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Mandatory Breathalyzers Could Soon Be In Every Car If Feds Have Their Way

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Submitted by John Vibes via TheAntiMedia.org,

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) and the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers is currently working on a plan to put alcohol detection systems in every vehicle. The plan, called Driver Alcohol Detection System for Safety (DADSS), is still in its early stages, and they have not yet decided exactly how it will be implemented.

Some have suggested a system similar to Interlock, the breath system that people are required to install in their cars after they get a DUI. The device prevents the vehicle from starting unless the driver is able to breathe into the device to prove  they are not under the influence of alcohol. However, less complicated equipment is being devised, like sensors that test the alcohol level in the breath of the driver as they sit in the driver’s seat or a touch system that would detect alcohol levels through the skin.

This technology will not just be used for DUI cases, though. The NHTSA is actually hoping to implement this in every vehicle on the road. As it wrote in one of its recent reports:

“While government regulations play an important role in ensuring vehicle safety, voluntary approaches to the design and implementation of vehicle safety systems are increasing in importance as vehicle manufacturers deploy safety systems well in advance of, and even in the absence of, government regulations requiring them. This paper provides an overview of regulatory and non-regulatory approaches to vehicle technology development and deployment, and will describe a new, innovative public/private partnership underway to develop an in-vehicle alcohol detection system.”

The report went on to indicate that these devices would be mandatory:

“In recognition that many alcohol-impaired drivers have not been convicted of DWI, an effort is underway to develop advanced invehicle technologies that could be fitted in vehicles of all drivers to measure driver blood alcohol concentration non-invasively. The Automotive Coalition for Traffic Safety (ACTS, a group funded by vehicle manufacturers) and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) have commenced a 5- year cooperative agreement entitled Driver Alcohol Detection System for Safety (DADSS) to explore the feasibility of, and the public policy challenges associated with, widespread use of invehicle alcohol detection technology to prevent alcohol-impaired driving.”

They are calling this technology “non-invasive” but it tests the content of your blood every time you get into your vehicle, which by its very nature is extremely invasive.

As it stands right now, the way  the state deals with drunk driving is tyrannical and infringes upon everyone’s rights - even people like myself, who hardly ever drink. Economist Jeffrey Tucker wrote an article on this subject and discussed the problems with the status quo while offering some solutions, as well. In his article, he said:

“Laws against drunk driving have vastly expanded police power and done nothing to stop the practice. The best prevention against unsafe driving from drinking has been provided privately: friends, services offered by bars and restaurants, community interest groups, etc. This is the humane and rational way societies deal with social risks. The police have only messed up this process by adding a coercive element that targets liberty rather than crime.

 

And we can see where this is heading. Texting is now illegal in most places. So is talking on the phone. Maybe talking itself should be illegal. Some communities are talking about banning eating. All of this is a distraction from the real issue.”

As Radley Balko has said:

If our ultimate goals are to reduce driver impairment and maximize highway safety, we should be punishing reckless driving. It shouldn’t matter if it’s caused by alcohol, sleep deprivation, prescription medication, text messaging, or road rage. If lawmakers want to stick it to dangerous drivers who threaten everyone else on the road, they can dial up the civil and criminal liability for reckless driving, especially in cases that result in injury or property damage.

 

Doing away with the specific charge of drunk driving sounds radical at first blush, but it would put the focus back on impairment, where it belongs. It might repair some of the civil-liberties damage done by the invasive powers the government says it needs to catch and convict drunk drivers. If the offense were reckless driving rather than drunk driving, for example, repeated swerving over the median line would be enough to justify the charge. There would be no need for a cop to jam a needle in your arm alongside a busy highway.

 

Scrapping the DWI offense in favor of better enforcement of reckless driving laws would also bring some logical consistency to our laws, which treat a driver with a BAC of 0.08 much more harshly than, say, a driver distracted by his kids or a cell phone call, despite similar levels of impairment. The punishable act should be violating road rules or causing an accident, not the factors that led to those offenses. Singling out alcohol impairment for extra punishment isn’t about making the roads safer. It’s about a lingering hostility toward demon rum.”

There is no doubt that drunk driving should be discouraged and that solutions to prevent people from driving drunk should be explored. However, it is entirely possible to do this without violating anyone’s rights in the process.

 

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Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:26 | 6575723 kaiserhoff
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I have no problem with this, as long as there is a high voltage electric cattle prod stuck up the ass of every politician and kleptocrat in the nation..., and we've all got clickers;)

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:27 | 6575739 SethDealer
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this is muther fucking bullshit

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:09 | 6575989 HardAssets
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Contact that kid who got handcuffed for building an electronic clock.

Bet he could disable this thing.

New biz opportunity.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:13 | 6576012 Pool Shark
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Question: Who is supposed to breath into the breathalayzer in those Google Driverless cars?

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:24 | 6576072 Usurious
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will auto insurance be required when I purchase my driverless car.......

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 20:48 | 6577044 JLee2027
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Driverless cars will put a lot of people out of the Tyranny business...which is why they are obviously delaying it. We have the technology now.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:35 | 6576119 sdmjake
Mon, 09/21/2015 - 17:09 | 6576256 83_vf_1100_c
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  This is 1984 playing out before your eyes. Kind of sucks, don't it?

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:28 | 6575745 Sudden Debt
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What the article doesn't really mention is that it costs 2500 dollar for 1 system.

I guess some lobbying was done and a few dickheads will be filthy rich.

But you'll all pay 2500 dollars.

Do you drive a wreck worth 500 dollars? Don't worry!!! It will soon be worth 3000 dollars after you bought the 2500 dollar breath analyzer!!!

 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:34 | 6575771 El Vaquero
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Yeah, I read that and my first thought was that somebody would stand to make a lot of money.  But when the feds get to the task of making sure that one is outfitted on every car, they'll find that enforcing it is logistically impossible, because a lot of people simply won't do it because they can't, or, as in my case, won't.  The only place that they could get away with it is on new cars, and that is for logistical reasons.  Fuck'em. 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:43 | 6575832 Luck Dragon
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You won't?

 

Do you register and inspect your car? Do you have insurance?

 

Wait for the road blocks with compliance checks. Wait for states refusing to register your vehicle because it doesn't have the necessary safety equipment.

 

 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:51 | 6575877 XitSam
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You know how angry the serfs are at the police right now? Multiply that a few times. Now do you want to man* a checkpoint?

* Yes, this cis white male is mansplaining and doesn't give a shit about your new vocabulary & grammar rules.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:27 | 6576085 El Vaquero
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How many people won't be able to get to some shit job because they cannot afford to retrofit one into their shitbox? 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 19:18 | 6576729 BigJim
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But just think how much more employment there would be if they were $4500 each? Think of GDP! -- Paul Krugman, swooning

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:48 | 6575861 boattrash
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I see myself making millions of $$ selling black market, canned, "Clean Breath".

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:11 | 6575996 Sudden Debt
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Why waste money on that?

Just ask any woman on the street if she wants to make a few bucks for blowing your tube.

And if she missunderstood you... well... money well spend.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:30 | 6576098 boattrash
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It would likely be a lady cop, working a soliciting sting. (They'll have to justify their existence somehow, just as the revenuer bastards did when prohibition ended and they became the "gun police") aka ATF

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:23 | 6576070 agent default
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The only ones who will get rich from this is compressed air can manufacturers. But I think a bicycle pump may also do.  All these new hi-tech security features appearing on pretty much everything are just snakeoil.  Funny as hell when haxx0red, but still snakeoil.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 18:10 | 6576466 live free
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I don't know why anyone things the designers are that stupid.  Since I may have had a brush in this arena, I did some research.  They are currently very hard to actually beat.  Temperature, volume, and velocity are the input variables (with other dependent on device).  Other variables are plugged into your engine management system to detect engine actuation and also accelerometers that if detect movement (and I'm sure other now).

Not to mention you have to retest every 10-20 minutes WHILE DRIVING -Talk about being distracted.  A study I found concluded it was just as dangerous if not more than texting or driving over the limit......  but it's for the kids.

Believe me... I saw the opportunity too.

 

 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:37 | 6575789 KnuckleDragger-X
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Apparently they are trying to discourage buying new cars, which is fine by me since I'm not going to buy one. My vehicles are decades old and still work just fine and if they break, I can ix them easily......

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:46 | 6575844 Almost Solvent
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You are not thinking like a politician (which is good) - you can not renew your registration with out adding an aftermarket device. Let that sink in. That will be where the used car market will get hit on this one. 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:52 | 6575882 boattrash
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At those prices, we could all install turret mounted .50 Cals...Hell, that sounds like more fun than drunk driving.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:02 | 6575944 pods
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Ma Deuce and some road sodas.
Toss in the assless chaps and you have Mad Max.

pods 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 19:12 | 6576699 divingengineer
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Ahh...assless chaps.

That brings me back.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 17:18 | 6576294 Osmium
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Just toss a few drinks in with the .50 cal and DOUBLE your fun!

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:02 | 6575941 Sudden Debt
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Good point.

They'll make it cheaper on the new cars and expensive on the old cars. And that will make many old cars unaffordable.

And for those who won't be able to buy a car anymore...

well, they'll be helping push back the greenhouse scam.

And they'll get it through, first they'll show commercials where a kid is run over and killed by a dirty old man and everybody will rally behind the new system.

Once it's passed, they'll tell you how much it costs.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 18:58 | 6576630 Omen IV
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they dont want the people to be able to drive - they want them to take a bus or a bike - raise the cost to unaffordability  - we are talking about multiple ways to irradicate 90% of the population - too expensive to have kids - house - apartment - food - drugs - insurance........die faster and faster

bottom 90% are being squeezed out via defacto rules based discrimination - cant pay the parking ticket go to jail!

 

this country is not the place i grew up in - very very strange place

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:30 | 6576100 Shad_ow
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Ding, ding, ding!  We have a winner.  Somebody is offering a kickback.

 

I never drink and drive and I say "HELL NO!"

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:41 | 6575815 gladih8r
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I'll take 2 clickers pls.  one for each hand.

 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:46 | 6575846 Normalcy Bias
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John Boehner's car, will of course, be exempt.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:53 | 6575890 XitSam
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Because politicians are honest, law abiding citizens. -- Mary Jo Kopechne

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:10 | 6575991 itstippy
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No, John Boehner's car won't be exempt.  Like all Americans, Washington politicians want to know if their drivers have been drinking.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 18:59 | 6576650 Omen IV
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you're dreaming  - they will have exemption with a kill switch

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:32 | 6576104 Shad_ow
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Will minorities and "immigrants" who cannot afford to pay the extra cost be fined.

No, we will be fined for them and then forced to pay for theirs.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:53 | 6575889 steelhead23
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I'm fine with it too - as long as mine is made by Volkswagen.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:59 | 6576216 pods
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Well played my fishy friend. Well played.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:05 | 6575962 BennyBoy
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Mandatory Truthalyzers Could Soon Be Used During Every Politicians Speech If We The People Have Their Way
Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:06 | 6575968 chrsn
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This has about as good a chance of going into production as a gun with facial recognition.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 21:16 | 6576149 JuliaS
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MagnaVolt. No embarrassing alarm noise, no need to trouble the police... and it won't even run down your battery!

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:44 | 6576163 Victor von Doom
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"I have no problem with this, as long as there is a high voltage electric cattle prod stuck up the ass of every politician and kleptocrat in the nation..., and we've all got clickers;)"

Better yet, link the tech. Every time we have to blow in the breatherliser to start the car the cattle prods activate.

Sounds fair to me. In fact it would make me even want to use it.

 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:54 | 6576202 rubiconsolutions
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"Daddy, why do you keep asking me to blow into that thingee before we go for a drive?"

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 18:03 | 6576441 emersonreturn
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gonna make a lotta lawyers happy

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:27 | 6575728 MFL8240
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Wow, another great way for the smart people in government to watch over us little dumbbells!  These are the same great people who built up the 20 TRILLION in debt!  Which one of the US Communist party thought this one up?

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:36 | 6575784 Sudden Debt
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A few months back, I was shitfaced drunk and I realized I couldn't drive anymore so, I slept on the backseat of my car. A great way to mess up your back by the way.

And in the middle of the night, 2 cops knocked on my window while I was sleeping.

I had to get out and to a alcohol test, 2.4 promille. 

While I was not driving the car, that shit will come up in court and could cost me 1250 euro's in fines and a month that I have to turn in my drivers license.

It's nothing to do with safety. It's money. Fines and fees.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:46 | 6575845 BeaverCream
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This is one of the reasons that pot, hell basically every drug, hasn't been completely legalized yet.  There isn't an accurate enough machine that can test for it on the side of the road. 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:55 | 6575899 BandGap
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Correct.

Unfortunately, alcohol is easy enough to detect in breath.

Also, there is no "impairment" level for pot, analogous to the 0.08% legally "drunk" level we have now for booze. i am sure this will be worked on.

Funny, I fell asleep in the front seat of my car, not super drunk but drinking, and the cops woke me up. It was a little over 20 years ago. They told me to get a cab or walk home. I was in a bad neighborhood they said. At least they were looking out for me. How times have changed.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:36 | 6576123 skeelos
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I can't agree with that.  The reason the laws exist is to provide profits to the drug companies.  The only reason pot was made illegal was because it is too easy to produce on your own.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:56 | 6575909 City_Of_Champyinz
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Same thing happened to my roomate, he did the right thing by sleeping it off.  The stupid fucking police gave him a DUI anyway because he was in his car and had the keys in his posession, despite the simple fact that he was ASLEEP IN THE BACK SEAT.  When I picked him up the next morning I told the cops off in epic fashion, and promised them that every single person who ever hears this story of these cops being INCREDIBLY stupid would to a man drive home instead of getting a DUI while fucking sleeping & 'doing the right thing'.  So stupid.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:09 | 6575974 BeaverCream
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The problem is that not enough people fight this bullshit so they can get away with tyranny.

Look, if you get fucked with by the police and you're legitimately in the right, which you are if you're fucking sleeping in your car, you have to fight the charges.  

I fought the law once on a charge like this, I gave my lawyer 3 grand and the state only got 200 bucks out of me instead of 5,000.  Also I had no charge on my record...because I fought.  The judge was so pissed she made the prosecuting attorney make an impromptu statement in court apologizing to victims of drunk drivers right before I walked out with a shit eating grin on my face.  She couldn't believe that someone was coming into her cunty fem-fiefdom and justice was actually being served.

 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:16 | 6576032 negative rates
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When all you  really had to do was explain to the cops that you wer'nt driving so how can you be arrested for drunkin driving.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:27 | 6576087 BeaverCream
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Lol, say you dindu nuffin?

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:47 | 6576180 negative rates
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You talk like an on duty detective.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:47 | 6576178 ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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Reading your post along with the reasoning of Radley Balko reminds me that its no accident that the way the govt chooses to fight "drunk driving" violates a butt load of our civil rights. 

 

The alternative of punishment for accidents and road rule violations would strip the govt of a lot of its powers and more importantly restore the idea that the individual is responsible for that happens and should pay dearly when they hurt others.   Notice how you could suggest life in prison for anyone who causes an accident drunk and it won't sway anyone who wants the limit lowered to say, 0.05.   They aren't interested in accountability.

 

It reminds me a bit of the idea of scrapping the income tax and funding the state entirely with a consumption tax.  Because the consumption tax can be collected relatively anonymously, it would be extremely uninteresting to the govt.

 

Or maybe I'm way wrong and driverless cars are nearly here and GM and Ford just want the experience of driving yourself to be made comparitavely tedious and humiliating.  "Who *needs* to drive their own car anyway unless they are planning a terrorist attack?"  Might be a commonly heard argument 10 years from now.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 17:28 | 6576323 still kicking
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In the US you can legally bypass it by shoving your keys up under the bumper or inside the tire rim under the car.  Technically you don't have the keys on you.  It's still shitty those bastards try to bust you for being responsible.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:26 | 6575729 BeaverCream
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It will never happen.  This would completely eliminate billions and billions of dollars in revenue from DUI charges.  Lawyers will never let this be a thing.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:31 | 6575760 IridiumRebel
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Ding Ding Ding!

That's why we will never go cashless.

Black Op money would go bye bye from drug sales.

All about money.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:33 | 6575769 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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if we went cashless all the deep state would have to do for financing is to make a few big hacks, then blame it

on the Russian mob, or the Chinese, easy-peasy

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:03 | 6575952 boattrash
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I R, great in theory, but keep two things in mind when it comes to the cashless plan. 1. as always, there will be two sets of laws, ours and theirs. 2, heavy taxes on cash (anytime they distribute, or find it) as a deterrent.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:38 | 6575797 Keynesians say ...
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This X infinity

 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:48 | 6575858 ZeroPoint
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 Big booze will also get involved. If you can't go out to the local watering hole and have a have a burger, watch the game, and knock a few back, they lose a huge percentage of sales.

 

 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:50 | 6575872 you enjoy myself
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Yeah, it's similar to the 50-state settlement with tobacco companies:

- Your products have terrible health consequences for our citizens and should be banned.

- Ok, we'll agree to give you a bigger cut of all our sales.

- Sounds good.  Please continue going about your business.

 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:26 | 6575733 curbyourrisk
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In order for this to actually work, you would need to install CAMERA'S as well, to make sure the person blowing is actually the one driving.  YEAH, like that is gonna go over well with the people.  Oh wait, the people are fucking stupid.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:30 | 6575752 kaiserhoff
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You have to admit, the videos would be funny as hell on Youtube.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:09 | 6575987 messymerry
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Oh, no no, these videos would be stored in "Big Brother's Black Box" which you as a mere peasant would not have access to.  Only the legally recognized agents of the state can examine a car's black box...

;-D   

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:30 | 6575755 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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I've trained my dog.  Now if I could just get her to pay the state fees and drive.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:04 | 6575954 Professorlocknload
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Maybe be one should be required to pass an IQ test before driving. Oh, wait, how would law dogs get around?

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:11 | 6576001 messymerry
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Really!  You shouldn't talk this way about our "Pooches in Blue".

Tra la la la la,,,

;-D  

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:20 | 6576060 GoldenGeezer
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Here in Northern VA all of the new interlock systems have camaras in them. It's already in the law as of (I think) June of this year.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:32 | 6576106 skeelos
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So now instead of designated drivers we're going to have designated blowers.  Doesn't sound so bad when you put it that way.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:27 | 6575738 Chuck Knoblauch
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10th Amendment

US Constitution

Go fuck yourselves

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:39 | 6575802 El Vaquero
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The 10th Amendment is about as useful as the shotgun in your gun safe while an attacker is beating your ass with a baseball bat. 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:47 | 6575849 The Indelicate ...
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agreed.

So obvious, by its own terms, is it that the 10th amendment limits {or, reiterates the limits} of federal power that the Left has ignored it - to the extent that "Tenther" is an insult used by top academic Leftist lawyers.

In other words - someone who thinks the 10th Amendment exists, and means what it says, is "stupid" for the Left.

In other words, legal analysis that has grown allergic to the Constitution has relied more and more on arbitrary and capricious 'interpretations' that stray into amendment... and if you don't like it, fuck you.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:30 | 6576102 skeelos
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Mentioning the 10th Amendment puts you on the list of likely terrorists.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:38 | 6576136 juggalo1
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Interstate highway traffic and national motor-vehicle standards are federal concerns.  In theory a manufacturer could thwart the policy by only manufacturing and selling in one state, and only licensing the car for intrastate traffic, but the courts have ruled against that interpretation in the past.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 20:26 | 6576960 durablefaith
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Nullification without interposition is entrapment. 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:27 | 6575743 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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hopefully we'll soon have driverless vehicles and we can all ride around shitfaced; it's a brave new world

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:39 | 6575803 Hype Alert
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Just think, your teenage kids can go parking in the back seat without actually parking.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:29 | 6576091 Billy Sol Estes
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to hell with that, life is a carnival ride already, we don't need to implement it literally. besides, some of us enjoy driving.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:29 | 6575751 Bilderberg Member
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Hand me the "Chappaquidick stick", I need to start my car!

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:54 | 6575893 Arnold
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Perfect.

 

 

(what's a chappawhosis Grandpa?)

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:32 | 6575762 HippieHaulers
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Does this mean I'll have to wait to start drinking until after I'm already driving. Dastardly!

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:59 | 6575922 Bunghole
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Hell no.  Just leave your car on idle when your in the bar.

Emissions for everyone.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:32 | 6575764 ToSoft4Truth
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We'll be safe.  Sounds good to me.

The 2005 Real ID Act took 10 years to kick-in.  When does this new Safety Law kick-in?  2020? 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:34 | 6575770 Dick Gazinia
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I propose that we install a "sperm-a-lizer" breath test in the oval office.  

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:35 | 6575776 jerry_theking_lawler
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Wonder if it'll detect methane??

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:13 | 6576015 messymerry
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Yes, they are coming out with a "pootalyzer" model.  See above...

;-D  

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:35 | 6575777 aliki
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then ill have mandatory uber thursday, friday, saturday nites

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:37 | 6575795 richiebaby
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Fuck, I live in an extreme fire zone. I'm literally toast if I've been drinking Fireball and can't start my truck when a brushfire breaks out

The papers will have fun with that one

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:06 | 6575966 Sanity Bear
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or if you've had two drinks and your buddy has had 20 and needs to be rushed to the hospital for alcohol poisoning...

 

or if a woman who's had a few drinks needs to flee from a rapist...

 

We could put together an endless list of circumstances where needing to move or use a car is more important than making sure it doesn't start for someone with a little bit of alcohol in their system.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 19:43 | 6576813 Miffed Microbio...
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If there were any justice, the woman trying to escape from the rapist would be the one instrumental for getting the law passed because she wanted the world " safer".

I have drawn at least 50 people for legal blood alcohol testing. My record was 0.45 and if it weren't for the overwhelming alcoholic breath, I never would have guessed he was drunk. I sat on his bed and we had a nice talk. We actually debated the merits of Schopenhauer of whom I detested at the time. When I finally drew his blood he shook my hand " you're ok kid".

Back in the lab I damn near fell off my stool when I ran it. I recalibrated my instrument and it repeated. Most people would be dead with such a high BA. Fascinating man. I wished I had got to know him better, obviously his life story would have been interesting.

I've drawn other people who could not walk a straight line and came out 0.04. People cannot be pigeonholed no matter how determined those who wish to control our lives claim it is possible.

Miffed

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 21:21 | 6577174 SillySalesmanQu...
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+ 1000 Miffed. LOL, I probablly resembled that gentleman you are speaking of 25 years ago, got my only DUI, passed all the field sobriety tests and the two cops were laughing their asses off when I blew a 0.32 BAC.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 21:23 | 6577215 Government need...
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If this shit happens, you can bet a serial rapist will take advantage of it.  Step 1: go to bar, buy 3 free rounds for your target.  Step 2: annoy her into leaving the bar.  Step 3: Wait for her .gov-mandated breathalyzer to kill her engine.  Step 4: Rapey, rapey!

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:38 | 6575800 Tjeff1
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I would rather take my chances with the drunks.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:41 | 6575813 Salzburg1756
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How often do you have to check the system to see that it's working properly? Any volunteers?

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:41 | 6575818 adr
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Just make everything a mandatory dick up the ass system.

Everything with a seat will have a 6" protrusion that measures all vital signs. At first some women will like it, but then they will be told, "No it doesn't go there, it goes in your ass."

 

Why does everything today remind me of Idiocracy?

This one goes in your mouth, that one goes in your ear, and put that one in your ass. Oh wait, no. That one goes in your mouth, that one goes in your ear, and that one goes in your ass.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:57 | 6575910 headhunt
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South Park Unicycle

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:07 | 6575973 Sanity Bear
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look at the acronym... DADSS

 

now try to pronounce it

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:47 | 6576176 Bopper09
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It sometimes is a little disturbing that south park always has the answer.  Fuck I love that show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JscQXDsSgco

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:41 | 6575819 Jstanley011
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“We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your bilogical and tecnological destinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.”

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:52 | 6575879 Billy the Poet
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Locutus: Why do you resist? We only wish to raise quality of life, for all species.

Lieutenant Worf: I like my species the way it is!

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:55 | 6575901 headhunt
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Are you muslim?

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 17:09 | 6576253 Jstanley011
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“We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your bilogical and tecnological destinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.”

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:46 | 6575848 yellowsub
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How about just put all the money into self driving cars.  

You decrease insurance rates, reduce injuries, decrease the need for cops, reduce road rage from stupid and / or senile drivers...

If you're going to put something in the car now, an auto eject for old drivers going under 25MPH for driving more than a few miles yet has no problems blatantly running red lights...

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:56 | 6575908 KCMLO
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You're looking to implement solutions.  You obviously don't work for the government.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:25 | 6576073 Billy Sol Estes
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Whoever is looking forward to driverless cars might as well ride the goddam bus with the rest of the slaves

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:48 | 6575859 arbwhore
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... and a quick DNA scan with a little bit of data sent to the NSA and we're done...

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:49 | 6575864 Ataxic Press
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Blow up a balloon when you're not drunk. Keep it in your car.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:57 | 6575912 Mike Honcho
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Lacking pressure sir.  Cigarette lighter plug in air compressor.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:02 | 6575940 Ataxic Press
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Even better!

I watched the video, and I'm left puzzled as to why a drunk driver type person would voluntarily purchase this premium safety option for his or her own car.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:35 | 6576117 GoldenGeezer
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There's never been a "safety feature" or technology that hasn't been defeated. Ever.

Most are beaten before they even get implemented. This will be no different.

 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:40 | 6576143 juggalo1
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Sure.  Invent an idiot-proof device: along comes a better idiot.  Still as long as it doesn't provide an inconvenience to the rational people, I think it's a good idea to erect some additional barriers to stupid behavior.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 21:20 | 6577199 Government need...
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What about when this piece of shit malfunctions and you can't go to work that day?

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 21:20 | 6577203 Government need...
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dp

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:08 | 6575980 Sanity Bear
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Compressed air in a can

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 12:13 | 6579530 mkhs
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Dry ice.  Its got carbon dioxide; it's what sensors crave.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:51 | 6575874 dbystrowski
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Polish and Russian migrants are F'ed... 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:52 | 6575887 divedivedive
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Which candidate is vowing to cut back on government controls ?

http://www.chapalalaw.com/the-long-arm-of-the-us-law-and-expats/

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:54 | 6575895 headhunt
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Typical leftist government; your guilty - now prove your not

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 15:55 | 6575902 DontFollowMyAdv...
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it's the scam to force us into self-driving cars that the gov can then control and know our whereabouts at all times

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:00 | 6575927 stant
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Be great for motor cycle sales

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:02 | 6575939 Thisisbullishright
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If you haven't done anything wrong you don't have anything to hide...

<snarc>

 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:02 | 6575943 Seasmoke
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Hey baby. When you are done blowing me. Blow in this straw so we can go home.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:19 | 6576053 negative rates
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Cop says yeah, good idea, that fixed everything.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 17:33 | 6576339 Kprime
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she tried but your semen registered 2.1 SEC (semen alcohol count)

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:03 | 6575949 divedivedive
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Next thing they will introduce is some sort of way to corral pedestrians into staying in the crosswalks. Perhaps some sort of mild shocking.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:03 | 6575953 Who was that ma...
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"We're from the government and we're here to help".

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:37 | 6576125 Stevious
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...bend over now.

Wed, 09/23/2015 - 20:01 | 6586217 Who was that ma...
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Bend over, spread 'em, and take a deep breath.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:05 | 6575961 Thisisbullishright
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As a historian its very interesting watching the fall of a once good country happen right in front of your face, during just my lifetime...

 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:59 | 6576220 Anunnaki
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None of us expected that Obama would make things much worse

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:13 | 6576010 gaoptimize
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Expect a 10th amendment challenge to this in red states.  I think they better think twice about this one.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:15 | 6576022 q99x2
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Great for people like my human relatives in Pittsburgh.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:38 | 6576036 SillySalesmanQu...
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I would be much happier if there were a pornalyzer on every government computer and a blowhookerlyzer on every Congresscritters car.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 20:15 | 6576925 Thirtyseven
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And for the Secret Service & DEA too.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:17 | 6576037 TheObsoleteMan
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States would lose tons of taxes if this is enacted. Besides, Miguel will just blow for Julio anyway.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:22 | 6576067 Billy Sol Estes
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Won't matter soon when we're all held at gun point to ride in Apple and Teslas drivlerless slave mobiles. The next step from this automatic breaking horseshit is automatic driving

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 22:09 | 6577389 optimator
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And after that comes rides in crowded boxcars.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:25 | 6576076 Falling Down
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So should I plan on starting a "I'll blow your car", business on the side?

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:29 | 6576092 Yen Cross
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 Can you imagine the liability in this when Gramps is stroking out, and Grandma can't start the car to take him to the ER because she had a tablespoon of caugh syrup for her cold a few minutes before, and the machine gives a false positive.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 20:11 | 6576914 Sanity Bear
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I imagine the liability will be zero - by law.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 21:18 | 6577188 Government need...
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Ding, ding, ding.  You cant sue us, but we can sue you.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:35 | 6576110 Palladin
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Seems to me that a strip of Duct tape over all the little holes that are supposed to do the sniffing would render the entire system ineffectual.

I wonder if the dimbulbs that conceived this idea thought of that?

Probably not.

Or you could carry around a pack of cigarettes and light one up, and blow a big exhale into the sensor. Wonder how it would handle a full blast of Lucky Strike smoke?

 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:34 | 6576114 juggalo1
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I would be in favor of this in theory.  Drunk driving is a major cause of preventable death.  As far as compelling behavior, I don't think it is much different than seatbelts, which I am definitely in favor of.  Now how, specifically, it would work would be a major question.  For example, how does it know whether the alchohol it detects is the driver or a passenger?  Do I have to pop a prod into my mouth every time?  How accurate is it?  Does it shut off the engine, or does it alert the authorities and my insurance company?  These are major concerns.

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 19:09 | 6576682 Omen IV
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you are a moron - the minimal risks to the general public from drinking are worth the freedom !

guns are next auto locks - I dont own a weapon never have - but i can see now that they want a completely controlled population - Fascism is ugly !

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:36 | 6576120 dot.dot
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Reminds me of the SOuth Park episode with the 'It' vehicle complete with 'Flexy Grips'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1y4RRWm3xw

 

 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:38 | 6576133 Rusty Nayle
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#nullify

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:38 | 6576139 grumpytga
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Anyone else remember the seat interlock in the middl 70's that kept your car from starting until you had your seatbelt on?

Looks like congress has been given much Google (driverless cars) ICar (Apple driverless) or Uber stock and we are soon to be unable to drive ourselves. Next we will all have to move to the "city" and forbidden driving "For our own good"! WuckFads!

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:41 | 6576147 ejmoosa
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Official US Government Motto:

BECAUSE WE CAN!

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 16:43 | 6576158 taketheredpill
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How about catherization?  They could sample urine on a real-time basis to foil people opening "travellers" on the road, plus long-distance drivers could avoid rest stops so productivity would go up.  Win Win!!

 

Mon, 09/21/2015 - 21:26 | 6577220 Zero-Hegemon
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While they're at it, they can build an onboard stool sampler into each vehicle.

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