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Oregon Community College Shooter Asked Victims To "State Their Religion" Before Executing Them

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UpdateDetails are trickling in about the latest mass shooting in the US and at least some reports indicate that the tragedy might have been tied to religion.

Here’s a bit of color from The Oregonian:

The shooter at Umpqua Community College on Thursday asked people to state their religion and then started firing, one student said.

 

Kortney Moore, an 18-year-old, told the News Review she was sitting in her writing class when a bullet blasted through the window. She saw her teacher shot in the head then noticed that the shooter was in the classroom.

 

Moore said the shooter told people to get on the ground. He then asked people to stand up and state their religion but started firing anywhere. She was on the ground next to people who'd been shot.

And here's USA Today:

One student, Kortney Moore, 18, told News Review-Today that she was in her writing class in Snyder Hall when a single shot came through a window.

 

Moore said she saw her teacher get shot in the head, apparently after the gunman came into the classroom. At that point, Moore told the newspaper, the shooter ordered everyone to get on the ground. The shooter then asked people to stand up and state their religion and then started firing, Moore said..

 

A witness at the scene in Roseburg said the male shooter was shot by police and was acting alone, according The Register-Guard  of Eugene. The report could not be immediately confirmed.

Finally, here's The New York Times:

A 20-year-old man went on a shooting rampage at a community college in Roseburg, Ore., on Thursday, killing multiple victims and injuring at least 20. Officials said the gunman died after an exchange of gunfire with the police.

Accounts of how many people were dead varied, with officials in the office of the Oregon attorney general, Ellen F. Rosenblum, putting the number at 13.

 

“We are just heartbroken here in Oregon that an act of this magnitude has occurred in our state,” Ms. Rosenblum told MSNBC. She cautioned that the situation was still developing.

 

A student, Brady Winder, 23, who moved to Roseburg from Portland three weeks ago, said he was in a room in Snyder Hall adjacent to where at least one shooting took place.

 

“I heard at least nine shots,” he said.

 

“There’s a door connecting our classroom to that classroom, and my teacher was going to knock on the door,” Mr. Winder said. “But she called out, `Is everybody O.K.?’ and then we heard a bunch more shots. We all froze for about half a second.”

 

“We heard people screaming next door,” he said. “And then everybody took off. People were hopping over desks, knocking things over.”

The tragedy is the latest in a string of violence that most recently included the murder of a Virgina TV reporter and cameraman on air and which just months ago saw nine people killed at an African American church in Chareleston, South Carolina. 
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Update: the shooter has been killed following a firefight with sheriff deputies:

 

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Moments ago, following a lull in reports of US mass killings, the newswires lit up with reports of the latest "active shooter" incident this time on the campus of Umpqua Community College in Oregon, where according to KATU 2 News, 14 people were killed and at least 20 injured in what is still a developing situation.

The Oregonian reports:

A shooter has been reported at Umpqua Community College, according to the Douglas County Fire District's Twitter account. It's unclear how many wounded or if the shooting is still ongoing at the Roseburg campus.  Sgt. Dwes Hutson, a Douglas County Sheriff's Office spokesman, says officers responded around 10:40 a.m. to reports of a shooting at the College. Huston could not confirm if anyone was injured.

The LA Times adds that the injured include a woman who was shot in the chest, said Chris Boice, a Douglas County commissioner. The shooting began within the last 30 minutes at Umpqua Community College. 

The good news: the shooter is "down and in custody," Boice said.


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Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:29 | 6616954 Hippocratic Oaf
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Fuckin BS

Send your kid to school.

Come back in a box...........bullshit

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:32 | 6616966 hedgeless_horseman
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Gun free zones are deadly.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:32 | 6616978 Ataxic Press
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Redacted

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:34 | 6616992 TongueStun
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If it's another democrat moonbat, the gun will only be blamed.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:39 | 6617021 Tom Servo
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Impossible!

 

Didn't the shooter see the "GUN FREE ZONE" signs?!

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:43 | 6617042 Freddie
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Did any students escape on the school bus to Gene Rosen's house?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kemn5bSG_mA

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:57 | 6617116 Manthong
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It’s a good thing no one will suggest that the solution to the shooting problem by all of the criminals, religious crazies, political crazies or demented malcontents mostly on psychotics is to restrict access to firearms by law abiding citizens who are only trying to protect themselves and their families.  

That would be plain stupid, wouldn’t it?

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:59 | 6617131 Overfed
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This is unpossible. Oregon has universal background checks AND it was in a gun-free zone.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:02 | 6617156 Serfs Up
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Cue ""market""jam in one minute so the Fed can help us all begin to heal from this tragedy.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:03 | 6617160 The Pope
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Quick! Somebody anagram Umpqua

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:15 | 6617223 Manthong
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 “It’s hard to imagine what I will do if a student walks into my class with a concealed weapon,” Junker said in an email. “Maybe I wouldn’t be able to tell. Maybe that is the worst part: never knowing if a student has a gun but having to assume that someone does.”

Hey, Professor Dipweed, that’s one of the major benefits of concealed carry.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:17 | 6617236 bob_stl
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These schools are killing people. Ban schools!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:34 | 6617350 The Pope
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Oh the conundrum! (as 'banning' schools would kill the proverbial STUDENT LOAN BUBBLE golden goose). Only a Bilderberger could possibly have the inbred gray matter to figure shit like that out.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:36 | 6617366 Handful of Dust
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ABC seems pretty concerned for those students' safety.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:48 | 6617430 Theosebes Goodfellow
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Since no one else will say it, I will.

Going to school in a gun-free zone is hazardous to your health.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:22 | 6617626 pods
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That tweet or whatever solidified my staying the fuck away from social media.

At least the buzzards wait for you to rot to start swarming you.

These sleazebags in the "media" would want nothing more than to be talking to this person live while they catch a bullet.

pods

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:30 | 6617669 Cornfedbloodstool
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Not that I am going to give this story more than 5 minutes of my time, It is a false flag until they prove to me otherwise.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 17:57 | 6618051 TeamDepends
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Smells like it so far. A student called into FOX and said there were two shooters, but ol' talking-head Shep corrected him, "Sheriff says only one". BTW, police arrived in APCs, military uniforms etc.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCGwYdoJB40

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 18:30 | 6618208 Whoa Dammit
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police arrived in APCs, military uniforms etc.

No one ever talks about how long it takes them to get kitted up like Rambo, and how many lives might have been saved if they just grabbed a bullet proof vest and rifle from their cars and went on in there.  

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 18:58 | 6618339 JLee2027
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We need to show heavily armed police and bodybags next to "Gun  Free Zones" signs.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:01 | 6618342 Pinch
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You American are so insane. I live in a country with much tighter gun laws, and we never have these shootings. The gun lobby in the US has your politicians by the balls. Fools.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:04 | 6618352 nmewn
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"I live in a country with much tighter gun laws..."

And that country would be what, China?

It's a lot like comparing incarceration rates isn't it? I mean, if the entire country is a prison...lol. 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:30 | 6618436 The Pope
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From my perspective, ANY country with gun (ownership) 'LAWS' would be off my radar as a place I'd be interested in migrating to.

 

Most especially becaue I'd naturally be predispose to consider it's citizens, probably, to be fucking dipshits.

 

The same logic applies to any AD HOC nominated STATE in the UNITED STATES - BTW

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:40 | 6618495 coinhead
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Another day, another fake shooting....

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 20:20 | 6618663 BigJim
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Sigh, another tragedy! When will Americans wake up and realise the Constitution is wrong??? Clearly it's time Americans realised it's out of date and brought in strict controls on the ownership of religion.

I'm not talking about banning religion, obviously; just background checks, maybe making it illegal for felons or the mentally unstable to possess religion, that kind of thing.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 20:55 | 6618778 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Those who advocate for gun-free zones, or gun restrictions in general, are just as responsible for these deaths as the killer himself.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 21:39 | 6618953 James_Cole
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Those who advocate for gun-free zones, or gun restrictions in general, are just as responsible for these deaths as the killer himself.

You're a fucking retard.

And what the fuck america? These gaddamn mass shootings seem to be happening all the time. Some bad shit in the water over there, no other western country has this. And it's almost always white people.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 23:46 | 6619284 FreedomGuy
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That's partly because dark people in dark neighborhoods go through metal detectors and searches at school. They kill each other after school and on weekends. About 50 per weekend in Chicago. 

Let's see if this was a workplace-violence Muslim, first. They let's see if he was a lib. Then let's see if he missed several courses of his psych meds. Then let's see if he was known to be dangerous but had to remain free due to ACLU rulings in the past. THEN, we can see if he was an evangelical, NRA, Republican, homophobic, anti-abortion, misogynistic, southern, white, Confederate flag waving, barbeque eating good ole boy. 

The Press will go directly after the last one. 

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 02:38 | 6619487 The Black Bishop
Thu, 10/01/2015 - 22:25 | 6619088 Implied Violins
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I've got a Christian, four Catholics, two Pagans, six Hindus, five Islams, a Seventh-Day Adventist, three Amish, seven Mormons and a dozen Hassidics in my gun safe that I'll trade for an Atheist or an Agnostic. Any takers?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 22:02 | 6618981 Aloysius Snuffl...
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I totally know what you mean. I happened to be driving north on I-5 from Roseburg this AM about an hour after the shooting and saw the waves of different vehicles responding from Eugene, Salem and Portland. There must have been at least a couple dozen running with flashing lights (including, oddly, a car with Washington plates). Personal vehicles, state explosives squad, marked DHS SUV, purpose-built unmarked cars, traveling alone or in pairs. A clown car parade that looked totally fake and rehearsed. I'm sure they all were briefed on this earlier in the week.

/Did I do it right?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 23:47 | 6619288 FreedomGuy
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Did any look Jewish?

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 02:39 | 6619489 The Black Bishop
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"the shooter asked people if they were Christian. “If they said yes, then they were shot in the head,” she wrote. “If they said no, or didn’t answer, they were shot in the legs.”"

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:56 | 6618563 Cruel Aid
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Who cares?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 20:09 | 6618623 NuckingFuts
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Pope,

As you stated so well to our friend Miffed yesterday, "who gives a FF what you think".

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 21:23 | 6618894 AGuy
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Of course in nations with GUN ownership, they just use bombs, and other destructive weapons. In the UK the Rucksack has become the Weapon of choice.

 

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:25 | 6618424 New_Meat
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Gotta' b Norway right?  I knew it!!!! I WIN!!!!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:28 | 6618426 Pickleton
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After seeing that avatar I was going to say, at least you're not a complete and utter imbecile. 

 

The gun lobby in the US has your politicians by the balls.

 

But after you said that, you apparently are.  If you don't know WTF you're talking about, it's better to just STFU.

 


Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:32 | 6618443 Save_America1st
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Wrong, fuck face.

The Constitution of the U.S. has the scumbag politicians by the balls, a-hole.  It's called the 2nd Amendment, and no degree of shootings like this anywhere, anytime in America shall be used as any reason to repeal anyone's right to bear arms. 

No laws will ever stop a criminal from obtaining a gun or other deadly weapon or from using them on others if they choose to flip out and do so.

But just one student in that room with a concealed weapon could have ended that fucker before he shot more people and would have saved lives.  If they all had guns I'm sure that fucker would have been disintigrated before he got more than a few shots off.

Because when seconds count...the police are many crucial minutes away. 

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:33 | 6618462 New_Meat
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"right to marry?  RIGHT TO CARRY!!!"

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 22:36 | 6619108 new game
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it is a statement about the mental health of america. guns are the tool used...

merica is sic and getting sicker. many many deeply rooted reasons that would need a book to untangle. we are here at the point of crazies determining the good of the super majority.

i dread the future, cause gun control is next, then 3-2-1, money(cashless) gone next. soylent zombiafried matrix locked shapeople beckons the future...

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 20:30 | 6618703 logicalman
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Don't know where you live.

I grew up in UK and was a member of a gun club for quite a few years - had a gun, never went out and shot anyone.

I now live in Canada. Don't own a firearm, too many hoops have to be jumped through, but even if I did own one the only thing would make me even point one at another person would be if said person intended me harm.

The US seems to have a predisposition for violence, more than most countries - guns are just one of the tools used. I don't think gun ownership influences violence in society, it's just a very efficient tool when someone with violent tendencies loses it.

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 20:57 | 6618794 nmewn
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Yeah, efficiency. I can hardly wait for my grandson to beat off attempts to regulate or have a waiting period for gasoline. You'd be surprised what a person with violent tendencies can do with a gallon of gas ;-)

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 21:23 | 6618892 newbie vampire
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"The gun lobby in the US has your politicians by the balls. Fools."

If it was NOT a "GUN FREE ZONE" perhaps one of the "fools" may have saved some lives.

If ever someone should wish harm on you or your loved ones, perhaps you would reason with them while he is shooting at you.  You are welcome to enlighten the rest of us with your "humanitarian" approach.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 21:25 | 6618903 CheapBastard
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Guns control had nothing to do with it; Global Warming and Climate change obviously was the cause of this guys actions.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 22:39 | 6619124 new game
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running a little hot tonight...

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 08:54 | 6620027 Agstacker
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Go back to Washington D.C., we don't like your kind here.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:09 | 6618346 zelator
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Ban SSRIs not guns

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:16 | 6618393 conscious being
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The US is being humiliated on the world stage as the twisred DC plans for Syria fall apart. What better time for a rivitting distraction to ... Hey look over there! Is that another school shooting?

Sun, 10/04/2015 - 14:08 | 6628615 Flagit
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no one gives a fuck what you think. grow up, conscious cunt

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:23 | 6618420 New_Meat
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Cornfed:

"It is a false flag until they prove to me otherwise...."

... er ... I guess you will have your head up your ass for the rest of your a) natural and then b) cyber life.

Sheeesh.

- Ned

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:38 | 6618481 New_Meat
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So reddiez, gnats that you are, who is going to prove the other case?  The same assholes who fired off the false flag?

Yo, how would you reddiez know the difference?  I  know this answer, you don't nor can you.

With kind warmth for your unfortunate condition:

- Ned

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 21:57 | 6619005 Aloysius Snuffl...
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Yup, the chaotic parade of vehicles with flashing lights traveling down I-5 this AM just screamed "fake" to me. See my other comment.

Dipshit.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:34 | 6617700 Manthong
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“Going to school in a gun-free zone is hazardous to your health.” 

Hmm.. what’s the mass murder count on pistol ranges up to now?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:11 | 6617854 J S Bach
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"Moments ago, following a lull in reports of US mass killings..."

Doesn't this just say it all regarding our civilisation today?  In other words... "What's taken this mass shooting so long to occur?  We're overdue!"

90 years ago, the St. Valentine's Day Massacre happened in Chicago and it shook the nation's sensibilities for years. (And the victims were hoodlums who DESERVED it!)  Today, such atrocities are actually expected on a regular basis. (And the victims today are all innocent.)  How low we have sunk as a species.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:31 | 6618454 New_Meat
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Duuuuude, like your music 'n shit but since you are looking back that far, why not look back to the various anarchist bombings that were going on more than 100 years ago in the US.

I guess that you have sunk below whale-shit as an individual.  Don't claim any knowledge about species things.  Perhaps you are more omniscient than the rest of us?  Please give us demonstrations of your power.

With greatest respect to your old dead carcass, but really good musick,

I am your humble servant,

- Ned

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 21:51 | 6618715 J S Bach
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Duuuuude, Ned.  You're quite the conversationalist.  I'm sorry that my humble opinions offend you so.  Try to lighten up a little... I was only musing about the higher standards of a past which dwarfs our decadent present.  The only "demonstration of my power" that I can give is living a life that matches the moral code which I advocate.  This I try to do every day.

Glad you appreciate the greatest music ever written (and there's no "k" on the word "music").  You should try some whale shit as well... it's not bad once you've tasted it.

I am your ardent critic,

- Bach

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:55 | 6617473 Bush Baby
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Republicans will pray shooter is either a Left Wingnut, a Trumpster,an illegal, a Black or a jihadist.

Democrats will pray it's  a Republican, extra 10 points if it's a Trumster.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:31 | 6617680 MalteseFalcon
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Let's give independent investigators a week or so.

Every other "shooting" has been exposed as faux.

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:41 | 6618500 New_Meat
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Brian what's his fuck had the colorado movie shooter as a tea party duuuuuuuuude in about 3.5 msec

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:50 | 6617445 Bush Baby
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Bullish Weapons Manufacturers

will be another flood of buying

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 18:05 | 6618090 greenskeeper carl
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I know, right. After that shit on TV with the reporter, I went out and bought another one. Id been saving up for it, and went right over there after it happned and bought it. Hard to blame people for wanting to do the same.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 18:33 | 6618220 negative rates
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You'd be a tad hypocrticial after making your living and retirement from gvt military contracts and then not supporting the cause.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:42 | 6618328 e_goldstein
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Following the money, it could be a play by Cerberus Capital to keep Remington from going under.

(fuck, and I thought I was cynical before)

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 17:09 | 6617847 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Sadly, some Americans appear capable of saying such a thing not in jest.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 21:21 | 6618882 Calmyourself
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Here is one oif your swedish friends Ewik..  He has something you lack; common sense.. https://youtu.be/3KSJY0c8QWw
Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:35 | 6617362 El Vaquero
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No shit.  Concealed means fucking concealed.  A question for Professor Dipweed:  If student carrys into your classroom, you don't know, then the student walks out without anybody ever knowing that he was armed, what harm was done?

 

(I think I can answer that question for the professor:  It makes his butt hurt.)

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:35 | 6618469 max2205
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Did he have a beard and a black flag 

 

This is why Barry wants college to be free   

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 17:20 | 6617896 PTR
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“It’s hard to imagine what I will do if a student walks into my class with a concealed weapon,” Junker said in an email. “Maybe I wouldn’t be able to tell. Maybe that is the worst part: never knowing if a student has a gun but having to assume that someone does.”

 

That's why you gauge the person for the possibility of violence.  Honest and sane people would not use said weapon in an awful manner.  How does the man know that someone's soda can isn't a nail bomb?  He doesn't.  

Tools are not the root of all violence.  

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:27 | 6618439 shovelhead
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I dunno.

I saw a guy get stabbed with a screwdriver.

That tool got rooted with violence.

No Ban Screwdrivers marches though...

No wonder. We thought it was mostly pretty funny once we knew he was going to live.

"Wanna get a drink after work?"

"Yeah, howza screwdriver with a twist sound?"

"Just like Jimmy...Aaaagghh...Hahaha."

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:18 | 6617243 A Nanny Moose
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Doompety Doo

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:23 | 6618416 Squid Viscous
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Umpqua = Hoax in the original Inuit language

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:23 | 6617264 taoJones
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OK, pope, how about: Paquum

i.e.

If you have guns, load 'em & paquum

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:37 | 6617363 The Pope
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Good start. But I'm thinking you'd have to add 'community college' to the equation to get to where you're going. (vis-a-vis the Lee Harvey Oswald 'Slay all who lead' crap fest).

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:21 | 6617583 fuu
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Qua Ump

Community College = Lyceum Loco Meting

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:23 | 6617635 The Pope
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fuu!!! you were, & ALWAYS WILL BE, the anagram king! :-)

 

The Pope

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:30 | 6617673 fuu
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Aww schucks.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:14 | 6618384 Macchendra
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Uaq M Up!

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 00:05 | 6619323 ShakaZulu
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Rosebud.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:05 | 6617172 Victor E. Overbanks
Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:41 | 6617389 Victor E. Overbanks
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Wow, my "Calling it now" got censored by twitter:

Here is another: https://twitter.com/VictorOverbanks/status/649654103233073156

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:57 | 6617484 BadDog
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If it's real, then it's a black swan because it was unexpected and a real one has never been sighted before.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:41 | 6617388 The Pope
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  "Oregon has universal background checks AND it was in a gun-free zone."

 

I'm thinking that the shooter was the same person who left that note on the VW TDI the other day.

 

Finally snapped! (Blame VW)

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 17:00 | 6617791 Meat Hammer
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Maybe the gun grabbers' strategy is to point out that the strict gun laws and background checks didn't work yet again, thus the only solution is to repeal 2A.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:17 | 6618394 The Pope
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On a more serious tone.

 

My takeaway from this is the publicized (assuming it was true) comment of "STATE YOU RELIGION"

 

Whether accurate or not, (& assuming possible PROPAGANDA influences), it naturally leads one towards the lines whereby the NEXT HEGELIAN DIALECTIC's are being cultivated to be drawn.

 

Just sayin'

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:41 | 6618506 CheapBastard
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So what answer did he want? Reminds me of that famous Monty Python scene where the Wizard asks each one what his fav color is:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWS8Mg-JWSg

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 20:54 | 6618776 Manthong
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Answer this  question to my satisfaction or I will execute you right where you are kneeling …

What is the value of Pi resolved to the last decimal point?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 20:28 | 6618686 TheEndIsNear
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I wonder if he would have shot an atheist even though we have no religion?

Also, why didn't they swarm the bastard?  Did they just stand there shitting themselves as he went around shooting each person one by one?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 23:55 | 6619307 FreedomGuy
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Because they were all probably raised with "conflict resolution" and appealing to an authority figure. They had dodge ball banned and were wrapped in bubble wrap when they went out to play.

Quick action and the use of violence, even in self-defense has been conditioned out of them. They are officially sheep waiting for the sheep dogs. That would be the militarized police. 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 20:17 | 6618655 TheEndIsNear
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Not only that, but you have to register any firearms you purchase in Oregon with the state police!

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 03:01 | 6619513 Funny Money
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False

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 20:03 | 6618584 tooktheredpill
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Australia introduced gun laws after port arthur. So what is the problem with screening to make sure the psychos dont have such easy access? Im not saying u ban guns

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:15 | 6617220 A Nanny Moose
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Too Soon?

 

We've become so apathetic, that we meet news of tragedies with sarcastic commentary, as if they were all staged. I wonder if this is yet another intended result?

Still...hilarious comment.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:20 | 6617238 Chris Dakota
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When the going gets tough Barry cooks up a false flag.

His photo will look like taken off 7-11 surveillance camera

nobody will claim to have ever known him.

His school records will be sealed.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:14 | 6617348 XitSam
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Is there something Obama need the citizens to be distracted from?  Syria? Mid-East refugees? ISIS? Putin making Obama his bitch? Falsificaton of economic data? Yellen's on-camera stroke? Immigration? No reasonable democrat candidate? 

Edit: it may not be Obama. Hillary needs a distraction from the news too. Parallel tracks of psychos being developed?

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 02:41 | 6619492 The Black Bishop
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"the shooter asked people if they were Christian. “If they said yes, then they were shot in the head,” she wrote. “If they said no, or didn’t answer, they were shot in the legs.”

 

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/01/oregon-community-college-...

 

Obama's own son...

 

Motherfucker!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 20:49 | 6618760 PN7
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Also, the shooter's name will be changed.  Hawaii is working on his new BC right now.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 22:24 | 6619081 Aloysius Snuffl...
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Since Sandy Hook (the last "false-flag" school shooting), Obama's really made gun control a number one priority and needed another incident like this to seal the deal on getting the legislation passed.  Oh wait, that's right, what am I thinking... what's actually happened is zilch and nothing will happen after this.  Put your tinfoil hat away, and quit giving Obama so much credit.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 23:58 | 6619312 FreedomGuy
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Actually, focusing on abortion, gay rights and gun control is far easier than dealing with Putin, eye-bleeding national debt and making anything at all work. 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:08 | 6617185 Fukushima Fricassee
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More laws would have stoped this.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:21 | 6617267 bob_stl
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They refused to give him a trophy for getting a "D"

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 00:00 | 6619316 FreedomGuy
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Whatever criticisms I may make of ZH, the sarcasm is absolutely the best here; grade A, premium. 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:49 | 6617435 I woke up
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Waiting for the "common sense gun legislation" speech from President Zero

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:43 | 6617736 greenskeeper carl
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i doubt youll have to wait long. I was out running errands and went into walmart for ammo today, had no idea this was happening. Glad I made that stop now....

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:06 | 6618359 sam i am
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The shooter was a white male. Catholic? Not a trerrorist, apparently.

Slavs and the Yellow Peril are “niggers, brutes and beasts”, in the eyes of Western Empire

http://thesaker.is/slavs-and-the-yellow-peril-are-niggers-brutes-and-beasts-in-the-eyes-of-western-empire/

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 23:55 | 6619305 ShakaZulu
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Loved MST3K!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:40 | 6617024 pods
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SSRI induced, again.

Probably a kid who was "depressed" and put on one or another.

Like a 3% chance they go postal.

pods

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:48 | 6617075 r3ct1f13r
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That's a whole lot of postage.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:17 | 6617237 Captain Benny
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Yay for the California/New York idiocracy yuppies!  You've ensured that an entire campus was disarmed and unable to protect themselves from bad people.  Make sure to pat yourselves on the back, because your laws stopped a bad guy from shooting people!  Oh wait? What?  He broke the law and shot them anyway?  Fuck.  That sucks.

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:56 | 6617480 The Pope
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FOREVER stamps bitchez!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:20 | 6617613 SmittyinLA
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College dealers are always armed, least in CA.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:52 | 6618548 New_Meat
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How might one observe this?

College dealers are always armed, least in CA.

but not evidently in OR.

How fucked up is OR?

- Ned

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:52 | 6617098 Bay of Pigs
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But "how" and "why" could this person obtain these "evil and rotten guns"???!!!

CNN freaking out again with their 100% anti gun and anti 2nd Amendment agenda.

Bunch of fuckan tools.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 06:11 | 6619621 Refuse-Resist
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If a USMEDIA spokesmodel gets in a tizzy about guns on the air, and no one is watching, does it matter?

Turn it off.

The ban on guns will be as effective as a ban on cocaine, heroin, mushrooms, LSD, and weed.

Works like a fucking charm.

Just make it illegal and no one will do it.

America FUCK YEAH!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:53 | 6617101 booboo
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"SSRI induced, again.

Probably a kid who was "depressed" and put on one or another"

^^^this

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:05 | 6617175 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Not necessary. They have ways to influence your thoughts. I've personally seen it.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:10 | 6617201 pods
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Please stop with the MKUltra BS.

There is verified data about kids and young adults having violent episodes while taking SSRI's, and you do not need to consult abovetopsecret to get information about it.

pods

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:21 | 6617253 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Pods, I'm am not BS'ing. I've seen it. I don't discount the SSRI claims either, they are dangerous. Pharma has made such advances it's scary.

The 100 monkey story is a fact.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth_monkey_effect

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:31 | 6617331 pods
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Pharma is not advancing anything.  

A little researched (go figure)  but well known side effect on kids and young adults of SSRI drugs is violent behavior, but it is certainly not anything being advanced.  Trust me, I am in pharma, and they are not that smart.

pods

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:48 | 6617427 El Vaquero
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Yup, that is my experience.  I remember reading a paper about a "75 gene predictor" on some medical outcome several years ago.  I don't recall what method they used for generating this 75 gene predictor, but I do recall that it relied on the euclidian distance from the mean.  Well, their data set consisted of data from a couple of hundred patients, and had tens of thousands of variables for each patient.  Given that the standard deviation of the mean is (stdDev)/(sqrt(n)), and n was at most, a couple hundred, start figuring on the chances that there will be a few dozen where a few means are, say, 0.1 standard  deviations (of the variable, not the mean) away from the actual mean?  Pretty fucking good, that's what.  Since you calculate euclidian distance in 75 dimensions the same way you do in two dimensions (X1^2 + X2^2 + ... + X75^2 = D^2,) those small variations are going to add up like a mother fucker when taken over 75 variables.  In other words, they were picking out statistical noise and calling it a pattern. 

 

This lack of understanding of the tools that they were working with is not at all uncommon. 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 17:25 | 6617917 logicalman
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Biggest advance Big Pharma has made in the last few years is the amount of control they have over FDA and the rest of government.

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 17:27 | 6617927 PTR
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I wonder if the 100th monkey would apply in this case.  

 

From my experiences, it applies more to intuitive understanding, not influence of behavioral tendencies.

 

Now, if you want to get into multidimensional realms and how SSRIs open the mind to influence by "negative" beings that are in the more etheral realms, let's talk.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:47 | 6617745 greenskeeper carl
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@ PODS that was my first thought when I heard about this. I looked over at my wife and said "wonder what SSRI he was on"

younger guy, doped to the gills on pills that alter your brain chemistry. Every time.

 

(my second thought was Im glad I bought ammo today)

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:38 | 6618483 SixIsNinE
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the SSRI fraud is in our face - how many consider that these "selective serontonin reuptake inhibitors" are drugs purported to being prescribed to people who NEED serotonin alteration.

However, the fraud is that there are never any serotonin level tests given; the Psych's simply do an oral evaluation, maybe even as short as a few minutes and write the Big Pharma scripts ...

Crap drug solutions for problems that could be addressed in other ways - the medicines that would help are illegal.   All by design, of course for our sicko-care system to be the whackjob that it is.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 06:15 | 6619626 Refuse-Resist
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I've said it before and I'll say it again:  We don't need gun control. We need nigger control.

Guns don't kill people, niggers do.

This was a pissed off wanna be jihadi nigger. 

Who when confronted with other armed men, died without wounding one of them? Long gun and 3 hand guns and he can't get a hit on the Keystone Kops?

Not one?

Smells fishy to me.

I personally don't give a fuck what Washington DC says anymore, and by extension their public relations arm (CNNMSNBCABCFOXCBSNBCNPR).

The sooner you stop listening to them the sooner they stop mattering.

The Soviet Union just called from 1990 and it agrees that when people stop complying the government no longer exists.

Fuck the USGOV with a rusty piece of rebar.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:21 | 6617265 A Nanny Moose
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Why are they depressed? Perhaps we've spent too many years making people feel all Stuart Smalley about themselves.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/freedom-learn/201509/declining-stud...

HT: Market-ticker.org

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:31 | 6617333 Overfed
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Dr. Chopper has advice for them:

 

https://youtu.be/unkIVvjZc9Y

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:44 | 6617410 Ass Burger
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Some additional info:

• shooter posted on 4chan the night before https://archive.moe/r9k/thread/22785073/

• same day recreational marijuana becomes legal in Oregon

• same small town one of the French train heroes lives in

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:12 | 6617566 PirateOfBaltimore
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Fuck. That thread is sick and filled with assholes from the deep within the bowels of the Internet.

 

"DO IT"?  Are you fucking kidding me?

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 00:29 | 6619360 ShakaZulu
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I am not a nerd, because I don't know what these hackers/geeks/internet geniuses/trolls call themselves, but I know this.  Nothing ever happens by accident or coincidence.  Although I do believe in synchronicity.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:09 | 6617545 Max Cynical
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"SSRI induced..."

Probably plays violent video games too

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:16 | 6617218 ptwnblzr
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I totally got the Hoffner knife training kit after reading that middle article you linked and it's fucking awesome, highly recommended. I wasn't brought up with any influence or experience in areas of survival/self-defense habits. The idea of "pants on:knife on", and the simple practicality of the habit, finally penetrated my awareness and it feels like one of the best investments I've made in myself lately. Thanks for the rec!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:39 | 6617018 upWising
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AMERICA!!  Jesus' Favorite Country! ©

"The Greatest Country The World Has Ever Known"  ––D. Trump

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 00:31 | 6619366 ShakaZulu
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Jesus.  The one Jew that ever loved us.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 06:17 | 6619629 Refuse-Resist
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Even if it was myth, it was the kind of myth that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 06:45 | 6619650 Mareka
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College students witnessed their teacher being shot and they dropped to the floor while the shooter re-loaded. 

Is this how we've trained our youth to respond?

I can only hope that report is not accurate.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:44 | 6617409 Dinero D. Profit
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This event raises the erectile hair on my conspiracy lobe.

 

(No live video coverage, no cell pix, and just talking heads galore.  BTW.  It is legal for .gov to engage in propaganda and psy-ops which target the US population.) 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 20:08 | 6618611 ThroxxOfVron
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Description/recent picture and detailed history, please.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:51 | 6617096 ejmoosa
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# of lives saved by the creation of Gun Free Zones: 0

# of lives lost in Gun Free Zones: Hundreds if not thousands- and climbing every day

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:34 | 6617356 A Nanny Moose
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Try tens of millions. Nazi Germany, Khmer Rouge, Red China, USSR, Ottomans.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:45 | 6617413 ejmoosa
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I was trying to stick to modern day US.   In complete agreement...

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:47 | 6617421 A Nanny Moose
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no doubt.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:49 | 6617426 ThroxxOfVron
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"Nazi Germany, Khmer Rouge, Red China, USSR, Ottomans. "

 

^^^THAT^^^

THAT is why the citizenry must NEVER relinquish firearms.

The criminals that would murder us all are not lone degenerates, pyschotics, pharma rage cases, foreign terrrorists, gang bangers or drug dealers: it is the evil scumbags that control the Government that have no respect for human life what so ever who have proven their true nature by murdering millions of innocent people time and again in blind pursuit of ideologies and/or to satisfy inhuman bloodlusts.

The populace MUST ALWAYS be armed specifically to counter the oppression and violences of the military and the police state.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:53 | 6617468 A Nanny Moose
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One death is a tragedy. One million a statistic - Uncle Joey

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:59 | 6617117 Jack Burton
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A friend and I went deep into the wilderness to fish for trout yesterday. He saw me packing my handgun and asked me if I was getting paranoid of bears. I said no, but I now always pack a pistol when I know I am vulnerable to anyone coming along with a weapon. When you meet another person deep in the woods, it is always tense at first, because you just never know what they are doing. I pack now when I go for long drives as well. Given the crazed US society, I have switched from being in favor of cops having the guns, to now favoring all sane Americans packing heat. I am packing openly now, and will seek a concealed carry permit soon.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:05 | 6617176 daveO
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Long drives? Most all of the crazies I've encountered are 'transplants' from other areas of the country. I know this because I've made complaints to the police and dug up their backgrounds on the net. FYI, the police won't do anything, anyway, but especially when the 'crazy' is one of their relatives(personal experience). You should carry every time you leave home. Forget illegal 'tracking' permits.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:11 | 6617204 El Vaquero
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Fact: The crazies that I've encountered that I thought I might have to shoot were A) next to nice neighborhoods and B) not that far away from my house. 

 

I carry a pistol when I put my pants on in the morning. 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 17:57 | 6618057 PTR
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Said in a concealed weapon class by the instructor:

"I carry inside my house.  If someone comes through the door, I'm not going to have time to go to the closet, unlock the safe and pull out my firearm."

 

It's being mindful of odds.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 06:21 | 6619631 Refuse-Resist
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My old man left a loaded firearm in every room of the house for similar reasons.

He was a USBP and former military. He said to me: If a guy kicks in the door and I'm sitting in this recliner, will I have time to get to the  gun cabinet? I said no.

He said that's why this .357 is in the side pocket of my Lazyboy, that's why the 38 is in the kitchen in the spice cabinet, and why there's a 12 gauge next to my bed.

I said "Oh I get it".

What good is it if you can't use it?

I follow the same school. And somehow nobody's been shot in this house despite the alarming hazard (LOL) of loaded firearms.

Amazing I tell you. Just fucking amazing!

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