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Chinese Military Personnel, "Aerial Assets" Allegedly En Route To Syria

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On Wednesday evening, we suggested that Vladimir Putin’s explicit promise to go ahead with airstrikes against terrorist targets in Syria with or without the help of the US effectively marks the end of Washington’s years-old effort to destabilize and ultimately remove the Assad regime. 

The Kremlin's pronouncement came just a day after the mainstream media began reporting that Moscow and Tehran are coordinating their efforts on the ground (something which should come as no surprise to anyone) meaning any Sunni extremists and/or CIA-trained “freedom fighters” intent on seizing control of the country will now need to go through Russia and Iran, with the latter now seemingly willing to make the badly kept secret of its military support for Assad no secret at all. 

Of course the thing about irreparably bad situations is that although they cannot, by definition, get better, they can always get worse and for the US in Syria, that would mean China showing up. Beijing has made a concerted effort this year to project the growing power and influence of the PLA navy. That effort has so far involved an unprecedented land reclamation effort in the Spratlys, a “rescue” operation in the Yemeni port of Aden, and a surprise appearance off the coast of Alaska.

(a Chinese soldier in Yemen on March 29)

Given that, and given what we know about Beijing’s support for Moscow and Tehran, the following from pro-Assad Al-Masdar news shouldn’t come as a complete surprise: 

The recent arrival of the Russian Marines and Air Force to the Syrian port-city of Tartous has generated a significant amount of interest around the world, as the possibility of Russia’s direct military intervention becomes the focal point of the war on ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham).

 

Should the Russians begin military operations in Syria, what role with the U.S. led “Anti-ISIS Coalition” play in combatting the terrorist group? Will they coordinate with one another? Will they avoid one another?

 

Russia seems poised to take a similar approach to the U.S. led Coalition; however, they are not seeking the assistance of the neighboring Arab countries to combat the terrorist group.

 

Instead, the Russians appear to have a contingency that involves another world power that was absent from the U.S. led Anti-ISIS Coalition: China.

 

On Tuesday morning, a Chinese naval vessel reportedly traveled through Egypt’s Suez Canal to enter the Mediterranean Sea; its destination was not confirmed.

 

However, according to a senior officer in the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) that is stationed inside the Syrian coastal city of Latakia, Chinese military personnel and aerial assets are scheduled to arrive in the coming weeks (6 weeks) to the port-city of Tartous – he could not provide anymore detail.

This comes two years after China warned that turmoil in Syria could have negative implications for the global economy and 18 months after Beijing, along with Moscow, used their security council vetoes to undercut a UN resolution calling for the crisis in Syria to be referred to the Hague. Here's what China had to say at the May 22, 2014 meeting: 

Mr. Wang Min (China) (spoke in Chinese): For over three years, the escalation of the conflict in Syria has inflicted deep suffering on the Syrian people and posed a serious challenge to the countries of the region and the international community. China has always maintained that all parties in Syria should respect human rights and international humanitarian law and prevent innocent people from being harmed during the conflict. China is firmly opposed to all violations of international humanitarian law or serious violations of human rights committed by all parties to the conflict in Syria. However, with regard to draft resolution S/2014/348, on which the Council voted earlier, China has some serious reservations. First, China believes that any action to seek recourse to the International Criminal Court (ICC) to prosecute the perpetrators of serious violations should be conducted on the basis of respect for State judicial sovereignty and the principle of complementarity. China is not a State party to the Rome Statute. China always has reservations concerning the referral by the Security Council of particular country situations to the ICC. This is our principled position.

 

Secondly, efforts to seek a political settlement to the question of Syria are encountering difficulties. The international community must shore up its confidence, remain patient and be steadfastly committed to the overall direction of the political settlement. What is most urgently needed now is to urge the Government of Syria and the opposition to immediately implement a ceasefire and put an end to the violence in order to start a third round of negotiations in Geneva so as to advance the political process and embark on a political transition. In the current circumstances, to forcibly refer the situation in Syria to the ICC is not conducive either to building trust among all parties in Syria or to an early resumption of the negotiations in Geneva. It will only jeopardize the efforts made by the international community to push for a political settlement. 

 

Thirdly, for some time now, the Security Council has maintained unity and coordination on the question of Syria, thanks to efforts by Council members, including China, to accommodate the major concerns of all parties. At a time when seriously diverging views exist among the parties concerning the draft resolution, we believe that the Council should continue holding consultations, rather than forcing a vote on the draft resolution, in order to avoid undermining Council unity or obstructing coordination and cooperation on questions such as Syria and other major serious issues. Regrettably, China’s approach has not been taken on board; China therefore voted against the draft resolution.

Yes, "regrettably China's approach has not been taken on board" and so, more than a year later that approach might have just shifted to a strategy that involves direct military intervention on behalf of Assad. 

For now, this is still in the realm of speculation as the story cited above certainly falls short of providing anything in the way of conclusive evidence for a claim that the Chinese military is set to intervene directly. That said, the last several weeks have proven that the situation in Syria is remarkably fluid and what seems far-fetched one day has the potential to become reality the next, which is why we contend that Xi Jinping very well may decide that Raqqa is as good a place as any to test out some of the equipment that was on full display in Beijing earlier this month.

 

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Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:09 | 6589013 TongueStun
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It's a good thing America has a Magic Kneegrow and a "foreign policy expert" in the WH

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:10 | 6589014 ThrowAwayYourTV
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Ok Obama, your up to bat. Obama? Obama? Anyone seen Obama?

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:24 | 6589106 alphahammer
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Yea Obama is back in DC going hehehe whilst rubbing his hands together with an ear to ear grin.

"Its about time Putin and the Chinese get bloodied and have to explain to people back home why their young men are coming home dead"

I'm not trying to be a unfeeling asshole about this -- just stating fact. Watch and see -- when the Chinese  personnel start getting beheaded on TV uh oh...

Yea its going to be very very interesting. Poor bastards...

 

 

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 16:16 | 6589953 DosZap
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ThrowAwayYourTV

"Obama, your up to bat. Obama? Obama? Anyone seen Obama?"

Yep, he's on the Golf Course with the Pope as his BAG boy.
Thu, 09/24/2015 - 17:00 | 6590210 Flagit
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He said the bat is too heavy.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:11 | 6589029 Mike Masr
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Russia and China are the founding member states of The Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) an intergovernmental economic and military alliance of mutual security.

Shanghai Cooperation Organization Forces:

Active personnel 5,325,000
Reserve personnel 7,675,000
Available personnel for immediate activation and Conscription 192,039,958

Total of personnel 205,039,958



The economic and numerical might of China, together with the military prowess and vast nuclear arsenal of Russia.

 

http://www.sectsco.org/EN123/

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:20 | 6589073 alphahammer
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Meaning what?

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:25 | 6589111 SirBarksAlot
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Meaning "Oh shit!"

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:58 | 6589316 tarabel
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Force projection capability:  10,000

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:04 | 6589685 Victor von Doom
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Sources Tarabel? or supposition?

Granted neither Russia, nor China have the projection capabilities of the US, just like the US hasn't the ground forces of those two - but you're being pretty specific there, care to back it up?

 

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:12 | 6589030 Salsa Verde
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This is playing out like a bad spy thriller, when does the hero run from a slow motion explosion with the hot babe and save the day?

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:05 | 6589695 Victor von Doom
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That'd be Putin with his gymnast girlfriend.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:15 | 6589038 Chuck Knoblauch
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I don't think Russia or China wants Israel to pre-position nuclear bombs in theri countries.

Only America allows that.

And, stop bumping me off the site.

If you want to get rid of Chuck, delete his accout.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:17 | 6589054 Batman11
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While Western markets are teetering, Russia and China know its time to act.

We can't upset the markets.

The West's Achilles heel.

The Western financial system nearly destroyed itself in 2008, it doesn't take much.

 

 

 

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:19 | 6589066 Chuck Knoblauch
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Philadelphia, here we come!

................!......................

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:20 | 6589069 Xiuhcoatl
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Selected news briefs from the 15:00 newscast of Israel Radio, Reshet Bet.

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The Russian Navy will be performing training maneuvers in the eastern Mediterranean, it was announced today. The Russian Ministry of Defence in Moscow said that the maneuvers shall take place in September and October 2015. Three large ships and and a number of auxiliary vesseels shall take part in the exercises, which shall include live missile fire. The announcement also stated that Cyprus has been advised of the planned maneuvers.  

In recent days there have been increasing reports of Russian military activity in Syria, including the establishment of bases and the deployment of manned and unmanned aircraft on Syrian soil.

(Poster's note: a look at the website of the Russian defence ministry reveals that these exercises are not a sudden thing; they seem to have been scheduled since the end of 2014. The current situation does increase their prominence, however.)
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An IDF spokesperson said today that the Russian and Israeli military working groups are expected to have their first talks in about a week and a half. The talks are intended to produce detailed measures to avoid friction between the armed forces of the two countries in regards to Syria.
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NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg expressed concern today about the increasing independence of Russia's military actions in Syria, and called upon Russia to coordinate their actions with Washington, so as to increase the effectiveness of Washington's actions against the "Islamic State".
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The Shabak (General Security Service / "Shin Bet") and Customs succeeded today in foiling an attempt to smuggle 15 tons of sulfuric acid to the Gaza Strip. Sulfuric acid is used in the making of explosives. The substance was discovered hidden in a large shipment of paint thinner. The shipment arrived in Israel from Egypt via the Nitzana crossing and was due to pass into the Gaza Strip via the Kerem Shalom crossing. A number of individuals were arrested in connection with the attempt.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:27 | 6589126 alphahammer
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Man oh man do the Russian trolls and the Jew haters have a hard time reading that.

Think teeth grinding and flatulence...

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:01 | 6589338 AlfredNeumann
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We don't want to hear about your cunt mothers's idiosyncracies.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:23 | 6589779 dexter_morgan
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Ho Lee Fuk

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:50 | 6589608 Sturm und Drang
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I am surprised anyone could even understand ol' Jens Stoltenberg with DC dick in his mouth.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:20 | 6589074 SirBarksAlot
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I'm confused.  Is this the touchy-feely China or bad-ass China?

Or maybe it's bad-ass China paying lip service to the military industrial complex we lovingly call our government, in a touchy-feely tone.

Maybe they'll arrive along the coast, standing shoulder to shoulder on the deck, singing Kumbayah.

 

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:20 | 6589075 Falconsixone
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Fighting terrorism pays well. Wait until US, Russia and China join forces for the UN dictated gun owner terrorists in America.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:21 | 6589082 StupidEarthlings
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So..Wtf kind of camouflage is that Chinese military guy wearing?

Should blend in just fine in the desert.

 

:/

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:34 | 6589177 Armed Resistance
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That is mall camo.  It allows you to blend into a Beneton poster or a Gap display at will.  It even guards against the excessive cologne that's pumped out of the front of Abercrombie every 30 seconds.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:32 | 6589512 shovelhead
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Geez.

I always thought that it was the mall public toilet spritzer gone haywire.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:47 | 6589259 irongator
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I was in Gulf War I. The majority of our troops didn't get desert cammies until after the war was over!

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:21 | 6589089 SMC
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It begins.  Only a few more stupid nation tricks before “Just Us and their minions” start running for their comfortable multi-decade underground villas.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:22 | 6589092 theyjustcantstop
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soon it'll be time to see which countries will sacrifice their country men for the very exposed petro dollar, and pipelines.

Russia, and china are to big to surround, the me isn't.

 

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:25 | 6589093 mastersnark
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There were a lot of sh!tholes vying to host the site of the 10th Decennial World Proxy War, so I hope the Syrians appreciate the honor that has been bestowed on them.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:23 | 6589101 falak pema
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China -Putin alliance on march to defend common ally Iran.

Concerning the Chinese downturn the most exposed banks to the Chinese conudrum by far are those of UK.

Whence the presence of Osborne in Beijing.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/countries-most-heavily-exposed-to-china-sl...

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 16:04 | 6589909 trader1
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take your pick of the next likely free trade union zone:

 

EU-China-Russia

EU-China

EU-Russia

EU-US

EU-US-Japan

 

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 17:41 | 6590382 king leon
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If this situation doesn't force up the price of oil, then the financial markets are definitely rigged. 

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:25 | 6589115 Snarf
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Market crash incoming.  Heads up. 

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:26 | 6589121 bankonzhongguo
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The other side benefit here is that all those Chinese construction battalions can (and will) wash up on shore at Tartus and rebuild all the infrastructure lost in the conflict a la the same IMF strat - China/Russia loan Syria money, they pay themselves to build bases/roads/power plants to house their own military. Consider this exercise the first example of the AIIB in action. Also no pipeline for your Qatar.

China can put 100,000 workers in the field within 90 days building whatever the regime wants.

Chances are Syria will have High Speed Rail before California.

The PLA finally got around to considering that these regions are a training kill-box zone rather than explicit foreign policy.

Its another day at the office for China, Inc.

What a complete disaster for US/Israeli FP.

Start a war.

Empower the Persians.

Create a vacuum that invites Russia and China into theater.

Syrian regime becomes even more distant allowing Quds to broker a whole new paradigm.

 

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:29 | 6589144 alphahammer
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Sure. I notice there was no mention of ISIS in any of that.

I guess you think this is all some sort of Med vacation for the newly crowned kings of the world (Chinese). 

BTW. In your scenario, you forgot how the Chinese are now requesting others "work" which means putting Russian laborers to do the job. Putin has probably already agreed to this.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:42 | 6589566 researchfix
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"Chinese military personnel and aerial assets are scheduled to arrive in the coming weeks (6 weeks) to the port-city of Tartous – he could not provide anymore detail."

So, within 6 weeks the ground will be cleared.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:29 | 6589139 MadVladtheconquerer
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Welcome me for I am now here! :)

Here is another take on Mr Putin and his intervention in Syria: http://www.realclearworld.com/blog/2015/09/syria_may_be_putins_afghanist...

Of course, if I were a CIA spook and I'm not (but if I were), I would encourage Mr Putin to commit more troops, more

hardware, more materiel.  Then, I would introduce a few Stingers and a few land-laucnhed Hellfire missile platforms.  I would even provide AWACs targetting

assistace from Turkish airspace or even Israeli airspace or Iraqi airspace.  I would then foment insurrection in Dagistan and Chechnya.  Even provide the arms!  And now

would be a great time to provide lethal aid to Ukraine.  Wait til the body bags start flowing into Moscow and Beijing from Syria.  Replay of Afghanistan 1980s anyone?

Bring it on!

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:30 | 6589154 alphahammer
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Bingo. Foxtrot Delta ;->

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:41 | 6589560 MadVladtheconquerer
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I see what you did there!  ;)

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:35 | 6589185 Jethro
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The Chinese won't care how many Chinese troops die, because it'll never be reported in the Chinese media...just like their economic numbers.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:50 | 6589610 Freddie
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Just like the current US debt.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:36 | 6589191 bid the soldier...
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You should have joined the army instead of turning into a puss.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:49 | 6589276 MadVladtheconquerer
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Is that what you did?  I mean, turned into a puss?

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 18:16 | 6590563 bid the soldier...
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I turned into a puss because of all the pussy I eat. 

You should try eating it sometime.  Or are you still afraid of getting your goatee sticky?

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:54 | 6589290 smacker
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For sure, Syria could theoretically become Putin's Afghanistan (again). But methinks that Russian planners will have considered that risk and adopted a policy stance to avoid it. Remember that one prime objective of Russia's intervention in Syria is to secure and expand its seaport in the Med. ISIS are unlikely to be a match for modern Russian weaponry.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:06 | 6589357 MadVladtheconquerer
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That was supposedly the case in Afghanistan in 1979 as well.  Until those camelfraggers were equipped w/ anti-helo missiles

in the 80s by my, er a, the CIA. 

Additionally, Turkey can close the Bosporus.  And don''t be surprised if US "boots on the ground" show up in Iraq and suddenly Iraqi

airspace is closed to Putin.  Funny how this stuff works.  How do you RARA wo/ flying around the Saudi peninsula and getting permission from Egypt to

use its airspace or running ships from northern Russia (not in winter) via Gibralter?

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:10 | 6589721 smacker
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There are always multiple risks with any military adventure. I'm saying that Putin is no fool - quite the opposite -and his planners will have considered all or most of the risks and potential obstacles. How he deals with any one of them if they arise is summat I'm not privy to.

But it looks like he's decided that ISIS (Washington's proxy terrorist organisation) must be dealt with and there will not be a Western puppet in Damascus. Looks like Tehran and Beijing support that, politically and militarily.

IMO, "ISIS will be broken down & out of order by Christmas".

 

YMMV :-)

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:11 | 6589722 Lost in translation
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Moron.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:06 | 6589356 Mike Masr
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This is just nonsense talk......it's what is said in an impotent moment or situation.

 

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:11 | 6589385 Volkodav
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better count your many "I would..." blah blah blah   

then subtract your know nothings about this subject

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:27 | 6589489 Falconsixone
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Divide that by 717 dead muslims 7+1+7=15 is 1+5=(6) and multiply the dont give a shits and you've got a number.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:32 | 6589515 MadVladtheconquerer
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>then subtract your know nothings about this subject

Is that what you did?  Can you show me how?

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:43 | 6589576 researchfix
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No Mountains. No caves.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:06 | 6589699 I AM SULLY
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As someone who served in the U.S. military as a short range air defense officer - your analysis is ridiculous. Have you ever trained with the stinger? - I have. I can tell you that knocking down planes, with the stinger, is not as much of a slam dunk as you might think. Plus, this isn't the 1980's - counter measures have improved significantly since then. Do you know what negative-UV is? - if you don't, then you are a clueless troll.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 18:39 | 6590675 king leon
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That's just what Putin has done to Obama. Sucked him into Syria and now we await for the humiliating climbdown. No doubt Obama will go crawling to the UN for a negotiated settlement to save face before the route starts and if Israel were to get involved then I am sure Putin would supply Hezbollah with all the technical shit they need to test Israel's Iron Dome. The US will now have to run the gauntlet through Pakistan again, to supply NATO forces in Afghanistan because Russia in a tit for tat response has denied US/NATO the use of Russian airspace into Afghanistan.

When the dust settles there will emerge new alliance consisting of Russia,Iran,China,India,Pakistan,Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria, far to big for the US/NATO tio fuck with, so dream on!!!!  

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 19:34 | 6590962 bid the soldier...
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you certainly are very welcome here.

Welcome me for I am now here! :)

And yet there is something about you that is very familiar. Something we've known for ten thousand years.

It's as palpable as a bump on a broken nose. 

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:32 | 6589168 Jethro
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Only 164 miles from Tartous to Megiddo.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:33 | 6589169 Bastiat
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The US/Israel/GB or whoever better be quick getting those embedded special ops "advisors" out. 

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:46 | 6589589 Sturm und Drang
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Pfft. There's a construction term that seems fitting here - "abandon in place". See "Bengazi".

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 18:12 | 6590535 scrappy
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That's what the "pause" is about.

Military courtesy.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/putin-hopes-steal-un-show-syria-focu...

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:33 | 6589173 bid the soldier...
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you can imagine how touching this was.  On the first transport plane of Chinese troops to Syria. When all the boys started singing:

You just call out my name
And you know wherever I am
I'll come running to see you again
Winter, spring, summer or fall
All you got to do is call
And I'll be there
Yes I will
You've got a friend

I got a little teary.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:35 | 6589183 AlfredNeumann
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ISIS is like Kaiser Sose in ''The Usual Suspects''

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:36 | 6589189 Chuck Knoblauch
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I am Sose.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:59 | 6589907 TheAntiProgressive
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Isis will quit Syria and join the mass Caliphate invasion of Europe and then start trouble there.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:41 | 6589228 rsnoble
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Wow, someone actually serious about getting rid of terrorists.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:44 | 6589238 Teh Finn
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Securing energy and energy routes.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:59 | 6589331 rsnoble
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There was a tidbit of sarcasm in my remark, that could cover a lot of different angles.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:43 | 6589230 Jack Burton
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If true, this proves that Russia and China have arrived on the world scene as actors prepared to act. No, NATO and the USA do not like this at all! It appears Syria is the place Russia and China have decided to act in support of a state, Syria, with whom they are allied. They are sick of NATO and the USA destroying nation after nation. So now we have it, the big showdown. Will official Washington try any bully the Russians and Chinese, bully them to hand over Syria to American rule.

Look at the EU in all this. They have been allied with the USA is destruction of states. Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria, Libya. Let me remind you, even tiny Denmark has send troops to fight with US invasion forces all across the Middle East. Ukraine was onboard too, even though not a NATO nation. Today, EU leaders are sounding unsure, not knowing how to act without US orders. It seems, even Merkel is confused by the Syrian question, now that Russia has decided to enter the game and crush the west's proxy army, ISIS and Al-Qaeda. The EU is under command of Washington, but Washington is taken so off guard by Russian support for Syria, that for now, both EU and USA are trying to decide what to do.

The face off is now full on! For the first time since the end of the USSR, a nation or nations has sent forces to back a friendly state that the USA is engaged in a war against. 

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:57 | 6589298 Chuck Knoblauch
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It all depends on how confident our psycopaths are with the integrity of their underground faclities.

Can they control a limited exchange from underground?

I don't know, but I bet they think they know.

Heck, it may already be pre-planned by all parties involved.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:02 | 6589673 Sturm und Drang
Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:58 | 6589313 Blankone
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Russia has not sent troops other than in a simular fashion of troops at their naval base.  Russia has not sent a squadron of fighters other than what has been typically there for a long time.  Russia has not landed tanks and heavy weapons.  Russia has not fired a shot.  Not one.  Russia has not even supplied Syria (or Iran) with the S-300 as contracted for in 2007.

China has not sent any military to Syria.  They are not even there as technical advisors.  Nothing. 

It is all just in newsprint and on the internet. 

Where is that full expeditionary force from Russia we were promised would be landing in Syria in just days?  From the Sept 2 and 3rd articles.  Nothing but words in articles without any reality.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:16 | 6589412 MadVladtheconquerer
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Check this article out:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2015/09/vlad...

Mr Kaplan is a typical libber-al but he has Mr Putin pegged exactly correct.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:44 | 6589579 Sturm und Drang
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On Slate no less.

Jeebus.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:04 | 6589682 MadVladtheconquerer
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But stuff I've seen cited here from RT and Pravda is ok?  bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Why not DEBKA?

I guess it's ok if it supports one's convoluted beliefs but its blasphemy if it flies in the face of all

one holds dear?

Well, whaddaya know.  Market charging back.  Dow off 47 and SOX about to turn green.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:10 | 6589718 Sturm und Drang
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..."I guess it's ok if it supports one's convoluted beliefs but its blasphemy if it flies in the face of all

one holds dear?"

You're new here, but yes.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:39 | 6589841 Berspankme
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Sounds like you are talking to a mirror

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:04 | 6589678 Element
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Damnit!  I want some proof that nothing happened! Until then, this nothing did happen. You need to focus on conclusively showing that nothing didn't happen, or else you simply have nothing!   :-p 

 

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:46 | 6589583 Element
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It's more likely a weapons delivery they didn't want intercepted.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 16:43 | 6590119 Oldrepublic
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The global power of its day, Great Britain, learned during the Suez War in Egypt in 1956, who the new boss of the planet was, perhaps Syria will be Washington's Suez moment

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 20:16 | 6591106 Freddie
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Germany supposedly was pulling out of USA-ISIS charade - a Rita Katz Zollywood production. 

Right after that - VW gets slammed and German colonel is found dead in N. Iraq hotel in the Kurdish region.

The USSA-Trayvonville has attacked the German auto industri.  The ZUSA-ZATO is at war with European nations.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:45 | 6589243 BurnUnit
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PUBLIC SAFETY ANNOUNCEMENT

 Please see this Today Investigates video titled Fire Protection from yesterday https://www.facebook.com/TheWFSF  

The dangerous and often deadly ionized alarm problem is worldwide as this story reveals, about a 2 year old in Australia who died recently in a house fire because the ionized alarms did not go off while the baby's mother was asleep. This is one of several tragic stories that exposes the fatal flaw of ionized fire alarms.  The Red Cross and endorsers of the Red Cross Fire Safety Preparedness Campaign as well as United Way and other Fire Safety organizations that have knowingly been donating dangerous ionized alarms and installing only ionized detectors in homes despite being informed that these devices have a high failure rate and do not sound alarm in smoldering smoke conditions which has resulted in 10's of 1000's of smoke inhalation deaths and 100's of 1000's of smoke and fire injuries for over 40+ years.  

This information is all documented and can be found at www.smokealarmwarning.org , www.thewfsf.org  and www.firecrusade.com  I urge you to research this ionized alarm fraud which has been going on for over 40+ years which involves the UL, CPSC and NFPA to name just a few. See these documents and video's below which reveal how it came to be that over 90% of all detectors in homes today are ionized despite there being a safer more efficient photoelectric detector and multiple lawsuit against ionized manufactures and one including the UL http://thewfsf.org/ulsued.html .

 DOCUMENTS SEE  http://www.firecrusade.com/documents.htm  

An Engineering Analysis of the Indiana Dunes Tests

'The Role of UL In America's Deadliest Fraud'  

VIDEOS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnlkiZC0dd0   WTHR aquarium test

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwl1biSvTiY  UL-approved smoke alarms may give false sense of security  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrOLxh8GuCU  Rossen Report  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCwTlm8Q8fU  Smoke Alarm Whistleblower Reveals Dirty Secrets  

Six weeks ago I have sent this info to Red Cross Director of Preparedness Initiatives Zach Cahalan who Led the design, development and matrixed implementation of the Home Fire Preparedness Campaign, a collaborative initiative to reduce home fire deaths 25% in 5 years, and The United Way and other fire safety organizations and a letter was sent by Fire Protection Engineer Richard Patton to Red Cross CEO Gail McGovern, all of which have gone unanswered to date, with no changes made to websites relating to their fire safety campaigns, despite a follow up letter and email sent recently as well.

Its time these organizations are held accountable for their negligance and start doing what is right vs what is cheapest when it comes to the safety of the very people they are pretending to protect when it comes to giving away ionized detectors

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:47 | 6589258 AlfredNeumann
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I wonder if Russia will bomb the ISIS movie studio and their 7 foot beheaders.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:58 | 6589312 rsnoble
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Great news for the bankrupt US!!!!  The US can now just do nothing, sit back and relax while ISIS is creamed out of existence.

LMAO, if that were only true.  So does the US decide to allow ruination, or go to war and protect itself, which also ends in ruination but for everyone else as well?

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:07 | 6589363 ross81
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neocons are definetly in the "I'm taking you all down with me" camp

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 19:39 | 6590979 bid the soldier...
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but but but

What about the Qatari pipeline?

The planet will go off its axis without it!

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 13:58 | 6589320 Youri Carma
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Washington’s got an hair on their tongue now and can’t get it off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I6CGBNODaY

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:00 | 6589333 pupdog1
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From Golf Cart One on the 14th hole, Obama issues this statement:

Dealing with a combined Russia, Iran, and now China in Syria ain't nothin'. Try organizing a ghetto in Chicago.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:08 | 6589367 PleasedToMeatYou
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"combined Russia, Iran, and now China in Syria

Sheeeeit, dat ain't nuttin'.  We be giving our ISIS, er, uh moderate Freedom Fighters heat seeking missiles, and real-time access to our satellite intelligence just like dem other Al Qu... er, I mean uh Freedom Fighters in Afragistan.  We be fuckin' em up. 

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:11 | 6589383 Accomplice
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It's about time!

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:22 | 6589461 Joe Tierney
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Maybe we could arrange to invite all ISIS members to Saudi Arabia for a 'Lash the Devil' celebration, and when they're all packed in there, someone could shout "Look! A virgin goat!".

 

In the stampede to get the goat, they'd all kill themselves off, maybe.....

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:33 | 6589523 Keyboard Kommando
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Sounds like China's looking to get "Democratized!"

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:43 | 6589578 Teh Finn
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Alleged future troop movements and everyone gets the vapors that something is actually happening.  Hilarious...

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:52 | 6589614 AlfredNeumann
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China signs deal to buy 300 Boeing aircraft.

 

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/09/24/430510/Boeing-signs-major-deals...

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:55 | 6589634 Sturm und Drang
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...

And after a while, you can work on points for style.
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake,
A certain look in the eye and an easy smile.
You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to,
So that when they turn their backs on you,
You'll get the chance to put the knife in.

 

Pink Floyd - Dogs

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:40 | 6589842 Blankone
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Boeing is a major player of the MIC of the west.  By doing this deal China is supporting the MIC and the US in a major way.

Russia makes passanger jets do they not.  In these times of economic war, major explosions in China, Russia being sanctioned, the ability of the west to take remote control or shut down US made passanger jets why does China make this purchase?

I thought China was totally supportive of Russia.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 22:56 | 6591604 flapdoodle
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If they are paying cash, it means they are dumping the dollar because they know it is going to be worth much less.

Boeing commercial airliners are an easy way to burn off the US treasuries China is holding...

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:53 | 6589630 Salzburg1756
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Wouldn't it be wonderful if they marched into Israel and liberated the Palestinians from their concentration camps, just like our soldiers liberated the joos from their work camps after WW2?

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 14:58 | 6589653 Sturm und Drang
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WHAT?!? Are you fucking nuts? Look at the mileage they got out of the WW2 gig. NEVER AGAIN!

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:04 | 6589659 Lumberjack
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After following a certain renewables concern (UPC) for years, they keep showing up in war zones. Xinjiang China, Morocco and other MENA regions. My confidence level of them being involved with arms, drug and money laundering is quite high. There is a high probability they are involved in this too.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:18 | 6589760 Sturm und Drang
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Governments are going to war, not the corporations they represent. Profits are legislated, stock values redefining "national security". Brave New 1984.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:05 | 6589693 Sizzurp
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I guess we can send all those refugees back to Syria now.  No reason for them to leave anymore.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:06 | 6589700 Lookout Mountain
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Eager to see the US out of the Middle East. Obama is a blessing in disgusise, if he quietly gives way.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:10 | 6589720 AlfredNeumann
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US Blocking Russian Proposal to Sanction ISIL via UNSC

 

The United States is blocking Russia's proposal to include the Islamic State on the UN Security Council's sanctions list as an independent organization, head of the Russian Foreign Ministry's Department for New Challenges and Threats Ilya Rogachev said Thursday.

Read more: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3mgWQf8Dz

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:50 | 6589878 q99x2
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The mid easterners should now know not to talk with CIA and other western agencies lest they be Corzined.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:55 | 6589892 InnVestuhrr
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I don't care what happens in the Middle East, who does what to whom.

What I want to know is:

When are Chinese troops going to start patrolling crime vortexes in the USA, eg Detroit, Chicago, etc ?

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 15:55 | 6589895 TheAntiProgressive
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Once, yet again, for the umteenth time our fantastically expensive intelllegence community is surprised and taken off guard.  (it never is an individual, only a collective)  

This has the smell of the Bamster all the way to the Syrian graveyards he created or saved.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 16:01 | 6589915 Joe A
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China also looking for a deep water port in the MED? Or do they want to unblock the Silkroad that is now blocked at Palmyra by ISIS?

It's getting busy in Syria. Before you know it North Korea shows up.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 16:43 | 6590114 Anunnaki
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How do you like them apples, Peace Prize? You thought you would have a China Pivot and throttle them with your little TPP deal. Now they have a Syrian Pivot and are about to snatch Boeing from you.

Way to go Superfly!

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 16:48 | 6590157 NubianSundance
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Does or does not the mighty Aurora SR 91 exist, billions spent at area 51.

http://youtu.be/7P7ssFbqjbY

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 17:00 | 6590211 pupdog1
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A graphic designer with quite a sense of humor sold the chinese military that camo pattern.

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 19:16 | 6590882 Hope Copy
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TESTING TIME!  I'm sure that there are a few stingers in the field and it is always fun to see what the Israelis have (or will they will stay grounded and off?)...

Fri, 09/25/2015 - 00:09 | 6591722 Fuku Ben
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Since everyone will be in the region it seems like a perfect opportunity for everyone to finally get on the same page and build the biggest cooperative coalition team since the one that forced Saddam out of Kuwait.

After all the goal of everyone is to take out ISIS.

Too bad General Allen bailed out early he could have been the next Norman Schwarzkopf.

Let's hope special interests and individual goals don't prevent this from happening.

Fri, 09/25/2015 - 02:24 | 6591903 talisman
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The conflict in Iraq and Syria is messing
with China's proposed Silk Road

Fri, 09/25/2015 - 08:02 | 6592162 jonjon831983
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It's probably all about getting in some more weapons testing, target practice, and real combat/logistics practice for the Chinese.

Watch the Japanese get in on the game since they've modified their constitution to allow for war - and they need the overseas operations experience as well.  Perfect place since they can cite their two citizens getting executed.

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