Endgame: Putin Plans To Strike ISIS With Or Without The U.S.

Tyler Durden's picture

On Sunday, we noted that Washington’s strategy in Syria has now officially unravelled.

John Kerry, speaking from London following talks with British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond, essentially admitted over the weekend that Russia’s move to bolster the Assad regime at Latakia effectively means that the timing of Assad’s exit is now completely indeterminate. Here’s how we summed up the situation:

Moscow, realizing that instead of undertaking an earnest effort to fight terror in Syria, the US had simply adopted a containment strategy for ISIS while holding the group up to the public as the boogeyman par excellence, publicly invited Washington to join Russia in a once-and-for-all push to wipe Islamic State from the face of the earth. Of course The Kremlin knew the US wanted no such thing until Assad was gone, but by extending the invitation, Putin had literally called Washington’s bluff, forcing The White House to either admit that this isn’t about ISIS at all, or else join Russia in fighting them. The genius of that move is that if Washington does indeed coordinate its efforts to fight ISIS with Moscow, the US will be fighting to stabilize the very regime it sought to oust. 

Revelations (which surprised no one but the Pentagon apparently) that Moscow is coordinating its efforts in Syria with Tehran only serve to reinforce the contention that Assad isn’t going anywhere anytime soon, and the US will either be forced to aid in the effort to destroy the very same Sunni extremists that it in some cases worked very hard to support, or else admit that countering Russia and supporting Washington’s regional allies in their efforts to remove Assad takes precedence over eliminating ISIS. Because the latter option is untenable for obvious reasons, Washington has a very real problem on its hands - and Vladimir Putin just made it worse.

As Bloomberg reports, The Kremlin is prepared to launch unilateral strikes against ISIS targets if the US is unwilling to cooperate. Here’s more: 

President Vladimir Putin, determined to strengthen Russia’s only military outpost in the Middle East, is preparing to launch unilateral airstrikes against Islamic State from inside Syria if the U.S. rejects his proposal to join forces, two people familiar with the matter said.


Putin’s preferred course of action, though, is for America and its allies to agree to coordinate their campaign against the terrorist group with Russia, Iran and the Syrian army, which the Obama administration has so far resisted, according to a person close to the Kremlin and an adviser to the Defense Ministry in Moscow.


Russian diplomacy has shifted into overdrive as Putin seeks to avoid the collapse of the embattled regime of Bashar al-Assad, a longtime ally who’s fighting both a 4 1/2 year civil war and Sunni extremists under the banner of Islamic State. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu flew to Moscow for talks with Putin on Monday, followed by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Tuesday.


Putin’s proposal, which Russia has communicated to the U.S., calls for a “parallel track” of joint military action accompanied by a political transition away from Assad, a key U.S. demand, according to a third person. The initiative will be the centerpiece of Putin’s one-day trip to New York for the United Nations General Assembly on Sept. 28, which may include talks with President Barack Obama.


“Russia is hoping common sense will prevail and Obama takes Putin’s outstretched hand,” said Elena Suponina, a senior Middle East analyst at the Institute of Strategic Studies, which advises the Kremlin. “But Putin will act anyway if this doesn’t happen.”

And that, as they say, it that. Checkmate.

The four-year effort to oust Assad by first supporting and then tolerating the rise of Sunni extremists (presaged in a leaked diplomatic cable) has failed and the Kremlin has officially served a burn notice on a former CIA “strategic asset.”

There are two things to note here. 

First, Russia of course is fully aware that the US has never had any intention of eradicating ISIS completely. As recently as last week, Moscow’s allies in Tehran specifically accused Washington of pursuing nothing more than a containment policy as it relates to ISIS, as allowing the group to continue to operate in Syria ensures that the Assad regime remains under pressure. 

Second, even if Russia does agree to some manner of managed transition away from Assad, you can be absolutely sure that Moscow is not going to risk the lives of its soldiers (not to mention its international reputation) only to have the US dictate what Syria’s new government looks like and indeed, Tehran will have absolutely nothing of a regime that doesn’t perpetuate the existing Mid-East balance of power which depends upon Syria not falling to the West. Additionally - and this is also critical - Russia will of course be keen on ensuring that whoever comes after Assad looks after Russia’s interests at its naval base at Tartus. This means that even if the US, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar are forced to publicly support a managed transition, Washington, Riyadh, and Doha will privately be extremely disappointed with the outcome which begs the following question: what will be the next strategy to oust Assad and will it be accompanied by something even worse than a four-year-old bloody civil war and the creation of a band of black flag-waving militants bent on re-establishing a medieval caliphate?

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Falling Down's picture

Langley won't like that.

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

Wow, when I first glanced at that headline, I thought it read, "Putin to bomb Obama with or without ISIS."

Oh well. A guy can dream, I guess.

nope-1004's picture

Love it.  Putin gets to bomb US interests and to retaliate .gov will have to admit that ISIS was their creation, or they have no reason to deny this chess move by Russia.

Since ISIS was sold to the US public as an evil entity, doesn't it seem logical that Russia is now aligning with the US to eradicate these terrible terrists?  lmao. 

Foreign policy has become an absolute gong show, largely because it's not real anymore.  Creating terrorist groups to destabilize humanity has some bad karma, I'd think.

l8apex's picture

Go get 'em Vlad.  


Just think how happy all the native europeans will be if the migrant hordes stop...  More positive press that won't be coming Obola's way.

Bumpo's picture

Why is it assumed that "Assad must go"? He has been freely and fairly elected TWICE since 2002. I do like how Putin waited until the US was up to their neck with this bogus ISIS ruse before calling Bullshit for the whole World to see. 

Publicus's picture

Chinese military personnel are set to arrive in Syria in the next 6 weeks.

CrazyCooter's picture

Publicus, you post that in other threads, yet have no sources.

Got sources? If not, then STFU.



HowdyDoody's picture

Has the Nudelmonster had a stroke?

"Assistant Secretary of state for Europe and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland arrived at the hospital St Francis (St. Francis Hospital) in the state of new York after a stroke, the consequence of which was a partial paralysis of the right side of the body and slurred speech" - reports the BBC

"On the eve of the assistant Secretary became ill on the job, but timely care was, as Victoria Nuland worked in the office alone. Only after some time, found her unconscious, her assistant, and then was summoned emergency assistance. Doctors diagnosed a stroke and, as a consequence, hemiplegia (paralysis). Decided immediate transport Victoria Nuland in the best cardiology clinic USA the Hospital of St. Francis. We wish Victoria a speedy recovery" - informs a leading BBC America

If so, may she have a long slow and incomplete recovery. God certainly seems to be smiting a few of the Self-Chosenites.



BullyBearish's picture

No...it's just what they do (e.g. Skankfein) to garner sympathy in advance of the $hit blowing up in their faces...

Publicus's picture

Chinese military personnel are set to arrive in Syria in the next 6 weeks.

Slave's picture

This is gonna get flipped on Russia so hard as soon as US SpecOps turn up dead. 

And everybody will be too stupid to ask why they were there in the first place.

Never One Roach's picture

Slave, just yesterday the guest on NPR Diane Reems said "polls show" Americans now favor boots on the ground in Syria. Shocked me since every poll I have seen the vast majority of Americans are sick of war and do wonder wtf are we still there for.


RE: Nudleman: She had a stroke or was she just high as a kite? Those gubmint parasites in the foreign service tend to be big boozers.

Sir Edge's picture

Hal... Open The Pod Bay Door Please...

Fish Gone Bad's picture

Q: What did the hand say to the face?

A: Slap!

gmrpeabody's picture

Balls are so yesterday in the world today...

Latina Lover's picture

Howdy Doody, the sad part is that  Neocons/Neoliberals like Nudelman are interchangeable and disposable like car tires. She is a symptom of a sick system.

Having said that, I'll  bet there are millions of Ukies wishing her little or no health.

Bokkenrijder's picture

Endgame? I seriously doubt it, and I fail to see why everybody thinks this is positive for Russia. 

Russia is being used by the West to clean up the mess Obama, Cameron & the EU made, and I fear that Russia might get drawn into a long and bloody war. This won't be tanks against tanks, or battalion against battalion. It will be guerilla warfare against an enemy that is armed with suicide bombers, RPG's and flat bed pick-up trucks with AA guns bolted to them. It'll be Afghanistan 2.0 for Russia, or a similar situation the US encountered in Iraq after the conventional war was won, but the civil war started.

ThanksChump's picture

That's an odd viewpoint. It doesn't mesh with observable evidence, historical precedents or logic.


Oh. You're a .gov planted troll? Sorry, I didn't realize. Carry on!


What does that pay in the US? If you don't mind me asking... Full healthcare?

GCT's picture

Never you forget the media is just working its PSYOPS on the sheeple. Being a mouthpiece for the next move in the game of Risk. 

I think this move by Putin was brilliant to be honest.  What can this administration do?  Russia has decided to help combat ISIS which our government and the EU have set up as the newest boogeyman along with Alqueda. I am sure Isreal and the Saudi's are pissed! 

sam i am's picture


"This is gonna get flipped on Russia so hard as soon as US SpecOps turn up dead. "


Piles of the US SpecOps have been turning up dead in Ukraine for the past 1.5 year. Do you ever hear about them?


Don't overestimate. No one cares about them. Not even inssurance companies.


Fish Gone Bad's picture

Dale Carnegie could not have said it better.

scaleindependent's picture

I think Slave is right.

Now that Russia will be involved, they will be open about American dead in Syria, dead because of the evil anti christ Putin. 

"Putin must go!" you will hear. 

My cynical self would not be surprised if they have been saving US dead for just this purpose... 

Mute Button's picture

Now why would US Special Operation Forces be in Syria? "We" declined Putin's invite to join forces in attacking ISIS.

researchfix's picture

"This is gonna get flipped on Russia so hard as soon as US SpecOps turn up dead."

They will be denied. Not by Russia.

SuperRay's picture

"If any of your team is caught or captured, they will be disavowed.  Your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to remove money from politics, incarcerate criminal corporate leaders, reinstated the force of the constitution, and eliminate the Federal Reserve.  Good Fucking Luck with that, Jim (or Ethan, depending on your age)"

Victor von Doom's picture

How about fixing the up/down arrow glitch Tyler? I down voted Slave's comment. It added 1 down vote and 10 up votes. WTF?

N2OJoe's picture

Try refreshing before you click your vote.

Jugdish's picture

322 comments late but have to ask all you brilliant assholes and clowns -  where the fuck is AssAd and why havent the israli or us/isis/turkey/saudi airforce taken him out in the time before russian forces arrived? Did he have protective weapons in place already -s-300 etc or is this part of the plan for world war and armageddeon or am I some kind of goddam fuckin idiot AND I DONT WATCH CNN ENOUGH ??????????????????? btw go fuck yourself.

WillyGroper's picture

God certainly seems to be smiting a few of the Self-Chosenites.

Someone is.

Spose those DEW's are bi-directional?

Paveway IV's picture

Paralysis is no excuse for not hauling that bitch in front of the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity. If she is on a heart-lung machine and dialysis, she still deserves to have her ass hauled to the Hague to answer to genocide.

Nuland is personally responsible (among dozens of others) for the deaths of 6,500 Ukrainians at the hands of Jewish-Ukrainian Mobster Poroshenko and his mobster cronies. Anyone that has ever worked for her and all her superiors - right up to the President of the U.S. - are all accessories to genocide. If they think they're innocent in the eyes of international law, then they can plead their case in the Hague just like the rest of the criminal mass murders dragged before the judges there.

"I was just doing my job" didn't work for the Nazis at Nuremberg, and it won't work for Nuland. There is no diplomatic immunity for genocide - haul her paralyzed ass to the Hague NOW.

847328_3527's picture

<< If she is on a heart-lung machine and dialysis ... >>


... or, just flip the electric switch to the "off" position.

logicalman's picture

Simulated brown-out - for about 10 years.


Paveway IV's picture

Nudleman brings out the psychopath in me. I would never want the plug pulled on her.

I want to see her squirm for months at her own criminal trail in front of the whole world. The most painful thing you can do to a psychopath isn't death, it's forcing them to repeatedly face people they previously controlled who are eager to testify against them. Showing psychopaths that their illusion of power and control was fake is the worst possible torture on earth for them.

People think psychopaths are shamed and abhor public humiliation. It has absolutely nothing to do with that. They don't give a damn what 'people' think of them. Their entire life is about amassing power and control. Disassemble their life's work in front of their eyes and they die inside. Kind of like if you threw water on Hillary and she started cackling

ARRRRRGH! — YOU CURSED BRAT! LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE! I'm MELTING! Melting! Oh — what a world, what a world! Who would have thought a good little girl like you could destroy my beautiful wickedness?! ARRRRRGH! I'm gone! I'm gone! I'm going!...

lesamourai's picture

Those links on the supposed Nuland stroke don't lead to any article on that topic, and nor is there any mention of such anywhere on the web.

jeff montanye's picture

thank you lesamourai.  it did seem too good to be true.  anti-zionist porn.  

know what would give her a stroke?  people asking really good 9-11 questions every chance they got.  like how did cell phone calls get made in mid flight?  why was metal at wtc red hot months later?  how did those "terrorist" passports survive the crash, fireball, complete destruction of towers and be found quickly by investigators? etc. etc. etc.

9-11 is the best and possibly only route to deposing the current power elite in the u.s.  there truly is a way other than by revolution, which would be suppressed.  tptb made a bad, bad mistake and got their dicks caught in a crack.  we each must arm ourselves with information and win the hearts and minds of the american people, one by one.  no honest person can watch the twin towers fall, up close and in slow motion, and believe the official story.  it really is that simple.  and it is too evil to be explained away or ignored, once enough people have seen through the ruse.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GNww9cmZPo http://www.luogocomune.net/site/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticl...
conscious being's picture


Re. No honest person ...

Agreed. So the problem starts to look like a shortage of honest people, in which case it will be hard for Americans to claim they don't deserve what's coming. Honest with others. Honest with themselves.

The Republic fails under a shortage of honest people.

jeff montanye's picture

true indeed.  but one of the many wonderful things about 9-11 from our point of view is that those that were duped (i was for years) don't really have themselves to blame, not really.  it was a big, semi-convincing conspiracy.  the only price to pay is the illusion that the government is your friend.  not to say some governments might not be friendly, but the bush and obama administrations are not among them.

but the best part is, no prole (and we are all proles unless you knew beforehand) is being paid to keep believing!!!  it's not like it's anyone's football team or paycheck or ebt card or rich uncle.  no.  the devils that did this didn't spread the wealth around one iota.  just terror, death and destruction.

this is a long war but it can be won.  it will be an easier argument to make when most assets are down by half or two-thirds and even the government's unemployment rate is in double digits.  it is the only apparent route to significant change.

NeedtoSecede's picture

The Canadian rock band Rush had a line in a song from back in the 80's that sure seems prophetic now.


"The most endangered species, the honest man..."


Kick ass song, but was close to 9 minutes long, so never got radio air time and only hardcore fans have ever heard it.

Caught_Fish's picture

Nuland and Yellen were sitting on a park bench, when a pervert walked by and flashed them,

Nuland had a stroke but Yellen couldn't reach.

bilbert's picture

Wait - isn't she famous for the quote:  "Fuck the EU!"??

scaleindependent's picture

That link appears to have been removed.

Insurrexion's picture

Dimon, Blankfein and Nudelmonster are on "The List."


Robert Kagan is next.

Kassandra's picture

Well, hell. I can't find the Nuland article anywhere.

HowdyDoody's picture

The links point to the front page which is regularly updated. Things went very silent after the initial breaking news when the State horse broke his leg. The same would apply with spades if  the nudel monster was seriously ill. If she has had a stroke she will be out of action for probably at least a month in the best case. If she is seen in public fairly soon, then the story can be discounted. Unless the person turns out to be a body double - the evil Saddam hjad one so why not other evil people.

Thinking about it, I rmember all sorts of speculation about Putin when he disappeared from the spotlight a while ago - he's dead, he's attending the birth of his love child, etc. Maybe this is the Russians reverse trolling. If so, it is a nice move, keep stirring the pot.

Paveway IV's picture

We crossed posts, HowdyDoody. Are you contending that there was such an article on BBC? Think very carefully before you answer that - I know what changes by the minute on BBCs site without regards to crawlers or robots.txt