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U.S. Will Station New Nuclear Weapons in Germany Against Russia
Submitted by Eric Zuesse, investigative historian Eric Zuesse is the author, most recently, of They’re Not Even Close: The Democratic vs. Republican Economic Records, 1910-2010, and of CHRIST’S VENTRILOQUISTS: The Event that Created Christianity.
U.S. Will Station New Nuclear Weapons in Germany Against Russia
Germany’s ZDF public television network headlines on Tuesday September 22nd, "New U.S. Atomic Weapons to Be Stationed in Germany," and reports that the U.S. will bring into Germany 20 new nuclear bombs, each being four times the destructive power of the one that was used on Hiroshima. Hans Kristensen, the Director of the Nuclear Information Project at the Federation of American Scientists, says, "With the new bombs the boundaries blur between tactical and strategic nuclear weapons.”
German Tornado pilots regularly practice with dummies of American atomic bombs. (Source: ZDF)
A former Parliamentary State Secretary in Germany's Defense Ministry, Willy Wimmer, of Chancellor Merkel’s own conservative party, the Christian Democratic Union, warns that these “new attack options against Russia” constitute “a conscious provocation of our Russian neighbors.”
German Economic News also reports on Chancellor Merkel’s decision to allow these terror-weapons against Russia: "The Bundestag decided in 2009, expressing the will of most Germans, that the US should withdraw its nuclear weapons from Germany. But German Chancellor Angela Merkel did nothing.” And now she okays the U.S. to increase America’s German-based nuclear arsenal against Russia.
Maria Zakharova, of the Russian Foreign Ministry, says: “This is an infringement of Articles 1 and 2 of the Treaty on Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons,” which is the treaty that provides non-nuclear states the assurance that the existing nuclear powers will not try to use their nuclear status so as to take over the world.
German Economic News says: "The federal government had demanded the exact opposite: The Bundestag decided in March 2010 by a large majority, that the federal government should 'press for the withdrawal of US nuclear weapons from Germany.' Even the coalition agreement between the CDU and FDP, the German government in 2009 had promised the withdrawal of nuclear weapons from Büchel. But instead there will be these new bombs."
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And they'll glue a transceiver to your house so they'll know everything about you - even when you're getting busy.
I want to be a field mouse. You know how much poon those guys get?
I'd be a hawk, or an osprey. Their lives look pretty great, diving for fish. Humans give them such a bad name.
I will choose another planet. Fuck this evil place.
In my next life, I just want to be away from bankers and stupid fucking humans.
Then you will likely be with me somewhere else in the universe. This planet went full retard a very long time ago.
I want to be an exotic virus.
Something that only effect people with certain DNA but make them ooze pus from their eyeballs as their brain
is very slowly liquified, and process that causes intense headaches for short moments throughout day and
night and which are not preventable by any drug.
...and just for extra kicks also causes erectile distinction in men, severe vaginal itching in women and anal leakage.
The hubris, desperation, and stupidity of American 'leaders' seems ever increasingly likely to get all of us killed.
Oh wonderful. We're embarking on a new era of peace, racial harmony, plentiful employment, economic growth, national unity and freedom for the populace.
By the way, I'm going by the Orwellian definitions of those terms.
Germany is now bringing in millions of Arabic refugees while pointing nukes at a white country. What is the literary term for this?
Todestrieb
You forgot "predominately Christian". Technically Arabs and Persians are Caucasian.
Treason - oldie but a goodie.
Talks with Israel must not have gone well.
What an excellent idea! /s
One can only admire the bravery (or can we call it lunacy) of the Germans though...
What an excellent idea! /s
One can only admire the bravery (or can we call it lunacy) of the Germans though...
It's called Germany "getting fucked out of Germany" which is basically what we've been doing in the ME these last 14 years and everywhere else for that matter the last 70! Germany like the rest of Western Europe had a golden opportunity to kick the U.S. military out after the Berlin Wall fell and they will wistfully remind themselves of that opportunity they could have had before 2000!
Yeah this will end well!
My only hope is that I get to see Israel and Britain obliterated before our date with destiny arrives shortly thereafter!!!
Translation:
You better not even think about dumping these anytime within the next 12 months!
Think of it as "Tianjin" only on steroids! I'd like to believe the German people would weigh in on opposing this with a "Jeremy Corbyn" wannabe in the government wings to oust Merkel but after all it's "Oktoberfest" and the beers already been made...
Guess we're going to war before the NYSE tanks folks!!!
I think I read an Alexander Mercouris article at Russia Insider that said that new contracts will not be in dollars and that Russian firms were being encouraged to default on all Western loans.
Hit 'em where they live!
There is not 1 man or woman in german politics which is worth anything.
They managed that only human garbage entered politics always like the rest of the world.
What a stupid pack of fools. They will kill us all, and none of your pathetic survival kits and stacks of gold coins will save your ass from world war 3, nothing will be left.....nothing.
They will kill us all, and none of your pathetic survival kits and stacks of gold coins will save your ass from world war 3, nothing will be left.....nothing.
TBR to your point. You can only blame the psychopath(s) that own you so much when you allow them to own you for this long!
We could always use their logic. "We'll dig our way out!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VjPNKc0VsU
Humanity will survive a nuclear war. You morons who preach that it'll sterilize the planet know nothing.
What a stupid pack of fools. They will kill us all, and none of your pathetic survival kits and stacks of gold coins will save your ass from world war 3, nothing will be left.....nothing.
Volkswagons for nukes settlement deal?
Have to keep the sheeple frightened and the MIC well funded. Thank God we have a Peace Prize winner in the White House!
The US has 1000 launch-ready strategic nuclear weapons that can be launched with a few minutes warning and can hit any target in the world in 30 minutes or less.
So puting 20 nukes in Germany is supposed to "send a message", but it makes nuclear war easier to accomplish because these variable-yield weapons go in the hands of field commanders, who can select a 0.3 kiloton yield (300 tons of TNT) which makes them more "usable".
Once the nuclear firebreak is crossed, all hell will break loose.
http://www.nucleardarkness.org/warconsequences/hundredfiftytonessmoke/
"any target in the world in 30 minutes or less"
Or your pizza is free.
I would like fukushima fish eyes on mine!
So puting 20 nukes in Germany is supposed to "send a message", but it makes nuclear war easier to accomplish because these variable-yield weapons go in the hands of field commanders, who can select a 0.3 kiloton yield (300 tons of TNT) which makes them more "usable".
What makes this so laughable P is that the Chinese and Russians don't have it... But no one seems to understand "why" they don't have it!
They are both looking at the U.S. saying "lookee looke here what we can do"... We can altter the extent of the nuclear damage we want to deliver just like we said in the 70's that the Russian's pack their warheads to the limit and with one missile destroy 2/3 of the Eastern sea board while we can target everything with "precision"?... WOW we make our warheads better than yours!!!
What difference does it make if you have variable-yield weapons? Cause once you take the gloves off to start a nuclear mutually assured destruction scenario Game Over Man?!!!
Logic only for the criminally insane who want to start it!!!
I don't think the German people will permit this, regardless of any existing agreements. The world has changed. We know better now.
https://youtu.be/0gVLv5eg4Xg?t=5093
Entropy. As the energy of knowledge is dissipated it becomes centralised and isolated into smaller groups of people so as to conserve energy. In other words, only a very few people know better, most have worsened and are impossible dullards.
Just look at ZH compared to other sites, people at work, family and friends. Speaking to the average person confirms we are in the new dark ages. ZH has a lot of well reasoned people, but only reading it will give you a false sense of how the rest of the world thinks. Pigeons and sheep are smarter. We're in for a hell of a ride.
German people have no say in this. Do you not understand you are occupied by US forces. Or do you really think it's to protect the children? Wake up Germany! You ban nuclear power but allow nuclear weapons, do you not see? Germany and the UK are bitches for the US or at least whoever is driving this bus off the cliff.
VW is on the line. They'll go along.
Fuck it. Learn to walk and like it.
Kick those fucking Yanks out of Europe already.
"German Economic News also reports on Chancellor Merkel’s decision to allow these terror-weapons against Russia: "The Bundestag decided in 2009, expressing the will of most Germans, that the US should withdraw its nuclear weapons from Germany. But German Chancellor Angela Merkel did nothing.” And now she okays the U.S. to increase America’s German-based nuclear arsenal against Russia."
They have no say so,just like the American people.Case in point: 80% of the American people were against TARP.Congress approved it anyway.
Germans will now be at the mercy of American foreign policy. If America and Russia go at it Germany will be obliterad in the first wave. Somebody must have been rewarded handsomely to sacrifice their own countrymen.
Does this mean ISIS will get nukes soon? According to USNATO logic the enemy of evil is worse than evil. Russian aggression against ISIS will not stand.
Oops, the Islamic State of Germany, who could have known? ..just some "unitended consequences"
Found on board a Russian tanker that was hijacked in international waters near Libya?
The Westerm MSM headline would be - Not Content with Shooting Down MH17, The Evil Russian Regime (TM) has given Nukes to ISIS
"ISIS" as you call them already have nukes which are stored in Dimona and on Dolphin submarines.
American Disease : I deserve to get away with anything and everything . I can violate NPT its not an issue but will drag russia on false claims for violating npt with my discredited media . #WithusORAgainstus
If they're propelled by Volkswagen clean diesels, they're tactical.
These weapons are to make sure Germany doesn't think about to ask for her gold back or break from US.
*Germany has been US hostage since the end of WWII
The name "Obama" not found once in the article. As usual.
Russia's actions seem to me to be defensive and reasonable and in response to the actions and provocations of the US. Good god is there anywhere on the planet we are not stirring up the shit?
Who's we?
With almost 20 trillion in unpayable debt, what does anyone expect? If we provoke Armageddon, we don't heve to pay back... we annilate everyone, and pick up the spoils. Elementary, dear Watson!.... What coulkd go wrong, eh?
nudelman in your face move. i'm sure vlad has advisors now sayin' let's finish the job this time. stupid german submission.
Perfect. Thus, another false-flag dirty-bomb nookular terrahwrist incident can be conducted. Look! Da Rooskies nookified downtown Hamburg! Deaf-Con 1 stat! Seriously, this global nw0 game of RISK is getting blatantly obvious. Declare world oligarchical dictatorship and be done with it, you insufferable pricktoids.
BTW, not sure if that italic text under the article-photo is meant to be a related caption, but if so....not real good. Those are not German Tornado pilots, but rather USAF weapons-crews. And they're loading/unloading the centerline pylon on a USAF F-15E, not a Luftwaffe Tornado. As to what the orange-colored device is, could be a dummy or test-bed piece of ordnance, will leave it to the weapons-troops to determine if it could be a simulated newk.
"BTW, not sure if that italic text under the article-photo is meant to be a related caption,"
Don't confuse the ordinary MSM reader with facts. It will only upset them.
Germany is owned 100% by the tribe and has been since their crushing defeat in WW2 by Bolshevik and Anglo forces (both run by the tribe). The Germans are a broken people and a defeated race. They are actually quite pathetic. Even the small number of Muslims here openly patrol the streets of German cities with their "Sharia police" because the effeminate, broken Germans and even the police will do nothing against them. Every German man worth a damn died fighting to the death in WW2 while vastly out numbered by the combined Anglo and Bolshevik nations and the best women were taken back to the United States. There's nothing left but Slavic rape babies and cucked beta males that want their 1 child (usually a daughter) to head down to the refugee center and suck diseased Muslim dick. All the while Angela Merkel, childless communist whore that she is, pours endless hordes of Muslims and blacks into Germany, an overcrowded nation of 85,000,000 people stuffed into a territory half the size of Texas.
My utter disdain for modern Germans is hardly expressible in words.
WE Europeans have to unite and stop this insanity of the US. Germans wake up and fight against this madness.
What could go wrong? And we still have most of thier gold where it's save. Tho I hear ft Knox is empty and the tanks are gone
Seriously. Honest to God. Barack Obama needs to mail his Nobel Peace Prize back to Norway with a written apology. Even Bush could never dream of some of the stuff Obama is doing against Russia and China
But, but that was the plan.
Obamie has war with left cover.
No antiwar protests, eh.
it's a beautiful plan..
Jes We Can!!
Exactly why anyone who votes for a Democrat means we get 4 more years of this shit
The fact that we are even having discussions about "MAD" again at this point in Earth's timeline tells me all I need to know about the dystopic / dysfunctional psychopathology of these nutso's.
Coo Coo Ca Choo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU4uaKgCQ9A
What could posiibly go wrong? Russia will not stand for this. The PRIVATE Federal Reserve needs a proxy to be blamed for the financial collapse. Here comes the war option.
Strange news to me, since germany always had US nuclear weapons on its territory. According to the news over here these are the B61's with kevlar parachutes, that need to be dropped. The load is adjustable, just like Perimetr said. Seeing the movements of late, its disconcerting, so called attack on an Russian Army base in Syria with Sat Intel found with the ISIS terrorists. Mortar attack near the embassy, now this. Heh, not really cold war 2.0 anymore is it? at least it doesn't feel like it to me.
Just WHAT the fuck are we (the U.S.) doing?!?
Trying to get Russia to start a war so the pre-planned demolition of the global economy can be blamed on them.
Trying to destroy Russia
Trying to get control of Russian resources via regime change
Trying to pimp up profits in the MIC
Different groups have different reasons
US is threatening the German people, not Russia.
Keep the lies coming.
I can see through them all.
lol what just 20, forward need 30 to be sure
Are we sure the missles are aimed at just Russia? Perhaps they are also aimed Europe to keep them marching to the NEOCON banner.
Can drones deliver nuclear weapons ?
no, hellfires thou guided night infra red thou
yeah, what can go wrong? I need some tan anyway...
I hope the war is broadcast in 4K Ultra.
I think this one is in 3MeV Ultra Bright. But you know how it is - Varies across different DVD regiions.
I don't have words to describe my total disgust for the ignoramuses in our govenment and military who are responsible for this brainchild. The German people had better remove Merkel quick, before their country becomes a radioactive ash heap. The Russians have seen this movie before and believe me, they are NOT amused.
A while ago Obama stated there were two threats to the US national interest - ISIS and Russia. We (and the US leaders, and the Russians) know that ISIS is a US-controlled asset so it boils down to just one - Russia. The Russian leaders took this to be a declaration of war and are preparing accordingly. The western civilians won't know what has hit them when TSHTF.
They have just opened a new base for modern diesel-electric subs at Novossiyrsk on the Black Sea coast. The Black Sea is now a Russian-owned lake.
Waiting to hear Ben Carson announce he is going to the Wailing Wall.
The ZioNazis would love another negroe in the White House. easy to control.
Boris Borselav, one of the leaders of the far right Ukrainian neo-nazi group Pravy Sektor is Jewish and likes to visit the Wailing Wall. Whodathunkit, actual Jewish Nazis praying the the Wailing Wall! That really is inclusive and multicultural!
Pravy Sektor is considering joining the other far right neo Nazi group Sovoboda. They both agree that the Ukraine regime isn't doing enough to ethnically cleanse the east of Ukraine.
An amusing side note: The name Sovobda (= Freedom) was chosen to repelace the less acceptable existing party name as part of the CIA preparations for the coup in Kiev in February 2014. The original name of the party? Social Nationalist! Phew, at least they were not called National Socialist. That could make some suceptible westerners think they were, well, actual Nazis.
Boris Borselav, one of the leaders of the far right Ukrainian neo-nazi group Pravy Sektor is Jewish and likes to visit the Wailing Wall. Whodathunkit, actual Jewish Nazis praying the the Wailing Wall! That really is inclusive and multicultural!
Pravy Sektor is considering joining the other far right neo Nazi group Sovoboda. They both agree that the Ukraine regime isn't doing enough to ethnically cleanse the east of Ukraine.
An amusing side note: The name Sovobda (= Freedom) was chosen to repelace the less acceptable existing party name as part of the CIA preparations for the coup in Kiev in February 2014. The original name of the party? Social Nationalist! Phew, at least they were not called National Socialist. That could make some suceptible westerners think they were, well, actual Nazis.
The Ruskie's still don't understand that the US/Nato warfuck's don't give a shit about treaties, rules or laws. They are gonna want their wars with the Ruskie's as their boogeymen.
Come on man russia has to spread there tankes from europe to middle east. to china largest border ever...
Isn't that what we pushed Uncle Adolf into, a 2 front war?
Except this time China has Russia's back and Russia has China's back.
The just-in-time delivery system adopted by the psychopathic US CEOs to maximise profits doesn't cope very well when you are at war with your principle supplier. How long will it take for Walmart to empty its shelves once the container ships start arriving?
"Life was filled with guns and war, and everyone got trampled on the floor. I wish we'd all been ready........"
I know that song. Me, I'm as ready as I'm ever going to be.
"And now she okays the U.S. to increase America’s German-based nuclear arsenal against Russia."
Please --- Just stop it...
'She' doesn't 'Ok' taking a morning piss without State Department approval.
Germany is controlled by the US
and the US is controlled by Zionist Jews.
The war on Russia has been and is very largely a Jewish and a Zionist war against Russia.
Only if Israel paid a price for its aggression in the M.E. would things potentially recede from the brink.
But with nutty Yahoo in charge, figuring his tribe runs the US, he will continue to act as the Christian-murdering ISIS' air force, and continue to bomb Syrian army posts in the names of stopping "terrorists" [sic] from getting "dangerous {defensive} weapons {to protect themselves from Israel."
China needs to deploy a couple token boats and some troops to Syria.
And anything NATO, or Israeli in the air without Assad's permission ought to be shot down.
And any missiles sent from sea or shore should be responded to in kind, 5 fold.
The only thing Likudnik Israel understands is violence.
If there's a latent peace movement in the US, UK, Israel and elsewhere.... now's a good time to get off your ass...
dude he's muslim which we dont know
Hey we can't have those mean spirited Iranians build a bomb...they might hurt someone...but it is OK for the US to put the latest technical nuclear bombs in Germany and point them toward Russia...well when you are a Nobel Peace Prize winner and happen to be the President of the US..you have the credentials and authority to do things like that...
Germany is a US puppet state. Merkel does what Barry Hussein's puppet masters tell her to do.
< market crash, then war
< war breaks out, then market crash
Which do you believe will come first?
They want the war to start first of course, but think about the number of times they've failed already. In Ghouta, in Donbass, in Odessa and so on. We can only hope they remain as ineffectual.
The ZIonist finacial warmongers have painted themselves into a corner. They never take responsibility for their actions so it is clearly war (or plausible approximate via a false flag) then 'Pull it' as usual.
Ahh, back to the good old days. Now if we can just get gasoline under a buck and everyone dressing up and wearing suits and ties when they fly. People were more kind and well mannered during the cold war.
Marduk did it with only 7.
... well bigger world, I guess.
The "Gift" That Keeps On Giving:
The USSA ZIO-CONs want to do to Europe what they've already done to the Middle East.
Does NO-ONE hold this 5th Columist SCUMMM* accountable???
(SCUMMM* - Satanic CAbal Underwriting Mass-Murder & Mayhem)
They just need those nukes to protect against added vibrancy currently being imported from the Middle East and Africa.
the NWO is going to lose.. Gog and Magog survive to the end... Russia will only get stronger, at least until Armageddon...
Bible says so...
Russia has now mobilized their first strike units.. www.whatdoesitmean.com
Never heard of this publication. How legit is it?
All links on ZH are beyond reproach. Especially the Pootin ones.
It is just a link farm. Follow the links to see the meat.
One leads to an Express (western MSM) article saying the British detected that an approaching Russian bomber started its nuke arming sequence. This sounds like BS but it is clearly preparing the ground to blame Russia for triggering nuclear explosions or the use of nukes somewhere. Maybe the first stage will be the discovery of a supposed nuke on an intercepted Russia vessel?
About as legit as Harry Potter
ignore sorcha faal is terrible..
you have no clue identify those from Scripture.
that site is a mess
What's this suppose to do, stationing nuclear bombs to Germany? All it does is put a target for Russian nuclear strike on Germany. Besides the bombs are worthless, it takes too long to deliver; meanwhile, the Russians have medium range ballistic missiles that can reach Germany within 15 minutes. Provoking Russia is a futile effort look what they did to Crimea and now Syria. If you just left them alone and improve relations with Putin all this could have been averted. Under George Bush Putin's Russia had a friendly relations with the west. We even used Kazachstan to ferry troops into Afghanistan with the Russian permission. When Obama took office Russian relations went haywire...why?
To prepare the ground for use of nukes (probably false flag) by Russia in the eyes of western ciitizens / subjects.
Do folks here realize what this really means? REALLY?!
If the US launches from places like the Dakotas, Russia will have about 10 to 15 minutes to confirm an attack. If it launches from Germany, Russia will have about 1 to 3 minutes to confirm an attack. That makes an accidental retaliatory strike at least 100 times more probable. And if that happens, we all die. This gravely endangers the American people, obviously.
The word is that stealth submarines and aircraft can now be detected.
If I ran Russia, I would build very large B-58 Hustler style supersonic supercruise aircraft that could be rocket-assist launched instantly. With large V-22 Osprey-like vertical takeoff tankers to refuel them. And these would move Topol-M ICBMs around Russia. These could be recalled. Also I would build railroad freight trains with rockets in them that cannot be distinguished from normal trains. (They are doing this now.)
That way, decisions could be made very quickly since they would be revocable.
Putting rockets near Russia is putting Americans and everyone else at unacceptabe risk! They must be insane.
And they are insane, we know that.
They are insane, because they actually believe that there is such thing as limited/tactical nuclear war and that it is survivable. The only hope is that if such a war takes place, that these futhermuckers hiding away in their bunkers survive long enough to crawl out of their holes and die the most hideous death possible.
Karma is a bitch.
What else west should do after "President Vladimir Putin has said he was ready to put Russia's nuclear weapons on standby during tensions over the crisis in Ukraine and Crimea" and "Putin moves to establish Russian military base in Belarus"
NATO forces in Europe exists on a spreadsheet. US down form over 400k troops to about 50k. No stomache to rearm in Europe as Obama's motives are questioned. Trying to round up make shift Baltic militias to do the fighting. ANd no one can afford to buy any US tanks, so there is no profit. There you have it. Put in some nukes. Stab porky in the back and let the real nationalists hang him from the lampost. Allow Ukraine to unify on special terms by itself. Call it a day, Obama. Just like all the rest. Situation normal, all fkd up.
What sort of message does that send to Russia? German trade with Russia amounts to 45% of their total exports, almost as much as goes to the whole of the EU, over 350,000 German jobs depend on exports to Russia, German industries are getting totally pissed off with Merkel's Obama backed sanctions on Russia, this will not go down well in Germany or Russia.
100,000 Muslim refugees and a couple of dozen more atom bombs.
What could go wrong?
Hopefully, US will pay Germany a lot of money for the right to station nuclear weapons on German soil, which Germany can use to pay Gazprom. In the end, Germany wins, because it gets gas for free, Gazprom wins, US gets to flex its muscles once again and still be the dumbest kid on the block. This is getting ridiculous-er by the hour, the world will run out of popcorn soon. In earnest, somebody in Washington must have gotten a promotion for this "brilliant" idea. Seriously, I don't know what should I do: should I cry or should I laugh.
So Davy Cameroon, the elite fop piece of crap in Britland had sex with a pig...what did the wretched Mutti manage to shag apart from the jaded German masses? One day when all the NSA filmed filth is on youtube everything will be abundantly clear...if the planet survives the old Teutonic hag's treachery!
When Kermit the frog received confirmation that Dave-boy Cameron had sex with a dead pig, Kermit commented " at least my pig was alive".
SMELLS TO ME OF THE "DISTRACT THE POPULATION" PLAYBOOK! THIS WILL GET THE GERMAN POPULATION ANGRY AND VOCAL - IE, "DISTRACTED".
NOW THE QUESTION IS - "WHY ARE THEY NEEDING TO DISTRACT THE PEOPLE?" IS DEUTSCHE BANK ABOUT TO COLLAPSE? HMMMMM.... I SMELL A ROTTEN FISH HERE!
Deutsche Bank is in trouble in Russia. It is caling back its investment unit there.
“This decision has been made in order to reduce complexity, costs, risks and capital consumption,” the bank said in a news release.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/19/business/dealbook/deutsche-bank-to-shr...
Reducing capital consumption seems like a good idea, but it suggests some bigger problem.
The thought is that it will be possible to fight a limited nuclear war in Europe against Russia leaving the US Homeland intact.
If I lived in Europe I would be pissed, remember command of these missiles will remain in American hands.
The targetting of the UK's supposedly independent nuclear deterrent is under US control / veto. We can't have commie pinkos who don't skull fuck dead pigs even thinking of targetting them at the US can we?
So...Russia is about to bomb the proxy war against Syria to death and now 20 extra US nukes in slavish Krautstan. Surely a coincidence.
EVERY PERSON IN GERMANY NEEDS TO HIT THE STREETS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
Those who engineered this can be understood by the phrase "boundaries blurs btwn tactical and strategic nuclear weapons. So, apparently a tactical nuclear weapon is less than 80 FRIGGIN KT's ? You must be sh*ttin me ! ! ! Lets see 20 new BLURRY missiles to Germany? That is going to make us safer? Non-prolif treaty ( tear it up )? Merkel must be desperate to give her people more reason to unload her or at their enuf facists now in Germany to keep her in power? Is this the Neo-Con suicide note?http://denaliguidesummit.blogspot.ca/
US foreign and military policy appears irrevocably locked into the 20th century. Generals are always fighting the last war.
Russia’s ultimate lethal weapon:
Imagine Russia defaulting on all its foreign debt – over $700 billion – on which Western sanctions have raised extra, punitive costs in terms of repayment.
Russia’s Security Council asked presidential aide Sergei Glazyev to come up with a separate economic strategy, to be presented to the council this week.
And here’s where the plot thickens. Glazyev, a brilliant economist, is a Russian nationalist – sanctioned personally by the US.
"Glazyev is arguably going no holds barred. He is in favor of barring Russian companies from using foreign currency (which makes sense); taxing the conversion of rubles to foreign currencies (same); banning foreign loans to Russian firms (depending if they are not in US dollars or euro); and – the smoking gun – requiring Russian companies that have Western loans to default. Predictably, some sectors of US ‘Think Tankland’ went bonkers......" http://thesaker.is/russias-ultimate-lethal-weapon/
Hannibal, thanks for sending this. I mentioned this article (wrongly attributed to Mercouris, not Pepe) on another thread about the strategic debt default.
How much does Obama expect Europe to bleed in his "Russian re-set"
How does Western Europe like losing their sovereignty. First the disastrous Russian sanctions. Now making Germany Ground Zero for nukes.
Obama is a disaster for leading his team.
I observe that, since its inception, the USA has never met a war it didn't like.
It seems to Manifest its Destiny, because it not only insists on blazing its own Destiny, but also has the unmitigated hubris to do so for everyone, as though this were some kind of a Divine Manifestation. "America knows bests", it appears.
America seems unrivaled in its propensity for combining Organized Superstitions with Profiteering and and Violence. Or, as is more commonly known by the 3 Gs: God, Greed and Guns.
I continue to be intrigued how the USA and the world will fare, and perchance to even evolve. Will mankind survive, when the limits and shortcomings of their reptilian and primate brain keep frustrating or derailing the cognitive parts of their brains?
Man. Deep State thinks this is still the early 1950's - US just can't help fisting itself.
I grew up in the 80s and I remember the massive anti Nuke demonstrations all over the world. Especially in Germany. How can the common German sit back while Obama and America drag them back into the Cold War where it goes hot first in Central Europe
Merkel''s gov't should fall over this
Maybe they told them this was to bomb the migrants...
Please ignore that Russia has been violating all the nuke treaties they signed since Putin took office and has done a butt load of work on them while the obamaessiah has been dismantling ours and putting them in warehouses.
I hope there isn't a Putin Doctrine that looks like the Bush Doctrine.
"To forestall or prevent such hostile acts by our adversaries, the United States will, if necessary, act preemptively in exercising our inherent right of self-defense."
Russia already have FIRST STRIKE capable weapons.
It's called SS-36 (NATO codename SATAN).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-36_(missile)
It's the BIGGEST ICBM in the world! Not even America has ICBM this big! It can carries MORE THAN 14 warhead! With at least 40 penetration aids! (Decoys, jammers, even shielding armour for nuke head protections).
Explanations as to why US so angry about this missile.
http://in.rbth.com/blogs/2014/05/23/satan_scare_why_the_us_is_going_ball...
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And now Russia start to designed its replacements. It's called SARMAT!
http://sputniknews.com/military/20150721/1024867722.html
You don't think Russia just stand still watching US stunt, do you??
Russia's military plan is: if we are hit and it looks like we might lose against conventional weapons, then we will use nukes.
So USA strikes first, and Russia strikes back with nukes. Then we break out our old Tom Lehrer songs - "We'll all glow together when we go."
So, after Fukashima Germany shuts down all of its nuclear reactors because of safety concerns, but they think it is a fine idea to place new and improved nuclear weapons on their soil.
Fucking retards!!!!
Only four times, must be tactical.
What a waste.
Maybe its time Germans stand up against their own government. Have they forgot what atrocities and false accusations were they subjected to by their current "allies"?
The thing is, we surely already have nukes there. America is fully tentacled around Germany, and the post 9/11 increase of personnel and weapons is certainly no secret either...
So this is basically just rhetoric, an invitation to war. "XOXOXO, USA"
They are seriously trying to start a nuclear war, to hide their failures.
Now, First thing first..
EU countries (well.. some of them.) you ALREADY host this US nukes for sometimes. Haven't you knew about this??
Here's the list,
http://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/nato-nuclear-disarmament/
Do UNDERSTAND, the country that HOSTS these B61 nukes? Are already TARGETED by Russian nukes. You should have KNOWN about this consequences (so do your govt). No. I'm NOT trying to scares you. A better informed person is what i intent.
Now, this is assessment of why that US nuke deployment in EU is USELESS.
http://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2014/09/05/us_nukes_in_europe_a...
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Now. USA, withdraw from ABM (Anti Ballistic Missile) Treaty during BUSH administration in 2002.
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/abmtreaty
ABM treaty was made, so each country nuclear weapons stockpile can be LESSEN cause you limits the interceptor missile to shield your country. This would ENSURE, with just small number of nuclear head you still can get the DETERRENT effect of you strategic nuclear stockpiles. And hence the M.A.D doctrines? Stay in BALANCE.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction
Now, in 2002? G. Bush withdraw from ABM treaty. And USA increase the number of their ABM missiles.
Now, from Russia POV, US increasing the ABM missiles number? Means the DETERRENT effect of its nuclear stockpiles becomes LESSEN!!
This a dangerous for Russia, cause MAD doctrines are now doesn't valid, cause US making more of its ABM shields!
So? What Russia do? Making MORE nuclear warhead!! And making its rockets delivery much more DIFFICULT to intercept by American ABM!!
Hence you see this news from Russia,
New Topol-M variant SS-27.
http://www.rense.com/general69/tiddosdzdd27makes.htm
Russia new Hypersonic Nuke Warhead.
http://sputniknews.com/military/20150628/1023954331.html
Bush withdrawing from ABM treaty? Actually makes you US & its ALLIES more likely to get hit by Russian nukes!!
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And then, Obama, makes announcement that he wants to placed ABM system in EU.
http://www.rt.com/news/hagel-shoigu-missile-defense-356/
Of course Russia furious. Cause that would even undermined it nukes deterrent for EU. So, what Russia do to counter that? Here,
New RS-26 IRBM/ICBM.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-26_Rubezh
At max payload (12 MIRV + decoys)? It has range of 6000 km. Enough to cover EU.
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Now understand this. This US stunt in US and EU? Actually INCREASES the chance that you (US & Allies) to have a nuclear confrontation with Russia!
Is this actually what you want?
Messing with Russia? Understand Russia must counter act what US do first?
Oh come off it, you are just over doing it now.
Russia would do jackshit.
It is targeted by thousands of weapons right now, there have been USN SSBNs on patrol since 1960, long before Russia got them, and the US had MIRVs on subs long before Russia got MIRVs on subs.
US Strategic forces (Total Today)
851 Strategic Delivery Platforms
1,920 Strategic Warheads
The B-61 is not counted among these either as it is not a strategic weapon, it is a variable yield tactical weapon.
This is not the West's first rodeo, we know how this works.
The weapons going into Germany are not even new.
Well, not in the sense the article means for us to think, anyway. They are in fact upgraded capability new rebuilds of already existing B-61 bombs, that already housed at German airbases.
They have been there all along since the cold war ended - they never left. So nothing has fundamentally changing here, at all.
That article is playing on words simply because being rebuilt means that yes, these are actually shiny and brand new weapons, fresh from production, But these are not new at all to German military bases.
This is a "nuclear umbrella" capability.
That umbrella existing is the reason why Germany signed the NPT and didn't develop its own nukes. the same applies for many Western middle powers, and many of them are thus effectively nuclear armed, and most existing advanced allied strikefighters have the capacity to deliver at least one B-61 nuke. The F-35A is already certified to carry two internally in low-observable configuration, the F-22A, same.
I suppose that's why....
....Putin could give a rat's ass about the US's shiny new toys.
How is this going to affect Germany's next elections? How is this going to play in Potsdam and Peenemunde?
Everyone had forgotten about the old bombs. The new generation prolly didn't know about them at all.
It's gonna bite your side on the bottom, Element. Wait till the next by-elections in Das Reich.
Oh bullshit, they will vote on the price of bus fares and all these rag heads in the streets, as usual. If they can't be bothered about nukes in their home town, chances are they are mature and adjusted enough to cope with it. What's the worst they can do, vote for Merkel again?
The military calls the shots on nuclear weapons in all of the B-61 NATO countries, not the civilian Parliament. Strategic issues do not get left to the vagaries of civilian security cabinets and voting whimsies. The military decides what it really needs, and mere politicians get told to shutup.
That's how it really works.
I suppose you could be right, although as usual you're not.
It's the rag heads that care about bus fares. Most Germans drive Mercedes; the less fortunate have to drive Audi 6's and Passats.
Don't you mean NOT vote for Merkel?
You are certainly right about NATO's military calling the shots, not the elected parliament.
You know, I've been pretty patient with you, for awhile now, because I figure one day you might actually go ahead and say something really interesting, and we might have a really enjoyable mutual conversation, as there's been so much fluffing from your side. So I keep thinking that any moment he's going to say something quite thought provoking, and we'll get into it. But it just ain't happening.
Instead you seem to increasingly be acting like some of the know-nothing trolls around here. Why is that? What are you afraid of? You're not as inadequae as them are you? Any time you want to mix it up on a topic, or just have a yak, fire away, but spare me this little snippy interjection routine. It really does you no credit at all. ;-)
You have a symbiotic relationship with people like me who reply to your trollisms.
After a dozen or so of your Putin/Russophobic buds identify your comment by your space age avatar, they up vote you without reading it because they know it's boiler plate anti-Putin, anti-Russian.
If you want your comment to read at all, it will be by readers who know too well 'for whom your bell trolls', and force themselves to skim the comment which engendered the interesting reply.
:o /
um ... wait ... what?! hahaha! omg you're a bloody idiot ... that's what you've got? ... bullshit whining because I call Russian trolls, "Russian trolls", and you really don't like that? ... even though I piss on all 'sides' equally? ... hahaha! You really are an idiot.
I recommend you shutup then if you're only a Russian troll defender and have nothing of value to add at all but your whining about Russian trolls and pootie the god-king being bitch-slapped frequently with disagreeable facts and perplexing implications of them, that may severely impinge your feelings. hahaha!
That's some pathetic mind-fucked shit you've got going on there mate. :D
Unlike you, I care about others so I find it difficult to tell you that no one reads your comments for its content. No one except the dozen or so other NATO trolls loitering about this web site.
Comments like yours are read for their McCainlike proclaimations, unintentional humor and just as a source of innocent merriment.
You say you 'piss on all sides equally'. Fortunately I've never witnessed your demonstration of that fact, although I'm sure the pub crawlers you drink with probably have had it splashed on their trousers as proof.
But you are in good company as Victoria Nuland makes the same claim.
When you hear someone assert that he or she is fair, you had better immediately get a good lawyer because you are about to be sued for everything you have.
Hope you are well :o|
You live in a dark world or resentment and angst. Just not interested in your emotional tribulations and aspirations for perfect justice. The world does not give a toss how much you disapprove of it, or want it to not be like it is. It's you, not it, you are the one who has concocted an imaginary problem out of the world, and set yourself false and unreachable goals. i.e. self-sabotage.
With what? Submarine? Like this?
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/silent-running/
Or this?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-492804/The-uninvited-guest-Chine...
That's not even the latest Russia/Chinese subs!
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Really? America not counting that B61?
You thinks Russia that stupid?
http://ploughshares.org/world-nuclear-stockpile-report
Who have the MOST nukes?
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F35? The one that cost 1.5 trillion$ and still HAVEN'T FINISHED testing?
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2013/02/26/The-Pentagons-Incredib...
And still CAN'T SHOOT ITS GUN!
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/31/new-u-s-stealth-jet-can...
F22?
F22 LOOSE dogfights with OLD Germans Typhoon.
http://www.wired.com/2012/07/f-22-germans/
F22 LOOSE dogfights with France Rafale.
http://theaviationist.com/2013/06/19/f-22-shot-down-by-rafale/
Indian AF Sukhoi BEATS UK Typhoon.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/homehtmls/indian-air-force-beats-ra...
What are the change your F22 dogfighting sukhoi??
Here another one . about sukhoi 30! Not the latest 35BM, or even pakfa?
http://theaviationist.com/2014/06/18/su-30-beat-f-15-everytime/
Here's your own america think thank simulation of China sukhoi fights against F22 over taiwan.
http://www.wired.com/2009/08/think-tank-china-beats-us-in-simulated-taiw...
Really? You really trust that JUNKS??
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Don't watch FOX news too much. You'll becomes delusional.
OK, you've now fully shown your hand, you're another bullshit Russian Troll for saint pootie - got it.
You just an empty big mouth with no essence. Got that.
Hey dumbfuck, have a look:
http://www.armscontrol.org/files/images/Warhead_Inventories_C.png
The difference in total numbers is the difference in the other Allied western nuclear arsenals, you bloody moron.
Did you seriously believe that the West would ever allow Russia to have a nuclear strike advantage over it?
Are you a complete fucking idiot, or what? Clearly you don't have a clue of the actual situation.
Notice also on that graph linked that the West has slightly more deployed nukes.
Oh dear ...
And yes, that 1,980 US strategic nukes does in fact exclude the number of B-61 tactical nukes. I checked in advance fool. ;-)
There you go dumb-dumbs. Thanks for playing. :D