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Who's Really In Charge Of Interest Rates? A Graphic Novel

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Inspired by Eugene Fama's paper, "Does the Fed Control Interest Rates?," forthcoming in the Review of Asset Pricing Studies, Chicago Booth's Capital ideas magazine exposes the awful truth of who is in charge... and it's not The Fed.

 

 

Source: Chicago Booth Magazine

 

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Tue, 09/22/2015 - 18:42 | 6581616 buzzsaw99
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WRONG! the dog is the fed and its name is janet. she wipes her ass on the new carpet after shitting in the corner. she won't go outside and look around because all the milkbones are in the cupboard. interest rates are the man of the house who does what he's told or he doesn't get any pussy.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 18:50 | 6581647 knukles
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OMG.
And it is really from Booth, not the Onion.
We're well and truly fucked.  Seriously. 

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 18:59 | 6581675 OC Sure
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Criminal apologists.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:03 | 6581693 NoDebt
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You guys are being too hard on this article.  I'm here grinning, clapping and licking the windows.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:10 | 6581714 OC Sure
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Is it not like arguing that the prevalence of Soylent Green depends on all sorts of almost undeterminable factors without ever pointing out the moral issue of what Soylent Green is?

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 20:44 | 6582009 0b1knob
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If the FED is a dog then who picks up its poop?

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 22:50 | 6582494 Peanut Butter E...
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That's easy one: The tax payer picks up after the dog.

Wed, 09/23/2015 - 02:55 | 6582803 nixy
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<That's easy one: The tax payer picks up after the dog.>

 

yes, but UNDER THREAT OF VIOLENCE if they they fail to comply. ...... Take the threat away and the bank directors have to deal with it...or go to jail and / or be subject to financial compensation.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:20 | 6581748 Urban Redneck
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This one of those times when a US-centric perspective easily slips into exceptional 'Murican misguidedness.  The primary distinction between the US central bank and the other large central banks is one of market share.  The drivers of interest rates are largely the same.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 18:54 | 6581661 nmewn
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I've got squirrels, squirrels in my pants!!!

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 20:44 | 6582008 Victor E. Overbanks
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buzzsaw99, you win the award for the best comment on ZH.

 

Also, cumba is a muzzie terrorist.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 21:05 | 6582118 wendigo
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Didn't you get banned for being a cunt? 

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 21:21 | 6582174 Son of Captain Nemo
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Well done buzz

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 22:49 | 6582490 Peanut Butter E...
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Sounds like you are implying "man" fucks the dog.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 18:46 | 6581619 kaiserhoff
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Bull Shit.

What color is the sky in his world?

It's true that Greenspan followed short rates around, before he panicked after 9/11, but that was a loooong time ago.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 18:55 | 6581666 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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Yeah, its constantly changing, like the Fed's forward guidance.  Pffft, guidance--yeah right.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:56 | 6581838 Id fight Gandhi
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The fed is a private bank that does what it wants. Govt has no power over them.

 

They answer to their owners who are NOT publically known.

 

Those owners do as they please. Grandma fed chief takes orders from the owners.

 

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 18:43 | 6581623 Scooby Dooby Doo
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That's right Sally, Lloyd's got Scooby snacks.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:05 | 6581696 NoDebt
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You finally said something funny.  Damn, you had to wait a long time for a dog-related article.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 22:59 | 6582508 Master Toms Dog
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Agreed -- truly pathetic.

Wed, 09/23/2015 - 06:19 | 6582945 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Let me male this clear to both of you, nail gun and darpa dog.

If laughter is the best medicine, I'm WAY over medicated. And if you don't like my FUCKING medicine simply skip over my comment. At this point there is contractual obligation for you to read my comments, that has been established as fact.

Now as far as other ZH'ers, I do have a limited fan base. The usual profile: those who understand what ZH is really about and know how to work the comment section....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUdG0RYd6jk

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 18:43 | 6581627 Miffed Microbio...
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There seems to be a lot of hand wringing here. Let's just blow up the Eccles building and see what happens.

Miffed;-)

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 18:55 | 6581664 RopeADope
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Per someone like Kissinger "Inaction has to be avoided".

The reason being that with action you are able to claim ownership of a time period and as such no other authorities will have the opportunity to present themselves.

Were the Fed to be inactive (disappear) and people subsequently realized the Fed actually had no effect on anything some people would lose a tremendous amount of power.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:30 | 6581772 OC Sure
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It is too late for Ticonderoga to meet Eccles.

Article V or continue to boil like frogs.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 18:46 | 6581637 Sudden Debt
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Choke chain.

 

This is probably the worst example ever :)

1. Controlling your dog starts when he's a puppy. <> The FED made the current system from  the start

2. If the dog doesn't listen, you punish him <> US army

3. You are the master as you're the food source <> They print the money and control the amount

4. A dogs love is unconventional <> People don't question the system.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 18:48 | 6581644 kaiserhoff
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Unconditional, but that also;)

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:21 | 6581752 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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Janet might do well to read how unconditional love works out in some instances.

http://www.wyff4.com/news/witness-woman-killed-in-dog-attack/34866424

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 18:47 | 6581638 MonetaryDigitalis
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No one is in charge.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 18:47 | 6581640 NoTTD
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God, that was awful.

 

Any way we can have this "cartoonist" jailed? 

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 22:21 | 6582401 medium giraffe
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Now that you mention it, that guy does look a lot like the prophet.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 18:54 | 6581648 bamawatson
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  1. there was no music. this is a better cartoon https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=100&v=91qsjSPA_JM 
Tue, 09/22/2015 - 18:55 | 6581657 Sanity Bear
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I've seen this "Fed follows, not dictates, interest rates" theory before and find it to be sorely wanting.

 

There's actual money changing hands at Fed-dictated interest rates - lots and lots and lots of it - that aren't responding to market conditions at all. Who would go to the market at higher interest rates if the Fed is offering lower ones, and they had the privilege of taking advantage of those lower rates?

 

Bottom line, Sally has the leash around the dog's neck, and not vice versa; and if she's enough of a sociopath, she will choke that dog to fucking death to get it to do what she wants.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 18:52 | 6581658 knukles
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Aaaaaarrarararraaggggghhhhhhh!

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 18:54 | 6581659 knukles
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Damned good thing we don't have academics in charge

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:34 | 6581779 OC Sure
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The philosophers are always in charge.

What people do is determined by how/what they think.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:01 | 6581688 The Indelicate ...
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They can give the large banks lots of cash at 0% which they can turn around and use to buy treasuries at 2% - a nice tidy profit on the backs of taxpayers for the owners of the cartel of private banks known as the Fed.

private banks owned, ultimately, by Jewish European banking dynasties...

which is why we can not find out formally who owns them.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:08 | 6581705 Roanman
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Banal drivel.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:13 | 6581725 Dre4dwolf
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Doesn't the USA have anti-monopoly laws?

 

If so then why the fuck are we all playing Monopoly with one banker?

http://s3.postimg.org/xn6zor70z/images.jpg

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:39 | 6581790 OC Sure
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The problem with using the anti-trust laws against the government's "trust" is that it grants credence to the anti-trust laws. These laws are not about breaking up monopolies. A monopoly can only be sustained by force, the government. "Anti-trust" laws are anti-freedom "laws."

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:21 | 6581753 FreeNewEnergy
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I licked, um, liked it, but, I play a dog on teevee.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:24 | 6581762 e_goldstein
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Fuck you and your little dog, too.

End the Fed.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:43 | 6581805 OC Sure
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The problem with just saying End the Fed is that the people who need to be convinced the most, those who don't understand how that final statement comes to be, are unconvinced as long as they believe that:

The "banks" are "printing money" and managing a "monetary policy" in the name of "employment" and low "inflation."

After all, who doesn't want their banker to give them money?

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:32 | 6581776 Lmo Mutton
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Did you really have to use Janet and pussy in the same story????

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:38 | 6581793 Occams_Razor_Trader
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That was painful- next time leave out the pictures and write it in a 3 sentance paragraph!

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:39 | 6581795 lasvegaspersona
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The problem is that the economy behaves like a cat.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:43 | 6581808 petaloka
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I like turtles.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:55 | 6581835 OC Sure
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Been to Alterac Valley lately?

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:45 | 6581810 Multivariate Man
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The theory is sorely wanting.  In addition to believing that the Fed doesn't control interest rates I've read that Fama Sr. believes that a problem with the US economy caused the 2008 crisis, not debt.  The US GDP grew 1.5% in 2008.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 19:46 | 6581814 frankly scarlet
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Greenspan, Bernake Yellen are all hired to do as they are told by the owners of the member banks The rates are rigged according to the on going LIBOR situation which should be due fining again for the on going rigging..

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 20:29 | 6581940 acetinker
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I'm still lookin' for the punch line... can y'all help?

This ain't funny- ain't funny at all.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 21:15 | 6582155 TheRideNeverEnds
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Thanks FED!  My currency may be down to three cents on the dollar from when you started but at least we can lock in home loans at three and a quarter for thirty years.  That is awesome seeing as most cant even afford the 20% down payment for an average house let alone buy one outright; what with them trading 5-10x book value in most places due to the low interest rates and money printing....  

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 21:21 | 6582173 Blopper
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Fuck the impotent Federal Reserve already.

 

The man (or woman) behind the curtain is a humbug.

Tue, 09/22/2015 - 22:51 | 6582488 MEFOBILLS
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Richard Werner explains how Fed interest rates follow private bank credit creation.

It is a positive correlation.  Credit driven economy expands, FED raises rates to slow it down.   Credit driven economy contracts, FED lowers rate.

Private bank system creates "credit" upon debtor becoming hypothecated.  Private banks are the money factory.

Fed does have power over banking system in that private bankers need their ledgers to balance, and the FED controls reserve market.  (Reserves are how credit banks settle imbalances.)

But, proper way to see it, is that private banks lend first and find reserves later.  Fed is creation of private bankers, so tail does not wag the dog.

See at 11 min 20 seconds into speech, where Werner explains interest rate mechanism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkTflCPe0qI

 

Wed, 09/23/2015 - 01:43 | 6582767 die standing
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"EVEN IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THOSE NUMBERS, IT'S WORTH ASKING WHO'S REALLY IN CHARGE"

Actually, it may not be worth asking.

To employ an aphorism "Wrong questions get wrong answers."

So for those who still want to ask, it's simple: ask with a solution.

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