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Wrong coast nit wit
We don't care in the Northeast US all our pollution goes to Euroland anyway
I'm talking about the Yankee culture...nitwit.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2013/11/08/which-of-the-1...
The "left coast" was founded by Yankees. Same fucked up mentality.
Some lefty Writer makes something up that makes sweeping generalizations and it becomes "fact" worthy of an appeal to authority logical fallacy.
Ok.
Nice try.
I see you read the post. Nit Wit was to kind fuck face
True dat, try putting a note like that on a car in Boston... you'll get yer legs broken, but only because you were wearing a Yankees hat.
This is why the Stars and Bars was originally created. Where the Gadsden flag originated.
People from thousands of miles away who want to tell you how to live.
Not just no, but hell no.
I'll see you guys at the muster.
No, they are not better than GM. VW has a horrendous reputation when it comes to quality. You buy a VW or Audi if you want endless problems that are impossible to fix.
Ive got a 1993 Audi 100 CS with 237,000 miles on it that starts right up and runs like a charm. Did I mention it gets about 38 MPG? Range is about 550 miles as it has a big tank. I keep it because I want to teach the kids to drive a stick shift, almost impossible to get a fun car in 'Murrika today
I would never buy a car from the Government Motors assassins
My old boss had a VW, can't remember the model, his ignition key switch got to where is would sometimes not work. The dealership said they would have to replace the hole dash assembly. Was going to cost about half of what the car was worth to fix. I suggested he do what Seinfeld did with his stinky BMW.
I do about 30,000 miles a year here in Blighty, and the car I see broken down most often is BMW, then VW. Could just be because there are so many, though.
My 2005 Jetta TDI 5 MT has 205k on the clock. It's had two minor unplanned maintenance events (breakdowns) in 10 years.
The original clutch finally started slipping at 204k. It's averaged 43MPG over it's entire life, including towing a popup camper.
I also owned until about 2 weeks ago (PTL) a 2006 Beetle TDI DSG. Total POS.
The difference: the wagon was made in Germany, the Beetle in Mexico.
Even though the engines are identical, everything else is different. The suspension was made in MX as well.
The interior on this <100k mile car is falling apart. The suspension is garbage. The transmission is a timebomb waiting to detonate and when it does the car will be scrap metal (minus the engine), because that incredibly sophisticated DSG trans costs more to fix than the car is worth, north of $5k.
So if you're considering buying a VW, make goddamn sure it's got 3 pedals, and make sure it's built in Germany, not Mexico. Also avoid the gasoline powered models.
The quality difference between the mexican and German VWs is so stark as to be almost unbelievable.
I 've been working on, restoring, and racing cars since I was knee high to grasshopper.
These are my observations about the quality and reliability of VWs. They are not all created equally.
I'm amazed anyone in Portland knows how to spell. But, wouldn't this person rightly be a "resident" of Portland and a "citizen" of whatever country he/she or it (if a Caitlyn type) claims/is forced allegiance to?
should've ran over the smug lib.
There's the American spirit!
Except they both think they're libtards.
Oh sure go ahead add a felony to your silly transportation woes! That's just brilliant.
Beats the hell out of a bannana in the tail pipe but fuck the dumb ass that posted the note , they should have stuck it on Airforce 1 .
Did the composer of that note found on the VW forgot the "/s" tag?
Um ... no?
Asking in jest, but still disturbed by the lack of it
And how long have you suffered this aversion to the truth?
Good god man, the irony is smacking you in the face and you don't even know it
Your irony game weak.
"While cute your bank is outfitted with cheating devices designed to ellude and break every regulation standard,
Your Bank is currently committing fraud at rates higher than at any time in history.
Not to mention your bank lied to you and the public and was founded by nazis.
Perhaps its time to consider a different alternative like Bitcoin"
A sympathetic and concerned Bitcoiner
why rub salt in the wound of the driver/owner? they are doubtless aware that they were duped, and quite unhappy about it, no need to punish them more. VW almost certainly alienated the specific demographic that they were most wholeheartedly trying to embrace -- the clean-diesel greenies.
what is it that the marketing folks used to say? something about 10x time harder & more expensive to win back an alienated customer than to fetch a new one....?
(disclosure -- bought my wife a cute little jetta tdi diesel 2 years ago...great car, peppy (manual trans version), great mileage, fun to drive. appealed to her greenie instincts. now she hates it and is ashamed to drive it to work, but the only alternative is my huge gas-hog off-road 4WD that i use for hiking access.... we're right in there with the other gullible muppets on this one.)
No one does snotty nosed, uppity, opinionated outrage like an enviromentalist with too much time on their hands. I would have followed them home to see what I could write on a note about them and threw it through their front window attached to a brick.
I eagerly await the recall notice for mine, which will subsequently be followed by an invitation to join the class action suit once we VW owners find out just how much the car is going to suck once they tighten things up a bit. I'm not greedy, but I'm curious how they're going to get out of this one gracefully.
One Day,
They won't get out of it gracefully.
Have you ever had to fight the cocksuckers called "The U.S. Government"?
I was thinking of buying a BMW, Audi, or VW car at a reduced price also. Really the pollutants this car is putting out is far far less than those of the 70's. See Eric Peters article on unobtainable and ever higher pollution limits as justification for continued EPA Existance.
Have you read about the new ozone limits that the EPA wants to implement? Some counties of Nevada will never be able to comply because chemicals emitted by sage brush combine with NOX(from out of the county) to form the ozone. Crazy out of control shit.
Years ago a friend was charged by the EPA for "polluting" a river becasue the groundwater he was dumping into the river exceeded EPA standards for copper. However it was the naturally occuring water which contained too much copper, which also meant the EPA should be charging everyone who flushes a toilet, becasue that water also contrains too much copper....
right...funny stuff. we (nevada) have radium in our water as well, since we dip out of the colorado river (which includes drainage from the deposits in south-central utah). epa would love to make it illegal, but it is natural.
Seriously doubt if there is particulate RADIUM in your water - probably it's
RADON (Rn) - a colorless, odorless gas produced by decay of naturally-occuring radioactive mineral radium in granite.
Both drastically increase lung cancer chances.
Oh, wait - isn't a little radiation good for one ??? Certain that I read this somewhere - article on Fukushima perhaps.
Try again asshat.
http://water.usgs.gov/nawqa/trace/radium/maps/fig1.html
Lots of areas in the country have naturally occurring radium in their groundwater.
I guess that Leaf prevents you from doing a Google search before you spout bullshit.
Actually, Ferdinand Porsche was building cars long before the Nazis rose to power. He didn't become a Nazi until it became fashionable.
A Suburu owner probably left it.
The irony will be extreme when that WWII company is also caught for cheating on emissions.
I am not sure about that. Subaru owners have been begging for years for a diesel subaru in america. It never happened of that stupid EPA regulation.
Breath deep Portlandite. That VW is the least of your problems. Sounds like this person needs to run for a dictator of some degree (Knows nothing about everything).
Oh yeah that really hurt. And here I thought ZHers were all about truthyness. Wow I guess not! Whodathunkit.
He will meet his destiny in Portalnd, at the hands of some black mob violence.
The blacks don't care if you like them. If you're not racist.
They only see white. A liberal white is just as hated as a KKK loving redneck. In fact more so because the blacks despise weakness more than anything, and if there's a poster boy for weakness, it's the liberal neckbeareded fedora wearing mangina of the type that left this note.
One day he's going to wish he didn't shit on his redneck cousins. I won't piss on him if he's on fire.
VW cheated, but I think this is an industry sponsored counter protest. And what's wrong with nazis?
"Illinois Nazis", perhaps
like from the Blues Brothers?
The only kind
i hate illinois nazis
Hillary cheats? No problem.
Obama lies and murders? No problem.
Boehner sucks dem cock? No problem.
Banks lie, steal and cheat? No problem.
Congress exists to collect bribes? No problem.
Medical monopolies fleecing Americans? No problem.
GMOs ruled as safe? No problem.
Geoengineering? No problem.
Fraccing? No problem.
But God forbid one of the most efficient and least polluting cars ever made put out an infinitesimally higher amount of NoX than the EPA says is ok,. Let the pogrom begin!
KILL THE HERETICS WHO DARE DRIVE THESE NAZI DEATHCARS!
Don't VW's run on Jewish ashes or something? Depolymerized holycost victims or something?
I thought so.
I have a TDP apparatus in my yard to fuel my TDI. I just shove some bergsteinmans in there, and voila, away I go, spewing the combusted jewoil.
Holocausting nazimobiles. The liberal braintrust has even decoded VWs evil symbol 0-- it's actually a counter-clockwise swastika that only VW owners cannot see.
How quaint!
emissions standards are usually a detriment to engine performance (not efficiency).
Run test pipes and no resonator. Sell the cat for scrap, ricer.
Oh, and to the concerned citizen of Portland. Why not spend your effort fighting big ag. Methane be like - F U ozone.
Why does it have to be either/or?
Scratch a progressive
reveal a totalitarian
Oh wow that's interesting. Doesn't change that fact that VW lied, is fucked sideways, and the entire auto industry probably did the same thing and are just as fucked.
zzzzzzzzzzz
I am so loving this. Haven't had this much fun since I fed Jon Corzine to a tiger.
Whooohh Whoooohhh!! It's the PC Police Bro! We don't tolerate those who aren't ecologically sensetive dammit! You bought a Nazi car!
Heaven forbid your VW has a baby on board sign visible.
The Portland Stasi will make sure you are held to account for such an outrageous action against the collective.
And yet it's all truthyness! You know, reality deprivation syndrome though debilitating and embarrassing can be cured.
fuckin social justice warriors
Before this is all over they're "all" going to be found to be cheating. They'll show in their defense that the Suburban was cheating too.
The government is so big it can no longer be financed by taxes and inflation. It's now going for ridiculously high fines for failing to meet riduculous standards that produce results more costly than the problem they're trying to prevent.
Global warming anyone?
Why did WTC7 fall down?
wtc7
to cover up arthur anderson/enron/eventually lehman/indian outsourcing and how it all got paid for;-)
r
https://enronnext101.wordpress.com/
It's going to be watch all the Green Tard heads exploding when things start to turn sour and everything they care about is revealed for the scam it is. What a stupid, shallow religion they follow.
Good old Portland, send the our new compulsory immigration there so that we can "keep Portland weird". That place reeks of Patchuli and high taxes. Guys in Seattle like it because there is 1 strip club per 9,000 residents, apparently they have a vegan strip club and one where the girls don't shave.
So if your into insane neo-liberalism, having a mexicans fill your tank with gas because it is job creation, strippers with huge guage earings and tattoos, socialism and high taxes then Portland is one hell of a place.
Truth hurts!
3 weeks ago the vw pussy golfer was a cool kid too.....aah :(
Cheap vw's now at your local blue town.
Holy Fucking Shit... Portland??? Who ever the pot smoking earth hugging fuck that left that note should remember that a huge portion of the state of Oregon was on fire this summer. ON FUCKING FIRE! I can guaranty you that one 4000 acre forest fire produces more emisions than the ENTIRE VW fleet ever did EVER!
And VW sold 11 million cars (that we know of) that did not perform as advertised on the sticker! People probably paid extra for the promised performance and didn't get it what they paid for!
Why is it nobody wants to understand that? It was a classic bait-and-switch rip off.
No, you are wrong.A VW owner got just what was promised on the sticker; it was the EPA who got ripped off, and they're pissed. I really don't give even one shit that my TDI spews 40x more NOx than the .7% of emissions it is currently. Do you realize that's still a lot less than any other pollutant in the exhaust stream ?
This rebuts the con that is the EPA's outrage: http://ericpetersautos.com/2015/09/23/crucified-by-uncle/
No I'm pretty sure the sticker said you emit a legal amount of NOx and still get a lot of MPG and with H horsepower delivered at the curb.
Well guess what sparky! It was a lie! It ain't gonna happen, and not ever either! I bet it cannot even be done if the Germans -- grand masters of diesel engines -- couldn't figure it out.
Oh this is wonderful. This is fabulous. I am so happy. This is the best thing to happen ever!
Because now we have proof that it cannot be done!
What sort of a giant faggot would have the time and inclination to make such a thing then go around looking for that model of car? Probably some pot smoking Commie piece of trash who voted for Obongo, twice.
Yes, it's amazing the ER Doc could take time off from saving children's lives to do this!
What a saint!
Actually I think it was a good Samaritan trying to help a confused VW owner to understand how totally fucked up the ass they now are.
not that thats a bad thing (in portland)
what kind of faggot maligns good, decent pot smokers everywhere?
Weed isn't strong enough to create that kind of delusion.
That kind of fucked up thinking comes from a bottle of whiskey, a line of coke, or a shot of meth. Or maybe a handful of Oxycontin.
People like to say "what's he smoking" when somebody says or does something stupid. But the ironic thing is that cannabis just isn't that strong.
Our perfectly safe and legal alternatives, like booze and pills, are, and create and support they type of delusional mindsets seen on both coasts. I guess benzos and SSRIs also contribute.
Weed will do just enough to make you say 'fuck it'. But it won't cause delusions like those other drugs.
That's why it's illegal. It doesn't work well enough to make you swallow propaganda. In fact it makes you question things, rather than blindly accept.
Maybe I need more flouride, estrogen, GMOs, soy, and anti depressants so these liberal arguments will start to make sense.
Because no matter how much weed I smoke, I just can't get there from here.
I've been around vw diesels and they sure smell and look clean running. No smoke, no odors. Can't say the same for some of the diesel pickups running about. Is this another mountain from a molehill kind of thing?
Something odd has been going on here for years now. Back in the early eighties most small car and truck manufacturers (including VW) were selling diesels here. Seemingly overnight they all went away. Then about ten years ago we started seeing small diesels again. VW had a awesome v-10 diesel that was a beast. Suddenly dealers were calling their customers and trying to buy them all back. Now they are non-existent. Meanwhile Europe and the rest of the world have been up to their eyeballs in diesels. I have asked dealers about diesels in jeeps as it would seem the ideal engine for a wrangler, and they have told me that they are available in Europe, just not here. SO what is the deal? Why is it that our progressive savants have been dragging us by our hair to match Europe in virtually every way...except diesels.....they just ain't clean enough for us. Given the still relatively few diesel passenger cars on the road here, it is hard to imagine they constitute much of a "threat".
What happened? The standards for diesel fuel in the rest of the world increased to be much cleaner. The US didn't change. So the high performance diesels they were selling in Europe really wouldn't run here on our crappy fuel.
There was also the GM fiasco in the 80's with their converted car engines that self destructed after a year. That put people off diesels.
Now, the US has increased the quality of diesel fuel to match Euro and international standards, but at the same time, they increased pollution controls on diesels FAR above anywhere else in the world. So the same problem exists, that Euro diesels can't easily be sold in the US .
But why? There is always a reason. This is too stupid to be stupidity. After years of running high sulfur diesel, they changed the standards (as I understood it) to make euro diesels viable here. As soon as they did that, they raised the standards so we still can't buy them? I can't believe it is just US manufactures trying to block them given there are no true AMERICAN manufacturers left. Or is it just simple progressive hating on oil, coal, nukes and anything else that might provide cheap and abundant energy? The electric light bulb changed the world as we could suddenly work all day AND all night which changed our productive output hugely. Now that they want to reverse all of that, maybe simply putting us back into darkness is their ultimate solution.
It's the Nitrous Oxide, not the particulates--odorless, colorless and a strong greenhouse gas. Not as bad as cowfarts though. Will they start sticking little flags with this kind of message in your burgers too?
You're thinking of N20, NOx has a half life of a couple of days in the atmosphere and tends to cool the atmosphere.
The problem with NOx is on contact with water it turns into nitrous and then nitric acid. Not only does nitric acid eat metal, it also eats things like lungs, which have a moist mucous layer.
It's difficult to process in a car because it's already oxidised, you have to un-oxidise it (react it with something) to make it harmless. The only things you've got coming down the exhaust pipe are already oxidised, or unburned fuel. So the normal way to deal with NOx is either to pump more fuel through, thereby reducing the economy, or on bigger diesels to spray urea into the exhaust, meaning you've got another consumable to deal with.
This reminds me of an experience I had in San Francisco years ago. My buddy was commissioned to paint a mural on the side of a building for a Harry Potter style children's book that was set to be released. He asked me if I wanted to help him paint, so we drove up there and got to work on the project. He uses spray paint as a medium for most of his stuff, and while I was helping him fill a few spots in, this baby boomer aged liberal walked up and started berating us for destroying the environment with toxic chemicals and he was going to call the cops to have us arrested for spray painting the side of a building. Ten minutes later, the cops roll up on bikes and say "hey guys, we got a call about some kids vandalising the side of a building. Nevermind it, carry on with your painting, it's looking pretty cool." The frustrated little cunt comes walking back over after the cops leave and starts shouting various profanities at us while shaking his fist. I told him to have a nice day. He scurried over to his BMW M3, got in it and sped away.
There will be no shortage of willing candidates for the brown shirt squad. They are just waiting to be asked. Begging to be asked. Everything for a bit of power over others. Ah the burden of enlightenment and things they MUST do for our own good!
While I must sadly agree, I will also assert that we, the non-brown shirts, will have plenty of what is required to resist their tyranny.
It starts with testosterone and goes from there.
if you have low T, start googling.
No need for roids or pills. Just a change in diet and lifestyle.
Chicks dig testosterone, that's why fags and lesbians hate manly men and make it damn near impossible for a man to get testosterone. But if a man wants to cut off his dick and take some estrogen, why the med industry will be right there helping every step of the way.
Why do they hate us?
Because they are incapable of action and fear those who are.
Men will be needed to restore order once the feminists/gays/libs lose their grip on power. The only thing propping up these milquetoasts is their government. It steps aside, and order gets restored.
Bank on it.
Everybody lies, those that don't get caught look good and honest.
Hilarious.
Because a Chevy Suburban is so efficient....
Does the troll also carry a note for USDM Diesel owners?
THEY'RE ALL CHEATING!
My next car will be a Volkswagen with a license plate frame that says "My other car is also a Volkswagen".
SmugAlert!
http://assn.la/Reg/?r=2:136176
I wonder if that Portland Hippie knows how much he pollutes by breathing and eating everyday..and his pot smoking pollute more than that Desiel...I bet he has 3 dogs too that all pollute too...funny how that lifestyle is COOL...but not anyone elses....
Whoever wrote this note is clearly a useless idiot. If they were really worried about pollution and their fellow man, they'd be plastering anti-regime notes all over the city. How many human beings and children have the VWs killed again? How many has Monsatan? How many little kids has Obama killed in drone strikes (hundreds)? How many innocent American kids have had their lives destroyed by war started by the MIC?
But, they're worried about pollution from a dinky little insignificant, diesel car.
BINGO!
What percentage of the American vehicle fleet is TDIs affected by this cheat?
What percentage is gasoline powered light trucks that get 12 mpg?
I'd say the latter is much larger than the former.
<--proud TDI owner.
I went to Portand once. I got so sick of the smelly panhandlers aggressively coming after me for money that I actually pissed on one of them. I should have stayed and pissed on all of them.
Except a VW burns less fuel per mile. So who cares if the particulate % is higher? Oh that's right. The particulate jihadists in the EPA.
It's not the particulates, it's the NO, isn't it?
The emos (those who do not think but use emotions and feelings to guide their actions) aren't educated in sciency stuff. It's boring. It's hard, and they don't need it for their job in CPS, the Gender studies department, the nonprofit NGO, or whatever.
So they can be easily duped into supporting whatever the Bernasian masters can dream up, as long as it 'feels good'.
Fuck logic. Fuck facts. Fuck math. FUck science. That stuff is hard.
Social Justice has no room for facts and shit!
geesh they didn't have to add the nazi part...
25%-30% less CO2 emissions than gasoline cars. Is global warming dead suddenly? Is the poster not up to date that carbon is the game and not NOx?
They're idiots. But don't tell them that several chinese people die for each full electric car that rolls off the line since the battery manufacturing is so toxic.
Dear Colonel Chicken. Yes, we have a Leaf. And a 9kw Solar Generator on the roof. Totally guilt-free cheap transportation.
Sincerely, Fuck You.
Were any components of the Leaf and Solar Generators products made in a factory using [GASP!], child labor?!
Were any materials mined in an Emerging Nation without [GASP!], environmental safeguards?!
Were the materials/components/products shipped on [GASP!] polluting shipping vessels bringing in invasive species in their ballast tanks?!
YOU, SIR, ARE AN ENEMY OF THE ENRIVONMENT!
yeah, one of those reds is mine.
What I read in your comment: Me first, fuck you.
Because that sciency stuff again, like EROEI on solar panels and Nissan Leafs.
Facts don't matter because 0 emssions feels so good.
I only took the time to do this because I don't anonymously downvote.
"Founded by Nazis". Uh, yeah, o.k.
But while you are at it, do some checking on Henry Ford and the Nazzzies.
. . . or T.J. Watson.
...
vat is dis?! you do not like das people's car!?
i smell agent provocateur.
race wars, class wars, anything to continue to divide the people. this with the bonus shit dollop of economic warfare on western europe.
seems they have the people figured out - look at all of the bickering a simple note has elicited.
Someone is due a cunt punt!
Is that similar to a tongue-punch in the ol fart box ???
You do have a way with words ...
Rule of thumb...
When strangers (or liberals, take your pick) are so obsessed to get into your business and your life, it almost always means they hate themselves and have a Freudian sized insecurity problem.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain (It's time to toss the dice)
The Daily Economist
I wonder how much gas that idiot liberal wasted driving to and from putting those things on cars?!? What a dumbfuck!
This is clearly intention of US to get buyers to buy their Ford instead of German cars. As if US manufacturers never misstepped, like with Tesla for example. Last time US product and whole economy were take over by German caused WW2. So VW fucked up so what, I am sure their next line will beat any competition by long shot. German products are still better choice most of the time.
Chevy, not Ford. Chevy Cruze Diesel to be exact; Uncle Sugar wants to move them BAD but no one was buying them before. And don't worry about the EPA, bitchez, your new Chevy Cruze Diesel is guaranteed to pass emissions...wink wink, nudge nudge.
Auto wars...like it matters. There is no American auto manufacturers as they are all multinational and there is no car that I know of 100% built in America. This is no different than the government looking the other way for years while mortgage companies were loaning on fictional values, and then suddenly the light comes on that this is all wrong, and then just as suddenly they discover that this sudden bout of truthiness is killing the housing industry, they revert back to the mean. Meanwhile lots of banks are shut and sucked up by "more friendly" banks at discount prices and guaranteed base valuations...all becoming too big to fail. Watch as VW is beat soundly about the ears and then when it is discovered that it is killing Germany's economy, they will come back with some new bailout that suddenly enriches the same old donors again. Meanwhile VW become another step closer to be a nationalized company...for the good of the people of course. Corporations can't be trusted like "elected officials" and those sacrificing their lives to public service in government.
liberal braintrusts are the ones who vandalize cars, when do you think that will start?
If there's ever been a point in time where hippies suck more than they do today, I've never heard about it.
I used to be a hippie. I didn't know I sucked until recently.
I wonder if anyone realizes that someone spending 1/2 an hour behind the good old american lawn mower spews out more polutants than an average sub-compact car driving 100 miles? And with millions of those two stroke whipper snappers puking out pollutants, l who really gives a shit about the emissions from a VW - all the time it's getting 60 MPG not me
got data on that? not that I don't believe you.
Lawnmowers have only evaporative controls on them at this point, and a bit better combustion engineering than 30 or so years back (though the vast majority are 4 stroke).
New gasoline cars are so clean now that it's pretty much impossible to commit suicide by piping the exhaust into the cab, unless you do it right at startup and it doesn't have a cat preheater.
Good post. But liberals/statist can never let facts get in the way of a good 2 minutes hate.
You weren't supposed to notice that.
At some point, you just have to say fuck it.
Bust out the old 2 stroke RM250, mix up some Bel Ray at 50:1, and tear some shit up.
4 strokes are fun, but 2 strokes make more power and put out lots more wonderful smelling (love that BelRay) smoke.
#Enjoythedecline
Braaap!
FWIW: I mix 32:1 in all my smokers.
Fuck you concerned citizen of Portland.
USA wants Germany on its knees since Germany started cozying up to Russia and bashing Kiev.
I have owned a TDI here in Europe. Audi. 45 mpg cruising at 100 mph in 6th gear. Amazing car.
TDI's have been popular here for years and we have LESS pollution than the USA.
Exactly. Its complete bullshit.
I agree, this is an attack on Germany... the company was specifically targeted, imo, and this is no 'ordinary Portland citizen' note.
http://www.euronews.com/2015/06/04/volkswagen-s-electric-plans-in-china/
Punishment for going after U.S. interests.
Tesla
Better check the pH on your rainfall before you count your less pollution chickens.
His VW-brand Super Deluxe Enviro-Chek Rain Gauge tells him everything is just peachy.
I just read that the rain gauge has a defeat device that indicates in never rains even when it does!
nothing is sacred.
Also, should test for Al in rainwater and soil. Then compare current results to historical values.
Then tell me what the fuck are they spraying?
VW building another new manufacture plant in Russia
also something to do with it
same old..let no one rise.....ask Germany (twice)
Germany and Russia together is what they fear
It didn't work so good the last time they tried it.
And why does Russia need all these foreign partners, anyhow? China? Germany? Various puppet regimes on the border?
Thanks to the evil jewish-bolsheviks who industrialized and educated Russia, who built an army strong enough to stand off the Wehrmacht (with a little help from its friends), and gave it a primo space program and serious nuclear capability, one has to wonder what has changed since they've been kicked into the ash heap of history.
Why does Russia need external expertise now, when it used to be able to stand on its own?
wouwouwouwou
"Thanks to the evil jewish-bolsheviks who industrialized and educated Russia"
they did not industralize russia!
in fact they killed 20-30 million of the population before stalins death +they killed 7-9million ukrainians + 4million muslims
the idea of communism was to create slavery and force people to work for FREE and let them work MORE
you talk about education, but education in russia (except of physics and math) was "censored"
people had to marry and work for 20 years to receive a car - in comparison to the west, there was no industrialization
alcohol was used as a drug for masses, whole population was put on alcohol
in soviet union people became retard, because stupid, unsuccessful man married stupid, unsuccessful woman and had up to 6 stupid children on average
there was a deficit on everything - bribes and corruption bacame a tradition
so why are you lying tarabel? why do you want to present murderes as heros? are you a pro-massmurder and pro-criminal yourself?
Calm yourself, Senor NNNNNNNN.
First off, yes they did industrialize Russia. Sorry but those are the facts. Those Germans who campaigned in Russia both in 1917 and 1941 were utterly amazed at the transformation. So far as military production went, the USSR produced more than Nazi Germany, often by a large margin. Post-USSR, the country has largely rust-belted itself into manufacturing oblivion except for a small segment of State-sponsored military enterprises.
Second, yes, they murdered a lot of their own people in the process of industrialization and collectivization and general opposition-crushing, and kept on going.
Third, yes, they taught everyone to read and write-- the better to swallow their propaganda -- but it is nevertheless the truth. Lots of polytechnic graduates who were taught to be educated scientific and industrial functionaries. When I was young, I was told that this was a drawback to their educational system since it didn't create people who were able to independently reason. Now that I've seen the same system working on US college students, I see that they are also not taught to independently reason-- with the additional drawback that they have no useful skills to contribute either. Even worse than the Bolsheviks and brought to us by the same ideological soulmates.
The soul-crushing aspects of the system are well understood by myself as well as you, but you have to understand that I am speaking with a Russian who blames the Jewish-Bolshevik Communists for being a plague on the country (which they were) but would like to take credit for the legacy items bequeathed to Russia afterwards, such as its nuclear might and space program, as if the Bolshies had nothing to do with these things.
You cannot separate the good from the bad. Life under the Czars was no bowl of cherries either. The Bolsheviks changed things and could have been of great benefit to the country if they evolved into a softer Swedish-style tyranny and not maintained the pointless state of siege and bankrupted it in an attempt to rival the United States.
For one of the best of all portraits of late-Soviet life, I refer you to P J O' Rourke's hysterical essay "Ship of Fools" about a river cruise up the Volga in company with a bunch of loony leftists sponsored by "The Nation" magazine. I think that is found in "Holidays in Hell" but may have come from "Republican Party Reptile" which features a picture of Eisenhower wearing a Mohawk on the cover. For the end of the communist dream, nothing beats the various "Return of the Death of Communism" series of essays that comprise the first part of "Give War A Chance."
Anyhow, check out PJ, no matter what you think of me. Prepare to laugh yourself to tears.
Thas alotta typin! ....Tony Montana
So the Bolsheviks were Jews, you're saying?
You're an anti-semite!
of course, your Jewish Supremacism sneaks in - but for the Jews, there would be no Russian science or industry, is that right?
You really are a despicable cunt.
Meanwhile, tell us all about how Isrsel has thrived without massive infusions of distinctly non-Jewish money and technology you ignorant twat.
Glad to see that you got the batteries replaced in your synthetic outrage module. It's working perfectly now.
Am I a Jew? Surprise, no.
Have I lived and worked with Jews at various times in life? Sure.
Here is the bottom line about them all:
They work hard, save their money, and take care of their own-- always.
They do not feel beholden to others and why should they?
You certainly do not feel beholden to them, so what do they owe you in return?
Why should they have to be nice to you when you do not feel obligated to be nice to them?
You go your way and they go theirs. Seems fair to me. Invisible hand. Law of the Jungle. Way of the World. You name it. You just don't like playing on the losing team.
But what burns in your breast the most is the idea that they have tricked you and robbed you in some way and now have brainwashed your fellow whiteys into being guilt-ridden idiots that further the secret Israeli plan to enslave you.
Seems like you should have some small degree of admiration for a group of people so hated and yet so clever as to foist off this great scheme on people who dislike them so much. They sound like smart people bound by centuries of tradition (which they have not abandoned) that has served them well.
Your beef should not be with the Jews but with the white people you champion who have abandoned their own traditions in favor of some chimerical bullshit that has left them as intellectually defenseless targets for techniques of elementary manipulation. But then that is the way of the world, indeed. The smart and the clever take advantage of the stupid. Never gonna change.
Seriously, check out P J O' Rourke. You are smart enough to appreciate his brand of humor if you are willing to give it a shot. Give War A Chance, baby.
One thing I like about you, Dutch...
It's nice to listen to someone who actually thinks that the EU was a marvy idea and fully supports its supra-national crushing of all opposing ideas. Submit to the will of Brussels and live a happy life with better cell phones, nicer TV channels, and peppy diesel cars.
I'm glad you've found your niche in life and I hope you won't begrudge me from opting out of such advanced ways of living.
I hate the EU but love Europe
So you FAILED again, dipshit as usual
Not advanced ways of living. Just 21st century while your craphole country is crumbling becauses you are too cheap to modernize.
FUCK OFF<
And you hate the US too...
But still demand a check from them every month.
So I guess money is more important than principle to some people.
Oh, and we're modernizing at an astonishing rate over here. It's just that our idea of modernization is aimed at living in a post-financial apocalyptic world that requires self-defense and self-sufficiency. TV and cell phones don't have much to do with it.
The huge ZH Nazi contingent is squirming today. Unwelcome in their own smelly clubhouse. How sad.
Oh, they're real clubby over on the other thread. Exchanging phone numbers and friending each other, for sure.
Perhaps you'd be more comfortable on the Chabad website. They have all the racial superiority stuff, historical revisionism, dehumanization of other races, and astounding moral arrogance...
but they're Jews - so there's no pithy term of opprobrium like "Nazi" that just instantly wins every argument.
Cookie?
"polluting 2-4x more than a Chevy Suburban"
That's absolute bullshit and discredits any other point that this 'concerned Portland citizen' might have had...
It's probably spot on for NOx emissions, which is what the stink is all about...
Bull fucking shit by magnitudes.
Volume and mpg matter more than ppm or %.
They CANT easily test for volume.
I agree. But you must remember that he is simply parroting what they said on NPR and printed on Huffpo, and televised on every MSM network.
Bring back the Scarlet Letter!