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Moscow Approves Military Action In Syria, Video Captures First Russian Air Strikes
A week ago in “Endgame: Putin Plans To Strike ISIS With Or Without US,” we reported that Russia was set to launch unilateral airstrikes against ISIS targets in Syria even if it does not receive the support of the US-led “coalition.” These will of course be real airstrikes, designed to hit real targets, and kill real extremists because after all, preserving the Assad regime means Moscow has an incentive to wipe out terror in Syria. On the other hand, the US and its regional allies have an incentive to merely contain terror in Syria - if terrorist elements work to destabilize a regime that’s unfriendly towards the West then they serve a purpose even if that purpose is transient and limited, making it necessary to conduct bombing sorties not to "degrade and defeat", but merely to make sure Frankenstein doesn’t escape the lab, so to speak.
On the heels of Vladimir Putin’s speech at the UN and amusing interviews with Western media (in which he made his intentions in Syria clear beyond a shadow of a doubt, making it virtually impossible for Washington to keep up the “we don’t know what the Russians are doing at Latakia” narrative), Russian lawmakers have now officially approved the use of force abroad, setting the stage for airstrikes on Islamic State (and any other anti-regime "terrorists"). Here’s WSJ with more:
Russian lawmakers Wednesday approved the use of military force abroad following a request by President Vladimir Putin, paving the way for possible airstrikes in Syria.
The authorization—passed unanimously by Russia’s Federation Council— comes after a request for military assistance by Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, according to a top aide to Mr. Putin.
It comes as Russia has built up forces on the ground in Syria, including deploying combat aircraft, moves that have placed Moscow at odds with Washington. Sergei Ivanov, the Kremlin chief of staff, said Russia’s military involvement would be limited to an air campaign targeting Islamic State, or ISIL.
“As our president already said, the use of military forces in ground combat has been ruled out,” Mr. Ivanov said. “The military goal of these operations is exclusively limited to air support for the Syrian government forces in their campaign against ISIL.”
Through it all, both sides will desperately cling to their stories even as the words and actions of their respective leaders tell a completely different story. For instance, here’s WSJ parroting the “we’re just shocked at Russia’s actions” theme:
The authorization for the use of force represents something of an about-face for the Kremlin.
And here’s Russia denying the fact that this is a very clear attempt to exploit ISIS and the regional ambitions of Moscow’s allies in Tehran on the way to securing a more prominent geopolitical role for The Kremlin in the Mid-East:
Mr. Ivanov said that thousands of Russian citizens and others from the former Soviet Union are fighting on the side of Islamic State, and that many have returned home, presenting a direct threat.
“The point here is not in achieving any foreign policy goals or satisfying ambitions,” Mr. Ivanov said.
Of course Ivanov immediately qualified that assessment by saying that “we’re talking exclusively about Russia’s national interests.”
Now obviously, that kind of doublespeak makes it possible to completely reinterpret the first statement. That is, if one equates Russia’s “foreign policy goals” and regional “ambitions” with the country’s “national interests” (and really, you couldn’t possibly separate those things) then the first statement doesn’t mean what Ivanov wants you to believe it means.
Meanwhile, foreign minister Sergei Lavrov met with his permanent Security Council member counterparts on Tuesday to discuss Syria. Here's the official line from the Russian Foreign Ministry:
On September 29, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov attended a traditional lunch for the foreign ministers of the five permanent UN Security Council members with UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon held in New York.
The lunch participants focused on Syria in light of the increasing terrorist threat coming from the so-called Islamic State (ISIS). The Russian minster pointed to the need to create a broad counterterrorism front based on a solid foundation of international law and uniting all countries that provide a practical contribution to this struggle, including Syria’s armed forces.
They also discussed the settlement process in Yemen, where the military-political and humanitarian situation has seriously deteriorated in the past few months, as well as the possibilities of a peaceful solution to the conflict in South Sudan.
We'd be curious to know what the Chinese side had to say at the luncheon.
In any event, it's now official. Russia has cleared up any legal ambiguity around airstrikes in Syria and one can expect to see planes in the sky (they're already on the ground) in Syria in short order and if the following is any indication, they may have already started:
Somehow we suspect Russia's brand of anti-militant airstrikes will be far more effective than the Western brand has been over the course of the past year. Additionally, it's worth noting that at this juncture, the rumor mill will move from focusing on whether the planes overhead are Russian to whether the troops on the ground are Russian and while we can't know for sure, we certainly imagine that if any Russian pilots wind up being burned alive in a slickly-produced propaganda video, Putin's official line on combat troops might change rather quickly.
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saudi arabia, the usa, and isis v. putin, china, and syria. egad what a bizarre world.
Hopefully Russia will eradicate CAIR out of the Whitehouse.
Do you suppose the Secret Service will let them in the front door?
a Truly Sad State of the Union for the US.
Putin is a Master Bridge player while Oblamo, Kerry, Clinton are idiot newbies trying to learn the game.
Putin is running the table earning all the tricks (bridge talk for for winning every play).
NoVa
nova, us leaders are getting what they want, it's just not what you seem to think should be the goals..the agenda is not what we all would want..sorry but boehner will cry for you if you pay him.
boehner will cry for you if you pay him.
You know someone will....no, I don't know why.
the puppets (er, US Leaders) are smiling after getting exactly what they wanted. That is sad part as we silent majority will be stuck with the smoldering sh*t that these elites leave for us to clean u in years (decades) ahead.
Here we go ...another war for fake reasons to kill more plebeians.
All these leaders just recently had a love fest at the UN. They are all on the same team.
Relax all you doomsayers. Hang it up you there-all-in-on-it-together claimers. I'm happy to say that the USA has [wisely] backed down ... again. From moonofalabama.org Under Russian Pressure U.S. Accepts "Unified", "Secular" Syrian State
Putin's realist talk about Syria at the UN, which embarrassed the platitude spouting Obama, led to a change in U.S. policies. The White House has halted the Pentagon training of the unicorn riding "moderate rebels". That program is toast but the real question is if the "secret" CIA run program, which is vastly more extensive, is also suspended. My hunch is that it is.
On top of that Secretary of State Kerry made a very new statement that amounts to a really significant change in policy: The United States and Russia agree on "some fundamental principles" for Syria, the U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said on Tuesday, adding that he plans to meet again with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Wednesday. "There was agreement that Syria should be a unified country, united, that it needs to be secular, that ISIL (Islamic State) needs to be taken on, and that there needs to be a managed transition," Kerry told MSNBC, adding that differences remained on what the outcome of such a transition would be.
Never before has the U.S. officially expressed a demand that the Syrian state should in future be "secular" as it is now. This is a rejection of the Muslim Brotherhood dominated Syrian exile coalition and of the GCC states' proxy fighters in Syria who demand a sectarian state based on Islamic law.
Since Israel lost the 2006 war against Hizbullah the U.S. and Israel plotted to overthrow the Syrian government ... to moonofalabama.org
When it comes to humans it is wise to watch what they do. Statements are easy to make.
and check it out, Russian legislators actually get to authorize the military action, instead of being handed a fait accompli 3 months after it's already under way
They have done so but the Russian military commander has said he doesn't see a need for them at the moment.
On Zion's other front, it is of no surprise that Ukraine has no (or at least not enough) money for gas for the winter. Putin has stated that the EU should pony up the cash (nice twist of the knife).
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF...
No, the idiots are the American people in general with a smal, but growing number of exceptions.
The propaganda isn't directed at you or me, it is directed at the galactic chump class of establishment voters.
Every time there's an explosion I hear someone say "allahu akbar" - I guess it must mean "look an explosion".
It's fun learning foreign words.
I heard it means "Allah is great".
So I guess that means that Allah is a plume of smoke.
Like so many other wars, most of the players pray to the same God.
Two men say they're Jesus one of them must be wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rWuc5kar3Y
Why?
I self-identify as Jesus. No one fucks with me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoT1mD8vff4
prescient song, prescient band name
Hezbollah and the Syrian Army do not say that in their videos. Hezbollah is very professional.
I wonder if Russia, China, Syrian Army and Hezbollah will be able to cut off any resupply at the borders and shoot down any C-130s dropping supplies.
If they can cut off the resupply and jam the ISIS scum radio and satellite transmissions then this should not last long. Also tell the Saudis that they will supply rebels in Yemen if the Suaids persist in Syria and tell Qatar that they are next - US base or no US base.
The Russian military is giving the US some time to get its act together and start sharing intelligence. After that it is just a case of "with us or against us".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-23kmhc3P8U
Unlike the Smirking Chimp's bs, this is for real.
One of Russia's aims is to help Syria seal its borders, especially the one with Turkey, Israel and Jordon to prevent any more ISIS fighters from getting into Syria
Nyet.
They got through the air defenses?
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-Russia-demands-that-American-pla...
I so hope that that demand is true.
Someone has to stand up to the USA's Global War Tour. Enough already!
This, from the jpost link, "There is nothing to indicate that we are changing operations over Syria," a senior defense official told Fox, conflicts with moonofalabama.org who claims big changes are underway. No more supplying rebels for instance. I'm going with moon.
Published: 21:57 GMT, 23 September 2014 | Updated: 08:22 GMT, 24 September 2014
So, what exactly is your message, message? That over the course of one year, US airstrikes have proven to be useless?yes, they have little effect in stopping ISIS. Everyone knows that. It doesn't matter who bombs them.
There must be boots on the ground.
There are a lot of boots on the ground (SAA, Hezbollah, QUDS, Kurds). What they need is REAL air support.
Enter Putin...
Hezbollah? Fighting in Syria and Iraq against ISIS? Those are small number just on border. It is not how ISIS can be win.
If all they need was few fighter jets from Russia to win ISIS - I will be glad to see how they crash those islamic idiots. But that is not how it will go. No actual modern army boots on the ground against ISIS. NATO could act as it has modern army. But not russkies. There is nothing they can offer. And will not offer - can't afford it.
China has millions they could send.
They have so many men available that they could defeat ISIS without using any weapons.
Hezbollah has been there for a while.
I guess you have not seen was 30 to 65 year old farmers and mines from Donbas (DPR) did with WW2 era weapons and AK-47s against a fairly modern army.
ZATO is a paper tiger. Hopefully more American kids will wake up and realize they are cannon fodder for the ZWO/NWO.
It does matter: US is not asked by Assad to bomb ISIS, Russa is. US breaks international law, Russia operates in accordance with it. Hope that helps, asshole.
Both act without UNSC resolution.
No resolution is needed when invited by the host country.
Where the fuck is the UNSC resolution for US being in Ukraine, Poland, Estonia or Latvia.
Where was that resolution for NATO to attack Serbia under Bill Clinton?
How about Haiti?
Where was the UN resolution to go into Panama and drag Noriega into the US for drug trafficking charges?
Vietnam, Korea?????
The explicit request for aid from a coalition of military forces by the legitimate leader of Syria also precludes any UNSC bait-and-switch shit from the ZioNazis.
A2/AD in action
http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/russia-building-a2ad...
? Primo Levi The Debt-Money Monopolist Monsters created and control the United Nations. That's why they sent in UN personnel and told them DON'T FIND OUT WHO SHOT OFF THE SARIN GAS IN SYRIA. The Monsters already knew who did it, but they lied to try and invade a sovereign country... with less pretext than Hitler had for invading Poland (and HItler was a control freak bad guy... defeated by the current crop of propagandistic control freak bad guys). Stop being a schumck and swallowing the propaganda whole without even bothering to taste it. Russia didn't oerthrow the Ukraine, THE DEBT-MONEY MONOPOLY OVERTHREW THE UKRAINE MONTHS AFTER THE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT REJECTED THE DEBT-MONEY EURO. WITH THE JUNTA GOVERNMENTS IN PLACE, THEY ARE NOW ON THE EURO. Russia is merely trying to defend its only warm water port from the naked Bankster aggression via their financed vassal Western governments. Take the red pill. At this point, the blue pill is dangerous to all of us.
"There must be boots on the ground."
I recommend a contingent of Latvian potato farmers should go in there. That'll show 'em you mean business.
Ahhh sweet... my little trusty puppy smackery is here.. well how was your day so far? A? :)
Hey choomboy from latvia go polosh my shoes your internet time is over.
No. US disposes of ordnance where expiry date has been reached targeting insignificant structures, most of them civilian, and declares these illegal acts as "fight against terrorism". Goal is to destroy as much civilian infrastructure as possbile so that Halliburton can make a killing once the dust settles.
Yeah, but if Assad stays in power no US or EU firm will get any of those contracts. It will go to Russian and Chinese entities with some leftovers thrown to those that were neutral.
@message -- the only reason the US would destroy ISIS would be to burn the evidence before the Ruskies get there. Dead men tell no tales.
You forgot tge chozins.
Toss Iran and Iraq in there with the Russia, China side and toss Turkey into the US, Saudi, ISIS side.
Yeah, THAT Iraq, that the US spent untold lives bring democracy to.
You still believe that "bringing democracy" crap?
Really?? Are you that big of an idiot?
Why you hiding Israel? You and the guy up thread choosing up sides won't mention the name that can not be mentioned?
Now the war gets real. How will Obama save his creation, ISIS?
If China joins Russia in Syria, then it is game over
A Russian, Chinese, Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian alliance against ISIS perhaps may encourage other countries to join it – a possibility likely terrifying Obama officials and their war-mongering partners
http://www.globalresearch.ca/china-joins-the-fight-against-isis/5478767
The U.S. Military can take 'em!
At what cost in young American blood? These are not your average rugheads hiding in caves, these are well armed rested and well trained military.
ISIS the work of McCain and Hillary. Good job. Israel is to the south. Take M-5 south then west. Plant the flag. Use the old USSR hammer and sickle for effect.
ISIS is made up of serial killer gangs with Western weapons. They are expendable pawns. If the Ruskies don't kill them they will be finished off by the DC alphabetroids. Otherwise they will sing.
There are a bunch of others including Soros, NeoCons and NeoLibs like Schumer, Feinstein and endless other dual citizens in CON-Grezz(io).
Elected representatives who jump up and down giving standing ovations for Bibi and Porky Poroshenko aka Sholomo Valtzman with 3 or more passports who shells innocent women and children in Donbas and Lughansk.
Shlomo Valtzman?? How stupid are the Ukies to fall for these clowns? No more Polish jokes. The Ukies take the prize. The again look at Amrica.
I propose a ZH toast this evening with some fine Russian vodka!
Agreed, Putin is going to kick some ISIS ass.
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Sorry for multiple posts
Wouldn't it be the irony of ironies if Putin sorts the ragheads out in short order...
MSM in Europe have been painting him as the baby eating tyrant.Until today. Noticed a shift in The Telegraph's rhetoric with this headline: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11900206/Vlad...
Compared with the crap the DT usually write about Putin this is positively respectful.
As far as the public goes - right now stemming the flow of Islamic economic migrants to Europe would make your indigenous think Putin was the second coming. Given all the pols except the Hungarian have allowed a plague in - and the public are well aware who to point the pitchfork at.
Interesting times coming to Europe. Things may get a bit frostie with "over the pond" relations if he (or rather his forces) makes a difference.
I propose a ZH toast this evening with some fine Russian vodka!
Morning here.....but I'll drink to that.
Nostrovia!
Hot Dawg, this is gonna be like the coalition Sr Bush put up against Saddam in the 1st Gulf War.
Bomb them all the way back to tel aviv Vlad.
fat ass war monger nj govenor on fox just now: " anyone who thinks russia should remove isis just does not understand US policy" says WE have to fight in syria not let russia have the glory..
that fat fuck never fought one minute in combat nor could he with fat ass he carries around. fuck you govenor.
Fuck that Zionist pig.
Do you imply he is slightly overweight?
huh? That porker fights his face 24/7.....neo cons. They must be removed or innocent Americans will perish!
Go Putin !!
Fuck you Obama!!!
Thanks for the fish!
Camaramans praying.
Muzzies have a compulsive disorder. Every 2nd sentence they need to throw in an 'allah akbar'.
<-- Din du Nuffin
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Meanwhile, U.S. ally and NATO member Turkey is bombing the hell out of the Kurds.
Looks like Putin is going to wipe out CIA-ISIS. At least the U.S.S.A still has AL-CIA-DUH for a boogie man.
It will be funny to see just how quickly ISIS becomes The-Name-Not-Mentioned by our politicians and the MSM. I bet in a couple of weeks they will be acting as if their creation never existed.
Alas, Babylon...
Go Russia. Bomb those filthy barbarians.
I hope they nail the American leadership over there. We should be seeing them in videos soon.
Well played Vlad. Pulling the troops back from Ukraine would be a nice move too.
Why back off in Ukraine? Vlad should increase the pressure there too.
putins solution in Syria:
https://youtu.be/DuKtTgAYJNI
U.S. Airstrikes Against ISIS In Iraq And Syria Surge To Record Levels Aircraft dropped more bombs and missiles on ISIS targets in July than any other month in the year-long conflict, U.S. military statistics show
Like the 100m VC miltary stats showed KIA ?
record bombs & yet ISIS and other US/Saudi-backed terrorists still advancing. Funny that.
ordnance with exiry date crossed, disposed over civilian infrastructure. Against international law.
The Russians have a legitimate concern the terrists will soon attack greater Russia; these areas are on their doorsteps.
I do think the Syrian Army with the other allied countries will wipe out the military force of Daesh.
El Bagdaddy now knows who and what is coming after him: Syria, Russia, China, Iraq and Iran.
(Plus the Frenchies, who will want some action- business- after the war is over).
If only the Politicians themselves and their minions fought in the wars they create . Call for war then LEAD THE CHARGE !
Putin doen't give a shit about Assad or ISIS! His only moto is staying in power in Russia.
Roughly 2500 years ago Plato published The Republic where he explains (simplified quote): Tyrant will always be seeking war one or another for his people always needed a leader. This also allows suppressing any of his foes on the grounds of treason.
Putin has a huge economic and poverty problem on hands in Russia and some war, be it in Ukraine or Syria, is merely his way of keeping his power in Russia.
Don't expect him to fight ISIS. He needs continuied instability in the region in order to inflate crude oil prices.
Are you getting paid for this or you are just that ignorant and stupid?
I was born in Moscow, USSR and live in this asshole for 41 years. I know what I am talking about.
I might dislike CIA as much as most of you here, but loving Putin is like loving Hitler. You are complete idiots!
oh yea, seems like you got new trolling guidelines, geez.
freeDumb fuck you!
You are a fuckface son of a bitch , who needs a bullet in the head/
We hate NAZIS like you.
Long live Putin!!!!!
Hei Freesht,
Could you please, as incomplete idiot, explain what you as russian would like to see? Maybe more of saviour Yeltzin?
...you lived in an "asshole for 41 years."? No wonder you're so full of shit!
freeDom was the worlds first Russian asshole baby
I was born in USSR and live here in Russia, and the only asshole I see is somebody who moans about the country he is living in and not doing anything about it. Either man up and emmigrate the fuck away because this situation won't change soon, join an opposition movement that has an actual program to make things better rather than consist of one goal to topple Putin or just give up and concentrate on making life better for your loved ones.
Maybe Putin is not the best leader for times of peace, where you have to do a lot of mundane and not so obvious things to improve the economy and social life. But for turbulent times when there is a major powershift on the global arena he's most probably your best bet. So far he's doing things that lay the groundwork for Russia to be one of the top global players for years to come with all the bells and whistles that it entails.
The problem is that thanks to propaganda (and I know, that it comes from both sides) some libertards are moaning that Russia shouldn't have done this and shouldn't have done that, because, oh the horror, sanctions and major rouble devaluation is here and we're all gonna die blah-blah-blah. Like if we hadn't listened to Crimea's choice we would've been okay.
Thing is it was just a matter of time before the tensions would have risen, Crimea or not. Putin was just reacting quicker and not shy to make some bold moves.
And I understand how some US citizens feel about Obama, I too was pretty embarassed when we had Yeltsin as president (who was a darling with the West, can you imagine that). Now, I'm proud that we have a strong leader, who actually has a vision and a plan. And only wish that Vladimir Vladimirovich and his allies are wise and prudent enough to outplay the hotheads on the other side and not allow either chaos and disintegration in Russia or a WW3 in general.
P.S. And no, I'm not getting paid by the Kremlin. Cross my heart.
Putin is in power for 15 years and some of those years were incredibly fat.
What are his achievements? Name a few, please!
Did he build thousands of kilometers of highways? (2 lanes in each direction with a barrier between them and no freaking villages with speed traps) No, he didn't. We still have no highway even between Moscow and Saint-Peterburg, our two major cities. BTW, in 1930s Hitler built 3000km of highways in 3 years.
Our rockets were designed in 1970s and while they are still cheap, we will eventually lose this race to SpaceX, because our Angara rocket will be a failure.
"our" sukhoi super jet is on 85% consists of foreign parts. Add more sanctions and we won't even have passenger planes to fly!
Tell me what our products "made in russia" are popular in the rest of the world. We do not produce anything. We sell the resources and use the proceeds to fund imports and the rest of the inefficient economy. 99% of corporate profits are concentrated in resouce extracting industries.
Putin is weak. He has no idea how to stimulate growth, create new modern industries or stop corruption. To divert public oppinion from his management failures he starts senseless wars.
And finally - HE HAS STRIPPED US OFF ALL THE FUCKING CIVIL FREEDOMS!!! You cannot even hold a single person protest now without being fined hard or jailed!
And yes, I was fighting, but now I see no point and I do plan to get the hell outta here before it's too late and we have people killing for food like in venesuela.
Jesus H. Christ!
Blabbering with a handy list of claims in hand just shows how opinionated (read closed to reality) you are.
1. The fat years were when Putin has actually made a stand. The taxation of O&G industry rose from c. 20% in 1999 to c.65-70% by the end of 2012 (that's when I was looking at the numbers). He also did away with product sharing agreements in the O&G industry which were used to extract as much profit for the corporates while leaving almost all to nothing for the Russian budget. So, no, it's not just fat years but also having the courage to delve into the pockets of the oligarchs. If he was weak he would not have done this.
2. Angara will be a failiure because you have a PhD in rocket science and speak with authority on the subject? No? I didn't think so.
3. 99% of corporate profits are from resource extracting industries? Tell me, do you always pick numbers out of your ass?
4. Yes, you probably should get the hell out of here. I'll be glad to breathe some fresh air for a change.
http://www.rbc.ru/rbc500/
ok, ok, the figure is 97.7%, not 99%, sorry! but while i said "resource extracting", in fact it's ONLY oil and gas (that includes extracting, servicing and pipes).
http://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/56025ce79a794772af9c6484
Hasbara trolls running late this morning...
They kicked you out of Moscow because you are a Nazi son of a bitch. If I were Putin I would put bullet in your head and then take a shit in your mouth.
I see Freedom123 has signed up again under the name freed0m
Plato kinda 'splains US foreign policy. Thanks.
Great that you point that out. Now tell me why you single out Putin from your list of evils. He is not any better then the worst of politicians.
While I hardly espouse violence, the Russian airstrikes have an air of competency and effectiveness about them, unlike the typical American and NATO clusterfuck and three-ring circus. In other words, you GO, Putin!.........
ISIS just called the CIA to misplace some stingers via benghazi ...
Go Vlad!
US & EU seeks to create Qatar-Turkey pipeline through Syria. That would be alternative for Russian gas in EU. So it means a major problem for Russian elite as China economy slowing down and gas deal is still not working. For Russian elite Ukraine is nothing in compare with this problem. But Syria has been an ally to Russia since 1971 when Assad’s father made deal with USSR to create naval supply and maintenance base (reality on the ground is different – its hard to call a base at all). Since then Syria is a major client for Russian military complex. So what Russian elite did was veto on Qatar-Turkey pipeline project through it’s influence on Assad regime. So what Qatar did was it organized Assad overthrow and US with EU gave a helping hand – just to get rid of Assad in order to get this project going. So why Russian elite decided to step in now? Well, things for Assad regime go bad lately. Lot of territory lost and actually end of Assad is very close. So after Assad Qatar with EU, US, Turkey (they will be happy to get rid of Kurds as they will have their country on old Syria territory) and Kurds will divide Syria. In result Russia elite can lose not only that “naval base” – but most importantly major client for it’s gas – EU. And that could be devastating blow for Russian economy. So what Russian elite hope to do is to get some piece of land in Syria to control it after Syria is dived where Assad alawites can hold their ground and still block Qatar-Turkey pipeline project. I think this is too late at this stage and Russia will only lose it’s resources and this will be hard to explain at home. But I guess as Russian elite controls media it will manage to deal with that problem. Still, if this project gets through – Russia economy is in very serious trouble and there can be a collapse. So that is what’s going on in Syria.
After Russia elite made military support to Assad which is hated by Sunni (look at this map) it will get revange from Islamic terrorists in Caucasus region and in heart of Russia - that will destabilze Russia.
putin thought will make a deal in UN with US to create coalition together against ISIS and that way US will forgive putin regime crimes in Ukraine. But deal was not made - putin returned back home with empty hands. Of course he can also bomb ISIS as France, UK, Israel, US, Turkey, etc. But that is not how one can win ISIS. There must be boots on the ground. But that putin regime can't afford.
Hasbara trolls finally stumbled to the coffee pot...
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''Message'' had to go upstairs to change the sheets for his cunt whore momma. Her client just left.
Ha ha ha you are one pathetic creature – even when I pointed out your loyalty to my comments and named you as slimy – and called your name – here slimy – you obeyed my commands slimy. Now this is you name forever.
Well boy, what tricks you know?
I know how to put a bullet between your Nazi eyes and then crap in your mouth.
Pretty nice trick eh??
Pissing yourself all over and making farts are not tricks. You should know that. But as plus – at least you keep on obeying my commands and keep on following to my comments. Now, how about a bark? Can you bark? Bark: “putin, putin putin” ha ha ha :D
I have got my own personal little Latvian, bitch boy. Go fetch, Bozo. LOL
I bet you are proud to be the worlds first Latvian asshole baby. Bet your cunt mothers asshole is still stretched wide after shitting you out.
Sure the Assads have always been an ally of Russia. What's your point? Unlike Uncle Sugar, the Russians deliver on their end of the bargain.
If the Israelis had the sense God gave granite, Israel would be a Russian ally too.
The day she becomes one, the Arabs will be falling over themselves to recognize Israel's right to exist. You'll see.
No-body likes you, you talk shit, no-body wants you here, you are pathetic, you (most probably) are a paid Estonian/Latvian/Polish troll, you suck, you're not funny, you're a braindead cretinous piece of jism..
Get the message, Message?
Bulgaria to US backed ISIS.
http://www.janes.com/article/54773/analysis-un-document-shows-us-bought-...
What Laurent Fabius of France tauntingly asked for from Putin in the UN he is now gonna get...russian AIR STRikEs.
What happens to Assad in the coming months will determine whether the red line in the sand is Red from ISIS blood or from Alawite blood.
I voted for Asma as new queen of Syria (she or another family member) to avoid that Alawite outcome which would mean an ongoing and long war in the ME; possibly with spill-over elsewhere (Its already happening in Yemen); as its not JUST the markets which are interconnected but also the military networks.
As if 250000 dead in Syria and 30000 in Iraq in this new phase is not enuff innocent bloodshed.
WHen the dogs of war are truly unleashed...
BTW : The photo heading this article below shows us who is REALLY pulling the strings in the war against Assad, and the indirect help to "moderate" rebels...ya'll know what "moderate" means in Saudi lingo !
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/30/saudi-arabia-warns-there-is...
Russia appears to have carried out its first air strikes in Syria against opponents of President Bashar al-Assad, US officials say.
They say the strikes reportedly came in the area of the city of Homs, and that Washington was informed in advance that they were about to take place.
and:
"Russian officials have demanded that American warplanes exit Syrian airspace immediately, a senior U.S. official told Fox News early Wednesday.
The official told Fox News that Russian diplomats sent an official demarche ordering U.S. planes out of Syria, adding that Russian fighter jets were now flying over Syrian territory."
"...in the area of the city of Homs, and that Washington was informed in advance that they were about to take place."
ISIS terrorists might have had enough time to move out of the Russian airstrike zone.
Chechen leader Kadyrov supports Putin's intervention in Syria and says he would send (Chechen) ground troops if needed. (in Russian)
First lol, you think that has something to do with the economy. Second, that something in the mail did that. So desperate and needy to be 'right' on some call you made months ago as if anyone is keep tracking. People are dead and you're on some petty shit like that. But then a number of the 'Tyler's' are Jews with the main one having been banned from trading for life for doing exactly what he whines about everyday hahaha. Oh the irony. Jealous he can't steal shekels with his Hebrew brethren anymore.
Like ISIS, "made for TV" war and violence. Root for your favorite side. Revel in the blooshed ... praise Satan for these gifts that he brings you.
Sorry, I will choose another route.
Whoops, I thought you werre talking Dodgers' vs Giants' fans, for a second.
I don't buy the 'nothing but air strikes' talk. There are going to be Russian boots on the ground with the Syrian army - at a minimum giving combat advice and coordinating artillery, helicopter, and air strikes. I envision a repeat of the U.S. Island hopping in the Pacific during WWII. They will pick various regions and towns - concentrate attacks on them - then take and hold them (under martial law). The more ISIS resists, the flatter the town will get.
There will also be Russian boots with towels on their head moving around to gather Intel on ISIS supplies and personnel - and likely a few 'wet' night raids.
It will only take one or two captured Russian fighter pilots for Putin to justify boots on the ground.
Can you believe it? Now the USA wants to nail Assad for crimes against humanity.
What about Netanyahu who targest women and children just for fighting to keep their land from being stolen?
Assad has been fighiing the USA funded and trained terrorists. He was elected and is protecting his country.
Fuck the USA pack of liars and ZioNazi SCUMMMM
Is it treason to side with foreign nationals against your country? Clearly Libertrian ultra-nationalist are (pointing at the head) fucked in the head.
Close my account, destroy all records.
Problem with Libatarians:
1. Ideological purity
Compromise as weakness
3. Fundamentalist belief in scriptural literalism
4. Denying science
5. Unmoved by facts
6. Undeterred by new information
7. A hostile fear of progress
8. A demonization of education
9. A need to control women’s bodies
10. Severe xenophobia
11. Tribal mentality
12. Intolerance of dissent
13. Pathological hatred of US government
Whereas you raise a number of good points about the libertarian creed and its descent into national obscurantism which is very reminiscent of Weimar Germany...
Your premise is not that of a man who cherishes "free will and freedom of mind" as cardinal human liberties.
Your premise : "my country right or wrong" is not what inspired the truth seekers of every land in the time line of western civilization and indeed that of the USA; as shown by the Pentagon Papers and the Watergate.
There are some values which are higher than blind patriotism.
The fight for freedom and good governance does not preclude dissidence from national policies to the point of even becoming a political refugee when they veer to despotism.
Lafayette was no traitor to country but he fled the Terror.
A lot of Germans fled Hitler's Third Reich. Doesn't make them traitors.
De Gaulle fled to Britain, France's traditional rival, for the greater cause of fighting fascism and ultimately freeing France.
I could go on.
But I do agree : There is something very rotten in the mindset of Libertarian politics.
But's thats not ZH in toto, although it is the forum majority and also a lot of those who post here.
The Tylers do try and play the whole field of the altermedia blogosphere in terms of inputs.
I respect that larger view and detest any form of total submission to obscurantist libertarianism per se.
+1
Its becoming abundantly clear that ISIS is USA/CIA/Saudi funded and controlled terrorists.
USA is now shitting bricks because instead of pretending to attack ISIS , Russia is actually doing the job.
Finally we have some real action.
Mr. Putin doesn't forgett to nuke the entire USA when all is done.
Russian soldiers and airmen will become target of kidknap and assassination attempts. Whoever organizes that will do that do make life difficult for the Russians and for Putin. Although I think that Putin will not respond lightly...
Finally, ISIS wil Tuck-Tail and run...
The human animal has fear centers that radiate out from around brain’s amygdala area. (Not 100% consensus on this area – but it seems to be implicated.) Human animal brain dreams up scepters and ghosts and monsters, and these fears can give fight or flight.
Hippocampus centers of brain tamp down scepters, as the logical mind says to the hind-mind, shut up, you are out of line.
Putin effectively went straight for hippocampus of Western mind by going to both press and leaders. He also worked to get Syrian authority in a legal fashion, which also appeals to the hippocampus. This authority was given tacit sanction from the west, which means war-mongering generals in the West, and their over-active fear centers, have been collared.
A double effect now, as European leaders will come to see Russia as rational actor, while America and Zion as irrational actor.
Of course, if one digs even a little at Talmud, it is obviously end product of psychopathy emanating from brain fear centers, and has nothing to do with a loving God, but instead one that panders to the baser animal instincts…the fear centers. Talmud/Cabala is an animating force, along with credit money power, that makes the West malfunction. When Russia was bolshevized it too was not acting in its best interests, but instead acted in accordance with the parasites wishes. Russia has since ejected its parasite and/or boxed it in.
It is no wonder the west is now becoming the psychopathic “animal” and Russia/China the higher civilized mind; the organizing philosophy of civilizations are now conflict.
Perhaps the massive unwanted immigration, and Russia’s “saving” of Europe will be a piece that helps break Zion’s parasitic grip. Euro-peons might finally wake from their slumber and realize they have been hosted; that Zion is really only interested in satisfying it’s fear centers. There is enough residual good will in Europe that Putin’s strategy will win out, and the fear mongers will be sent packing.
Russia wins…again. Right is might. Russia now has both legal authority and moral authority.
And its pockets....
Out of curiosity, does anyone know what Russia's capabilities are with regard to guided muntions vs. "dumb" bombs? I'd be interested to see just how prolifigate the ordinance expenditures will be on their part, and if they're primarily using "dumb" bombs if the TPTB will start harping on Russia causing horrible collateral damage -- you know not that the US ever does that or anything. My gut feeling is that Russian doctrine is going to tend to be a lot less "surgical" and a lot more scorched earth.
(Yes I'm newly registered, I've been reading for 2 years though - believe it or not.)
Russia should carpet bomb ISIS. America does it all the time .
Only when there's a wedding party.
Word on the streets is they hit all the Toyota delaerships in Northern Iraq with surgical precision.
I bet ISIS isn't wearing those white Nike shoes anymore. The ones they wore to identify themselves to their handlers in the USA.
I bet ISIS isn't wearing those white Nike shoes anymore. The ones they wore to identify themselves to their handlers in the USA.
Won't the USA look like a bunch of inept shitheads after Russia decimates ISIS in about a week to 10 days.
Why would USA be impressed with a 10% haircut? Amateur hour.
1. USA invents and funds ISIS. A hegemon needs a bogeyman like ham needs eggs (as Geobbels said).
2. USA pretends to whack ISIS. Hegemon kabuki theater.
3. Vlad whacks ISIS for real, and says "USA! Please come help us!"
4. USA stutters like Porky Pig, and concedes its inability to think two steps ahead.
5. Warmwater military port, expansion into Middle East, and closer ties to China and Iran for Vlad is assured.
6. Ta-dah. Bow. (Vlad).
[In a related note, USA admits that State is run by student interns.]
Author’s note and Update
The following article was first published in September 2014 at the outset of the air campaign “against the ISIS”. In recent developments Russia has officially joined the campaign against the Islamic State (ISIS). What are the implications?
Amply documented but rarely mentioned in news reports, the ISIS is a creation of US intelligence, recruited, trained and financed by the US and its allies including Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, Israel and Jordan.
What this means is that the ISIS terrorists are the foot soldiers of the Western alliance. While America claims to be targeting the ISIS, in reality it is protecting the ISIS. The air campaign is intent upon destroying Syria and Iraq rather than “going after the terrorists”.
But now Russia is involved in the campaign against the ISIS in coordination with the Syrian and Iraqi governments.
All I can think about, upon reading this, is the old "Pogo" cartoon", where the statement is made:
"I have seen the enemy, and he...is US!!!"
Read more: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3nF6ZNTzJ
Wouldn't it be less complicated and, not to say, cheaper if everyone just stayed home? I mean everyone. Go home and see if the world stabilizes.
First ISIS, then Saudi Arabia, and finish up with Israel....Oh what a dream!