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Chinese Military Personnel, "Aerial Assets" Allegedly En Route To Syria
On Wednesday evening, we suggested that Vladimir Putin’s explicit promise to go ahead with airstrikes against terrorist targets in Syria with or without the help of the US effectively marks the end of Washington’s years-old effort to destabilize and ultimately remove the Assad regime.
The Kremlin's pronouncement came just a day after the mainstream media began reporting that Moscow and Tehran are coordinating their efforts on the ground (something which should come as no surprise to anyone) meaning any Sunni extremists and/or CIA-trained “freedom fighters” intent on seizing control of the country will now need to go through Russia and Iran, with the latter now seemingly willing to make the badly kept secret of its military support for Assad no secret at all.
Of course the thing about irreparably bad situations is that although they cannot, by definition, get better, they can always get worse and for the US in Syria, that would mean China showing up. Beijing has made a concerted effort this year to project the growing power and influence of the PLA navy. That effort has so far involved an unprecedented land reclamation effort in the Spratlys, a “rescue” operation in the Yemeni port of Aden, and a surprise appearance off the coast of Alaska.
(a Chinese soldier in Yemen on March 29)
Given that, and given what we know about Beijing’s support for Moscow and Tehran, the following from pro-Assad Al-Masdar news shouldn’t come as a complete surprise:
The recent arrival of the Russian Marines and Air Force to the Syrian port-city of Tartous has generated a significant amount of interest around the world, as the possibility of Russia’s direct military intervention becomes the focal point of the war on ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham).
Should the Russians begin military operations in Syria, what role with the U.S. led “Anti-ISIS Coalition” play in combatting the terrorist group? Will they coordinate with one another? Will they avoid one another?
Russia seems poised to take a similar approach to the U.S. led Coalition; however, they are not seeking the assistance of the neighboring Arab countries to combat the terrorist group.
Instead, the Russians appear to have a contingency that involves another world power that was absent from the U.S. led Anti-ISIS Coalition: China.
On Tuesday morning, a Chinese naval vessel reportedly traveled through Egypt’s Suez Canal to enter the Mediterranean Sea; its destination was not confirmed.
However, according to a senior officer in the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) that is stationed inside the Syrian coastal city of Latakia, Chinese military personnel and aerial assets are scheduled to arrive in the coming weeks (6 weeks) to the port-city of Tartous – he could not provide anymore detail.
This comes two years after China warned that turmoil in Syria could have negative implications for the global economy and 18 months after Beijing, along with Moscow, used their security council vetoes to undercut a UN resolution calling for the crisis in Syria to be referred to the Hague. Here's what China had to say at the May 22, 2014 meeting:
Mr. Wang Min (China) (spoke in Chinese): For over three years, the escalation of the conflict in Syria has inflicted deep suffering on the Syrian people and posed a serious challenge to the countries of the region and the international community. China has always maintained that all parties in Syria should respect human rights and international humanitarian law and prevent innocent people from being harmed during the conflict. China is firmly opposed to all violations of international humanitarian law or serious violations of human rights committed by all parties to the conflict in Syria. However, with regard to draft resolution S/2014/348, on which the Council voted earlier, China has some serious reservations. First, China believes that any action to seek recourse to the International Criminal Court (ICC) to prosecute the perpetrators of serious violations should be conducted on the basis of respect for State judicial sovereignty and the principle of complementarity. China is not a State party to the Rome Statute. China always has reservations concerning the referral by the Security Council of particular country situations to the ICC. This is our principled position.
Secondly, efforts to seek a political settlement to the question of Syria are encountering difficulties. The international community must shore up its confidence, remain patient and be steadfastly committed to the overall direction of the political settlement. What is most urgently needed now is to urge the Government of Syria and the opposition to immediately implement a ceasefire and put an end to the violence in order to start a third round of negotiations in Geneva so as to advance the political process and embark on a political transition. In the current circumstances, to forcibly refer the situation in Syria to the ICC is not conducive either to building trust among all parties in Syria or to an early resumption of the negotiations in Geneva. It will only jeopardize the efforts made by the international community to push for a political settlement.
Thirdly, for some time now, the Security Council has maintained unity and coordination on the question of Syria, thanks to efforts by Council members, including China, to accommodate the major concerns of all parties. At a time when seriously diverging views exist among the parties concerning the draft resolution, we believe that the Council should continue holding consultations, rather than forcing a vote on the draft resolution, in order to avoid undermining Council unity or obstructing coordination and cooperation on questions such as Syria and other major serious issues. Regrettably, China’s approach has not been taken on board; China therefore voted against the draft resolution.
Yes, "regrettably China's approach has not been taken on board" and so, more than a year later that approach might have just shifted to a strategy that involves direct military intervention on behalf of Assad.
For now, this is still in the realm of speculation as the story cited above certainly falls short of providing anything in the way of conclusive evidence for a claim that the Chinese military is set to intervene directly. That said, the last several weeks have proven that the situation in Syria is remarkably fluid and what seems far-fetched one day has the potential to become reality the next, which is why we contend that Xi Jinping very well may decide that Raqqa is as good a place as any to test out some of the equipment that was on full display in Beijing earlier this month.
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Obama's foreign policy is going spledidly well. Tip of the hat to the half white and black cheif.
The Russian and the Chinese will vaporize ISIS.
Here's another toy coming to Syria: This Russian tank-mounted rocket launcher can incinerate eight city blocks. All the oxygen in the near vicinity is also consumed, creating a partial vacuum.
http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150915/1027024305/flamethrower-magazine-...
Send in John McCain and John Kerry. They'll fix this mess.
95,000 Russian troops will be in Syria soon, together with another 300,000 Chinese troops.
After Syria, they will eradicate ISIS from Iraq, then onto Saudi Arabia. The terrorist problem will be solved once and for all.
Who needs "Hunger Games" when in the real world we have the "Middle East".
I forget who predicted this a few days back but, my hat is off to you sir.
Hey Noodleman..
How’s that Fascist Neocon shtick working out for you now?
At least you xan enjoy a nice Chinese noodle lunch on your next trip over there.
And you can hand out Fortune Cookies to the Russian and Chicom troops when walking around.
The Russian and Chinese strategy against terror is simple, vaporize every place where enemy fire came from. Including entire city blocks.
The Chinese will reconstruct the cities and provide tens of millions of Chinese to settle them.
Permanent stability of the Middle East is therefore achieved.
Checkmate, Western devils.
Maybe this was what China was talking about when it announced troop "reductions" of 300,000.
Can't wait to see the next acronym that will threaten world terror once ISIS is gone. Maybe we should have a contest.
MyRA
I just signed in to upvote you on the MyRA dig. It's not only funny but likely accurate of what is to come.
If the US feels like they can just waltz into any country and depose of their ruler, don't be suprised when others call you on it.
The rumble in the sand...the quadfuckta...
USSA/ZATO Vs DRAGON + BEAR....
I think some white ass is going to get a whuppin'...
Dragon and Bear make tough citizens tougher for war...
In the west you take pudgy patsies and now gangsters/criminals/gender confused and try to beat them into shape in 8 weeks of bootcamp and send them off to a purposeless war, raging on Slayer and popping pills.
Watch....
No white ass is going to get a whuppin' The Russians and Chinese fast fry ISIS ass while the CIA/Mossad/AlQueda will deny any connection to this USSA foreign policy clustefuck. Afterwards the USSA and stooges will create a new muslim frankenstein (or Djiinn) to terrorise the MENA and blame it on the Russians and Chinese. This is how a psychopathic .gov organization works.
Nothing will change until the USSA minions gets an ass thumping that they will never forget.
Russia, China, and Syria are about to DEAL with ISIS. Putin will soon meet with Obama to call the bluff of the US Military Industrial Complex who armed ISIS and offer to partner to deal with the Islamic Extremists.
Given that the US has not-so-secretely empowered ISIS to fight their proxy war in Syria, do not expect any partnership. Expect the propaganda machine to ramp up even more with regard to headlines like "Pentagon EXTREMELY concerned about military build up in Syria".
Here's the rub. The US and it's allies (Israel and Saudi Arabia - if you can call the Saudi's allies) have been building up military forces for some time. They have killed THOUSANDS with regard to civilians including women, children and journalists. And the worst part - the US is violating the nuclear non-proliferation treaty by sending 20 nukes to Germany.
So when you see all of these propaganda headlines regarding the Eastern powers dealing with ISIS, remember who the real enemy is Catness.
Russia's heading into another Afghanistan and they'll be backed up by a bunch of Made in China aircraft...
lmfao! What could go right?
Sure, the situations are exactly the same so they must repeat themselves, LOL>
Problem with Afghanistan is that the CIA wanted to control the opium production and trade, and the USSR did not.
We need to send some of our best, "don't ask, don't tell" folks over there to fix this mess.
nice gay bash. dare you to tell one of them face to face. i didn't think so.
this is directed to publicus and manthong. i kind of took your two comments and mashed them. it came up that the terrorists are not gone until china and russia destroy the project for a new american century and all their "folks". http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&I...
maybe a really elite russian female team could take out skull and bones, just to be sure.
Does anyone remember that PC game that came out a few years back. The story was that and alliance of Russia and China had moved into the Middle East to secure oil resources and you were part of a U.S. force that was fighting from Saudi Arabia and then pushing all the way to Moscow to smash the "evil Russians".
It's almost like this whole thing has been planned out.
Anyone other than me suspect that a Chinese entry into the Syrian conflict with ISIS is designed to create multiple fronts between Russia/China and the US as the basis for the fake WWIII Shitshow?
I mean who really cares so much about the South China Sea issues that are a mere inconvenience that can be easily sailed around when the Chinese and Russians can get into direct military confrontation with us simply by bombing ISIS.
The real reason : Golan Heights Has OIL - A LOT of it..
There is rumored to be upwards of a TRILLION BARRELS OF OIL IN THE GOLAN HEIGHTS. Do you think Russian and China are going to let a bunch of rent-a-jihadis throw out Assad so so Israel and some mid-east puppet can have unlimited access to that oil?
This is literally the easy-bake recipe ingredients for WWIII. The bible records that Damascus, Syria is nuked. Assad HAS NO MILITARY LEFT. So think guys - who do you think Israel is going to be nuking to fulfill that prophecy? The Russian and Chinese moving to establish a beachhead nead that Golan Heights oil deposit!
FM, I betcha Russia has learned how to exterminate terrorists organizations in the time between...think Chechnya. Also Putin is very pissed at Ergodan and has promised him a big Satlingrad, think YPK kurds with a little help finally carving out a nation for themselves if Ergodan wants to continue to play games.
Russia is still fighting Chechen head-choppers today:
Russian marines in first Battle against ISIS in Syria
Source is Debka File, so take with a grain of salt. But Waha Report did list this item from yesterday:
So a pre-attack airstrike followed by Russian marines and Hezbollah regulars going in for a jihadi beat-down makes sense.
The Russian 810th Marine Brigade belongs to it's Black Sea Fleet and are thought to number 500 in Syria now. Not sure how many CIA Chechen head-choppers were at Kuweyres, but there is without doubt 'less' of them today.
LL, I'm watching closely for a sudden, "spontaneous" eruption of Sunni extremist violence in the -Stan nations and the Xinjiang province of China.
It won't matter if China is committed in Syria. The PLA can throw warm bodies at bullets until the bullets run out.
You see where all this is going, don't you? When these guys get bogged down, other forces will arrive. Israel will be skitish, and TSHTF. The prophesy comes to pass as all the great armies of the world will be in the ME for the final battle. I'd say for those of us who believe the biblical prophesies, it's time to prepare in earnest for the worst.
keeping an open mind....some say WWIII has already started..... i recall reading an "end-times" book back in the 70's that postulated Russia/America in a mideast war of Armageddon...
Here we are all these years later..
let's see if amerika/israel folds... or not
If you truly believe in the biblibal prophecies then shouldn't we be preparing for the best, not the worst?
And what if I believe the bible is a bunch of hogwash, as is EVERY religion ever constructed?
What does what you "believe" have to do with the reality of the situation? Wait and see I suppose.
"And what if I believe..."
And what if I BELIEVE that the Titanic can't sink, or that 19 Arab Hijackers led by a Crazy Cleric in a cave in Tora Bora with a cellphone and a laptop did '9/11', or that Janet Yellen is really sexy, or that Soylent Green really IS processed plankton, or that nuclear radiation is actually GOOD for you, or Brian Williams was shot down in a helicopter over Iraq?
(Would I still be 'respected' for my beliefs, or would you call me 'ignorant' (to be kind)?)
Convince yourself that there is NO 'law of gravity'. Go ahead. It isn't real. NOW, go to the highest building and FLY. Don't be afraid. Just JUMP OFF. YOU BELIEVE there is no 'law of gravity', therefore your 'reality' is, um, yet to be proven. BY YOU. AS YOU FLY.
Don't let your senses tell you anything FACTUAL, and don't watch the situation as it unfolds beneath/around/on top of you.
YOU BELIEVE!
YOU BELIEVE; THERFORE YOU ARE CORRECT!
YOU are a LEGEND (in YOUR OWN MIND)! INFALLIABLE, CORRECT, NEVER WRONG!
For those of us who don't believe the Biblical prophesies, I'd say your comment was inane and trivial.
Perhaps.
Unless of course those in control of the purpse strings, and therefore the nuclear launch codes, not only believe them but are actively working to make them happen.
Then it doesn't really matter what you believe.
They'll have lots of cannon fodder to throw out there, around 30 million or so potentially:
By 2015 there will be approx 25 million more males than females aged 15-39 (I would say this is prime fighting age)
By 2020 this rises to approx 30 million
This was due in part to China's one child policy.
Age numbers came from the world bank.
already happened a long time ago, but agreed, more new of that is likely to 'suddely' appear
Plus, now the application looks like the following:
Gender: [ ] Male [ ] Female [ ] I'm offended
Gender: [ ] Male [ ] Female [ ] Yes
Well, there is a rebel group in the Philippines which uses the acronym "MILF".
Hm. Never thought I'd look forward to another terrorist group.
I am disappointed Philippines. MILF instead of LBFM?
BTFD? LGBT?
Step 1) Import millions of jillions of dissimilar immigrants/refugees/invaders/whatever.
Step 2) Suddenly there are "duhmystik terrizz"
Step 3) They're everywhere!! Halp, gubbamin - HALP!!
"Don't worry innocent citizen, papa gubbbamin is here to save you from the new terrizz meme target scapegoat - the evil duhmystik terrizz.
Wait a sec... how do I know you are not one of them...
Papers/right hand/forehead/your bunghole please!"
Nice thought, Publicus, and congratulations on your previous "Chinese troops w/in 6 weeks calls - if this all comes to pass.
But the US will not, cannot, go gently into that good night, particularly as regards their Saudi oil. Pretty fuckin' scary.
Yes, and if true, this is checkmate for Petrodollar, all lthat is left now is the long road down. US and west will not be able to maintain their position in MENA.
It's a short walk down the 'Green Mile', but it seems like an eternity when you're looking back at it.
I don't understand what 'MENA' is (except for HillBillary Clinton's airport in Arkansas where the CIA drug-smuggling planes used to bring in the Cocaine. I'll ask Barry Seals [if he's willing to talk... from the grave]).
14 years ago, something happened. It's taken SOME that long (14 years) to adjust their rearview mirrors. Between my stacking episodes, i was willing and able to send funding for this video, and followed through (because I think that an awakening mind is a terrible thing to let go to waste):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Q5eZhCPuc&spfreload=10
FEDRES is now 102 years old and counting. It was 'checkmate' for the United States, 102 years ago. It's been a LONG ROAD DOWN already. 'The sparks of the tempest rage, a hundred years on; the voice of the dreamer SCREAMS the 'cause' of the 'pawn'...':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnijc9wNpV4&spfreload=10
This song is pretty deep, and a HARBINGER AS WELL, you know.
Welcome to the MATRIX, 'SWR'. Are you JUST NOW starting to figure this shit out? Too bad, you know, that you are thinking that there is any time left to save what once was. Perhaps you are too young to remember when the Kissinger/Nixon Administration suspended the rules regarding Sarbanes/Oxley (and admitted that the CONUS, INC. was OUT OF GOLD). The fucking MIC drained the reserves (and loaned out the rest of the 'safe holdings') to wage this 'police action' in VIETNAM, you see, and when FRANCE began to get 'cold feet' and demanded repatriation of THEIR gold (held in 'safety' after the German occupation during WWII), There was NONE (it was put in 'trust' to the octopi and squids, who leveraged it around the financial globe). I remember this, as the 'president' went on live television back in 1971 to claim that the rules regarding settlements in Gold were to be 'temporarily suspended'.
YOU see the issue from the perspective of one who has only known the issues as given to you by those who are programming you to believe that 'everything is awesome' and that 'recovery is just around the corner' (a 'retrospective' pre-programmed view, as it were).
Collapses of empires happen slowly at first, but soon the speed increases exponentially and uncontollably. It's like viewing a slow-motion train wreck, or the last minutes of the Titanic. The end is SUDDEN and TRAGIC and LETHAL to those involved. The 'long road down' thing has ALREADY HAPPENED.
D'ya KEN, LADDIE?
MENA = Middle East and North Africa
I agree. Syria is turning into quite the party. Spook heaven has shifted from Ukraine to Syria (let's face it though the whole Ukraine thing was getting a little old anyway).
Now all we need are some asymetrical 'terrorist' events in and around Syria, commencing in 3,2,1..............
(not sure whether to throw the Russian Embassy 'Mortar' attack into that bin or not).
Then watch Russia begin to push back toward the south (ie: Israel). Things will escalate from there. Israel can't be liking what's going on now. Oh well. You can't always get the war you want, but sometimes you'll get the war you deserve.
@TP:
It is wise to consider an alternative perspective too, i.e., is-Real? is calling the shots for all three major powers to show up.
Entirely possible. There is more than enough evidence to back up the theory that something like that is really what's going on. Those highest up are simply pushing and pulling on strings from above.
Very likely indeed.
Too many coincidences if not.
At some point though events spinning out of control become unstable and altogether unpredictable.
You can't control everything, but can control some sellout mvthrfvkers that control a lot of people that eventually control everything through trickle-down. If every "important" player except the boots on the ground in the theater of war is paid off to play a certain part, I don't see how things become unstable or unpredictable except by design. Instablity or unpredictability lies only in the trickle-down portion - never at the level of command issuance.
These are the same bastards that "took us to the moon"...
They just yank the string, and set the top to spinning. They don't control the path it takes.
Dreidel, dreidel, dreidel, with dreidel I shall play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s5GY2NY2wY
Apparently, the Golan Heights may have quite a bit of oil plus the area off the coast of Syria has a huge nat gas field.
Hopefully the Russians and Chinese will help the Syrians to rebuild Syria.
Strays off the Sino/Russo good cop,bad cop routine though.
Seems unlikely that the Chicoms would do it.
Publicus was quoting reports that were already in circulation in the Arab media earlier this week. He simply declined to post links to appear as if he is some insider sage. The article above appeared earlier in the week, and is only being reported now by ZH:
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/chinese-military-personnel-expected-...
We are seeing a lot of these posts from the Putin fans:
"The Russian and Chinese strategy against terror is simple, vaporize every place where enemy fire came from. Including entire city blocks."
And it is said with great boasting and pride. If this is true then these people must be absolute monsters. Psycopaths. And what a great strategy for a suicide bomber. Fire one shot from where people who are not of his/her religion and Russia will vaporize entire city blocks of those people for him.
Is Putin this sick?
A statement doesn't have to be true just because it was made by a fan of Putin.
Correlation isn't causation.
It was the Russian strategy in Grosny, which is why it is repeated as the likely strategy in Syria.
Look at Grosny today and compare it to any city in Iraq and Afghanistan and tell me the Russian strategy wasn't superior. The war in Chechnya lasted half as long, cost fewer lives (on all sides) than either of the U.S. eternal wars.
It was also the U.S.A's tactic in WWII, and we all looked at West Germany, Japan and South Korea as shining examples of Western ingenuity and civilization.
It wasn't until the MIC realised that if they actually won a war that they stopped getting paid that the strategy changed.
That's not Putin's strategy, that is Publicus ranting his armchair warrior fantasies.
Ha ha ha. I really enjoy the demonization of Putin, especially when he's accused of planning to follow our government's lead. The comment above shows that the commenter has exactly zero knowledge of how the U.S. military fights.
When someone shoots at our troops in any of the many countries we have invaded, those troops call in American air support to bomb the shooters. Here is a fun fact--the smallest U.S. bomb weighs 500 pounds. So someone shooting at American troops can expect to be bombed with a ton or more of high explosives. That amount of explosives will cause entire city blocks to be evaporated.
So here, the commenter is demonizing Putin for planning to do something that the U.S. Military does every day of the week all over the world. The hypocrisy is stunning.
Please reread my post. I did not mention the US military at all, did I?
How did I demonize Putin? All I did was point out what the Putin fans themselves were saying about Putin. If that is demonizing then it is you and them who are doing so not me.
You yourself say that Putin plans cause entire blocks to be evaporated. Yet you do not have a problem with it because it is Putin who plans to do so. THAT is hypocrisy. What kind of person is Putin considering, as you state, he plans to evaporate entire city blocks without consideration for the innocent? A nice guy?
Why didn't you mention the US military?
They use the same tactics, as explained to you above, and yet you refuse to denouce them as well.
If Putin is sick to think about evaporating entire city blocks, why isn't every leader who has already ordered exactly the same not worthy of a more heinous label than that?
Or do your handlers order that you only hold Putin up for such contempt?
Your omissions speak louder than your words - a paid shill and troll and nothing more.
you mean like in Nam where you killed anything that moved and if you couldn't you just called in the napalm airstrike?
War of Gog and Megog.
War of Gog and Megog.
What, now Bibi has to make a trip to Beijing.
Oy vey, what about "The Greater Israel Project".
Gog and Magog showing up in the Middle East, what could go wrong?
The hook is set, lunch for the beasts of the field and birds of the air will soon be served...
Isn't Mog and Gagog?
Nudelman should be a "comfort woman" for the troops..
no way anyone would never stick his pe.nis inside of a meat grinder
Really? What about David Cameron?
Well he would be happy because it is kosher like him.
Yea, I down voted him because I couldn't find anything concrete or official from Chinese sources. Kinda feel bad but, at this point it is still just a rumor.
Does anyone else notice just how much news gets created from "sources inside…" or "Un-named officials" who wish to remain anonymous, off-the-record, etc.? It's almost as if News reporting has become a giant gossip-fest.
I am concerned on that as well.. One ship transiting Suez is not proof.. But gave him the benefit..
You may recall that around Sept 2 and 3rd that ZH published several articles about how a full expeditionary force complete with a squadron of fighter jets, heavy weapons and a large contingent of ground troops were to be in Syria in just days, all from Russia. Now it is back to more rumors that Russia is going to open a air base, maybe. Maybe a few troops are at the naval base. No groups of heavy weapons.
Putin has not fired a shot or dropped a bomb. Nothing is stopping him. He has the assets in, on ships or near Syria to have been doing so for a couple years. Nothing.
"I forget who predicted this a few days back but, my hat is off to you sir."
Thanks Calmyourelf. Always nice to feel loved.
09/10/2015 "Can't wait for China to send troops to defend Assad. Checkmate suckers."
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-10/major-humiliation-obama-iran-ha...
And we don't need "Minority Report" because we have the "USA".
Huum. These are the same players that are involved in an incident in this area, that were in an ancient book I once read.
Breaking Dawn?
"Red Dawn"?
Can they come to Camden, NJ, Milwaukee, Baltimore, Oakland, E St Louis, Memphis, New York Shitty, DC and Zollywood?
Publicus, I read your posting a day or two ago about China sending military into to Syria. You took some heat from other posters here for not providing a source. Then this article pops up. As far as I am concerned your word is solid and doesn't need provable sources. I hope this statement is as accurate as your last.
The article above appeared earlier this week and was one of the provable sources that Publicus used but declined to reference:
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/chinese-military-personnel-expected-...
And seriously, you are hoping that entire Syrian cities are vaporized and repoulated by the Chinese? Get serious.
Publicus you were spot on with out any news. What will the usa response will be?
"What will the usa response will be?"
I have advised King Obammy, we gotta send either the Nuland or the Yellen to straddle Al Bigdaddy's face so he no say nuthin.
You are meaning well, but they only need some aircraft and many helicopters.
The ground troops following are Syrian.
"The ground troops following are Syrian."
You sure you got that right ?
What about them 3,000,000 Chinese troops on that frigate ?
Who is your source? Because Assad himself has not been informed. And did you get the memo that critical ISIS choke points are not in Syria nor Iraq. They are in Southern Turkey and just outside of Amman, Jordan.
Did you just recently visit Syria to speak with Assad yourself, the Minister of Justice, and the Grand Mufti of Syria (among other key ministers)? Did the former [commander] G2 of the 3rd Army, NATO nuclear commander, Delta Force commander accompany you? Were you bloodied in Vietnam and have first hand experience in combat tactics and strategy. Did you know Col. Ted Guy who exposed McCain?
Are you prepared to see SPETNAZ along with Delta Force (SOCOM, MARSOC, et al) possibly along with PLA SF to raid offices in The Woodlands and Irving, Texas? That's hitting ISIS/ISIL/Daesh/al Nusra/al Qaeda/Gladio II where it hurts.
No conventional mass troop deployments are not only necessary. They are counter-productive to success of defeating a 4th gen asymmetrical paramilitary enemy. Only surgical direct action ops of SF combined with surgical air attacks on key targets will achieve success here.
Any other method beyond this application is a waste of men and material. It is not cost effective and a waste of critical financial resources for even the strongest of superpowers.
I suggest your sources are misinformation at best, and disinformation at worst. The worst coming from confirmed Bush-CIA/Mossad controlled outlets which just wish to confuse the issue (PSYOPs) via fear mongering and strategic red herrings.
I'm a USMC "cold warrior" vet myself. Past TS/SCI/SSBI in comm/intel. I have had training to know how these things work. President Reagan was my only CinC. My former CG 2DMARDIV, later CMC, turns out to be a NJ mob boss, that is responsible for mass murder (probably a key planner of 9/11 via Fort Lee). Quite disappointing for this Marine who sat in the general's barber chair.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/09/23/the-secret-isis-safe-havens-nobo...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/04/neo-so-much-more-than-nukes/
http://wantarevelations.com/2014/01/wanta-plan-macro-financial-economic-...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/23/mapping-fort-lee-the-truth-behin...
https://app.box.com/s/hfgvcqg7gqh7i27at6sv53ywu87lwarp (listen to the three (3) interviews with Amb. Wanta, and get a real history lesson.)
Thank you for your post. Heartening to know there are still men of honor left. Thank you for your service then AND perhaps more importantly NOW.
Veterans today is straight rubbish kid. That whole Leo Wanta shit is the dumbest fucking farce ever pulled (successfully because idiots like you believe it). Yea hes got a bank account with trillions he is waiting to give back to the citizens of the US. Harry Potter is more
Believable than that entite site. Salon magazine is more credible.
Those figures sure look like Russian support and logistics, and PLA boots on the glound.
"95,000 Russian troops will be in Syria soon, together with another 300,000 Chinese troops.
After Syria, they will eradicate ISIS from Iraq, then onto Saudi Arabia. The terrorist problem will be solved once and for all."
If this happens, LOOK UP,if they make ONE overature towards Israel,this will be WWIII.No need to keep stacking of prepping or anything except getting you spirtual house in order.
Hopefully they will help the Iraqi people take back their country.
I hope the House of Saud gets taken out too.
After Syria, they will eradicate ISIS from Iraq, then onto Saudi Arabia. The terrorist problem will be solved once and for all.
Mmmm - probably not. Washington DC and their masters in Israhell will still be intact, so the head will be fine, and the tippy-tip of the tail will be mangled.... or maybe I completely missed your sarcasm - lol.
"95,000 Russian troops will be in Syria soon, together with another 300,000 Chinese troops."
300,000 Chinese troops ? Ya mean, that SINGLE Chinese frigate is carrying 300,000 Chinese troops.
Yo King Obammy, I reckon we better move our ISIS assets out of the immediate vicinity.
"Send in John McCain and John Kerry. They'll fix this mess."
By all means - give them a bolt action rifle each and a handful of rounds and "send them in".
Let's make sure they're "vetting" the moderates when Russia and China come a'callin...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34346449
And then spread their ashes out over the sea from a chopper. Dunno, seems fitting some how.
Au contraire, bring those Russian "heavy flame throwers" to DC.
Later, we can all have a victory parade.
Pic of what's going on in Syria right now...
The Chinese hate ISIS. Evidnece shows ISIS is connected to several terrist attacks on civilians in Wee-Ghur province and even the Bangkok bomber has ties to both Turkey and ISIS.
I am surprised only that it took so long for the Chinese to get involved.
China is awesome when it comes to Muslims. In those muslim towns, they force the stores to sell alcohol lol.
Infidels!
The muslim Uyghur people consider themselves ethnic Turk, not Chinese. The are fleeing repression in China for Turkey - there are estimates of and ex-pat community in the tens of thousands around Istanbul. There are still many Uyghurs trying to get to Turkey, but they can't cross Afghanistan because of the violence and corrupt U.S.-protected child-raping police (imagine that).
Among the Uyghurs are a small number that have become radicalized and have left China for the specific purpose of waging jihad in Syria. They are closely aligned with al Qaeda (not ISIS) and operate under the name of the Turkistan Islamic Party (TIP). Their flag looks an al Qaeda black flag with TIP wording.
Most Uyghurs - either in Istanbul or China - do not identify with the jihadis or support their extremism. The U.S. and Turkey have seized the 'opportunity' of the destitute refugees to actively recruit jihadis - both in China and Turkey - to join TIP and fight in Syria's Idlib Governorate. That recruitment is not admitted by either the U.S. or Turkey, but the Russians and Chinese know damn well what's going on.
About a year ago, a group of maybe 350 showed up in Idlib in Northern Syria to fight with al Nusra (not ISIS). Fake al Nusra (CIA-controlled) has been quite successful in Idlib Governorate, seizing Idlib City earlier this year, and capturing the Abu Alduhur military airbase and another large city, Jisr ash Shuguhr. Idlib Governorate is the one between Aleppo and the coast/Latakia. Al Nusra will undoubtedly launch a larger campaign against Latakia and Tartus once they fully control Idlib. More newly-CIA-recruited Uyghur jihadis have been flooding into Idlib lately, and the last batch of Division 30 'moderate rebel' recruits and their autocannon-equipped Toyotas are on their way to Idlib.
Russia's interest in this is to rid Idlib of al Nusra and the Chechen and Uyghur jihadis operating there so they can't attack Russian's Syrian ports only ten miles or so away. China, of course, seeks to kill Uyghur jihadis before they return to China (or anywhere else) to chop heads. Both Russian and China know that not only is the U.S. not bombing any Idlib-based al Nusra, but they are, in fact, actively recruiting Chechens and Uyghurs to take and hold Idlib.
The reason the U.S. won't help the Afrin Rojava Kurds close the Kilis to Aleppo terrorist pipeline is because that's how the CIA supplies arms and al Nusra recruits to Idlib. The now-defunct so-called Safe Zone North of Aleppo was the U.S. plan to protect their al Nusra assets from ISIS, who wanted Idlib for themselves. ISIS is a great asset to the U.S. for fighting Assad, but they don't want ISIS interfering with their other schemes in Syria.
Idlib isn't the goal. The whole CIA-al Nusra strategy in Idlib is to have al Nusra overrun Latakia and Tartus to force the Russians out. Israel needs the Syrian coast controlled for their Leviathan pipeline plans and are insane about kicking the Russians out once and for all. Putin knows this.
In other words, Russia and China have been forced to act because of another colossal CIA fucked-up outsourcing scheme of head-chopper terrorist recruitment for their proxy 'rebel' army. They can't find any Syrians that want to fight in the U.S. fake civil war against Assad anymore. It's not that Sunni Syrians suddenly like Assad - it's just that they hate the U.S. MORE and would rather be under Assad.
The Division 30 desertion wasn't a fluke - every head-chopper in Syria knows how desparate the CIA is to recruit 'moderate rebels' and they are taking advantage of it to obtain training, arms and ammo. That's why Pedo Petraeus want's to directly train and arm fake al Nusra - it saves time not going through the 'moderate rebel' charade. Stupid f'king Americans...
Okay, but answer me this: How is the United States involved?
How is it NOT involved?
Ha ha, I know.
Hillary has an erection at the thought of all those fresh Idlib baby livers. The soon-to-be Secretary of the Army, David Petraeus, is dreaming about his own personal contingent of 12-year-old Syrian 'Dancing Boys'. He didn't use to swing that way, but all those DynCorp parties in Afghanistan with the Bacha Bazi auctions wore off on him. Hey, it's not child rape if they consent, right?
Well, Paveway, I have this strong impression (largely acquired through reading Dmitri Orlov) that (presumably aside from the Chechnya troubles) Russia has done a great job of making a form of multiculturalism work. They seem to have scores of enclaves that are semi-isolated, and yet able to intercommunicate and work together when necessary. They all identify strongly as Russians.
This appears to be 100 times more advantageous than the wretched U.S.A. imbroglio.
This saddens me.
Yeah, they don't care about what the media says and collateral damage is just apart of the game. this is turning into a world class clusterfuck and I figure President Zippy and Ketchup-Boy are busy deciding on the worst thing they can do...except get the hell out of Dodge......
Russia and China are taking advantage of the US's languishing hegemony and reserve currency (and war fatigue, middle class depression, etc.). Just as the global workforce wants what the American workforce has (had) so it is with power.
USA is a joke. Even White males are clowns worshiping their Trayvon thugs playing college and pro ball. White southerns like fools worshiping their trayvon tugs in place like Tulane, Clemson, Auburn, U of Alabama, TEXAS and other idiots. Like little sissy cheerleaders.
I know white southern males that are total idiots and love their Trayvons at State U. Morons. cheering on white genocide.
Fear-mongering at its finest. There is no such thing as "white genocide".
The most prophetic question ever?
"Where are all the white women?"
something about exponential decay...maybe
Eirek = Moron
What do you think Diversity is, or the uncontrolled immigration into ONLY MAJORITY WHITE COUNTRIES IS retard?
I'd like to shoot you in your genitals so you can never breed again.
Bad analogy Freddy.
Almost all of the NFL Trayvons get back up once they hit the ground.
Yeah, but the kids killed in the womb don't.
Shouldn't those female football players get medical waivers for being pregnant? Assuming they know of course.
“This Russian tank-mounted rocket launcher can incinerate eight city blocks.”
I don’t think they are going to express the kind of fake concern about collateral damage/casualties that the west does.
Ever see how the Russians handled some of those Somali pirates?
On one occasion, when pirate overtook a Russian oil tanker, the Russians came in and took the tanker back, put all of the pirates back onto their ship, handcuffed them to the boat, set the boat on fire and then proceeded to use the boat as target practice.
Lots of Russian flags being flown in those water now.
http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/russian-way-deal-pirates-t94515.html
Problem with the West is that they have to built their policies around "perception", something that does not bother the Russians as they control the news.
Well Americans, including white males, love their Trayvon thug ball players. Brainwashed morons. Cowards.
sputniknews are complete bull shit
http://nobsrussia.com/2015/09/15/classic-bullshit/
all you say is complete bullshit too
@message
Let me guess. You is wearing a jean pant?
Brzezinski?
That thing is way better than lighting your farts on fire I'd say.
As guy who follows this war every day, who also followed libya every day - Russia stepping in, and now this, is truly music to my ears - but more importantly will doubtlessly save thousands of lives in the short term, and will prevent the liquidation of the dozens of minority religions / cultures in Syria which up unti lthe West came in and took a massive dump on the area, lived in peace.
I can't overemphasize at just how bad things have gotten for the terrorists in the last couple of weeks. I'd say it's hilarious, but given the scale of suffering it is distasteful, so I'll merely say that I'm thankful.
loose ends being tied up before Russians and Chinese take control. Looks like a German military officer that was part of the anti-ISIS team was founded dead in an Iraqi hotel.
Can we say mossad, mi6, see eye aye, or Xe contractor hit to tie up loose ends. Nail gun perhaps.
Charles Drake wrote below:
http://syrianperspective.com/2015/09/damascus-huge-counter-offensive-sta...
mossad,cia and homo bond silencing loose lips that sink ships.
German Anti-ISIS Coalition Chief Found Dead in Iraq Hotel
MAINZ, Germany — A German army chief in the U.S.-led coalition fighting ISIS in Iraq was found dead in his hotel room there Wednesday, officials said.
Colonel Stephan Spoettel was found dead at 8:50 a.m. local time in the Cristal Erbil Hotel in the northern Kurdish city of Irbil, the German armed forces said in a statement.
Spoettel was the head of the coalition's German training contingent in northern Iraq. There was no information to suggest suicide or "third-party involvement," the statement added.
Operation Inherent Resolve, the U.S. name for the coalition fighting the extremists across Iraq and Syria, said in a statement that a member of the coalition had died in Irbil on Wednesday, without providing further details.
"This incident is under investigation and further information will be released as appropriate," the statement added.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/german-anti-isis-coalition-chief-found...
Read more at http://syrianperspective.com/2015/09/damascus-huge-counter-offensive-sta...
Do the Chinese really wear that colorful camoflage on their BDUs?
Navy. Same as the US.
US Navy uniforms - Made in China. Looks like the USN is getting their ghey on.
Yes, many of their covert actions take place at a Macy's floral pattern sale.
The camo in their recent parade looked like "Artic Blue" as some poster on ZH noted.
As opposed to the smashing success story that was George W. Bush's dual invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq, which caused the current predicament?
What does Obama's penis taste like? How do you find time to post?
He is a fat black man who eats white babies according to his avatar.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34346449
Yes, if you measure it by poppy production in Afghanistan, and heroine imports and deaths in the U.S. The CIA transporters / marketers are raking in lots and lots of moola.
Day-to-day, it's just going from bad to worse for the Neocon schemers...
Funny, Latakia is about 250 miles from The Valley of Armageddon.
No kidding.
This could be a party of biblical proportions.
Could be? Could be?
LOL.
Will be is probably the best assessment.
Gog and Magog moving? Is this the big one?
Would be very difficult to not speculate on that. I think it could very well be.
it's the army of 200 millions from the east
Yikes.
Magnetosphere - Two different prophets two different wars near similar time frame. War of Gog and Magog involves Israel against some mulsim nations supported by Russia. One can look up the countries involved referencing Ezekial 38. There is a 3 1/2 year pause of major war and truce declared after this large regional war.
Second war that discussed 200 million troops is John of Patmos. That is the total number of troops involved in WW3 where he describes modern weaponry. Back in John's day 200 million combatants was not possible. According to John, 1/3 of people die on earth from this war because of the famine and disease it also causes.
But if your going to read Revelations read it all the way through, it states at the end the tent of God is with mankind and death will be no more. In other words Revelations is warnings to get the hell out of the way for a short time but it is good news and we are nearing the end of our evolution. Between AI, Quantum Physics and Nano-Tech, ee're 40 years away from the singularity, literally the end of classic death and transformation to energy. It is good news but going to be real rough until about 2022 and then rebuilding. It is a continuum as some have suggested not just one off events. Such are markers.
I just like data and correlations, reading tea leaves based on statistical probability is a lot of fun. Too bad the leaves say very scary and ugly times for all for a short period of years. And I feel like shit for all the innocent people in Syria and the ME. What is the death toll in Syrian now, something like 200,000?