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Carson Says "No Muslim Should Be In Charge Of America" As Fiorina Surges Into Second Place
Going into last Wednesday’s second GOP primary debate hosted by CNN at the Reagan Library, all eyes were again on frontrunner Donald Trump, but this time around, he was forced to share the spotlight with former Hewlett-Packard chief Carly Fiorina, whose polished responses and straightforward demeanor during the second tier debate last month won her a spot on the main stage this time around.
Perhaps sensing that Fiorina was set to go from also-ran to contender, Trump let the following slip in the presence of Rolling Stone’s Paul Solotaroff: "Look at that face! Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president. I mean, she's a woman, and I'm not s'posedta say bad things, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious?”
Well, say what you will about Fiorina but if there’s anything she is it’s serious, and when asked point blank about Trump’s comment at the debate, she turned The Teflon Don's own attack on Jeb Bush against him:
Sadly (in terms of what this says about the state of American politics), that was just about the only notable thing to come out of what ultimately turned out to be a painful, hours-long circus but as you might have surmised from the post-debate punditry parroting, Fiorina managed to steal the show and now, according to the latest CNN/ORC poll released on Sunday, she's rocketed from 3% all the way into second place as Trump slides hard, polling at 24% from 32% (via Reuters):
Billionaire Donald Trump remains in first place in the race to win the Republican presidential nomination for 2016, but his support has fallen to 24 percent from 32 percent previously, a CNN/ORC poll released on Sunday shows.
Former Hewlett-Packard chief executive Carly Fiorina, considered to have performed well in a CNN-sponsored debate of Republican candidates on Wednesday, shot up to second place with 15 percent from only 3 percent in early September, the poll showed.
The poll was conducted among 1,006 Americans from Sept. 17 to 19, and had a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
As for the man who used to be in second place, neurosurgeon Ben Carson, well, he spoke to NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday and offered his take on Muslims in American politics. We present Carson's comments with no further comment.
Via WSJ:
The question was in the context of Donald Trump on Thursday not correcting a New Hampshire town hall questioner who asserted President Barack Obama is Muslim and proposed “getting rid” of purported Muslim “training camps” in the U.S.
“It depends on what that faith is,” replied Mr. Carson, a retired neurosurgeon who is a practicing Seventh-Day Adventist. “If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the Constitution, no problem.”
Mr. Todd asked if Mr. Carson believes Islam is “consistent with the Constitution.”
“No, I do not,” Mr. Carson answered. He then added: “I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.”
Mr. Carson did allow that he could envision backing a Muslim candidate for Congress.
“Congress is a different story,” he said. “But it depends on who that Muslim is and what their policies are, just as it depends on what anybody else says, you know. And, you know, if there’s somebody who’s of any faith, but they say things, and their life has been consistent with things that will elevate this nation and make it possible for everybody to succeed, and bring peace and harmony, then I’m with them.”
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I wonder if any leader in the Middle East ever said: "No Christian should be in charge of a Muslim country."
No Muslim Leader need ever say that. Christians in Muslim countries have not been looked upon as citizens. They are there to pay a Christian Tax or the convert to Islam.
Christians in Muslim countries are dhimmis, if they are lucky. Otherwise they are killed.
Christians in Muslim countries are dhimmis, if they are lucky. Otherwise, they are killed.
It's about government using religion as a tool.
If a government calls itself a Muslim government all other religions are painted as a threat.
Muslims in Western countries are demonized just as Christians are in so-called Muslim countries.
Government is THE problem.
Since the idea is unthinkable to a muslim they would not say it.
they dont need to say it. its not possible.
Cracks me up that even here people believe that any of this matters. Are you not entertained citizens?
Yeah, what a red herring. 'Hey - look over there!'.
His comment is a bit late. Though he may realize that.
"No Muslim could become president in a secular regime, for in order to pledge loyalty to the constitution, a Muslim would have to abandon part of his belief and embrace the belief of secularism which is practically another religion. For Muslims, the word religion does not only refer to a collection of beliefs and rituals, it refers to a way of life which includes all values, behaviours, and details of living."
"So how are Muslims to approach the modern trend of separation of religion and state? The basic belief in Islam is that the Quran is one hundred percent the word of Allah, and the Sunna was also as a result of the guidance of Allah to the Prophet sallallahu allayhe wasalam. Islam cannot be separated from the state because it guides us through every detail of running the state and our lives. Muslims have no choice but to reject secularism for it excludes the law of Allah." Dr. Ja`far Sheikh Idris
Dr. Jaafar Sheikh Idris is considered one of few Muslim Scholars of this era who comprehended the knowledge of Islam and Western Ideologies. He authored many articles and research papers. He visited many countries around the world where he lectured in Arabic and English.
Dr. Jaafar Sheikh Idris was born on 15th June 1931 in Port Sudan, Sudan. He grew up in the city of Port Sudan where he completed his elementary and secondary school. In addition to the modern school system, he studied Quran in traditional Quranic schools. He also studied Fiqh, Hadith and Arabic Language under traditional teachers in the city and studied Aqida with Ansar al-Sunnah group. He finished his high school in Hantoob High School, in Al-Jazeera province, one of three high schools in the country then. Admission was very hard but he made it due to his high academic records. After that he joined University of Khartoum where he completed his education and traveled to London for post graduate studies..
Consultant for various Islamic Organizations around the world.
Chariman of the founding council of the American Open University.
Professor of Islamic Studies and Director of the Research Center of The Institute of Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America.
Professor of Islamic studies, Departments of Aqida, Dawa and Information, Imam Muhammad Ibn Saud Islamic University, Saudi Arabia. Taught graduate courses of Aqeedah (Islamic Creed), Theology and Contemporary Ideologies.
Associate Professor of Islamic Studies, Dept. of Islamic Culture, Riyadh University.
Lecturer, Department of Philosophy., University of Khartoum
Unless living in a Muslim country as a second class citizen, a Christian, atheist or for that matter anyone of any other Religion other than Islam, is not capable of understanding what you have posted.
The Western mind almost always gravitates to the Western Concepts of Governance and Religion. Western minds most often see the world as a kumbaya campfire, where will all sing the same songs and agree to get along. The comparative analysis of Islamic thought vs Western thought almost never happens. That thinking may one day destroy Western Civilization
Obama did.
And to think the entire thing started with a bunch of Kuwaitis horizontal drilling into Iraqi oil deposits. Then came the killing babies in the incubators. Saddam even requested and received assurances that the incursion would not offend Washington. Well we all know how that went.
Then we got 9/11 where 15 of the supposed 19 hijackers were Saudi. The others were from the UAE, Egypt and Lebanon. Of course the usa immediately (same day) blamed OBL and invaded Afghanistan to get him. While there it decided it would show Afghans how they should really run their country. Never did find OBL in his secret Afghanistan cave but eventually found him in Pakistan. OBL, the longest living person in the world with renal disease fought gallantly but unfortunately died in the attack and was buried at sea with dignity,,, never to see a courtroom. Soon after, the entire heroic Seal Team that killed him was itself killed.
Right after the Afghan invasion was the second invasion of Iraq to get their WMD's they didn't have. While there we decided to show the Iraqi's how they should run their nation. That turned out as successful as our tutoring did in Afghanistan. Not all was lost however,,, the Afghan poppy crops tripled as did the CIA's profits!
Then came our freedom liberation bombing of Libya. Another bell ringing display of nation building. Our gun running embassy was attacked and the boss man killed and we still can't figure out why?
Now bombing Yemen and Syria,,, and the whole damn thing has went from one nation stealing oil from another nation to a full blown religious war between Islam and it appears everyone else.
With all our past successes we are now employing the same winning tactics in Ukraine. Pay for a regime change,,, take over,,, steal resources and blame it on someone else.... those damn Christian Russians.
Makes all the sense in the world!
You conspiracy theorist, you!
;-)
and good ole cunt April Glaspie.
Just think of her karma, does she hear the voices of the Iraqi's screaming in the night?
"OBL, the longest living person in the world with renal disease fought gallantly but unfortunately died in the attack and was buried at sea with dignity"
Two minor points related to your comments:
1. When they televised the tour of OBLs supposed hideout, there was no dialysis machine. Obl was truly a medical miracle.
2. Burial at sea is not a Muslim funeral practice. It is a Mafia funeral practice.
Well, I was being just a little sarcastic...
Are you implying that Arabs didn't hijack the planes and fly them into the WTC? Well they found one of their passports in perfect condition in one of the collapsed buildings. So there!
Ben is 999 all over agian "I would never hire a Muslim"
Carly is Mitt!
It was always going to be Mitt.
Just watch the up and down of all like what they did to Ron Paul.
See ya Donald
personally I swore to never vote again after what they did to Ron Paul twice.
Donald is no Ron Paul sir. Ron Paul is and always has been a statesman. Donald is an opportunist, I would no sooner vote for his lying ass than I would Hitlary's. I'll sit this one out again.
here,here....
Dr Carson believes the world is 6000 years old, cannot vote for him
He also is pro mandatory vaccine.
and presumably that Dinosaurs and people co-existed at one time
8 downvotes... wow zh full of retards
want it or not christianity and islam is both nothing more but stupid copies/extensions of original semitic religion
Joan Rivers, if still alive, might have said "we already do - and it's okay."
Fiorina, the broad sunk HP's stock, got fired and then got paid for the insult of her tenure with a golden parachute. Fuck her. She's a RINO.
Hey everyone dazzled by Trump's retarded facial expressions: Ted Cruz is over there saying all the right things without acting like a clown. Just sayin'.
Ted Cruz is not acting like a clown.
Acting is not involved in any way.
I still say Obama has no intention of leaving. There will a crisis next year that will require him to stay on and "save" us
If Carson wasn't black nobody would have ever heard of him.
We shouldn't even allow muslims to live in this country. Duh.
The social justice warriors are going to have a field day with this
muslims can lie if they are engaged in Jihad so who is to say that some atheist or christian is not actually a jihadist
The real problem with Ben Carson is that he talks so slow that it puts people to sleep. With him doing better in the polls, more people are actually staying awake until his third or fourth sentence -- and they are not liking what they hear. He is a marginal conservative.
in any country slimy jews always put non-jew as presidents (at least most of them do not admit their jew-ancestors) and then the goat leads the sheeps to the slaughterhouse
who was put in key positions after election? jews
-rahm
-bernanke
-summers
-orszag
-geithner
-axelrod
what was obamas main agenda?
-gays gay-marriage gay-promotion
-immigration legalisation of 5 million illegals idea of open borders bringing muslims to usa and europe
-war with russia cutting off europe from russia in trade and relations creating boogeyman idea of putin
-spying iphone android google facebook twitter etc
-ukraine syria iran iraq yemen destabilisation and isis nuclear race
-police reformation and first steps of peparation of new gun-law/prohibition
-radicalisation of black people in usa, creating race war blaming white people
-printing money destroying middle class destroying jobs and opportunities cannabis legalisation
Carson didn't go far enough. I believe no human is fit to be in charge of America.
The genius Muslim kids clock exposed;
http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/muslim-boys-cool-clock-is-a-fraud-says-expert/
It's 'Dr. Carson'.
First time I have seen Dr. Carson actually lie; he knows based on what Scripture says that Obama is NOT a Christian. He said he believed Obama at his word and yet any Christian, and I believe that Carson is a Christian and knows the word of God better than most Christians. Therefore he knows what is very obvious; Obama is a Christian as he is honest.
This why politics will never fit well with a Christian in the evil days in which we live. I predict that Carson will bow out in the next month or so because his conscience will not allow him to continue. God bless you Ben; i was hoping God may show U.S. the path of peace and reason, but we are far beyond that, for we have mocked and blasphemed the name of God and He will not be successfully mocked by any created thing.
Nor should any black person. Oh wait, saying that is wrong, prejudiced and racist. OK to be an Islamophobic though...
If they had a "legal" election today, Trump would win in a landslide. Come November 2016, Trump would still win a "legal" election, hands down.
But the entire Zionist system is corrupt, top to bottom. They own; the other auditioning candidates, MSM. Judges. Cops. Military, Banks, presstitutes, and most importantly The Ballot Box. I'm hoping the revolution begins long before we have to go through another "McCain" type candidate rising from the dead.