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Iran Embarrasses Obama, Takes Nuclear Samples With No Supervision
Now that the Pentagon seems to have come to terms with the fact that Russia and Iran are coordinating their military activities in Syria in support of their mutual ally Bashar al-Assad, the Obama administration has a problem.
As we said last month, “with the GOP unable to block the Iran nuclear deal in the Senate, should Iran's involvement in Syria become common knowledge, then Obama will be faced with the biggest diplomatic headache in his administration's history, namely the explanation of why he is scrambling to restore diplomatic connections with a regime that couldn't even wait for the Iran deal to be formally passed before it turned its back on its newest ‘best friend’ in the Oval Office, only to promptly side with the KGB agent who over the past two years has emerged as the biggest US enemy in three decades.”
This will of course be complicated immeasurably in the event Congress gets the idea that Iran is attempting to hide anything and indeed, GOP lawmakers were enraged when, late last month, AP reported that “Iran will be allowed to use its own inspectors to investigate a site it has been accused of using to develop nuclear arms, operating under a secret agreement with the U.N. agency that normally carries out such work.”
The site in question is Parchin which, amusingly, AP originally referred to as a "nuclear site” before getting a tap on the shoulder and correcting the article. “In fact, it's a military site where some believe nuclear work occurred,” the correction reads.
Yes, some do believe that and before the P5+1 deal can be implemented and crippling economic sanctions fully lifted, Tehran must first satisfy the IAEA’s worries about Parchin.
On Monday, in what will surely create a stir with Republicans and will likely be raised at the next raucous GOP primary debate, Iran and the IAEA said the first samples from the site were collected in the absence of international inspectors. Here’s AFP:
Iran said Monday it independently collected samples at a suspect military site where illicit nuclear work is alleged to have occurred and later handed them to the UN's absent inspectors.
The disclosure that international monitors were not physically present is likely to feed critics of a nuclear deal between Iran and world powers, who have poured scorn on measures used to check if Tehran's atomic programme is peaceful.
In a mark of the high stakes at play it drew a quick reaction from the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency, whose chief insisted that "the integrity of the sampling process and the authenticity of the samples" was not compromised.
The samples were taken under "established procedures", IAEA director general Yukiya Amano said, noting "significant progress" is being made in its long-running probe of whether Iran ever sought to develop a nuclear bomb.
The site at Parchin, east of the capital Tehran, has been at the centre of international scepticism of Iran's activities, specifically that as late as 2003 it carried out work there aimed at developing an atomic weapon.
Iran says accusations from Western intelligence agencies -- including that it conducted explosives tests at Parchin -- are groundless and based on malicious information provided by its enemies.
"It was done by Iranian experts, in the absence of IAEA inspectors," said Behrouz Kamalvandi, spokesman for Iran's Atomic Energy Organisation.
Needless to say, "it was done by Iranian experts" isn't a line that's likely to inspire much confidence with the deal's many detractors and neither is the IAEA's insistence that the "integrity" of the samples has been maintained.
Meanwhile, concerns linger over the whether construction activity at the site will serve to undermine inspectors' ability to determine if in fact Iran ever tried to develop a nuclear weapon. Here's more from Reuters:
IAEA Director-General Yukiya Amano said he and the head of the agency's Department of Safeguards, which carries out inspections, visited a building at the Parchin site on Sunday that the agency had previously only observed by satellite.
"Inside the building, we saw indications of recent renovation work," Amano said in a statement he read to reporters in Vienna, where his agency is based. "There was no equipment in the building."
But in a report to its Board of Governors last month, the IAEA said activities it had observed at a location within Parchin since 2012 could undermine its ability to verify what activity occurred there. Amano repeated this point on Monday.
In a confidential report to the board on Monday obtained by Reuters, Amano said the building to which the small extension had been added was not "the main building of interest".
And here's Reuters with an interesting bit of color on the samples taken at the site:
Amano said the environmental samples had been taken before his visit to Parchin on Sunday. He did not explain exactly how the samples were collected, but said "the Iranian side played a part in the sample-taking process by swiping samples".
The IAEA has said it has a legal obligation to keep details of the arrangement confidential, but insists it is technically sound and will ensure the samples are not compromised.
In the text of a statement to reporters, the head of safeguards at the IAEA, Tero Varjoranta, said one important element of sample-taking was that it is carried out "under redundant continuous surveillance", suggesting that the agency had carried out such surveillance when swipes were taken.
When he read his statement immediately after Amano spoke, however, Varjoranta omitted that phrase.
What's clear here is that the character and extent of Iran's nuclear ambitions will likely never be fully ascertained and it also seems very likely that the dynamic described above - wherein the West says one thing and Iran another with the details only leaking out incrementally by way of draft documents that find there way into the hands of the media - will persist in perpetuity.
Maintaining the narrative is critical for both sides, which helps to explain the apparent tug-of-war between competing accounts. For Iran, the Rouhani government cannot be seen to have adopted an overly concilliatory stance without drawing the ire of Iranians who the Ayatollah is famously adept at whipping into a frenzy. For the Obama administration, the Iran deal is a key part of the President's legacy and The White House can ill-afford to see it jeopardized by the perception of Iranian intransigence.
What all of this portends is that between Iran's involvement in Syria and the tenuous Parchin agreement with the IAEA, the cornerstone of Obama's foreign policy may ultimately blow up (figuratively speaking we hope) in America's face.
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Nothing Iran has done or said up until now has embarrassed Obama, so should this be any different?
Exactly. The guy...er, um...THE KING, has complete control over the narrative and his subjects.
Fucking delusional in other words.
Who are the 2 fags who keep down-voting these great comments?!!
baaah
Because he IS Muslim. You can see the 'tude in him. His entire ME Policy has been to strenghten hardliners.
I laugh at the people who got paranoid when somebody called Obama Muslim. The King has no clothes...and it ain't a pretty sight.
Remind me the Zio/Jew to Muslim ratio in his administration, would you?
There is no way on earth to embarrass a narcissistic sociopath.
http://www.wisegeekhealth.com/what-is-a-narcissistic-sociopath.htm
Infidels!
Maybe not but a perp walk and conviction for treason might have a chance to cause a blush.
His plan to "fundamentally change America" is indeed going as planned.
The Attack on the Nuclear Deal, the Israel Factor, and the Iran Peace Scare
http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2015/09/05/521329-the-attack-on-the-nucle...
Iran: Nigga please ! Back on up muthafucka. Deez here OUR samples. And dey goona be looked at by OUR muthafuckin' inspecters.
Obammy: "Yassah Massah"
.....or is that......"Well of course, your imminence. Peace be to the Prophet and the coming Mahdi "
Obama is a Jew, not a Muslim.
At least, if you look at the number of Jews and Ziopaths he has in his administration, that's the inescapable conclusion any objective person would come to.
Jews are 0.2% of the world's population. 0.2% of those are Zionists. But they rule the world.
That makes you a Jew too. Because you let them rule you.
Yep....Darwin was right. We really ARE evolving higher and higher with every epoch away from the apes.
0.2% of Jews are Zionists?
Anyone under the rule of a Jew is a Jew? So anyone under the rule of a Muslim is a Muslim, anyone under the rule of a Chinaman is a Chinaman, anyone under the rule of a Hottentot is a Hottentot.
Got it.
makes me a pussy
They certainly have wildly disproportionate influence
And you missed his point - Obama has appointed a great number of Jews, who are only 2.5% of the population. *appointments* - this is after having a damned Mossad agent as his first CoS. A man advised by Soros and Sunstein and Axelrod, but the only name that passes the lips of shitheads like you is Jarret.
Obama's appointments of Jews to Executive Branch positions rivals Clinton's "Kosher Kitchen". Jews - again - 2.5% of the population, apart from being #1 and #2 at both fed and treasury {and 3 jews in a row at the fed} are or recently headed
commerce
cbo
irs
fdic
office of the trade rep
office management budget
national economic council
SEC
CFTC
...and on and on.
and a disproportionate amount of ambassadorships and advisory positions
to whit:
‘Six Jews sitting in the White House discussing the Palestinian state’
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/sitting-discussing-palestinian
BUT YOU are not equipped to respond to this. You can cry antisemite over and over and hope no one notices, but you can't actually address how it is Obama is a secret Muslim yet appoints Jews way, way, way out of proportion to their numbers.
Similar in the UK, too. Corbyn took the most shit because the organized Jewish/Zio community - LESS THAN 1/2 OF 1% OF BRITAIN - thinks he isn't the best choice for Israel....
It's not your fault really - you're a fairly dumb guy, really, and I think you know it.
You're really only capable of black/white thinking and tend to rely on oft-regurgitated talking points, perhaps *actually* from a script.
And before you decide that Obama appointed all those Jews because, gosh, Jews are sooooo smart, you might look into how standard deviations work [there are a lot more non-Jewish white geniuses than Jewish geniuses ~ and no one is arguing the head of commerce is a genius}
No - this comes down to Jews being wealthy and donating about half the money to both parties
‘Commentary’ says amount of US political money coming from Jews is ‘staggering’
http://mondoweiss.net/2012/03/commentary-says-amount-of-us-political-mon...
Your software doesn't grasp the idea of objecting to disproportionate financial and media power held by a group famous for its ethnocentrism and ethnonepotism as well as their fucked up egoistic religion.........
merely speaking truth to Jewish power, for dumb fucks like you, can only be "hate."
That way, so rhetorically dismissed, you don't have to actually have a discussion about disproproportionate Jewish and Zionist power in the US, UK, Canada, France, and elsewhere...
and what that power is doing to the world.
Please, smug Marxist con men are not easily embarrassed. In fact they never are embarrassed.
Obammie got duped by a 14 yr old kid with Radio Shack kit clock.
No suprise that the Iranians can make a larger fool of him.
Obama has a "blind spot" when it comes to anything Muslim or black. Something called "the benefit of the doubt" is always extended to these groups...whitey, not so much.
Maybe Obama should call the 80's and ask if he can use their foreign policy.
Let them have nukes. Give nukes to all nations outside of NWO control. Its our only hope.
Please list for me the nations outside of NWO control. And what's your confidence level they will remain outside of that control in the future?
Please list for me the nations outside of NWO control.
ICELAND did jail many of their banksters when they regained power of their nation.
Kurplackistan.
Iran, Russia and their allies are outside of NWO control.
"And what's your confidence level they will remain outside of that control in the future?"
No confidence. But how are Iran's nukes more dangerous to the world than the nukes of Israel or the totally zionist-dominated USA, who is now even puting nukes to Germany???
Perhaps at least if there are more countries with nukes around, zionists will have little more fear from what they are doing! And if not, I prefer Armageddon (total end for everybody) to NWO (which would be slow death of humanity anyway). If too many nations have nukes, this zionist idea of a "limited nuclear war" become ridiculous. It will be the total end and the planet will be far better off without humans. Perhaps some more intelligent and less demented life could then evolve, instead of humans, which are more and more proving to be an utter failure of evolution.
Wow, what a sad and pathetic life you must live to have developed that mindset. Human's have their faults, there is no doubt about that, but I see great potential and a lot of beauty in humanity. Especially when I see the children and the promise they bring for a better future.
President Zippy can't be embaressed since he lives in his own little world where none of this is real.....
Agreed. In his world everything that looks like failure just serves as proof to himself that eventually he'll be proven right and called the greatest President in the history of the country.
In his head the crowds still cheer for him.
"In his head the crowds still cheer for him."
Nah, that's just the drugs lol.
His legacy.
He ends the war in Iraq
He ends the war in Afghanistan
He ends hostilities with Iran
brings "freedom" to Libya, Yemen, Syria, Egypt and Ukraine
A legacy of destabilization and world wide chaos. Something I'm sure the progressive history professors can readily correct.
His Legacy.
Defeated in Afghanistan.
Defeated in Iraq.
Allows Iran to become capable of destroying the West.
Failed to attack ISIS and radicals in Libya, Yemmen, and Syria,
Gave Crimea to the Russians without complaint.
Only US President to lose two wars.
Duh! Never trust Iranians!
Funny, the Iranians say the same about Americans for better reasons.
Some Iranian people are trustworthy, sincere and compassionate. I know.
Some North Americans are bloodthirsty, deluded maniacs. They can be trusted only to pursue what they percieve to be their own psychotic self-interst. I know this, too.
Knock me over with a feather boa.
Just wait until the day after they get their 100 billion back. You won't even get that much cooperation out of them. And I can't blame them- I wouldn't trust us any more than we trust them.
That cash is going to be funding a war zone near you. Mad Mullahs with relatively unlimited funding.
You can believe anything you want as long as you submit to Islam and pay the tax.
No, no, I'm quite sure its for the children. Seriously, it can fund job opportunities for children working in IED bomb and missile factories and the testing of explosive vests. Bullish I say.
Embarrass Obama? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Sorry, but nothing embarrasses that fool.
You gotta have a thick skin when you're married to a Wookie.
Parchin is a military site where it is believed by some that certain explosives, not themselves nuclear, but potentially used in thermonuclear weapons, were tested back in 2002 or so.
Meanwhile, since 2002 - no one knows how many nukes Israel has built, or how many they may have snuck into the United States in order to frame Iran or Hezbollah or whomever else stands in the way of Israeli lebensraum.
This is yet more smoke and mirrors about the same site which has been subject to inspections - not an atom of nuclear material has been diverted.
This is basically yet more neocon/warmongering propaganda to try to destroy the deal - which allows Iran to do what Iran was already legally entitled to do.
Yet Netanyahu who was involved in a smuggling ring -
http://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2012/07/03/netanyahu-worked-insi...
Who testified there was "no doubt at all" about Saddam working on nukes
Who continues to bulldoze only Palestinian homes while letting machine-guin wielding Jewish Supremacists burn down Arab homes and crops
Who continues to build more nukes and refuses inspectons
Netanyahu thanks US for blocking push for Middle East nuclear arms ban
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/23/netanyahu-thanks-us-blockin...
This asshole, and his Zionist 5th column is the one directing the conversation?
How fucking stupid does one have to be - so few years after Iraq - to accept uncritically anything Israel and its amen corner has to say?
Are Neocons an Existential Threat?
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/09/15/are-neocons-an-existential-threat/
Neocons are Zionist warmongering Jews - period.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/04/25/is-the-us-waging-israel-s-wars/
The Big Lie at the Heart of the Myth of the Creation of Israel
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/06/05/the-big-lie-at-the-heart-of-the-m...
your one sided diatribe says more about you than what you're trying to convey. not even a nice try.
What does it say about me, I wonder, guy who almost assuredly could not even summarize the allegations herein?
You're one of the site's regular hasbara trolls, no?
Go ahead - tell me something I don't know and back it up with a reliable, scientific source.
Well?
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"If true" turns out to be a major issue here, as upon closer examination the inflammatory headline, as it has been widely interpreted, appears to largely not be true.
In fact, the text of the article said something much more modest. It said that in a one-time set of inspections at one military facility known as Parchin, Iranians, rather than nuclear inspectors, would take "environmental samples" (such as soil samples). It said that nuclear inspectors would not be permitted to visit, and that Iran would not provide photos or videos of the site. But still, it was concerning.
"The story was the Iranians would take the samples under some kind of IAEA monitoring," Jeffrey Lewis, the arms control expert, told me. "The details of that monitoring were not provided, so it's hard to say how weird that is. Some IAEA officials say that it's not unusual to let a country physically take the samples if there's an IAEA inspector present."
The sourcing in the story, though, seemed to water it down a bit more. The report was not based not on an actual agreement, but rather on a copy of a draft agreement. The anonymous source who showed AP the document said there was a final version that is similar, but conspicuously refused to show AP the final version or go into specifics.
"The oldest Washington game is being played in Vienna," Lewis said. "And that is leaking what appears to be a prejudicial and one-sided account of a confidential document to a friendly reporter, and using that to advance a particular policy agenda."
http://www.vox.com/2015/8/20/9182185/ap-iran-inspections-parchin
So what you are saying is...that no matter what happens...a nuke in NYC or Pakistan or Israel or anywhere, and Jew did it. Any terror attack (of which there have been thousands attributed to radical Muslims) were ALL done by....JEWS.
It must be incredibly simple to live in your world. Like the true believer in any church who thinks that all crime, all bad deeds is the result of the devil (jew). Takes a real load off, to not have to question or reason.
This is yet more smoke and mirrors about the same site which has been subject to inspections - not an atom of nuclear material has been diverted.
This is basically yet more neocon/warmongering propaganda to try to destroy the deal - which allows Iran to do what Iran was already legally entitled to do.
The clueless nutjob who posted this must be one of Obammie's advisors.
Did some Sheik train you as a young boy?
Next up: new criminal justice system will be based on the honor system
This is a guy who hung out in bathhouses in Chicago. You think this embarrasses him.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/soft-coup-in-iran-western-allies-coerce-iran-into-capitulating-its-nuclear-program/5470097
" . . . in what will surely create a stir with Republicans and will likely be raised at the next raucous GOP primary debate . . . "
Done pissed off dem War Party hawks!
USA!
USA!
Israel used stolen US Plutonium to start its nuclear weapons program. The Rosenbergs gave the USSR our nuclear secrets. That was the Old America, they were executed. Spy Jonathan Pollard who spied for Israel and cost CIA assets their lives is going free later this year.
Israel has over 400 nuclear missiles. They have Dolphin submarines GIVEN FREELY to them by Germany's Occupation Government that are armed with nuclear cruise missiles.
"What is Israel to do?...Israel has been building nuclear weapons for years...What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a nuclear winter?...The ultimate justice?" Professor David Perlmutter - The Los Angeles Times April 7, 2002
Iran has not started any wars, it is just the Jewish lobby that controls the US's foreign policy.
"I've never seen a President — I don't care who he is — stand up to them. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn't writing anything down. If the American people understood what a grip these people have got on our government, they would RISE UP IN ARMS. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea what goes on."
Thomas H. Moorer (1912 - 2004) Admiral, US Navy & Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff during interview on 24 August 1983
You mean to tell me the Islamic Republic of Iran and Ayatollah Khamenei are already breaking the agreement and can't be trusted?
The next thing you'll try to tell me is that Kim Jong-un can't be trusted either
Cute.
and you trust the Israelis, right?
Because Jews good, Muslims bad?
https://consortiumnews.com/2014/10/02/how-israel-out-foxed-us-presidents-3/
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/11/23/israel-americas-biggest-fr...
http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2015/09/14/521545burned-alive-by-israelis/
Settlers gawk as Palestinian woman lies dying at checkpoint
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/09/settlers-palestinian-dying-checkpoint
How Israel Covers Up Its Racial Holy War
http://www.alternet.org/world/how-israel-covers-its-ugly-racial-holy-war
stop cherry picking stuff you inept fool. only the dumb can't see through your drivel.
It's not going to stop until it's banned ... again ... clearly its been banned before and just keeps coming back like a stale fart to plow over the same tired boring blah blah turf. A retard with a mission to warn zh, whether it likes, or needs it, or not, until we all die of boredom from the repeated attacks by ... repeated repeats. Probably Francis again.
Evidence of Israeli lying, spying, warcrimes, and warmongering is "boring"?
Or is it you're just a brain dead Zio troll who isn't any good at *arguing* so your job is to simply say "Hitler Nazis Holocaust" louder and louder whenever someone smarter and bigger-dicked than you presents facts you don't like or fucks your mom's pretty ass?
Be specific - you complain about cherry-picking, which isn't really appropriate.
If I say "Jim is athief" and supply evidence that Jim stole shit - it isn't "cherry picking" because I didn't supply you with evidence of the things he did not steal.
In other words - you just whined about what I said - and right out of the hasbara handbook - you made ZERO substantive argument.
So what, specifically, is wrong or inaccurate in the links provided?
And no - criticizing Israel, or Jews, is not, without more, anti-Semitism, although many of Israel's paid trolls like to make it seem as though Israel/Jews are above criticism.
They aren't.
"stop cherry picking stuff you inept fool. only the dumb can't see through your drivel."
What is "drivel"?
Or - do you even know?
I bet you just see it as your duty to supply some red herring.
so its not that Israel Does NOT commit war crimes on purpose and lie about who started things... THE PERSON OUTING ISRAEL MUST BE HASTILY DISMISSED AS AN "ANTI-SEMITE" without reference, at all, to the merits.
Tacit, of course, in this kind of Ziotrolling is both that Israel never does anything wrong and anyone criticzing Israel merely "hates Jews"
ZZZ.... that sort of shit probably works over at Jonestown and Drudge, but you gotta work a little harder here.
"stop cherry picking stuff you inept fool. only the dumb can't see through your drivel."
What is drivel - what evidence do you have {which won't, of course, be all from Debkafile and The Weekly Standard, right?}
I never liked Jim he stole shit.
He is simply dreaming of the day when pedophilia and goat screwing are accepted practice under Sharia.
Since INDELICATE and ELEMENT are both dedicated spokesmen representing oposite ends of the most important arguement in the world today, their respective links and supporting evidence deserve the most serious consideration.
If, after serious consideration, anyone would consider ELEMENT'S point of view as anything but pure BULLSHIT best put down the koolaid glass.
Yes, it simply HAS to be the JEWS fault.
Seeing as how they must be smarter than the rest of us, as they seem to always be winning, what are we to do? Kill them all? Hitler tried that and its didn't work out well and the Jews became only stronger.
So apparently they have won and those "deniers" who still question a myriad of competing factors are koolaid drinking dunces.
If only Tyler could be told, he could stop with all of this posting. All these different issues, problems, injustices, when all he need say is JEWS BAD!
Just post that every day, repeat....JEWS BAD!
Everything else is pointless koolaid crap. Government, money, debt, war, MIC, poor mistreated Muslims,....JEWS BAD!
See how easy that is. I appreciate it as now I can stop worrying, reading, posting or even giving a small fuck, because JEWS BAD! and they have already won!
Ask any Native American how well America upholds its treaty obligations
Ask those Native Americans how they would like to go back to living in the tee pee and not having the use of a wheel? They were original slavers, just like the Mohammedens.
I bet you that the Fox/Drudge neocon-lite types don't actually know what happened.
The "swiping" would be for non-nuclear explosives - triggers, essentially, from over 12 years ago.
Parchin doesn't have centrifuges or nuclear material
And if you actually bother to read one of the links to the reuters story
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/21/us-iran-nuclear-iaea-idUSKCN0R...
you read
"Authentication by the agency of the samples was achieved through use of an established verification process. The process was carried out under our responsibility and monitoring." The samples have been brought back to Vienna for analysis, he added.
At issue is whether Iranian scientists provided the swiped samples without any kind of IAEA supervision... to test for the presence of explosives from 12 or more years ago.
"In the text of a statement to reporters, the head of safeguards at the IAEA, Tero Varjoranta, said one important element of sample-taking was that it is carried out "under redundant continuous surveillance", suggesting that the agency had carried out such surveillance when swipes were taken.
When he read his statement immediately after Amano spoke, however, Varjoranta omitted that phrase."
So this is complicated, but complicated is hard, so its easiest to just summarize the issue incorrectly, which is what the neocons and people who work for the AP are counting on.
Iran has not been and is not intending to build a nuclear arsenal; but who can admit that fact – Obama, Clinton, Kerry?
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2015/09/reckless-hypocrisy-the-folly-of-self-ri...
Israel main obstacle to nuke-free Middle East: Iran
http://presstv.com/Detail/2015/09/18/429677/Iran-Israel-IAEA-NPT-Reza-Na...
http://www.unz.com/article/israels-agent-of-influence/
As long as Israel builds nukes then let Iran have the right to self defence. It is really none of our fucking business if Iran builds nukes. If Iran nukes a few folks then they can expect the same, it is called MAD. Fuck'em, I hope the get what they want, peace, prosperity and security. Israel is the terrorist state that should be reigned in after we reign in our own terrorist government. Iran is nothing but a BS distraction from the criminal syndicates who run the show that want us to live in fear, being good American farmed tax stock.
How Neocons Destabilized Europe
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2015/09/how-neocons-destabilized-europe/
I guess you missed the memo about how radical fundamentalist Muslims see it as their highest honor to die for Allah, that the destruction of life and civilization is the end game for them. I would say it is a little different for people who fear for their lives having advanced weapons and those who want to end it all. I guess you have no problem with your suicidal brother buying a gun....I mean it's his right!
Tell you what. When the Muslim religious leaders can publicly state that they accept the right of ANY state to exist and that chants of "death to America" are no longer tolerated, then I will consider nukes their right. Its really not that tough.
Who's fault is it that Iran fell in to a theocracy? When was the last time Iran went on a war of aggression? Who installed and supported Saddam? Who supported Saddam in his attack and war on Iran? When we could nuke anyone in the world 10 times over why are you worried about some loud mouth spewing anti-American sentiment for local political support? How many Christians are working to bring on the 'end times'? How many Christians are wanting a direct war against the Muslims? How many Christians espouse hate towards Iran and wish it nuke'd? Hypocrisy and shallow minded is not working here.
Myths and Facts About The Landmark Iran Deal
http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/09/08/myths-and-facts-surrounding-...
Jewish Lobby Stops Iran’s Help on Syria
http://rinf.com/alt-news/newswire/israel-lobby-stops-irans-help-on-syria/
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John McCain 'overjoyed' Israel has nuclear weapons
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/john-mccain-overjoyed-israel-has-nucle...
"ran's aggressive stance? Is McCain on drugs?!?
Since the 1979 Iranian revolution and the downfall of the US Puppet Ruler the Shah, Iran has been an Islamic state. In that interval of time, 1979 to the present, Iran has not invaded anyone. Not once. In fact Iran has not launched a war of aggression against another nation in 200 years. War is not their nature. People of all religions live in peace in Iran, even Jews, who find life so comfortable in Iran they refused an offer by the government of Israel to emigrate!
In the same period of time, Israel, a self-declared Jewish state, attacked Iraq in 1981, bombing the power station at Osirik, claiming it was a clandestine weapons factory. Subsequent examination of the ruins following the 2003 invasion proved Israel had lied. In 1982, Israel invaded Lebanon. This led to the Massacres at Sabra and Shatilla. In February 2003 Israel staged incursions into Gaza and Nablus. In September 2007 Israel bombed Syria, again insisting they were destroying a clandestine weapons laboratory. Again there was no evidence to support Israel's claims. In 2006, Israel attacked Lebanon, killing 1200, mostly civilians, several UN observers, and littering the landscape with land mines on their way out. In February 2008 Israel again raided Gaza, killing over 100. HAMAS agreed to a cease fire and kept it for 6 months until November 4, when Israel again attacked without warning, killing 6 HAMAS members, and launching operation CAST LEAD. 1300 Gazans, mostly civilians, were killed. Israel lost 13 soldiers. Violations of international law included the use of White Phosphorus incendiary bombs against civilians and non-military targets. The United Nations investigated, but Israel refused to cooperate. In May 2010, Israel attacked an international aid flotilla bringing food and medical supplies to Gaza in international waters. 9 people were murdered including an American from New York. In June 2014, citing as their excuse the murder of three teenagers in the West Bank (which even the West Bank police said were not linked to HAMAS), Israel launched operation PROTECTIVE EDGE, bombing Gaza into rubble, again refusing to cooperate with UN investigators, and ultimately refusing to keep to the terms of the cease fire.
In the same period of time, the United States, officially a secular nation but predominantly Christian, attacked El Salvador (1980), Libya (1981), Sinai (1982), Lebanon (1982 1983), Egypt (1983), Grenada (1983), Honduras (1983), Chad (1983), Persian Gulf (1984), Libya (1986) , Bolivia (1986), Iran (1987), Persian Gulf (1987), Kuwait (1987), Iran (1988), Honduras (1988), Panama (1988), Libya (1989), Panama (1989), Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru (1989), Philippines (1989), Panama (1989-1990), Liberia (1990), Saudi Arabia (1990), Iraq (1991), Zaire (1991), Sierra Leone (1992), Somalia (1992), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1993 to present), Macedonia (1993), Haiti (1994), Macedonia (1994), Bosnia (1995), Liberia (1996), Central African Republic (1996), Albania (1997), Congo/Gabon (1997), Sierra Leon (1997), Cambodia (1997), Iraq (1998), Guinea/Bissau (1998), Kenya/Tanzania (1998 to 1999), Afghanistan/Sudan (1998), Liberia (1998), East Timor (1999), Serbia (1999), Sierra Leon (2000), Yemen (2000), East Timor (2000), Afghanistan (2001 to present), Yemen (2002), Philippines (2002) , Cote d'Ivoire (2002), Iraq (2003 to present), Liberia (2003), Georgia/Djibouti (2003), Haiti (2004), Georgia/Djibouti/Kenya/Ethiopia/Yemen/Eritrea War on Terror (2004), Pakistan drone attacks (2004 to present), Somalia (2007), South Ossetia/Georgia (2008), Syria (2008), Yemen (2009 and 2015), Haiti (2010), Libya (2011), Syria (2011), Ukraine (2014), Iraq (2015), etc. etc. etc. etc.
Who is being aggressive here?"
- Mike Rivero
Hey, Iran is going to do what Iran is going to do, get used to it....Bibi may be shitting bricks but THAT certainly will NOT change anything. Sometimes, ya gotta just admit, you have NO control over a situation...
why fake evidence if you are preparing for war because you have evidence that someone might decide to one day build a nuke to deter you from using your hundreds of nukes?
AP, George Jahn, and the Fake Diagram for Iran’s Bomb
http://original.antiwar.com/sahimi/2012/11/29/ap-george-jahn-and-the-fak...
IAEA: AP’s Claims on Iran ‘Self-Inspection’ False
http://news.antiwar.com/2015/08/20/iaea-aps-claims-on-iran-self-inspecti...
Israel Seen Behind AP’s Iran ‘Nuclear Graph’ Hoax
http://news.antiwar.com/2012/12/10/israel-seen-behind-aps-iran-nuclear-g...
“Apparently, AP stands for Absurd Propaganda.” Will we never learn?
http://investmentwatchblog.com/apparently-ap-stands-for-absurd-propagand...
Torpedoing The Deal: US Media Promotes Israel Lobby’s Campaign Against Iran Deal
http://www.mintpressnews.com/torpedoing-the-deal-us-media-promotes-israe...
Suspicions Persist about Iranian “Laptop of Death”
http://lobelog.com/suspicions-persist-about-iranian-laptop-of-death/
Surprise Surprise: “Laptop of Death” a Possible Forgery
http://shadowproof.com/2008/11/10/surprise-surprise-laptop-of-death-a-po...
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When someone keeps saying that someone else is "months away" from having a nuke - how many years need to go by before you can say he's a liar?
https://theintercept.com/2015/03/02/brief-history-netanyahu-crying-wolf-...
Benjamin Netanyahu and Iran’s Nonexistent Nuclear Weapon: The Boy Who Cried Wolf
http://www.globalresearch.ca/benjamin-netanyahu-and-irans-nonexistent-nu...
A boy who is supposed to help bring about the 3rd temple and Jewish hegemony-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFr4C2BPLeM
And who stole American nuclear tech along with a bunch of Hollywood Jews who were never prosecuted...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/israeli-prime-minister-netanyahu-linked-to-...
http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/netanyahu-implicated-in-nuclear-smuggling-...
- he wouldn't LIE would he?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpQdg4D78Jc
"Takes Nuclear Samples With No Supervision"
This is both not clear from the current reporting, and this is also misleading.
It's not clear that Iranian staff took samples without any kind of IAEA supervision - as noted above the IAEA itself seems to refute this
They are also not "nuclear samples" - in fact the samples are at a military site ordinarily outside the ambit of a nuclear inspection regime, but Israel cried and shit its pants [while refusing inspections and getting Uncle Sucker to veto efforts at a nuke free middle east - that's being self-chosen for you, I guess]... the sample swipes would be to test for a certain kind of explosive which was allegedly used 12 years ago... basically nuclear triggers...
Remember that Netanyahu, who has hundreds of nukes, and routinely engages in war crimes while ignoring UN resolutions ~ who refuses to stop settlement building or to stop Jewish terrorists who busy themselves with burning down churches and schools in the occupied West Bank - was in fact likely involved in a nuclear smuggling ring.
He lied when he testified about Iraq, and he has lied over and over about Iran seeking "break out capacity"
The Israeli press is picking up Grant Smith’s revelation from FBI documents that Benjamin Netanyahu was part of an Israeli smuggling ring that spirited nuclear triggers out of the U.S. in the 80s and 90s.
Arutz Sheva, the nationalist Israeli press:
“Declassified FBI documents from a 1985-2002 investigation implicate Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu in an initiative to illegally purchaseUnited States nuclear technology for Israel’s nuclear program.
Netanyahu was allegedly helped by Arnon Milchan, a Hollywood producer with ties to Israeli prime ministers and U.S. presidents.”
The original story was broken by Grant Smith at antiwar.com, “Netanyahu worked inside nuclear smuggling ring”:
“On June 27, 2012, the FBI partially declassified and released seven additional pages [.pdf] from a 1985–2002 investigation into how a network of front companies connected to the Israeli Ministry of Defense illegally smuggled nuclear triggers out of the U.S.* The newly released FBI files detail how Richard Kelly Smyth — who was convicted of running a U.S. front company — met with Benjamin Netanyahu in Israel during the smuggling operation. At that time, Netanyahu worked at the Israeli node of the smuggling network, Heli Trading Company. Netanyahu, who currently serves as Israel’s prime minister, recently issued a gag order that the smuggling network’s unindicted ringleader refrain from discussing “Project Pinto.””
http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/netanyahu-implicated-in-nuclear-smuggling-...
http://investmentwatchblog.com/netanyahu-implicated-in-nuclear-smuggling...
FBI investigates MILCO nuclear trigger smuggling to Israel
http://www.irmep.org/ila/krytons/
You trust Netanyahu?
Then you're a fucking imbecile.
WTF Tylers?!? Have you simply become a mouthpiece for Tel Aviv? It increasingly looks that way ..
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/09/22/killing-the-prophets/
I think you guys truly, I mean truly DO NOT understand Mossad. Actually the more power the PERSIANS acquire, the better for the entire ME. The US/UK/NATO need not apply ..
This is a little technical - but the author knows her shit, and also bends over backwards to be objective {perhaps she should have reviewed US .mil and spook assessments and 20 + years of Israeli crying wolf and dirty tricks - but....
if you really want to drill down - give this a read:
How the AP Got the Iran Inspections Story Wrong
http://warontherocks.com/2015/08/how-the-ap-got-the-iran-inspections-sto...
3 junks from people who couldn't be bothered reading this link - typical.... lol. Go back to Drudge you stupid fucks.
Not one of you has the brains to read that article anyway.
So we have a convoluted methodology that is supposed to ensure a verifiable chain of custody....yet still, the inspectors are not allowed on site. I simply ask you, what kind of deal is this? What exactly are we or the rest of the world getting from this? When there is EVERY attempt to prevent anyone from inspecting their sites personally, do you not question WHY? America and Europe are the ones in the strong position. IRAN HAS NOTHING WE NEED. WE HAVE EVERYTHING THEY NEED, but it is the west, America that is told to TRUST. IRAN is doing NOTHING but the barest of minimums KNOWING that OBAMA will do ANYTHING to get this deal through. It is for his LEGACY and he will sell his African grandmother to slavers to get it. This deal sucks and gives America NOTHING but doubt. Just because YOU will side with anyone who stands against Israel, it makes you as blind and stupid as you claim all those who doubt you are. It should concern you and anyone else that ANY country can be a threat given the opportunity, and given our long and tortured past in the ME, we are being suicidally stupid to ignore the threats that people WHO YOU BELIEVE HAVE BEEN GRIEVOUSLY HARMED BY US can potentially put to us. Can you not guard from Radical Muslims equally as Israel? Must you side with one over the other when they can both be a threat?
Commiebama hands nukes to enemies of the Western way of life. Clueless/bought Congress/media go along.
No surprises.
Pathetic death wish of the Western public as long as they can still get their bread and circuses.
Hey, they can't blow anything up for ten years or we'll know they are cheating.
A Prized Iran-Nuke Myth Unraveling
September 23, 2015
Once an Official Washington “group think” gets going it’s very hard to stop because the mainstream U.S. media will adjust the narrative so as not to debunk what all the Important People “know” to be true, such as shoring up a beloved Iran nuclear myth that is starting to fall apart, as Gareth Porter notes.
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/09/23/a-prized-iran-nuke-myth-unraveling/
For well over three years, heavy doses of propaganda have created a myth about a purported steel cylinder for testing explosives located on a site at Iran’s Parchin military testing reservation. According to that storyline, Iran was refusing to allow the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to inspect the site while it sought to hide its past nuclear weapons-related work.
Now Iran has agreed to allow the IAEA to visit the site at Parchin and environmental samples have already been collected at the site. However, the politically charged tale of the bomb test chamber of Parchin is beginning to unravel. IAEA director general Yukiya Amano entered the building in which the explosives chamber had supposedly been located on Monday and announced afterward that he found “no equipment” in the building.
That is surely a major story, in light of how much has been made of the alleged presence of the chamber at that location. But you may have missed that news, unless you happened to read the story by Jonathan Tirone of Bloomberg Business News, who was the only journalist for a significant news outlet who chose to lead with the story in his coverage of Amano’s Monday visit.
The rest of the news media buried that fact far down in their stories, focusing almost entirely on the fact that the Iranians have been allowed to physically gather environmental samples at the site under the gaze of IAEA technicians rather than IAEA inspectors carrying out that function.
The main storyline associated with the purported bomb cylinder since early 2012 has been that Iran has been removing evidence from the site for years in anticipation of an eventual IAEA inspection in order to hide the evidence of past experiments using the purported chamber. But the full story of that mysterious chamber makes it clear that it was highly dubious from the start.
The first description of an explosive chamber at Parchin appeared in an IAEA report published in early November 2011. But less than two weeks after the story of the cylinder was reported in the media, Associated Press reporter George Jahn published a report that an official of an unidentified state had “cited intelligence from his home country, saying it appears that Iran is trying to cover its tracks by sanitizing the site and removing any evidence of nuclear research and development.”
The official provided an “intelligence summary” from which Jahn quoted: “Freight trucks, special haulage vehicles and cranes were seen entering and leaving” the site on Nov. 4-5, 2011, it said, and “some equipment and dangerous materials were removed from the site.”
Disputed intelligence
The purpose of that language was clearly to suggest that Iran had actually removed the cylinder and the nuclear materials that it had been testing. If true, it would have been very incriminating evidence of Iran’s nuclear deception. But there was a problem with that claim. Officials of two other IAEA member states that were obviously following the aerial photography of the Parchin site closely denied that the story being peddled to Jahn by the unnamed state was true.
It was true that there was more activity than normal at the site on those days, they told Jahn, but nothing resembling the activities claimed by the unidentified state’s “intelligence summary.” One of those two countries denying the story was clearly the United States. Pentagon spokesman Captain John Kirby told Jahn he had “seen nothing to indicate that those concerns are warranted.”
The episode of the AP story begs the obvious question: Why was the state that could not be named so intent on planting a false story of Iranian removal of the purported cylinder? The obvious purpose of such a story would be to prepare government and public opinion for a possible IAEA visit to the site in the future, and the subsequent discovery that there was nothing incriminating at the site.
That, in turn, indicates that the state in question was the same one that had provided the original story of the explosive cylinder to the IAEA and that it already knew that no cylinder would be found there because the original story had been a fabrication.
Israeli-supplied Documents
The IAEA member state that had provided the information about a purported bomb cylinder was never identified by the IAEA. But IAEA director-general Mohamed El Baradei asserts in his memoirs that in the summer of 2009 Israel turned over to the IAEA a number of intelligence documents purporting to show that Iran had carried out nuclear weapons work “until at least 2007,” most of which consisted of purported Iranian official documents whose authenticity had been questioned by some of the agency’s technical experts.
El Baradei refused to bow to diplomatic pressures from Israel’s allies, coordinated by the head of Israel’s Atomic Energy Commission, to publish a compendium of those documents, including the claim in an intelligence report of the Parchin explosives cylinder. The Israelis and the Obama administration had to wait until Amano succeeded El Baradei and agreed to do exactly that.
The episode of the AP story isn’t the only evidence that the unidentified state had concocted an intelligence document on Parchin that was a complete falsehood. In August 2012, an IAEA report stated that the agency had acquired the satellite imagery available on the Parchin site for the entire period from February 2005 to January 2012.
The report revealed that the imagery showed “virtually no activity at or near the building housing the containment vessel” during that entire period. The imagery clearly suggested that Iran had not been using the site for any sensitive activities, much less the activities suggested by the IAEA in its report, during the seven years, nor had they engaged in any cleanup of the site.
And an earlier episode sheds further light on the issue. In 2004, John Bolton, then President George W. Bush’s Iran policymaker, leaked satellite imagery of sites at Parchin that had features someone believed might be high explosives testing facilities.
After a few months of bullying by Bolton, the IAEA asked to visit Parchin. Iran not only agreed to an inspection in February 2005 but allowed the IAEA to choose any five sites in any one of the four Parchin quadrants – after the inspection team’s arrival – and take environmental samples anywhere at the sites. And in November 2005, after El Baradei requested a second inspection, Iran again gave the IAEA the choice of five more sites at which to take samples.
The significance of those two 2005 IAEA inspections is not merely that the environmental samples all came back negative. More important, Iran would never have allowed the IAEA to choose to take environmental samples anywhere it chose at Parchin if it had carried out nuclear-weapons related experiments as claimed later by the unidentified state.
Beginning in spring 2012 and continuing right up to the Vienna round of Iran nuclear negotiations last summer, the IAEA, Western diplomats and David Albright of the Institute for Science and International Security generated many dozens of stories about Iran’s “stonewalling” the IAEA on Parchin while it sought to remove evidence of its purported nuclear-related testing at the site. Those stories invariably used the term “sanitizing” – the same word the Israeli official used in passing on the false story to AP.
Those stories were just as dishonest as the original Israeli story because the IAEA and Western diplomats assigned to it know very well that there is no way to remove all traces of nuclear material from a site. In 2013, Stephan Vogt, the head of the IAEA’s environmental sample laboratory, declared in a 2013 interview: “You cannot get rid of them by cleaning, you cannot dilute them to the extent that we will not be able to pick them up.”
Strangely, however, even after that interview was published, the Parchin stories continued as if Vogt had not revealed the impossibility of “sanitizing” a site that had held nuclear material.
We are now only a few weeks away from the release of the environmental sampling results at Parchin. It will be amusing to this writer to see how the governments and news media who pushed the Parchin myth manage that story.
[This article first appeared at Middle East Eye, http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/parchin-myth-begins-unravel-1441311...
He's not embarrased. He's all for it.
Iran is free do to anything on its soil. Anyone who dictates is an enemy.