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Oliver Stone: Forget ISIS, America Is The Real Threat To The World
Submitted by Jake Anderson via TheAntiMedia.org,
Many people thought Oliver Stone’s days of rankling the establishment were over. Many people were wrong. His 2012 book and TV series, The Untold History of the United States, suggests the iconic filmmaker is renewing efforts to challenge the mainstream narrative regarding American exceptionalism, economic imperialism, and our government’s “nefarious involvement” in the Middle East.
To complete the 10-part documentary series and 750 page book, Stone collaborated with World War 2 scholar Peter Kuznick. The controversial filmmaker says that in assessing American history since the 1930s, it’s our involvement in the Middle East that really grabbed his attention.
“We’ve destabilized the entire region, created chaos. And then we blame ISIS for the chaos we have created,” Stone said.
According to Stone, the U.S. government’s destabilizing role actually goes back much further than ISIS. His new series pinpoints moments of American intrusion in the region as far back as the 1930s and follows it all the way to the CIA-backed Iranian coup in 1953, support for Afghanistan-based, anti-Soviet Union militants in the 1980s, George H.W. Bush’s Iraq invasion of 1990, and present-day efforts in Iran, Syria, and other countries.
Stone etched his way into the hearts and minds of the American public in the mid-to-late 1980s with two films depicting powerful experiences from the Vietnam War. Platoon and Born on the 4th of July represent Stone’s confusion over his own service in the war, for which he earned a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart.
Stone’s JFK famously questioned the mainstream narrative of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, endearing the filmmaker to conspiracy theory circles for decades with a fictional account of a lawyer bringing the U.S. government to trial for its role in the assassination.
In recent years, Oliver Stone has received less acclaim for films like World Trade Center, which failed to question the mainstream narrative of 9/11, and W., which gave relatively gentle treatment to George W. Bush’s presidency.
Stone’s 2012 series, The Untold History of the United States, is a return to the intellectual form of one of his earliest successes, Salvador, which was strongly critical of the U.S.-supported right wing military of the Salvadoran Civil War. The last episode in the series is called Bush & Obama: Age of Terror. It covers the following subjects:
- The Project For A New American Century, a neoconservative think tank that called for a Pearl Harbor-type event to catalyze military action in the Middle East
- The tyranny of neoconservatives who pushed us to war with Iraq using faulty intelligence
- The rushing through of the Patriot Act, which stripped Americans of a wide variety of civil liberties while bestowing legal precedent to the new surveillance state
- The national brainwashing and fear-mongering of the War on Terror
- Invading Afghanistan to defeat some of the same terrorists the U.S. armed and trained two decades earlier
- Unconstitutional torture and interrogation tactics at Guantanamo Bay
- The mainstream media’s facilitation of war through propaganda and corporate collusion
- Obama selling out to J.P. Morgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, General Electric, and Big Pharma
- The $700 billion financial bailout paid for by workers, pensioners, homeowners, small businessmen, and students with loans
- The rise of CEO compensation amid the collapse of the middle class
- Obama’s failure to deliver hope, change, or transparency, his prosecution of government whistleblowers, his fortification of Bush’s national security state (though he repudiated the unilateralism of Bush, he doubled down on troops and, according to Stone, “lacked the courage of a John F. Kennedy”)
- Obama’s targeted drone strikes on Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Libya, and Somalia (includes a breathtaking clip of his remark to troops: “Unlike the old empires, we don’t make these sacrifices for territory or for resources….We do it because it’s right.”
Stone says his documentary series is an alternative approach to American history, one he hopes will fight the“educational crime” of exposing today’s schoolchildren to the propaganda of standard textbooks and television programs.
On this note, Stone doesn’t mince words:
“American exceptionalism has to be driven out of our curriculums. We’re not under threat. We are the threat.”
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Hm? I'm still trying to figure out who the heck is shipping them Syrian refugees to Europe?!
Atabia? Israel? USA? All of them?
We're not IN danger...
WE ARE THE DANGER.
https://youtu.be/DDT_IBk7hAA
Stone still doesn't get it; Amerikans like ruling the world,kicking ass,and taking names..just like when Mr Stone was cuuting the ears off of dead Gooks back in the 60's..
ameriKans pick on Peoples that cannot defend themselve,,, I don't call that "kicking ass"
And what unit did you serve in Vietnam that cut the ears off of dead gooks?
Right. We only bomb dirt-poor desert shitholes with no air defenses and loads of muslims.
The Vietnamese couldn't defend themselves?
I suggest you look at a map. (among other considerations)
This will probably be an unpopular post but by Reagan US military supremacy had reached a point where no nation on earth not even looney ones would challenge the US directly.
To justify the military industrial complexes existence a new threat need be found so a new policy of arming,training and developing future enemies was taken onboard.This is combined with the new objective of not necessarily winning all conflicts but making them long protacted events that maximise the amount of money spent which goes up to the level of public tolerence,this tolerence is manipulated by a permanent state of fear being pushed through the media.
There is no threat to America that is credible other than from within...and that is the threat they have been buying up for and training for for the last 5 years especially culminating with Jade Helm....YOU
wait, what?!?
i thought stone got blown up when the zapper ran into his command tent in Platoon
lol
Oliver Stone: Forget ISIS, America Is The Real Threat To The World
ISIS is the creation of USA CIA and Israel Mossad. Israel runs America. thus, Israel is "the real threat to the World".
ya because the GOP invented islam...right? Can you please tell us how Israel cause the invasion of Spain by the muslims? The USA and Israel also created MAo and Stalin and don't forget they made Godzilla. ISIS was created because stupid Obama and Hillary left Iraq and there are REALLY REALLY BAD PEOPLE THERE. They also helped to remove strong men from Egypt, Libya and are trying in Syria. These strong men were good at killing really really bad people. At least we are still trying to kill the really really bad guys in Afganistan. You have to either have a strong government or kill the really bad guys. In the US many of the realy really bad guys go to Wall Street and Washington...we need to remove them from power.
Who created all those brand new black ISIS T-Shirts with the fancy white logo and the matching black head gear?
Who is shooting those beautiful beheadings?
Why did WTC7 fall down?
Pay attention!
I listened to the last couple minutes...WHAT A PIECE OF TRASH. Maybe instead of scare mongering and 20/20 hind site and rosy view of that peace will overcome all. Oliver Stone should read history about what REALLY HAPPENS. Also donating to crooks like the Clinton and Obama...doesn't help. Liberals by the most part are the greediest people in existence. The people and leaders of the US by and large are the good guys aren't always the bad guys. I am sure Stone could blame WWII & the Ice Age on the US and conservatives and "hard liners". Except people like Stalin and mao and Saddam really exists and are happy to kill millions for power and wealth. Does the US make mistake, sure....but there are actual EVIL people in the world and on wall street. We need to stop them! We need smaller government and fairer rules. The crony economy is destroying this country and the world. Break up the mega banks...too much power!
can I guess Oliver Stone is hyper liberal and has contributed to every democrat presidential candidate ever regardless of the trash he puts out.
Some fellow Americans claim “I am not responsible”, unfortunately every one of us is responsible and accountable for the actions and inactions of our alleged government.
See past the propaganda. Think for yourself.
How the fuck are any of us responsible for what other people do? This is nonsense.
Ever hear of collective karma?
e.g. There were many Japanese who were against the military govt in the 40's/ however they still paid the karmic price of their leaders actions.
I, for one, have nothing to do with the American government or culture. Sure, in my youth, I voted, but my candidates never won. The last four or five presidents/governments, all of them I can remember, have persued policies that I disagree with vehemently, so Ihave done all I can to remove myself from thier system. Sure, they still gouge me with their taxes, but I've refined my systems to minimize their monetary policies against me.
In the end I have no effect on them and they have very little on me, and that will serve me well if/when they fail because I don't need .gov or the corporations that run it.
"We the People..."
It is not what other people do, it is what our goverment does or fails to do.
This is the tribe front running a backlash against the U.S. and its (read: the tribe's) actions over the past 20 years. What are Oliver Silverstein's real motives here?
Yes, but it's NFL season.
well thank you sir !
It is not that America or the American people are the threat. It is the monolithic power behind American banks and government that has been the threat to humanity ... the adversary.
Our world's known history is riddled with wars of terror and extermination, always attempts to expand power to as much of the globe as possible.
America is just the latest tool of aggression designed to subjugate the world under its ruling power. We are constantly fed lies about bogeymen, rogue nations, indefinable ememies and faux-threats so as to whip the ignorant into a fervor that will make them think less of the humanity of others. Thus it has always been through our memory (maybe not before that though). It is designed to keep us in a very dark place.
Now, after America has been the aggressor for the last 65 years, we are being systematically emasculated so that we will fall easy prey to an angry world. And, with the help of people such as Oliver Stone, Americans will become the willing sacrificial victims, where it really should be those controlling our actions... but I do not think the world is smart enough yet to recognize the real enemy.
Oliver Stone is a tool of "them".
Hey we are not tyrants. We only drop freedom on poor brown people at Israel's request.
Well if Oliver Stone says it it MUST be true.
I have long said that the U.S. has turned into the Beast it is supposedly fighting against.
We are also slowly turning into our old rival, the Soviet Union.
Funny you mention the Soviet Union. Remember being deluged with the philosphy that the Soviet Union's government planned five-year-plans were a major contributor to its downfall as a Communist state? Of course, that was before we really kicked in with our own FED-centrally-planned gig.
Well, here is your classical liberal denier now calling a pig a pig.
Haha, the libertarians must be squirming to see a American liberal outgunning them on the same platform that I defend here :
Pax Americana and its morph into Empire since Nov. 1963; as he showed us in JFK; and the ME Oil empire that began when Standard Oil of California (now Chevron) cut the ground under Shell-Esso in IRan/Iraq/Baku (Red line agreement with broker Gulbekian) to form Aramco with Saud (circa 1933) --who had ousted the Hashemites from Mecca-- thanks to Saint John Philby (another double agent).
That was what started the greatest oil race in the world and helped make Israel the new Templar state to guard the Oil Jerusalem once the US had evinced Mossadegh and then UK/France from Suez.
We have not gotten off that escalator. And its corrupted the West.
Understanding Causality is finding the hidden raw nerve of history.
Payback !
If you aren't a libertarian or anarchist, you are a slaveowner or one of the slaveowner's lickspittle. This bootlicking shit is fucking unAmerican.
This must make "liberals" squirm to realize they are nothing but apologists for modern slavery.
You foam at the mouth when you rant.
Your logic is brilliant by its absence, as the true apologists of modern slavery are those who pretend to be anarchists and end up as fascists.
That's the experience curve : One example, Barroso, was a left wing Trotskyist anarchist who believed all states were redundant, as youth leader in 1973 "Carnation revolution" in Portugal.
The same guy as politician became GWB's stooge in 2003 at Azores meeting with Blair and Aznar that kicked off Iraq II invasion.
For his good work he was kicked up to becoming EU Commission chief from 2004-2014, making the EU a neo-con surrogate enclave.
So when you see the libertarians today in Congress you can be sure of one thing : they'll be turncoats and neo-cons like "drill baby drill" Palin was. I won't bore you with naming all of them.
Never trust a man who says "un amercican" about what exceptionalism doesn't means. Go kick Geronimo's skull somewhere else. And worship the "free market" that makes a fool out of you day in day out.
If you wanna learn about econometrics and the real power equation, then before you read the Nash Equilibrium read about the Cournot Competition equilibrium that dates back to 1838 and was all about Oligopoly markets !
That guy even preceded MArx and...he was a mathematician.
Can't make true exceptionalism up with hot air and its not just Hayekian or Friedman's BS disguised as the Road to Serfdom. Hayek believed in "forward guiding markets" via cybernetics, to get the "right results" to conform with his theory, not the dumb fiddlings of Keynesian mix of fiscal cum interest rate balancings in the real world.
Well, with the HFT dominated Squid run WS asset pump, the Hayek secret dream has now come true !
The success of libertarianism will be the adoption of it's policies by the main stream. I do not expect that a "libertarian" party will ever win a major election in Amerika, or Kanada. I do believe that their policies will become more favorable to the public, and thus adopted by the mainstream parties.
I think of liberty as more of a standard, than destination.
Oliver Silverstein does not represent more than 2% of America.
At this point in time in history i tend to agree with Oliver Stone. Humanity has to stop these neocons warmonghering or humanity will become extint.
Quoting Oliver Stone on anything other than filmmaking is like linking to Business Insider for business news. Sad state of affairs.
I figured this out long ago in Vietnam.
Without WARS the MIC economy would crash
re Forget ISIS, America Is The Real Threat To The World
No question about it: Oliver's got stones.
For those who say they aren't responsible.
Ever hear of collective karma?
e.g. There were many Japanese who were against the military govt in the 40's/ however they still paid the karmic price of their leaders actions.
You clearly do not understand the concept of Karma. It is ones soul's work, not some kind of cosmic vengeance mechanism. Karma is neither good nor bad, it just is. One must work through all types of karma through reincarnation after reincarnation.
Its you who doesn't know jack shit about karma. Karma is cause and effect. What goes around comes around.
Get educated, clown boy. BTW, there is no ''God''. everything is cause and effect.
I think I know a bit more about it than you do.
Been a member 37 years.
http://www.sgi-usa.org
What you cite is Hinayana Buddhism not True Buddhism.
You can change your KARMA in this lifetime.
Karma=cause and effect
You rob a bank but get away with it. (NEVER caught by authorities) but the payback will come in the future.
EVERYTHING is CAUSE and EFFECT.
More succinctly ''simulataneous cause and effect''.
Learn more about True Buddhism and then we can discuss furthur.
http://www.sgi-usa.org
so what's the Karmic payback for a man who VOLUNTEERED to fight in Vietnam?
you're correct about karma Alfred - and thanks for bringing buddhism into play -
true buddhism emphasizes the 4 noble truths, 8 ways of knowing .... here's the link to original buddha teaching - http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/buddasa.pdf
free download for all - please do so and pass it on
You know what? I'm as anti-establishment as anyone and honestly view any bureaucracy as an inherent danger. You can be for the idea of America and at the same time hate government. I'm starting to get pissed off at all these anti-American statements from people who don't have the mental faculties to understand you can be anti-government and still love and cherish all that's good about America.
-Argenta
Do you seriously believe he's referring to Joe 6-Pack - and not the cabal orchestrating this global mayhem???
No. Are you actually trying to convince me this dick's motives are purely altruistic? Oliver Stone is in the same vein as Soros, Obama, and Farrakhan. I'm frankly amazed I got so many down arrows on my initial post.
-Argenta
he is attempting to shape public opinion, as any good propagandist does. yes, he is basically a communist, but that doesn't make all of his observations invalid, though I'd be very skeptical of where he assigns the blame. that is where the propagandist shows their worth.
"I'm starting to get pissed off at all these anti-American statements from people who don't have the mental faculties to understand you can be anti-government and still love and cherish all that's good about America."
WAHHHHHH! I love America! LOL...you twat...
Stone is a tool of the puppets (Clinton, Obama, i.e. those he supports and gave money to) so while he may be hitting on some truths, it would be foolish to take all his claims as gospel.
Methinks he is pushing someones vision of things as that someone would would want the sheeple to view it.
The real threat to humanity is:
https://youtu.be/0gVLv5eg4Xg?t=5093
Olly Stone sucks and is nothing but a rabid communist propagandist.
He needs to STFU.
Communism=Zionism
Stone is not a Zionist Bolshevik like most leaders of the USA
Every time you type, you display your ignorance.
Oliver Silverstein. Not a Zionist. Not a Bolshevik. Good joke.
Well it looks like both of them hate him:
http://www.jewishjournal.com/hollywoodjew/item/oliver_stone_blames_jewis...
Apparently, idiots outnumber real humans about two to one on ZH...
Oh that's novel, a rich Hollywood Jewish Communist that hates America. Who gives a fuck what Oliver Silverstein (his father's family name) thinks?
Someone will always be top dog. It's either America or it's someone else. You're either the alpha or you're the bitch. I see no fault in anything America has done other than being too restrained against the Mudslime scourge that is threatening all mankind.
I think you'd better run out and get another sixer and a carton of smokes before the Shell station closes...
Why would I give money to the filthy fucking Dutch? Find me a mother fucking Esso, 'cuz Amurica! Fuck you!
That's pretty shallow to conclude we are a threat just because we invade, occupy, coup, and drone murder more than any other country on earth.
Thay hate us for our sarcasm.
To address some (comments) below:
Oliver Stone was born to a non-practicing Jewish father and a non-practicing Catholic French mother. Anyone interested can Google what he has said about the influence of a certain religion over Hollywood. It was very controversial.
I don't think this other stuff actually merits any discussion - only his series as the topic of this ZH thread. IMO.
To move the Empire from west to the east you have to destroy it from within
But America's actions are largely controlled by the Israeli Lobby.
We'd still be fucking around in Ukraine, but Iraq and Syria and Iran would not have gone down like this if right wing Zionist Jews weren't deeply embedded in the Deep State.
For goodness sake a handful of Zionist Jews set up an office in the Pentagon to lie us into war. JINSA... exists as a Jewish institute - no other ethnic or religious group has a think tank dedicated to conflating US nat security with that of a tiny foreign apartheid ethnarchy.
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2005/11/lie-factory
Well duh Oliver. Have been saying for over a decade that Congress is more dangerous than the ragheads. Now you need to make a movie that we fill a sheep with revolutionary zeal. Good luck. .........
America will be on the right path when 5 year-olds respond to the Pledge of Allegiance with: "What BULLSHIT, exactly how stupid do you think I am?"....
Maybe, but it'll be in a mix of Spanish, ebonics, and Arabic you anti-American cunt.
The IDEA of America is eternal. Free white men living their lives to the best of their GOD GIVEN abilities.
Now you're sounding like a proud Sioux or Apache...
Ya know the TRUE AMERICANS before white man brought small pox to their lands.
A proud Sioux or Apache would probably not want to be referred to as "True Americans" (Just sayin)
Also it appears most inhabitants on the continent came from Siberia via the Bering Straits which would indicate none of us are indigenous. yes?
The only true indigenous person on planet Earth was that black woman born in Africa. The Homo Sapiens "big bang" evolution, until proof to the contrary, began some place in dark Africa.
Just to focus on the current issue of Refugees coming from Syria as a result of OUR WAR in their region ALL for OIL : The white race is known as being CAUCASIAN as region of origin. So those refugees (we talk of 4 million now destitute who could walk from Asia to Europe to run from ISIS/MIC hell) are all CAUCASIAN of race; west Asians from where european civilization is supposed to have begun.
From an ethnic point of view they are totally Euro compatible as our historical time line (Babylon, Trojan war etc.) infers.
The only issue of cultural importance is religion, as their CREATIONIST dogma-- if they be believers in SALAFISM-- is not Euro compatible. This brings to mind two historical considerations in Christian Europe itself (before it knew the secular Enlightenment) :
1° The European time line resolved religious problems on that continent through 5 centuries of religious strife : 1200 (Cathar uprising) to 1700 (Huguenots vs Catholics religious war which ended with 1713 treaty of Utrecht). So we Europeans KNOW how to cure OBSCURANTIST rage in our lands. We have done it before as we have rational institutions based on human rights and rule of law.
2° The Refugees themselves are not Salafists; more likely secular Syrians and Kurds and Arabs. So their integration to the extent they stay long in Europe should be easier. Obviously the best solution would be to do a MArshall plan type reinvestment in the region using oil revenues and western skills, once this crazy neo-con war is over and we kill the Salafist beast where he is truly spawned.
But that requires the American Oligarchs to pull their heads out of their OILy asses!
Some Herculean task by the looks of our current geo-political model !
We're gonna need more popcorn.
Okay, so the USSA are the war mongering axis scum of the Earth, a shithole...??
Glad I got out years ago!
Actually, America has not been a threat since I leveled Lehman Bros., and Bear Stearns in 08. Now, America is America's most significant threat as it implodes in a controlled demolition of the superstructure that will implode at free fall speed into it's own footprint much like the cocksucking CIA & MIC imploded the World Trade Centers #1, & #2, plus building #7.
Note: Oliver Stone is an industry shill.
"Exceptionalism" is part of a formula to nullify a man's conscience
Compare to:
Scientology: Hubbard promises to make people into supermen
Non-scientologists are called "WOG"
Zionists: "We are the chosen people" Non jews are called "GOY"
the chosen people thing was concocted to provide a identification with land that happened to be along the very best trading routes - land long peopled by a kaleidoscope of peoples and a backwater until the Roman empire came along and largely civilized it.
According to the Israel Democracy Institute, approximately two thirds of Israeli Jews believe that Jews are the "chosen people".[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_as_the_chosen_people
Oliver,
Psst. all wars are bankers wars....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfEBupAeo4
I just love how the Progressives keep bringing up the 1953 coup in Iran as something bad when they had no problem overthrowing Qadafi and Mubarek. Also, things got sooo much better for Iranians when Carter decided not to support the Shah in 1979. We should have assasinated the Ayatolla when he was in exile in France.
A lot of the blame for the modern map and current problems in the Middle East belongs to the Europeans.
Mick, what we should have done in 1953 and ever since, and probably for some time before 1953, was just stay the fuck out of Middle East politics. We don't know what we're doing over there and we've only made things worse by about a million orders of magnitude. We overthrow these strongmen like Qadafi (or whatever spelling one chooses), Saddam, Mubarek, and, now, Assad, and we haven't a clue as to what to put in their place. There's a reason these countries need firm leadershipa nd you're eeing it play out in all four places. The strongmen keep the various religious and secular groups that hate each other and want to destroy each other in check. Get rid of the strongman and chaos ensues. Iraq and Libya are failed states now. The only reason Egypt isn't a failed state (yet) is because the army took the place of a single strongman. If Assad falls, Syria will soon become a failed state, asssuming anyone's left living there after this migration fiasco plays out.
What's the common theme in all four countries, plus countless others around the world? The West fucked around without having a clue as to what they were doing.
In 1953, we should have kept our mouths shut and not gotten involved.
Obama in his foreign policy is a token progressive and true but reluctant successor to Bush, especially when Hillary was at State. The Dems are two headed politically; hegemonial but not Crusaders like GWB. Kerry is more a dove than Hillary was. He wants the US to retrench given the disaster that the Arab spring manipulation has become for US, in the aftermath of Libya regime change's violent legacy.
No sir the Europeans did not start neo con push of 2001 onwards. They were against it except for the ANglos.
Now its in metastasis due to Saudi belligerence and Irani resistance and Europe is getting sucked into Syria and Iraq.
The refugee problem will oblige Europe to take over down the road the East West dialogue when Pax Americana recedes as it inevitably will having broken its teeth in military play now beyond its financial reach.
The turning point will come when the financial conundrum along with oil and Military tensions find resolution one way or another. The Iran deal means US wants out now from the Saud-Israel handshakes. The US retrenchment is just a question of time.
How the regional players of permanence : Russia, Turkey, Europe and Iran then decide the new shape of Euro-Asian frontier will then be a new ball game; one that is 3000 years old!
But by then the US will be a regional power and the 1945-2008 hegemony will be a receding game just as the US role in East Asia.
2008 in that sense looks like a tipping moment in world geo politics.
I knew it!
oliver stone isnt a bad guy at least what i know about him he critized some jews and he was forced to apologize later
"Stone was raised in the Episcopal Church, and now practices Buddhism"
buddhism is an non semitic religion and i accept it as a peaceful religion
christans and muslims fuck you
the jew oliver stone got more balls than all of you combined
Zio bots plague this site
As do moronic idiots...
Russia tho.
The bigger story is the deception of 9-11 itself by MOSSAD agents posing as Israeli Art students living in the towers since May 2000.
Look at the mysterious ball that approached the South Tower that was a hologram coordinating and tagging
the later edited plane clip art image shown on TV and the explosion in the South Tower.
9/11 CONSPIRACY: THE BALL NEXT TO TOWER 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPKq2K2dh6k
The evidence is there and no one is looking at it.
Notice no one including Ron Paul, Trump or anyone will expose the colossal hoax that was 9-11 committed by MOSSAD and their Zionist agents like Bush and his Neocon buddies.
No wonder the
Mossad motto is: By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt do WarThere are some things that can never be uttered, the truth about 9-11 is one of them. It's bigger then them all, and the mere indication of what we know to be true- is enough to cause US colony collapse. If anyone, with any real pull, tried- quick acting cancer, single car accident or threatening of their family, is usually enough of a response to hush it.
China's turn next !
American telling other americans, what is wrong about america, that people outside america, already known for a long time.
I don't thing many would hear...
Amazing how Stone never considered the Israeli angle in JFK's murder.
http://americanfreepress.net/PDF/Final_Judgment.pdf
Then again maybe you believe Jack Rubenstein when he said he murdered Lee "I'm a pastsy" Oswald out of love for the Kennedy's - and not at the behest of the Jewish mob and/or CIA.
Maybe maybe not - but Collins Piper did present a very good argument, and odd that for Stone that angle just didn't exist.
To find out who controls you- figure out who you can't criticize.
IT'S NEVER ISRAEL, ZIONISTS or THE MOSSAD, EVER!
Even Stone knows that!
Stone never added that JFK said "no nukes for Israel" and printed United States Notes like Lincoln printed Greenbacks.
There are people who are going to toe the party line, no matter what. So if you tell a Red Team member that Bush sucked, he'll argue to his last breath that you're a crazy ultra-left wing liberal. Then you'll tell a Blue Team member that Obama sucks, and he'll call you a facists conservative. Those people are hopeless. But I've been finding a lot more people in my area, the San Francisco Bay Area, which is about as liberal as it gets, that Obama, in many, many ways, is George Bush on steroids. Their response has been quite surprising in many cases. They'll give the obligatory argument on social things such as gays in the military, same sex marriage and things like that. But when the discussion turns to wars and spying, they wholeheartedly agree that Obama has been most disappointing. And even more surprising to me, most agree that there is very little difference between the two parties on the issue of eternal war and spying on anything that moves.
Even in the Bay Area, people are starting to get very disilluioned about government. Not enough to change the tide yet. It's still ultra-liberal, but it's enough to get noticed.
I think a candidate like Ron Paul, running on a third party ticket, would get a lot of play in this area if the choices were a Trump/Clinton, Bush/Clinton, Trump/Biden or Bush/Biden election in 2016.
Kinda makes you think there is an "invisible hand" over Bush and Obama. Divide and conquer- that's how they do it: Bush vs. Obama, Red vs. Blue, Democrat vs. Republican.
It's like watching the Packers vs. the Seahawks- regardless of the score the NFL wins.
No matter which party wins an election; "We the people" lose!
It's the same agenda- just different time tables of implementation.
His movie "W" was a major disappointment. A whitewash of an evil, pivotal coup 'de tat.
Perhaps he has seen the error of his ways, problem is, none of our ADD affected youth will watch any of this. And they're the ones who need to know it so this can never happen again when they're in charge, oh God help us.
I have to agree- look at the crap Victoia Newland pulled in the Ukraine! Just when we were all tired of our tax dollars defending the world- now we are the world's destabilizers, and propping up the one's we feel will give us the most benefit. Our track record of installing Dictators, that eventually go rogue is absolutly horrendous.
As for Stone- the JFK movie was a red herring- throw out the "Military Industiral Complex" (MIC) it gets the conspiracy buffs every time and shields the true puppet masters- the Zionist Banksters that profit off the MIC's wars!
The U.S, Plan is clear, Balkanization of the world.
According to U.S. military doctrine to keep supremacy into the new century the U.S. must destroy the rest of the world. It sounds insane but just look around you and you realize that this is indeed the case.
The East has been complicity torn up trough US’s Balkanization politics by totally destroying Iraq, Libya also sociably. That why these people come here.
At the same time the U.S. wants to divorce Russia from West-Europe because together they will be very strong, and the U.S. which has so many enemies doesn’t need any friends.
We’ve got of course the PNAC Plan and we’ve got Zbigniew Brzezinski the master in Balkanization by ‘Divide and Conquer’ tactics using old local tribal sentiments to evoke a new war.
Look how easy it was to revive ‘Cold War’ sentiments. You just have to have the will and create the opportunity to shoot down a plane full of Germans and Dutch Europeans because sanctions on Russia where not in favor so Langly had to act to turn the tide by turning the mood against Russia, and so thy did militarily, quick and dirty so it would make good headlines falsely claiming that Russia ‘did it’ while the plane was still smoking on the ground.
It worked immediately sanctions on Russia were implemented by Europe, shooting themselves in the foot.
U.S. tries to stir some good old ‘cold war’ fear into Poland and the Baltic’s, convincing them that Russia has ‘Lebensraum’ plans which is false.
It is the U.S. with NATO who are the ones with ‘Lebensraum’ plans in Ukraine and Syria and in other countries as well.
Gen Wesley Clark Reveals US Plan To Invade Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Lybia, Somalia, Sudan, And Iran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8YtF76s-yM
I know meth can result in non-hodgkins' lymphoma.
Meth epidemic went up after the oil boom in the Dakotas.Meth is popular with the white supremacy/Nazi freaks. US Taxpayers were robbed to by Nuland to finance Kiev NAZIs with $5 billion, more from the IMF. I wonder how much meth is snorted in the Ukraine.
Now where do the banks tie into all of this? PETRODOLLARS FINANCE BANK LIQUIDITY. faculty.georgetown.edu/imo3/petrod/allocate.htm
Hmmmmm....I wonder if there's an ambiguiously clever connection here. Nope! Just coincidence!
also popular with gays as a sex assist.
He hasn't left the country? He's still here pedaling movies? By his deed, and fruit you shall know them. That' s just a fact of life period. Instead of sticking around, I ask, why hasn't he left?
Fuck you Stone you douchebag.
I am not so much interested in Oliver Stone’s take on that. I think that Oliver Stone’s JFK (1991) is much over rated. Frankly I was a bit disappointed when I watched it the first time, expecting more truth coming out of it.
Now I also understand that this was impossible to do so for Oliver Stone because a JFK movie could get you waxed easily. It still is a very delicate subjects among … let’s say some secret service agencies.
And here you have it …
"In recent years, Oliver Stone has received less acclaim for films like World Trade Center, which failed to question the mainstream narrative of 9/11, and W., which gave relatively gentle treatment to George W. Bush’s presidency."
So Oliver Stone made a deal with the Devil, keeping the 9/11 propaganda up while blabbering on about some less essential truths also as distraction from the real deal news. Almost cointelpro like. Or is Oliver Stone simply CIA like the National Graphic Society.Stone would never get financing to tell the REAL story of American finance, based on a book publiished in 1889.
The Great Red Dragon: Foreign Money Power in the United States
WE DIDN'T LISTEN
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/09/23/state-of-play-finding-lead...
The current race is mostly interesting as a measure of how powerful our Status Quo remains at controlling the process of selecting our next leader.
The Skull and Bones need to be turned into skulls and bones.
At 56.25.....
Global warming?
Oh please.
Done.
Squid
Yes,,, seems out of place in the overall context of the film but there seems a massive effort to "repeat the message" anywhere and everywhere. I guess it's the Goebbels rant,,, repeat it enough, everyone will believe it.
Global warming has become a religion and like all religions it attempts to silence non believers.
Oliver takes a bunch of half truths and makes a movie. Can be a winning combination. But one has to say after watching the movies. Fuck off Oliver.
full of sound and fury
All media is propaganda.
I haven't watched a movie since Lion King and the TV since early 90s.
Didnt watch the video but surely Stone can surmise that its about big money interests and not American exceptionalism (obvious BS angle). Why else would they be interested in these areas of the world. Seems to me that many of the players in that region actually have come way ahead as well. Stone is a naive Liberal. How much money has the Supreme leader kept for himself anyways?
The damages made by politicians are always not instant but massive in the long run. That's why these muppet voters never able to forseen the outcome, especially with the help of propaganda media.
That fat bastard Stone is certainly a threat to the world's food supply!
Again, better dead than Red.
Yeah, you red States need to get off the dole and end it all.
What's going on in Syria and Iraq is 100% USA's responsibility. Saddam should won a Nobel peace prize for killing few thousand and remain the place stable. G.W.Bush should be executed publically for Antihumanism.
What's going on in Syria and Iraq is 100% USA's responsibility. Saddam should won a Nobel peace prize for killing few thousand and remain the place stable. G.W.Bush should be executed publically for Antihumanism.
if US isn't exeptional why do hoards of people keep coming here?
fatcats like Stone become multi millionaire in the US, then have the gall to bitch about it!