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Rumors Persist That The CIA Helps Export Opium From Afghanistan
Submitted by Kit O'Connell via TheAntiMedia.org,
Despite billions spent to eradicate opium crops in Afghanistan, the crop is more popular than ever there, leading many to wonder whether some U.S. forces may actually be encouraging its growth and the heroin it later becomes.
In July, the Centers for Disease Control warned of record-breaking numbers of heroin deaths in the United States. “Heroin use more than doubled among young adults ages 18–25 in the past decade,” the CDC reported.
In the same month, it was reported that opium production is stronger than ever in Afghanistan, which now produces 90 percent of the world’s supply of the plant that’s refined to create heroin. This rise in production would have been impossible prior to the U.S.-led invasion, and it comes despite some $8.4 billion spent in counternarcotics efforts by the U.S., specifically designated to wipe out opium production in Afghanistan.
In fact, as Global Post reported in October, under the watchful eye of the U.S., opium use expanded to new parts of Afghanistan and growers now make use of modern, advanced agricultural technologies.
With photos circulating in 2010 that show U.S. soldiers patrolling opium fields, questions remain about what America’s real involvement may be in the opium trade. As Abby Martin noted in a 2014 investigation for Media Roots, while the Taliban had all but eradicated opium, it began to thrive just months after American forces replaced the Taliban-led government in 2001.
Martin noted that the CIA has long been tied to the global drug trade, where it’s accused of putting more effort into controlling rather than eradicating illicit substances. She added,
“Circumstantial evidence aside, there is no conclusive proof that the CIA is physically running opium out of Afghanistan. However, it’s hard to believe that a region under full US military occupation – with guard posts and surveillance drones monitoring the mountains of Tora Bora – aren’t able to track supply routes of opium exported from the country’s various poppy farms (you know, the ones the US military are guarding).”
According to a January report from Mother Jones, the DEA agent formerly in charge of the agency’s efforts in Afghanistan reported repeated conflict between DEA eradication efforts and CIA agents:
“[Edward] Follis says the DEA and CIA often bumped heads in Afghanistan. … While hinting that the CIA sometimes turned a blind eye to the Afghan drug trade, Follis won’t get into specifics. In his book, [‘The Dark Art: My Undercover Life in Global Narco-Terrorism,’] he writes, ‘Almost everywhere in the world I worked, I had static with the CIA. We’re often working the same terrain, but with different legal and moral parameters … They exist completely in the shadows.’”
Among the groups profiting off the Afghan opium trade — and the failed efforts to eradicate it — is the mercenary group Academi, better known by its former name, Blackwater. In April, RT reported that Academi earned $569 million from counternarcotics contracts in Afghanistan.
“[T]he notorious company has been the biggest beneficiary of counternarcotics expenditure in the war-torn country,” RT wrote.
Watch “The Worst Narco-State in History? After 13-Year War, Afghanistan’s Opium Trade Floods the Globe” below:
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Rumors? Nigga please.
Yeah. How about telling us something we don't know.
Old shit different day.
I did this job for this one military girl a while back and she absolutely bought the anti-drug .gov official story hook-line & sinker. With a straight face she actually said they were there to offer classes to the Afghans about growing other crops-like corn instead. LMFAO
Anyone remember Iran Contra?
Of Course the CIA is dealing Heroin.
How else is it possible for Afghanistan to have record crops of Poppies? Do you believe that the reason the crops are not eradicated is because the USSA wants to win the 'hearts and minds' of the Afghani farmers? LMAO!
What's the EFT for Opium? Sounds promising.
Throughout the Soviet occupation of Afganastan opium production flourished; then with their ouster and subsequent rise of the Taliban
it's estimated that production dropped by 90+%, and remained that low until---what?---yes, then US invasion and voila! the smack train
is back on the tracks. We're #1, we're #1, we're--aww, fuck it.
Apparently opium is the perfect crop to grow in war zones. Anyone have access to this article?
http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/REST_a_00418#.VgdtAJd6fzJ
At least we can be pretty confident that Air America has upgraded from surplus C-47’s to surplus C-130’s.
..and where is the picture of Hillary with green make-up and her flying monkey looking at those boy-lovers through a crystal ball?
And so the death and history repeats forward
http://ncoic.com/heroin-2.htm
6. While serving as a legal Associate at the Wall Street law firm of Cahill, Gordon, Sonnett, Rheindle and Ohio under partner Theodore Shackley and Thomas Clines directed the Phoenix Project in Vietnam, in 1974 and 1975, which carried out the secret mission of assassinating members of the economic and political bureaucracy inside Vietnam to cripple the ability of that nation to function after the total US withdrawal from Vietnam. This Phoenix Project, during its history, carried out the political assassination, in Vietnam, of some 60,000 village mayors, treasurers, school teachers and other non-Viet Cong administrators. Theodore Shackley and Thomas Clines financed a highly intensified phase of the Phoenix project, in 1974 and 1975, by causing an intense flow of Vang Pao opium money to be secretly brought into Vietnam for this purpose. This Vang Pao opium money was administered for Theodore Shackley and Thomas Clines by a US Navy official based in Saigon's US office of Naval Operations by the name of Richard Armitage. However, because Theodore Shackley, Thomas Clines and Richard Armitage knew that their secret anti-communist extermination program was going to be shut down in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, and Thailand in the very near future, they, in 1973, began a highly secret non-CIA authorized program Thus, from late 1973 until April of 1975, Theodore Shackley, Thomas Clines and Richard Armitage disbursed, from the secret, Laotian-based, Vang Pao opium fund, vastly more money than was required to finance even the highly intensified Phoenix Project in Vietnam. The money in excess of that used in Vietnam was secretly smuggled out of Vietnam in large suitcases, by Richard Secord and Thomas Clines and carried into Australia, where it was deposited in a secret, personal bank account (privately accessible to Theodore Shackley, Thomas Clines and Richard Secord). During this same period of time between 1973 and 1975, Theodore Shackley and Thomas Clines caused thousands of tons of US weapons, ammunition, and explosives to be secretly taken from Vietnam and stored at a secret "cache" hidden inside Thailand.
The "liaison officer" to Shackley and Clines and the Phoenix Project in Vietnam, during this 1973 to 1975 period, from the "40 Committee" in the Nixom White House was one Eric Von Arbod an Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs. Von Arbod shared his information about the Phoenix Project directly with his supervisor Henry Kissinger.
Why doesn't someone ask our illustrious AG why, how and where does all the heroin come from? Shouldn't she know and know how to stop it? With all the power and might of the US DOJ thsi should be child's play. Miz Lynch? Uh, Miz Lynch???
One fine day, perhaps already, the elites will be poisoning their products, including heroin, cocaine, pot.
They poisoned quite a bit of industrial alcohol during prohibition without notice, poisoning and maiming thousands. But that's cool, because prohibition.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2010/0...
Murder is fucking fun when you're a government goon.
"Before hospital staff realized how sick he was—the alcohol-induced hallucination was just a symptom—the man died. So did another holiday partygoer. And another. As dusk fell on Christmas, the hospital staff tallied up more than 60 people made desperately ill by alcohol and eight dead from it. Within the next two days, yet another 23 people died in the city from celebrating the season.
Doctors were accustomed to alcohol poisoning by then, the routine of life in the Prohibition era. The bootlegged whiskies and so-called gins often made people sick. The liquor produced in hidden stills frequently came tainted with metals and other impurities. But this outbreak was bizarrely different. The deaths, as investigators would shortly realize, came courtesy of the U.S. government."
Ever wonder why the CIA has its own fleet of drones? Or why before that, it ran a "rendition" program. Now you know.
We have priciples......unless we can make a little hush cash on the side.
Now shut the hell up....or we're gonna raise gas taxes on your asses.
Are you crazy!?! We've got fucking corruption in FIFA--yes! FIFA. Get your priorities in order man!
and the Phoenix program landed back home here in the USA :
The Phoenix Has Landed: a New Introductionhttps://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/07/douglas-valentine/cia-terrorism-brou...
By Douglas Valentine
July 3, 2014
Ten years after the publication of The Phoenix Program, I wrote a series of articles on the subject for Counterpunch magazine. The Clinton administration had popularized neoliberalism, hammered labor through NAFTA, and dismantled welfare. Conservatives were speaking of a “new American century” based on belligerent nationalism. The time seemed right to warn of the dangers.
The first of these articles, “Rob Simmons, the CIA, and the Issue of War Crimes in Vietnam: The Spook Who Would Be a Congressman,” appeared in November 2000.
As a CIA advisor to the Special Branch of the South Vietnamese Police, Simmons managed a secret interrogation center and a vast informant network in order to identify and locate members of the Viet Cong Infrastructure (VCI). Simmons then mounted paramilitary and psychological warfare operations against suspected “secret agents” who were administering the revolution in Phú Yên Province.
The people Simmons spied on, harassed, kidnapped, interrogated, and assassinated were civilians protected under the Geneva Conventions. He worked with the Phoenix program and what he did, in my opinion, amounted to war crimes.
Simmons, however, represented the nation’s renewed, aggressive spirit, and longing to rid itself of the Vietnam Syndrome. He was elected to Congress in November 2000 and quickly became a member of the House Homeland Security Committee, as well as chairman of the Subcommittee on Intelligence, Information Sharing, and Terrorism Risk Assessment.
My second article, “Fragging Bob: Bob Kerrey, CIA War Crimes, and the Need for a War Crimes Trial,” appeared in May 2001. The piece followed revelations that former Nebraska senator Bob Kerrey, as a member of a Navy SEAL team on a Phoenix mission in South Vietnam in 1969, participated in the killing of a dozen women and children in Thanh Phong village. Kerrey claimed the civilians were caught in a crossfire, but their bodies were found grouped together, as if they had been rounded up and executed.
Kerrey told the New York Times, “Standard operating procedure was to dispose of the people we made contact with. Kill the people we made contact with, or we have to abort the mission.”
According to the rules of land warfare, what Kerrey and his SEAL unit did was unlawful and amounted to a war crime. But again, in the spirit of the times, his crimes were rationalized away.
The articles about CIA officer Simmons and Navy SEAL Kerrey contrasted the stated purpose of the Phoenix program, which was to protect the people from terrorism, with its operational reality—the pacification of the South Vietnamese population through terrorism, through the same tactics employed by the Gestapo and Einsatzgruppen in the Second World War.
Created by the CIA in 1967 and headquartered in Saigon, the Phoenix program coordinated all military, police, and intelligence agencies in South Vietnam in pursuit of civilian members of the VCI. To this end the CIA created Intelligence and Operations Coordinating Centers (IOCCs) at region, province, and district levels. A particular IOCC would amass data on suspects in its area of operations, through informants and the CIA’s brutal interrogation centers, and then mount targeted operations using police, regular military, and special operations forces, as well as the CIA’s notorious counterterror teams.
To facilitate this sweeping method of population control, every citizen’s biographical data was fed into a computer at the Phoenix Directorate in Saigon. The Directorate was managed by a senior CIA officer whose job was to funnel information on top-ranking members of the VCI to the CIA station, where the staff attempted to turn these people into penetration agents who could report on the enemy’s strategies, plans, and allies in North Vietnam.
Any South Vietnamese citizen could become a VCI suspect based on the word of an anonymous informant. The suspect was then arrested, indefinitely detained in a CIA interrogation center like the one that Congressman Rob Simmons managed, and tortured until he or she (in some cases children as young as twelve) confessed, informed on others, died, or was brought before a military tribunal for disposition.
At the height of the program, Phoenix managers imposed quotas of eighteen hundred “neutralizations” per month on the CIA officers and soldiers in the field. The unstated intention was to corrupt the system, and the CIA succeeded in this effort. Crooked security officers, policemen, politicians, and racketeers began to extort loyal civilians as well as enemy agents. As one CIA officer put it, Phoenix was “a very good blackmail scheme for the central government. ‘If you don’t do what I want, you’re VC.’”
Warning: America’s democratic institutions are on the brink of being similarly corrupted, and for the same insidious purpose: the political control of its citizens through terrorism, on behalf of the rich military-industrial-political elite who rule our society.
Indeed, America’s security forces were always aware of the domestic applications of the Phoenix, and the program has not only come to define modern American warfare, it is the model for our internal “homeland security” apparatus as well. It is with the Phoenix program that we find the genesis of the paramilitarization of American police forces in their role as adjuncts to military and political security forces engaged in population control and suppression of dissent.
In the wake of September 11, 2001, my articles about the Phoenix program became more relevant than ever before. The third, “Homeland Insecurity,” appeared on October 1, 2001, and predicted that the government would establish Phoenix-style “extra-legal military tribunals that can try suspected terrorists without the ordinary legal constraints of American justice.”
The United States soon established detention centers at Guantánamo in Cuba, Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan, and at the infamous Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. And the CIA established “black sites” around the world
It is because of operations like these that I realistically do not see the U.S. moving to digital currencies anytime soon.
There are far to many cash-based operations underway funding of other activities that should not come under congressional scrutiny.
Digital cash leaves far to many footprints.
Well hell tangible cash leaves some footprints also, but even being caught red handed doesn't matter if the system
is corrupt and complicit. Just pay the cursory, cost of doing business, fine and keep calm and carry on. Going
digital won't cripple the folks that "matter" or the deep state. That shit's for the "little people", to be sure all
the turnip blood is bottled and dispensed as deemed necessary. Footprints only matter if they're looked at.
This is largely true. However once the 'product' hits the street the 'little people' need cash in order to buy it without leaving a digital trail.
The folks running the drugs are going to be the same ones who set up and control the flow of electrons that now represent your money. I don't think they will be that worried about "footprints".
Two words:
Consultants fees
Put that on your digital statement. No one will be the wiser
Perhaps one faction is pushing digital because they know they cannot control the CIA faction unless that happens. If they get close to digital expect a lot of dead bankers and pols.
Forget it - the parent company with the biggest market share has $18 Trillion in debt.
18 is to US Debt as sub 7% is to unemployment
BAC. But I wouldn't trade 'em 'coz they have lots or other stuff that's not so great.
Contra, shmontra! Come on LL, don't you believe Geraldo when he tells you the US marines are 'victims of their own success' and that they must 'tolerate' the cultivation and that it just 'grinds at the gut' of the CO to have to 'watch over' as the 'Taliban' continue to grow this scourge at ever increasing quotas, lest they 'disappoint' the enemy and cause a 'security risk'.
A walk down memory lane:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUATfLDiwVA
Black hearts and twisted minds is all I see.
Interesting that when US was in SE Asia all the heroin came from there.
Coincidence? I don't think so.
The USA has also been getting some pretty good ROI on the billions invested in "Plan Colombia".
All that off the books money is good for the black budget.
don't forget
the USA Camp Bondsteel (aka Kosovo)
as a major crime hub serving Europe.
Probably GMO corn.
Push the poison
That can't be true. Let's check out some chart porn. Oh, that's most unfortunate.
Although you could have simply asked one of the several thousand U.S. and U.K. soldiers and marines unfortunate enough to have been sent to the hell-hole we created in Afghanistan. They could have told you exactly what we were doing there over a decade ago. In fact, they did - nobody listened.
HAH!!!
merely:
"rumours ... leading many to wonder"
MY LINK to more stuff that anyone who bothers to investigate may find out regarding the bullshit-based, bankster benefiting, "War on (some) Drugs," which was mostly the war on marijuana, when that plant can be traced back by botany to the general area of Afghanistan roughly 80 million years ago: troops battle 10-ft Afghan marijuana
Also, read Doug Valentine's books, The Strength of the Wolf and The Strength of the Pack. Doug interviewed top people in the CIA, DEA, NBDD and the FBN and has them on tape. The whole 'war on drugs' is a farce and illicit drug distribution is coordinated by the CIA.
Gotta secure "The Royals" revenue stream don'tcha know.
"We tried burning them with white phosphorous -- it didn't work. We tried burning them with diesel -- it didn't work. The plants are so full of water right now ... that we simply couldn't burn them," he said."
And they made the whole world buy and believe that the Jews were burnt in heaps of 1000s on a regular fire, disintegrating every piece of bone into ash. While apparently not even white phosphorous and diesel could do the trick on mere plants. And while we are at it, for the first time in history, every law of physics took a break on the day of Sept. 11.
A disguasting food for thought...
It's like crystal meth did not prove efficient enough in killing American goyim, so to complete the mission, ZOG made sure to bring a peck of heroin from Afghanistan (through the world's biggest heroin trade hub, Camp Bondsteel in _Kosovo_), enough for everyone
Heroin Gains Popularity as Cheap Doses Flood the U.S.: http://time.com/4505/heroin-gains-popularity-as-cheap-doses-flood-the-u-s/
1) And a great while ago, when the world was full of wonders:
June 13, 2001
Taliban's Eradication of Poppies Is Convulsing Opium Market: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/13/world/taliban-s-eradication-of-poppies-is-convulsing-opium-market.html
2) 2005, by Professor Michel Chossudovsky.
The Spoils of War: Afghanistan’s Multibillion Dollar Heroin Trade
Washington's Hidden Agenda: Restore the Drug Trade:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-spoils-of-war-afghanistan-s-multibillio...
3) 2012, By F. William Engdahl
Kosovo’s “Mafia State” and Camp Bondsteel: Towards a Permanent US Military Presence in Southeast Europe
Washington’s Bizarre Kosovo Strategy could destroy NATO:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/kosovo-s-mafia-state-and-camp-bondsteel-tow...
4) 2014, by Washington's Blog
Drug War? American Troops Are Protecting Afghan Opium. U.S. Occupation Leads to All-Time High Heroin Production
http://www.globalresearch.ca/drug-war-american-troops-are-protecting-afg...
5) 2015
Afghan Opium Harvesting Protected by British Occupation Forces
Opium Harvesting, c.200 metres from Camp Bastion Airfield Perimeter
http://www.globalresearch.ca/afghan-opium-harvesting-protected-by-britis...
http://www.theguardian.com/global/2009/dec/13/drug-money-banks-saved-un-...
It's just a coincidence that heroin was not all that plentiful around 2000 when the Taliban were running Afghanistan... and Americans were getting hooked on prescription Oxy..... fast forward and after the US has been in Afghanistan for over a dozen years and Heroin is now an 'epidemic' in the US - and the substitute of choice for all the Oxy addicts who can't get any more after the crackdown on prescription drug abuse.....
Huxley got it wrong.... the masses are paying for their own SOMA to distract them from their crappy jobless lives - while making themselves liable to arrest as a criminal for using an illicit substance..... TPTB profit from the drug sales while creating a permanent criminal class that can be arrested at will to fill prisons run for profit.....
what a mess.....
The primary reason the for the US invasion of Afganistan was the nose dive in production of Opium in 2001. Afghanistan produces most of the worlds Opium.
That drug money is a big card, low on the house of the fractional reserve global ponzi financial system.
The Taliban suddenly outlawed the farming of it and as you can see in this chart it fell to nothing. When that dries up overnight it creates a chain reaction and messes shit up.
The US Military invaded and promptly formented the environment to increase production and it is now at record levels, even higher than before the Taliban outlawed it.
http://postimg.org/image/etkw61e1j/
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/13/world/asia/afghan-elections-cited-as-f...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanistan
"Rumors"?
HAHAHAHA that shit is fact and has been for a long time.
You are absolutely correct- a friend of mine worked for the CIA actually doing this.
Is this your friend, obviously cia botanist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbIFmPBsN7Q
@Chupa
Same as it ever was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98AJUj-qxHI
If you want a better perspective on the War on Drugs and it's real effect. Watch this very entertaining podcast with Joe Rogan.
Dr. Carl Hart, Coumbia University professor, a leading authority on the psychological and psychiatric effects of dugs on humans, cuts through the propaganda and has a very different spin on the use of drugs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMsquUcea-E
If it involves the potential for LOTS OF MONEY, then count the US in.
How they fund ISIS.
According to Dr. Jim Willie it is what keeps the big money center banks in business laundering the money.
How big is this drug business? My guess is easily $500 billion a year and most of it is profit.
What happened during Vietnam War? What caskets were stuffed with drugs?
Which air force bases were used to run drugs? Rammstein, Incirlik and probably during Nam it was Hawaii and California.
They were flying drugs into the old Marine base at El Toro and when Colonel Sabow found out about it, he was going to blow the whistle so they blew his head off instead: http://www.colonelsabow.com/
I'm shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED!!!
R.I.P. Gary Webb
Amen to that. RIP Gary Webb.
Compare what he did to the drivel that passes for journalism today.
However, while it is shocking indeed, it's already a decades old fact. As far as I know, at least since the early 1980s, when the CIA smugled cocaine from Latin America to the US by the Hercules plane loads to fund the by the Congress prohibited military support of Nicaragua's Contras, operating from Honduras and Costa Rica.
But it's hard to continue to feel shocked for 30+ years: shock turns into anger.
Yup, cia Chip Tatum talks about the cocaine and daddy Bush at the cocaine presses in Honduras.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyEoRck0abA
more than 30 years,
Air America - Vietnam
I also hear rumors the Fed might not raise rates next month. Poppy-cock.
A free market would end the war on drugs. Those in power hate the idea.
I, for one, am happy that Langley has returned to a more respectable trade than their
recent one.Nice to see our tax dollars invested rather than squandered like the rest
of .gov
Oh wait....
How else do you expect the Pure Evil Criminal Psychpaths at the CIA to fund Destabiliaztion Campaigns of Soverign Nations then, turn around & Launder the money through the Tax Payer Bailed out TBTFBanksters?
While, simultaneously stealing the Natural Resouces of said, destabilized country. All in a day's work of Skull Druggery.
If you can entice people to support you with money, then right and wrong becomes irrelevant.
And if right and wrong are irrelevant then it attracts the embezzle from government types.
Not exactly a shocking development...
WTF is this insult to people's intelligence posing as an article doing on ZH!?
This is for the uninitiated. There's pre-zh and post-zh.
I guess you are totally unaware of the number of stock, bond and commodities market traders that have been amped up ion all kinds of illegal shit. Personally I know of one that lost his pit seat at the Chicago Merc. .. and it ain't stopped yet.
So it wasn't about oil pipelines at all, it was about Hopium? ;-)
Most of these adventures are multi purpose.
I assume you are thinking north to south pipelines, but not thinking about the
east west ones that were blocked.Just as important for Uncle Scam.The drug trade
is mere icing on the cake.
Well, call me an ultra-cynic (lol) but I fail to see the long term "western" profitability (ROI) logic in building an oil pipeline through a region that is one of the most notoriously tribal, fiercely independent, ruled by warlords, with shifting alliances and where all of them think (culturally) that holding a person hostage (or a pipeline) for ransom is just the way "we do business".
Prolly jus me tho.
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OMG, I'm being "democratically" out voted!...lmao!...this clearly must mean that building an oil pipeline through one of THE MOST unstable regions on the face of the fucking planet makes good business sense!
I stand in awe of the horde, as always ;-)
Pay the toll, as caravans have for centuries.and
there isn't a problem.
Don't pay it, and get shot at by tribesman, with a flintlock in my case,poor aim thank dog, but a spincter tester.
Uncle Scam doesn't think those rules apply to them.
I always found eastern Turkey far more menacing myself.
So, when another warlord isn't "getting his taste" or one of the paid underlings decides to "cut funding" to his master, to how should we say...usurp his power...and oil floods all over barren rock (better than mangroves I guess...but still) there is some sort of renegotiation process already in place to get the juice flowing again, with "someone".
And THAT PRICE would be...wut?
You are thinking like a westerner.
Unless a lot has changed in 40 years, after centuries of
non change, they are not westerners.
I always found Afghanistan to be a breathe of fresh
7th cemtury air.
Few places where you can walk in somewhere(a chai shop)
and be galloping a strangers prize stallion ten minutes later.Friendly as hell if you treat them right, your worst
nightmare if you don't.
I never said they were "westerners". In fact I was making the absolute point they are not. Good, bad or indifferent, it doesn't make sense to build an oil pipeline through, as you say, "if you don't treat them right" on any level?, a place where they will cut it off.
I don't have a problem with Afghani people per se, if that's what you were implying.
I got a big fucking problem with some of their "cultural" pedophilia tho.
The west should sort out its own pedophilia at high levels of society before it points the fingers at others.
I thought the old ways of justice worked perfectly well myself, catch em-kill em, at all levels.
At forty seconds in...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PUE8fYxjq8
...DRT...Dead-Right-There.
You talk as if paedophilia was confined to the moslem world.
Your bias is showing.
The geographry is what it is, and I'd trust an Afghan's word(freely given) more than
a lot of western peoples I do biz with.
Point taken on both counts. I'll rephrase then, me being a true capitalist I wouldn't build an oil pipeline through Afghanistan with my money.
Theres the nub of it.
Its far cheaper to go across Afghanistan, even paying the tolls, than shipping it or going across
Russia. Apart from the geopolitical leverage angle.
Very capitalistic.
It's not "cheap" when they blow a hole in it, there's just no oil coming through it.
Again, pay your toll and your pipeline will be guarded by the local tribesmen, not blown up.
Just the cost of doing biz, a royalty is its makes it more palatable to you.
We have national organized crime aka .gov, they have localized/tribalized crime.
I prefer the latter myself.
lol...that's a lot of tribesmen standing around on guard duty. You almost sound like you're advocating for a pipeline to go through there Winston ;-)
Me on the other hand, not at all.
Would make a pleasant change from invading armies.Its been a war torn wreck for most of the last
two millenia.Time they had some peace.
Yeah, I hear ya. Many don't know it but there's a bloodline going all the way back to Alexander inside Afghanistan.
A picture's worth a thousand words ;-)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6214794/Taliban-targets-descendants-of-A...
Hah - you certainly have your fans, nmewn. I was going to post on that, but thought you might enjoy some thought-provoking maps.
Here's one: spot the secret market access route if you can.
Then there's the supposed pipeline causing all the ruckus. 30 ft. burial and poppy fields on top can do wonders for pipeline security in an unstable region. Academi/Xe will be gald to fill in the gaps. I think some 12-year-old boys would have to be part of the deal, as well as bundles of U.S. FRNs.
Then there's the alternate route (after Iran's overthrow and destruction). While the alternate route appears to send Iranian gas Eastward, the bulk of the gas would actualy come from ISIS-funders Qatar. It would be child's play to run a line from the North Dome/Pars Field onshore in Iran. India and China represent insatiable customers. They could run a ten-foot in diameter line to India alone and they wouldn't be able to pump gas fast enough in it to satisfy Indian demand. China would just be icing on the cake.
I luuuv "my fans"...lol...especially the ones that knee jerk hate everything I say, they make it easy and I don't know that 30' of cover means a whole lot, a normal back road is 20' in width give or take and unless they're going to encase it in concrete (to make it slightly less vulnerable) it's just not viable.
Now on a side note, the Qataris are in fact fucking Sunni snakes in the grass, on a par with the Turks but whatever "plans" either may have for "Afgoneeestawn" (lol) is irrelevant, the "folks" on the ground there are the final arbiter's of what passes through.
And I can tell you with 100% certainty that doesn't make good business sense.
Exactly. We'll see what kind of protection 30' of dirt over a pipeline buys them - this is what they're doing in Iraq on the Blood-for-Oil pipeline. I'm thinking they're going to have some gopher problems.
Re Qatar: When the House of Saud falls and Saudi Arabia goes all Lybia, their neighbor Qatar will be next. Everyone hates those fuckers.
BTW, the Saudi's front-end loaders for scooping up dead worshippers in Mina is just bad taste.
Whenever I closely cropped photos with areas highlighted, I think hmmm, what do they not want me to see?
Here is a tweet showing a slightly different set of views with bodies neatly placed to one side and a dumper clearing rubbish. That gives a substantially different iimpression.
https://twitter.com/alialahmed/status/642396806349983744
For the mouth-breathers and knuckle-draggers, this does not mean I support the Saudi regime. I do not. I just support truth.
Some people have a real big sweet tooth, like Bill and Hillary when they where in Arkansas
It wasn't about Osama either. It still amazes me that people fell for that one. I've had brainwashed people get red faced-angry when I tell them he was a total lie to cover for the invasion. Then, when I bring up the poppy question, they look at me like a confused dog.
Mark Twain: "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Time to invest in a Chinese piss testing company. Old tricks die hard. Some one is way to fasniated with "Enter the Dragon". I pity S. Korea, it will hit hard there.
Gona get worse as funding slips away, they will be coming after your children / customers
Would be interesting to see where it is refined and processed into our favorite pain meds. Wonder if Blackwater is in charge of deliveries.
The CIA has been in the drug business for decades. Basic corpocrisy, JNJ and MDT (former COV) sell more dope than all the East and West Coast street gangs combined. The CIA 'licenses' their proxy warriors du jour to grow and export the dope, which goes to a combination of legal sellers (JNJ/MDT) and the cartels. This funding is handy for those (rare) occasions Congress doesnt want to know anything about the ways-and-means of the effort, or when the CIA wants to be involved without the (loose) oversight that comes with asking Congress for $$. When one discovers the magnitude of the illegality of our .gov agencies, the decision to stand for liberty becomes easier.
Oh, back to JNJ and MDT, despite all the memes about the FDA and its 'safety-first' mantra, ALL, and I mean 100% of the narcotics sold by JNJ and MDT have NEVER been FDA-approved. The fucked up logic goes that SO many Americans take opiates that the FDA could never pull them off the market in order to complete the appropriate safety studies. You would think consumers would at least want to know which country their opiate came from. You know, like SBUX's 'Fair Trade' beans. Try finding that info on your Percocet or Vicodin script, or in the financial reports of JNJ or MDT. It's not there. And one of reasons is that the CIA doesn't want any info on their dope running reaching the unsuspecting US citizen who is merely trying to numb himself from the shitstorm raging outside his door every day.
Hasn't it become pretty much a fact that the U.S. army IS the opium industry in Afghanistan?
This is just very disheartening. When the CIA joined with Harvard professors to make very high THC marijuana it makes you think. Then this.
They want to kill their own people.
And the rest of the .gov complex just sits around and watches.
I would never work for the CIA. I couldn't ever trust anyone that was so frequently responsible for murders and betrayals.
If they need something you have like a skill, a contact, information or expertise.
It isn’t just a matter of politely declining a job offer.
They don’t recruit,……….they coerce.
Sometimes staying out of their employ is a big hairy chess game.
~ DC
And there's the FBI down at the MLK statue worshiping the leader of the most destructive culture ever introduced to the USA while their buddies over at CIA are further screwing up this country all in the name of a worthless 2.61 inches wide and 6.14 inches long piece of paper that the jews want to use to control the world.
Time to move to Russia. There are very few positive articles regurgitated by goog about moving to Russia. Obvious work of the sick fucks at CIA.
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/14-05-2012/121102-americans_...
I wonder how Comey was selected? Did Obama do a cattle call for "whoever's willing to worship MLK"? No one could be that naive as to think these savages could change overnight, no one.
you're wrong on that one.. it was the doubling of the genes and well published in HIGH TIMES in the late 1970's. Chromosome doulbing.. giant seed. It was being done in Nornmal Illinois after that at the University.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrDheQBb2og
Disgusting people. Heroin is the great destroyer.
How many in gov. are using, from Bill & George W. on down?
rumor? after soviets left and usa invaded afganistan the opiate production boomed 4000%
they transport the opium in military machines to the designated location
also diplomats cant be checked for drugs they just smuggle drugs, gold and diamonds
The establishment Foreign Affairs adimitted our involvement years ago. To quote: They omit, though, that this policy has been escalated by the Obama administration, whose special representative to Afghanistan, Richard C. Holbrooke, in the summer of 2009 rightly criticized the policy of eradication (“The poppy farmer is not our enemy. The Taliban are.”), only to add that eradication would still continue, only in limited areas– which effectively meant that poppy cultivation in areas under Taliban control would be targeted, but in areas under U.S. control it could continue. Following that announcement, it emerged that the U.S. military was pursuing a policy of targeting drug traffickers with ties to insurgent groups – and only those drug traffickers with ties to insurgent groups.
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2011/04/09/the-afghan-drug-trade-and...
They protect the Big Banks laundering the money for the Debt-Money Monopolist directed mega-drug cartels...
How a big US bank laundered billions from Mexico's murderous drug gangs
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/03/us-bank-mexico-drug-gangs
Note that nobody was charged criminally, no drug money was confiscated, no drug money was taxed, and nobody was fired except the whistleblower.
Banks Financing Mexico Drug Gangs Admitted in Wells Fargo Deal
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2010-06-29/banks-financing-mexico...
Note that the planes leased with drug money in order to fly the drugs across the border were NOT confiscated...
Juxtapose that fact to innocent ordinary people having their assets seized by the billions in civil asset seizure.
The DEA is partying with drug cartel prostitutes (search it yourself!) when they aren't escorting tons of cocaine across the boarder for the very same cartel that laundered up to $378 billion in drug money with Wachovia...
Documents: Feds allegedly allowed Sinaloa cartel to move cocaine into U.S. for information
http://archive.elpasotimes.com/ci_18608410
Anyone who loses a loved one to Heroin in the US now knows who the responsible parties are: senior people at Langley and Academi.
Go let them know how you feel. Let it all out.
Blackwater is evil. You get the chance, take that shot, and feel real good about it afterward.
Bayer pharmaceutical is also resoponsible for heroin
Since heroin is way more pricey than gold, maybe they are stocking up at Fort Knox.. it there is a nuke war, it will be in high demand... and monetization of said asset.
There's an endgame, though - they can't take more than everything.
The other big rumor that won't go away is the CIA was behind the crack cocaine wave in the 80's. Sure was a lot of it around.
Yep.
CIA stands for Cocaine Importing Agency and has nothing to do with heroin, which is NSA's domain...
The CIA would never do that, you think they would arrange some kind of 'dark alliance'?
After learning the CIA used the Gates Foundation vaccine program to harvest DNA over in Pakistan (allegedly to find Obama bin Ladin), is there any longer a question as to whether they would sell drugs to advance their agendas?!?
When I read something like this, that is SO late to the party. It is either one of three things:
1) Controlled Opposition
2) Not all that bright to begin with.
3) Both
Which begs the question. Why ZH, Tylers are you doing this to begin with? You present info that is so old and dated, that you make everyone else here dumber, for those that actually fall for it.
Rumors? Try again ..
http://www.veteranstoday.com/?s=CIA+drug+traffic+Afghanistan
These bogus Russia and China troop movement stories in Syria have got to stop. Grow a pair and start acting like adults! By promulgating Pentagram/Bush-CIA propaganda makes you complicit with the problem. At some point, you will start dispensing with all other sources (which have been exposed as Bush-CIA/Mossad/City of London/MI6 cut-outs) and start featuring the only western based news and intelligence source the Syrian govt. will trust ..
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/09/26/duff-back-alive/
Enough of this Bovine Excrement!
Ok fucktard, why not refute the argument that was presented. You can support the assertion that the CIA is NOT 'kingpin making' within the narcotics growing and distribution industry.
"Russia intends to step up its military involvement in Syria to preven the "imminent" collapse of the Syrian government, the EU's foreign policy chief has told Al Jazeera.
Federica Mogherini's comments on Saturday follow reports that 500 Russian troops have been deployed to a forward operating base in the Syrian port city of Latakia.
In an interview with Al Jazeera's James Bays for Talk to Al Jazeera, the EU's high representative for foreign affairs and security policy said Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told her his country wanted to prevent the collapse of the Syrian state."
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/russia-troops-syria-stop-imminent-...
Are you calling the uhhh, "high representative for foreign affairs and security policy" a liar or are you calling Lavrov a liar? ;-)
Al Jazeera is headqaurtered and financed by? Qatar.
You know who is helping finance ISIS, NUSRA, ISIL and the rest because they want a pipeline through Syria?
Qatar.
Stop being so f**king stupid man.
True. Not to mention our other "allies" in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain and Kuwait. Their princes and businessmen fund ISIS and (the Saudis) claim to be the "Custodians of the Two Holy Places" while themselves holding wild sex and drugs parties and exploiting migrant workers from around the world. I hope that there is a hell, just so these corrupt royals can go there.
WTF Freddie!? You can piss & moan about what multiple sources are saying RIGHT UP TO THE POINT that St.Pooty walks into your house and say's "Da, ve support Assad" or RT or Pravda confirms it but it doesn't change THE FACTS.
My point still stands, there are Russian troops in Syria (and there's going to be a lot more) and St.Pooty IS NOT going to allow his ally Assad to fall to a bunch of seventh century "holy warriors".
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/10/us-mideast-crisis-syria-exclus...
Citing to veteranstoday, eh?
Well I guess you've got it all figured out and ain't no one gonna fool you!
ahh........the Opium wars........wait, that was the british empire......take a page out of the zio-british playbook..........
does this sound familiar?
''For example, in October 1941, Franklin Roosevelt delivered a nationwide address in which he said that he had in his possession a captured German map of South America tracing out the planned Nazi invasion of Brazil. The map had been skillfully created by a British team in Toronto and passed on to the White House. It was used by Roosevelt for pressuring Congress to repeal some of the neutrality legislation. ''
http://justice4germans.com/2012/10/31/wwii-uk-and-us-psyops-exposed-stil...
Where did Meyer Lanksy make his early money? Running heroin from Mexico into the USA.
Just another reason why these people want open borders.
And everyone thinks we attacked Afghanistan to find OBL...What a crock. The Taliban were cutting off the spooks black ops money.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/13/world/taliban-s-eradication-of-poppies...
Folks,,, the capitol isn't Washington DC,,,, it's Langley Va.
Edit: Note the Date of the article.
Great link, Rejected.
Wish I'd read your post before entering mine below.
Kudos.
The NYT article at your link documents the decline of Afghani opium production. It doesn't document the US exporting opium from Afghanistan.
C'mon, someone real show some photos of US soldiers guarding opium factories or loading opium on transport planes.
Tylers, this article is click bait.
CIA are nothing but punk ass criminals that suck wall st cock all day
Holy smokes! Who'd a ever thunk it? Welcome to 1964!
ZH is like the little girl who had a little curl right in the middle of her forehead. When it's good, it's very, very good, and when it is bad it is terrible. Oh, yeah, and horrid, too!
I'm either going to have this piece stuffed and mounted on my wall or bronzed to use as a paper weight. I haven't decided yet. But it takes the all-time prize for d-u-u-u-m-b ZH scoops.
If this was news to anyone at all, please raise your hands. Oh, there's one, two, a few it looks like. Where you-all been the last 50 years.
The Knight of Malta-led Roman Catholic CIA (whose "Old Hands" of CapCities' board took over ABC with Warren Buffett's complicity), convicted of President Kennedy's assassination in 'Hunt v. Marchetti' yet unpunished, also played a significant role in Bush's and Cheney's 9/11 treason - PNAC's Mossad 9/11 false-flag event, to shield Rome's FedScam now bankrupting America, from gold-backed currencies and Saddam's switch to the Euro for oil payments; to restart the heroin trade the Taliban had ended in Afghanistan; to dupe our troops into becoming "golem" for False Zion's false-Jew Talmud Khazar Christ-killers; and, to protect the Saudi "royals" from the progressive secular Islam of Libya, Iraq, and Syria.
Their treasonous Fifth Column role in global drug trafficking has been the subject of incontrovertible scholarship since Vietnam, also unpunished.
"The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade," Paperback – May 1, 2003 by Alfred W. McCoy
"The Knight of Malta-led Roman Catholic CIA"
I actually laughed out loud - what makes you think *that*?
The CIA is like a Greenwich, CT area golf club - WASPS and Jews. And for the record, there are more Catholics than wasps and jews combined in the US - that there are going to be some in CIA, DIA, etc. should be unsurprising.
By the way - how many accounts do you have here, Frodo?
apart from the "christ killer" nonsense, I'm largely with you on 9/11 and cheney/pnac {Shrub is a fucking idiot and was mostly a puppet} et al.
Israel was involved, but the involvement of the Pentagon and a couple other fed agencies is obvious. Of course, people spend all their time arguing about 'how' the buildings came down, which is a GREAT way to get people to not follow the money, or destruction of records/investigations, or ask who benefits, etc.
As for Iraq - yeah, the petrodollar thing has convinced a lot of people, but really - spend 3 trillion to overthrow a guy you could have simply bought off, or assasinated?
No - I think the primary reason we stopped any real effort in Afghanistan, another lie of course, was because of the Jewish neocons all over the administration who wanted Iraq destroyed.
Like the "Qatari oil pipeline" the petrodollar, which does have some legitimacy maybe {certainly controlling oil and trade chokepoints and boxing in Russia does - wars never have one cause} is a nice diversion for the conspiracy minded.
But Babylon is a magickian - and in the other hand is always Israel and the perceived interests of those who control Israel...who do want Israel to expand and be a superpower.
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islam...
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http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/iraqwar.shtml
Touched a nerve, eh, papist? Or are you one of their Zionist shills? My knowledge of the CIA is from an "Old Hand's" "SecondGen" within your satanic treasonous, "Ratlines-running," JFK-assassinating, 9/11-committing, Knight of Malta-led Roman Catholic organization. But "nice try."
N.B. For interested patriots and passersby: Rome took us over with the "Civil War" (Fasces nailed to the front wall of the U.S. House to confirm - the symbol of the power and authority of the Roman state, and nothing else). Through Rome's papist political power the assets were put in place to "approve" Rome's bankers' FedScam/WWI. Hitler was their sacrificial pawn to draw in true Israel, America, for the take down via the Holohoax coverup of their Holodomor. Post-WWII a loyalty oath was implemented for government employ requiring the swearing of belief in God, which civil libertarians and patriot Protestants found objectionable, given the horrors of the war Rome and the Talmuds had just created. Papal knight Donovan did his recruiting for the unconstitutional CIA exclusively at papist schools, to hire the satanically abused and conformed. The rest is history...of the Beast's usurpation of God's "Promised Land" by "the real Anti-Christ" Talmud/papist "engine for enslaving mankind" we Black and White "whigs" escaped in express covenant with God, our named Sovereign, free of king and pope, in possession of the divine right of Individual Sovereignty the Spawn of Satan seeks to annul.
Careful.
I might get to thinking you're trying to hurt my feelings.
AS for "touching a nerve" - not at all.
I think you may actually be a crazy person.
Know you are no American. Try gaslighting some other goy, Satan.
...and try debunking this while you're at it, concerning your Knight of Malta-led Roman Catholic CIA's actual boss:
The head of Satan's homosexual pedophile priesthood of Babylon at Vatican Hill proves his perfect failure to share the Spirit of God brought to Earth in the ministry of Christ Immanuel, God Incarnate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2&v=aB8nr6TDFBM
Isn't that why Pat Tillman was silenced?
Why are people trashing the weekend crew @ ZH for publishing common knowledge?
The byline clearly identifies the source as Submitted by Kit O'Connell via TheAntiMedia.org
Its a USA win-win. Supports the local economy and a lot of that shit goes to Iran and Russia.
The Cocaine Importing Agency realize people want their up and downs, they need to be diverse.
They've been doing this since the 1600 hundreds. Kerrry-Forbes families. What are you stupid?
I wonder who's bringing in the jelly donuts?
Who's bringing in the Gelfite fish and matzo balls?!?
Rumors?
Air America is not new. And most people know the various services provided via Air America. This is not news.
Need moar chart porn
old news. The Muslims cleaned up the poppy fields and when the US came in, replanted them
At an appropriate moment of their own choosing Iran and Russia will crush the Afghan poppy fields once and for all. Thermobaric and trinitite scorched earth will stay that way.
Ramstein and Incirlik Air bases being main entrance point.
Just like DaNang AB was during Vietnam
Air America
I've been under the impression from day #one that the real reason the US invaded Afghanistan is because the Taliban were successfully eradicating poppy fields which was cutting into the profits of big-time distributors and money-launderers (re: the banksters we all know and hate ;-).
2015 – Afghanistan (CIA) is Housing 400,000 Football Fields Worth of Opium http://freebeacon.com/national-security/afghanistan-housing-400000-football-fields-worth-of-opium/
2014 – Afghan Opium Poppies Thrive Despite $7 Billion From U.S. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2014-10-21/afghan-opium-poppies-thrive-despite-7-billion-from-u-s-.html
2014 – Afghanistan Mission Accomplished – World’s Heroin Dealers Agree http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-27/americas-job-done-afghanistan
2014 – The Worst Narco-State in History? After 13-Year War, Afghanistan’s Opium Trade Floods the Globe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk5hCLgnY7Y
2014 – The Afghan War is Not Over: U.S. Ends 13-Year Combat Mission, But 10,000+ Troops Continue the Fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfLUDQ6iPDc
2013 – Afghanistan opium harvest at record high – UNODC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24919056
2011 – Afghanistan opium production set to rise 61%: UN http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/afghanistan-opium-production-set-to-rise-61-un
2008 – Opium fields spread across Iraq as farmers try to make ends meet http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/article3345715.ece
2007 – U.N. urges NATO to stop Afghan opium trade http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/11/17/afghan.opium/
2007 – Opium windfall fuels Afghan insurgents: U.N. http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL1631972220071116
Ask the french legionairres what their job in Afghanistan really is...lol...news? For dumbfucks it may be news! There is a reason why Afghanistans opium got back to it's production peak after the West "saved" Afghanistan from the Taliban.
The CIA has long been an arm of the international jewish bankers who control the world's drug traffic.
Not to mention that Kiev and Tel Aviv are World HQ for the illegal harvesting and sale of human organs. Coincidentally, Pornoshenko owns a chain of funeral parlours in Kiev.
Also Tel Aviv and Kiev are HQ for the illegal sex workers trade.
Theb Jewish mafia has also been far stronger in the USA than the Italians. but of course that is never reported.
When I was in Vietnam (71-72) one of the guys in supply told me he was sending 95 percent pure heroin to his girlfriend in NYC. He put it in envelope and pressed it down hard and wrote on envelope ''do not bend, photos inside''. and of course our postage was FREE.
He later told me his girlfriend has just bought a Datsun 240Z CASH with some of the profits.
alfred, 1971 flew back with a grunt who had 1lb of heroin in his carry on..never saw him in ft lewis after the flight, always wondered if he made it back to NJ..I was an MP and he knew it and still showed me it, I just laughed at his balls and somewhat nieve trust but then we had just smoked pot together.
No different in Canada. In the same time frame, I went to school with a NATO brat who could fly military transport into Amsterdam for free. No customs on return.
The Iran-contra cocaine all over again.
Where is the Kerry committee this time?