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Pentagon Warns Of Russia-Iran "Nexus" In Syria: "We Assume Russia Is Coordinating With The Iranians"
To be sure, some manner of Russian intervention in Syria was probably inevitable.
As we explained on Monday, Syria is pivotal for the existing balance of power both regionally and globally speaking. The alliance between Bashar al-Assad’s Syria and Moscow, Tehran, and Hezbollah serves as a kind of counterbalance to cooperation among the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey (among others). Should the Assad regime be allowed to fall and the West allowed to influence the post-regime political outcome, the scales would tip, Russia would lose its naval base at Tartus, and Iran’s access to Hezbollah, not to mention the scope of its regional influence, would be severely constrained. Assad’s move to support the Islamic Pipeline while rejecting the Qatar-Turkey pipeline was a manifestation of this situation and speaks volumes about how critical Damascus is in Russia's struggle to keep a tight grip on the supply of natural gas to Europe.
That said, the fight for Damascus comes at an interesting time for Russia. The annexation of Crimea and Moscow’s subsequent involvement in eastern Ukraine (which is of course the worst kept secret in the geopolitical universe), combined with economic sanctions and the antitrust suit filed by the EU against Gazprom have served to create the most contentious relationship between The Kremlin and the West since the Cold War. One can look at that two ways. On the one hand, the prevailing dynamics in Europe might fairly be expected to make Moscow think twice before charging headlong into Syria, where the US and its allies have been operating both overtly and covertly for years, knowing that any involvement will only serve to inflame what is already a rather delicate situation. On the other hand, Vladimir Putin isn’t exactly known for being timid and indeed, it certainly seems as though Moscow (and Beijing for that matter) is intent on returning the world to some semblance of bipolarity after three decades of unobstructed US hegemony. When considered in that light, it wasn’t too difficult to predict Russia’s entry into Syria’s civil war in support of its ally in Damascus.
But even as Russia’s involvement was never a matter of if, it was, until recently, still a matter of when. Although Moscow likely didn’t need much in the way of convincing, the Pentagon now suggests (as we did last week) that a July meeting between Vladimir Putin and Quds Commander Qasem Soleimani (who allegedly commands not only the various Shiite militias battling ISIS in Iraq, but also the Houthi rebels fighting the Saudis in Yemen and whose rumored removal from the sanctions list as part of the Iran nuclear deal prompted Benjamin Netanyahu to proclaim that Obama’s “absurdity crosses all lines”) may have been instrumental in deciding the official start date for Russia’s intervention. Here’s more from WSJ:
Russia and Iran have stepped up coordination inside Syria as they move to safeguard President Bashar al-Assad’s control over his coastal stronghold, according to officials in the U.S. and Middle East, creating a new complication for Washington’s diplomatic goals.
Coordinating efforts cited by the U.S. and Middle East officials included a secret visit in late July by the commander of Iran’s elite overseas military unit, the Qods Force. Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani directs Tehran’s military and intelligence support for the Assad regime and is one of the most powerful leaders of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, or IRGC.
Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif also visited Moscow last month to discuss Syria and other issues with his Russian counterpart, Sergei Lavrov.
Such visits “all come within the framework of this coordination,” Syrian Foreign MinisterWalid al-Moallem told state media last week, referring specifically to the trip by Mr. Zarif and a deputy. “There is deep coordination on all levels between us and Moscow, and between us and Tehran, and I can say to whomever wants…they can join too.”
U.S. officials said they haven’t unraveled the full extent of the cooperation or its intention. “We assume [the Russian buildup in Syria is] being coordinated with the Iranians,” said a senior U.S. official, who said the U.S. tracked Gen. Soleimani’s trip to Moscow.
IRGC military advisers and soldiers are also deployed in Latakia, as well as soldiers from Tehran’s close political and military ally, the Lebanese militia Hezbollah, they said.
A U.S. defense official said the Pentagon believes Gen. Soleimani’s trip to Moscow was “very important” in relation to the Russian buildup in Latakia. “What we are seeing now is the manifestation of that meeting, and that there is some sort of Iran nexus,” the official said.
The coordinated Iranian and Russian support for Mr. Assad poses a formidable obstacle to the diplomatic aims of the Obama administration, which wants to remove the Syrian dictator from power.
Over the past three months, Moscow and Tehran have appeared to be preparing to bolster the region’s defenses, according to Syria analysts and Arab officials.
Syrian rebel forces have made substantial territorial gains in the northern province of Idlib during this time and have been pressing down into Latakia. Further victories by the insurgents could cut off Damascus from Mr. Assad’s home base, they said.
Gen. Soleimani visited a front line battlefield north of Latakia in June that was adjacent to the Turkish border and Idlib, according to Arab media reports.
There he said Iranian and Syrian leaders were jointly planning an operation that would “surprise the world.”
Weeks later, Gen. Soleimani visited Moscow and met with Defense Minister Sergei Shoygu and the heads of Russian military intelligence and defense industries, according to U.S. and European officials.
Why anyone in the Pentagon was surprised about the fact that there appears to be "some sort of Iran nexus" is quite frankly a mystery, given everything said above and it's almost incomprehensible that Washington wasn't prepared for this eventuality, but then again, perhaps the Obama administration was naive enough to think that somehow Tehran's desire to maintain cordial relations (incesssant Ayatollah twitter trolling notwithstanding) on the heels of the nuclear negotiations would win the day.
In any event, overt coordination between Russia and Iran raises a number of vexing issues for the US. For instance, the more publicity this gets, the more challenging will be the optics around negotiating for Assad's future. That is, making concessions to Russia over the timing of Assad's exit in light of the hardline rheotric the US has clung to for years looks bad enough as it is without the public (and Congress) getting the idea that for the second time in the space of just a few months, the US has found itself party to a "bad" deal involving Iran. Or, in more colorful language: with the GOP unable to block the Iran nuclear deal in the Senate, should Iran's involvment become common knowledge, then Obama will be faced with the biggest diplomatic headache in his administration's history, namely the explanation of why he is scrambling to restore diplomatic connections with a regime that couldn't even wait for the Iran deal to be formally passed before it turned its back on its newest "best friend" in the Oval Office, only to promptly side with the KGB agent who over the past two years has emerged as the biggest US enemy in three decades.
But perhaps the key takeaway here is that, as we said earlier this month, "with every incremental party entering the Syria conflict, the probability of a non-violent outcome becomes increasingly negligible. And now that the Russians may be coordinating directly with the Iranians, it means that both Israel and Saudi Arabia will be dragged in, whether they like it or not."
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Russia and Iran were INVITED into Iran. The US, NATO, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey were not.
And the US is coordinating with Saudi Arabia, Israel and all of NATO..
So ??
(And aren't we cozying up to Iran now, anyway?)
Yeah .. to "fight' ISIS, Lol
Are they fuckin stupid? They fuck with Russia, they fuck with Iran, they fuck with Syria, then they're surprised when they collaborate?
Yup, Russians and Iranians are going to exterminate ISIS in Syria.
And I "assume" the Pentagon is talking out of it's ass again.
It's very easy to "assume" whatever the hell you want. Assumptions only require bias not any pesky facts.
Yep. You can bet the Pure Evil Criminal Psychopaths over at the Pentagram are at this moment thinking of how many different False Flag scenarios to give justification for Military Intervention to enrich themselves & their BANKSTER buddies some more.
More Neocon/Neoliberal propaganda by the MIC liars. Why does the US support ISIS to overthrow Assad in the first instance? l'll bet 5 cents to your dollar that the majority of americans can't even find syria and iran on a map, much less explain why we are burning billions blowing up cities and killing people, while most US infrastructure is in the worst conditions of the last 30 years.
The USA can not interfere in Iran without consequences.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/08/10/disclosure-why-sabotaging-the-ir...
These dumb$#$@ do know that Iran and Syria do have a mutual defense pact/treaty, right? Google it, they signed it during the Bush administration when Cowboy George thought he could topple regimes with impunity. Syria is Iran's "red line" - they've even said it. The difference is when the Iranians proclaim something as a red line, they follow through.
We are on the wrong side of history with this one, unfortunately. We seem to be doing that a lot lately.
Why do you think Russia went after Georgia so hard? Because they knew the plan of the US was to attack Iran through Georgia once they got a foothold there. Same with the 2006 war against Hizbollah. This is all about getting to Iran. Unfortunately they seem to be outmaneuvering the dipshits that are running our clown show at every turn.
The headline on this story is the dumbest one I've seen yet.
Russia-Iran nexus??? Frankly I'm a lot more concerned about the Obama/Jarrett-Iran nexus.
“I am an Iranian by birth and of my Islamic faith. I am also an American Citizen and I seek to help change America to be a more Islamic country. My faith guides me and I feel like it is going well in the transition of using freedom of religion in America against itself” -- Valerie Jarrett, 1977, addressing students at Stanford University
http://t.co/cmMsShpBIc
I don't really care for your map reference. If everyone could point it out, what difference would it make? None. Besides, this is the age of tech. You can find out what you need to know in a second or two so why fill your head with horseshit geography?
Unless, of course, you somehow meant to just give a general glimpse of the US citizens knowledge of the situation overall. As far as just pointing it out on a map, that's pretty much useless.
The importance of <<map>> thinking is what it demonstrates about Americans' understanding of 'their' role in the world. The Pentagram (not sure who started that meme, but I like it!) can get away with this shit because people don't have even a basic concept of simple global concepts like <<where the fuck is this place>>. If people had a concept of physical location, they might begin to think "Wait a second... Russia and Iran live in this area, and this kind of violence is a direct threat to their populations... the U.S. ohhhh! We're way the fuck over there. This shouldn't be any of our business... hmmmm!"
Of course Russia and Iran are joining up. They share an interest in this instance. Neither can afford to let this go, because their own direct security (meaning violence directly within their countries) depends on this. The U.S. is just fucking around there because of business interests and Israel. The U.S. does not have an "existential threat" dog in this fight.
Which is why 9-11 was necessary. They had to convince people <<the U.S. is under direct threat!!>>. That bit of propaganda was their greatest stroke of genius, and keeps giving and giving, right to this day.
All this comes from that <<internal map>> that determines our innate emotional connection, or lack of such, to whichever conflict is being discussed. Don't even get me started on Ukraine!
AND USA coordinates with ISIS
now which side would you take hmmm Russia and Iran for me....
BIF
Marty McFly
which country is the US nowadays?
In fact, the global politics has become a real Back to the Future drama. The more that Hitlary, Oblamo and Kerry have tried to "fix" things, The WORSE the world & the US has become.
NoVa
"we will hit whoever tries to attack us" --why should israel allow iran to speak at the un on monday. war is now. Israel is alone, and that day is courtesy of obama. doom is here.
“Stones and firebombs are deadly weapons; they kill and have killed,” Netanyahu told the cabinet, adding that “we will continue to add forces in order to strike at rioters under a simple principle that we will begin to implement around and within our borders: We will hit whoever tries to attack us.”
Netanyahu said Israel will not accept a situation whereby people in Jerusalem or anywhere in the country “will organize terrorism and begin to throw firebombs at passing cars or throw rocks that murder people. This norm will not be established here; rather an opposite norm will be established – we will act against you and stop you, and we will punish you with the full force of the law.”
Huh??
we will look at nothing with wonder.
missing, missing finally.
israel should accept their place in the world proportional to the size of their population and land mass instead of their astounding ability to cry victim, threaten their neighbors and extract money and military equipment from the Unites States simultaneously.
This Netanyahu greasestain comes off as the biggest paranoid bully / cardboard toughguy I've ever seen - in the movies and in real life.
plenty more dumb young men who can be sent into Syria... in fact, I suspect that is precisely what is happening.
The article from last night about the leaked cable demonstrated the way the US government approaches the internal affairs of every other country on the face of the Earth — with self-centered, sociopathic ruthlessness. This article demonstrates the way the US government is unabashedly hypocritical when it comes to how other countries choose to conduct their own foreign affairs. Unfortunately, the US probably deserves everything it has coming to it. I hate saying that because I live here and know the government puts the lives of my children at risk every time it foolishly chooses to meddle in some land way the hell on the other side of the planet. The kids are innocent, but we adults are guilty of lazily sitting on our behinds and allowing things to get so far out of whack.
This story will undoubtedly compel the usual suspects to come crawling out from their smelly hiding places to voice their approval for Uncle Sam's lust for raping the rest of the world under the false banner of "freedom." These gutless fuckers don't have the sack to man-up and get their asses over to the sand pit, so they do the rah-rah keyboard commando routine like the spineless wonder pussies they are. They think this is all part of America's supposed greatness, and they think it will never end. They are quite mistaken.
America is guilty of great sins. Historically, this kind of sinning with impunity only works when a country stands at the top of the ladder and can rain shit on everyone below. Eventually, though, someone on a lower rung decides to shake the ladder, and the slimy assholes at the top come tumbling down. Punishment, in one form or another, always follows.
I tried calling in to the Diane Reems show today to ask if the Chinese would get involved but could not get through on their new phone number ----
1-800-NPR-SPIN
National Propaganda Radio?
China is already involved. There's an Turkish ethnic minority called the Uyghurs in China's far western Xinjiang province (which the Uyghurs prefer to call East Turkestan). They are Muslim and haven't been treated very well by the Chinese over the years - words like violent repression and genocide come to mind. Separatists movements have been brutally crushed there time and time again. The Chinese tried to calm the place down by relocating millions of Han Chinese there, but that sort of backfired.
Uyghur militant jihadi's latest incarnation is al-Qaeda linked and variously called Turkistan Islamic Party (TIP), The East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM) or the Turkistan Islamic Movement (TIM). They are despised by the Chinese something like the Russians hate the Chechen jihadis.
Curiously enough, somewhere between a few hundred and a few thousand of them traveled across Turkey recruiting even more jihadis and joined with other foreigners (including the Chechen) to fight along side al Nusra in Syria's Idlib province. Idlib is one gigantic headchopper love-fest today. They just took over Jisr al-Shughur, a decent-sized Idlib city.
Back to China: The Chinese authorities would gladly walk all the way to Syria to kill the ETIM head-choppers. They damn sure don't want them returning to China as experienced head-choppers. Let's just say China is pissed - and is probably even more pissed that the U.S. just shipped 12 23mm auto-cannon equipped Toyotas to the head-choppers. I'm not sure exactly what the Chinese might do, but they wouldn't do it in any small way. Let's just say they're highly motivated to make sure ETIM jihadis never leave Idlib. Anything Russia does that results in blown up Uyghur jihadis will be enthusiastically supported by China. Russia, of course, has it's own bone to pick with the soon-to-be-martyred Chechen jihadis in Idlib.
Despite diplomatic noise otherwise, Russia and China have to be getting insanely mad with Turkey and it's role in staffing and supplying al Qaeda. It would make perfect sense if both Russia and China armed the Rojava Kurds to the teeth with heavy weaponry and armor. The Kurds in Afrin and the Kurds in Kobane are the only ones that seem to be kicking the head-chopper's asses in northern Syria. The U.S. won't arm the Kurds because that would piss off Turkey. Russia and China could care less since they hate Turkey, but they haven't stepped up to help the Kurds yet.
Fascinating analysis, PW4. ZH should headline your commentary, instead of the conventional drivel that is too frequently cited.
Are you listening Tyler?
Paveway, more on the same. The bombing in Bangkok. The US threatens Thailand with trade problems if they don't crack down on human trafficing across their borders. Thailand notices all these groups of Weegurs being moved through the country, so they smash the smuggling network and send the Chinese citizens, 100 Weegurs, they have detained for illegally crossing ino the country back to China. This makes their giant Chinese neighbor happy and should please the Americans as they just smashed one of these people smuggling rings they keep getting yelled at about. But they are mistaken. Some people smuggling rings they are supposed to smash. Some they are supposed to leave alone. The activity they interrupted in Thailand was part of a pipeline moving these guys into Rebel/jihadi/terrorist groups in Syria. The angry response was the terror bombing in BKK.
I have to say I feel bad for the Uyghurs as a people - their situation in China sucks. Most of them rightfully hate the Chinese, but don't share the extremist philosophy of few militant jihadis among them. In fact, the jihadis have made the situation far, far worse for the average Uyghur in China who just want to be left the hell alone by everyone.
"...The activity they interrupted in Thailand was part of a pipeline moving these guys into Rebel/jihadi/terrorist groups in Syria..."
That doesn't sound right to me. The few hundred Uyghur jihadis have been in Syria for almost a year and they all came in a huge group. The 100 that Thailand sent back to China were families with children. If I had to guess, I would think they were going to join their relatives who already made it to Istanbul. There's a huge, thriving Uyghur ex-pat community there that numbers in the tens of thousands. They have nothing to do with the head-choppers that have been in Syria. I'm sure China likes to think every last Uyghur 'escapee' is going to join al Qaeda in Syria, but that's ridiculous. Most of them just want to get the hell out of China and get a decent job. I'll bet few of those 100 that were returned to China are even alive today - they were probably shot the minute they got off the plane.
As Dubyah would say:
"Mission Accomplished."
Don't you know that 'tumbling down', 'punishment to a-holes', 'Armageddon', is just code for the Coming of Christ to take all good capitalists to Nevereverland?
The more acute the pain, the closer Nirvana-for-sociopaths is.
"Bring.It.On"
They're fucking nuts. Hubris overload. They believe their own propaganda.
Israel needs to move the fuck out. Pack up your shit and your printer and go find another shit hole to fuck up.
you mean invited into Syria?
oops, yeah - Syria
Military Industrial Complex keeps waving flags and no one is watching. We are all too broke collecting cans on the roadside to care about Russia, Iran etc.
The young are so broke, and without ethics, that they are lining up to join the MIC to kill for money. They care not who or why but for how much and what future benefits. And for HONOR, for they are held up as heros.
And they are the REAL welfare queens. It's not just "the blacks".
Struck by the obvious.
MIC is coordinating with Russia, win-win.
Well....The Iranians have us by the balls now.
"We walk away from the nuclear deal if you don't let us coordinate with Russia"
"Yassa Massah".....says Obammy
You really are a dumb, Fox News watching Ziopath, aren't you, Rachel?
HAHAHA !!!
All the Anti-Semite knee jerkers are out I see.
Just like kicking an ant mound.....they all come pouring out.
But I didn't know how many Magic Negro supporters are out there. Or Muzzie cockersucker such as yourselves. Allahu Snackbar and Word to your mother. Peace out ! LOL !!!
Get the fuck out of here you ignorant buffoon with your anti-Semitic accusations. First of all the Jews are not the only Semitic people, Arabs and Palestinians are also Semitic. And most Jews, e.g. Ashkenazi are not Semitic, their origins are from Europe. The proper term in this context would be Anti-Zionist.
Oh...here we go. " Most jews are Ashenazi.....zzzzzzzz....snrrtt.....honey get me some more of then Cheetos from off the shelf. We're out ? Well bitch....go to Wal Mart and buy some more. And pick up a six pack of Milwaukee's best while your at it."
"Damn....where did I leave that remote. ESPN 14 got a rerun of Evel Knieval jumping the Snake River Gourge."
LOL !!!! psstt.....don't look now, but there's a joo hiding under your bed ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!
Ahhhh, Jumbotalmud chimes in with his hasbara propaganda.
It takes quite the talent to say Hasbara with a Muzzie cock in your mouth, Colonic Kluck.
But....to each his own I suppose.
So how long have you've been one of those "comfort boys" I hear is such the rage in Muzzie Land ?
Kikestanians always come up with the best put-downs, this is why niggers are their favorite pets.
What do you mean by "us", paleface?
Wow,, I didn't know dear leader would allow them an opinion
Then do something about it.
Ohwaitlol
i have a great idea for the next "republican nominee"
how about, NO MORE boots on the ground anywhere, no more saber rattling, no more pissing in someones backyard no more "tough guy talk" UNTIL AT THE VERY LEAST OUR FUCKING VA IS STRAIGHTENED OUT??? we have these guys coming back without limbs, PTSD, all fucked up & our priority is to bring in 150,000 syrians WHO WE DON'T KNOW + keep our southern border open to anyone who is looking for free food, housing, education, etc. so-long as you vote democrap.
i swear im gettin real close to moving to an island and throwing my cell phone in the ocean. beyond sick and tired of this fucking bullshit.
I believe this was 'W's' original policy. "No more nation building", right?
maltesefalcon - ill take it 1 step further ... how about using our military for what it was originally intended for: national DEFENSE, not INTER-national OFFENSE
No, just give it back it's more accurate name from the '40s.
WAR DEPARTMENT
Iran is the last link in China's New Silk Road. Iran, Russia (complete with high-speed rail to China,) and China are the middle-east's only hope for peace. US only has war on its mind. Israel must be shitting bricks right about now.
Turkey will go where the money is - West or East. It always has.
What the hell kind of deal did we make with Iran anyway? Did anyone tell Kerry to stop hitting himself during these negotiations??
Why does US need to make a deal of any kind (other than perhaps free trade) with Iran ? Is the Iranian army going to invade USA ? are they going to nuke it ? Is,nt Iran like literally on the other side of the planet from USA ?Are you the average American better off since you started paying more and more taxes and losing loved ones since the start of all these undeclared wars? I know this is obvious to most ZH readers but maybe the few of us who can still think straight need to just repeat these simple questions every time we hear the words Iran, Syria, Afganistan. Libya, Isis, Al-Ciada etc
YUP. What is the upside to dealing with them, did the US have a couple billion dollars just burning a hole in our pockets we needed to give to Iran to help them get a nuke? Are they going to do some proxy fighting for us somewhere? That at least makes sense, let them be the face of evil, have them do the really ugly jobs that Americans aren't willing to (publicly) do?
don't worry, it's not your money. It is Irans money, they couldn't get to it due to sanctions.
So stop hyperventilating, and take a good shit.
It's kinda working, just a matter of whether we have enough time.
That aspect all comes from taking sides and getting stuck in the geopolitics of division. The US tried hard to take both sides (i.e. no side) across the Shia/Sunni divide but the Ayatollahs took out the Shah of Iran in 1979, and changed that completely into deep polarization and various persistent Satanic accusations (the Sunnis couldn't quite see it) so the US was left with just the Sunni side up, and petrodollar.
And let's face it, if you had to pick a side, that was going to be it for obvious reasons.
And now the US (and EU) are trying to again have a relationship with both sides, and are starting to get a bit magnanimous, pragmatic and somewhat flirty with feet under the table, with Iran again.
Naturally everyone who relies on the politics of division for their positions, and advantage and relations with the US, deeply resent that the US might actually want the region to become less polarized, and to breakdown this deep, counterproductive and dangerous regional division and standoff.
Because you either do that and make it work, or you let them continue until one side nukes the other side.
And if your track record is a bit dodgy already, like the US's is, let's face it, it's going to be messy.
Taking a no-sides and non-polarization positions always mean every partisan on all sides hate you, and that almost occurred in 2013 with Saudi Arabia spitting out its pacifier.
So you say, take it or leave it bitches, I'm the USA, and I have oil too, and you are a supplicant bug, so let's reform the region cooperatively, and change the dynamics for the better, or I'll pump more oil and you'll all be fucked, and I won't need to protect you so much any longer and your economies will be fucked.
Ah! ... Russia foresees an opportunity, so comes a knockin' ... pootie can re-polarize the region, and clean up geopolitically ... on one side ... which is still a bloody lot of strategic gain. And China can sweet-talk Iran too.
Oh! ... I see ... so we're sticking around and playing geopolitical sides after all huh? ... OK ... do that then.
So the US will be staying and the polarization just got deeper, and more intractable, and much more dangerous.
Nice!
Poor little USA trying so hard to be evenhanded and have smooth relationship with everyone and then those nasty Russians came meddling in. :))
Do you really need to write such long posts to say so little?
You don't even have to read them you know? Well, unless your job depends on it ... naaah!
The U.S. installed the Shah of Iran after coordinating the overthrow of the previous ruler (forget his name). The Shah sold his oil under market price to the U.S. and pocketed huge bonuses from the U.S. to do so. He was as corrupt as the U.S. gov't. I don't have an opinion as to whether the Iranians are better off with one or the other. But the Shah was a U.S. puppet.
Yes ... that was in fact my point about the shah, I figured it went without saying that he was setup and allied with the USA.
I sometimes forget that there are younger people who know next to none of this stuff, so thanks for making that part clearer for others.
It felt too good to stop...
Great. More NO GO zones in Germany, France, Sweden etc. Despite claims from Bloomberg Press that NO GO zones do not exist in Europe, the chielf of police for Germany just came out and said they do. Same for France, Sweden, the NL etc
http://tsecnetwork.ca/2015/09/18/no-go-zones-and-the-european-migration-...
Nexus sounds like a car. If this Nexus handles like a Lexus, then I'll take one.
The nexus of evil.
That would be a pretty good assumption!!!
Those "whiz kid"s at the puzzle palace get another one right again...
wait till the chinese get in there..
They wait til the party gets going because they want to make an entrance.
But you're right, they are about the only country remaining that has not invaded Syria in some fashion or other.
This. The lamestream media is already scrambling to change the bullshit narrative. They will lose their minds when China "officially" joins.
Let Q99X2 lead the NWO. I'll fix it. Nobody will have to live until they look like George Soros or David Rockefeller.
Even after all this time, and all of the information that has been available (for years), people still cling to the notion of pinning U.S. foreign policy strategy and implentation on (1) man... Just goes to show how supremely clever, cunning and determined those who design and actually run U.S. foreign policy, really are...
Psychopaths are definitely running this shit show.
Americans are not supposed to be the bitches of the Israeli government.
That's anti-Semitic!!!
It's the new black.
It's also the new Gay, Transgender, Planned Parenthood & Pedofilia.
Bestiality!!!
Actually, anti-zionist is the real term. Anti-semitic is being against Jews regardless of ethnicity, Anti-Zionist is being against the criminal, terrorist government of Israel and the "Joos" that run it. But you knew that already.
Well, apparently it was decided for us that anti-Zionism is simply anti-Jewish hate, because clearly no decent person could object to Israeli war crimes, since they aren't war crimes when Jews do it!
don't you get it?
They are special and different and God's Chosen Terror Squad.
Not my g0d, mind you, but you put something in a collection of old books... people will believe the fuck out of it.
"poses a formidable obstacle to the diplomatic aims of the Obama administration"
Diplomatic?
I'm sure they have forgotten long ago the meaning of "diplomacy" over there in the USA.
Russia, Syria, and Iran have been allies since way back. Anyone falling for the Russia is a big instigator in this thing needs to get caught up.
Agree. The Russians would be stupid if they were NOT coordinating with Iran, Syria, Israel, Saudi Arabia, in fact all the countries currently shooting wildly at anything that moves in Syria. Putin just met with Netanyahu yesterday. Does the Pentagon think that is sinister, too? Yeah, whatever. Folks at the Pentagon need to do some breathing exercises - sounds like they are a few oxygen atoms short.
We've pretty much fucked up and destroyed every other country in the world, we try hard to destroy these few left standing, it would be more surprising if these countries did NOT become allies. Our actions have given these countries no other choice but to become allies. Retarded really.
good cop bad cop
Netanyahu: Russia Will Allow Israeli Attacks on Syria
Says He Told Putin 'In No Uncertain Terms' Attacks Would Continue
http://news.antiwar.com/2015/09/21/netanyahu-russia-will-allow-israeli-a...
The fuck?
Israel is bombing the regular Syrian army to help Al Nusra and ISIS.
They have periodically claimed that they were targeting anti-aircraft {defensive} missiles going to Hez. - never offering proof, just as we are to believe every one of 10,000+ homes had a rocket in it {which killed all of 3 people}.
I'm sure Vlad knows that hittign back at Israel would make them cry "anti-Semite" and use their 5th columns in the US and UK to rally the troops to war...
But this approach makes little sense - to help Syria fend off foreign terrorist mercenaries but let the Israeli Occupation Forces help those same terrorists by killing more of the very people fighting them.
Not cute.
Of course, what was actually said may have been different.
"Of course, what was actually said may have been different."
Indeed. We'll know what was actually said when we hear about the first Israeli plane shot down by one of them there Russian missiles.
Putin will tell them "You misunderstood me. I said you can bomb ISIS, not Assad."
How much has Putin really supported Syria? He never delivered the S-300 missiles Syria contracted for back in 2007. (Putin still has not delivered any S-300 to Iran by the way.) Putin forced Syria to give up it's chemical weapons, a weapon that scared the west (and maybe Russia).
"But this approach makes little sense - to help Syria fend off foreign terrorist mercenaries but let the Israeli Occupation Forces help those same terrorists by killing more of the very people fighting them."
Putin gave just enough to Syria to allow Syria to fold slowly. To have Syrian towns destroyed in a constant fight and for the population of Syria to become refugees.
Now Syria is exhausted. Men are less likely to join the army, few weapons in store. Now Syria is weak due to the war being extended.
Perhaps that was the plan, we shall see. Now Putin moves in, he has hosted the insurgents in Russia to negotiate a post Assad Syria. He can take a portion of the destroyed and vacated Syria for himself and have a presence in post Assad Syria. I fear he has negotiated a sudden surprise insurgent blitz into the capital to capture Assad. Assad should get his wife out of Syria as they could use her for brutal propoganda.
Putin made Assad give up his chemical gas because he was smart enough to see that charges of Chemical gas attacks made by the U.S. would be enough to start the march to war in the U.S. The TPTB would have a toehold to get the war started against Assad with the rationale being that the U.S. needed to get all the Chemical weapons away from Assad. By persuading Assad to give up his Chemical weapons in a very public declaration, Putin thwarted and undermined all the reasoning behind starting the war, therefore saving Syria from a potential war and regime change in Syria.
Holy Fuck Oh MY God its a Nexus!!! That settles it better to fight 'em over there and than over here boys. I'm loggin out gona have a beer and do my fantasy football picks.
Suspicions Persist about Iranian “Laptop of Death”
http://www.lobelog.com/suspicions-persist-about-iranian-laptop-of-death/
Iran, Nukes, and the ‘Laptop of Death’
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2007/12/10/iran-nukes-and-the-laptop-...
The Great Iranian Nuclear Swindle
https://news.vice.com/article/the-great-iranian-nuclear-swindle
Netanyahu's Long History of Crying 'Wolf'
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.645801
Benjamin Netanyahu's Long History of Crying Wolf About Iran's Nuclear Weapons
https://theintercept.com/2015/03/02/brief-history-netanyahu-crying-wolf-...
FBI investigates MILCO nuclear trigger smuggling to Israel
"...also met Benyamin Netanyahu while Netanyahu worked at Heli Trading..."
http://www.irmep.org/ila/krytons/
Netanyahu Worked Inside Nuclear Smuggling Ring
http://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2012/07/03/netanyahu-worked-insi...
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We were lied into Iraq by the same people who have been trying to lie us into Iran and Syria - the same people who have dreamed of destroying the functioning states around Israel so that Israel can invade and attack its neighbors for lebensraum without fear of repercussion.
This is megalomania + Jewish Supremacism.
http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future
Judaic sources on the attitude towards gentiles
http://www.talkreason.org/articles/gentiles.cfm
In a recent position paper The Talmud in Anti-Semitic Polemics (February 2003), the Anti-Defamation League of B'ani B'rith deplored the allegation that Jews were bigoted against non-Jews.
http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/gentile.html
The Laws Against Non-Jews
From: "Jewish History, Jewish Religion:
The Weight of Three Thousand Years"
by Professor Israel Shahak
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jewhis5.htm
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The Illusion of Choice … 90% of American Media Controlled by 6 Corporations
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/08/the-illusion-of-choice-90-of-america...
Who is most of the top ownership and management of those 6 corps?
The conglomerates are: General Electric, News Corp., Disney, Viacom, Time Warner and CBS.
And would you be surprised to learn you aren't allowed to say who?
Because {some bullshit reason}?
But, but, but, but....CONSPIRACY THEORY!!!! TERRORIST!!! WE MUST FIND THIS NEW BIN LADIN AND WIPE HIM OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH BEFORE HE RECRUITS MORE TO HIS CAUSE!!!!
/sarc
Good, about time somebody fights and eleminate these (western/saudi funded and trained) jihadi murdering scumbags.
They won't even look it up. They will just use it in the same context in which it was heard because it sounds good to say. Nexus... See. A talking head cannot resist its allure.
Oh God. Get ready to hear every shallow light weight MSM talking head using the word "Nexus". After they look it up in the dictionary of course.
I love how the US assumes it owns every country in the world. How dare the Syrian government invite Putin to help them out in their own country? This should have been ok'd by Washington first.
The Us is playing games from the begining, having said that Russia and Iran are allies, and they both support Bashar Assad, whether the US likes or not. The nuclear deal is between the west and Iran and has nothing to do with the support for Bashar Assad. For sure the Iranians do not, repeat, do not consider the US their new buddies, maybe it is the US naivety but why would/should they? What has the US done for Iran, except to sanction it and force other countries to do the same.
The shocking arrogance of the Us in thinking that Russia /Iran should just sit there and watch chaos and accept it is ridiculous even to consider that possibility, which shows how unprepared the White house is to play the cop of the world. It has been one disaster after another in their failed foreign policy.
Where is Newsoutlet?
raping a pig somewhere>?
Ukraine’s ‘Democratic’ Dictatorship
They’re banning journalists, books, movies, and even actors
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/09/20/ukraines-democratic-dictat...
In Neocon Ukraine - book censors you!!!
The balance of power in the Middle East must be maintained at all costs. Putin has chosen wisely.
What is Pentagon so pissed about? Russia, Iran & what's left of Syria are handling this crisis the way it should have been handled from the begining - accent on intelligence, not brute force carpet bombing the shit out of Syria. If Russia is providing weapons, Iran is providing intelligence and Syrian army is doing the shooting, then I think that's excellent team work.
Yup, Russia is doing what America is apparently incapable of handling. This is a ripe opportunity to get Russia in bed with the US militarily and economically. I do not doubt that if the right people were to cut the right deal with Putin, the ME could become civilized and relatively safe for persons of any nationality...Well, almost any nationality...
You do realize that the U.S. is trying to START wars in the M.E., not end them? Right?
Russia and Iran are allies with the lawful government and are there at the invitation of said government in order to fight foreign jihadi mercenaries with a penchant for barbarity.
Meanwhile, the US, UK, Saudis, Turks and Israelis have no legal right to be there but have been supplying foreign terror mercenaries and bombing Syrian regular army, or forces from Iran or the Lebanese resistance AS they were fighting ISIS - a group which deliberately targeted Christians and other minorities... not that the US, UK, or Israel care one bit.
The fact that American politicians can, with a straight face, act as if Iran is the bad actor in Syria, and that the American people will largely buy it, means that after the Revolution - media ownership will have to be diversified.
Can't have six corporations controlling basically everything...
especially as it is easy to show that just about all of them are disproportionately owned/managed/content developed by the usual suspects.
A situation repeated, by the way, in the UK, Canada, France, Australia, Sweden, Ukraine, Russia, and elsewhere.
oddly enough, part of an aggressive, militarist, Anglo-Zionist Axis of Evil
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Domination Strategies of the Anglo-Zionist Empire
By Ariadna Theokopoulos on October 15, 2014 in America, Crimes against Humanity, Crimes Against Truth, Dissidence, Israel, Jewish Power, Media, Propaganda, Terrorism, War, Zionism
The psychopathic quest for total world domination by what some (e.g., the Saker) call “the Anglo-Zionist Empire” and many others “the American Empire,” involves establishing global hegemony by any means: endless wars and coups d’etat, economic warfare (ruinous trade pacts, blockades and sanctions), financial terrorism (debt enslavement, currency manipulation), or threats thereof.
The Anglo-Zionist campaign for global hegemony currently unfolding in the world (the Middle East, Far East Asia, Africa, South America and the Pacific limitrophe states, and around Russia’s borders) is described and analyzed in Michel Chossudovky’s excellent exposé called The Globalization of War. Nevertheless it is true, as Lasse Wilhelmson remarked in a comment, that Chossudovsky “forgot something, and that is to name those in control of the US.”
Lasse is right. This reminds me of the old Soviet joke in which the interrogator tells the arrested man,”We have information that last night at the pub you insulted the Beloved Leader repeatedly calling him The Pig.” “No, comrade,” pleads the frightened man. “I was talking about a neighbor of mine.”
“Stop lying,” says the interrogator, “we all know who the The Pig is!”
At least Chossudovsky, unlike the kosherized “left,” does not misidentify who is in control of the US, he does not peddle the “white race” hasbara. Chossudovsky’s analysis is excellent, his alarm call is well justified, and we all know who The Pig is. Well, maybe not all of us, so for this I agree with Lasse that there is room for improved precision in this exposé.
The twin companions of these “procedural” domination strategies are the “cognitive” strategies aimed at achieving an ideological makeover: imposing upon the nations in their dominion unquestioning acceptance of the Orwellian doctrine of Upside Down (“patas para arriba” per Galeano and Salbuchi) morality, according to which unprovoked wars are “humanitarian interventions,” state terrorism is “the war on terror,” genocidal massacres are “our right to defend ourselves,” unchecked immigration is “multiculturalism” (while resistance to it is “racism” or “fascism”), subversion to undermine and destroy national culture, religion and traditions and rewrite history is enlightened “secularism” (while resistance is “bigotry” and “anti-semitism” — the apex of all thought crimes).
The pockets of resistance to the official narrative, the opposition to thought control seen only in the alternative media, are to be neutralized by “gatekeeping.”
A gatekeeper’s mission is to block the political discourse from veering into forbidden territory, thus controlling and rigging the game. The mission demands that the gatekeeper stay inside the perimeter and be credible.
What happens, however, when the public awareness surges against the gate and threatens to topple it? Some things need to be abandoned, sacrificed, like continuing to deny the existence of the Jewish lobby, about which the don of gatekeeping, Chomsky, once said that it is no more powerful than the American Association of Retired Persons (AARP). That gatepost has been moved: it is OK to admit and even criticize the Jewish lobby a bit. Just so it is done with “balance,” like for example claiming that the Saudi lobby is far more dangerous to the US than the Jewish lobby (per Michael Scheuer).
The war on Iraq, ardently pushed and supported by the neocons, is another gatepost that has been moved. It is Ok now to say it was a “mistake” (mainly due to faulty/misunderstood intelligence) and to add that you are “anti-war” or a “non-interventionist.”
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http://www.deliberation.info/domination-strategies-anglo-zionist-empire/
The Pentagon needs to STFU and watch how REAL men deal with a problem...
Russians should have been in there 2 years ago with the Iranians but better late than never. Putin finally realised that they'll be fighting these fuckers on the streets of Grozny again if they dont do it in Syria.
From Grozny to Moscow
Eventually, yep.
Another part of the encirclement of Russia by the USSA and pretty much anyone they can get to do the dirty work.
Another claims of Russia INVASION! Without accompanying photos!!
Look, America operated this spy satellited currently.
http://fas.org/spp/military/program/imint/kh-12.htm
It has 10 cm per pixel optical resolution!
At that resolution? You can see Russian Flags painted to the body of Russian Military Hardwares!!
So, WHERE THE HECK PHOTOS OF RUSSIAN OWNED HARDWARES there in Latakia? Or whatever?
The same with Ukraine's Russian involvement? Where the heck the High Resolution Spy Images?? Huh!?
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Next,
WHY you ALL so concern about gas/oil DAMN pipelines through Syria?
WHY are you CRAZY enough, what to built BILLIONS DOLLAR pipelines that goes to UNSTABLE TERRITORIES?? What kind of businesess suicidal that wants to BUILD that damn pipeline??
If you're so concern about EU gas supply?
Here, this the GODDAMN EU gas supply pipelines!! That runs through MUCH SAFER tunisia, marroco, libya to Italy OR can be routed to Marroco to Spain!!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maghreb%E2%80%93Europe_Gas_Pipeline
OR? EU have plan for this TRANS-CASPIAN gas pipelines to bring Eurasian Gas producers to EU via turkey!!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Caspian_Gas_Pipeline
Why you're so INSISTENT to make gas pipe to unstable country, huh!?
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Next!!
Russia can't loose Tartus Russian Naval port!!
Eeiiii!! If Russia loose tartus? Russia just move its base to IRAN!! Which MORE THAN HAPPY TO HOST RUSSIAN MILITARY POST!! Cause that's means that IDIOTS ISRAEL would be dare to mess with Iran! Not when you have the backing of Russian military post!!
That is THAT simple!
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And if you're US people STUPIDLY WIGGLING YOUR NUKES PENIS IN FRONT OF RUSSIA?
Know this, Russia has MORE NUKES than yours!!
http://ploughshares.org/world-nuclear-stockpile-report
In the case of FULL NUCLEAR SHOWDOWN between US and Russia?
IT IS USA THAT WOULD TURNED INTO GLASS!! NOT RUSSIA!!
Still want to wiggle your nuclear penis??
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US right now? Playing DANGEROUS games to an enemy? That really can DESTROYS COMPLETELY its lands.
Really, you want to mess with Russian??
Oh come on, it's not how big it is, it's how you wiggle it! Btw, take it easy asking for evidence and stuff, it's frowned upon in here, people start taking notes and murmuring about how you're acting just like a kike would. Yeah ... I know ... don't ask.
Edit: Oh yeah, almost forgot, notice the meme above about Syria being the geostrategic key node on the whole globe! Yeah, total bullshit right? I suppose if you were Iranian, or Russian, or had Slavic heritage and slant you might persistently paint the situation in those irrational terms. But everyone else on the planet has gone to sleep already ... wha?... who? ... Syria?! ... where the fucks that? ... really? ... you've got yo be shittin' me! ... and they said that? ... Syria?! ... you sure? ... wow!
etc.
Well, thanks again for another sliver of reality sneaking through.
it's not how big it is, it's how you wiggle it
If you think that chart is acurate,I have some beach front property in Tehran to sell you. Israel has 80 nukes? When was this chart produced? 1980?
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Fort Russ -- Russian marines clash with ISIS in Syria -- September 21, 2015
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/09/russian-marines-clash-with-isis-in-syria.html
As announced on September 20th by "MILITARY INFORMANT" On the night from September 19 to 20, our marines guarding the Russian military base, located near the settlement of Latakia (Syria), discovered a group of militants walking in the direction of the base, numbering up to 8 people. The decision was made to destroy the enemy, after all, our intelligence knew about the plans of the militants for organizing the attack on the Russian base in Latakia with mortars and small arms.
As a result of the clash, three militants were killed, two captured, and the rest retreated. During the search of the prisoners plans of the airbase and satellite images with the marked important points of the base were found.
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Russian troops are now in Syria fighting "ISX". There will be no back doors into Iran. And does "ISX" have spy satellites?
Is Peace Prize and that stupid moron Lurch Kerry having buyer's remorse on their Iranian "legacy polishing" deal?
That's a lot of different groups involved(or going to be) in such a small space. Surely that will go well.
Two Zionist scum’s together agrees on killing people:
Netanyahu, Putin agree plan to avoid Syria clashesDidn't we JUST get the warning on this? :
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-21/secret-cable-reveals-us-plan-ov...
where the cable said, among other things: "-- PLAY ON SUNNI FEARS OF IRANIAN INFLUENCE: "
Obama will be faced with the biggest diplomatic headache in his administration's history, namely the explanation of why he is scrambling to restore diplomatic connections with a regime that couldn't even wait for the Iran deal to be formally passed before it turned its back on its newest "best friend" in the Oval Office, only to promptly side with the KGB agent who over the past two years has emerged as the biggest US enemy in three decades.
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Wait? So none of this is about fighting ISIS? We're not partners with Iran and Putin on that endeavor? My, my.
Well, once again ZH distorts the news for their anti Israel diatribe
Here is the truth
The meeting between Putin and Bibi led to this
Russia to allow Israeli strikes on Syrian arms transfers, PM saysOur conversation was dedicated to the complex security situation on the northern border,” the prime minister said. “I explained our policies in different ways to try to thwart the deadly weapons transfers from the Syrian army to Hezbollah — action actually undertaken under the supervision of Iran.”
http://www.timesofisrael.com/russia-to-allow-israeli-strikes-on-syrian-a...
Can yall stop your constant BS"Can yall stop your constant BS"
Says the man who cites timesofisraeldot com as a source.
Here is a question for you: Do you know how to tell if Bibi is lying? He is talking.
Let's see how this shapes up. We've got Putin the guy who showed Chechnya the high cost of Islamic Fundamentalism versus the United States and their "light in the boots" Army commander.
Real Politik vs. Multi Culturualism. America finally will find out what it's like with someone who fights back
“Nations have no permanent friends or allies, they only have permanent interests.” Lord Palmerston, English statesman (1784-1865)
Just saw this interesting article about who the Russians are really coordinating efforts with (bad grammar):
http://www.voltairenet.org/article188763.html
Evidently the CSTO - 6 ex-Soviet nations with a joint defense agreement - have recently decided ISIS et al are existential threats and will be bombing them soon, if they haven't already done so.
Sour Grapes
"We Assume Russia Is Coordinating With The Iranians"
and it's corollary
"We Assume the US Is Coordinating With ISIS"
Risible. These DoD Intel guys are top shelf aren't they. Goebbels & Bernay's would high 5 them. Delusional would be an understatement. Enjoy the ride it only gets more turbulent
Let's see..what countries has the US been involved in with the Middle East?...Syria,,Israel, Lebannon, Iraq, Afghanistan, Jordan, Yemen, Saudia Arbia, Egypt, Libya, plus more...so the Pentagon is worried about Russia, Syria, and Iran...well I guess we could add a few more countries to our list...
hm
Russia’s ultimate lethal weapon:
Don't Fuck with Russia:
Glazyev, a brilliant economist, is a Russian nationalist – sanctioned personally by the US.
....."Glazyev is arguably going no holds barred.
He is in favor of barring Russian companies from using foreign currency (which makes sense); taxing the conversion of rubles to foreign currencies (same); banning foreign loans to Russian firms (depending if they are not in US dollars or euro); and – the smoking gun – requiring Russian companies that have Western loans to default. Predictably, some sectors of US ‘Think Tankland’ went bonkers......" http://thesaker.is/russias-ultimate-lethal-weapon/
The Great Bear comes down from the North.
One thing for sure, Russia and or Iran, better find a very, very safe place for "Soleimani"!
how'd he live this long, knowing what he knows...another chess player, aye?
Pentagon == Pentagram
where satanist (cabal) ritual of sacrifice is undertaken
and the souls are harvested from all over the world
TheirLordYahwehLoves the smell of burning flesh & the spilled blood - their book says so