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U.S. Will Station New Nuclear Weapons in Germany Against Russia
Submitted by Eric Zuesse, investigative historian Eric Zuesse is the author, most recently, of They’re Not Even Close: The Democratic vs. Republican Economic Records, 1910-2010, and of CHRIST’S VENTRILOQUISTS: The Event that Created Christianity.
U.S. Will Station New Nuclear Weapons in Germany Against Russia
Germany’s ZDF public television network headlines on Tuesday September 22nd, "New U.S. Atomic Weapons to Be Stationed in Germany," and reports that the U.S. will bring into Germany 20 new nuclear bombs, each being four times the destructive power of the one that was used on Hiroshima. Hans Kristensen, the Director of the Nuclear Information Project at the Federation of American Scientists, says, "With the new bombs the boundaries blur between tactical and strategic nuclear weapons.”
German Tornado pilots regularly practice with dummies of American atomic bombs. (Source: ZDF)
A former Parliamentary State Secretary in Germany's Defense Ministry, Willy Wimmer, of Chancellor Merkel’s own conservative party, the Christian Democratic Union, warns that these “new attack options against Russia” constitute “a conscious provocation of our Russian neighbors.”
German Economic News also reports on Chancellor Merkel’s decision to allow these terror-weapons against Russia: "The Bundestag decided in 2009, expressing the will of most Germans, that the US should withdraw its nuclear weapons from Germany. But German Chancellor Angela Merkel did nothing.” And now she okays the U.S. to increase America’s German-based nuclear arsenal against Russia.
Maria Zakharova, of the Russian Foreign Ministry, says: “This is an infringement of Articles 1 and 2 of the Treaty on Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons,” which is the treaty that provides non-nuclear states the assurance that the existing nuclear powers will not try to use their nuclear status so as to take over the world.
German Economic News says: "The federal government had demanded the exact opposite: The Bundestag decided in March 2010 by a large majority, that the federal government should 'press for the withdrawal of US nuclear weapons from Germany.' Even the coalition agreement between the CDU and FDP, the German government in 2009 had promised the withdrawal of nuclear weapons from Büchel. But instead there will be these new bombs."
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My, Element -
someone got some sand in their vagina today, didn't they?
Why don't you take a bath, light some candles, pour some chardonnay, and shut the fuck up?
Why don't you contribute to the topic, on topic, or fuck off, as gratuitous ignorant twats are not actually needed, but thanks anyway. ;-D
Totally wrong, current total program cost projection for development, procurement and operation for 30 years of 2,443 x F-35A/B/C, is presently given as: $859,000,000,000. Or less than $0.86 trillion USD, or only about 60% of what you claimed there. So completely full of shit there.
That also is complete bullshit, as the gun integration and testing on the USAF F-35A was completed in July this year, all done fool! And it is one more year until it's due for initial operational capability in the USAF, so why the fuck would it need a gun before now, dumb-dumb?
And that also is complete bullshit. What you deliberately left out is that those were not standard combat configuration tests. They were pure baseline close in maneuverability tests and there were no weapons at all carried by Rafale or Typhoons, and no external fuel tanks in those tests either. And when the same tests were done with standard weapons and fuel loads, the F-22A easily won every such close-in fight.
But the F-22A kills at >50km range, not in eyeball to eyeball turning fights. You're just talking deliberate crap, you thought I wouldn't know this stuff, but I do bitch. :D
um ... what? ... it doesn't apply to an F-22A in BVR against an Su30, that's for sure. Try staying on topic, the topic is the F-22A.
Pretty damned good! Read on below. :D
Yeah ... OK ... let me know when you get into a fight with an F-15C or E and actually shoot one down, for real, as so far the kill score of the F-15C against all Russian jets to date is 110 kills for zero F-15C losses. Not looking too good for crappy Russian-made fighters, sensors and weapons ... hilarious. :D
Oh, it's an airpower analysis by Wired magazine?! Wow! ... that's awesome dude! I'm sure they really know their stuff too!
I have read many air power analysis docs my friend, and I can honestly say everyone of them has been written by either morons who know stuff all about the topic which they pretend to analyze and critique, or their scenarios are invariably naive and ridiculous in their assumptions and scenarios - invariably unrealistic.
And virtually all think-tank 'analysis', in the US, is political in nature, and it is almost always feeble crap designed for political and budget effects and not an actual airpower analysis at all.
This is not to say that actual airpower analysis does not occur, it most certainly does occur, but it is not done by civil think-tanks, it is done by the air force(s) of the United states.
Well, imagine that!
And the results remain classified, but are comprehensively applied to the development of every integrated aspect of western airpower, and every single system of systems, and the ways they interact, and all hardware as well. It is comprehensively continuously tested and refined and prioritized, as well as scheduled for redevelopment, as it is determined to need upgrade or replacement.
Now let's look at scale here:
The entire Russian defense budget for every system in all services of the Russian military in 2015 is only $81 billion in USD.
Now get this. The USA has a budget for airpower for four separate air forces, the USAF, the USN Naval airpower, the USMC Air Force and the Air National Guard Air Force.
Each of the three biggest US air forces, are all bigger than the entire Russian air force.
Did you know that? No?
And their combined annual airpower budget is over three times larger than the entire Russian defense budget.
OK?
However, in the US there is also a massive 'black' airpower program budget of another $60 billion per year, which is used to develop new airpower capabilities - continuously. So that budget alone, is 75% the total size of the whole Russian defense budget in 2015. Which was also the biggest Russian defense budget in history. Right?
And then there are all the large modern air forces of, all of Europe, Australia, Canada and Japan. The combined size of those extra air forces, alone, is about another three times larger than the Russian air force! Oh dear! ...
OK?
So Western allied airpower utterly dwarfs the pitifully puny, weak, old and outmoded Russian RuAF.
Consequently, if you monumentally ignorant unbelievably deluded Russian piss-pots, want to gamble it all on the outcome of a think-tank analysis from Wired Magazine, then by all means, knock yourself out! ;D
The west is not the slightest bit afraid of the dismal pathetic outdated, outclassed and massively out-numbered Russian aIR FArCe.
I just isn't impressive, it just looks like old shit with wings - OK?
http://theaviationist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/F-22s-in-Estonia_03...
A word of advice, make sure your ejection seats are kept in tip-top condition. ;-)
I thought you were ex-RAAF, but now you're sounding more like a sales-rep for Lockheed Martin.
Guess with the dirt-digging business not doing too well you have a bit more time on your hands to post on ZH. Maybe pickup an analyst job with Stratfor or the IPA?
Your F35 calls are almost as bad as your Australian mining and property ones.
Any time you want to point out any part of what I am saying is incorrect, on detail, in any of those topics, you can (like you would even know!). But you won't, because you are an ignorant know-nothing, with no capacity to even contribute on that level, but to butt-in to threads and talk snippy shit with no substance at all. As you are deadwood.
Adoph Hitler never cared either.
"The thought is that it will be possible to fight a limited nuclear war in Europe against Russia leaving the US Homeland intact."
That is absolute nonsense and Pentagon must know that it is impossible. What does "limited nuclear war" mean? Besides, how can they be sure that such a "limited nuclear strike" would not automatically activate the Russian doomsday machine called Perimeter? How limited such strike should be not to activate this??? And if the nuke attack destroys the Russian command centre, the doomsday machine will definitely be activated (as it was created for exactly this reason).
"The Perimeter system is made up of command ballistic missiles. Instead of flying towards the enemy, they fly over Russia, and instead of thermonuclear warheads, they carry transmitters that can send a command to launch all available combat missiles in silos, aircraft, submarines!!! and mobile ground units. The system is fully automated, the human factor is excluded or minimized in it. The decision to launch command missiles is made by an autonomous control and command system - a complex artificial intelligence system. If it detects for example sources of powerful ionizing and electromagnetic radiation, it compares them with data on seismic disturbances in the same locations, and makes a decision whether or not there was a massive nuclear strike. In this case, Perimeter would initiate a retaliation strike bypassing even Kazbek (the human command centre). Russian leaders have repeatedly assured foreign governments that there is no risk of an accidental or unauthorized missile launch. Before launching, Perimeter always checks, whether there was a nuclear attack."
If it has software, it can be hacked.
Not really.
ummmm.....no, sorry, the Perimeter cannot be hacked, it is not a "normal computer" in the modern sense of the world and it is not connected to internet:-) The machine communicates with the Russian leadership using very-low-frequency (VLF) radio signals that can burn even through a nuclear war environment. Its operation is very very simple, after all it is required only to check certain things on the basis of: If/then. For example: "if you detect a massive nuclear attack, launch attack. If you detect a small nuclear attack, try contacting the command centre. If the command centre does not answer, try contacting X. If X does not answer, launch attack...etc."
"Once initiated, the counterattack would be controlled by so-called command missiles. Hidden in hardened silos designed to withstand the massive blast and electromagnetic pulses of a nuclear explosion, these missiles would launch first and then radio down coded orders to whatever Russian weapons had survived the first strike. At that point, the machines would take over the war. Soaring over the smoldering, radioactive ruins of the Motherland, and with all ground communications destroyed, the command missiles would lead the destruction of the USA."
"Limited" nuclear war means Europe is annihilated but USA is still OK. No problemo!
How many F**ing Jews are there in Germany? They're going to kill us all.
How many tactical nuclear weapons does Ivan have? Several thousands I believe. Europe runs the risk of being turned into a nuclear wasteland. All that because we have two tribes and one of them wants to maintains its world hegemony.
this is interesting in that way that leaves an uneasy feeling in the pit of your stomach.
remember it was not two weeks ago that stratfor and debkafile among others were reporting that Russia's largest typhoon class submarine had left it's barn. while they couldn't agree on where it was headed, stratfor, defense news and others reported it was headed to the top of the world in the Arctic while debkafile, sputnik and skynews had it being deployed to the med, one has to wonder if this new deployment to Germany is related. this boomer carries 20 missiles with ten MIRV warheads on each one.
and if these two incidents of nuclear roulette do coincide and these reports are in any way accurate then we are a lot further down the wrong road then has been thus far let on to in the MSM.
if both sides are now in fact deploying nuclear assets in an aggressive, first strike posture then what we have seen (the typhoon and the forward deployment in Germany) is probably just a small part of what is really being moved around.
which leaves me to wonder as Syria and eastern Europe heat up (the head of NATO was in the Ukraine over the past few days) how close are we? we all know the psychopaths in Washington not only believe a nuclear war is winnable but that first strike doctrine is a corner stone of the pentagon's war in the 21st century strategy. needless to say MAD no longer assures the human races survival.
there was perhaps a brief moment in the 60's right after the Cuban missile crises where the opportunity to ensure we never took that leap into the abyss presented itself but it passed and here we are today.
wondering how much longer before the hands of the doomsday clock finally tick over to midnight.
Putin would love to pop a ME target just because he has never had the opportunity to fire one in anger and is jealous.
Seriously, I share your concern and well remember the Cuban Crises and the tuck and duck crap along with a plan as to where to get vaporized while trying to get home.
It was awful and scared me as a kid. Dreamed about nuclear war for years.
When CEOs of major US companies start leaving the country then you can assured 101% that judgement day is up on us.
If Russia decides to lob a few nukes at the US, I can't say I blame them much. No one is threatening the US except for N Korea. Why should the US be threatening Russia?
If it happens and when all the people in the US will rally around the flag and whoever may be president, all the while forgetting they provoked the attack and are just paying the consequences for a war loving administration.
And Bammie just appointed an openly gay man to Secretary of the Army.
Obama uses gay rage against Putin because Putin won't let homos talk to children.
http://www.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2012/06/25/larry-brinkin-sf-gay-rights...
Ya gotta admit, sometimes Putin is downright funny.
I bet Putin wouldn't let gay men be alone in the woods with groups of young boys either (Boy Scouts). Fucking monster!
To my dear German friends and relatives...
Wie dumm bist du?
Nobody likes a bully. Well, except for other bullies and their lickspittle followers.
I'm just glad the US didn't have any nukes there before now... You would have thought a terrorist group like the US would have had them there as soon as they could build enough. I guess the CIA is slower than everyone thinks.
Amerika , it's wunderbar
Rammstein. So simple even a saxon rocker can figure it out.
The US says Russia is the agressor because it put it's country too close to their NATO bases.
Godammit son, polish up the language skills.
Can the US Morons please stop playing these childish, immature games before innocent people get hurt!....
One day when the Islamic majority govern Germany..this is going to bite America in the butt.
All those colonisers from the ME flocking into Germany might finally get their just rewards.
thats great news for ISIS! When the muzzies take over Germany the US military will "accidentally" let them fall into enemy hands LOLOLOLOLOL
I got this!
Hey Angela......we can't give you your gold just yet......so how about taking some of these nukes as a trade off.
Wadda you say!
Theses nukes wil be use against Germany herself if one day she dares to break up from US hegemony.
good ole dayz:
"So, who'll save us then, Walt?" Barley asked. "You and Nedsky?"
"Vanity, if anything will, which I doubt," Walter retorted. "No leader wants to go down in history as the ass who destroyed his country in an afternoon. And funk, I suppose. Most of our gallant politicians do have a narcissistic objection to suicide, thank God.”
le Carre, The Russia House
Leaders don't give damn about anyone's opinion.
but they are full fledge narcissist
Boy I can't wait to read what the Russian govt internet trolls say today! Ever notice that the most comments come when the subject of Russia/Putin come up?
U.S. Will Station New Nuclear Weapons in Germany Against Russia....and Eastern Europe and Germany, the US will also station new nuclear weapons in Iran against Russia, then the US will encourage a Muslim rebellion in the russo-sphere.
There fixed it.
So the "Great Reset" was about restoring the good ol' days of the Cold War after all.
Considering the last nuclear test in the US was in 1992, how do they know they will work? My guess is they are Potemkin nukes and nothing more than the dummy bombs Zie Germans are already playing around with.
That’s brain-dead stupid, but very convenient if you think in ‘Divide and Conquer’ terms like the U.S. does because now even more Russian Nukes will be pointing at the heart of Europe, if it has any.
Maybe Germany is not only after the economical heart of Europe but now also want to carve it out physically with nukes.
Maybe Hitler isn’t dead after all, what did the Austrian say the German need to drawn in there own blood because it’s their fault not his.
Typically border-line behavior btw. Border-Liners will always blame somebody else never themselves.
They simply haven’t got access to a self-reflecting mirror a normal human being has, so they can’t see themselves, they only see society trough copying surrounding behavior.
Border-Liners are never late for work because that’s their framework to hold on to.
No one manufactures thousands of weapons with the sole intention of never intending to use them. Ditto for the stockpile of bio/chemical weapons we possess.
Horse sense of CabalA$$LickerHomObamma
or is it chimp sense ?
Rest of the world should get together and sanction America and Europe for nuclear proliferation and grave threat to human existence.
Boycott America
Boycott Europe
Dont trade with them , dont use Dollar & Euro
And see them fade away