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Mid-East Coup: As Russia Pounds Militant Targets, Iran Readies Ground Invasions While Saudis Panic
Back in June, the commander of Iran’s Quds Force, Qasem Soleimaini, visited a town north of Latakia on the frontlines of Syria’s protracted civil war. Following that visit, he promised that Tehran and Damascus were set to unveil a new strategy that would “surprise the world.”
Just a little over a month later, Soleimani - in violation of a UN travel ban - visited Russia and held meetings with The Kremlin. The Pentagon now says those meetings were “very important” in accelerating the timetable for Russia’s involvement in Syria. The General allegedly made another visit to Moscow in September.
The timeline here is no coincidence. Iran has long provided covert and overt support to the Assad regime via financial transfers, logistical support from the Quds, and via the involvement of Hezbollah in the Assad government’s fight to regain control of the country.
As we’ve documented extensively over the past several weeks, what appears to have happened here is that Iran, unable to simply invade Syria in support of Assad (because doing so would obviously be a disaster in terms of preserving the optics around the P5+1 nuclear deal), turned to Moscow which has in the past used Russia’s Security Council veto to block the referral of the war in Syria to the Hague and which is a known ally of both Tehran and Damascus.
While it’s unclear exactly what the pitch was to Putin, Russia clearly saw an opportunity to advance The Kremlin’s geopolitical agenda at a key time in history. Moscow is keen to put on a brave face amid the most contentious standoff with the West since the Cold War (as a result of the conflict in Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea) and amid the related effort to preserve Gazprom’s market share in Europe.
In short, Putin looks to have viewed this as the ultimate geopolitical win-win. That is, Russia gets to i) expand its influence in the Middle East in defiance of Washington and its allies, a move that also helps to protect Russian energy interests and preserves the Mediterranean port at Tartus, and ii) support its allies in Tehran and Damascus thus preserving the counterbalance to the US-Saudi-Qatar alliance.
Meanwhile, Iran gets to enjoy the support of the Russian military juggernaut on the way to protecting the delicate regional nexus that is the source of Tehran’s Mid-East influence. It is absolutely critical for Iran to keep Assad in power, as the loss of Syria to the West would effectively cut the supply line between Iran and Hezbollah.
The same dynamic is playing out in Iraq. That is, Iran is fighting ISIS via various Shiite militias just as it’s fighting the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen via the Shia Houthis. It is thus extremely significant that Baghdad has agreed to share intelligence with Syria and Russia, as that effectively means the Iran-backed Shiite militias battling for control of Iraq will enjoy the support of the Russian military.
What should be obvious here is that this is a coordinated plan.
The Kremlin has effectively agreed to bring the might of the Russian air force to bear on Assad’s opponents in Syria and on Sunni militants in Iraq in support of Iranian ground troops and because the US and its allies have failed so miserably in terms of fielding anti-Assad rebels who don't turn out to be extremists, Putin gets to pitch the whole thing as a "war on terror." It would be difficult to design a more elegant power play.
If you think that’s far-fetched, consider the following just out from Reuters:
Hundreds of Iranian troops have arrived in Syria in the last 10 days and will soon join government forces and their Lebanese Hezbollah allies in a major ground offensive backed by Russian air strikes, two Lebanese sources told Reuters.
"The (Russian) air strikes will in the near future be accompanied by ground advances by the Syrian army and its allies," said one of the sources familiar with political and military developments in the conflict.
"It is possible that the coming land operations will be focused in the Idlib and Hama countryside," the source added.
The two sources said the operation would be aimed at recapturing territory lost by President Bashar al-Assad's government to rebels.
It points to an emerging military alliance between Russia and Assad's other main allies - Iran and Hezbollah - focused on recapturing areas of northwestern Syria that were seized by insurgents in rapid advances earlier this year.
"The vanguard of Iranian ground forces began arriving in Syria: soldiers and officers specifically to participate in this battle. They are not advisors ... we mean hundreds with equipment and weapons. They will be followed by more," the second source said. Iraqis would also take part in the operation, the source said.
And then consider this, also just out (via Reuters):
The Russian Foreign Ministry said on Thursday it would consider any request from the Iraqi government to conduct air strikes against Islamic State inside Iraq, but said it had not yet received such an appeal, the RIA Novosti news agency reported.
It cited the foreign ministry as saying it would evaluate the "political and military" logic of such a move if a request was forthcoming.
Finally, to drive the point home and further confirm the veracity of the thesis outlined above, here’s Saudi Arabia panicking at the prospect that Russia’s presence is set to completely disrupt the Mid-East BOP (via Reuters, yet again):
Saudi Arabia, a leading foe of President Bashar al-Assad, demanded his ally Russia end its raids on Syria, saying the strikes had caused civilian casualties while failing to target the hardline Islamic State militants Moscow says it opposes.
In remarks at the United Nations in New York, a senior Saudi diplomat suggested both Russia and Assad's other main ally Iran could not claim to fight Islamic State "terrorism" at the same time as supporting the "terrorism" of the Syrian authorities.
Saudi ambassador Abdallah Al-Mouallimi expressed "profound concern regarding the military operations which
Russian forces have carried out in Homs and Hama today, places where ISIS forces are not present. These attacks led to a number of innocent victims. We demand it stop immediately and not recur."
"As for those countries that have claimed recently to join in the fight against ISIS terrorism, they can’t do that at the same time as they support the terrorism of the Syrian regime and its terrorist foreign allies like Hezbollah and the Quds Force and other terrorist sectarian groups," he added in comments broadcast by Saudi-owned al-Arabiya television.
ISIS is a common acronym for Islamic State, also known as ISIL. Lebanon's Hezbollah Shi'ite militia openly fights on behalf of Assad's government, and the Quds Force, part of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards, is also widely believed to be aiding Damascus.
It would be difficult to overstate the significance of what appears to be going on here. This is nothing short of a Middle Eastern coup, as Iran looks to displace Saudi Arabia as the regional power broker and as Russia looks to supplant the US as the superpower puppet master.
Do not expect Saudi Arabia and Israel to remain on the sidelines here.
If Russia ends up bolstering Iran's position in Syria (by expanding Hezbollah's influence and capabilities) and if the Russian air force effectively takes control of Iraq thus allowing Iran to exert a greater influence over the government in Baghdad, the fragile balance of power that has existed in the region will be turned on its head and in the event this plays out, one should not expect Washington, Riyadh, Jerusalem, and London to simply go gentle into that good night.
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"...me say war." - Bob Marley
Shit's starting to get real. Shia's and Sunni's squaring off, with their big dumb bully friends on each team.
US Propaganda at its Best.
"These attacks led to a number of innocent victims. We demand it stop immediately and not recur."
If I was Russia, I'd say to the Saudis, "How about you stop bombing weddings in Yemen…and then we'll talk".
If I was Russia, I'd say to the Saudis, "You're next on the list."
Fuck you Bibi! Fuck you Obama! Payback is gonna be a huge bitch.
Wonder what insurance costs for gas pipelines these days?
I dont get it; If russians want to kill arabs, how does this affect me in my remote little corner of america?
You know Mohamed's falaffel stand down the corner? You think that the Rooski Commie Rat Bastards aren't gonna sleep until it's been killed off either, putting you and your wife, children and puppy dog's freedoms at risk? Who the fuck is the Red Hoard to tell you that you can't like flaffels?
"This means war!"
-Groucho Marx
Congratulations to Russia and Iran to standing up, I hope their strategy will work.
Why can Saudi-Arabia with the approval of the western powers bomb a foreign country, Jemen, without Jemen having attacked Saudi? Of course Saudi claims they do it at the request of the president Hadi of Jemen who fled to Saudi. If that is accepted by western powers, then how would those western powers have reacted if Russia would have attacked and bombed the Ukraine, at the request of the democratically elected president Yanukovich who fled to Russia?
I think the house of Saud is setting itself up for real bad long-term Karma or, if you prefer, the Saudis create a lot of enemies for themselves by destroying the people and their neighboring country of Jemen. Reminds me of why Americans are often times not liked in many parts of the world.
Americans often claim that Assad is a Tyrant, a Murderer and a Dictator and that's why he must go. Why does the US not call the House of Saud by the same names and try to overthrow them? I guess because the House of Saud is an obedient servant of the US, and Assad is cooperating with a different power - Russia.
The western mainstream media treats the Saudi atrocities in Jemen as a sideshow, while blowing up the story about Assad and demonizing him. What's the alternative to Assad?
Let's see how other countries, Irak and Lybia, with worse Tyrants - Saddam Hussein and Ghaddafi have “developed”, thanks to western intervention.
In addition, the US is always talking about the evil Iranians, and how they took American hostages back in 1979. You don't hear much about the fact that the US staged a coup in 1953, deposed the democratically elected president Mossadegh and installed the Shah, who, just like the House of Saud became a servant for US interests. After the Iranians were finally able to get rid of the Shah who had been in power for over 25 years they understandably did not have much love left for the US. The pendulum went to the other side.
If you look at all these facts in context, it's easy to see the hypocrisy of the US and it's western “allies”.
10 Countries bombing the crap outta Syria. In proxy-war terms, this is World Proxy-War III.
There is a lot of crap going down that does not need to go down thanks to the cabal of evil that is calling the shots in the west.
This is the tidbit that underscores how serious this is getting:
PUTIN DRAFTS 150,000
Somehow I wonder if Putin isn't overplaying his hand by conscripting soldiers. He's not unversally popular because he attacks arabs, he's universally popular because he presented a strong Russia. Emboldening Assad, at the expense of Russian blood, doesn't accomplish that. In fact, As major powers in the world go, Russia isn't exactly high in the population department.
Russia has conscription, unlike the US. This order get signed by Putin (and Medyedev (or however you spell it)) twice a year.
This is unrelated.
The "DONALD" Will Be Elected And He will scrap ALL This Bullshit uSA Policy.
... And HE Let's Russia Clean Up Syria/ISIS and all The MASS refugees can return home to live in PEACE in the Beautiful Sandy Deserts...
Remind me ...
WTF are we doing in Syria ?!
Poor little John McCain. All these prospects for war.
If your erection lasts more than 4 weeks, please seek medical attention.
Washington Finally Meets Its Match In Syria: ISIS — Made In The USA
http://themillenniumreport.com/2015/10/washington-finally-meets-its-matc...
Washington don't care. They say fuck the EU anyways!
It sounds like -- we are covertly supporing ISIS while pretending to attack them, and getting huffy because Putin is really attacking them. Or wandering around like a headless chicken. Or just wasting money. Not sure.
All of the above.
WTF are we doing in Syria ?!
counting grains of sand....?
<< WTF are we doing in Syria ?! >>
Lining MIC pockets with gold.
US trying to be way too clever, triangulating all sides and as a result getting zero outcome. We gave the bloodthirsty tyrants in Egypt billions for decades, then we started Arab Spring, Muslim Brotherhood got elected so we said we'd support them. Oops then we changed our minds and decided to suport the bloodthirsty generals again, so now both sides hate us.
We should just pick a side, Sunni/Saudi/Israel or Shi'a/Iran/Russia. That's what we did with Saddam versus the Ayatollah, worked a charm for a decade as they slaughtered each other and we made serious coin selling arms and gas etc.
Or I have a better idea: just bring the troops home. Have them build roads and bridges and hospitals here for a change. Peace dividend, Yankee go home. It's not like they won't sell us the oil no matter what flag they fly. Fat chance of that given the dumb and dumberer war-monger pres candidates we have, each trying to outdo each other on how much new war they want
http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00maplinks/overview/sunnish...
From the looks of this map the Shia better pack a big friggin' lunch.
Dude, your map is kind of bs. Yes the Shia populated areas are correctly identified, but lots, most of what's shown as Sunni, is completely uninhabited. For example, most of SA is known as the Rub' al Khali, the EMPTY quarter. Same goes for the enormous Sahara Desert. You are comparing Shia populated areas to Sunni grains of sand.
Russians "pound enemy positions?" How many fighters do they have? Last I heard it was five. It takes more than five to "pound" an enemy.
"Last I heard it was five. It takes more than five to "pound" an enemy. "
Yeh. BUT those five are $100 million assets. They have been trained to be like superhuman Captain America and any one of those five could lick all the Russkis, Iranians, SAA etc etc.
Dude: A study conducted by the Pew Research Center in 2010 and released January 2011 found that there are
1.62 billion Muslims around the world, and it is estimated over 75–90% are Sunni.
Sunni Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunni_Islam
Don't forget the Zio/Jewish/Bankster masters who are at the centre of this shitfight. The scum from DC are just the paid lackeys - the corruption spin off is just a symptom, not the cause.
and then contributing a portion to the red and blue team to keep the war machine engaged.
guessing moar fertile grounds await in africa, where the mic can go in and fuck up 4 moar countries til china get its' shorts ina bundle...
"Remind me ... WTF are we doing in Syria ?!"
Trying to profit from destruction and keep control on the US civilian population through fear of boogeyman terrorists.
Just remember, when they fail abroad, they will start chaos at home.
Lock and load my fellow countrymen... eyes open.
Good point. When they fall /fail abroad, they will start chaos at home. Tic toc tic toc.
"Remind me ...
WTF are we doing in Syria ?!"
Bringing democracy, peace and prosperity to the people of Syria so they can enjoy a high standard of living.
Damned Syrians ingrates running away from progressive ISIS democracy.
The will of your Jewish masters, Son of Loki...the will of your Jewish masters.
@BaBaBouy
If you're serious with this comment, you ascribe far too much power for independent action to the person who holds the office of president. Regardless of what he might want (which I genuinely have no idea), the US bureaucracy, both government and corporate, is now invested in this shit. Hard to reverse.
If "The Donald" actually got elected, the first thing he'd do is to sweep that wombat off his head with a theatrical flourish, and bow and scrape before Bibi & The Zionists.
FACT.
+1. Because they do own Donalds ass!
Even JP Morgan only owned 17%. Of his investment bank because Rothchild owned the rest (and JP Morgans ass).
FACT
Let's hope not.
Nevertheless, if "Donald" gets the nerve to stand up to Zionists he might go down in history like JFK.
Hope is NOT a strategy.
It is usually done in desperation.
Nevertheless, if "Donald" gets the nerve to stand up to Zionists he might go down in history like JFK.
Or, sadly, just down.
If Russia had NFL it would not need conscription.
And.. Don't Ask where the USD Fiats Paper is heading...
"Putin gets to pitch the whole thing as a "war on terror."
The problem with this strategy is that Putin does not control the Western mainstream brainwash media. The only thing the US (and IS!) now need to do is wait for a rogue (or planted!) bomb to go off in a 'civilian' neighbourhood, and then the US (and their European vassals) will be able to cry crocodile tears about "civilian casualties."
Sorry, but with the relentless brainwashing in the western media (and it seems like they kicked it up a few notches recently in the wake of this IS infiltration under the guise of "refugeees"), unfortunately I don't see how this can play out favourably for Putin or Russia.
So many civillians have been killed by Team USA, that they've taken the edge off the story. At the same time thinking people don't bother with the MSM. Can't stop this Juggernaught.
Thinking people? I didn't know there were any left in the USSA. Try talking about Syria to people....you'll get your eyes opened as to how truly fucking stupid most are.
You seem to think that 1) Putin gives a rat's ass about what the Russian people think of him (he doesn't), and 2) that the Russian people are pussies like we are in the West (they aren't).
A friend's father fought for the Wehrmacht on the Russian front. He described the situation: "We had machine gun nests, two guns, five men. The Russians would attack with shovels, sticks, and a few pistols. Hundreds would be mowed down b the bullets, but they kept coming and coming until the bodies were piled up high enough that someone could get close enough to lob a grenade ovr top." The Russians will grit their teeth, and do what needs to be done. The only reaon they left Afghanistan was it had no resources except smack, and they graciously decided that the West could have all of it (distributed by the CIA, probably).
You might not remember that the Chechen muslims killed all the kids at an elementary school not so many years ago. I doubt the average Russian has any sympathy for ISIS in particular and Muslims in general, and because they're not pussies cowering for fear of what someone might say on Facebook or Twitter, they can and will support Putin.
yeah that cyber bullying can really hurt lmao, oh gosh you hurt my delicate feelings
FrankDrakman: What you left out of the WW II narrative was that Russian officers would shoot the conscripts on the spot if they did not follow orders and attack with sticks and shovels. Russian conscripts to this day are mostly in a no-win situation.
Having been one, I can assure you that ALL conscripts everywhere are in a no-win situation.
But it is still better than allowing your country to be "defended" by an "all volunteer" force, which is just another word for mercenaries.
Ending the draft has turned out to be a total disaster for America, allowing the MIC and political scum to plunge us into unending war. If Americans were getting drafted and forced to participate in all this bullshit the vast majority of it would never have happened. The wars we did fight, like Afghanistan, would have ended quickly, or the college campuses and city streets would have exploded with angry demonstrators.
First they made sure a cracker living in Alabama had no other economic option other than selling Hillbilly heroin, working at McDonalds, or enlisting
Um, where the fuck were you during Bush's tener? College campuses and city streets did explode with angry demonstrators.
Way too few and far inbetween in America..during Bush's tenure.
You had well over ninety percent of America backing those wars.
Most riots were on University Campuses and the streets of Foreign Nations.
I was in the street, often with tens of thousands of others. Looking back it didn't seem to accomplish much.
Lol
That lasted 30 seconds after Obama was elected.
Then it became a "good war".
Well, Junior, I don't reckon you know what an explosion looks like.
https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=Chicago+riots+60%27s+videos&ei=UTF...
https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=Kent+State+shooting+videos&ei=UTF-...
Just a couple of the more famous examples, but virtually every College Campus had protests, and many turned violent in some degree. The demonstrations were an almost daily occurrence on many campuses and cities....and this was on top of the preceding civil rights demonstrations.
The difference is skin in the game. There was no draft in the Bush era, hence no risk to youth in general. All that was asked of your generation was to go shopping.
"... Russian officers would shoot the conscripts on the spot..."
Da, Tovarich, was also job of KGB.
The Russians realize correctly, that the Zionist led West is gunning for them. Fight ISIL in Syria with a strong ally, or fight them in Russia after ther're finished bringing" Freedom and Democracy, American style," to the mid East. How can the West be seen supporting "moderate cannabilistic Jihadi terrorists"? Even the Zionist controled puppet press will have to do literary contortions to put the lip stick on this pig. It's certain to provide side splitting humour to read what they'll have to say to keep their jobs!
PS
My Uncle Wilhelm served on the Russian front. The five years spent, literaly, in a salt mine in Siberia took years off his life. To pursue War as National Policy as the Wolfoblitz Doctine advocates, is a certain reciepy for National ruin, but that's seems to be what the Zionists want.
"To pursue War as National Policy as the Wolfoblitz Doctine advocates, is a certain reciepy for National ruin, but that's seems to be what the Zionists want"
That's what guys advocate for when they never had to serve anywhere but as Head Know-It-All on the Dingus Committee (like Wolfowitz, Ass carter, etc)
conscripts are for ukraine
Da, expedition no place for newbie
This is regular order for the autumn concripting - happens each year and has nothing to do with Syria or Uraine or whatever. About the same number of conscripts finishes the military service and goes home at the same time.
If true, I doubt they will be going to fight in Syria. More likely they will be used to beef up homeland security. The vengeful Zio-axis will try to foment terrorism in and around Russia and also turn up the heat in Ukraine.
"PUTIN DRAFTS 150,000" -- interesting, perhaps we should draft every fucking prisoner in our penal system?
"win-win"
Funny you should say that. The British Empire used to do that - and conqured the world with them. Mind you, their prison population wasn't black, so I don't know how that would pan out...
Daily Mail BS.
Putin has requested permission from the Duma to use Russian air power abroad. This permission has been granted. There is no obvious need for ground troops. He made three specific points: i) Russia supports Syria in its legal fight against terrrorists ii) that support will take the form of air support, not ground troops iii) the support will be time limited, for the duration of the Syrian army's action against the terrorists.
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/www.e-news.su/in-russia/78005-za...
Who do you believe? Putin or lying Western BS artists?
No Fu'king Shi-ite. That is some article... Thanks for the link...
I think.
Syria War Propaganda? Aid Groups Use Same Photo to Blame Wounded Child on Assad Then Russia
Yes, though of course Russian agents may have deliberately set up a twitter account and reused that earlier photo knowing it would be discovered, so it would make people doubt any other pictures of civilians harmed by these airstrikes. Pretty sure this is what Mossad did with pictures of hurt Palestinians.
We're not the only ones to start lying our asses off the moment the bombs start flying.
"I hope their strategy will work."
If an increase in oil prices triggered by a wide spread Middle East war = Working. Russia and Iran might like that. Saudi's too! Depending on how long they are around for.......
WW III! Who is that going to work for? The cartels as usual.
WW III is underway.
I don't think the Saudi regime is long for this world, the sand is running out for them.
Alas, for the passing of another Great House of the world's nobility.
Just kidding. The Sunni "royals" can all go back to fucking goats behind the date palms, like their grandfathers.
The US allies are there only because they are on the "payroll". As the fiat dollar dries up and the bribes are reduced many of the fair weather allies will suddenly awaken to a new reality and seek alternate sugar teat alliances that are better suited to their well being. Case, in point would be the US sponsored attacks that Europe bought into against Russia in the name of support (conquest) for the freedom (usurption) of Ukraine. Also, Russia according to western media has collapsed (suffered) financially due to sanctions and can barely pay for Putin's plane fare to the United Nations let alone put boots on the ground in Syria to fight rebels (proxy armies). The real card is yet to be played. If SA, Israel, London and Europe decide (are told)to intervene militarily against Russia then the gas supply for the upcoming winter could be turned down (off), at least for Europe. The options seem endless for the new leader of the "free world"....Vladimir Putin?
Yes the Hypocrisy is overwhelming. Thaks to the Wests MSM and the sheeple who believe anything their msm tells them because it must be true...the Us .Gov and msm would never ever lie to them...
The US can bomb and drone anyone any where and kill innocents because it is in the name of US supremacy...Even Obutthead states he's real good at killing people....
How can you have citizens injail for murder when your "US" .gov kills innocent people all the time with impunity ... two sets of laws...
It affect us because Israel is the only thing that matters in this world,
and if Israel is not happy the world must be at war.
God's chosen people say it's so, and therefor more Goyim children must die.
I hope Syria with Iran and Russia's help takes the Golan back.
This is pretty interesting. Netanyaho telling the UN how bad the Iran deal is, and they're not impressed.
Netanyahu glares at U.N. for 45 seconds after berating its silence on Iran threat to Israelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YllqrXMkDWo&feature=youtu.be
100 Billion to Iran for "infrastructure" LOL. A good chunk will go to Quds and Hezbollah so they can spread the "Religion of Peace". Maybe that's why this is happening?
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/hhs-boosting-nations-stockpi...
BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Tears!!!!!!
45 seconds silence? Wow that must have taxed his ego. I would welcome an extended performace. How about schtum for the rest of you life, you lying Zionist scumbag.
The US pos congress at its finest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Txrcpl49GQ
the expansion of israel requires water
rumor has it there is water on Mars
relocate israel to Mars
problems solved
mt paul, you are on to something there...
That is the best suggestion for solving the Israel issue I have heard to date.
http://youtu.be/0gVLv5eg4Xg
If you have been looking at the map of the russki' bombing, it has been at Homs, among other locations. Palestinians used to hang around Homs, no one liked them then either. So Assad pere ringed the city with grunts and artillery and started to blast away. No one internationally complained because no one likes Palestinians. What were the casualties? 75k or so. Palestinians agreed to leave. I misremember whether Jordan kicked them out before or after. But no one likes Palestinians. Well, except KGB and USSR, who used Palestinians as Agents Provacateurs, used Egypt, and etc.
If you wanna' award reddiez, please do and please tell me who likes Palestinians at the same time.
And this is just about the Palz, that begat Arrafat (another Nobel Peace Prize Winnah!!!) and not about any other complicit group--many! We can do that separately s'il vous plait.
- Ned
If number of civilians killed = "no one likes xyz", please remind me how many Jews have been killed over the centuries, and tell us if you think that means the same thing.
Thought not.
No, that won't work. No good being "Chosen" if there isn't any non "Chosen" to push around.
My Spidey sense is tingling.
What if after Syria And Iraq, the Russians put one of these bases in, lets say......Palestine.....
not out of the question, see above.
Hey Dave; it doesn't. CNN/FOX News will tell you it does but it's a big fat lie. It's all about Gas/Oil Pipelines and propping-up the Zombie Dollar. It always has been, always will be.
Ok, I knew it would be mentioned sometime: oil/gas
OK I am in UK, but I am sure I have read, possibly even here, that, thanks to Fracking, America is now Oil and Gas self-sufficient.
So why does it care a jot for The ME? Is it Isreal and nothing else?
Fracking is the one way I think the UK could reach such independance, but, you know, the Greens.
Fracking cost a lot more than 45 to 50 FIAT Dollars. A lot more. Those dumb asses that invested in fracking infrastructure are losing their collective asses. Now, thos who hedged oil at say 95 FIAT dollars a barrel are ok. Except the Wall Street Bankers who wrote the contracts on those hedges. They are losing Their Collective asses. Fracking is Not the answer to energy independence. Oil price has collapsed because demand has collapsed. They'll never tell you that. Western Central Banks are running-up their balance sheets propping up the markets, lining the pockets of Wall Street Insiders and keeping the Middle East in a Quagmire so the Defense Industry can make money while suppressing Russia/China Oil/Currency plans. A lot of moving parts here and it's hard to crasp. I don't claim to know/understand all of it either. I do know that Precious metals will someday soon Rule the day and FIAT Paper Assets will fail.
Don't believe the cost analysis argument.
It's not about costs. It's about world politic. If the US was truly sovereign and wanted a higher price for oil so that their fracking would be viable they would simply blow up SA.
This is a Jewish political thing.
Not about oil.
It is CONTROL
of gas and oil resources/pipelines to hamstring Russia and contain China,
AND to prop up the global petrodollar racket.
Full spectrum dominance in Pentagon lingo.
It has little to nothing to do with supplying gas and oil for the USA.
"OK I am in UK, but I am sure I have read, possibly even here, that, thanks to Fracking, America is now Oil and Gas self-sufficient."
Uh, no. The US imports several million barrels of oil per day. We're not even close on the crude oil front.
OK I am in UK, but I am sure I have read, possibly even here, that, thanks to Fracking, America is now Oil and Gas self-sufficient.
So why does it care a jot for The ME?
Let's say the US really were self-sufficient (it's not, but let's pretend).
Let's say the dictators, sorry monarchies, in Saudi, Kuwait, Qatar, etc, are no longer propped up by the US (and the UK), the people revolt, and they elect politicians who are beholden to the will of their Islamic, Israel-hating, US-hating populaces.
What do you think happens to the petrodollar?
Maintaining MENA hegemony isn't a luxury so the US can get cheap oil. It's about the absolute survival of the US, which would (will?) suffer economic catastrophe if/when the USD loses reserve status, and all those dollars fly home seeking value in the one place the US government can still enforce its brand of fiat.
The UK had a similar problem after WWII as the USD continued to supplant GBP as WRC.
Sorry Big Jim, but what you are really saying is that the US is beholden to Isreali interests in order to stop a financial, then economic meltdown.
This means the US doesn't have a MENA problem.
It has a Zio/Jewish/Bankster problem.
Dealing with anything else - aka Russia, China, Oil, MENA, BRICS etc etc is just chasing the tail.
The cure lies in toppling the Zio banksters altogether, not dealing with the symptoms of having to serve them.
this is not a game of nations, the elites are running a theater here, and lies and betrayal are the standard procedures.
yes, the pressure on israel to attack iran only inceases. The false flag dominoes will fall from there, of course, you need to piss off the WHOLE muslim world, which, if you think in the right twisted way, you can find the way it really could be done. Then, you are well on your armegeddon way.
it could affect all of us because o-shit-for-brains has been allowing who knows how many illegal invaders to enter our country for years now. There could be sympathetic "sleeper cell" types all over America just waiting for the "go" order to start shit with us in all kinds of ways across the country. Look at what's happening in Europe overtly right now. Just think if that kind of shit or even worse started happening across America.
The gov-scum would use a situation like that and violent attacks as the perfect crisis excuse to clamp down on all American citizens rights and freedoms. And things are currently unstable enough already between the population and the city police forces. Just wait until a gov-scum crack-down occurs "in the name of freedom and protection" from the terrorists that the gov-scum created and allowed to walk through the front and back doors in the first place.
And if we resist tyrannical gov-scum policies and draconian laws, then they crack down on us and call us "domestic terrorists".
just a theory. I'm sure they really do mean us all good will and friendship. Nothing to worry about at all, I'm sure. Everyone should just go back to sleep and wait for the next episode of the Kardashitards to start.
Nice to see Russia and Iran involved in a Mid-East war. Better them than us. Go for it. The next 9/11 will be in Moscow.
How does our vice president bring down US buildings in Red Square?
He has a million gaffes just waiting behind the firewall for his introduction to the actual race.
- Ned
Mossad/Rothschild 911 in Russia no doubt.
If the Mossad or CIA try to pull off another 9/11, this time in Moscow, then Russia's response would be severe. They have made the decision that this is war is ON with Putin as their leader and will be fought to either complete victory or total defeat. They finally identified our leaders as representing the new/old Fascists, i.e., the inheritors of the old fascist doctrine of Hitler, Churchiil,..etc of world domination by a superior ethnic group or ruling class. Russia with Iran's help, would decide to launch attacks on the Gulf states using proxies. I would expect oil tankers to start being sunk in the Gulf and the Saudi Monarchy to fall. The US forces would be in the crossfire and would have to evacuate or begin fighting Russian and Iranian proxies who would be armed with advanced offensive (but mainly) defensive missles as the targets presented to the proxies to hit, such as tanks, aircraft, and ships are so numerous in the ME and completely vulnerable.
I would expect conscription of healthy unemployed males in the US and male immigrants. This would be met with mass protests resuling in martial law, with a suspension in voting
Excellent sarc there.
But to answer the question...
Your ability to buy cheap stuff from Wal-Mart depends on the ability of the US to be able to print money, and force other countries to accept it. This acceptance hinges on an agreement by the Saudis to only accept US dollars for their oil, among other countries agreeing to do the same with their commodities.
If we can't protect the Saudis, they will turn to whoever the biggest, baddest player on the block is, all those dollars sent overseas will come back home since no one needs them any more, and since 2/3rds of the dollars are overseas, I would suspect a minimum tripling of the price of everything.
Also, this isn't the first such deal to go down. With much less fanfare China has entered multiple deals with other Asian nations to trade in local currencies instead of dollars, Iran has been trading gold for oil, etc. Since we're experiencing deflation I think now is an excellent time to stock up on essentials if you haven't done so already.
Bullshit.
Bring the dollars home and with them ALL of the jobs.
Prices might triple? Go look at housing, medical and educational expenses, etc. over the last 30 years and tell me that they haven't tripled or more while wages froze.
Paying to rebuild and manufacture everything domestically will mean that wages will have to triple or more as well resulting in a resurgent prosperous middle class.
Bring all the fucking money and the jobs/wages home.
Cease the govenment sponsorship of debt money slavery: dissolve the FED cartel and emit the currency debt free.
Shutter the IRS.
Fuck the foreigners and the globalists: transnational banksters and wage arbitrageurs, chicoms, chosenites, socialists, child fuckers, slave mongers, religious oligarchs, war lords, drug lords, royalty and dictators: fuck them ALL.
I was listening to NPR interview some administrator for the building of new schools and the serious problems they now have because they only budgeted for 6%/year inflation the last several years when in fact they got hit last your alone with a 44% increase construction !
I could not beleive the host did not question him about that in light of the Bernanke 0% COLA the last 8 years.
It amazes me how biased these left wing "progressives" are in their failure to ask tough questions when it suits them not to.
NPR IS Pravda
Da
Actually, NPR is part of the Ministry of Truth. To get by as an American without having the cognitive dissonance detectors triggering constantly requires
1) having a *really* short attention span
2) being able to completely ignore facts which cause inconsistencies in the narrative pushed by the Deep State.
It took awhile, but so far the Deep State has achieved 1) and 2) handily. The State in Nineteen Eighty Four achieved the same thing by getting the slaves to believe 2+2=5 at the same time they believe 2+2=4
"It amazes me how biased these left wing "progressives" are in their failure to ask tough questions when it suits them not to." -- Above
So this person really thinks that NPR has any left wing "progressive" hosts? Actually they only have neocon hosts. And what would some "administrator for the building of new schools" know about the Bernanke 0% COLA?
Probably most everybody knows that the so-called "US economy" makes no sense. 44% inflation for building new schools? It's another possibility. It seems to me that they really need less schools, since they seem to just waste the kid's time anyway.
bluez:
I do get it now, the subtle shift in definition of "neocon." I've been wondering about the old definition of "neocon" -- a former leftist who "saw the light" and became a hard-core anti-anti-American proponent. Horowitz comes to mind.
But I never imagined that NPR was neo-Con, and since you reveal this to me, I also hate Neo-Cons.
The things that I learn on this site are the reason that I hang around, WOW!
- Ned
NPR is total shit but "building schools" is another scam for the marxist running pubic edukayshun to skim billions. They do these weird elaborate designs with Class A office building finishes and probably luxurious offices for the endless administrators at the school.
Edukayshun is a scam and the grants and phony research at universities is another scam probably in the $800 billions a year range.
Education.
Civil service.
Healthcare.
Finance.
Real estate.
Insurance.
Defense contractors.
Entertainment.
Pharmaceuticals.
Media.
The prospect of your kids earning an "honest living" in the United State of America is, for practical purposes, non-existent.
Americans' futures seem to lie with organic farming, petty crime, or some sort of religious hustle.
Hey they can sell "stuff" on eBay?
It doesn't amaze me. The semi intelligent ones are just plain corrupt, the vast bulk of them are simply completely brain dead.
Throxie - run for President - you will clean up on the vote, and have millions back you up for The Great House Cleaning, American Style.
First thing an actual US President would do would be to ask the American People to descend on DC and the Fed and kill all involved.
Anything less is treason.
Bullshit.
Bring the dollars home and with them ALL of the jobs.
Lulz, the currency will come home, but the capital it currently represents will flow out IN EQUAL MEASURE.
How do you think the US runs a trade deficit, year after year after year? Because the rest of the world needs our paper. How long have you been on this site? Have you learnt NOTHING?
Prices may have tripled over the last 30 years. Wait til they triple of the space of three months IF the world no longer needs our paper.
You think the US will rise again, after it's sent its manufacturing overseas? After its economy is distorted by a decade of ZIRP and financialization? After its regulations make it impossibly expensive to hire manufacturing labour? After decades of Statist brainwashing has reduced the entrepreneurial spirit to roughly the level of Europe?
You have no idea, have you? The US made a fortune during the second world war (getting the rest of the world's greatest technology free via Tizard and Paperclip in the process) and then slowly squandered its capital with decades of warmongering and increasing socialism, losing its competitive edge because the rest of the world faced the headwinds of USD flooding their economies and had to outcompete the Americans to survive. Look around you. The US has been slowly gutted by the venality of its politicians, financiers and an electorate who keep putting the same criminals into power, election after election after election.
Yeah, maybe if there's a revolution, and most of the FSA die off, the US might wallow back to the surface if the remainder decorate lamposts with bankers and their pawns. Maybe 1% of the current population understand this, so it ain't gonna happen for a long, LONG time.
well said
they export oil
we export inflation
and we both piss off a lot of people
and were not the only kids on the block with guns
so it's all coming to an end
If such were the case, would not all debt disappear too? High inflation is the friend of mortgage and creditcard holders. OK, the wage rises are always after the interest increase, but high inflation, to catch up with the missing years, would be a good thing, wouldn't it?
Look up the Gibson paradox; wages (price level) and real interest rages track vary together. It's called a paradox because real rates are observed to track the price level and not the change of the price level. This can be oberved in large time scales such as the Kondratieff long wave cycle. When real rates are positive, that indicates capital is earning a profit so there is a demand for borrowing (thus nominal rates are greater than inflation because everyone wants to borrow) and workes will be hired so wages rise. But when real rates are negative, then capital is unproductive (thus nominal rates are less than inflaton as no one wants to borrow) and workers will be let go and wages fall.
A mild inflation is good for the young (who can work but have no savings) but not the for the old (who have savings but cannot work) but hyperinflation destroys societies and turns them into dog eat dog nightmares. The huge WWI German war debt was paid off but it was at the expense of elderly Germans who ended up starving.
When interest rates are as low in a deflation as they are now, carrying debt is easy and there debts can rise endelssly under some circumstances (e.g, the country is a net creditor). But countries that are net debtors can be subject to sudden large inflows of their currency from foreign creditors if they feel the country is engagin in risky behavior (staring wars). This makes the foreign holders nervous because the governent of a country at war will print, print, print to survive and prices of labor rises due to shortages of manpower. In a deflationary enviornment such as we are in, the Reserve can soal this money up by issuing bonds, but this wouldn't work in an inflationary enviornement with rising long term rates, as the Reserve would find no buyers of their bonds
Inflation varies directly with monetary velocity; the more inflation, the more people want to exchange dollars for products that may hold value, so then monetary veloicty increases
Right now oil is undervalued relative to gold, and this is due to the DEFLATION but when OIL rises again from a supply cutoff, then INFLATION will be occur and gold will rise.
I expect an imminet supply disurpution in the ME timed to correspond with the completion of the LNG export terminals in La. The Bankers own big Oil and they run the show. The Russian would also benefit from a ME supply disruption.
It's not "arabs" per se. It may be that Russia (along w/ China/Iran) have interests in oil w/ respect to the new Silk Road being (purportedly) emblazoned by China.
Add to that - it appears Saudi is experiencing financial problems while some are saying the US wants to get out of the ME to spend their energies (military/other) on China.
How would that affect you: there's a kind of currency war going on. Perhaps keeping Assad propped up by Russia is just the opening salvos against US currency and a bigger piece of the pie in fossil fuels. Perhaps fuel costs would rise as a result in the US whose economy is deeply attached to "oil."
Lots of theories going around. Keep your nose to the ground to find out how this evolves.
@LasVegasDave - New to the internet, aren't you?
I'll explain: Arabs do not matter, but the über Arabs of Saudi do. If you want to keep up bomb production in your less remote corners of America you need at least one perpetual war somewhere.
"I dont get it; If russians want to kill arabs, how does this affect me in my remote little corner of america?"
It doesn't directly involve you Dave, but it does indirectly. Indirecty in that you are presumably a tax payer, and therefore a defacto supporter of the US government. This makes you a Zio slave, Dave since your tax dollars are used to fight Jewish wars in the ME. Russia is raising the stakes in this particular Jewish war so you can expect the US to up the ante and come down on you the lowly peon for the goods/manpower to do just that.
That's how it affects you.
Another question would be how much does a private contractor make per/hr?
Private Contractor: "How much should I make per hour?"
Private CPA: "How much can you charge?"
Private Contractor: "That is the same question that I asked you."
Private CPA: "Well, no, actually it's not, let's go outside for a walk and we can discuss reality."
ho ho ho russia targeting saudis means ww3 and nuclear winter so I doubt that.
Do you really think Barack has the cojones to respond in any meaningful way if Russia, through its Iranian/Hezbollah surrogates, were to cause mayhem in the KSA? I mean, besides having Kerry make outraged protests in the UN? I don't think so, and Putin doesn't think so.
Obama will respond in a sneaky, backdoor, illegal, end-around way. No face-to-face with our foes anymore.
I really can't blame Putin for thinking Obama is way out of his league.
Didn't Bibi say he'd invade Syria if there were Iranian Troops there? Well, biatch, what you gonna do now? It won't be like shooting defenseless Palestinians, you bully.
Yeah the IDF invaded Lebanon in 2000 and 2006. It did not work out too well. They fled after about a month in 2006.
Haus-Tar: I couldn't agree more. 5 Stars to you!
Finally Some Clarity About the Russian Plans in Syria
http://www.unz.com/tsaker/finally-some-clarity-about-the-russian-plans-i...
Do you understand that Bibi and 0bama are not on the same team?
You always believe cover stories? Their underlings are on the same team and they matter a lot more than who pretends to be a leader because the minions like following a messiah.
Mentioned the other day that Saudis were shitting their pants.
Putin laying the smack down while our corporations battle over who gets paid to rebuild what we've blown up, and who's gonna control the flow of oil. Throw in the Warhawks who build gazillion dollar bases which are destined to be quality housing for whoever has the most artillery. HA
Blame whatever Blue or Red politician you want, but is the Corporations who've engineered all of this from the very beginning.
Thanks Cheney,CIA,Banker scum and all those other alphabet mutherfockers
Not mentioned in the article is the recent visit by Saudi representatives to Putin in Moscow, before Putin's latest moves to support Assad with direct military force. The Saudis obviously were trying to hedge their bets by approaching Russia as the Saudis saw their long-standing alliance with the USA losing strength.
Another angle not mentioned is Turkey. Erdogan in Turkey has been supporting ISIS and taking territory and assets (eg a car factory) from Syria. Erdogan and Turkey have a long-standing hate on for the House of Assad since the Assads have provided safe haven and military support for Kurdish separatists who waged a long uprising in Turkey and threaten to take eastern Turkey as part of a new Kurdistan (along with part of northern Iraq which is populated by Kurds). Erdogan and the Turk elite have dreams of re-establishing the Ottoman empire and view themselves as the natural heirs to Ottoman leadership. At the same time, Erdogan and Russia are involved in the Turk Stream gas pipeline project to replace the South Stream pipeline that the EU frustrated to please the USA, protect Ukraine's stranglehold on some of Russia's gas exports to Europe, and to increase the EU's leverage against Russia in the gas market. Russia is stepping on Erdogan's toes re Syria at the same time it is using Erdogan as a tool to weaken the EU's power to counteract the Russian monopoly on gas exports to the EU.
Such complicated games being played.
Indeed, it is a complicated game; thusly all the theories swirling around the world.
Erdogan has been amazingly quiet lately. He is probably starting to realize that if Syria goes hot with NATO against Russia and China, he is caught in the middle and Turkey will turn into one of the first war zones.
He must be scared shitless.
Gee, I guess they need to take a time out from all those wedding bombings to figure this one out
Aw, they can just go whip the skin off a few dissidents or chop off some alleged adulterer women’s heads to distract from this US policy SNAFU.
Fuck you Bibi! Fuck you Obama! Payback is gonna be a huge bitch.
Really? Did you not think we heard you the first fifty times you posted that. Nazi fuck.
Fuck BiBi, fuck the Zionists, fuck the Jewish Supremeists, fuck Israeli Expansionism, and fuck you.
They say that when you fuck someone that you are effectively fucking everyone they have ever fucked.
Do you feel sore at all?
Will that rash not quite ever go away?
Somehow, no matter who are how you fuck, we are all likely to end up with a bad case of the clap.
Ooooooh oldjude you called someone a "Nazi", dont you mean anti-shemite ?
You sound like one in the plague of cockroaches descending upon Europe.