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Half Of Americans Think "Government Is An Immediate Threat To Liberty"
Submitted by Mac Slavo via SHTFPlan.com,
Government poses a threat to liberty, that much is clear.
But what may be surprising is that almost half of Americans clearly identified government as a clear and “immediate” threat, and are obviously outraged about what is going on.
Oddly, the number of angry Americans has remained consistent in poll number ever since about 2006 during George W. Bush’s second term, maintaining around 46-49% throughout Barack Obama’s entire presidency.
And yet, things continue to get worse and worse with each political cycle, and each new president.
Gallup reported that:
Almost half of Americans, 49%, say the federal government poses “an immediate threat to the rights and freedoms of ordinary citizens,” similar to what was found in previous surveys conducted over the last five years.
The remarkable finding about these attitudes is how much they reflect apparent antipathy toward the party controlling the White House, rather than being a purely fundamental or fixed philosophical attitude about government.
[…] during the Republican administration of George W. Bush, Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents were consistently more likely than Republicans and Republican-leaning independents to say the federal government posed an immediate threat.
[…] during the Democratic Obama administration, the partisan gap flipped, with Republicans significantly more likely to agree.
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Still, the persistent finding in recent years that half of the population views the government as an immediate threat underscores the degree to which the role and power of government remains a key issue of our time… numerous other measures show that the people give their government some of the lowest approval and trust ratings in the measures’ history.
So why does the situation between the people and government continue to deteriorate?
The complaints about government’s abuse of powers reaches across the isle, and straddles both parties in the White House, yet people tend to direct their anger only at the current president – thus falling for the ruse of blaming the puppet, and not the system.
As Americans shift blame about the state of affairs back-and-forth with every election, most miss the point about why these things are happening – someone is writing reports and creating policies that allow these things to happen. All the Congress and President do is approve them, and deflect attention towards who is running the show.
What are Americans upset about, according to polls?:
Overall, Americans who agree that the government is an immediate threat tend to respond with very general complaints echoing the theme that the federal government is too big and too powerful, and that it has too many laws. They also cite nonspecific allegations that the government violates freedoms and civil liberties, and that there is too much government in people’s private lives.
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perceptions that the government is “socialist,” that the government spends too much, that it picks winners and losers such as the wealthy or racial and ethnic minorities, that it is too involved in things it shouldn’t be and that it violates the separation of powers.
[as well as…]
freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the overuse of police and law enforcement, government surveillance of private citizens including emails and phone records, government involvement in gay marriage issues, overregulation of business, overtaxing, the healthcare law and immigration.
The vast majority of these issues happen under the mis-leadership of both parties, progressing without fail through the years.
It is time that Americans embrace their anger at government, and focus their attention past the politicians to the real problem.
Start with the bankers, follow the money, and see where it goes...
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Bullshit. Not even half of Americans know what Liberty is......
You're just microaggressing again cuz cuz you're a hater! Probably razzzist too. Seatbelts are for your own good, cuz cuz Pajama Boi said so that's why! And and and we need to throw climate skeptics in jail, just shut them all up! And ban guns too, nobody needs guns, we have police to protect us!
If a stawk erection lasts more than four hours call a doctor. Is that a straw? I ordered a steak & a solar panel. I love kittens. Why can't I teleport to work? Dog the Bounty Hunters step-daughter was arrested for robbing a bank, I wonder if she'll skip bail, wouldn't that be cool?
Ok, the Kardashians are on and Caitlyn Jenner has a new line of strap ons he's gonna show off, I'm out ;-)
And men who don't like dck are haters as are the white women who don't like black dck. Life is simple in Babylon, just close your eyes and pray to darkness and curse the light.
Rainbow Warriors unite! Strike down the infidel untruthiness sayer! ;-)
The only terrorist that I know of in USSA is Nmewn!
You all know it but you're afraid to confront him.
In one way of thinking, why yes, I suppose I am and I think they all know it Abdullah Doo.
My Bucket List involves getting my my name on as many shit lists as I can before I die.......
Mine too, however you've got a little work to do to catch up to me tho...lol.
You really need to pick out one of these doofus trolls that stroll through here and tear him a new asshole, it'll be good for at least six months of one down tick per comment.
Come on, live a little ;-)
I had a fan for awhile but I neglected him/her/it and it starved to death. Those things need lots of attention, lol......
Yeah...but those things are priceless sometimes ;-)
I'm schooling you on how to collect downvotes with a post in the 'lumbering' thread next door, lol......
Wup, lemme see watz up...maybe I can pick up some pointers...
Amen brother!
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Some old school New Orleans grindcore with some lyrics that seem,well, like you wrote them.
Having 6 EBT cards, 4 baby momas each with a Sectuon 8 crib!
That's capital "L", Lib-er-TEE fo Me! Steak and lobster every night! God Bless America!
The survey deals with government as a perceived threat and it is clear, since 2003, that perception has grown by 19 points from 30% to 49%.
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So why does the situation between the people and government continue to deteriorate?
TAXES. Duh... Keep raising taxes whilst the roads look like shit and the schools seem to be getting worse and that is the nexus of all government distrust.
Nonsense!!!! - the taxes were higher in 1955 - do some homework!
Washington DC is a clear and present danger to the Constitution & more importantly the Bill of Rights- that is the epi center of the danger to all citizens
The Clinton Bush Establishment Party and the Puppet oBama are "part" of organized crime -and must eliminated from control of the system for world peace and all good americans
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I think you missed the point. In 1955 the roads were good and the schools excellent.
and we were not giving free shit to assholes to sit around all day and piss and maon and how hard they have it
In 1955 my dad tells me you could walk the streets in America safely at night. Hard to believe.
#bringbacksafestreets
#throwthusginjail
Very wrong on the roads, at least.
Bush and Clinton were boy scouts compared to this current crop of racists and thugs.
Lesser of two evils, yada, yada…. As long as the wife cheats with the little dickey guy, it’s all is good. LOL
The Big Problem TPTB have with Americans is simple: We have all been steeped in the ideas of self-determination, trust in government, we can all rise to the top if we just work hard enough, etc. Of course, that's malarkey but very helpful to keep all those noses to all those grindstones for all those years.
The Big Problem is no one told Americans it was all for laughs. The joke is on TPTB...WE BELIEVED IT. And because we believed it, we will get more and more pissed the more and more we see it was a joke played on us.
We aren't a nation of peasants who have 400 years behind us of working for an overlord for a scrap of bread. We WERE TRAINED to believe in the lies. And when Americans find out they were lied to at this level, things will not go well for those seen to be the liars.
It's why they want all the guns. They know if they don't get their hands on them it is only a matter of time before they get to play Czar and Czarina.
Let the play begin.
It's not a "Government." It's an illigitimate Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. posing as a functional "Government" of the people, for the people & by the people.
1871
I bet a significant percentage of the 51% who said 'no,' were just too afraid to say 'yes.'
Nah..... they're just brain dead.
It is becoming more obvious to more people, but those with any influence are still far too comfortable to take any action, especially if it might upset their own place in the system. We have a long way to go before this changes, unless something happens to cause a sudden collapse, or some huge bombshell discovery of corruption....like definitive proof of government's involvement in 9/11 or the banks colluding to blow up the economy. There will have to be a major spark to get the fire going.
When local governments start cutting police positions and pay due to crumbling economy and inability of tax payers to keep funding them…then all hell will break loose.
Bankers? But, they don't take my liberty, they offer me loans. Most americans don't know what freedom or slavery really is.
You ever heard the term: "Debt Slaves"? How do you think they keep the sheeple on the plantation??? They're not bankers. They are bwankers, and they are the nexus of evil. Even Jesus had something to say about these money effing changers. Whip them with scourges, topple their tables, and chase them from the temple. Start reading some of these articles and do some research.
Ok, rant off,,,
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OBTW: And you are right. Most United Statesians don't konw what hunger, freedom, or slavery is.
TuPhat - It is soft slavery. Over time with this model your compelled to take more loans as inflation outstrips wages for most earners.
Yes, an improvement over hard slavery but not good enough. Now, leadership has done some things right or no way could population grow from 2B to 7B in 100 years.
However, part of the job of representative is taking heat for commonly shared problems and imperfections. It isnt to declare yourself god, loot the people and tell them to shut up or they get dungeons or executed (NDAA). Todays elite are skating on very thin ice.
The French thought they were undefeatable until English longbowmen showed up.
That statistic is correct in my experience. 1/2 my friends and acquaintances know government is a threat, the other half are too busy with work, kids and Dancing with the Stars to bother with becoming educated the corruption. Until they loose their jobs or the banks close, that other 50% will keep their head in the sand.
I hear you. There is plenty of denial, and just plain exhaustion,
but the kleptocrats are doing very well, and there has never been a better time to be an illegal alien. Just ask Barry Soetoro.
Follow the narcissists and ego's and you will find the blood trail to the money.
From there you can throw a stone and hit most every politician.
They are selling our freedom for illegal alien and imported islamic tyrannical votes.
Dull the executioners axe
Did they poll 50 people in Texas for that number?
They poll by phone. That time you didn't answer the old land line phone you missed the chance to let your opinions be known.
^This^! The only land line(s) I have left are my biz lines.
I literally never answer those.
Between the telemarketers and the pollsters with their loaded questions... I ain't got time for that shit!
Yeah, and 50 on the east coast who love the government and especially busybodies who think they're smarter than everyone else and have the God given right (where have we heard that before?) to tell us lessers how to live. And pass laws that require enforcement by armed thugs. Again, for our own good.
Ok Mr Liberaldogooder. I promise to wear my seatbelt, not talk on my cell while driving, never drink a beer with dinner because MADD, to always have my papers in order, to keep my firearms 'safely stored' so I cannot defend myself, and just basically, by force of law, defer to your better judgment even though you are thousands of miles from me.
Thank you for your leadership.
Now fuck off.
Gadsden, CSA Battle flag. They mean the same thing: Get off my motherfucking lawn statist.
The other half of Americans *are* the government.
and/or the free shit army aka gimmedats.
Several of which appear to be here tonight.......
The banksters took over the government. I suggest the military take over the banksters and then we only one enemy to fight--YeeeeeeeHaaaaaaa--the military.
This is somehow bad? The only thing bad about it is that not enoigh people see the gov as a threat. I can only hope we reached the middle of the pendulum swing and are heading back to where we belong - where America started, where all people hate the gov and want to be left alone.
My problem is what the hell does the other half think the government is?
Nice question. Most think it is their friend, protector and very necessary. Apart from a million police agencies with a billion pages of rules we would all descend into the abyss and become Somalia.
They also believe in the genius of government wether it is the Fed, government regulating trade or telling auto engineers how they need to do things.
You wrote almost verbatim what I intended to post when I read this.
The glass are half full of all your not paying attention.
The other half believes that government is a free place to live, EBT cards and free Obama phones.
You are correct in the Obama criticism, but unfortunately when your guy gets in you will be blind. Hence the point of the article, and you are part of the problem.
I don't have a "guy". In fact, I won't vote in any more federalal elections. That is the definition of insanity by believing that you can change the federal government by voting. Only the state legislatures can change the federal government by amending it out of existence thru an Article V Convention.
Their greatly-desired provider of bread and circuses. And because that's how democracy works, that's why they will still run the show.
They are too busy organizing Pray for the Police rallies and Support Our Troops Facebook campaigns to get involved with something as inconsequential as the constitutional recognition of natural rights and the occassional necessity to execute tyrants to preserve liberty.
Two words:
civil and forfeiture .
I'm still amazed at the number of people who are afraid that if the state legislatures call an Article V Convention to strip the Federal government of it's usurped powers is a bad thing.
I'm still amazed there are people who think rolling the dice on the battered shield of what few liberties we still possess is peachy. What you will do by calling a constitutional convention is exactly what terrorists do when they set a series of secondary bombs to go off once the original wave brings the first responders: you will make it infinitely easier to concentrate blackmail, corruption, fear, greed and sundry blunt objects on those assembled to subvert the process and deliver us over to our enemies.
You want to make a huge difference in the federal government? Quit voting in the national elections and start working like hell to make sure your state legislature understands what the 10th Amendment is for...and isn't afraid to use it.
Half Of Americans Think "Government Is An Immediate Threat To Liberty"
BECAUSE IT IS
Start with the bankers, follow the money, and see where it goes...
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/02/09/166/
911 means our government is run by insane people and a bunch of bureaucrats, including our officer corps, willing to go along with anything to get to retire and a pension.
Having served as a military officer for 20 years, and that a long time ago, I can attest that you are correct. Even in those better times the actions of most officers were dictated by "Get promoted and retire with a pension." It's only worse, now.
A sobering, well-written article you linked to. The implications are serious and point to bad times ahead.
I'm not sure why people are so afraid to say they don't believe the government's story on 911. It is incontrovertible logic that the story is false. I can prove it in a few simple steps.
With these simple steps, it can be shown, no matter what the actual facts are, what the government said is a lie. Ergo, there is no conspiracy theory slur that can be maintained when one says there is an ongoing government cover-up and their narrative is a lie.
Case closed.
"I'm not sure why people are so afraid to say they don't believe the government's story on 911."
Cognitive dissonance.
By any sane criteria, 9/11 was a very major act of terrorism in the United States. Everything has changed since 9/11.
If john doe were to discover that this event was carried out by criminals at the highest levels inside government involving foreign powers, and was then covered up by their own government, it would bring the house down. The status quo would be untenable. Meaning that if the government can carry out such a massive act of terrorism against its own people, what other huge lies and cover-ups is it perpetrating?
This frightens people which is why they avoid wanting to know the truth. "Fear of the unknown" takes control.
You can apply the same mental process to very many other situations in life. People will accept lies because it's less painful than knowing the truth.
But it's impossible for the country to go back. 911 was murder by our bankster run government and so was the Lusitania. The difference now is that no one conceived the connection in 1915, but probably 30% do now
"Half Of Americans Think "Government Is An Immediate Threat To Liberty"
Only half?
The other half must be asleep.
Only half? No wonder we're so fucked.
"Half Of Americans Think "Government Is An Immediate Threat To Liberty""
Only half?
The government in bed with the banksters lie about inflation, unemployment and back-door bank bailouts.
They steal from their citizens to enrich the 1%.
the government has been oppresive for a very long time. It only progresses from bad, to worse, to horrible to totally ghastly.
the government has been oppresive for a very long time. It only progresses from bad, to worse, to horrible to totally ghastly.
I don't believe for a minute that rebellious sentiments are brewing, only that a huge number of people haven't found a petty, superficial replacement for the current emperor's failed hope/change platitudes. The major driver behind the discontent has more to do with the popularity of cop-abuse stories and videos or school system regulations that create stupid disciplinary outcomes. Most people are still ardent believers in the cult of .gov, they just don't like the sentiments associated with some .gov behavior.
A small percentage of the population gets it and they are labeled as the enemy.
The people love government.
Detroit is making a comeback – in the “surveillance zones”.
24-hour recorded video monitoring and ‘Shot Spotter’ electronics are being placed everywhere.
Links, Please.
You can take the bunny out of the jungle, but you cannot take the jungle out of the bunny.
650 permit , two inspections, one during and one on completion. To install a same size 1900 dollar patio door as a replacement product . 250 refundable on passing inspection. AMERIKA. Welcome to the remodeling business in 2015. We lost money on the job
When the shit hits the fans and government thugs go on the run, it will be the permit Nazis and local tax collectors running the fastest.
They'll have to outrun the DSS/CPS if they don't want to be 'the slow one that gets eaten by the bear' if you know what I mean.
FUCK YEAH!
It's called Excess Scoring of US consumers, new executive order called "Behavioral Science Insights" says the government knows what's best. I had to laugh at some journalist over at Forbes expanding on this. The White House said they figure out new wording and time for emails send to those who have education loans...well crap, companies have been doing this and changing things for years, but now..now she called it taking advantage of "Behavioral Science Insights"..what a crock, this is not science as she perceived.
In the real clinical world there is behavioral Science, but when geek crack numbers, that's what it is. In the data world, we have habits, trending, and number crunches, not flipping Behavioral Insights Science. Seriously, the Executive Order gave cart blanch for all the banks and companies to harvest and sell your data as long as the government gets some of it...what they used to create this executive order that creates excess scoring on US consumers for profit. The media spreads this crap as well as I pointed out with the Forbes article.
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2015/09/excess-scoring-of-us-consumers-us.html
I travelled for months hrough the US in the late sixties and marvelled at how slim and fit the women were and how efficiently everything worked, from car repairs to distribution of products. All that collapsed after 9/11 to men with guns and cameras defending buildings against imaginary attacks. Fear is a wonderful weapon to wield to wave over the gullible. The women, since Big Pharma and Big Agro have taken over have turned into cows.
I travelled for months hrough the US in the late sixties and marvelled at how slim and fit the women were and how efficiently everything worked, from car repairs to distribution of products. All that collapsed after 9/11 to men with guns and cameras defending buildings against imaginary attacks. Fear is a wonderful weapon to wield to wave over the gullible. The women, since Big Pharma and Big Agro have taken over, have turned into cows.
You know what the greatest threat to liberty is in America today? Manspreading. ~50% of the population is male, and men manspread...EVERYWHERE. You just can't take up as much space as you like because you think you got to keep your gonads at some specific temperature to ensure that your gametes are viable. Sure reproduction is a naturalistic imperative, but your manspreading is destroying trust is all public spaces. The nation doesn't need your sweaty smelly thighs angled out like you are a water molecule. Manspreading isn't a micro-agression. No No No, it is a MACRO-Agression. We need to demand safe spaces, where manspreading is both banned and instantly punishable. Safe spaces where we can be free from the hetero-normative paternalistic scourge of manspreading. Trigger warnings just won't cut it. Once you have been exposed to manspreading, which is an absolute OUTRAGE, the offense is done. There needs to be a law! Maybe we could hire some of the poor unemployed in this great nation to scour America's public spaces for manspreading and just cut it off before it becomes the horrible public nuisance that it festers into when unchecked. Maybe they could be armed with electricly charged wands to get those legs to snap shut, and then issue a fine based on what the angle of the manspread was. Any manspread angle over 90 and the fine should at least double.
Yeah, male privilege is everywhere. Men should always sit down on a toilet to pee, and for God's sake, tuck your cock and stuff your balls when you travel in public.
the fem is strong in this one...
Upvote.
This what your .gov has been up to...U.S. Interventions - 1945 to the Present William Blum
What would make you think they will not treat their own people this way?
err since when Land of Kardhasian Ass has liberty??
In my area, there apparently isnt enough .gov tyranny, b/c people insist on living in HOAs where some retiree gets his jollies out of cruising around with a 30-min hourglass, literally timing people whose garage door is open. 31 minutes? $100 citation. Doesnt matter if you are working on your car at the time, doesnt matter if it's Saturday. You leave your damn garage door open more than 30 minutes, you get fined. The take-away here is that the people WANT the tyranny. Time for a purge where we (once again) separate the exceptional from everyone else.
When you are free to spend your money as you choose, your freedom is proportional to your wealth.
No money, no freedom.
school district in Mercer Island WA bans the game of tag during recess. Children need to keep hands to themselves to respect others privacy. AMERIKA. Think locally,, act globally. Whirled Peas. War is not the Answer. Yada, Yada, Yada.
Its for the children,,, don't cha know? Keep one eye on your bobber people.