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You think the fucktard is even concerned about the entire pacific ocean being radio active??
Oil companies cannot make $6,000,000,000 per quater if diesel catches on in the US and people are getting 40+ MPG.
Yes, I agree, but who is going to read a snarky letter left on the Fukushima reactor building?
Dear Concerned Portlander Shill,
Because the Suburbans sell at 40x plus the rates of VW TDI's; we should fine Chevy about $720 billion ($18 x 40) to make it less than even. Also, your state and the two south of you need to pay your share of the large Carbon Footprints being left by your slow burn to the ground caused by the UN and other leeches propagating the Global Warming Fear Mongering. BTW - 200 acres of burning forest equal 100,000,000 TDI's for 5 years.
Sincerely,
An unconcerned Crocodile
Never mind that it produces less carbon dioxide than a Chevy volt. (Counting total emissions including those required to produce and dismantle it). Of course global warming is only a problem when the elite say it is a problem... And things created by Nazis, (like nationalized health care), are only bad when progressives (modern Nazis) say it is. Now go back to being a busy body.
While I'm not defending the company, sounds like it's all part of a(nother) well-oiled attack on Germany, the notes and the company being 'caught' (ratted out?). The note was not done by some typical Portlander, imo.
Who simply loves to hate on Germany?
Did you know that German mfgs DE-TUNE their engines for US market? Also softly sprung for the crappy USA roads.
That was in the mid 80s I don't know about now.
Edit : I had a VW Scirocco when living in the States in 1982. They said the compression ratios on US models were different than German VW's LOWER for the crappy gasoline.
Standard regular gas here in Europe is 95 octane and absolutely strictly controlled.
Germans take their cars seriously. If you ever bought a used car from a German here it comes with FULL documentaion and receipts of anything ever done to their car.
Germans are "only following orders".
As for US gas, my 64 GMC 4x4 runs just fine on what I got to put in it. I run about 30,000 miles a year on it, which means I've racked up a good 500,000 just since I bought it in 95. Hard to say exactly since I could give a shit less about wasting my time tracking every quart of oil and gallon of gas I put in it. I turn the key. It starts. If it doesn't start, I fix it myself.
Dare I say the concerned environmental pushover has not the nads to say something like that in person.
These passive agressive pricks never sweep their own front porch and get belligerent on top of that.
Wonder what he/she'd have to say about all that aluminum, barium, strontium etc. they're breathing.
Crickets.
The EPA regulations were made up extremely stringent, on cars and probably not on trucks and other commercial vehicles, purposly to keep the european diese lcars out of the american market. So to favor that POS of Tesla. Just another free market american initiative.
I see you've never driven a Tesla, probably never even sat in a passenger seat. Envy much?
Not a POS. But we can agree that EPA regs were "made up".
No doubt a coexist loser with nothing better to do.
What is it about Germans and emitting gas?.....
Runs on Zyclon-B!
Check the note paper for Yellow Dot Codes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_steganography
Ahhh, Portlandia - gotta luv it.
"founded by nazis" doesn't make it a bad or a good car, it's completely irrelevant
note probably written by someone driving a Subaru Outback (Japanese company - remember Japan? imperialistic sadists who couldn't find a friend in the world... 'cept for Hitler).
b/c that's one of the most used of the 25 rules of disinfo
Most Americans don't even know that VW group includes Audi, Porsche, Seat, Skoda, Bentley and a few others.
I think they and Toyota are Number one and TWo in the world
And it's important that they know that because...?
He says so.
Maybe a good idea to check American built diesels as well ....
No because that would be communist.
Jesus fucking christ, lets have a little context here bitchez.
The fucking EPA said what? Does this bunch of overpaid wankers with a pension on your fucking coin have something to say about a top class diesel engine that is better than owt you daft cunts in the land of slave can manufacture? Is the EPA part of the shit show government at your end that makes climbing ladders impossible? See that? Give the fuckers ideas??
VW should get a high five off of every fucker on this website, fuck the EPA, fuck Barack the Cunt, fuck the collective wank stains of government around the world, and every child molesting protecting one of the twats who work for it, and raise your glass to the best, unequaled bunch of engineers the world will ever know, my German friends, in fucking Germany.
Fancy the daft cunts you pay millions in wages and benefits were side struck by a German diesel engine??
No wonder we stand and laugh...
:-)
Yer meds are in the cabinet over the sink, don't miss taking them tonight or there's trouble tomorrow, for sure!
You got a fucking cup of tea I can take with them Mr Steve?
I get right fucking irate if you dont give me a cup of fucking tea mate, especially for the tablets. If you dont have a cup of tea, I aint taking the cunts, makes you owt a bit strange, so take the cunts yourself, cant be for me...
And I know cos' me head tells is a dont like strange tablets, so they must be yours son..
;-)
For a laugh of course MrSteve
:-)
If you had not heard, American diesels use a solar preheating system and the turbos are tiny little wind turbines and the DEF injection fluid is actually reclaimed aborted fetus renderings...just for that added progressive punch. Europeans can't out progressive us...no fuckin way!
I wouldnt place a bet on that my friend.
Twenty quid says they try.
:-)
And wor' lot are fucking maniacs, just take my word for that mind.
;-)
VW admitted to it. Their CEO lost his job. Shareholders are piling on the lawsuits. If you own a VW diesel you'll be invited to join one of the hundreds of class-action lawsuits. VW is gonna sink and be bought for spare change by a Chinese manufacturing group.
No EPA required.
They should have hired Hillary as a spokesperson. There would have NEVER been an admission of guilt...NEVER! Maybe in a few years they would have turned over their erased emails, but by then "what does it matter anyway?"
To their credit they did manage to drag it out something like 8 years for finally admitting to anything. The tobacco companies would be so proud.
Please remember the following:
The wicked have drawn the sword And have bent their bow, To cast down the poor and needy, To slay those who are of upright conduct.
Their sword shall enter their own heart, And their bows shall be broken.
A little that a righteous man has Is better than the riches of many wicked.
For the arms of the wicked shall be broken, But the Lord upholds the righteous.
The Lord knows the days of the upright, And their inheritance shall be forever.
They shall not be ashamed in the evil time, And in the days of famine they shall be satisfied.
You appear to be among the wicked; not a good place to end your life. Just saying.
Crocodile.
Fuck off and talk sense son, I could give as many fucks as you can be offended by.
VW is the very best in German engineering, now trust me on that mate.
Calm down dear, its only a commercial.
:-)
Founded by Nazis... come on... going just a bit overboard???
Wait you mean ... it wasn't?!??!
He means it doesn't matter at all (and he is right).
cougar, you strike me as pretty stupid in most of your replies.
What if VW were founded by Marxists? I bet it would matter a fucking lot, then.
Corporations are immortal. And therefore their minds are immortal. As are their dreams, their schemes and their crimes.
Immortal.
VW were founded by Nazis. Forever. You should probably keep an eye on that kind of shit.
Trees were Murrhhh-duuuurrhhed to deliver that smug message. Globawll Waaaaaahhhhrming.
And duh-livered duh troof.
Gee as Germany finally pivots to Russia, what next; will the Ponzi Wall St shaman banksters finally pull the plug on Deutsche Bank and unleash a tsunami of their very own toxic derivative filth? How about some accidental Langleyesque chemical explosions in the heart of German industry a la Tianjin?
Gladio days are here again
Onward to the collap$€
Yep; the Germans will be the scapegoat. I believe you have nailed it; but the feedback loop will be devastating in human terms and financial terms and moral terms.
Certainly a chronic problem - I'd say it's near a mental illness. People so sick in the head, depressed, filled with anxiety... overly and overtly concerned with everything everyone else is doing. Simply put, they can't mind their own fucking business.
i couldnt agree more. its a liberal disease. they just wont leave you alone.
I don't know about that. Have you ever heard of 'dry counties'?
The social conservatives love big gov as much as the emo liberals. They love using the power of government, ie GUNS, to make people do what they think is right, because they know best.
The liberal wants to put you in prison for what's in your kids' lunchbox, and the conservative wants to put you in prison for the type of plant in your garden.
Fuck em both.
Next to break
All Mercedes and BMW top brass are pedofiles.
Actually you have to feel a bit sorry for some of these people. They care about the environment and they thought they were being green. Then they find out that the soccer mom they used to sneer at was actually harming the planet less than they were.
Absolute mind fuck.
Fuck the asshole who left that note.
But -- that would make you gay. Just say'n
Maybe. Maybe not.
Point.
I was working in Luxembourg in late 90's. One of my colleagues bought a new VW Golf 1.6 liter TDI. He was amazed to get over 1000 kms per tank full.
They sell like hot cakes here.
However that also because diesel here is cheaper than Gasoline.
in the USA its vice versa.
That's in large part because the TAX on road diesel fuel in the US is much higher than on gas...hit up the truckers and business who have "deeper pockets".
Obviously the note writer has the ability to see into the future and knew about the emission scandal long before poor car owner purchased the car and later found out about the issue.
Another problem with these sick souls... context is a concept that escapes them.
Perhaps it is time to look at who your countries leaders are and that they will do anything to get ahead, self promote, network with Satan himself, commit Accounting Fraud, Commit Financial Ratings Fraud, Treason, Racketeering, and Support Anti-Trust (Monopolies)... cause you know it is just the right thing to do.
Your Leaders are both Public and Private Executives.
Your Leaders are Bankers, Lawyers, Lobbyist, Political Appointees, Lifer Federal Employees, Lifer Congressmen, and Lifer Supreme Court Judges.
Wow.
And they Never, Ever, Ever Leave even if they destroy part of the US Constitution or add pages of rules to the Federal Register.
Time to get a VW TDI to park next to our F250 Super Duty4X4.
I park my family's TWO Jetta TDIs next to my RAM 3500 diesel dually and my 2500 diesel lol. We're a diesel family, baby. We spew with pride.
VW cheated me they scream !!!!!!!!!!
However not a peep about the lies the USA govt told to get into war and have their kids killled.
VW cheated me !!!!!!!
Well no actually I drive a '68 Dodge 1-ton.
I see that reading comprehension is not your forte. Typical shit for brains trailer park trash Americunt MORON.
Snap. Sorry.
VW cheated me I scream !!!!!!!!!!
Umm... what does one have to do with the other?
No no you don't understand. That is the part where you become distracted, start foaming at the mouth about some random made-up nonsense, and forget the VW lied to their customers about critical aspects of their car purchase and still expect to get paid in full.
It's moden capitalism. Mostly about distractions now.
Dear lord, some people spend a lot of time polishing their "holier-than-thou" buttons. Don't these spineless crusaders have anything better to do........like comment on ZH? =)
I am here to serve.
Great!
I'd like to start with a short stack, maple syrup on the side, then a 3-egg onion, mushroom, and Gouda cheese omelette, with hash browns, and the featured tenderloin special.
Tip depends on the quality of service, capiche?
Just the tip, I promise.
Portland Eco-Fascists know very well about the organizing habits of their German Fascist ancestors.
VW lied about their product and cheated buyers.
Oh I'm sorry what was that you were saying?
Kinda like Ford, General Motors and Chrysler?
Do you ever get the fuel mileage that is stated on the sticker?
Actually when I had my Audi TDI my mileage was BETTER than advertised.
Well, duh.
Aren't you the one who's saying that VW and Audi are the same corporate holding company? You think they ran their EPA mileage tests under the test-only mode or under the max-pollution mode?
I don't doubt that. For NA vehicles subtract 20% from advertised.
You know what, you are correct. Indeed they probably all cheat and it is unfair to target just one of them for punishment.
SO PUT THEM ALL OUT OF BUSINESS MWuahahahahahahahahahah!
I'm waiting on someone (who realizes they can't afford their car payments) to try and get out of their contract by claiming (conveniently) that VW is guilty of fradulent misrepresentation.
Forget the payments, anyone who wants a current model year car from VW should get one -- one-to-one replacement of their choice -- and finish out their payments on schedule. That would be entirely satisfactory and defuse a great deal of hard feelings. Think VW will do it? Nor do I.
Fuck off, dipshit.
Wait so you think they will do it? You have a lot more faith in the global corporatocracy than I do then.
We'll have to see.
our government lies and cheats the public everyday..the real question: Is it time perhaps to consider a new government?
Hmmm now you mention it no I don't think I will be purchasing a Volkswagen product. They cannot be trusted IMO.
You are an idiot.
You can trust them if you want to, but I think people are about to lose a lot of money on this little fiasco. Some of these cars might never smog, and have to be sold for scrap. Ouchie that hurts. Way to run a business, VW. Buyer beware, as they say.
No manufacturer of computerized cars can be trusted, period. No one should buy one...go Cuba, and drive the old classics that can be repaired by a guy with some tools.
They are still out there. Call it a 'restoration project' and call yourself a classic car collector.
'68 Dodge 1-ton! Original 383 smokes a bit, but I only drive it to pick up construction materials. Those guys driving new diesels down at Lowes don't even notice.
Trust a carburetor. Stochiometric ratios, fuel/air ratios, and jet size will never let you down.
Adjust those floats, adjust that accelerator pump, dial in those squirters, check your plugs.
My brain is the engine computer. Timing, A/F ratio, and lots of other fun stuff that can optimize your engine's performance.
And only you are in control. No computer. No government agent.
Holley Carbs forever! (or Edlebrock/Rochester if that's your thing).
Mikunis and Keihins for motorcyles.
The zen of finding the perfect jetting. I love it.
All the aircraft mechanics at Brussels airport drive TDI's.
They have to drain the sumps on the aircraft to check for water and that tank goes behind the hangar to fil their cars LOL
Just add a liter of 10 W oil to every 50 liters of Jet A (kerosene) because its kind of dry.
I know one guy who actually runs his diesel off of French fry oil. He has deal with one of the fast food restaurants to take used oil.
This is not a joke.
Diesels also can run on vegetable oil in a pinch.
Only for the adventerous. And I'm reasonably certain your aircraft mechanic chum is engaging in a felony. Just say'n
Hell we were doing that in 1965 when in the USAF with avgas sump drain fuel.
Its WASTE fuel so how is that a felony?
Go polish your jackboots and iron your brownshirt.
I'm not saying it's a felony, only that it's US government property (in your case) and unapproved transfer of US government property is probably illegal. It might even be grounds for discharge. And over a certain monetary amount it might even be a felony. Oh sorry, I guess you might be a little sensitive on that topic.
WTF are you talking about? I am EX American and that was 50 years ago.
Reading comprehension is not your forte, I see.
Put a nice spit shine on those jack boots, kid
And go see if anyone is using a US govt ball point pen.
Send them to Gitmo
ROFLMAO.
I guess if you weren't selling it off the base it might only petty theft.
He's the jew-iest guy I've ever run across. If he can steal a nickel from somebody, he's on it and that means right now.
This was in Madrid, Spain in 1965.(Torrejon AB) Gas on base was 13 cents a gallon and my pay as an e-3 was 100 dollars a month
So are you saying that you stole it because you were hurting for money or that you stole it because you didn't need the money but just felt like doing it anyhow?
We didn't steal anything. its WASTE fuel . Do you know what an aircraft sump drain is?
And its USAF policy to properly dispose of it in an approved receptacle, right?
Did Spain have gas taxes back then?
Wouildn't running untaxed fuel on their roads constitute a form of stealing?
Gosh I wonder! But you know there is so much corruption in government, everyone does it.
What are you the local US nazi party rep? Fuck off
No I'm not.
No gas taxes in the Euro-heaven?
Sure, have your mom send them over. Can you get her to shave her moustache; jsut once?
Wow, let me write this down...
Can run diesel off of used fryer oil.
Gosh, nobody would have ever thought of that over on this side of the Atlantic. Thanks, man.
I know of a lot of people who jumped at this idea. But five gallons of fry vat oil doesn't stretch very far when you have 10,000 motorists clamoring for it.
Seriously, how much restaurant waste do you think gets produced in a year and then contrast that to the demand for motor fuel per annum.
As for the J-10 trick, every aviation mechanic in the world knows about that. Small scale corruption in action.
Oh but mention that it might be a felony and all those government-teat sucking pensioner crypto criminals get their undies in a bunch. We're all sorry Iraq was so hard on you. But you know what I think they have an app for that now.
Years ago I worked at a low budget FBO. We used to sump our fuel trucks with big glass pickle jars.
But ultimately this argument is moot, pointless, and perpetuates my belief that Einstein was 100% correct about the following:
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
Standard Disclaimer: Enlightenment comes in knowing a single ocean-going large cargo carrier pollutes as much as 50 million vehicles. Or simply goggle "cargo carrier pollution"...
Standard Disclaimer #2: They would never find the body...
This is ironically funny.
Hitlers brainchild, has a problem with toxic gases. Conquers the world, only to crash and burn in the worst possible way. History repeating itself. It's like Hitlers spirit incorporated. LOL.
Whoever has time to write funny notes, print them out, then runs around town to identify owners of that particular engine and harassing them needs to be put in a forced labor camp to plant potatoes for Portlands homeless!
On a side note:
Volkswagen's PHAETON was an absolute TURD, that needs to be flashed down the toilet. I had one. Total waste of money. Spent more time at the VW mechanic shop then in my garage. Mine was not the only one. The mechanic told me that it was a total failure.
That model was never sold here in Europe. Golf and Lupo most popular and the Sharan.
How does the note writer know what the emissions are? Did they test them themselves?
SOMEONE told them...and despite the fact that they did not, and probably could not, verify this, still they believe.
SOMEONE plugged the car's computer into the 'magic box', and read the numbers. How would anyone know whether this is even true or not? With no independent way for the average person to manually verify this independently, you're taking their word for it.
They never stop to consider that if the computer can be tweaked to read the wrong numbers by the manufacturer, it can also be tweaked by someone with an agenda to read a different set of wrong numbers.
How would anyone ever know?
And that 'magic box' goes off everytime a politician needs a headline or a slush fund.
Why didn't the magic box ring out when the EPA flooded the river with toxins?
A fine example of brainwashed sheepleness.
One word...Portland.
Many Americans believe they invented the automobile, the World Wide Web and the jet engine
Wrong on all 3 counts.
Shaddup you Euroweenie!
Time to feed the Muslims - go throw some food over the wire.
/s [required for the slower members of the ZH herd]
Fuck off you goddam Americunt son of a meth head cunt mother.
Screw the folks in Portlandia. Nobody drives a car because it emits less pollution. You choose your car based on style, power, MPG and price. I drive a 2005 TDI and every once in a while when I gas it at a light, the huge diesel exhaust cloud will erupt from the rear of the car. I laugh my ass off looking at in my rearview mirror.
I never had that problem with my Audi TDI of course your diesel fuel in the USA is not exactly up to standards. and the crap ethanol you guys have has destroyed many an engine.
Google: Rolling coal.
And yes, it is perfect justice for the impatient tailgater, or the smug pedestrian/bicyclist.
Diesel power!
They speak English there?
No - Portlandian.
Then why it's written in English?
Must be Hillary trying to revive up her campain!
Every major Bank in America right now has Nazi ties, Ibm has nazi ties, Wall-Street funded the Nazi party, if you get down to it every electrical car on the road burns more coal and pumps out more emissions than any diesel truck, the only difference is where those emissions are being pumped out, instead of coming out of the tail end of the car it comes out of the smoke stack at a coal plant.
If people REALLY didn't use a corporations products or services because of their links to Nazi organizations and emissions, most of the banks that are destroying the world right now wouldn't even exist.
As for VW, small fish are small fish, I start caring about these small fish when the big fish are dealt with.
VW Group is Number One or Two in the world. Toyota is the other
Used to be General Motors.
BTW, Google ''Operation Paper Clip'' and see what happened to many of the Nazis in 1946. Recruited by the Pentagon
Signed "a sympathetic concerned citizen" who also sells GM cars at your local dealership near you.
Does the car pollute more than the EPA did just last month?
How quickly Lie-berals forget/never learn.
Hard to say but I'm wondering how many VW diesel buyers will want their money back -- in cash, on the purchase price of their car when new. I sure would. Rake them over the coals and get a new car that smogs.
New law,
Mandatory Tune ups at your dealer on a monthly basis Cost? a mere 200 bucks. If you don't pass the test you are grounded..
Japan has mandatory yearly tuneups that run close to $1000.
And don't they have to pull the engines at 50,000?
They do! And sell them to Americans. I know because I bought one for my wife's '89 once it started smoking. We still run it though not much. Always starts.
We have yearly safety inspections. 2 much rust? It has to be taken off the road. Cost? 45 Euros for the inspection.
In Germany they even put the car on the dyno and test brake fluid for water. Very strict
Last time I was in the USA (2002) I saw rustbuckets on the road that would have been in the crusher hear a long time ago.
We have yearly safety inspections. 2 much rust? It has to be taken off the road. Cost? 45 Euros for the inspection.
In Germany they even put the car on the dyno and test brake fluid for water. Very strict
Last time I was in the USA (2002) I saw rustbuckets on the road that would have been in the crusher hear a long time ago.
your civilization is so advanced. we can learn much from you. keep sharing.
Not advanced, just common sense.
When you can cruise the autobahn at 120mph legally do you want a car that is a rust bucket and unsafe?
Common sense,
List of largest auto mfgs in the world
VW is number 2
http://www.statista.com/statistics/275520/ranking-of-car-manufacturers-b...
* subject to change.
i guess all vw owner should have set their cars on fire the moment they heard the news..................think about it, if they did not protest by trashing their cars some asshole might leave a fucking note like this on your car
When the whole controversy 1st broke I just laughed and said "VW continuing uncle Hitler's hobby of gassing the masses"... not very many found it funny :(
If ur in North NJ tell me where ur gay POS is and I'll tell u when u can watch me put the same sign on ur crap. 100% guarantee u will do nothing but call the cops or record me or whatever u tough guy manginas do. 100% / $1000 money back guarantee.
I'm in Bridgewater NJ. I have no fucking idea what you are talking about. But come here and I will watch you do whatever it is you are bragging about doing.
Sure pussy sure...
Body Count
GM= 178
VW= 0
These square heads are going to slaughter .
GM had better cronies.
Who says they weren't doing the same thing?
GM? They are doing everything illegal that can be legally done. And before you lose your mind over that bit of injustice just wait until the Germans out the Americans on what Ford and GM have been up to. At least as bad if not worse. But Ford and GM have been paying off Congress for decades, EPA will roll over like a trained dog, they have nothing whatsoever to worry about there. Americans will still buy the cars no matter what the lies told about them (just read around the thread here) and offshore sales will hardly change, nobody in China or S. America gives a damn about emissions levels.
VW is going to take a hit because they tried to sleaze their way into the US market. Only Ford and GM can sleaze in this neck of the woods!
Maybe it has something to do with voluntary political contributions.
Maybe not.
Wasn't it VW that had those "green police" commercials?
I remember those commercials. They got even funnier when people started getting offended. I think that was Audi, but they're the same company.
The Green poice, they live inside of my head.
The Green police, they come to me in my bed.
The Green Police, they're coming to arrest me, OH NO!
The Green police, police, police.
Now that damn song is stuck in my head. Thanks alot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjMCaw4qzjg
Sanctimonious, self-righteous hipster cocksucker fuckwit. No doubt on his way to making somebody's day.
And the next note that will be left on the windshield will be from an attorney specializing in big-ticket class-action lawsuits.
I love the smell of $200B burning in the morning.