the USA and its proxies IS and Israel. There is no question that Russia is going all they way on this deal or they would not be in Syria to begin with. The question is, will Old Uncle Sam belly up to the bar and play or fold? I think Russia will go for it myself if push comes to shove. Russia has China, Iran and maybe India in their corner, my money is with Russia on this one, the US Empire has bit off more than it can chew.
I would be careful how you assign corners.
Israel does mil business with Russia, China, and India. In fact they work quite closely with India.
If anything is to be done it will be done by ISIS. It is what cut outs are for.
the US Empire has bit off more than it can chew.
It is not doing the chewing. Its cut outs are doing that.
And suppose this is not a WW2 type hot war but more a Cold War with proxies. That means a slow bleed not a decisive battle. One dimension of the bleed: Ukraine. Another. Syria. Another Chechnya. Another oil prices. It may be Putin with too much on his plate.
BTW I totally agree wit those who say Ukraine was done by the US/Euros. And ISIS is a Saudi/US cut out.
But chew on this:
Schlumberger buys into Russia's largest oilfield servicesYou know Peace Prize is trying to find a way to expand European sanctions on Russia for their recent actions defending Assad in Syria
The last time the Israeli Air Force met the Russian Air Force it was 5-0 Israel. Read about it here:
http://www.zahal.org/groups/ambush
Those of you who are itching for a fight ought to be careful what you wish for. It may not turn out as you hope. But it might. War is a dark place and nothing is certain.
And what year was that??? yeah.... nothing has changed in 45 years, Israeli hubris remains the same.
Well I'm sure things have changed in the interim. For both sides. Russia buys Israeli drones. Israel buys Russian oil.
My point is that I doubt Putin is itching for the fight you want him to engage in. A Putin win would be excellent of course. A loss would be devastating. The Israelis think Netanyahoo is going to Moscow to work out a liason to avoid direct conflict.
What was that ratio 3 to 1?
Te ratio was infinite (well indeterminate actually). 5 Russions downed to 0 Israelis. You ought to read the report. The Israelis not only outsmarted the Russians. They out fought them.
The dust up had 14 Israeli jets total vs 16 Russians. Initial contact was 8 Israelis vs 16 Russians.
From what I gather in the Israeli press - the Israelis would rather avoid a conflict with Russia.
But I'm sure Putin wouldn't mind the Israelis destroying Russian eqpt held by Assad and his allies. More weapons sales for Russia.
Fighting a war requires a strong supply chain of men, weapons, food, materials and supplies. Unless you have a self sufficient manufacturing economy, and last I checked ISIS did not, then you have to get your stuff from others. Sure ISIS may have benefited short term from left over weapons from the Iraq war, but that would likely be consumed in a matter of months. A prolonged engagement requires a constant stream. If the US, Russia and Iran are now all fighting ISIS, then who is left to supply this army and where are the supply chains? How is ISIS still able to fight? Obviously, something about this conflict does not add up.
US and UK have been supplying them all along..."accidentally "
The Israelis are taking advantage. ISIS has decimated Hezbollah. Something like 2,000 dead out of 10,000 to 15,000 fighters.
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The radio also cited a report in pan-Arab newspaper Asharq al-Awsat, which claimed that Hezbollah fighters dispatched to Syria to shore up the regime there have begun to show reluctance to confront the rebel groups seeking to overthrow President Bashar Assad. According to the report, the hesitation began after 120 Hezbollah fighters were killed in confrontations with opposition groups and another 200 were wounded.
Like the Syrian regime, Hezbollah is an Iranian proxy in the region, receiving funds and arms from the Islamic Republic. The group has dispatched thousands of fighters to support the embattled Assad, although reports have repeatedly emerged that the organization has struggled to defeat the opposition forces.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/hezbollah-arrested-own-men-for-refusing-to-...
I believe the Times of Israel about as much as the Times of Moscow.
They refer to other reports. You might want to cross check. Should you have an interest.
a report in pan-Arab newspaper Asharq al-Awsat - mentioned
And I must add - being familiar with the American press - that it is not to be trusted either.
Which is why I like presenting things from points of view not often seen around here. If you get lots of different sources sometimes you can read between the lines.
Or The Times of New York for that matter.
Yep.
Under Putin, the Hasidic FJCR became increasingly influential within the Jewish community, partly due to the influence of Federation-supporting businessmen mediated through their alliances with Putin, notably Lev Leviev and Roman Abramovich.[198][198][199] According to the JTA, Putin is popular amongst the Russian Jewish community, who see him as a force for stability. Russia's chief rabbi, Berel Lazar, said Putin "paid great attention to the needs of our community and related to us with a deep respect."[200]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin
Putin being popular with the Jews of Russia is an unwelcome sentiment around here?
Wha a f'n surprise.
Piss off, Jew PIG
Ah. My Russian friend. I was wondering when you would show up. If you check up thread you will find you have been missed. By me. Among others.
Don't you have anything better to do?
No.
Like most groupings, Jews have their reasonable folks and their unreasonable folks. The criminal Jewish oligarchs were firmly put in their place by Putin, whilst at the same time the reasonable Jews of Russia found themselves protected by typical Russian acceptance of ethnic diversity. Of course, many Jews are appreciative of Putin's protection and the stability that brings.
Jews are doing extremely well under the pro-Semitic Putin, being disproportionately represented in the ranks of Russia’s billionaires by perhaps a couple of orders of magnitude.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/putins-billionaires-jews-make-up-over-15th/
Those Jewish billionaires made their money before Putin arrived on the scene. Putin was responsible for bringing them under the control of the Russian state.
You lie and misinform.
You failed to mention the one's Putin kicked out. I wonder if they hold grudges?
Obviously, they and their friends do hold a grudge. So what? If that's a consequence of saving the country? So what? May they all get their just rewards.
Ever think that "kicking them out" was a plan? Not a saving of the State but a metastasizing?
Or maybe they are working against Putin from the outside with help from the inside.
BTW you might want to look at what kicking them out in 1492 did for the Brit/Spanish dust up. The Spanish had all the cards and wound up a 3rd rate power. Maranos is the key word.
Last I read, the only work Russia's former richest man, Boris Behrezovsky was doing was pushing up daises.
They "made" their money??? Why not go the whole hog and say they "earned" it.
After Russia elite made military support to Assad which is hated by Sunni (look at this map) it will get revange from Islamic terrorists in Caucasus region and in heart of Russia - that will destabilze Russia.
Here you can see that islamic terrorists already has produced attack propaganda against Russia: https://youtu.be/BejSm--Usl0
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-26943503
8 April 2014
The UN has warned that a drought in Syria could lead to a record low wheat harvest and put millions of people at risk.
The World Food Programme (WFP) said rainfall since September has been less than half the long-term average.
At the same time, WFP food aid has been cut by a fifth due to a lack of funds from international donors.
Over 100,000 people have been killed since fighting broke out in Syria more than three years ago.
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The food shortage actually began in 2011 or 2012. It is the main cause of the break up of Syria.
The main cause of the breakup in Syria is Western/Gulf State intervention for regime change. All other causes must be viewed in that light.
Yes. They have been taking advantage of Assad's weakness. In a country of poor people - as most of the Islamic States are - food is always a fulcrum. No oil - no eat.
“It seems to me a certainty that the fatalistic teachings of Mohammed and the utter degradation of the Arab women are the outstanding causes for the arrested development of the Arab. He is exactly as he was around the year 700, while we have been developing.” General George S. PattonRussia imports a lot of food. About 40% of its consumption. China also imports a lot of its food.
With the passing of another climate optimum food is going to become much more important in world affairs. Oil and natural gas will be declining in importance.
Mar 29, 2011 http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MC29Ak02.html
Food and Syria's failure
By Spengler
"In the south it all started after a group of school students started to write some sort of proclamations and complaints, protesting against growing food prices," Middle East analyst Vladimir Ahmedov told The Voice of Russia March 24.
Arab-language Syrian press reports and blog posts indicate that the administration of President Basher al-Assad tried to prevent a rise in food prices, but provoked instead a wave of hoarding that has pushed the price of staples like oil and rice "above the purchasing power of consumers", as the online daily al-Tashreen reported from Damascus March 27.
As I wrote in Food and failed Arab states (Asia Times Online February 2, 2011), the newly prosperous consumers of Asia have priced food grains out of the reach of the destitute Arab poor. This is a tsunami which no government in the region can resist. Of all the prospectively failed states in the region, Syria seemed the least vulnerable, with a determined and vicious regime prepared to inflict unspeakable brutality on its opponents, and its inability to contain unrest is a frightening gauge of the magnitude of the shock.
The Arab bazaar speculates in foodstuffs as aggressively as hedge funds, and the Syrian government's attempt last month to keep food prices down prompted local merchants to hoard commodities with a long shelf life. Fruit and vegetable prices, by contrast, remain low, because the bazaar does not hoard perishables. The fact that prices rose after the government announced high-profile measures to prevent such a rise exposed the fecklessness of the Assad regime.
Go back to posting on "The Rational Male" blog about how you turn on your elderly wife (my apologies, your "First Mate") with your macho, alpha studliness. Rollo Tomassi may have patience for your delusions, but the rest of us don't.
Ah. I see I have a fan. BTW you haven't been keeping up. I refer to her as my LTR these days. Forty years together so far. How many divorces have you had in that time?
Go away, zionist troll MSimon, I already know you as a troll. So stop spamming here.
Well. Glad to have annoyed you. I'll see what I can do to further agitate you.
How about this? I'm a fan of the Austrinan school and the Jew Mises. Smart feller. And his popularizer M. Friedman.
I like F. Hayek and S. Hayek.
Salma Hayek is far superior.
So, no mention of the long, debilitating drought in Syria that is the root cause of the food shortages and price spikes....it is all caused by the rising prosperity in Asia. What kind of propaganda is this tripe?
Even with no warring factions, we would see a steady stream of migrants from Syria's East, where the drought driven famine is worst.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/22/opinion/friedman-wikileaks-drought-and...
EDIT ---- MSimon - After reviewing some earlier posts, I see that you did bring up the drought issue in Syria, and on that point we agree. Water and food will become more important than oil. Indeed, it already has for the human masses on the move towards the more prosperous (for now) West.
Putin "Now benny, tell me again, just how many Russians do I have in Israel?"
I think the answer is a about a million.
And 200,000 Jews still in Russia.
And about 30,000 in Iran who refused big money to move to Israhell.
Very convenient too. You might want to look at how the Rothschild network operated back before we got the telegraph. And see if that applies in this era.
You are so smart Alfie it makes my head hurt.
ISUS is a lot more appropriate !
Russia's federal security services (FSB) estimate that around 2,500 Russian nationals have joined the ranks of Islamist terror organisation ISIS, state TV channel Perviy Kanal reported on Friday.
Speaking to reporters at a summit attended by Russian anti-terrorism officials and officials from other member states of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, FSB Deputy Chief Sergey Smirnov said some of Russia's neighbours also face urgent problems in terms of jihadist recruitment.
He said that according to FSB data, 3,000 would-be jihadis from across the central Asian region had joined ISIS.
http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-russians-fighting-isis-says-130933963.html
Munich thanks Vladimir Putin !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziQmfqMmd5U
Apparently Russia is also setting up a refugee camp near Latakia and defending it
You are all so right. And extraordinarily able. You have no trouble identifying the front men. Which is so difficult.
And since you are so smart. Could you tell me the purpose of a "front man"?
Brilliant moves by the Russians lately! USSA/Israel in panic mode (Bibi dispatched to Moscow and Kerry literally terrorizing Lavrov on the phone) as ISIS HQ got a massive hit yesterday with new Russian weapons and training... even Stratfor is working overtime to produce satellite imagery, - notice how fast those are forthcoming these days, wonder when they will show us some quality photos from that Malaysian airline incident...
Could the new bolshie zionist scum finally overreached in their insane pursuit of the fictional greater israel? Maybe. If so, let's hope that Putin chases the ISIS scourge all the way back to their port of creation, israel.
Keep up. It was the Saudis who created ISIS.
OTOH - Russia's hand in the region seems to be strengthing:
http://www.debka.com/article/24885/Putin%E2%80%99s-offer-to-shield-devel...
But when the fresh influx of Russian troops and hardware to Syria became known (first revealed by debkafile on Sept.1), Netanyahu began to appreciate that, not only had Israel’s military and strategic situation with regard to Syria and the eastern Mediterranean been stood on its head, so too had foreign investment prospects for development projects in Israeli gas.
Israel’s strategic landscape had in fact changed radically in four respects:
1. Its government can no longer accept as a working hypothesis (which never, incidentally, held up) the short term expectancy of the Assad regime. The injection of Russian military might, combined with the Iranian Revolutionary Guards forces, have given Assad a substantial lease of life.
The Israel Defense Forces must therefore revamp its posture on the Syrian front, and reassess its sponsorship of the select rebel groups which are holding the line in southern Syria against hostile Iranian or Hizballah cross-border attacks on northern Israel.
The changing attitude was suggested in views heard in the last couple of days from top Israeli security officials, who now say that leaving Assad in office might be the better option, after all.
2. The new Russian ground, air and sea buildup taking shape in Syria provides a shield not just for the Assad regime but also Hizballah. This too calls for changes in Israel’s military posture.
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Russia seems to have the strong hand. For now.
It all depends on if they can hold it. They appear to be winding down Ukraine. Good for them.
And if Israel takes the Russian deal Russia and Israel will be defacto allies.
If this is a short war - I'd bet on Russia. If it is a long war The US and Saudis.
What could derail Russian plans? Europe goes all out with fracking for gas. The China pipeline from Russia is not due for completion before 3 to 6 years.
And then: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/chinas-shale-ambition-23-times-the-outp...
Lots of eggs in the air.
Tyler
This guy's quoting and linking Debka ... you know what to do. ;-) :D
ROFLMAO. You are either the i in naive or a zio shill.
Once again Putin outsmarts Obama... With Obama's ego trembling about legacy he pushes the Iran nuclear deal through. After it is all but guaranteed, here comes Putin and Iran into Syria. I really hope next time all the illiterates dont vote and we leave the little leaguers out of the line up. Obama will probably further blunder and lock in continuation of the US oil export ban to satisy his alternative energy legacy all the while Putin courts the Saudis for a closer relationship and move from the petro-dollar. Netanyahu is not stupid either, if Russia is smart, they will guarantee high tech armaments are kept under very close Russian control and will not fall in the hands of Israels enemies, Putin may even initiate some shifting of alliance on that front. If Putin plays his cards right he could be the new middle east peace maker with ISIS being the only thing standing in his way and the US is going to get the international blame. This is already happening in Europe. Conclusion (going out on a limb)-- I think the politics support a "black swan" in the very near term. To keep the Europeans opinion of the US Middle East "Strategy" in decline, my crystal ball says ISIS goes after oil assets in Saudi Arabia (suggesting it may not really be ISIS) thus making European heating costs more expensive this winter. This may really be like a godfather "offer you cant refuse" in an effort to shift Saudi allegiance at the same time the European allegiance is be propagandized. Putin has the big stick now (kind of like the China/North Korea relationship) in the middle east and can easily sway current US allies closer to him if he plays it right. The US is STUCK once again. With Russia there in person, look for them to also come out with reports on captured ISIS arms being sourced by the US. Checkmate Barack
gotta laugh, obuma made a deal but not a Treaty..much like an executive order, all of which can be deleted by the next president..this is so much dish water, .gov is so used to deflecting the public into silly concern over something that does not have the weight of a real Treaty. silly and self absorbed, public figures who do get a nice hawii estate and thug security for life.
"With Obama's ego trembling about legacy he pushes the Iran nuclear deal through."
That's your article. Job done.
Russia would consider sending troops and the rest is sensational nonsense from the usual anonymous (and spineless) sources "officals" "western officials" "israeli officials" etc.
Show us the proof and show us what has changed in Russia-Syria relations.
Perhaps Israel is finally figuring out that post-Soviet Russia is their strategic ally and that intellectually supporting and directing the USSA is only valuable for tactical requirements.
Barry met bibi on the net n yahoo