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In Latest Embarrassment, US-Trained Syrian Fighters Surrender "Pick-Up Trucks, Ammo" To Al-Qaeda
Back in July we learned that the Pentagon’s effort to train and equip properly “vetted” Syrian rebels to combat ISIS had suffered an embarrassing setback when the group’s commander and deputy commander were captured by al-Nusra.
"We, and the Sunni people in Syria, will not allow their sacrifices to be offered on a golden platter to the American side,” the group said, on the way to advising the US to give up on the program.
As it turns out, that was good advice because less than two months later, Gen. Lloyd Austin, head of the U.S. Central Command and Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Christine Wormuth admitted to Congress that the effort to recruit and field a force of more than 5,000 anti-ISIS fighters by year end wasn’t on track. When asked how many soldiers trained under the program (which was launched in May) were still operating in Syria, Austin said the total was probably “four or five.”
“Let’s not kid ourselves, that’s a joke. This is just a total failure,” Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) and Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) said.
Training those “four or five” freedom fighters has so far cost US taxpayers north of $40 million, and as we noted earlier this month, it’s important to take note of the sheer absurdity inherent in al-Nusra capturing the group’s leaders over the summer:
Effectively, the newest group of US-trained Syrian fighters was on their way to fight ISIS, another group of US-trained Syrian fighters, when their leaders were captured by al-Nusra, an offshoot of al-Qaeda, whose founder and allies received US support during the Soviet-Afghan war.
Well, just when you thought things couldn’t possibly get any more ridiculous, the Pentagon now says the “four or five” fighters still operating under the latest effort to train “moderate” Syrian rebels were forced to hand over six “pickup trucks” and an ammo cache to al-Qaeda in order to secure safe passage to who knows where. Here’s Reuters:
Syrian rebels trained by the United States gave some of their equipment to the al Qaeda-linked Nusra Front in exchange for safe passage, a U.S. military spokesman said on Friday, the latest blow to a troubled U.S. effort to train local partners to fight Islamic State militants.
The rebels surrendered six pick-up trucks and some ammunition, or about one-quarter of their issued equipment, to a suspected Nusra intermediary on Sept. 21-22 in exchange for safe passage, said Colonel Patrick Ryder, a spokesman for U.S. Central Command, in a statement.
"If accurate, the report of NSF members providing equipment to al Nusra Front is very concerning and a violation of Syria train and equip program guidelines," Ryder said, using an acronym for the rebels, called the New Syrian Forces.
U.S. Central Command, which oversees U.S. military operations in the Middle East, was told of the equipment surrender around 1 p.m. on Friday, Ryder said. Earlier on Friday, Ryder had said all weapons and equipment issued to the rebels remained under their control.
The news was the most recent sign of trouble in a fledgling military effort to train fighters to take on the Islamic State militant group in Syria, where a 4-1/2-year civil war has killed about 250,000 people and caused nearly half of Syria's prewar population of 23 million to flee.
A top U.S. general told Congress last week that only a handful of the rebels are still fighting in Syria, though U.S. military officials said this week that dozens more have since joined them.
U.S. officials have told Reuters that a review is underway that could result in scaling back and reenvisioning the program.
Yes, it may indeed be time to think about “scaling back” the program, although we would note that this is one program which seems to be on the way to scaling itself back so perhaps it's best to just let it continue to self destruct and lest anyone should think that this story isn't set to get still more absurd, we present the following from The Guardian who notes that the British security think tank Royal United Services Institute is now out claiming that Russia's earnest effort to rout ISIS (as opposed to Washington's half-hearted containment strategy that essentially gives the group just enough rope to ensure the Assad regime remains under seige) will somehow promote terrorism:
The deployment of Russian troops in Syria could end up helping Islamic State as they have been sent to areas where they are most likely to fight other groups opposed to Isis, according to a new report.
The Royal United Services Institute (Rusi) report comes ahead of a US-Russian summit meeting at the UN on Monday, when Barack Obama will question Vladimir Putin on the intention behind Russia’s deepening military involvement in Syria, according to US officials.
The Rusi report, titled Inherently Unresolved, assesses the global effort to counter the spread of Isis, and warns that Iraq and Syria may not survive as unitary states. It includes a section on Russian aims, particularly those underpinning Putin’s despatch this month of warplanes and troops to Tartus and Latakia in support of Bashar al-Assad’s regime.
Igor Sutyagin, a Russian strategic analyst, said there was an air regiment at Latakia with 28 planes, a battalion of motorised infantry and military engineers as well as a marine battalion at the naval base in Tartus.
The deployment, Sutyagin said, “underlines the contradictions of the Kremlin’s policy”, because the troops were in areas where Isis is not present.
“In this way, Russian troops are backing Assad in the fight against groups such as Jabhat al-Nusra and Ahrar al-Sham, which are themselves opposed to Isis. If Russian troops do eventually join combat, therefore, they would also – technically – be assisting Isis,” Sutyagin argued.
We'll simply close with a quote from the Russian foreign ministry's sharp-tongued spokeswoman Maria Zakharova:
"First we were accused of providing arms to the so-called 'bloody regime that was persecuting democratic activists'. Now it's a new edition - we are supposedly harming the fight against terrorism. That is complete rubbish."
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Shit's fucked up.
All 5 Syrian fighters surrendered?
Oh man, we are toast...
"Only about “four or five” U.S.-trained Syrian rebels remain on the battlefield to take on the Islamic State"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-16/total-failure-pentagon-spends-4...
I am Jack's total lack of surprise.
OTOH perhaps the US openly admitting this is just their way of backing out of taking responsibility for their assets in the middle east and so signalling that they're surrendering their (current) attempts at Syria.
A couple of thousand taxpayers worked every Monday and part of Tuesday their entire lives to finance that ill concocted failure? No doubt better spent than on their own families? And who cares?
We must fix this. Neither our citizens or the world deserve this wasteful, embarrassing, harmful, likely criminal, false exceptionalism “our” US government routinely displays.
Please. This is obviously a ploy to continue flooding the region with weapons. They can't have the Iraqis drop their weapons and leave hundreds of tanks behind every month. These "four or five" nameless dudes can, and will, make sure "four or five" warring factions remain heavily armed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mzwtmMBeY
Surrender of equipment was obviously part of the USSA plan, however screwed up. How is it possible that this rag tag group of head choppers has access to BILLIONS of dollars in advance USSA military equipment? Really, why would anyone with half a brain believe ANYTHING that the USSA state department, or British Poodles, say?
In other news. TSA is getting positioned to police all USSA sheeple outings.
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Center-City-Philadelphia-Secur...
What I find most disappointing is that after this article has been up almost six hours and after 175 comments, nobody has questioned the erroneous details of Tyler's post. Tyler is reporting just what the Pentagram and Reuters have said (mostly) but confuses the already erroneous details in a material way almost like it was designed to deceive. No idea if it's intentional or not. It's not my web site and the Tylers can choose to publish whatever they want.
But 175 comments later, we have plenty of muzzie-hatin' and 9/11 crap, but not an ounce of critical thought about the subject of this article or the way Tyler has presented it.
Which explains why the Tylers have not banned me - in the absence of critical thought, there's little danger of anyone stirring up any dangerous critical thinking.
So, yeah... just go with Reuters/Pentagram. Four or five moderate rebels turned over six pickups and some ammo, and the Pentagram just found out about it on Friday. [incredulous snort...]
"You can tell the world I hate Finland. It's too cold, there's no tea, no restaurants, no bars, nobody on the streets, only cars," 22-year-old Muhammed told AFP in Tornio, as the mercury struggled to inch above 10 degrees Celsius (50 Fahrenheit) on a recent blustery grey day.
http://news.yahoo.com/finlands-no-good-disappointed-migrants-turn-back-1...
Not enough welfare and the Babes are not too good looking in Finland.
I find it ironic, the christian taxpayer pays for scums like that as illegal immigrants in Europe and the USA taxpayer pays for them in the ME. What a fucking joke.
They knew this was going to happen, why couldnt they put some transponders in those trucks so they could blow them up, or even a bomb in the gas tank so they could remotely blow them up and take out some Al queda dudes. Oh sorry forgot they are Al CIAda.
With Finland they didnt go there because they were not made to feel welcom by the locals. Imagine that, it doesnt take much if people would get off their ass and stone some illegals as a greeting.
Thanks for that. I hated freedom and liberty anyway.
PavewayIV,
many of us have become so used to the lies spewed by the USSA, that we take them for granted and then go off on our favorite hobby horses. Few on ZH actually believe that so called trained US fighters just 'gave' their pick up trucks and ammo to Al Qaeda (a CIA creation). In a country where the per capita income is less than 1 fifth of the value of the truck alone, no gives anything away.
Putting everything in perspective...
Fewer global resources leads to survival of the fittest.
Oh, and suppressors are legal in Finland.
Meanwhile...
Look pretty good to me!
What happens is not an immediate ban, you're put on the list at this point and any further bitchen gets you banned.
You never talk back to Tyler, ever. It's like spitting in the face of an FBI man.
Who is this stupid "US" that you speak of?
The word "us" doesn't appear in my comment.
My thoughts exactly. Exclaiming, "oops" at an intercepted airdrop isn't acceptable because there are no degrees of separation. Having a party that is "acceptable" to arm "surrender" them to those who are not....totally fine. See? Not USA's fault.
How about giving $40 million dollars worth of weapons to the Kurds? I know Turkey would be pissed, but I bet that buys you a whole bunch of dead ISIS fighters.
American Middle Class taxpayers have deep pockets.
Why tax when you can "charge it"? The US Military backed Federal Reserve issued American Empire charge card unlimited and accepted worldwide (for now). Current balance $18 trillion, monthly minimum payment $0. (interest is added to the balance)
Training 5 soldiers, $40 million
No boots on the ground, Priceless.
Is anything not fucked up anymore?
Trump's going to fix it all like one big Wolleman Skating Rink project.
Sorry to say it but the dollar and the USA is going down. We are our own worst enenmy. And China and Russia have some smart folks in charge helping speed up our decline.
All the politicians we have are either murderers or circus clowns. We are rotting from the head.
Someone should try to get a breakdown and listing of exactly where that 40 million went. Excellent candidate for fraud waste and abuse possibility.
Well, Buddy, you get three guesses where that money went,,,and the first two don't count.
Hint. MIC
$40 Mil USDopeyDollahs are just chumpchange to those that Cntlprnt to run Fed.Gov.
Why do either of those when the CIA can pay cash with heroin proceeds. Or, did you think we are still in Afghanistan because we are making them free?
American Middle Class taxpayers have deep pockets.
And tiny minds, and attention spans now measured in the time it takes for a Hot Pocket to cook in the microwave.
And furthermore.....< DING >.....uummmm....HHhhhhottttt Pockets. What was I saying ?
It's the "Gruberized" generation!
No thought, no feeling.
> American Middle Class taxpayers have deep pockets.
The IRS taxation mechanism should be interpreted as taking back one third of a bone thrown at a dog a minute ago. It's a complete misnomer to apply both the "Middle Class" and "taxpayers" terms in this case.
The notion of "tax" simply cannot be applied to Americans since the country has a monthly trade deficit of about $45B (i.e. physical goods and cash flows have to be poured into the country, as there is no such a thing as uncorking .gov/consumer savings anymore -- given the total national debt)?
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/balance-of-trade
All the essence and knowledge is lost about two generations ago, since ZOG pushed people into using words and even making up sentences with no meaning behind them and it's quite incredible: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/09/tyler-durden/the-dumbification-of-am...
Sad, but true... Everyday, everywhere you meet/see "analyst" who are dressed up in suites and use hi-tech gadgets and would hope they might be more intelligent than a dog or a monkey typist -- but once those ZOG education program victims open holes in the middle of their faces and start producing senseless waves or sounds (or type vacuous sequences of characters in their blogs online) you realize how bad things turned out to be -- and random shuffling of such stereotypes and propaganda clichés substituted the real knowledge and thinking process in an average persons' brain... 42 is the new Number of the Beast.
It's just inconceivable how everything is so virtual, fake an superficial in the head of an average slave/workforce resource who would not survive _a single month without the FRS_, since all central banks in the world (aside from maybe North Korea and Cuba) are affiliates of the Federal Reserve System.
Simply put, if there is no FED tomorrow, there is no USA. FED is the main mechanism of the colonial taxation, and all other central banks in the world are just branches of FED, being, in essence, just currency boards, usually supervised by former Goldmanites.
Here is a real world example.: http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-budget-value
[... ] The United States recorded a budget deficit of $149.2 Billion in July, $55 billion higher from the same period last year as spending increased more than receipts [...]
There is no free lunch, if USA has a deficit of 150B in Jul 2015, then someone needs to deliver physical goods to compensate for it. Repeat, _physical goods_. The only way for the USA to get the missing 150 billion dollars is from its colonies and vassals, so FED orders, say, Central Bank of Japan to print ("produce") worth of 10 billion dollars in local currency, yen, in an exchange for the "US debt instruments" (i.e. IOU with real value of zero). That means that in July Japanese slaves will have to produce physical articles (cars, electronics etc. -- BTW, that's one of the reasons why Japanese cars are so good, i.e cheap given they are cheaper than their manufacturing cost) which will contribute extra $10 billion dollars to Japan's GDP so that soccer mom Sara can enjoy her new Honda Odyssey. Then FED assigns ECB to generate, say, worth of 50 billion dollars in Euro, and so on, until it gets covered for the whole amount of $150 MMM.
And if a colony refuses to pay, then there is always the Seventh Fleet, missing Malaysian or Indonesian flights, explosions in Thailand, ISIS/i-CIA-SIS, "Ebola" only in oil-rich regions, etc. However, at this point US colonies are no more capable of producing any more freebies, so USA (read, USA owners), to survive, are creating a chaos in the rest of the world -- to attract the remaining foreign capital into USA (the "only safe heaven" on the planet), and later on burn it in a controlled hyperinflation (devaluating dollar by 75-80% over the course of 1-2 months).
PS
Unfortunately, financial reporting is screwed up _by design_ and GDP had to be used in the example, which is just a fancy term for the total final sales, but these "final sales" are not a good indicator of the economic power at all and don't make much sense whatsoever. A pair of flip flops produced for $1 in China is then delivered and sold in USA for $10, and at that moment China's GDP grew only by 1 dollar whereas USA GDP by 10 dollars. This of course allows USA to claim that its GDP is ten times bigger than China's. The whole modern "economic theory" and accounting is one big pile of BS.
PPS
Just because ZOG media never covers National Liberation Movements (NLM) around the worlds, doesn't mean they don't exist. The strongest National Liberation Movements are in Russia (led by Putin) and Germany, despite the fact that Germany is a vassal/Tier 1 colony allowed to rob its own colonies.
Infidels!
or Terrrists.
You decide. I'm going to make some cabinets, lets talk later.
"How about giving $40 million dollars worth of weapons to the Kurds? I know Turkey would be pissed, but I bet that buys you a whole bunch of dead ISIS fighters."
How does that overthrow Assad or get the Sunni (Qatar and Saudi) gas pipeline built?
Seriously though, if they really wanted to hurt ISIS (or whatever the fuck its called this week), they would:
"Pressure Turkey and Jordan to cut off ISIS supply routes, and impose sanctions on any country facilitating the sale of oil from IS territory or allowing funds or materials to reach them. No army can function if their supply chain is broken. It's not an accident these routes start at the Turkish and Jordanian borders."
How To Solve The European Migrant/Refugee Crisis - 5 Simple Steps
http://stormcloudsgathering.com/how-to-solve-the-european-migrantrefugee...
Anything going into Syria from Jordan is coming from USA LLC or UK plc. Now why would they interdict their own materiel?
The Kurds were are BFF's two or three wars ago. Try to keep up.
I agree with your post, by the way. We have allowed the Kurds to be fucked twelve ways from Sunday for a very long time.
This talk of scaling back our efforts is utter nonsense. Rather, we should increase the amount of equipment and armaments
we allow to fall into "enemy" hands, but only after fitting them with Hellfire Missal beacons. Likewise, we could let a few billion
FRN's, with tracking capabilities, fall into the hands of the ?? dissidents, insurgents, rebels, radicals, terrorists ??, thus analyzing
the financial intricacies of their networks. Further, we could recruit terminally ill citizens/patriots to be implanted with RFID
and taken hostage in an effort to root out the civilian cells. We could allow large shipments of small arms to be taken, and
track cluster patterns via satellite. Think fast and furious. I'm not that bright, so I figure someone else has thought of these tactics,
so I don't always assume our gov. operatives are total morons.
Harder to find volunteers who want their heads cut off with a dull knife, even among the terminally ill.
Very true, that's where the merciful Hell Fire Missile comes in.
Lets send you. You sound terminally ill.
No, Imuhnutjahb. Mentally ill, in a fun kinda way q:B
"Only about “four or five” U.S.-trained Syrian rebels remain on the battlefield to take on the Islamic State"
The rest of them are in or headed to Germany to find the banksters that double tricked them.
We wish. In reality they're heading to Germany for some fat social welfare benefits.
And free VW's?
No doubt these weapons have ended up where the US originally wanted them to, just like the weapons the US left in Iraq found their way to ISIS.
Lets just butt heads on monday and agree to disagree.
This is a weapons transfer mechanism. Both sides work for the US. Nothing to see herer.
The MIC et. al. are loving it. Actually, I think we should change the acronym from MIC to MPIC, that is Military and Police Industrial Complex. The MIC is one of the main beneficiaries of the militarization of the CIVILIAN police forces...
;-D
MIC doesn't care where the weapons go. They'll just make more.
The profits are yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge!
Recall how the United States' "investment" in the Taliban turned out.
It turned out that they offered to hand over OBL iff .gov provided evidence of his guilt. Initially they said they would try him, eventually they said they'd actually hand him over - if evidence was provided.
Bush rejects Taliban offer to hand Bin Laden over
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5
This was a short time after OBL strenuously and repeatedly denied involvement
http://www.globalresearch.ca/interview-with-osama-bin-laden-denies-his-i...
You know the rest.
That war was planned before 9/11.
Most of what .gov has said has been deliberate lies to cover up wars for profit.
"This is a weapons transfer mechanism."
Nailed it..."Surrendered 25% of their issue"...why only 25%...kill the fuckers and take 100%...why would you allow your enemy to pass with 75% of the tools they're going to use to kill you?
Because they're not your enemy...they're your golden goose...25% today, 25% next week, the week after that, again after that...and again and agian and again...
They already sold the other 75% to their buddies. They only had 25% left.
"They already sold the other 75% to their buddies. They only had 25% left."
Either that, or they had 3 more stops to make...
getting ready for russians by running away
Watch out for USSA doing something mental. They really have to preserve the petro-dollar and reserve currency status to keep the ponzi going.
Without the military's aura of invincibility and perceived ability to push everybody around, gunboat financial tricks like ZIRP and QE wouldn't be possible. And without the same financial tricks, the giant military wouldn't be possible. We shouldn't be surprised to see uncle scam go full retard because any military smackdowns would embolden others to misbehave against 'Murika.
Bingo. You never want to go full retard, but I am afraid the Whores of DC have. Everyone is going to party in the Middle East, bring your own fireworks. They need to rachet up the boogyman to "war status" to distract from the economic collapse of a failing Ponzi.
Here's another program. West Pointers got on a bus with a police escort the entire way to the Penn 400 Nascar race. When they got there an entire floor of the hotel was dedicated to them. They all sat next to the concessions in the shade to watch the race. They are the best seats in the house. What did that cost? War is a business.
West Point is for girls in sports bras and nice soft sneakers.
Hero's defending your liberty, freedom and the American way deserve the best. Yes?
I saw a C-130 or two worth of cadets from the Air Force Academy (in Colorado) at the Michigan State game in Lansing last weekend... I suppose they can write off as flight training....
A cynical person would think that this was just an extremely inefficient and underhanded way of supplying more arms to al qaeda, just in the name or moar war.
I am finding it increasingly difficult to understand clearly who's side the U.S. is on in this thing.
Simple. It's OUR SIDE. With a little help from the side who has the most money. THE BANKS !!
So are they
whose
How much of that $50 million did Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway get? They have their fingers in a lot of pies. A lot of generals' pensions depend on this war in the Middle East going on endlessly. More years of service funneling U.S. taxpayer dollars to jihadist rape murderers, a higher pension and a better chance to get a post-military job with an arms vendor.
HAHHAHAHAHA !!!! ROTFLMFAO !!!!
This is some FUCKED UP version of Iran Contra. We give the GOOD MUZZIES the money and arms and THEY give it to the BAD MUZZIES who are actually what we consider behind the scenes as the GOOD MUZZIES because they are trying to take down BASHAR AL ASSAD because we actually think he is a BAD MUZZIE.
The enemy of my enemy is my wife's third cousin's nephew from a previous marriage to a lesbian couple who practiced bisexual polyamoury without protection and out popped the friend of my enemy who friended someone on Facebook......Arabic version of course.
And of course, because this is COMPLETE INCOMPETENCE on the part of the Pentagon, they'll be assured a 35% increase in funding for next year. Because, in Fascism Land....the more you fuck a country up if you are in governement or the more you fuck up a company if you are in Big Business.....the more money you get.
The Pentagram is just evil and corrupt.
nailed it
GO Putin!
You do not become an "ally" to Putin('s Russia). Merely a vassal.
Which is different from the United States because....
Sometimes I think you might actually be retarded.
The Russians do not care who is fighting who - anyone resisting or fighting Assad's troops is going to be taken out - and let Allah sort them out.
We can only hope...but Putins ball's, while appearing large, seem to shrivel at just the site of the pool...
-15 and rising...ok, tell me where Putin has foiled ANYTHING the USA is up to...all they do is bitch and move equipment around...THROW A FUCKEN PUNCH ALREADY!
Georgia & Ukraine say 'hi'
He has'nt been out on probation long?
BRICS, SCO, AIIB.
There's three already.
Putin has thrown several punches already, only clueless, brainless morons cannot see it.
Now run along and watch some good jooprogramming.
I suspect you never studied Judo.
Or Chess.
Or had your diminutive phallus inside a birth canal not your own mum's.
Oh please...you all name off little pussy punches...the Fucken Bully still runs unchecked.
AIIB...LOL..what a fucken joke..."New reserve currency"..another fucken joke..."end of the Petro dollar">..again a fucken joke...ALL VERY SMALL SCALE and REACTIONS...NOT ACTION.
Interesting stuff here. Hezbollah has a tank brigade in Syria to help support the Syrian Army now.
Nasrallah ( of Hezbollah) said that Iran even suggested a substitute for Assad and Russia refused.
http://www.moonofalabama.org/
Turkey has pissed off China. Jordan has pulled support probably after Putin told that dwarf King of Jordan that he will be a dead man walking. Send those refugees to Jordan.
eeeh... Freddie.... dubious.....
possible, but... bear in mind, it behooves certain parties to not only continue the , basically lie, that Hezbollah is a mindless Islamist terror group instead of a defensive Lebanese resistance... and behooves them to also make claims that Hezbollah is getting all sorts of sexy new weapons.
Every time they hit syria, more than once, well times with ISIS offensives, the claim was they were targeting missilces bound for Hez.
They said it - for the Israel Firsters, that suffices as proof, but how could they know if anti-aircraft missiles sittign in Syria werent going to stay put to potentially shoot down Turkish, US, or Israeli birds?
I think Israel just used an excuse - like "rockets were stored at every school and hospital in gaza - an absolute lie although there were a few cases of storage in schools, etc for sure - or like thos eharmless rockets that always seem to land in a field but which generate a nice handful of sorties against Gaza aprtment buildings.
I'd expect all sorts of reports from sites no one heard of but which appear Arabic/Islamic to make all sorts of claims about Hezbollah weapons cap.
Then the Zios say, please Uncle Sugar - we need MOAR things to KILL ALL THE PEOPLE
and an army of hasbara troll pukes go online to monitor and spread disinfo totally incapable of feeling any shame, knowing only blind ethnocentric loyalty to people who deserve to be sereving life sentences.
Yes. At least Russia can define its enemy.
As usual Obama admin is clueless
He just heard about it on the news last night like the rest of us.
Barry first read the news here on zh...he's a "Closet ZH'er."
he is one of those hasbara trolls
You really think BHO reads here at ZH? Well then, "get outta the f'ing closet you muslim homo".
"violation of Syria train and equip program guidelines"
the fighters will now get tickets!
They were given a stern tweet by a twat.
Virgins for everyone.
"As usual Obama admin is clueless"
How are they "clueless"?
>$50,000,000 spent "in the region"
>A large cache of weapons delivered to the people fighting Asad and now the Russians
...I'm thinking "mission accomplished".
On this topic, anyone that thinks the "Obama Admin is clueless" is, well, clueless themselves.
The West has many "goals" in the region..all require destabilization, chaos and "enemies" of "Freedom and Democracy" in order to drum up, and maintain, support for unlimited funds to be spent "Securing the Homeland" under the banner of "American Exceptionalism" and "Gods Work"...
"It is no longer tenable for the United States and its regional allies in and near the Middle East to claim they are backing “moderate rebels” in the proxy war raging in Syria, Iraq, and parts of Lebanon. There is the Syrian government on one side, and terrorists including Al Qaeda and its various franchises such as the Al Nusra Front and the so-called “Islamic State” (ISIS/ISIL) on the other."
"The genesis of modern Turkish-sponsored terrorism, like Al Qaeda, also originates from the Cold War. Part of the wider stay-behind networks known as “Gladios” created by NATO to allegedly fight Soviet forces in the event of a Soviet invasion and occupation of Western Europe, these terrorist groups were instead turned against the population of NATO member states and engaged in violence, terrorism, mass murder, and assassinations. A group of ultra-nationalists known as the “Grey Wolves” would be cultivated for this task within Turkey."
Turkey was a peaceful, secular State...now look at it..."out of the blue" too...
http://journal-neo.org/2015/09/23/turkish-uyghur-terror-inc-americas-other-al-qaeda/
Turkey was also the training and transfer center for NATO-sponsored Chechen rebels (hence the Boston blowback?) used against Russia.
Turkey has probably been suckered into this by little voices whispering into Erdogan's ear "just do this one little thing for us and we will help your application for EU membership" ... "just do this one little thing for us and we will help you sort out the Kurd problem" etc.
American exceptionalism is a ruse, it stands in front of real goal which is the Greater Israel.
Remember those 7 countries in 5 yrs, go read Deuteronomy and the smashing of 7 nations or Kings
that the Jews learn about in childhood.
The entire US involvement in Syria, including its creation ISIS, has resulted in 250,000 deaths and more than 4 million refugees. It is not just an embarrassment, it's a war crime
Seymour Hersh exposes US government lies on Syrian sarin attack 10 December 2013
Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has published an article demonstrating that the US government and President Barack Obama knowingly lied when they claimed that the Syrian government had carried out a sarin gas attack on insurgent-held areas last August.
Hersh’s detailed account, based on information provided by current and former US intelligence and military officials, was published Sunday in the London Review of Books. The article, entitled “Whose sarin?,” exposes as a calculated fraud the propaganda churned out day after day by the administration and uncritically repeated by the media for a period of several weeks to provide a pretext for a military attack on the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/12/10/pers-d10.html
chaos.........the best ZH comment thread EVER.........bookmark it and read it every week............
Fri, 10/08/2010 - 06:30 | 634607 LeBalanceCON-fidence.
At the end of the lifespan of such a banking system there is always chaos. It is because the growth in credit must continue or the system blows up (PONZI), because there is no core value (no fungible moneybase) a PONZI is required, not optional.
The PONZI is the core.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/karl-denninger-explains-foreclosure-gat...
http://usawatchdog.com/global-economy-imploding-now-warren-pollock/
JO
All important observation(s) and to add to what you said the fact that when the demolition of Syria got underway in 2011 by the U.S., Britain and Israel more than 40,000 Russians (some of which had dual citizenship) and had lived there for decades were forced to evacuate out of concerns for their safety.
It can't be mentioned enough that this in itself was an act of war that should have drawn Russia into the defense of the Assad government much earlier considering the business relationship Russia has had with Syria for more than a half century.
The United States government has actively supported Christian-murdering foreign terrorists as part of a plan that preceded Obama to 'regime change' a handful of Muslim countries, at a tremendous cost in blood and treasure, for reasons having absolutely nothing to do with American national security.
Let that sink in. 9/11 - that whole... Patriot Act, NSA, raw data to Israel... Afpak, Iraq - all the hundreds of thousands dead.
And the United States government has provided aid and comfort [and logistics, weapons and training] directly and indirectly to actual, bonafide terrorists.
The extent to which the US has aided "ISIS" directly versus indirectly is a matter, for now, of speculation, but every indication is that, at a minimum, the US has opted not to stop the mostly foreign mercenary army, all the while lying to the American people that it is a "civil war," and once again completely ignoring international law and sending in troops and hardware without the consent of Syria's totalitarian but lawful {and least worst option} govt.
This is remarkable. Your government has supported Al Qaeda - little more than a label for various groups supported by the US and its "allies."
Yet read the NY Times or watch Fox with their absurd, Orwellian inversion of events in Ukraine and Syria.
We have a government supporting the very terrorists who {they alleged} did 9/11.
We have a media absolutely lying about events all over the world.
And everyone is acting like this fucking upcoming election is anything but a fucking charade.
And most Americans are content to hate "Muslims" for violence largely, even mostly sponsored by states - while the US and Israel MURDER THOUSANDS of innocent people who are in the way of gas transit paths, or Greater Israel's future borders, or who are simply expendable.
How in the fuck have we sunk so low that our government supports Muslim terrorists, in order to protect a dollar that is dying anyway, in order to weaken Russia and Iran, in order to go along with Israel's Transnational Network of spies, agents and traitors... the media absolutely lies about it...
And no one - NO ONE is marching in the streets?
This is not a country worth fighting for.
America died some time ago.
I don't know what the fuck this is.
The fucking Russians and Iranians have become the good guys - not because they are so noble, but because WE have become lying, murdering megalomaniacs who can justify the bombings of weddings, and schools and hospitals because we are so good at dehumanizing anyone that stands in the way of our homicidal ambition.
We have a government supporting the very terrorists who {they alleged} did 9/11.
Francesco Cossiga, former President of Italy, confirmed that 9/11 was an inside job. Cossiga resigned after he confessed about Operation Gladio which carried out many false flag attacks mainly to prevent left-wing governments from coming into power in Europe.
Cossiga gained respect from opposition parties as one of a rare breed – an honest politician – and led the country for seven years until April 1992.
Cossiga’s tendency to be outspoken upset the Italian political establishment and he was forced to resign after revealing the existence of, and his part in setting up, Operation Gladio – a rogue intelligence network under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 60s, 70s and 80s.
[Bin Laden supposedly confessed] to the Qaeda September [attack] to the two towers in New York [claiming to be] the author of the attack of the 11, while all the [intelligence services] of America and Europe … now know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the CIA American and the Mossad with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part … in Iraq [and] Afghanistan.”
Cossiga first expressed his doubts about 9/11 in 2001, and is quoted in Webster Tarpley’s book as stating that “The mastermind of the attack must have been a “sophisticated mind, provided with ample means not only to recruit fanatic kamikazes, but also highly specialized personnel. I add one thing: it could not be accomplished without infiltrations in the radar and flight security personnel.”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/ex-italian-president-intel-agencies-know-9-...
"How in the fuck have we sunk so low that our government supports Muslim terrorists, in order to protect a dollar that is dying anyway, in order to weaken Russia and Iran, in order to go along with Israel's Transnational Network of spies, agents and traitors... the media absolutely lies about it...
And no one - NO ONE is marching in the streets?
This is not a country worth fighting for.
America died some time ago."...
TIG
Wel said indeed! Israel should have been threatened by the U.S. government after what it perpetrated with the 9/11 and if the government had done it's job "by the book" we'd still be a Country with laws.
Everyone has sold out to the money lenders most significant among them the "4th Estate" which might as well be the law now in this Country telling us what we can and cannot believe.. When you are in bed with the bankers that brought you the wholesale destruction of your own in Manahattan and Washington 14 years ago and your military knowingly perpetuates the lie for other motivations you know you are finished. When you can kill your own based on a lie and maintain that lie you deserve your own destruction.
The American people have had too many opportunities to fix this situation in the last decade and now Russia, China and Iran will fix unfortunately fix it for us!
"I don't know what the fuck this is."
It's LeftWingNutJob Socialism man! Those fucken Liberals and all that shit!
We need to put the Conservatives in charge and end all this shit man!
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Our intelligentsia (college profs) are afraid to speak out for fear of losing their jobs. Physics and Engineering professors are afraid of speaking about the impossibility of the governemnts version of 911 and economics professors are afrarid of speaking out against the Federal reserve. When the student loan bubble pops, and their salaries or perks get cut, they may begin to speak out.
Regardless, we need to spread the message of the governments complicity in 911 on forums and to every one we meet socially, in a way that is first humorous and will not lead to too much suspicion on their part. We will find that most people are leaning to the opinion that our government is complicit in 911; most already doubt on some level the governemtns story of 911; others, usually younger, have already found out the truth abuot Sandy Hook, others because the obvious duplicity of supplying weapons to rebels that immediately wind up in the hands of ISIS or Al-Qaeda
Saying that the WTC 1 rubble pile was a CRATER whose center is at street level opens their eyes immediately that it was destroyed by explosives. QED. Pause this video at 1:17 to see a vertical pole at the center of the rubble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPJUP-Ry7d0
People are gradually becoming aware that their government is owned and opearated for Zionist Banskser Criminals.
I estimate that about 50% are dimly aware and mabye 10% are very aware, but are too afraid to let others know how they feel. These percentages are growing thanks to the youtube videos on 911, Zerohedge, RT, pressTV and other news sources.
The militarization of the police due to the Zionist plan to install a military dictatorship similar to the Soviet Union (run by Jews who were the driving force behind communism in Russia) must be and will be stopped. Talking to minorities and using the extraordiary repression and violence against minority youth as an entre into 911 is useful.
Jews are not the enemy per se; however any group that controls the money supply is the enemy of freedom and that group must be opposed. Jews just happened to have created a financial empire that controls the entire West; this was due in part to their tribal orientation, cohesiveness, religion that taught them they are 'chosen', laws mandating interest on loans made to non jews which I call now the NSC (New Superor Chosen).
Russia has figured this out; they are making a stand by supporting Iran and most importanly by moving forces directly into Syria on the border with Israel. Putin understands that the Zionist Bankster Criminals are like the snake in Rudyard Kiplings Riki Tiki Tavi; to adequately defeat a monster, you must go for their eggs.
China understands this as well and is standing with Rusia.
As this war heats up in the ME between the JFE and Russia/China, the JFE willl print up more and more money trying to protect it's eggs. Before the JFE supplied money to create Israel by destroying others but now it will be printing up money trying to keep Israel from being destroyed itself
'He who controls the money, controls everything'.
You are spot on, hence we have this: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-26/un-unleashes-plan-pushing-world...
This is an investigation of the 9/11 money trail. Well worth watching by J Corbett who has some good investigative videos.
https://www.corbettreport.com/911-trillions-follow-the-money-video/
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I concur. It is a great video!
Thanks for posting
+100, Max. Very well stated.
I knew you had the big picture in mind when I read the following ,"innocent people who are in the way of gas transit paths,"
That, in my mind, is the crux of this whole shitshow. Other goals and ambitions are being sought simultaneously, but the
energy play is the drum beat. I agree concerning the apathy of the US citizenry, but I think it is more a function of, lack of information
and rampant dis-information, (through the total capture of the media), than it being a lack of character in the citizenry. During the Vietnam
"police action" the media reported atrocities, with imagery. The media reported domestic demonstrations, thus catalyzing momentum.
That is no more.
Yes We Can.
I had a lefty lawyer (far left) say to me the other day "I still love Obama"
Wow, can the left get any more demonic?
ISIS = CIA destabilization . I thought this was well-known?
they were supposed to destabilize Assad, not Saudis, Iraqis and Kurds too
Those others were just an added benefit tagged on by the Mossad trainers in Jordan.
So if we keep the Arabs killing each other, they will forget about Israel?
ISLAM, Catholicism, Judaism, Buddhism, Monasticism, are all Training Systems... complete with cannons to go after the young before they get old.
This makes them perfect tools for the CIA.
The Military, the US Navy, Air Force, and Army systems are similar. Build Unity, Team Cohesion, Principals are repeated, Doctrine is held as sacred, and authority figures are recognized, respected, held to be of the highest esteem, and fealty is given to these authority figures within a ranking system. Of course Propaganda and truths are handed down to keep the minds of the masses clear.
"51 percent of U.S. Muslims prefer Shariah
There are now an estimated 3 million Muslims residing in the United States as citizens or with permanent legal status, and more than 250,000 new Muslim residents enter the U.S. per year as refugees, on work visas and student-based visas, according to the Center for Immigration Studies.
A poll commissioned in May 2015 by the Center for Security Policy showed that 51 percent of American Muslims preferred that they should have their own Shariah courts outside of the legal system ruled by the U.S. Constitution. And nearly a quarter believed the use of violent jihad was justified in establishing Shariah.
"That would translate into roughly 300,000 Muslims living in the United States who believe that Shariah is 'The Muslim God Allah's law that Muslims must follow and impose worldwide by Jihad,'" writes Frank Gaffney Jr., president of the Center for Security Policy.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/poll-most-u-s-muslims-would-trade-constitutio...
- Can we now all admit that this melting pot won't work in Europe, in the USA, or anywhere else and that this is Treason for our leaders to attack foreign countries, render citizens to black-sites, fire on wedding parties, drone strike women and kids, break the Geneva Conventions, and wage a dirty war... then invite the refugees who can't prove their identity to us, who we can't know at all,... invite them to wage Jihad in the USA (while feeding them and paying them welfare to purchase weapons)
- Can we admit the Evil of US Foreign Wars, and that our Federal Leaders and Bankers don't give a damn about sovereignty, democracy, freedom, or the US Middle Class
Frank Gaffney Jr. is a Zionist warmongering fucking pig and his "Center" is Zionist, Jewish Supremacist nonsense.
It's Pam Gellar, Rita Katz, Richard Perle
Its getting American goyim to hate Islam and destroy Israel's regional rivals.
There are people who recoil and shout "anti-Semite" at the most careful, deliberate review of disproportionate Jewish/Zionist power....
But who will not bat an eye at making the most assinine, juvenile, facile statements about 1.2 billion muslims.
There is absolutely a great deal of violence in the Koran, but the Christians of the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Conquistadors prove that Christians have been just as violent - indeed have killed more.
And the Jewish "holy book" actually gloats about mass murder, genocide, racism, xenophobia - and you see its fruits more and more as Israel learns it can do whatever it wants and not be punished in any way. Indeed, the world is so inverted Israel can murder children in hospital beds, and build Jewish only colonies on land stolen in an *aggressive* war....then ACTUALLY CLAIM it is "anti-Semitic" to protest such acts.
This is absolute nonsense and it requires people who have given up even *trying* to think for themselves. It requires people who have been brainwashed by the sheer repitition of lies repeated in a media that is controlled by a handful of corporations virtually all of which are largely, if not entirely, owned/managed by Jews - something true in the US most of all, but similar in Canada, the UK, France, and elsewhere.
When you have a situation where you accuse a criminal of a crime, and his reply is that you are "anti-Semitic" - you have a Black Magick spell.
"anti-Semite"
say it over and over.
write it down
rip it up and set fire to it.
That word, most of the time, is now used to obfuscate wildly disproportionate Jewish power and influence {which is at times, if not often, in conflict with the interests of other groups} and Israeli war crimes.
That's it.
Few people - well, sadly not few, but a relative few people actually hate Jews because they are Jews - they hate the government of Israel's malfeasance, they dislike disproportionate Jewish power, wealth and privilege, and they increasingly refuse to accept that it is "hate" to talk about it.
Indeed, the spell of 'anti-Semite' MUST be broken for there to be any chance of stopping the neocon/globalist plans of decades of war.
There are still plenty of MIC and banker cunts who crave war, but in terms of **our politics and media and MASS CONDITIONING - it is Jewish power and Zionism which most of all creates the conditions wherein the US government can lie about 9/11 and 12 years later fairly overtly support the same "terrorists" in order to topple governments which threaten the petrodollar and/or Israel and/or the control of energy.
Brother Nathaniel says it best in one of his interviews.
I don't hate Jews. But I can talk about Jews.
Racism, Prejudice, Stereotypes, Generalizing can be hurtful. In some cases Racism can be Evil, Violent, Deadly, or it can incite riots, race riots.
But at some point you have to see the coup that has taken over the US Congress. Money, Greed, Self Promotion, Networking has corrupted to the level of Treason, Racketeering, Monopolies/Oiligopolies, and Anti-Trust. Yes, the huge Central Government budget protects us, but it has been raped by Lobbyist and corporations.
$T Debt Added
J. Carter, ,$0.37 T (4 yrs)
R. Reagan, $1.69 T
G. H Bush, $1.4 T (4 yrs)
W. Clinton, $1.627 T
G. W. Bush, $4.357 T
B. Obama, $6.365 T (4 yrs)
B. Obama, $8 T (6 yrs est.)
Yes, we envy the Jewish ability to gain the top positions of power in the USA. But we would like to invite the American Jews to speak out against the Rape of the Taxpayers and our children.
"Yes, we envy the Jewish ability to gain the top positions of power in the USA. But we would like to invite the American Jews to speak out against the Rape of the Taxpayers and our children."
So you have written the names of people in the "top positions of power" but I don't think any of them are Jews. Why didn't you list Jews to back your claim and non Jews to show how a small minority of Americans dominate the top positions of power? How about legitimate statistical analysis of the percentage?
As Groucho Marx ( I think he was Jewish) said "I wouldn't belong to any organization that would have me". So I don't belong to any Jewish Organizations but Jewish is my ancestry. I accept your invitation "to speak out against the Rape of the Taxpayers and our children." Not only do I speak out about this almost daily to as many people as I can but I, like you, invite any and all other groups of various religious orders and any other political, racial, ethnic body to do the same (why is their silence deafening), and I don't mean in anonymous postings like yours. How about bringing it up every time you have the opportunity face to face like I do.
So why do you single out American Jews to speak out when no other religious groups have? Oh, I know, it is only the Jews who are responsible for the global theft and tyranny. Well if it is only the Jews, all those millions of participants in said "Rape" must be collaborators. As the Jews are a tiny minority and responsible for these crimes lets see how many non Jews are willing collaborators. I suggest hunting down all knowingly involved participants in this international crime syndicate and meeting out just punishment.
I am so sick of morons tarring entire nations, ethnic, religious groups, racial groups all with the same smear. Wake up and demand each criminal responsible be brought before the people's court instead of holding up entire large groups for ridicule or destruction because you can't figure out it is single perpetrators who decide to act, not an entire religious order that plots as a united group?
Are you being Positional or just projecting?
Do I have to type words to prove your truth or can I have my truth?
Do you want me to fight with Jews? Or is it okay to admire and envy Jews, but see Lawyers & Bankers as Cowards who never speak out for protecting laws, keeping laws simple, simplifying, streamlining, and standardizing our rules, laws, and taxes, so that accounting and auditing is straight forward and Financial Ratings are honest and straight forward,... and so we don't have to spend millions of dollars in court over principals that we should be very aware of after 6,000 years of laws (Sumarian and Assyrian).
The BAR Association does nothing to preserve clear laws, while careers are made by twisting the laws and winning rulings and writing new legislation.
You think I should attack Jews. You think I should Attack Jews in Public when we know there are things we can not attack without facing attacks. War, US Foreign Wars, US Military and Military Contractors Presence in the ME, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Turkey, Jordan, Afghanistan.
What else can we not discuss in public? Treason and Racketeering by Congress. Congressional Support, Presidential Support of Monopolies in violation of Anti-Trust Laws.
It ain't just Jews. And you ain't that smart.
lincolnsteffens; Thanks for being a mind-reader, fortune teller.
- Since you didn't read, he is my post from yesterdays, the table is set for next...
"Yeah, it is perfectly legal to loot a publicly held corporation, then Leverage up to the Max, Pay Dividends to Insider Investors, complain about profitability, take government subsidies, lobby for tax loopholes & rebates, enjoy federal, state, county, city tax waivers... and then off shore jobs, and even declare bankruptcy in the end.
Sure, Vulture Capitalism.
But also having the Executives enjoy the newest buildings, fanciest offices, fleets of limos, company cars, fuel, travel funds for the best class of travel, best conference centers, company houses and apartments,... Unlimited costs for Overhead Admin Costs,... Top of the Line Compensation Packages.
Lose your job, not big deal, you had most of your expenses paid for anyway.
Identify the Problem:
Greed, Corruption, Cronyism (Networking included), Money in Politics & Government, Money in Elections, Money as Free Speech, War is a Racket, Foreign Policy is a Racket, Party Line of Democracy is a Racket, both political parties are One Political Party.
But Hatred, Prejudice, Racism, divides us and is not right.
They want to divide us by all the social issues, just as they want to give us Butter and Circuses, and play act in front of cameras to use military type propaganda against our own people.
Hatred of Jews is wrong.
Hatred of Whites is wrong.
Hatred of Police and MIC for people that want free speech, want to protest, want to exercise democratic rights... is Wrong.
What are their Goals?
Money, Power, Status, Control,... Globalism, suppression of Labor Force, Titles, Lands, Monopolies, Central Bank Monopolies, Loose Banking Rules, Bank Charters that allow them to create money at will in maximum quantities, they want growth which means to buy up and control more markets and companies and labor forces.
What other Goals do they have? War, MIC Spending, control of Global Resources, more interest and fees on energy, financial services, banking, government..."
No no no, people dislike jewish power and supremacism but are too coward to admit it, so pretend to care about palestinians. Except on the internet but even so.
Jews had plenty of enemies before Israel, before the six day war.
The same zerohedgers than call for the extermination of all non whites and call arabs savages (and rightly so) pretend to care about palestinians.
Buddhist cannons? What are you taking about?
It is a figure of speech from an old style of writing.
Maybe it was an English Style.
It should be Buddhist canons - effectively Buddhist scriptures, religions texts
Thanks for the assist on my bad memory.
"51 percent of American Muslims preferred that they should have their own Shariah courts outside of the legal system ruled by the U.S. Constitution."
Excuse me, but how many native born Americans support a legal system with its own courts outside the legal system ruled by the Constitution of the the United States of America? Would I be far off if I said about 250,000,000? That legal system is the US Federal Government, Inc. and all its subsidiary states and contractors. Just as most American's have given tacit approval of Constitutional violations by state actors they have volunteered to be a part of (silence is consent), why shouldn't any group have volunteers entering its own corp. system of governance?
Think this is far fetched??? It isn't under the same law of contracts and corporations that the Federal Gov. Inc. assumes it has the right to exist.. So stop volunteering and assert and defend your rights of contract not to contract. 1. You must be aware of what you give up in order to have the benefits of the contract. 2. The contract must be fully explained to you if you do not understand it. 3. You must be told what the benefit is for knowingly agreeing to the contract. Thus by definition of the Uniform Commercial Codes most American's have been victims of fraud, conspiracy to commit fraud under the Rico Statutes, and felony treason.
"Without Prejudice" U.C.C. 1-308
"they were supposed to destabilize Assad, not Saudis, Iraqis and Kurds too"
Who told you *that*?
From the "Yinon Plan" to the "Ya’alon Strategy"
by Alfredo Jalife-Rahme
While the United States on the one hand, and France and Turkey on the other, are trying to reshape the Levant in their own way, Alfredo Jalife-Rahme highlights the continuity between the 1982 Oded Yinon Plan and Moshe Ya’alon’s present-day strategy. While endorsing the vision of both plans, Israel continues to pursue its own balkanization agenda. Historically, Israel has always sought to dismember the countries surrounding her.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article186019.html
Context of 'February 1982: Article in Israeli Journal Says Israel Should Exploit Internal Tensions of Arab States'
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islam...
Palace Intrigues probably informed today's European and US Politics and how Washington DC & our spy agencies operate.
Palaces, Church of Rome, Vatican, Jesuits, Communist Party, Premiers, Prime Ministers, House of Lords... Mayors de Palace.
Today is no different than that Egyptian Pharaohs except they killed family members often.
The Manhattan II project is ready and tested. It is time to reveal the Federal Reserve to our enemies. It will destroy their economy, suck out hope and enslave the people, leave only the selected elite to control the society, all without bloodshed. Release the Fed!
There will be blood.
There will be War.
It's a nice idea, but I think bloodshed is part of the Fed's agenda. Without them, war would be prohibively expensive if financely directly from taxes.
The Empire Has No Clothes.
I see a small Putinesque type Pointing to his Ass Holieness and saying
"That jive Turkey is buck Naked" and the crowd looked in disbelief until slowly, they began to see that little prick for the first time.
This Syria conflict is getting more interesting as days go by:
- A Chinese aircraft carrier docks at Tartus to support Russian-Iranian military buildup
- Russian-Syria-Iranian “military coordination cell” in Baghdad
Looks like Israel gets longstaying new neighbours just in the north.
The Russian goodies (and ones supplied by China if the report is true) will not be leaving as long as Israel persists in destroying the ME to create Greater Israel. We know that once ISIS is sorted out, Israel would restart the bs as soon as Russian / China left the area.
debka = garbage
don't dignify their trash with a link
"debka = garbage"
Not really. Debka gives the news that are suited to Israeli intelligence, but it seldom gives totally false news.
In this case, the news is easily verifiable, so it should be true.
...And if it is true, it is REALLY a game-changer!
Debka ought not to worry about China 'dancing at two weddings."
Rather that it will be dancing at two funerals: the US and Israel.
The world powers are sitting down at the table preparing for the meal to be served. Agreements are going to be struck
regarding gas pipeline routes and potential market shares. Collateral damage is simply that, collateral. Blood as
collateral to try and hospice a dying world financial structure. Mammon demands sacrifice. OK, well I'm off to the mall
to buy shit I don't need so the big ball continues to spin. Don't want all those folks in MENA to die for nothing.
I think Lame Duck Obama and Botox face Mr. Kerry should fess up and declare their Syria policy has been a shambles...to make a partial restitution they should immediately begin to.. 1. pay monthly hazardous duty pay to all Syrians who stay in the country... 2. pay monthly refugee pay to all that have left... Hopefully the US can buy its way out of this mess...
It was a sucess. They looted the USA more for MIC and Deep State they murdered hundreds of tousands, they will totally destroy Europe with open borders. A certain group loves chaos because they profit from it.
Only Peasants or Commoners, so what does it matter to FED, TBTF, US Congress, US President, State Representatives, Democracy, Justice, Equality, Fraternity, Liberty, or the US Constitution and our Courts:
"A Saudi Prince sexually abused and beat at least FIVE women during a three-day party in his $37 million Beverly Hills home, a new lawsuit claims.
The graphic new allegations against Majed Abdulaziz Al-Saud, 28, were filed by his alleged victims on Friday night.
It comes two days after the monarch, who does not have diplomatic immunity, was arrested on suspicion of forcing a woman to perform oral sex on him."
"According to the suit seen by the LA Times, Al-Saud's alleged victims described his behavior as 'extreme', 'outrageous', and 'despicable' as they were 'imprisoned' for days.
Police reported a 'party atmosphere' when they arrived at the house after a bleeding woman was allegedly seen trying to climb out of the housing compound.
Officers said they expect more women to begin coming forward with allegations.
Majed was charged with forced oral copulation of an adult on Friday, then quickly released after posting a $300,000 bond.
The Saudi prince is scheduled to be in Los Angeles court October 19th."
"Diplomatic immunity is rolled out to select foreign royalty dependent on their dignitary's status in their own country's government and the level of the offense committed abroad.
Immunity has existed for diplomats and royals more than 50 years and is agreed on by almost every country in the world, even those with frosty international relations such as North Korea.
It was signed into law under the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations to ensure diplomats can represent their nation without being harassed by their hosts.
This is particularly essential in countries that criminalize behavior which would be perfectly acceptable at home, and those that prosecute people for political reasons. Diplomatic immunity is often also extended to members of royalty.
There have been occasional abuses of the system - including the fact that diplomats do not have to pay parking fines. But it is extremely rare for immunity to be waived, and it can only happen with the agreement of the diplomat's home country. Some nations refuse on principle, while most reserve the measure only for serious crimes."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3249530/More-female-staffers-com...
Hey, if Rick James can get away with it... just saying.