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Watch The Latest Russian War Preparations In Syria: Satellite Imagery Update
Over the course of the last several weeks, Europe’s worsening migrant crisis and Russia’s stepped up military support for Bashar al-Assad’s forces at Latakia have conspired to wake the entire world up to Syria’s protracted civil war.
The interesting thing about Russia’s involvement is the extent to which Moscow’s approach to the conflict differs from The Kremlin’s handling of the crisis in Ukraine.
Whereas Putin has steadfastly refused to admit the scope of Russia’s support for the separatists at Donetsk, he’s made no secret of Moscow’s intentions in Syria.
Note the extent to which that assessment differs from Washington’s official line. While the US insists (loudly) that it cannot discern what Russia’s intentions in Syria are, The Kremlin has been remarkably (and uncharacteristically) clear. Put simply, Russia intends to bolster the army of its ally Bashar al-Assad against any and all anti-regime elements operating inside Syria and because some of those anti-regime elements happen to be extremists, Russia is effectively waging a war on terror by default. No mystery there.
However, because the US needs to buy time to figure out the best way to navigate an impossibly complex situation whereby Washington will either need to join its two fiercest foreign policy critics (Russia and Iran) in destroying Syrian rebels that in some cases were trained and supported by the Pentagon or else stand aside as the Russians do in a matter of months what the US air force has failed to achieve over the course of more than a year, The White House pretends to be completely confused about Putin’s intentions. This charade has piqued the public’s interest in Russia’s “mysterious” military buildup.
Having said all of that, one should of course approach any and all "evidence" of Russia's maneuvers with an appropriate amount of skepticism because, as we noted earlier this month, things like satellite images purporting to show just what Russia is doing and where in Syria "are the modern equivalent of Colin Powell's vial of WMDs presented to the United Nations in 2003 to justify the war with Iraq."
It's with all of the above in mind that we present the latest images that allegedly show the extent to which Russia is preparing for war from Bashar al-Assad's seaside stronghold.
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Oh hurry up already Magog! Zee pop gold is getting stale.
So, lemme get it straight...The Syrian images we CAN show, but the satellite images from Ukraine, where the Boeing was shot down, we CANNOT?
Looney
P.S. Boing-Boing… Boeing-Boeing… ;-)
Could it be that MH17 flight recordings, tower transcripts and satellite data is unavailable because they would show that MH17was another CIA inspired false flag designed to hurt Russia?
Naw, our government would never do that... we all know that Osama Bil Laden from a cave directed 19 saudis to defeat the most sophisticated air defense system in the world, even making building 7 magically implode, LOL>
@Latina Lover: They can't show the satellite data simply because this plane MH17 was shot down with a missile by the CIA's tools by mistake. It was an assassination attempt against Putin who flew over the exact same hotzone 15 mins earlier returning home from meeting with BRICS members in Brazil. Putin's plane is similar in colors - the missile hit the civilian aircraft instead while the assassination attempt against Putin failed!
Start the sorties on ISIS targets already! This is better than Sunday football
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-24/obamas-isis-czar-steps-down-mis...
My guess is things are about to go sideways and the czar does not want to be blamed.
So, the more Roooshun soldiers pour into Syria, the more Syrian hooker demand.
Got be a special type to service those Rooskie boys. So told that Rooskies like to make out with their hookers.
Uh huh. Bio-warfare afoot, Watson!
so far as I have seen it is AA batteries, trainers and a few pilots.
No more than 'nam
https://books.google.com/books?id=3ZU2cZ8EU6MC&pg=PA157&lpg=PA157&dq=sov...
Are those the inflatable Su-27s or the real thing?
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/07/article-1264317-0908F805000005DC-362_634x286.jpg
It has to be real ones, right? Russia would never use deception, nor would America!
Nobody parks airplanes on a RUNWAY!
WHERe are the SHADOWS?
THIS IS BULLSHIT!
YES!
That's pretty good. NO SHADOWS. PARKED PLANES ON THE RUNWAY. Excellent spotting!
I'm waiting for the daughter of an Isreali ambassador to start talking about how the Russians are taking the babies out of the incubators and leaving them to die.
Photoshopping tech must be getting better since the realease of Obama's 'birth certificate' (but the people doing it are getting dumber).
The Il-76 has a shadow while the SU24s next to it (and which would have been hit by it as it taxied into position) don't have shadows. Even inflatable decoys should have shadows but maybe these are the flat cardboard one that can only be seen from the air. You can taxi right over them.
They say a week is a short time in politics, and boy that is the truth.
3 weeks ago: Australia declared the existence of ISIS in Syria to be such a threat that we must break all international laws regarding sovereign integrity and launch a military invasion of Syria to hunt them down.
2 weeks ago: Australia began air operations in Syrian air space. We hinted that we would need to put boots on the ground.
6 days ago: Russian military hardware and personnel arrived in Syria at the request of the Syrian government.
3 days ago: That Russian hardware was used in an overwhelmingly successful strike on the "ISIS capital" killing between 300 and 800 ISIS fighters and leadership members.
Today: Australia says that there can be no military strategy to solve the "civil war" and demanded that a diplomatic solution be found.
Putin to Abbott: You call that shirtfronting? This is shirtfronting.
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/shirtfronting...
It's between 11:30am - 12:30pm you can tell by the shadow thrown off the nose of the Ilyushin. Why? because it's 25 feet off the ground.
Watch 'em land it, smooth and stable. Nice bird.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a--Jfm2rpFQ
If they are net covered, the shadow would ne minimal. Also note the north arrow in the images and the lack of shadow from the shipping containers and radar dome.
Photo was taken near noon.
McCormick,
you're wrong. and that runway's long enough to accomodate the largest cargo aircraft. the areas surrounding the runway and facilities show the scars of recent and heavy activity. the helo pads look like they were freshly laid. they would have to be towed to those locactions on the side (because helos aren't agile when taxiing), and they are then towed back to lift off from the runway. everything else could park on the side of the runway, taxi out and have plenty of room for lift-off.
Q: "where are the shadows?"
A: in the last place you look.
janus
Why would a helicopter need to be towed to a runway to take off? One of the great advantages of a helicopter is the capability to take off and land on a pad.
larger ones have retractable landing gear. and it's more an advantage in taking-off. they make very wide turns on the tarmac and are therefore towed into position when space is tight.
The big one has a shadow under the left wing, but the two SU on the same picture looking pretty dubious to me.
Russia would never use deception, nor would America!
Perish the thought!
Actually, during Desert Storm, there was a lot of ordinance expended on plywood and canvas "SCUD Launchers" amongst other things ;)
... and if you've never seen the documentary called "The Ghost Army" (find it on Netflix, Amazon Prime, PBS, etc) it's well worth the time.
when the expectation is deception, in-your-face facts are the most inscrutable of fictions. the cobwebs connecting and occluding amorica's duplicity are so thick and ubiquitous as to make simple candor a strategy singular genius.
putin simply out-classes our current strategic brain-trust.
i'm taking these photos at face value; and i do so because i'm fundamentally suspicious, but my suspicions are subordinate to my interests in strategy and motive -- so if the question of qui bono isn't satisfied with the calculus of suspicion, i tend to believe my lying eyes. and the way i see it, putin is simply applying the principal of inverses in an era of peak duplicity; yielding -- and much yet to yield -- of all the strength and benefits potential in deception's obtuse proportions upon reversal. the intrepid slav has brilliantly positioned himself as a rational actor of candor and integrity in an era of pervasive and even cavalier fraud by uncle sam. now, myopic baby-boomers, whether or not you're willing to accept the fact that the whole of the world perceives amorica to be a swollen leviathan of deceit and fraud, it is indeed the case. and here we see putin "letting his yes be his yes and his no his no."
absolutely remarkable.
and this is just an air support base, which is to say, in support of a full-scale ground offensive that's glowing orange and about to be stoked white-hot. isis and that rag-tag gaggle of fags is about to see what advanced militaries can do when they operate out in the open...we call it modern war-fare; and this web o' lies isis bull-shit is about to get scrubbed -- brutally.
we're about to abandon ship in syria (and possibly iraq...depending on how incompetent these obama appointed imbeciles at cent-com really are -- but don't fret, Hedgers, we now have a gay secretary of the army, so it's all good; cause queers are like superior or something; and for them competence is an afterthought; being 'fabulous' is, after all, the path to glory). we know isis is doomed, and they'll be sealed in by the kurds in the easut, without any hope of making it to turkey; and putin can easily seal-off the hatch to iraq before they even flinch in that direction. putin will give us enough time to withdraw our boys. netanyahoo just got through begging for some forbearance for his own. and once a few asset are withdrawn, russias gonna sweep in with a ferocious velocity and a terrific show of coordinated force...this won't last more than a week, and the russians will give no quarter. expect a lot of fatalities and a lot of confessions of western support in live broadcast confessions of these twisted savages...along with tons of substantiating proof.
we're not going to be able to spin our way out of this one...pax americana's only hope is to somehow plausibly deny our direct involvement with these animals in the minds of cnn and fox viewers.
this is effectively blunt-force trauma to our near-east force projection.
this is fuckin humongous, gentlemen.
in case you didn't know, there's a nuclear sub sitting right off he coast of syria....this is far bolder than anything in ukraine...this is very-very-very big. i'm just now allowing myself to comprehend the magnitude of what's so rapidly materialized. first it was a few S-300 mobile SAMs and some third generation missiles affixed to syrian migs, a few 'trainers' (spetznaz) on the ground and ...now we see mid range fighters, close combat fighters (looks like some russian A-10s), air refueler, troop transport/attack helicopters, hardened troop transport, hardened fuel storage....and only a single tank. i'd guess that forward units and resources to be at least 3X (in terms of physical assets) and many multiples more in man-power. russia's taking full lead on this,,,the syrian army will play a supporting role -- mainly in artillary and such-like; but putins all-in. this is no bluff; and it's already a go. there's no stopping this.
ww3 is here. uncle sam may not address this directly; but if he fails to check putin on some other front and send him scalding like a dog with tail humbly tucked, it's gonna embolden lots and lots of 'folks' in the world of international real-politik.
goddamit, ZHealots!!! shit is about to go green (and red) all over.
anyway, back to the matter of deceptions. look over there in syria and don't look a my left hand as i pull a rabbit out of oman -- you know, that 'little horn' in the persian gulf, right at the choke-point. i mean, really, what's an operation in yemen worth if you don't get an oman out of it?
and oman's like, what, 95% shia? north and south yemen...ain't that something?
what i wouldn't pay to be a fly (that spoke farsi) on the wall in some palace outside of tehran, or in st. petersberg for that matter.
oh what a tangled web we weave when at first we practice to deceive.
so, there you go guys, you didn't get your super-smetiah market-crash nor vaporizing meteor...just a measly little ole initiation of the great war of armegeddon. you fuckers are so goddam ungrateful. how dare you fear-porn addicts be disappointed?!? this is the point in game theory where the principal particpants abandon all pretense of mutual interest.
but, look, lets hold off on the nukes...okay? this is war; so let's keep it civilized, shall we?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3yCcXgbKrE
merry shmetiah, bitchez!,
janus
The Amish read ZH because of this guy -->janus.
+1000 buggy whips.
"being 'fabulous' is, after all, the path to glory"
Hey. It worked for the Nazis.
thanks janus, well thought. i mucho appreciate your take on the situation.
somehow honesty works out best....
Very interesting analysis.
Not sure what you mean by nuclear sub. A few with cruise missiles would be useful (Russian Tomahawks) but a there is no way a Russian Nuclear Missile sub is in the area, no need and it would be too vulnerable, they love the dark depths in the oceans.
Lots gay rooskies down votin the knuckster , who knew that many were here on zh
Just the fact that the Russians are showing up is causing at least three contested areas to negotiate for a cease fire. I imagine after the first week of a real Russian air campaign there will be many more looking for a "diplomatic" solution.
don't want to kill our own guys do we ?
Cali, I have heard that the MH17 take-down was an attempt to assassinate Putin. Do you have any links to support this theory? Thank You.
The only one who can assassinate Putin is Charlie Rose.
It was mentioned on RT about an hour after the plane crashed. But it looked like a weird and bogus propaganda/distraction attempt.Though the planes look similiar, the plane routes were nowhere near, nor in time nor place. I guess they just wanted to place doubt in first impression that the rebels shot down the plane.
I agree.
But shooting down a passanger jet to terminate Putin begs the question whether the FSB knew there would be an attempt on Putin, so it put out the story that Putin was on MH17.
This was not a impulsive act by Poroshenko. The CIA had to be involved.
The investigation has been a joke. We'll find out what kind of criminal Rutte is in less than 3 weeks.
The Tsar and his family were murdered on July 17, 1918, so that would be an anniversary. (The bolshevik takeover of Russia was also Wall Street funded, so not entirely irrelevant.) Very left field, there're some other odd numerical coincidences in this tragedy. Which would suggest it wasn't an impulsive act at all (and also not an accident), but pre-planned and there must be quite a few insiders to it outside of Ukraine, and it was likely conducted by the same criminal circles that are responsible for other big false flag/terrorist acts.
I'm afraid, like Kennedy's assassination, we will never know what really happened.
MH17 and Putin's state plane had similar colors. But Putin's must have flown east out of Germany while MH17 flew south-east into Poland and then Ukraine. Air traffic in Kiev must have known MH17 was what it was purported to be from the dialogue and language of the Malaysian pilot and the plane's transponder.
Still it was ordered to fly south toward the Black Sea over the combat zone where it was shot down.
Did Ukraine believe Putin was on board? Probably not.
Did the CIA construct an elaborate 'false flag' and wantonly take the lives of 300 innocents to make Russia and Putin look bad? Probably.
What confused me was an interview I saw on youtube with Kolomoisky who said (English translation) "we shot down the wrong plane.", which implies that the downing of MH17 was impulsive.
And throws everyone off the tract of the DELIBERATE, PREMEDITATED MURDER OF 300 INNOCENTS TO GAIN THE UPPER HAND IN A DISPUTE WITH ANOTHER POWERFUL NATION.
that is what these sociopaths and sychopaths do everyday .
"@Latina Lover: They can't show the satellite data simply because this plane MH17 was shot down with a missile by the CIA's tools by mistake. It was an assassination attempt against Putin who flew over the exact same hotzone 15 mins earlier returning home from meeting with BRICS members in Brazil. Putin's plane is similar in colors - the missile hit the civilian aircraft instead while the assassination attempt against Putin failed!"
Interesting hypothesis.....can you provide any links to your sources for this conclusion. It does have, at least to me, a certain ring of possible validity given the assasination attempts and sucesses record of the CIA against foreign heads of state not kowtowing to the hegemons orders.
Ask & ye shall receive.
https://www.rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/
I appreciate the link but, gotta say, those planes look nothing alike other than wings. But not alot of similarity even there, not that I can see.
wtf you must be blind. or sarc
If the Amish were going to down a plane we'd send in Lebanon Levi. He'd lock on to the transponder signal. But we do shit like this correct so as to avoid mistakes and stuff.
Did they check the painting of the plane by hubble, or some earth bound telescope?
Hmmm cali thats a possible scenario, but how about two birds with one stone , punish Malaysia (again!) for War Crime Trials and blame them eeevil Ruskies for attacking European civilians (majority Dutch passengers) thus causing 911 type outrage and enabling Euro/NATO troop deployment to Ukie
Putin was at a BRIC summit in Fortaleza, Brazil, a direct great circle flight to Moscow's VKO airport would take his plane over Spain,France, Switzerland, Germany, the Czech Republic, Poland, Belarus and Russia, not over Ukraine!
Ukraine just forbid flyover by Russians. Now we can expect new missile shots!
Guys, pls go and check the thread and the comment you all are replying to! It`a Mess. Fighting over Fake Crumbs that is!
Well I sure as HELL can't discern what USA's intentions are...
Second that
"....Well I sure as HELL can't discern what USA's intentions are...."
I can. It's simple. "Power and Chaos"
<-----smacks forehead.
My bad.
For some reason ZH's economic analysis is spot on, then it goes full retard when talking about Russia, as though it were some peaceful, incorruptable government of benevolence.
Comparing the airfield to to MH17? Seriously? Could it be that it's a lot harder for a satellite data to track a plane going hundreds of miles per hour, versus an airfield that stays in the same spot?
Syria has no export Su-27s or Su-30s, let alone a Su-30MKM or Su-30SM (disintguishable by canard foreplanes). Then you have the obvious color scheme of 368th Assault Aviation Regiment from Budyonnovsk on the Su-25s. It's a no brainer, except for the tin-hat, anti-semetic, conspiratorial ZH crowd.
You looking for a potato?
Russia wants isis under un sanctions so that no one supply them arms but you know what happened ? US blocked it . It happened twice now. If they get sanctioned then how US or its ally will supply weapons (airdrop) to destroy Syria.
http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150924/1027456504.html
US blocked it because they might send weapons to Palestine to fight the filthy joos!
interesting. FACEBOOK tries to block this link. had to copy and paste from facebook fail page
"Could it be that it's a lot harder for a satellite data to track a plane going hundreds of miles per hour, versus an airfield that stays in the same spot?"
No.
- guy who used to call in airstrikes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sukhoi_Su-30SM_inflight.jpg
obvious color scheme of a Russian regiment, eh?
Wow, you must be an expert.
http://theaviationist.com/2015/09/20/su-30sm-exposed-on-the-ground-latakia/
why aren't you supporting Russia against ISIS? Terrorist sympathiser?
First of all I think Obama is a disaster when it comes to handling Syria, and Russia is doing the right thing by backing Assad. My point is that it's pretty obvious that Russia has sent military personnel to Syria, and this wholesale dismissal of satellite photos showing Russian, non-export variants of a Su-30 as being fake is beyond stupid. So is citing this http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150924/1027456504.html article (because Russia espouses freedom of press, amirite?)--the key part of that piece is Ilya saying "under various pretexts." It's being blocked because the U.S. doesn't want all rebels to be branded as ISIS, because they believe there are moderate Islamic rebels in the mix. Even though there are there's no clear dilineation between them and ISIS, making it stupid foreign policy on the US's part. Nonetheless, the article is grossly misleading, which is par for the course for Russian media.
All the saber rattling comes down to I think a Shiite vs Sunni (read: Saudi Arabia) power struggle. Saudi wages a proxy battle using Isis to destabilize a Shiite stronghold, Syria. Saudi pressures the US to be on board, so the U.S. ends up in an awkward position of opposing Assad who's fighting ISIS, making the US an indirect supporter of ISIS. Putin backs the Shiite side of oil, puts boots on the ground to force Obama to negotiate. All the while Putin comes across as the one taking the initiative of fighting terrorists, making Obama look feeble and passive. On that note, Putin runs rings around Obama, and I think that's why relations are strained with Russia--it's our president's bruised ego.
US foreign policy, both open and covert, has been destructive to the masses, and counter to the stated objectives. I wonder if there is any way repair the damage done better than withdrawing from all places, militarialy and financially, and keeping our opinions to ourselves.
The Russians aren't ten feet tall. They got their asses handed to them in Afghanistan. Their technology has never won when matched against Western technology. What makes you think that Stingers aren't going to magically appear in the hands of ISIS?
Stingers and TOWs are already there.
The Russians have among the best computer programmers in the world which is what drives modern weapons systems. The USA in teh defense industry uses a lot of H-1Bs from India writing shitty code for the F-35 which has about 10 million lines of software code that still has not been debugged.
You also have far more corrupt US military defense contractors today chruning out shit built by Teamsters union labor. I like the Russians chances against Trayvon America,
Russians are great computer programmers when it comes to hacking shit. Building actual products that people want, not so much. Also, you need to be a US citizen with a clearance to develop software on defense projects. Indian H-1B won't cut it.
"Building actual products that people want, not so much."
We're not talking consumer goods here!
"Also, you need to be a US citizen with a clearance to develop software on defense projects"
I feel so much better now!
The company that gets the contract are citizens..Maybe fresh ones from India, who then farm it out back to the mother ship.
http://cis.org/miano/ibm-cost-difference-too-great-business-not-look-h-1...
This is the IBM hiring manager's complete response to the American IBM employee's application (The IBM employee provided translations of acronyms that I have indicated in square brackets.):
Thank you for your interest in the eBusiness Analyst position on the Alcatel-Lucent account. We are in the process of gathering resumes for this position and will send you a follow-up response once we have had an opportunity to review your qualifications.
Please understand the clients first preference is IGSI [IBM Global Services India] landed resource, then local US candidates, then remote, so these candidates will be in the second group to be considered. (sic)
This manager was forcing Americans to get in line for jobs behind "landed resources" from IBM India. In case you are wondering — yes, this is illegal. See 8 USC § 1324B.
re: Russians are great computer programmers when it comes to hacking shit
so that explains why US astronauts have to hitch rides these days on Russian rockets to the International Space Station
Excellent analysis, agree on all points but would add it is more than an ego. It is simply the man has zero experience in anythng that natters, except telling lies and schmoozing anybody necesaary . He really is a dumb ass MOFO who was simply a community orrganizer and a freeloader on the black dime victim mantra for 40 fucking years. So now he has been playing with the big boys for almost 7 years and every motherfucking thing this dumb ass has touched has turned to shit ! I think that is a better descrition ?
Dumbfuck those syrian rebels which US don't want to be termed as ISIS are not syrians firstly , they are all hired thugs coming from different countries . Syrian Army blazed US earlier thugs called Free syrian army or janabat-al-nusra after that they brought new thugs called isil and they went rogue now they are training new sand monkeys to do what , kill isis ? Nope provide their weapons to isis without any issues because there are no sanctions against them . Fcuk off idiot . Yes Russian Media espouses freedom of speech far better than your discredited lying whore PR empire worth millions to brainwash sheeple like you and make them suffer with american disease of xceptionalsim and deserve to get away with anything . Let that sink in shityatan
"talking about Russia, as though it were some peaceful, incorruptable government of benevolence"
Compared to America, it is.
Do you work at Langley, or do you just watch too much Fox News?
Who was it who said, a few weeks back that ZH was an interdepartmental effort.
Those "types of comments" make me think:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcasting_Board_of_Governors
Getting a few shots in at the Fight Club.
Ever wonder why socialist jew media shills can't post w/o name calling?
Read socialist jew Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals....name calling is their most powerful tool
And let's not forget the NATO drill in on the Black Sea, just concluded on the 17th [1], with two NATO signals intelligence ships still there (French Dupuy de Lôme A759, and Italian ITS Elettra A 5340) [2], and two AWACS' simultaneously patrolling in the region on a daily basis since March 2014 [3]. (Possibly one British. [4]) Surely, there weren't any satellites directed at the NATO proxy Ukraine and all this, with heavy fighting going on at the time.
[1] https://news.usni.org/2014/07/18/navy-ship-moves-black-sea-following-air...
[2] https://news.usni.org/2014/07/18/navy-ship-moves-black-sea-following-air...
[3] PDF 18/2521, Page 6 at https://www.bundestag.de/presse/hib/2014_09/-/329982
[4] http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-26523816
Kolomoisky.
Sorry about MH17 but it is a trifle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrfKZUttEwE
I always believed that MH17 was an attempt on Putin's life. Today, 15 months later, I am convinced that it was a 'false flag' like the chemical gas attack in Damascus in 2013.
The CIA did a copy cat 'false flag' in Ukraine a year after Damascus and this time they were completely successful. They were able to get all of NATO/EU on board and freeze Russia out of the investigation.
The most amazing image of all is Mark Rutte bent over with his pants around his ankles getting ass fucked on the graves of 200 of his countrymen.
What is really amazing is that it was the Donbas rebels that found the black boxes and gave them to Russia who in turn handed them over to the Dutch or maybe Malaysia ( been so long that I don't remember anymore).
Many people said when that happened that Russia screwed up.
They did. They had the boxes and should have had them downloaded in their own lab, but invite the counties with interest to send their own observers to witness the process.
You are correct.
But that would have prevented the whole investigation from being a travesty from beginning to end.
Speaking of the end, it should end in 3 weeks when the final report is issued (unless Rutte finds a way of dicking around some more).
Given America's Svengali-like control over the pussy-pigmies of NATO, none of the countries of interest would have accepted Russia's invitation.
Their only interest was in pinning MH17 on Russia/Ukrainian rebels.
NO MATTER HOW MANY OF THEIR CHILDREN DIED
Yeah man, it takes some time to position a telstar satellite you know.
Truthfully,
The Russians are the only nation sufficiently ruthless to possibly fix the mess in the middle east.
If they want to waste their money and lives on Syria, I say: "Better them than us."
We have met the enemy, and he is "us." None of this shit would be unfolding but for the PNAC. Let's hope the Russians clean house quickly and put an end to this "proxy" bullshit. Restabilization is top priority.
Syria is an ally and unlike US syrian govt called russian government to help them with the mess . Russia was reluctant yes but after successfully surviving the sanctions Russia has nothing to lose and everything to gain by acting independently on the world scene .
The Syrian Rift: 10 Major Developments
1. Syrian armed forces have successfully defended the strategically important province of Latakia, sweeping much of it from Islamist militants. The threat of the Syrian state being landlocked is gone, more or less stable front line was formed in Latakia.2. A threat by the Islamists of splitting Syria into two parts is removed – as a result of nearly two months of active defense of the highway Homs-Damascus government troops retained control of the important line of transport communications.
3. As a result of limited SAA offensive (troops loyal to Assad ) a bridgehead was captured for an attack on Palmyra, held by the ISIS militants – the complex of monuments of historical and cultural heritage, a strategically important transport hub and a regional center and a psychologically significant point on the map – the liberation of Palmyra many Syrian soldiers consider a matter of national honor.
4. Intensified actions of the Syrian air force and the effectiveness of barreled and jet artillery. During the operation against the militants of “Al-Nusra” in Latakia in 2 days with minimum losses the government troops liberated territory held by the militants since the end of 2013. In the operation near Palmyra the Syrian air force only in 2 days – from August 18-20 made a few dozen sorties, losing a fighter-bomber and two helicopters.
5. On September 19-20 for the first time since the beginning of August, the Syrian army has supported the Republican guard corps and allied forces fighting for Deir ez-Zor. Previously a giant “cauldron” in the East of Syria was repeatedly called by the bloggers the "Middle Eastern Stalingrad" with no chance of deblocage. Systematic air strikes on surrounding the Syrian military ISIS terrorists and supply of the blocked Syrian troops allows the Syrian command to hope for the preserving the control over Deir ez-Zor under their control. However, the remoteness of the “cauldron” from the “mainland” for hundreds of miles almost eliminates the chances of the surrounded to return from the battle alive.
6. Increased the quality of Syrian intelligence – this allows to quickly and accurately estimate the size and position of the enemy and destroy them, saving human resources of the SAA.
7. The level of Russian military presence in Syria increased several times. Military supplies, logistics and intel aid from Russia will increase the chances of thinning pro-Assad forces for the effective fight.
8. There is an apparent consensus between Russia and the US on the Syrian issue. For example, the United States had evacuated from the Syrian-Turkish border the "Patriot" air defense, able to counter the Syrian air force operations and possibly the Russian. Diplomatic activity of the United States indirectly testifies to the desire of the leadership to create a common front against the Islamists, therefore, US is changing the rhetoric against Assad – today he is regarded as the the only and temporary, but worthy of support ally in the fight against radical Islamism.
9. According to some information, ISIS continues to receive military support from third countries (possibly Turkey opposing the Kurds or Saudi Arabia, using the troops of the “Islamic state” against the Houthis in Yemen ).
10. Finally, the media activity of the first persons in Syria has increased. President Bashar al-Assad gave an interview in which he constructively described the situation in the country and expressed the hope for victory. The absence of pessimism or external manifestations of hysteria from the central government is important in this crucial period for the country.
However, it should be noted that more than half of Syria today is under ISIS control, in the North the Islamists are successfully opposed by the Kurds, not recognizing Assad's government and pursuing their own nation-building after the war. The Assad regime has lost a number of oil fields, military arsenals and significant roads within the country, as well as control over the border with Iraq, Jordan and de facto Turkey. In addition to ISIS there are more than three dozen other militarized groups opposing Damascus and each other. In fact under the control of the security forces of Damascus remains the most densely populated and urbanized, but comprising no more than 40% of the pre-war borders of Syria, region - the so-called “Little Syria”.
Only large-scale air and ground offensive against ISIS can turn the tide in favor of Damascus in order to oust the “Caliphate” into the desert, depriving of the control of roads, settlements and hydrocarbons deposits. Despite the obvious successes in the active defense the Syrian army in its current state is not capable of such large offensive operations without external support. The strategic counter-offensive on the Islamists continues to be most likely doomed to failure.
It makes your posts harder to read, not more emphatic, by typing in all bold.
IMPORTANT - I have downloaded and opened the second image shown (SyriaSatellite2.png) and examined it in Photoshop. I invite anyone else to do the same. Make a layer copy of one of the SU-305M jets shown and then move it to cover one of the other jets. Reduce transparency and zoom in, so you can compare the two, and you will see there are four pixel perfect copies super imposed onto one photo. Same reflections, same camoflage patterns, identical angles, they are pixel perfect. If you look at the white line that runs under the wings of the aircraft, you can even see a step where each layer copy was added. This photo is, without doubt, a FAKE. It would be interesting to know the source of this release, who has endorsed it and the motive behind it.
The internet will do to politics what the printing press has done to religion .... Gram and Gramps watching Fox "News" will eventually die off.
Funny how the US can give such detailed pictures of ONE RUSSIAN PLANE or TANK.... but a 2mile convoy of ISIS (US made Toyota)trucks flying black flags? Nope, can't find those. Riiiiiiiiiigght.
Nor can the USSA figure out what happened to MH370, a 777 just going poof!
"Most eminently hackable piece of engineering ever made by man" disappears in one of the most closely watched (radar, air, undersea, satellite) pirate infested shipping choke points on Earth.
"Poof" and I don't mean the Liberace kind, neither.
Since when did the USGov start relying on Digital Globe for it's spy and recon images?
About the same time they started relying on YouTube clips in my estimation.
Also hiring trolls like Bellingcrap to spread lies.
Looking closely at the images, I cant't seem to see that any of the planes are casting any sort of shadow at all???
Just an extra bright sunny day I suppose
Damn those Su Russian fighters look sweet even at a high alititude.
The designs on those Sukhoi's are sweet. Even the Su-34 zato code named "Fullback" with the Platypus nose is cool.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-34
So cool. compare it to that F-35 piece of shit that can barely fly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-34#/media/File:Russian_Air_Force...
Check out that Russian runway. Not in the best of shape but the Russian jets can take off on the worst airfields with weeds, snow, bad concrete. The Zato jets require runways that are perfect.
Canada, like the USA, is in the midst of a federal election. One opposition candidate, Justin Trudeau (the son of one of Canada's most hated past leaders, and a smarm in his own right) proposes to halt Canada's involvement in the F-35 program. IMO, it is his one redeeming electoral plank -- and yet, you wouldn't believe the hue and cry! Are the sheeple concerned that a Trillion Dollars has been sunk into a misguided boondoggle? Hell, no! They're concerned about subsidized jobs in aerospace. The military industrial complex has hijacked the public interest.
Canada's Stephen Harper Serenades Israel's Netanyahu
Don't believe a single thing Trudeau says.
He is also promising to make marijuana legal, when in fact the Canadian politicians and govt keep using the same tricks of talking as if legalization was in the cards, only to have the senators or other pukes get in the way later on, only sheeple end up living with the feeling that things aren't that restrictive here ("not like in America!").
Trudeau is Obama 2.0. He is promising all sorts of nice things, and the media is focused on his every little positive tidbit, and hence it is nearly 100% certain that TPTB have picked him for next PM, but obviously everything he promises is a pack of lies, just like Obama.
And just like Obama, he will most likely be far worse than his widely-hated right-wing predecessor.
(And FWIW I went to school with Justin Trudeau and can tell you he was a professional liar the whole time I knew him, from ~13 to 19 years old - poor guy was born into his role for TPTB, and I don't think he ever had a choice about it, sadly.)
Not much selection if you are anti-zio.
lore & chris, justin is his mother's son. he will suck zion cock. his brain is small & suited to doing what he's told, as well as being completely filled with air. he hasn't had an original thought in his life. he, along with harper, the newdp, the greens will all do what they are told. not one of them thinks about anything outside of what's PC & allowed. the greens never talk about FUKU or gaza, they are all overweight & never think about GMOs obviously. the PQ if they ran across the country might offer an alternative...otherwise as in the USSA the only alternative is to Not Vote. the yatter on all the debates has been about 'rights'. ask sweden not about rights?? rights if you are not clear about what is NB for your society & way of life is not only meaningless & dangerous but fundamentally stupid.
You might enjoy this cool photo series:
http://englishrussia.com/2015/09/21/production-of-russian-su-34-fullback...
Some of the Su-34 and Su-35 videos on Youtube are incredible. Moscow air show (MAKS) 2015 and Paris air show 2013, for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSzLAHMsoV0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVlmoNtcyhY
Absolutely correct, this is a C- Photoshop job, The buildings and bushes have slight shadows while the planes have none.
The artist forgot to use the drop shadow tool. Prolly a beginner. Photoshop is a bitch to learn.
Well, I can assist. Guess whose riding shotgun ..
https://youtu.be/LUYy2AJwb1s
At about 2:07, Gene (Chip) Tatum pops in the Skype chat. Tatum is a former USA Col., Pegasus Group. Pegasus is basically assassination and sabotage teams. Tatum left Pegasus when ordered to assassinate Ross Perot by GHWB personally. Tatum is relocating to safe harbor, and will soon resurface fully charged. Tatum told me himself in a private chat, that his brother-in-law is about to retire as outgoing chief intel officer for CINPAC. A Navy Capt. (full bird). According to Tatum, he has "stories" to tell ..
So ask yourself, why is not this video on Fox News? CNN? CNBC? Any of the major networks? Not even RT. Not sure if this has made it PressTV or Al Jazeera. Where's Drudge on this? Alex Jones anyone? ZH, Tylers, where are you on this?!?
So if G. Duff, just recently back from a trip to Syria, who in Vietnam did LRRPs as a sniper (who knew Hathcock, England, Mawhinney, et al) says Assad is not sure of total Russian troop strength inside of his own country (beyond post USSR agreement), then why do we believe any official from the Pentagram and/or Bush-CIA/Mossad controlled media?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/09/23/the-secret-isis-safe-havens-nobo...
Again, if we want to really, really and truly cut the head off the snake of ISIS .............
then, the MSM should be falling all over themselves, trying to decipher strange and unusual noises (and probably some smoke) coming from the campus at these coordinates:
30°10?39?N 95°30?14?W
Zoom in to campus, west of I-45 and north of the Grand Pkwy. Then zoom to the Hughes Landing area. I live in Shenandoah. Outside of Irving, this is where the war to defeat ISIS (and global terrorism in general) is to be fought for complete success. America, you ready for this?
Tatum like others bailed on Duff. Until proven otherwise I think Tatum is on the upnup.
Somehow the dubbed music does not lend to credibility, only theater.
Paul E. Vallely Wiki (the American guy in the YouTube video)
So essentially, he convinces people: "If you believe it, you can achieve it!" Move over, Tony Robbins. Positive thinking doesn't seem like a realistic foundation on which to base decisions that affect people's lives.
Interestingly, the Major General just published an article on his website (Sept. 18):
You don't eliminate terrorism by picking and choosing it like flavors of ice cream.
From the Duff article:
Oh, BROTHER.
ISIS "holds" bases in Israel?
There's something to be said for cutting off the head of the snake. I guess the point is: if you sponsor terrorism, the terrorist is YOU.
Also, remember when the neocons were claiming that the Iraqis were smuggling their weaponry (chemical weapons) out of Iraq? Iraq had to have been the most survailed place on the planet, yet, not a single picture!
The second class of US trained Syrians appears to have handed over their gear to Nusra Front.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article36632097.html
CIA says- awww shiiit they're going to break all our ISIS action figures over there. Raidin' the oligarch toybox.
LOL, saw a story on Drudge about how the Russians were tring to "sneak" fighter air-craft into Syria. Hahahaha…they're not
"sneaking" anything!
Saw that, too - author said something really crazy, "and there isn't even any ISIS in the area.."? Something to that effect - made me think, what point are they trying to make, not enough of an ISIS presence for the Russians, but it was imperative we take out Assad to .... I had to just stop.
Matt is the go to guy when you need the Zionist perspective.
Fuck Drudge. I wont give him page clicks any more.
It's not all that bad. Sometimes he has some stories that are quite humorous…or that will make your blood boil. Here, so you don't have to feel dirty by going through Drudge, here is a story about how Israel Is Running Out Of Land.
Brain Fart: I thought it said they were running out of lard.
That Too!
:-)
As per that article and it might be an ignorant question but why do the "ultra orthodox Jews" have such a" low labor participation rate"? Too religious to work?
Apparently in the US the "Haredi" sect have a higher labor participation rate but in Israel only about half of them are working.
http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Low-haredi-workforce-participation-must-end
The men study the Torah all day anything else would be beneath them. Not uncommon in NYC even 100 years ago, the men studied and discussed religion and their women had to go to work. The triangle fire story tells much of that era. I can not even comment.....
No worries.
Trump can build vertically for them.
Agenda 2030.
they came in shadow of transports
The intervention of the CSTO (Collective Security Treaty Organisation) against terrorism in Iraq and Syria may be the beginning of a world order based on the cooperation and defence of civilian populations, or, on the contrary, a period of East-West confrontation in which the West openly supports terrorism. Contrary to popular belief, this military deployment is aimed less at defending Iraq and the Syrian Arab Republic than the members of the CSTO themselves. It is therefore not negotiable. The debates in the UNO General Assembly and Security Council on the 30th September will reveal the response of Washinton and its allies. In any case, nothing will ever be the same.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article188763.html
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from the Decepticons over at Debka:
Russian marines join Hizballah in first Syrian battle – a danger signal for US, Israel
http://www.debka.com/article/24902/Russian-marines-join-Hizballah-in-fir...
How is it danger for the Israelis or Americans, exactly, Russia and Hezbollah fighting against foreign salafist mercenaries who seem quite willing to kill apostate muslims, christians, and anyone guilty of "idolatry"?
His bollah, her bollah, my bollah, yer bollah...
The bollas of my bollah is my bollah's enemy of my bollah's bollahses.
Fuck! I just had a Lewis Black moment waving my arms about, spitting and gurgling about the incomprehensibility of this shit's gonna get us kilt!
Yeah, I had trouble reading Dr. Seuss too.
Debka is not reliable source
I appreciate that.
But the value in propaganda is discerning what the propagandist wants you to think.
The Israeli PR machine has convinced much of the world that Hezbollah, a primarily defensive Lebanese org currently fighting ISIS and which has literally defended churches on their border.... is a "terror" org - but somehow Israel is not.
The idea is to link russia with hez.
Of course - this isn't fooling anyone not already fooled.
http://atimes.com/2015/09/did-russia-move-into-syria-because-hezbollah-i...
Regardless - the above references the SU25 and correctly links it with the A10.
A dozen or so Warthogs could have destroyed ISIS when they were rolling into Iraq in a nice convoy...
The A10 is cheap, reliable, sturdy, and deadly.
Which is why it is not in theatre/utilized in any reasonable sense and is essentially being mothballed.
"But the value in propaganda is discerning what the propagandist wants you to think."
+100
Keeping an eye of the Israeli hasbara outfits and also the Ukraine idiocy outfits (Ukraine has just banned a couple of Russian civil airlines from its territory. Any guesses what that resulted in?) It helps to know what the AngloZionists want you to think. Know thy enemy and all that.
Re: "The value in [reviewing] propaganda is discerning what the propagandist wants you to think."
Excellent.
I'm confused about Washington's confusion!
They're not confused, just lying.
Washington will really be confused if the Ruskies take out ISIS in just 6 months. How will that make BO look, weaker or stronger. /s
I cant believe I even asked.
Clearly this is a waste of resources. All that need be done is to send Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton and Madeleine Albright over there dressed in their favorite bikini.
The ISIS ragheads would be screaming all the way to Mecca.
Best comment on this thread.
" send Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton and Madeleine Albright over there dressed in their favorite bikini."
That's a cruel and unusal punishment - go for it.
That would make ME go screaming all the way to Mecca.
I would keep an eye on Chechnya. I wouldn't be surprised to see that blow up in the not too distant future. Split the Russian forces.....you know.....keep 'em honest....and on their toes. Basiclly, stretch Russia out to a 3 front war. Syria, Ukraine and Chechya This is what is really going on.
The Cold War is warming up fast. And as always....using proxies.
There's no doubt that the Anglo-Zionist Banking and Warfare Empire will try to use more terror proxies in Ukraine and the Chechnya/Dagestan reason.
No question.
However, what Russia's *response* to that would/will be is anyone's guess.
A few subs off Israel's coast would do wonders for diplomacy.
Once Putin and friends put paid to ISIS, any jihadi worth his stinking headdress will get that the USSA/CIA cannot be trusted, that they always abandon their allies. But then again, I forget, ISIS is supposed to a deniable asset.
Can anyone show an example where this did NOT happen?
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1jqjj0
0:48
Not a chance. Kadyrov rules that place now with an iron fist and offers to provide Putin with 80,000 special forces soldiers anywhere in the world at a moments notice in gratitude. I watched a vid when Kady called a unexpected meeting of his special response troops and they all arrived from all over within hours packed and ready and he did not even let them know what the assembly was about.. Every last one of then looked to be 6' 4'' special equipped musclebound badasses. I was impressed. The Chechen playground is closed.
There's a still photo here that proves your point
http://www.wsj.com/articles/chechen-president-ramzan-kadyrov-gives-shoot...
I saw another video like that where he offered Putin help anywhere anytime as much fighters as he needed.
Supposedly during the Russian-Georgian "war" where that scum bag shakasvilli or whatever his name is, started that war over Ossestia. The Russian shut it down very quickly and the Georgians abandonded their US equiptment.
The word was they told the Georgians that a platoon or brigade of Chechens were coming in to fight alongside the Russians. The Georgians supposedly shit in their pants.
They are not people you want to fight with.
that was Vostok and Zapad battalions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfYMuGOiV7Y
yeh, kinda flimsy gruzin and advisors abandoned equip and ran
they were disbanded soon after, cos of wild ways
current Chechen Vostok is not same
scum bag shakasvilli
why so polite?
Ramzan Kadyrov is a tough cookie.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/chechen-president-ramzan-kadyrov-gives-shoot...
It approaches the level of 'no tolerance' that the American police use on blacks.
that is twisted version
WSJ is terrible anyone should know beware
Of course the WSJ is terrible. But their headline agreed with me so I linked it.
When you read a story in the WSJ, NYT, WaPo, etc., you do so at your own risk. If you don't know that they are propaganda ourlets, you could wake up the next morning a neocon. :o/
Split the American forces out to a... (how many bases/outposts around the globe now...?).
And the South China sea, too. This is what is really going on...
You know nothing about Chechnya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irj_4IVLBP8
Yes thats the one. I could not remember where I seen it. Cracks me up, he starts that god is great ALLAH AKBAR almost as if he is daring them other worthless darkie alla akbar's to come try something stupid against his battle hardened Whiteboy Akbars. lol
Just impressing. Shit-the -pants-stuff. For some.
Checkmate Oboner ahahahahahaha. You little faggot.
It's going to get really interesting when these aircraft meet NATO aircraft over Syria; where is Maverick and Goose?