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Clock Ticks On US Syria Strategy As Assad Pounds ISIS Targets, Russia Sends Fighter Jets

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Earlier this week, Bashar al-Assad served notice to ISIS that the tide may have just turned in the battle for Syria. The Kremlin’s move to increase its “logistical” and “technical” support for government forces at Latakia appears to have breathed new life into the regime which carried out a series of air raids in the de facto ISIS capital Raqqa on Thursday. 

This came amid reports that Assad’s forces were using new “highly effective and very accurate” weaponry. "There are modern weapons that the regime didn't previously have, be they rocket launchers or air to ground to missiles," The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights told Reuters.

Needless to say, Russia’s move to bolster Assad and the suggestion by Syrian foreign minister Walid al-Moualem that Damascus may soon formally request Russian ground troops for the fight has alarmed Washington which, until now, was content to bide its time until Assad finally fell before swooping in to “liberate” the country from whatever militia managed to prevail. As we outlined on Friday, that option is now officially off the table, as toppling Assad will now mean ISIS, al-Nusra, YPG, and the various and sundry other groups operating throughout the country will need to first defeat Russia, an exceptionally unlikely outcome and one that the Pentagon certainly cannot afford to wait out. With its back against the wall in terms of explaining to the public why it seems more and more like the US would rather allow ISIS to continue to operate rather than ally with Russia and Assad to defeat them, Obama and Kerry folded on Friday, instructing Defense Secretary Ashton Carter to phone his Russian counterpart to begin coordinating anti-terror activities in Syria. Here's The New York Times:

As the first Russian combat aircraft arrived in Syria, the Obama administration reached out to Moscow on Friday to try to coordinate actions in the war zone and avoid an accidental escalation of one of the world’s most volatile conflicts.

 

The White House seemed to acknowledge that the Kremlin had effectively changed the calculus in Syria in a way that would not be soon reversed despite vigorous American objections. The decision to start talks also reflected a hope that Russia might yet be drawn into a more constructive role in resolving the four-year-old civil war.

 

At Mr. Obama’s instruction, Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter on Friday opened a dialogue on Syria with his Russian counterpart, Defense Minister Sergei K. Shoigu, aimed at making sure that American and Russian forces avoid running into each other by mistake. 

 

“The Russians are going into Syria because the regime’s position in the north is deteriorating,” he noted. “The Pentagon has been unable to recruit and train a viable opposition to fight the Islamic State because the rebels’ main interest is in fighting Mr. Assad. Given divisions between Moscow and Washington, it’s hard to see how you turn convergence on tactical military issues into a collective and viable political strategy to stabilize Syria and end the war.”

 

But that appears to be precisely Mr. Kerry’s goal. “They allege that they also share the goal of a political transition that leads to a stable, whole, united, secular Syria,” Mr. Kerry said of the Russians on Britain’s Channel 4. “The question always remains, Where is Assad’s place and role within that? And that’s what we need to have more conversation on.”

Note that this is a bitter defeat for Washington. Moscow, realizing that instead of undertaking an earnest effort to fight terror in Syria, the US had simply adopted a containment strategy for ISIS while holding the group up to the public as the boogeyman par excellence, publicly invited Washington to join Russia in a once-and-for-all push to wipe Islamic State from the face of the earth. Of course The Kremlin knew the US wanted no such thing until Assad was gone, but by extending the invitation, Putin had literally called Washington’s bluff, forcing The White House to either admit that this isn’t about ISIS at all, or else join Russia in fighting them. 

The genius of that move is that if Washington does indeed coordinate its efforts to fight ISIS with Moscow, the US will be fighting to stabilize the very regime it sought to oust. 

In other words: checkmate, courtesy of The Kremlin. 

And while Washington scrambles to decide its next move, Assad was back on offense Friday, launching what observers said were the heaviest air strikes yet on ISIS targets near the ancient city of Palmyra. Here’s BBC:

About 25 air strikes left at least 26 people dead, including 12 militants, the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

 

IS captured Palmyra, which includes a Unesco World Heritage site, in May.

 

Elsewhere, air strikes on Idlib killed 17 people, the Observatory said.

 

The city of Idlib is a stronghold of an alliance of jihadist and Islamist groups calling itself the Army of Conquest.

 

 

Syrian military sources quoted by Reuters have said Syria is using new types of very accurate weapons supplied by its ally, Russia.

 

The latest air strikes came a day after Syrian air force jets attacked Raqqa, the de facto capital of IS.

 

"In the past two days, the regime has intensified its air raids against areas controlled by the Islamic State group," Observatory spokesman Rami Abdel Rahman said.

And from Al Arabiya:

Syrian warplanes unleashed a wave of deadly airstrikes on the militant-held town of Palmyra in central Syria on Friday, killing at least 15 and wounding many more, activists said, in some of the heaviest bombardment since the extremist group seized the ancient town May 10.

 

The Palmyra airstrikes come a day after the Syrian army carried out heavy air raids in the northern city of Raqqa, also held by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria  group (ISIS).

 

A local activist who spoke on condition of anonymity for security reasons reported at least 30 air raids on Palmyra Friday. A local media collective called the strikes a “massacre” and said 15 people were killed and more than 120 wounded. It said Palmyra’s only hospital was suffering severe shortages in staff and equipment, and some of the wounded had to be taken to Raqqa, more than 200 kilometers (125 miles) away.

In short, the Assad regime appears to have gone from depleted and exhausted, to “massacring” rebel fighters in the space of just two weeks, a remarkable turnaround which certainly seems to suggest that if the US doesn’t figure out a strategy soon, the whole thing could be over and Assad restored. 

Incidentally, Hezbollah claims to have beaten back a rebel advance in Foua on Friday. Here's Al Arabiya again:

Meanwhile, a coalition of rebel groups launched a major ground offensive on two predominantly Shiite villages in the northern province of Idlib, firing dozens of rockets and detonating at least seven booby-trapped vehicles on their outskirts.

 

The coalition, known as Jaysh al-Fateh, or “Army of Conquest,” attacked Foua and Kfarya villages earlier Friday. Both are held by pro-government forces in an otherwise rebel-controlled province.

 

Syrian TV and Manar, a station owned by Lebanon’s Hezbollah group, said popular defense forces - a term used to refer to Shiite militias - foiled attempts by “terrorists” to attack Foua and destroyed five armored vehicles. Hezbollah fighters are also fighting to defend the two villages.

Bear in mind that the main reason for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's visit to Moscow on Monday is to prevent Russia's presence in Syria from strengthening Hezbollah. 

Meanwhile, behind the scenes, the man some suspect of masterminding the entire effort to restore the Assad regime, Quds commander Major General Qassem Soleimani, seems to understand the US strategy all too well - we close with the following from Iran's PressTV:

Commander of the Quds Force of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) Major General Qassem Soleimani said Wednesday that the policy of the US with regards to Daesh and other Takfiri groups operating in the region is to only have them under control and not eliminate them.

 


 

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Sun, 09/20/2015 - 02:25 | 6570785 Paveway IV
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The Kagans, PNAC, The American Enterprise Institute and ISW are all mouthpieces to stir up business for defense contractors (the ones that ultimately pay the Kagans to spew their nonsense or influence U.S. policy). I don't know if it's a result of that, or what motivates them, but they are the consummate treasonous, dual-citizen Israeli-firsters. They are paranoid of being called out on this, however. They blubber excuses if accused of such like some idiot that just got hit up the side of the head with an aluminum baseball bat.

I actually love reading ISW stuff. It isn't worth much as a legitimate analysis of Syrian matters, it's more like wishful thinking of what should happen in Syria based on a warped view of the current situation as seen through their neo-con X-ray specs. Assad's fall was always top of the list, but now they're kind of hedging because they've realized their analysis was horribly flawed from day one. Psychopaths never count on other psychopaths screwing things up - they are blind to the very possibility of such a thing. They don't trust other psychopaths and generally hate them as competition, but continuously fail to account for them in their schemes. Odd.

So what tune does the Kagan juke box switch to now to drum up kill-business for the war machine? Read it for yourself: 

BACKGROUNDER | FORECASTING THE SYRIAN CIVIL WAR | CHRISTOPHER KOZAK | SEPTEMBER 17, 2015

A few things (of way to many) to call out here which will undoubtedly be 'themes' of .gov to justify whatever.

Kozak's assessments of the Syrian government's Most Dangerous Course of Actions (MCDOAs)

Re: Latakia - "...MDCOA #1: Conduct major operation including chemical weapons, airstrikes, and Iranian proxies to secure northeastern Latakia Province..." so get ready for another chemical false flag. Sheesh... these idiots never give up.

Re: Syria Central Corridor - "...MDCOA #1: Reinforce outskirts of Homs and Hama Cities, and violently clear of suspect populations through massacres, chemical weapons..." Hey, stick with what works, eh Christopher?

Re: Damascus - "...MDCOA #1: Conduct major operation including chemical weapons, airstrikes, and Iranian proxies to violently clear rebel-held pockets of Eastern and Western Ghouta..." Oh, hell... chemical weapons false flags AND Hezbollah. The MIC just got a huge boner.

Re: [Iran] Secure Golan Heights Border - "...MDCOA #2: Conduct major operation through Iranian proxies to seize terrain along Golan Heights..." So Syrian allies would seize Syrian land? Well, I know who will be pissed about that.

And finally, Christopher barfs out what he really wanted to say all along:

An Iranian-driven offensive along the border of the Israeli held

Golan Heights constitutes a second possible MDCOA

under current conditions. Iranian proxies – including

Palestinian militants, Afghan Shia militiamen, and Lebanese

Hezbollah – have been increasingly active along the Golan

Heights border in recent months and have conducted several

attacks against Israel or the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF). Iran

may calculate that a direct operation along the Golan Heights

will be necessary to secure strategic positioning against Israel

given the recent setbacks of the Syrian regime. Advances

by anti-regime actors, including ISIS, JN, and the Syrian

opposition, which sufficiently weaken the Syrian regime could

pressure Iran to pursue this course of action and prioritize

its own efforts within the country. This escalation would

likely constitute a component of a broader Iranian decision

to move to a new phase of direct engagement in Syria. In

any scenario, such a move by Iran would likely prompt a

military response from Israel, which has conducted multiple

airstrikes against Iranian-backed forces in Syria and recently

engaged in military exercises focusing on a limited operation

into southern Syria. Events along the Golan Heights border

could thus escalate into a broader struggle between Israel and

Iran along with its proxies which threatens the stability of the

region.

Yeah. The Kagans' satanic influence was useless - the U.S. can't find any more Syrians to kill other Syrians. The U.S. LOST the war to Assad, and they refuse to fight ISIS so they lose by default. No MIC business there - what the hell?

Time to play the trump card: Israel might be forced to act and we can't have that, because they might 'tard out and use nukes. I say let them - they will reap what they sow. 

Sun, 09/20/2015 - 09:33 | 6571087 Freddie
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The IDF generally does not do very well against Hezbollah in ground fighting.

More on the criminal Crown-Krinsky family aka General Dynamics who supported LBJ (whacking JFK), McCain, Obama, PNAC and AIPAC. The criminals in chicago including Soros put Obola in power.  Endless wars = endless defense contract money.   Who owns the other defense contractors?

http://www.abeldanger.net/2014/04/crown-crime-family-of-chicago.html

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:19 | 6568842 FireBrander
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"For numberless centuries society accepted the proposition that certain men were created to be slaves. Their natural function was to serve priests, kings and nobles, men of substance and property who were appointed slave-masters by almighty God.

This system was reinforced by the established doctrine that all men and women were owned 'in mind' by the church and 'in body' by the state. This convenient situation was supported by the authority of social morality, religion and even philosophy.

Against this doctrine, some two hundred years ago, rose the most astonishing heresy the world has yet seen; the principle of liberalism. In essence this principle stated that all men are created equal and endowed with inalienable rights which belong to every man as his birthright" - Fra. Belarion 1976

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:30 | 6568858 FireBrander
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Conservatism - is any political philosophy that favours tradition (in the sense of various religious, cultural, or nationally-defined beliefs and customs) in the face of external forces for change, and is critical of proposals for radical social change.

Liberalism - is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality.

~~~~~~~~~~~

Today, Conservatives wrap themselves in the Constitution, but at the time of its writing, they would have BURNED IT and killed those proposing it!

Historical ignorance is astounding.

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:42 | 6568889 godiva chocolate
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Equal Rights - not equality.  All people are different and will never be equal nor should homogenity nor diversity be valued in and ofthemselves.  And too bad the equality does not extend to foreign countries to do as thet want and instead must embrace the type of government the US tells them.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:25 | 6569317 lincolnsteffens
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Equality in treatment as a human being and by civil servants for equal protection of law is liberalism.

It doesn't necessarily mean that someone with an IQ of 70 that bags groceries should get the same wealth and quality of life that someone who works hard and performs society's valued tasks exceptionally well. Nor should a workaholic genius only be entitled to what the a lazy incapable slacker has. Unfortunately to some it means each man and woman must have everything completely the same as everyone by force. ( Except for the privileged leaders and planners who deserve a fleet of cars, 5 homes, the best food and servants to wait on them, /sarc.)

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:56 | 6568939 gladih8r
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Heh,  Conservatives/Liberals.... these days all we have is a bunch of Statists.  And we all know that Statists are the worst scum of all. The garbage juice of humanity.

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 15:25 | 6569560 Lea
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"Historical ignorance is astounding."

Yes, Firebrander, historical ignorance is astounding. Everything you wrote, for instance, is wrong.

Seems straight out of Wikipedia, the encyclopedia only ignoramuses take seriously.

Quote, "For numberless centuries society accepted the proposition that certain men were created to be slaves. Their natural function was to serve priests, kings and nobles, men of substance and property who were appointed slave-masters by almighty God."

(facepalm).

Do us a favor and stop reading things you don't understand. Keep to Donald Trump, ok?

Sun, 09/20/2015 - 07:22 | 6570955 The_Dude
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Try to understand the difference between Classical Liberalism (of the founding fathers) and the crap Social Liberalism of today,  retard...

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:25 | 6568844 Welfare Tycoon
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Russia is starting to turn into the geopolitical version of the gang from Scooby Doo that fucks up the plan of the United States every time. 

"If it weren't for you meddling Russians!"

LULZ 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:52 | 6568921 BobPaulson
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The US hegemon is spread thinly across the globe, reaching its arms everywhere using the carrier fleet and the hundreds of bases in as many countries. The Russians have abandandoned much of the costly business of empire and can choose where the fight will be.

Sun Tzu: 

We can form a single united body, while the enemy must split up into fractions. Hence there will be a whole pitted against separate parts of a whole, which means that we shall be many to the enemy's few.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 20:35 | 6570241 Freddie
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Putin knows that lesson very well as a child and young man.  He knows the evils of the old USSR where his mother and her neighbor friend had to sneak him to the local church to be baptized as a baby.

He also saw the corrupt old USSR empire implode.  He knows that is the last thing Russia wants.  Better to have friends around the world. Countries who want to deal with someone who is honorable versus mass murders and psycho scum like Kerry and Hillary.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:36 | 6568877 godiva chocolate
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Trump and who is the other one?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:03 | 6569269 Main_Sequence
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With the official news breaking about Russia's involvement in Syria, John McCain must have popped the hugest, most blood-engorged hardon he's ever had in his pitiful existence being the evangelist shill for the MIC.  McCains wet dream has come true -- the Russian's have indeed come.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:38 | 6569332 Bananamerican
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"I'm rooting for Russia...WHAT THE FUCK...how far we have fallen..."

We didn't fall...we were pushed.

and yeah, it does feel weird but then again....

"While the (Assad) regime has kept a tight lid on Muslim fundamentalists who seek its overthrow, Christians and other religious minorities received relative freedom to practice their faith". In the West now it's the other way around....

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 15:22 | 6569571 NeoRandian
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"We have to kill all the muslims."

Lindsay Graham 2016

The poor guy stopped taking his xanax/prozac cocktail for the debate.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 15:50 | 6569649 Klemens
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the Zionist did bring the WW2 to Germany via Adolf Hitler

http://henrymakow.com/2015/09/Hitler-and-Nazism-a-Zionist-Creation.html

and they did bring the war also to Libya, Syria, Irak, etc., etc.,

Sun, 09/20/2015 - 02:54 | 6570817 uhland62
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Without wars you cannot sell weapons. I forgot the figures but somewhere credible I read that more weapons have been sold under the Obama administration than comparable times. I have the feeling that the much praised economic recovery in the US is due to arms sales. So if you want to keep the economic recovery going you need arms sales, wars, threats of war and baddies. Someone who's got figures about the arms sales might look at this more closely, I could misinterpret the figures that were very impressive when I read them.

Another interesting question is, is the Assad regime really different from the Sisi regime in Egypt? Last time I looked Turkey's Erdogan cut off diplomatic relations with Egypt because he was green with envy; Sisi was allowed and even financed to be a dictator, but Erdogan wasn't permitted that. Why is one dictator pampered and another pulped?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:50 | 6568912 junction
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The next move by the treasonous Obama administration is parole the ISIS, al-Nusra and YPG killers into the United States, so they can carry through on Obama's long term plan to turn the USA into a caliphate.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 15:26 | 6569583 NeoRandian
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The global elite have been watching Iran very carefully. They've noted that no matter what attempts the rest of the world makes to destabilize Iran, Iran remains very stable. Perhaps this is an enviable model for other nations. Perhaps the Iranian revolution was the end of history.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 11:28 | 6569025 Fukushima Fricassee
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Boom right up Obama's queer ass.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:56 | 6569382 Dis-obey
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US proxy war is already doomed.  Putin outplayed the West on this one.   If the US drops anything into Syria at this point it should be packages of food with USA clearly stamped on the labels like they did in Berlin just after the war. No pork of course.  It would provide an interesting contrast from what "made in Russia" products will be dropping on the rebels. It's a death row tradition a nice meal before an execution.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 15:42 | 6569634 NeoRandian
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Well, Ukraine was supposed to distract Russia long enough for the rebels to get rid of Assad, but the Ukrainians have totally failed and/or the rebels didn't do it fast enough. So now time is up. Assad stays. The west takes in 80 gorillion refugees and faces internal destabilization and collapse. And all this for what? To try and build a pipeline so the billionaires could make a few more billions. So many lives destroyed over bullshit.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 16:32 | 6569746 Canadian Dirtlump
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Zerohedge parroting bullshit again. The popular defense forces or formerly jdf are not shiite militias. Syria is overwhelmingly sunni, as are the fighting forces there.

If most fighters in that battle were shia it was because they were shia villages. Way to peddle deceptive / wrong reports in order to simify this war as iran and russia trying to prop up a dictator.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 21:34 | 6570356 Buck Johnson
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What gets me is how easily Obama and his administration have been getting itself out strategized by the Russians.  I mean Russia has defeated all of Obama's ideas he or his people have came up with.  Either his people are doing this on purpose to make him look bad (very good possibility, remember that guy that got into the whitehouse by jumping the fence) or they are inept.

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:09 | 6568803 FireBrander
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This comment intentionally left blank as a comment on my sheer disgust for America's continual "Freedom and Democracy" spreading failures...and the sadness I feel for all of our military personel killed, maimed, or mentally fucked up in the pursuit of "giving" people something they clearly don't want, understand, and are not ready for...Freedom!

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:17 | 6568837 oak
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the way to spread "Freedom and Democracy" should be peaceful.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:51 | 6568920 A Lunatic
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Democracy is a mere stepping stone on the road to Fascism......  

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:31 | 6569326 lincolnsteffens
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"the way to spread "Freedom and Democracy" should be peaceful"....and by example. Unfortunately, since WW-ll we have invaded for greed or propped up dictators that are commercial allies with powerful western economic profiteers.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:18 | 6568840 Carpenter1
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You have fallen squarely into the trap that was laid for you. Let me explain the plan.

 

Have the US attacked on 9-11

Have the reaction already prepared, which is why the US was at war immediately.

US invades....everybody. Beats the shit out of nations that have nothing to do with it, takes oil, does all kinds of unnecessary crap in the name "democracy"

Whole world notices US acting like bully, sentiment turns against the US.

Raise up "liberty" movement with the controlled opposition Ron Paul, who is a mason and therefore one of them.(google Ron Paul giving masonic handshake)

US now prepared to be defeated from within and out.

Cause racial division within US as well through false flag, fake killings.

US will engage in one war too many, which is Syria. This will lead to the US being attacked on home soil, where it will be nuked.

Thus will begin the New USA, whose leaders are Libertarians, gold bugs, etc. All planned. They will follow the narrative of Ron Paul, who says "let's not meddle in others affairs."

This is merely a way of saying, "let the US no longer be a world power."

Everyone will agree, and Russia/China will take the throne of superpower status.

 

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:55 | 6568934 BobPaulson
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Not a lot of up arrows there.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 12:13 | 6569124 Benjamin123
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They'll be happier once the USSA and Afghanistan exchange places. Which could totally happen given enough time.

A thousand years ago Baghdad was the richest city in the world. Few would imagine a thousand years later the position would be held by some european colony in an undiscovered continent.

Sun, 09/20/2015 - 02:52 | 6570814 conscious being
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Same as it ever was. Once, the Classical Greeks considered Rome to be a far off, barely civilized, town.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 15:13 | 6569545 justdues
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I gave you an up arrow for that one Carpenter simply because I like the ending to your story, Libertarians and Gold bugs take control . Yay ! Nice dream and lets hope you are right , the reality I fear will be Agenda 21 feudal corporate facism , cashless slavery under banker overlords . Are we powerless over the biblical promise or can we will to avert it

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 11:00 | 6568947 Omen IV
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drinking at 10 AM?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 16:00 | 6569673 The Indelicate ...
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Have you ever begun to even consider the possibility that you've been brainwashed by some news site or webs site?

I'm not saying this in the standard dickish way - I'm asking you if you have ever considered that you've literally been brainwashed.

Because while it is fair to consider that things may not be as they appear, always, you seem to be either absolutely disconnected to reality, or a paid troll.

But if you believe your own rhetoric - you might want to consider, actively, evidence for different assessments.

If nothing else - what proof do you have of 1 unitary secret group calling all the shots?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:24 | 6568854 PeakOil
Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:30 | 6568863 chunga
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I'd like to see a stinging rebuke that causes the Murikans to reel in their policy of maliciously fucking with everybody's shit all over the world. The trouble is, in order to preserve the petro dollar and reserve status the military must maintain it's aura of invincibility because everything else is coming into question.

Therefore it seems likely they'll do something very stupid to antagonize nuclear armed Russia. Unlike China or other countries, Russian nukes are not in the experimental phase of development and every ICBM they launch is likely to perform flawlessly. 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 11:50 | 6569078 sandhillexit
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U.S. leadership abdicated and let Bibi and Nuland take the Syria fight to Russia's door, using the cousins...nearly everyone in Israel still has a cousin in Ukraine.  Russia was not supposed to respond like this was a existential threat, but they did. First he locked down the Crimea.  Despite hardship, the country is rallying behind Putin.  You won't starve on red beets and chicken, in fact you'll be pretty healthy...that is,  the Russians can outlast the French and Italian farmers who have lost their market.  And the Russians understand that the same Chechen mercs who blow up their trains and schools....and are on the Saudi payroll.....are running training camps now in Syria.  

There might be a deeper "game."  It is highly plausible that the City of London looked around twenty years ago for someone competent, not a klepto and backed the Putin horse to protect their investments in Russia.  Not a bad choice.  The British foreign service is so much more competent than ours.  And they have just reopened their embassy in Teheran, having turned Basra over to the Iranians before they pulled troops out.  USA is so badly served.  

The definitive book on Russian & Jewish relations was written by Solzynitzin.  It's called "200 Years Together" and it has not been translated/published in English.  You can't buy it at Amazon.  THINK about that.  

But that isn't so important right now.  At the level of families living or dying,  2000-year old Christian treasures being obliterated by ISIS Bolsheviks, he is the only thing that stands up to Bibi's lunacy.  The Germans seem to be making the same calculus. They think the US has lost the plot.  

Remember Bibi is expendable. All it takes is a vote of no-confidence by the military. Livni could step up.  BHO isn't going to reach out ot help a 'friend' because...well...

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 12:23 | 6569147 gonetogalt
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Good post. You must be a reincarnation...

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 14:03 | 6569395 AmericanFUPAcabra
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The people of Crimeavoted on a referendum to join Russia and 95+% voted in favor of doing so. Other than that nice post @@

Sun, 09/20/2015 - 03:25 | 6570835 conscious being
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More problems. ... This is OK. "There might be a deeper "game."

But this is BS. "It is highly plausible that the City of London looked around twenty years ago for someone competent, not a klepto and backed the Putin horse to protect their investments in Russia."

Putin was selected by the Jewish oligarch crew that ran Russia, fronted by Yeltsin, to replace Yeltsin, because he was presumed to be an easy to manage wall flower. Boris Behrezovsky, the wealthiest and most powerful of the group, the defacto mafia boss said as much after he was deposed and in exile in Ascot, England. From there, he claimed he would organize a coup and do away with Putin. After about 2 years, Boris changed his tune and wrote Putin a letter, appologizing for everything and asking to please be allowed back. I don't think Vlad answered. Boris wound up suiciding in his own posh digs.

Doesn't sound to me like some coherent City of London plan in action to me. Does it sound "highly probable" to you, SandHill? The richest Jew in Russia wound up dying in exile, his wealth dissipated. That's not how City of London plans are supposed to get run, is it?

As far as protecting investments goes, that just did not happen. In fact the opposite happened. Rusal and Yukos are two good examples that spring to mind. Multi-billion dollar examples where the Jewish oligarch mafia lost their claims. How, in your mind is that "protecting the interests of the City of London"?

Sun, 09/20/2015 - 08:16 | 6571011 sandhillexit
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Please excuse the poetic license "Conscious Being,"  there is only so much room to make a case here after all.  But here's wikipedia:  "The Russia Company was formally incorporated by royal charter on 26th February 1555 as the ‘marchants adventurers of England, for the discovery of lands, territories, iles, dominions, and seigniories unknowen, and not before that late adventure or enterprise by sea or navigation, commonly frequented’. The Company quickly became known as the Russia Company, or Muscovy Company, or Company of Merchants Trading with Russia. The charter gave the Company a legal and corporate basis for its activities, and a monopoly.......The Company’s principal imports from Russia were furs, tallow, wax, timber, flax, tar and hemp. Its principal export to Russia was English cloth....

 

The Company in London appointed agents or ‘factors’ in Russia, hence the term ‘British Factory’ for the group of British agents. The headquarters of the Factory until 1717 was Moscow, when it removed to Archangel. In 1723 the Factory moved again, this time by Imperial decree, to St Petersburg."

 

My point is only that British trade and influence run deep in Russia. Sure, Russian mobsters and money have been given safe-house in London.  Heck, the Eurodollar market was invented to safe-house Russian money during the Cold War.  So what?  It's good business.  Keeps the machinery of the banks well oiled.  They are quick to invest in and improve national treasures like Chelsea FC.  But notice that as much as he blustered Boris could not raise backing to put himself back in and in power.  He died, old and disappointed.  It happens.  He may have helped Putin rise, but Boris was a legend  in own mind.  He probably couldn't remember who had suggested that a native 'Russian' might be a good idea in a leadership position at the national level.

 

It's just that Putin was a lowly mayor of....where was it?  St. Petersburg?  The first city to go back to its Russian, not Bolshevik name, that move alone raised his people's hopes.  The hour maketh the man...but he might have had help....don't know. Said it was plausible.

Sun, 09/20/2015 - 10:06 | 6571127 conscious being
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He had a lot of help. Its no secret that he was selected by the oligarchs running the country. I took exception to your claim that he's safeguarding assets for the usual suspects when the facts tell the opposite story.

Did you look into Yukos and Rusal? Yukos was the multi-billion dollar oil company taken away, taken back from Michael Khordorkovski, who was then thrown in jail for a few years. Rusal was the worlds largest aluminnum producer. It was taken from the state by an oligarch guy who just showed up giving orders. Now he has fled to Israel. He thinks he's waiting for a $20B pay out.

So, enough with the disinfo story that Putin is just another RedShield lackey, because the facts don't support such a claim. Thanks.

Oh, and I don't think he was ever the mayor of St. Petersburg, so where ever you were going with that, it didn't happen. Maybe you should find sources besides Wiki?

 

Sun, 09/20/2015 - 21:46 | 6571755 sandhillexit
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Oh, sorry.  Thought you knew Leningrad was the old name for St. Petersburg.  Before they restored the old, old name.  I didn't say he was a "Redshield lackey," believe it or not, there is more to the City of London than that.  They play with more money than others and can buy a lot of good will but I am saying that British interests in Russia are older than even "they who shoould not be named." 

"After Sobchak won election as mayor of Leningrad (1991), Putin became his head of external relations; in 1994, Putin became Sobchak's first deputy mayor."  (Encyclopedia Britannica).

Sun, 09/20/2015 - 21:45 | 6571758 sandhillexit
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Sat, 09/19/2015 - 15:21 | 6569568 My Days Are Get...
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Excellent summary here:

 

http://www.vho.org/tr/2004/3/Strauss342-351.html

 

Read the last sentence

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 23:21 | 6570551 psychobilly
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"The definitive book on Russian & Jewish relations was written by Solzynitzin.  It's called '200 Years Together' and it has not been translated/published in English.  You can't buy it at Amazon.  THINK about that."

You can buy it on Amazon; just not an English translation.  Some of the chapters have been translated, though:

Kevin MacDonald: Translation of Solzhenitsyn's "In the Camps of GULag" — Chapter 20 of "200 Years Together"

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2010/06/kevin-macdonald-translation-of-solzhenitsyns-in-the-camps-of-gulag-chapter-20-of-200-years-together/

 

"Solzhenitsyn's observations fit well with the findings of historians like Yuri Slezkine showing that Jews were a political and cultural elite in the Soviet Union. Slezkine draws special attention to Jews as Stalin's 'willing executioners' supervising the greatest crimes of the 20th century.

 "Throughout the chapter Solzhenitsyn's brutal honesty shines through. He bends over backward to give examples of Jews who behaved in ways contrary to the general tendencies he and others observed. Nevertheless, he recounts how he was often accused of anti-Semitism simply for recording his observations. It's okay to depict an evil person as a Russian, but never identify him as a Jew.

 "Solzhenitsyn's observations add to the growing evidence of the role of Jews as a hostile elite in the USSR–hostile to the native Russian population and willing to engage in the most brutal crimes against them. This translation is very important for bringing this message to the English-speaking world, if only to dispel the common representation of Jews as always and inevitably historical victims.

"White Americans should think long and hard about what these observations imply for them as they become a minority in a country dominated by hostile minorities, including Jews as a hostile elite."

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:38 | 6568882 godiva chocolate
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The US is neither free nor a democracy itself.  How dare it spread its oligarchy onto other countries.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:57 | 6568943 FireBrander
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The USA in 2015 is the end result of a "Free Market"...it is what happens when the concentration of wealth/power goes unchecked...even ecouraged....Corporate Crony Capitalism...where the bulk of the "profits" fall into the hands of th e few...That is America today.

Show me someone that thinks "Socialism" has brought us to this point, and I'll show you a complete fucken Rightwing moron.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:32 | 6569328 Grimaldus
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I love seeing progressive assclowns squirming, trying to save the brand.

Embrace your progressive suck FireBrander.

Remember if you can, the progressive stupid, it burns.

 

 

Grimaldus

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:42 | 6569330 Billy the Poet
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If the United States has a free market then why do we have to use Federal Reserve notes and follow the regulations of dozens of federal, state and local government agencies? Why are there laws protecting trade unions and minimum wage standards? Why are some medical treatments forced onto individuals while other medical treatments are banned entirely? Why are individuals required to contribute to a retirement program which loses money and to pay for overpriced medical insurance which leaves them no money to actually visit a doctor? Just how many chains can you put on people and still claim that the oozing sores on their wrists and ankles are a result of too much freedom?

Prove to me that the US has a free market. Open your own bank and make loans in your own privately printed currency. Inform the federal government of your activity and then tell me how free you are.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 17:04 | 6569800 FireBrander
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Geez...read what I wrote "end result of"...we do not have a Free Market...

Sun, 09/20/2015 - 20:17 | 6572800 scrappy
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Learn

"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of a pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the fortunes like mine will disappear, and they ought to disappear, for this world would be a happier and better world to live in. But if you wish to remain slaves of the Bankers and pay for the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits." -- Sir Josiah Stamp, President of the Bank of England in the 1920s, the second richest man in Britain

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/allwarsarebankerwars.php

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:47 | 6569358 Bananamerican
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Boys! Boys! There's plenty of fascist oligarchy for both of you...Crony Capitalism and MIC for the Right.....and $ocial Engineering and EBT for the Left!

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 15:19 | 6569558 justdues
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How can you talk of free markets when money itself , the basis of all commerce , is not free but a private monopoly enforced by the state ?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:43 | 6569344 lincolnsteffens
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It used to be that the US was The Republic of the United States of America with democratic principals. The people are the only ones that can reinstate the Republic because the oligarchs are too happy the way it is. The Democracy we have become has been captured by the state and through mind control and intimidation maintain and increase their power under the guise of fair elections.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 11:14 | 6568990 Winston Churchill
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So you think you're free ?

Are hope you just omitted the s/ tag.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 21:30 | 6570344 StychoKiller
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Why does this "Freedom" always seem to involve oil/gas, guns, Munny and power?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:04 | 6568806 Squid-puppets a...
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american strategists. What worms.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 11:02 | 6568956 chunga
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They're all working for a small handful of evil banker money changers that cause so much death and destruction for power and profit.

John Titus (zh's very own cheyenne) came out with another great video presentation on these pigs. The guy's good, he'd make a good contributor Tyler.

Fed Audit Shocker: They Come from Planet Klepto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt377DV2BKs

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 11:28 | 6569026 Bay of Pigs
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Thx for posting this again. Absolutely spot on. Well done John.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 11:41 | 6569058 chunga
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Agreed, Tyler should trade in the phoenix capital guy for John.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:46 | 6569349 Billy the Poet
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John Titus (zh's very own cheyenne)

 

But he looks nothing like Jason Robards!

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:56 | 6569381 Bananamerican
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Cheyenne is info gold

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:04 | 6568807 max2205
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The killing fields.  Putin helping EU to stop the mass exodus as well

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:11 | 6568820 researchfix
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But they will blame him nonetheless.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:32 | 6568869 Usurious
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they always doooooooo............

 

world map of US military installations........

http://empire.is/

Sun, 09/20/2015 - 03:50 | 6570843 conscious being
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They will try to blame him. Let's see if it works this time. Maybe he's in the process of flipping the Zato bankstermafia for real. Many common people stand to benefit if he succeeds in putting down ISUS and ends the Syrian Civil War / Zato merc-army invasion.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:09 | 6568814 Spiritof42
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It's Russian payback time for Afghanistan.

It's not that I'm rooting for the Russians and Syrians. I don't give a shit who stuffs the USSA, NATO and Israel, as long as it's done.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 11:30 | 6569032 1fortheroad
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Nice, a very good way of putening it.      sarc

!!!

I like your style, blog and website.

Thank you

If that pic is really you, that would be totally awesome.

I drove though a little town in New Mexico once, it was called Truth or Consequences, amazing little town.

Your blog reminded me of that.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 12:32 | 6569172 Spiritof42
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Her naked body is awesome too. No it's not me; I'm a male born in 42.

Thanks for the feedback.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:46 | 6569352 1fortheroad
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Hi Sprit of 42

Reading your blog, I understand now.

 

A wise old man, me to somewhat.

I had 2 fathers, one told me never trust the gov and the other one said never volunteer information.

Both were pretty simple men, but high up in the military, my mother had a thing about military men :)

Glad to meet you.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:09 | 6568815 Able Ape
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Finally, an adult, Mr. Putin is handling the Syrian Crisis...the US kids have been set to the detention hall...

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:54 | 6568930 ZippyDooDah
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If "my" government can't stop meddling disastrously in the Middle East, then

I'm only too happy if the Russians can.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:09 | 6568816 souljaboy
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Russia will give the US bogus intel, which the US will give to ISIS. ISIS acts on the intel, and Russia exposes US as the real enemy.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:27 | 6568859 Motasaurus
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Which is completely ignored by the entire Western world and absolutely nothing is done about it. 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:10 | 6568817 atthelake
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101 perfect storms brewing. All of them caused by Americans

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:30 | 6568866 Seal
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Everything the US touches turns to merde

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:12 | 6568824 nnnnnn
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isis will shoot back with bagels

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:16 | 6568825 Smegley Wanxalot
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No worries.  Lindsey Graham, our next President, has all the answers, and with his future Secretary Of State John McCain doing america's intellectual bidding, the middle east will be a prosperous utopia by 2018 at the latest.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:45 | 6568898 samsara
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AND all that ISIS equipment that is being blown up, is the equipment that they 'Captured' from US / Iraq conquests.   (remember all those ammo supply depots right?)

So,  I guess they are blowing up the equipment that you and I paid for with tax dollars going to the MIC...

Thank you senator Lindsey Graham et al.
 (Come out of the closet Lindsey,  the US is tolerant to gays now even in S. Carolina)

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:49 | 6568911 847328_3527
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Graham may be the scariest guy up there yet oddly many MSM were praising him to the sky as "best performer" during the kiddie debates.

 

MSM is so bad it smells like month old greasy Escolar.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 11:22 | 6569013 Winston Churchill
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At least Reggie can keep his job as pole smoker to the Prez.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:23 | 6569311 Caleb Abell
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I' sure that President Linda Graham will keep barry's new army chief on the job.

Sun, 09/20/2015 - 00:09 | 6570670 CheapBastard
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graham will bring back wolfowitz, pearlman, rove, cheney an dmaybe rumsfeld in a flash imo.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 16:01 | 6569681 NeoRandian
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Graham won the debate in my opinion.

"LG, what do you think about Planned Parenthood?"

"We have to kill all the muslims or there won't be any babies to abort!"

"LG, what do you think about the economy?"

"We have to kill all the muslims or there won't be any economy!"

"LG, what do you think about immigration?"

"We have to kill all the muslims or there won't be anywhere to immigrate to!"

"LG, what do you..."

"Don't you get it? We have to kill all the muslims before they throw me off a roof!"

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:12 | 6568826 Bay Area Guy
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I'll laugh my ass off if the response Ash Carter gets from his Russian counterpart on coordinating activities is, "That's ok. We got this."

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:17 | 6568835 rejected
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Still pushing the Russian thing. Standing off to one side egging both opposing forces to see if you can invigorate the fight!

Kind of sad, this war whooping,,, but it'll be interesting to see if President Putin will fall for it.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:17 | 6568836 withglee
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may have turned the tide in the country's four-year civil war.

This is a propaganda marker. Syria is not having a "civil" war. They are under attack by the USA CIA and Israel Mossad.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 16:07 | 6569694 NeoRandian
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Yeah, all the 'good' Syrians gtfo and moved to Europe. 35 million refugees? Uhh, the population of Syria was only like 20 million. Are they really just going to move a few nations worth of people in the Europe?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 19:18 | 6570123 withglee
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Yeah, all the 'good' Syrians gtfo and moved to Europe.

And from the pictures those people are just like you and me. I don't know about you, but no matter what happens around me here in Texas, I don't know anyone who would be inclined to leave. Interlopers beware.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:18 | 6568838 FreeShitter
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As Russia pounds ISIS, Reggie is doing the same.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 11:12 | 6568982 Blankone
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Russia has not fired a shot.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:27 | 6568839 cowdiddly
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Well we could always use our secret weapon; The new GAy seCRetaRy oF thE aRMy. Im sure he will be a game changer.

Paul Craig Roberts is right. America is a place history is fixing to run over.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-to-nominate-first-openly-ga...

What a laughing stock the US has become.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:36 | 6568878 Baby Eating Dingo22
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Don't jump to conclusions

Is he flaming gay or just  regular gay?

A flaming gay will order all armed forces uniforms be made pink with chartreuse chaps and soldiers be allowed to share beds

A regular gay will just recruit better hair stylists

 

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:56 | 6568941 viahj
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actually he's the type of gay that likes to fuck the American tax payer in the ass for more weapon system development while giving the MIC a reach around

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:20 | 6569304 Caleb Abell
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Leaders do make a lasting difference.  Even though Hoover is gone, FBI agemts are still required to shave their legs.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 21:36 | 6570362 StychoKiller
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Please tell me you're making that up (pleeze?!)

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 11:07 | 6568970 joego1
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Hmmmm, I wonder what the recruiting commercials will be like now?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:18 | 6569295 Caleb Abell
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Well, the uniforms will be more fashionable, and when in the field, the troops will have extra storage space for RPGs.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:04 | 6569268 Chuck Knoblauch
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US is the pussy and Russia is the cock.

CFR integration strategy.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 16:08 | 6569695 NeoRandian
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"They won't be laughing when my big gay dick is fucking them in the ass."

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:28 | 6568841 Chuck Knoblauch
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Germany was destroyed in the 20th century.

US will be destrroyed in the 21st century.

We are just waiting for a US Hitler to be ELECTED.

You'll all be manipulated into it.

Jew tyrants are smart.

Will US citizens give up their arms under any circumastances?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:37 | 6568879 mog
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Germany was destroyed in the 20th century.

Don't kid yourself.

It just changed its name to the EUSSR.

Merkel and the other multi culti fanatics intend 20,000,000 islamics to pour into Europe and turn the continent into a bloodbath for the third time in a century.

Leopards don't change their spots - neither do the Germans.

Just how much blood will satisfy the Prussian Empire this time round. 

 

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:46 | 6568896 Chuck Knoblauch
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I think Vlad is smart enough to resist Jew temptations.

The Germans better ally themselves with Russia to preserve their culture.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:49 | 6568910 RagnarRedux
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35 MILLION migrants heading to Europe, says Hungary as it builds second fence

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/606211/35-MILLION-migrants-Europe-Hu...

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 16:14 | 6569704 NeoRandian
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The One takes different forms each iteration through history. In this epoche, He will hold no office, He will sit not in any high tower. He will command from the Internet, which is already firmly established as the Most Knowledgeable Other, the New Father. He will not even be limited to any single body, nor one name. He will simply be everywhere and nowhere, and there will be no way to stop Him.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 16:41 | 6569765 Chuck Knoblauch
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There is always a way.

Most are dead ends.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:23 | 6568850 fritskrach
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One morning you wake up and realize that you are in the wrong camp.

Please don´t let it be.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:28 | 6568862 I AM SULLY
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World war 3 peeps ...

(murder storm)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6z5si2pqFA

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:30 | 6568864 NoWayJose
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I have always wondered how ISIS continues to operate tanks and Humvees across open desert without any coalition air strikes. They have training camps and barracks and offices without worrying about air strikes. They have parades and convoys of vehicles without fear. They operate oilfields and refineries at will, and transport and sell the output. The U.S. is allowing this. Putin will not.

The U.S. wants to track my $10,000 withdrawal, freeze Iranian money, seize Russian billionaire's funds, peek into Swiss bank accounts -- yet cannot track ISIS oil revenues and huge financial transactions?

But at least we will have an openly gay Secretary of the Army!

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 16:28 | 6569733 NeoRandian
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Also seems a little strange that ISIS can openly recruit people through Twitter and Facebook. Would anything remotely similar ever be permitted on any other site?

Keep an eye on the Joshua Goldberg story; I bet the CIA offers him a job after he is debriefed by the FBI.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:31 | 6568867 Crabshacker
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This is soooo embarrassing...

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:31 | 6568868 Monetas
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Putin and Assad .... be careful not to damage the Palmyra ruins .... if ISIS has left any standing ?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 12:23 | 6569144 Max Steel
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they will damage your bibi medical field camps which they are using to heal wounded terorrists . Go run back in your basmement hasbara . 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 16:32 | 6569747 NeoRandian
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Really, who in the FUCK cares about some old rocks from a bunch of dead assholes? Are there any native american ruins left standing anywhere? ANYWHERE?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 21:40 | 6570374 StychoKiller
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Mesa Verde, I've seen them wid ma own too eyes!

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:33 | 6568870 I Write Code
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>the policy of the US with regards to Daesh and other
>Takfiri groups operating in the region is to only have
>them under control and not eliminate them

Even that overestimates the US "policy".  ISIS is not "under control", but the US (aka Saudi) policy is not to eliminate them but to limit their effectiveness in some cases.  Actually I'm not sure the Obama regime is capable of enough coherent thought for it to be a "policy" at all, it sure isn't anywhere in the middle east.

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:34 | 6568872 rejected
Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:52 | 6568908 Chuck Knoblauch
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Who will the Russians target in America?

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 12:24 | 6569155 rejected
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I would suspect that inside the beltway of DC would be target rich.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:09 | 6569280 Chuck Knoblauch
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DC and the Denver Airport.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:08 | 6569277 Caleb Abell
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Only the "exceptional" people.  With luck, all of them.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:40 | 6568885 blue51
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IMO : Does John Kerry's new reversal just mean, US oil & natural gas  magnates are hinting of a possible deal of sharing of all the infrustructure building ,  and eventual profits , with Russian oil companies ? If this is all about the Qatari pipeline supply to Europe.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:42 | 6568890 holdbuysell
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The chances of Fox, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, et al explaining what's really going on in Syria are about as high as the chances of Yellen raising rates.

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ZERO POINT ZERO

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:43 | 6568892 samsara
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And there was a somber mood in Qatar with the realization that that pipeline isn't ever going to be built.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 12:08 | 6569111 Benjamin123
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Doesnt really matter, at all.

The gas might be exported as LNG or used to manufacture easy to export products such as fertilizer or cement. Or left in the ground, its not as if Qatar needs any more money.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 14:35 | 6569459 11b40
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That is not the point. Europe wants the nat gas to pivot away from Russian dependence.
Also, LNG is expensive and dangerous to transport.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 15:20 | 6569555 Fractal Parasite
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Lemme fix that for ya:

Washington wants Europe firmly in its subordination by means of the Qatari pipedream through Syria.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 15:31 | 6569597 Benjamin123
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Dumb excuses.

Is a route through syria even necessary?

The gas could be piped to Israel, or to Egypt if Israel is un-halal. From there via underwater pipeline to Cyprus, then onwards to Turkey.

And hey, what about Iraq? Whats so special about Syria?

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 16:41 | 6569763 NeoRandian
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Oh they won't give up. This will just steel their resolve. First, they will offer America more money to get real crazy. When that doesn't work, then they will start terroring us. When 'ISIS' starts blowing up San Francisco, you better believe Americans will demand we send in the Big Gay Army.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:44 | 6568893 mog
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Latest score.

Half time.

Muslim Obama 0

Christian Putin 100

Assad still well in the game.

Thank God.

 

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:46 | 6568902 bthunder
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You, ZeroHedgers, never seem to learn from history:  "checkmate, courtesy of The Kremlin. " - SERIOUSLY?

35 years ago the CIA lured USSR into Afghanistan, and when the  oil prices dropped in the mid-1980s, the USSR was no more.

Oil prices are already down (son to go down even more thanks to Iran.) The Chinese already refuse to pay prices they agreed to just 8 months ago, and Gazprom is offering Ukraine 50% discounts!), Russia is already is involved in Ukraine, and now it's getting itself stuck in the sandbox in Syria.

How is it different from Afghanistan in 1980s?  And while the USSR could hide the dead in 60000 zinc coffins, do you think in the age of Twitter and Facebook they'll be able to do that?  You think that Russian people are sheepple just like the americans?

Seems to me it's checkmate to Putin, courtesy of the CIA and the Saudis.

 

P.S. When evryone keeps telling a dictator how great and brilliant he is, he starts believing that shit.  Even as state revenues drop by 50%, even as his newest missiles explode at launch and the only target they hit are passenger jets.  His pride takes over and he sends his best forces into the "sandbox" to defend his ally,  a palce where every great army has been defeated.  Checkmate, indeed.

P.P.S.  Since the reports of Russians in Syria has surfaced, there's unusual "quietness" in Eastern Ukraine.  Could it be that Russia cannot conduct war on 2 fronts?  I can't wait until the CIA tests that theory, gives Ukes some of the new weaponry to "probe" russkies closer to thir homeland. 

 

 

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:54 | 6568933 NoBillsOfCredit
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In order to comment you have to be a "Zero Hedger". So, stop insulting yourself, it looks bad.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 10:56 | 6568937 Anunnaki
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The Soviet Union was mostly controlled by dipshit Ukrainians. A big difference Putin is a Russian

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 11:10 | 6568978 bthunder
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It's interesting that you mentioned "control." The  facts however are that the USSR was controlled by Yuri Andropov (first as the boss of the KGB, then as a General Secretary of the Commie Party who replaced Brezhnev) and who happens to be the greatest personal hero of Mr. Putin.

So it's both Zerohedgers and Putin wh do not know the history.  Too bad, so sad.

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 12:23 | 6569148 Max Steel
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Another hasbara cue in 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 14:59 | 6569516 bid the soldier...
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dudeface

Andropov was Secretary General of the Central Committee from November 1982 until February 1984 (15 months).

Shut your babble hole.  You don't know what you're babbling about

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 15:35 | 6569603 Fractal Parasite
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The Georgian Stalin was preparing the Georgian Beria to succeed him, but then Stalin's death by poisoning in 1953 was organized by the putschist Ukrainian Kruschev, who was succeeded by the Ukrainian Brezhnev. Finally the USSR was dismembered by jew puppet Gorbachev, long after it had been established by jew puppet Lenin. Got that? Various Latvians, Poles, etc did their bit along the way too.

All nicely explained in 48 minutes by Lada Ray.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7fHXjHbDag

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 17:32 | 6569874 Lucky Leprachaun
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Putin - mischievously, I imagine - reminded a Jewish audience that 85% of the initial Bolshevik Government were Jews.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 11:03 | 6568958 BendGuyhere
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Jaw-dropping inanity.

"35 years ago the CIA lured USSR into Afghanistan, and when the  oil prices dropped in the mid-1980s, the USSR was no more."

Yes, the brilliant CIA created the TALIBAN, which WE just spent 12 years fighting with 4 TRILLION$ and thousands DEAD, maimed. WAY TO FUCKING GO USA! OH, and now our home-grown USA SHALE OIL 'MIRACLE' has been destroyed by said engineered low oil prices. DUH. Blowback's a bitch.

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 11:17 | 6569000 bthunder
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USA is still here, where's USSR? 

USA (or USSA) is in deep sh*t, but Russia is waaaayyyy  deeper.

Indeed, CIA was brilliant in using the Taliban to defeat USSR. It was Dick 'the Dick" Cheney who caused 12 years of fighting and spent $4T. 

Just let the CIA do their thing and in no time China and USA will be dividing siberian oil amoung themselves, with Putin looking through jail window.

 

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 12:27 | 6569158 Max Steel
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people like you are the first hand product of US brainwashing media ..... muirka : world's retard dumping ground 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 13:06 | 6569274 Winston Churchill
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Your overestimation of the CIA's capabilities leads me to

think you may be one of the drones in their swelled ranks.

Its just as well their ops are secret , because most fuck up.

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 11:17 | 6569001 Volkodav
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useless talkings

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 12:22 | 6569138 rejected
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"How is it different from Afghanistan in 1980s? "

In 1980 the usa debt was 980 billion. Today the ussa debt is 18 trillion dollars (what they admit to)  and growing exponentially.

In 1980 the usa was a manufacturing giant of quality merchandise. Now all the ussa produces is fiat and the tools of war.

In 1980 the usa had robust economy with much opportunity. Today the ussa has no work, no economy and no opportunity unless you call playing in the stock casino's opportunity.

In 1980 the usa had individual privacy and still could depend on the constitution. Today the ussa spies on everyone, and has totally eviscerated the constitution.

In 1980 the usa was at war with no one, for a change. Today the ussa is at war with half the world.

In 1980 the usa had a space program. Today the ussa depends on China and Russia to get people into space.

In 1980 the usa had a president. Today the ussa has a dictatorial executive.

In 1980 Afghanistan was eradicating the opium crop. Today the ussa armed forces guards and ships the bumper crops.

Comparing 1980 to now is like comparing Day to Night.  On September 11, 2001 a darkness descended on the usa which gave birth to the ussa

 

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 14:28 | 6569443 MeBizarro
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This has nothing to due with Afghanistan.  As for the US economy in '80, it was pretty crappy and the only reason we weren't officially at war was because of Carter in the White House.  Plenty on the Hill and in the DOD were pushing for a fight in Central America, Afghanistan, and the Middle East.

I would agree though on several point and since 9-11 we have been a scared, scitterish, anxiety-ridden mess on the whole.

 

 

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