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Washington Blasts Putin For Russian Strikes On "CIA-Backed Rebels" In Syria

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On Wednesday, we said that while even we were surprised at how quickly the Western propaganda machine was put into motion in the wake of Russia’s first airstrikes in Syria, it wasn’t at all surprising to see reports surface that Moscow was targeting US-backed forces rather than ISIS. Here’s how we put it: 

Followiing Russian lawmakers’ move to officially sanction airstrikes in Syria, Moscow wasted no time in launching its first round of air raids. In turn, the West wasted no time in contending that Russia is targeting areas that aren’t known to be strategically significant for ISIS. Here’s a look at two headlines which do a nice job of summarizing all of the rhetoric which you’re about to hear emanating ceaselessly from every corner of the Western world in the coming days and weeks:

  • U.S. IS CONCERNED RUSSIA'S INTENT IS PROTECTING ASSAD: KERRY
  • U.S. HAS 'GRAVE CONCERNS' IF RUSSIA STRIKES OUTSIDE ISIL AREAS

And here’s WSJ with a sneak peek at the new narrative which Washington will be working hard to refine:

 

Russian President Vladimir Putin inserted his country directly into Syria’s war Wednesday, as Russian forces launched their first airstrikes against what Moscow said were Islamic State targets in the Middle Eastern nation.

 

But Western leaders raised doubts about whether Russia really intended to take the fight to Islamic State, or merely broaden the Syrian regime’s offensive against a wide range of other opponents.

 

But with the exception of the area east of the town of Salamiyah in Hama province, none of the areas listed by the Syrian regime have a known presence of Islamic State fighters. They are largely dominated by relatively moderate rebel factions and Islamist groups like Ahrar al-Sham and the al Qaeda affiliate the Nusra Front.

And then Reuters jumped on the bandwagon, saying that based on a Skype interview with rebel commanders, it was clear that Russian warplanes were deliberately targeting anti-regime forces other than ISIS. 

The point here isn't to suggest that Moscow isn't targeting other rebel factions operating in Syria, it's to say that i) Russia has never made a secret of its intentions to bolster Assad by routing any extremist elements aiming to overthrow the government in Damascus, and ii) the idea that the US and its regional allies are a good judge of who is a "moderate" rebel and who is or will end up being a terrorist is laughable. Indeed, thanks to the brutality of ISIS, the "moderate" label is now being openly applied to al-Qaeda (see the WSJ article cited above) which would appear to suggest that Washington would prefer a Syria run by Ayman al-Zawahiri rather than Assad.

Well on Thursday the media propaganda machine kicked into high gear as WSJ is now effectively chiding Russia for hitting areas controlled in part by "CIA-backed rebels". Here's more:

Russia launched airstrikes in Syria on Wednesday, catching U.S. and Western officials off guard and drawing new condemnation as evidence suggested Moscow wasn’t targeting extremist group Islamic State, but rather other opponents of Bashar al-Assad’s regime.

 

One of the airstrikes hit an area primarily held by rebels backed by the Central Intelligence Agency and allied spy services, U.S. officials said, catapulting the Syrian crisis to a new level of danger and uncertainty. Moscow’s entry means the world’s most powerful militaries—including the U.S., Britain and France—now are flying uncoordinated combat missions, heightening the risk of conflict in the skies over Syria.

 

U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter said Russia’s approach to the Syrian war—defending Mr. Assad while ostensibly targeting extremists—was tantamount to “pouring gasoline on the fire.”

 

“I have been dealing with them for a long time. And this is not the kind of behavior that we should expect professionally from the Russian military,” Mr. Carter said at a Pentagon news conference.

 

The U.S. and its allies were angry at the Russians on many scores: that they are supporting Mr. Assad; that they aren’t coordinating their actions with the existing, U.S.-led anti-Islamic State coalition; that they provided terse notice only an hour before their operations; that they demanded the U.S. coalition stay out of Syrian airspace; and that they struck in areas where anti-Assad rebels—not Islamic State—operate.

 


 

It does appear that they were in areas where there probably were not ISIL forces, and that is precisely one of the problems with this whole approach,” said Mr. Carter, the U.S. defense chief.

It would be a "problem with the approach" if your aim wasn't to restore the Assad regime, but because that is Russia's explicit (not secret, and not "mysterious", as Washington insists) aim, there's no "problem" with it at all.

Back to WSJ for the inevtiable comparisons with Crimea and Ukraine:

The U.S. spy agency has been arming and training rebels in Syria since 2013 to fight the Assad regime. Rebels who receive support under a separate arming and training program run by the Pentagon weren’t in areas targeted by Russia in its initial strikes, the officials said.

 

The combination of unpredictable, unilateral action that flouted Western exhortations posed an unmistakable resemblance to Ukraine, where Mr. Putin moved to annex the Crimea region and has defied international demands to halt its support for separatists.

 

Mr. Putin’s decision-making in Syria mirrors the way he has approached Ukraine, said Andrew Weiss, vice president for studies at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

 

“He deliberately tries to do things to throw opponents off balance and he’s always trying to get some sort of element of surprise and tactical advantage over people, that’s sort of what keeps him going is this constant springing surprises and flipping events in his favor,” said Mr. Weiss, who worked on Russia policy in the George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton administrations.

Yes, an "unmistakable resemblance to Ukraine," much like Washington's approach to ousting Assad by training and arming extremist elements marks an "unmistakable resemblance" to countless Mid-East foreign policy blunders where the results of Washington's meddling end up being far worse than the "problem" the US was trying to "fix."

And on that note, we'll simply close by saying that while we have no doubt that Russian airstrikes will contribute to the human suffering in Syria (they're dropping bombs on populated areas after all), anyone covering this story should be careful to note that civilians (women and children included) have been dying by the hundreds of thousands in Syria for years while the US continued to support the proxy armies that contributed to the instability. So keep that in mind when you read things like the following passage, again from WSJ:

Video filmed by people affiliated with local rebel groups and posted on YouTube showed the aftermath of the airstrikes in Talbiseh. In one video, rebels and citizens are seen rushing down a street as thick black smoke and fire engulfed heavily damaged buildings. Then they are shown attempting to rescue those trapped under the rubble. A dazed man covered in blood was lifted up from the ground and taken outside.

 

“Is there anyone here?” a voice is heard shouting. “I don’t know, I don’t know but lots of people live here!” answers a panicked man.

 

In another video a naked child covered in blood and shrapnel is shown crying on a bed at a local field hospital.

 

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Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:11 | 6615298 Catullus
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Because the line between "anti-government Assad forces" and "ISIS" is so clear. It's been vetted!!!

With the totally logical end-around of "if you overthrow the Assad regime, you just open the door for ISIS".

The US state department is out of control

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:11 | 6615300 Bazza McKenzie
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Good luck for the Kremlin trying to find the 5 "moderate" combatants the US trained for $500M.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:17 | 6615347 Kaiser Wilhelm II
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Just a small correction : Good luck for anybody in the World ( except their U.S masters who obviously know where they are... ) who will try to find the 5 "moderate" combatants which were trained by the U.S for $500M.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:42 | 6615505 general ambivalent
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That was just last week's handover of weapons to ISIS.

'We trained five super soldiers and it cost a lot.' Couple weeks later these fighters are stopped by ISIS and have their weapons taken. Pretty obvious CIA bullshit.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:11 | 6615303 The Count
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Not that I am a fan of the UN because I'm not. I personally know several so called diplomats and while they are nice guys on a personal level they just get fat checks for shuffling papers.

Now how come there not a single UN meeting where all the foreign meddling in Syria and Yemen is not criticized?

 

 

 

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:12 | 6615312 NoDebt
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"He deliberately tries to do things to throw opponents off balance and he’s always trying to get some sort of element of surprise and tactical advantage over people"

"Russia has never made a secret of its intentions to bolster Assad by routing any extremist elements aiming to overthrow the government in Damascus"

Please square those two statements for me.  Either somebody's not paying attention or somebody's lying.  <gasp!>

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:44 | 6615517 general ambivalent
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In the House of Manipulation, speaking truth makes you the manipulator.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:13 | 6615314 Bay Area Guy
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I have no doubt that Mr. Putin wants to keep Assad in power.  And, given the results in removing strongmen in Iraq and Libya, that's probably not a bad idea for the long term stability of Syria.  After all, Iraq and Libya aren't exactly shining examples of functioning countries.  Both had vastly higher standards of living under the strongmen.  In addition, the strongmen kept the various factions within their countries from going at each others throats on a daily basis.  Now, not so much.  Iraq and Libya are both failed states.  Yemen, another country we're trying to fuck up, is well on its way to being a failed state.  And the US is doing its best to ensure Syria is a failed state.

Even if you don't believe ISIS is a CIA inspired organization, it's interesting to note where they're strongest.  It's in the countries the US has fucked up and is fucking up.  When there's a power vacuum at the top, someone or some group is always going to step in to try and control the reins.  In this case, it's ISIS.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:16 | 6615333 LawsofPhysics
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Yes regardless, the U.S.S.A. has no room to talk when it comes to propping up ruthless dictators.  That's for damn sure.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:21 | 6615367 conscious being
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To me, the main point is, What gives the US  the right to send in terrorists, doing car bombings for example, to destabalize and over throw the legitimate government of Syria? A quarter of a million people have died as a result. Disgusting! Another 4 million were driven from their homes. They are not running from Assad. They are running from the CIA head-choppers.

Oh and shine on VVP!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:47 | 6615537 general ambivalent
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What ever gave you the idea that states ever considered rights? Might is the only right. Leviathan, goliath, ouroboros. Choose your monster.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:39 | 6615775 Bastiat
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Naked aggression and war crimes.

Sun, 10/04/2015 - 14:07 | 6628608 Flagit
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no one gives a fuck what you think. grow up, conscious cunt

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:13 | 6615317 Monetas
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This explains Obama's "faux" anger with ISIS .... and his ineffective attacks on them .... he hates Assad for his pretty first lady ?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:36 | 6615759 Pliskin
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>>> Asma Assad

>>> The Wookie

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:13 | 6615323 conscious being
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The picture of the injured girl with her father was shot 9-25, 5 days before Russia bombed anything.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:22 | 6615392 Kaiser Wilhelm II
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Just the usual old trick of the White House : bring the poor little crying Arabic girl and make the audience weep in order to have an international moral agreement to intervene.

Remerber the first Gulf War : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 11:22 | 6615951 gezley
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It's not just the White House. The BBC can't go a day without posting an image of a weeping refugee girl in the arms of her father trying to make it into Europe just to secure a decent living for himself and his family. The fact that 70 or 80 percent of these "refugees" are young males of fighting age is airbrushed out of the picture.

Judaeo-Masonry's long term aim with all this destabilization is the final eradication of Christianity from the ancient world - both the Middle East and Europe. Christianity, not Islam, is and always has been the target of Jewry. Islam is a useful pawn in this war. And if the Muslims kill each other in the process, so much the better for "Israel".

In Jewry's war against Christianity, the Jew-owned media, like the BBC, are on the side of the wolf in sheep's clothing. Don't expect the truth from them.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 11:27 | 6615984 Boubou
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The BBC joined the conspiracy a long time agao. No chance or reality there any more.

Sun, 10/04/2015 - 14:07 | 6628609 Flagit
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no one gives a fuck what you think. grow up, conscious cunt

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:13 | 6615324 stant
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Does this mean we get some new Tom cruise movies?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:27 | 6615729 Freddie
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Hopefully a remake of Top Gun because the first one was not ghey enough.  The second will be more like Grease which was also ghey.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:14 | 6615325 29.5 hours
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George (Dubya) Bush must be turning over in his grave to see this...

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:18 | 6615352 Freddie
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Bushes, Clintons, Oboma, Cheney, Soros, Zuckerberg, Kerry-Kohn = all the same.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:14 | 6615328 LawsofPhysics
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The truth is always stranger than fiction and the truth is always treason in an empire of lies.  So many dying empires these days...

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:15 | 6615331 Peter Pan
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Can Washington please explain why the Christians are backing Assad?

Or are they terrorists as well?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:17 | 6615350 kingvaclav
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Arab Christians Support Hezbollah:

http://winteractionables.com/?p=25686

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:19 | 6615373 Peter Pan
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And the reason for that?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:29 | 6615420 jtg
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Armenians are Christians in Syria that support Assad and Hezbollah, reason being that they are helping them against the jihadi head choppers and liver eaters.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:31 | 6615743 Freddie
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Christian Lebanese singing in praise of Hezbollah for them defending Lebanon from invasion.   Hezbollah also defended all Syrians including Syrian Christians in Syria. Syria is or was about 17% Christian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JElx0Eg2iZs

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:14 | 6615621 Mike Masr
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This is because Assad, (like Saddam did in Iraq) protects his Christian population. After the US killed Saddam in Iraq the first thing that happened was the Christians were massacred. Something the Western MSM relegated to page 26 of the newspapers or never mentioined at all.

Notice when US funded and supported (supposedly good rebels) Al-Nusra confronts Christians they kill them. The US doesnt give a fuck, Putin does. There are no good rebels says Putin, only terrorists.       

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:34 | 6615752 Freddie
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How many innocent Christians and non-christians have died in USA color revolutions, coups and other crap in the middle east, n africa (libya) and the Ukraine?

All the shitheads on National Review, Free Republic et al talking about bad Putin instead of horriffic z-State Dept "policy" of creating mass murder.  Endless wars, proxy wars, coups and phony freedom fighters. 

Putin pretty much told China, Iran, Syria and others - ENOUGH!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:16 | 6615335 kingvaclav
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WSJ is not even remotely near the reality of the situation: just script reading. 

http://winteractionables.com/?p=25734

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:16 | 6615341 Freddie
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How many innocent people did the See Eye Aye and zio-State Dept murder in Libya and Syria?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:17 | 6615345 Uskatex
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Putin: Claims Russian jets killed civilians in Syria emerged before airstrikes started:

http://www.rt.com/news/317188-putin-civilian-casualties-syria/

Propaganda in high gear!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:51 | 6615557 general ambivalent
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Well that escalated pre-emptively!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:18 | 6615354 Grandad Grumps
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I guess I do not understand why the US government believes they have the right to decide who gets to kill whom... and then facilitates the murder.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:25 | 6615412 JLM
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The US is still retaliating for 9/11.  They will destroy the entire Arab world by destabilizing one country at a time till they take the whole region back to the stone age.  It is as simple as that.  Hard hearted unforgiving 3rd degree jerks.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:33 | 6615452 Lea
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"The US is still retaliating for 9/11.  They will destroy the entire Arab world by destabilizing one country at a time till they take the whole region back to the stone age."

Puh-Leeze.
Go ask the Pentagon when they intend to attack Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE, Bahrain or Jordan. All are Arab countries and USA allies.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 11:20 | 6615946 Boubou
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No Lea - it can make sense. I have proof that in the wake of 911 they we to all intents, beserk and needed to punish someone.

However strategic interests trump real justice and guilt so they attacked those already marked for regime change in the master plan for full spectrum domination and the 1000 year reich.

Any nation not fully compliant with the master plan and fully complicit in the crimes is a candidate for regime change.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:34 | 6615462 taketheredpill
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OIL

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:05 | 6615637 SillySalesmanQu...
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I'll take three letter, one syllable answers for $400 Alex...

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:37 | 6617713 Razor_Edge
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OIL

 

O: Oil

I: Israel

L:Logistics

 

That's why Iraq was attacked and destroyed. The logistics was about US bases in Iraq being available for ease of projection of US power in the ME. Didn't work out that way in the end.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:40 | 6615494 Grandad Grumps
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Ya know, to date I have seen zero evidence supporting the US administration claim that Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Egypt or any of the overthrown governments had anythign to do with 9/11. However, there is plenty of circumstantial evidence implicating Irsael and the Saud... as well as internal US elements.

... and don't tell me that a passport that survived the blast that disintegrated the entire aircraft and floated gently to the ground to by found is evidence for the US government fairytale. It is evidene against the government fairytale and evidence for a conspiracy.

People typically choose a team. We have been led to believe the teams are the US versus radical Islam who hate our *choke, choke* freedom. Those are not the teams ... figure it out.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:19 | 6615355 chubbar
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Why is there never a conversation about whether the US should be the arbiter of what leaders to overthrow in sovereign countries?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:18 | 6615359 withglee
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what keeps him going is this constant springing surprises and flipping events in his favor,

Reality and truth are such pests!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:18 | 6615360 fowlerja
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I am tired of the US playing second fiddle to the Russians...we have the weapons to knock out ISIS..where the hell is "Rambo" when you need him..

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:31 | 6615434 AlfredNeumann
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You still don't get it  ISIS is CIA/Mossad

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:34 | 6615456 Grandad Grumps
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The problems seems to be that the US government (as opposed to the US people) has no intention of eliminating ISIS. They want to topple Assad and create chaos in the region.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:49 | 6615817 Freddie
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The US people are sheep.  American white males cheering on their Trayvon thugs as they worship them.  They worship that rapist FSU quarterback Jamies and other thugs like him. Pathetic.  the Russians do not do that sort of stupidity and anti-white behavior.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:18 | 6615364 Zero-Hegemon
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US State Department: "NOT FAIR! NOT FAIR AT ALL!"

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 11:21 | 6615953 Freddie
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Seriously - have the Z-State Department run by Soros and other zoligarchs, Nudelman, Bushes, Clintons, Oboma, Al See Eye Aye Duh, et al killed more innocent people than Pol Pot over the past 10+ years?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 13:02 | 6616484 Zero-Hegemon
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Yeah, but... FREEDOM

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:21 | 6615382 css1971
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Yeah. Al Quaeda are America's bestest buddies in Syria. They're the "moderate" terrorists America is supporting.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:21 | 6615385 Last of the Mid...
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Maybe we can get Obama to put a mushroom stamp on Putin's forehead, that's about all he's good for.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:28 | 6615388 falak pema
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Damn right : Putin's intent is to stop the US's hegemonial hold on the region, to make commodity trades independent of petrodollar, to reduce $ reserve role from monopoly to one among many, to build his own Asian common market including Iran, China and India.

He has said it openly and he has started the ball of his alter vision of world geo politics rolling in Ukraine.

The last thing we should hear from DC is : We don't understand what he is doing !

Really, you don't?

Or is it that you are now hog-tied to a pardner who is ally to Al Qaeda elements in Syrac ?

All for OIL ! Always has been the true Jerusalem of US policy.

The same AL-Qaeda that... well, its History!

One day the West will have to admit it : 9/11 and Al-Qaeda are not the real issue; the real issue is Arab Oil as they be the biggest exporting region in the world !

Its  our collective life-line, until we find another that is perennial !

Contrary to the official line its the Wahhabist tail that wags the Western dog UNTIL THAT DAY OF TRUE hopium!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:59 | 6615608 Joe A
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The fight is about who is going to control Eurasia. Who controls that controls people, markets and resources from Western Europe to Vladivostok. About 3 billion people in all.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:12 | 6615663 general ambivalent
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Nothing the US Government says is meant to deal with real facts or truth. They believe in the theories of in-plain-sight coding of information. This means that the code they are trying to transmit is in plain sight, for all to see - you have access to all of the information, even the key is available, but you have to know how it all fits together.

This fits with their creative-destruction geopolitics which is succinctly defined by the comment, '[W]hen we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out." Studying what they do is irrelevant to them as the actions are in the past, and you are left studying these actions and left to the future shock that they are already acting again.

You can bet Russia gets the real message behind the coding loud and clear. All the idiocy on stage is just to keep people embroiled in the past, in the politics, and hoping that some other figure can step in to save the real honest and true government. But there never was one. The more you believe there was the more you are stuck in the past looking for the last glimmer of hope in what they do.

Nihilism is a paradoxical bitch. They get that, and that is their source of strength.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:24 | 6615714 falak pema
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All this implies that the Imperial order holds, for new fiction to efface past reality ad nauseum.

It didn't work out for past Empires, when their fiction finds total opposition and disdain.

Nobody can live in their own bubble forever.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:43 | 6615794 Sparkey
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Thank you Ambivalent, I have read this before but hadn't correctly understood it, of course, everyone discusses the 'irrevelent' past, while those that plan to control the future, ( try to0 create the future they want.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:17 | 6615684 LawsofPhysics
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Correct.  Oil and other real resources are de facto "reserve currencies" because you can in fact do and build real shit with them.

same as it ever was. 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:22 | 6615389 localizer
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Whatever the Russians do they will always be the bad guys for the Western MSM.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:30 | 6615427 Peter Pan
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And the more vicious and vitriolic the attacks by the western MSM, the more success Putin and the Russians must be having.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:39 | 6615489 lakecity55
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Of Course. The western MSM is owned by the same group who killed off the Romanovs because they would not surrender to them.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 11:28 | 6615985 Freddie
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They went on to murder 25 million Christian Russians.  I hope the people of Russia understand that history.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:22 | 6615390 Infinite QE
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The inbred khazars are finally going insane. Nature is taking its course with them. Let's accelerate the process for them with some big big fire pits.

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:23 | 6615398 Forrest Grump
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Rebel footage of them getting blasted by Russian aircraft.  We must be recruiting sub-100 IQ fighters. Allah Akbar!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=3&v=oqJPVlDdLek

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:40 | 6615499 shovelhead
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Rough translation:

"Holy Fuckin' Allah Akbah..."

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:23 | 6615400 Bill of Rights
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The Hypocrisy, it burns

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:25 | 6615406 X_Weatherman
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You think Europe is in a tissy now with all the refugees.  Wait till all the child-raping, Christian beheading, once U.S. backed death-squad, war-criminals rats start fleeing for their lives out of Syia across the Med / Bosphorus.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:25 | 6615407 dsty
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Well, good luck Putin

Hope this isn't Afghanistan all over again.

Jumping into a pile of snakes.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:51 | 6615828 Volkodav
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You know nothing about Afghanistan

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:29 | 6615423 AlfredNeumann
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Hey America, they aren't rebels. they are TERRORISTS. there is no such thing as a moderate terrorist.

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:29 | 6615424 AlfredNeumann
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Hey America, they aren't rebels. they are TERRORISTS. there is no such thing as a moderate terrorist.

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:36 | 6615472 farflungstar
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 like sayin I am a moderate murderer or a half-assed rapist. 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:55 | 6615584 xavi1951
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What would it take for them to be "Patriots"?  

I am pretty sure that the British considered GW a terrorist in his time.  Now he is a patriot.  Che Guevara was both, depending on your politics.

It depends on which side of the fight you are on.

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:32 | 6615449 jakesdad
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well, at least we know putin will bring a decisive end (even if less than desirable one) to it vs our (us) do just enough to perpetuate the conflict indefinitely while breeding new future enemies approach...

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:37 | 6615453 lakecity55
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The USSA has fucked up the entire ME.

The only answer now is for the CSTO, the SCO, and other interested parties to destroy the terrorists.
There are no "moderate" rebels fighting against Assad. They are tentacles of Daesh, IMO.

Just as the Tentacles of the City of London want a one-world-order with them in control and no possibility of national, sovereign expression.

Finally, the complete madman, McCain, who now wants to shoot down Russian aircraft, needs to be institutionalized. This insane old man has no place around Power. McCain is NOT on the payroll of the US. His allegiance is to a foreign power.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:34 | 6615460 farflungstar
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Cry, Washington, cry your crocodile tears. No one cares about your pet terrorists. They fucked up Syria for 4 years. Maybe next time you stop doing favors for the paranoid jewish fanatics in israel and instead take a giant shit on their doorstep.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:34 | 6615463 Yttrium Gold Ni...
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I don't remember Russia telling US how to bomb former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya. Yes, Russia was against forceful intervention in those countries, but it wasn't giving advice on how to do things it wasn't part of. That reminds me of a joke: a couple is having sex, and the lady is screaming "Oh yeah, to the left, yes, more to the left, now up, oh, good, up, up", and the man asks her "Listen, who's fucking who here?" If the US doesn't like how and whom Russia bombs, it can always ask Assad for permission to join the fight and then bomb how it deems like.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:34 | 6615464 Zymurguy
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Listen carefully to the Obama administration... they are saying (paraphrasing here):  "Russia not targeting ISIS(L) strongholds"

Makes it sound like Russia is doing something wrong.

However, I think Russia is being very cautious.  They, like many know that ISIS has US weaponry.  How they acquired said weapons is up for debate but isn't the issue here.  They have US weaponry... most likely some of the nastiest portable surface to air hardware know to mankind.

Russia is just using an age old military tactic of "paving the road" on their way to the strongholds.

The Obama admin' is simply trying to goad Russia into making a mistake.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:54 | 6615579 Crocodile
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If they don't, then they will now.  Tragic how the "Super-powers" are fighting it out on others playgrounds (Ukraine/Syria) because the US has no morals left.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:37 | 6615479 Smegley Wanxalot
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Look, I trust obama to do the right thing in the middle east ... which basically means he will lead the charge for transgender toilets in Baghdad.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:39 | 6615485 farflungstar
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Excellent read, with photos. Love this

How "fucked up" Syria was BEFORE foreign intervention.

https://medium.com/news-politics/a-marine-in-syria-d06ff67c203c

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:38 | 6615486 HoserF16
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< I Like Putin

< I Hate Obama, Mossad/Rothschild's

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:45 | 6615527 Zero-Hegemon
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Shame I can't vote both up and down

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:38 | 6615488 whitelivesmatter
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Is the chart incomplete?  I thought the Russians were also working with the Iraq gov.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:31 | 6615744 Boxed Merlot
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Is the chart incomplete?...

 

I'd like to see Venn add China to it too.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:40 | 6615498 Jstanley011
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The current American regime is certifiably psychotic. They are psychopathic murderers.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:47 | 6615536 farflungstar
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just like the last one. Such continuity.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:52 | 6615572 Jstanley011
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Good point.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:00 | 6615609 Jstanley011
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When Bush II first got into office, before 9-11, there was an official white paper circulated under an executive branch header that rationalized the US attacking and invading countries "preemptively."

US foreign policy has been fucked up beyond human imagination ever since. It is evil.

I got a copy off the Internet at the time, but unfortunately I no longer have it. It would make quite a read now.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:52 | 6615566 HoserF16
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Just like the NAZI's were/are. But wait...

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:41 | 6615501 AlfredNeumann
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Russia needs to keep the hammer down.  Fuck what the USA media liars say.

If Russia can rid Syria of ANY kind of terrorists he will be a hero .

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:50 | 6615554 Jstanley011
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And US "influence" in the Middle East will be reduced to zero. Good job there Mr. Obongo!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:41 | 6615502 DOT
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What great opportunities!

There is always a trade available on such extreme events...

Get long on chain link fence, razor wire and tent manufacturers. Don't forget those calls on red sharpies (foreign policy magic) as Foggy Bottom will be required to respond forcefully.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:42 | 6615507 rita
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It is a shame the WSJ does not spend the same reporting effort when it is Israel bombing innocent women and children in Gaza, or the US/NATO in Iraq, or the US /Coallition in Syria!

Reporting has to be neutral objective which it is not.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:26 | 6615724 Pliskin
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Yeh, they don't say too much when it's that fat, fucking pig Poroshenko ordering the slaughter of women and kids, or his scrawny, Kike, AIDS victim looking freak of a pal 'Yats'...Then it's all quiet on the western front (as it were!)

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 11:51 | 6616077 farflungstar
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Yats is a Scientologist and looks like he enjoys a bit of heroin now and then.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:43 | 6615508 NoWayJose
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So the US is admitting that it is backing rebel groups trying to overthrow the existing Syrian government? And the U.S. still wants to claim the moral high ground?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:45 | 6615525 rejected
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U.S. and 'moral' in the same sentence?  Just doesn't seem right.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:43 | 6615511 spanish inquisition
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Pentagon - "This was a group of highly skilled bat shit crazy moderates costing us millions to train, they were attacked and destroyed before they could defect to Isis. It's a a black eye for American exceptionalism."

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:43 | 6615514 rejected
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The advantages of being a Washington bureaucrat. Saying something nauseatingly stupid,,, believing it yourself,,, and being proud you said it and hoping for a promotion.

Washington's Delusional Criminals at their best.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:43 | 6615515 AlfredNeumann
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Notice the USA media never showed he women and children butchered by the tyrant Netanyahu.

IN fact,  Israel actually TARGETS women and children (especially pregnant women).

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:52 | 6615561 farflungstar
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The IDF had t-shirts of pregnant women in a gun crosshair which said:

"1 shot 2 kills"

http://news.sky.com/story/678761/israeli-army-t-shirts-mock-gaza-killings

That doesn't get any play in the states because of sayanim and kikes like the one who downvoted you

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:51 | 6615562 dsty
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typical idiotic comment from skimpy Lederhosen Dutch Boy and his love of the Fuhrer

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:53 | 6615577 farflungstar
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you're a terrorist supporting asshole in denial

http://news.sky.com/story/678761/israeli-army-t-shirts-mock-gaza-killings

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:04 | 6615635 xavi1951
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For someone that HATES Jews so much, I find it interesting that you chose Alfred for your moniker.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:49 | 6615519 Crocodile
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Where did all the "refugees" came from; thanks US, NATO, and Al-CIAda?   Al-CIAda backed rebels are IS, ISIS & ISIL, which ever term of confusion they want to propagate.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if a US pilot is put on the alter of sacrifice and is shot down by the US/NATO and blamed on Russia.

 

We are about to find out two things: 1) how much METAL Putin has & 2) how foolish the sheeple in the US really are, if they buy this BS

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:47 | 6615541 praxis
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This is madness.  Watching the "news" last night, an interview with Fiorina.  Sez she we need to confront and challenge Vlad and if some of our fighters happend to sortie with the Russians its ok.  Then later, another interview with Marko right wing Cuban Rubio who again thinks we need to stand up to the bully and confront Vlad.  Are the Republicans all bat shit crazy?  The only one who's said anything that resembles any sense is Donald fucked Ivana Trump who at least figured it out that whoever we back is generally much worse than the predecessor.  Donald doesnt seem to give two shits about Putins action in Syria.  BINGO! someone gets it!  For the love of christ the MIC is going to destroy this nation and drag us all into a world war...

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:57 | 6615597 AlfredNeumann
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The biggest bullies on the planet is the USA.  Period.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:48 | 6615543 Son of Captain Nemo
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My only hope is that John McCinsane and Paul Vallely were among the "rubble"!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:53 | 6615545 Mike Masr
Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:52 | 6615573 Pumpkin
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This 'he is a brutal evil dictator' BS is getting old.  Show me where in the constitution of the US of A, the federal government has any delegated power to remove a foreign dictator, or install an international banking cartel in the process.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:55 | 6615588 AlfredNeumann
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Brutal dicktaster  = Netanyahu and Saudi King. both genoidal maniacs and buddies of the USA>

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:54 | 6615583 ZippyDooDah
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Russian strategy is to shore up the Assad government, starting air strikes close to the govt held areas and not striking far afield (from the govt) at the ISIS-held areas for now.  This is a coherent strategy with the relatively simple aim of strengthening Assad immediately, while postponing striking at Assad enemies further from the govt-held area until the govt areas are more secure.  I imagine the Russians will get around to ISIS soon enough.  Note to Kerry, Obama, et al. ("my" govt.):  stop bleating like a bunch of sheep. Finally someone (Putin) is taking down the terrorists in Syria.  Thank God. 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:56 | 6615590 dsty
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Good article.

Putin sort of stickn it to Obama

But, a terrorist is a terrorist.

If Asad hadn't made this a safe haven for terrorist activity against other countries we probably would not have this problem

So, that is what you get

Hope Russia can help

Biblicly speaking, it is going to get worse and eventualy all these folks are gonna get hurt bad.

Oh well.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:01 | 6615619 AlfredNeumann
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Hey Dopey, when the USA invaded Iraq ,many Iraqi Christians fled to Syria for freedom.

You don't know jack shit about Syria or anthing else so just FUCK OFF, little boy.

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 09:57 | 6615599 Laddie
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The Ukraine!!! It was the USSA, led by their Tribal masters, who worked to OVERTHROW by VIOLENCE the lawfully elected government of the Ukraine. It is the USSA who is arming, training and funding terrorists, such as ISIS and the other "Moderate" Moslem terrorists, to overthrow the LAWFULLY elected government of Syria. It is Mr Putin who is showing RESTRAINT, it is Mr Putin who is acting honorably. It does still surprise me to find nothing to condemn in Mr Putin's actions, but I can find NOTHING wrong or evil that he has done as the leader of a truly great nation. Do I agree with every domestic policy he has no, but surely they are BETTER than most of Europe's.

Mr Putin is looking after the interests of Russia, unlike the SCUMBAGS who, Demonrat and Republican both, have sold US, the founding stock, OUT for SHEKELS to the Tribe.

Look at the restraint Mr Putin used with the Georgian invasion of South Ossettia, it was remarkable. And Georgia was run by ISRAELIS at the time.

Mr Putin has been, strictly by looking after RUSSIAN INTERESTS, bothering the Tribe quite a bit.

Mr Putin stands up for traditional Christian values!
Tsk, tsk, doesn't he know that the Tribe LOATHES such things?

Dr Kevin MacDonald's chapter on Frankfurt School and psychoanalysis

Dr Kevin MacDonald's chapter on immigration

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:04 | 6615634 Niall Of The Ni...
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Tribe? If you mean the Jews, they have no future even as slaves, except in a Russian-dominated Middle East.

If you mean the 30,000 who rule us, most of them have no Jewish blood at all and none regard the Mosaic Law as more than slave morality. If they are favourably inclined towards any faith at all it's Islam.

The Tatar war cry "Ukraine, allahu akbar" tells me all I need to know.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:05 | 6615601 Niall Of The Ni...
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Uncle Sugar's interest in the Middle East was to keep oil prices low and the EBT cards working. The price for that was allowing the House of Saud to dominate the Middle East and removing anybody from power that Riyadh hated or feared.

Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi were among them. Assad was to be next. Eventually, even Israel was to be thrown to the wolves.

(Islam is everything Judaism is accused of being by Yid-bashers and far, far worse besides. That's why our masters hate Jews and love Islam. If a Pakistani nuke flattened Tel Aviv tomorrow morning, our masters woul cheer.)

Naturally Uncle and Riyadh are furious that someone not only can stop them but is finally trying to.

Now the real question is not if Israel will figure out that Russia is a far more dependable ally than Uncle Sugar and switch sides in the Great Game, but when.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:10 | 6615655 Jstanley011
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Someone who gets it. BTW, Putin et. al. has already met with Netanyahu et. al., and arrangements for sharing intelligence -- of which Israel has the best network in the region -- are already in place and functioning.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:03 | 6615624 AlfredNeumann
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What we have to watch out for now is if Israhell sends jets to attack the Golan like they have been doing for years.

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:18 | 6615689 FlacoGee
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Hezbollah will be a clear winner after Syria is liberated.

Russia and Iran are funneling fighters and weapons into Syria.

Once the major fighting is over, those weapons will go back to Lebannon.

Hezbollah kicked Israel's ass a couple of years ago and the next ass kicking is going to be a sight to see.

 

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:03 | 6615625 AlfredNeumann
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What we have to watch out for now is if Israhell sends jets to attack the Golan like they have been doing for years.

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:04 | 6615631 farflungstar
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Not only do the Russians know how to handle terrorist scum, they also know how to deal with illegal immigrants. Europe wringing their hands helplessly over hordes of migrants (wonder how many bring Ebola, aside from the usual crime-rape-theft vibrancy)could learn from them: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2a6-1UD1kI

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:13 | 6615667 Chad_the_short_...
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Shouldn't we expect the algos to start selling oil to punish russia now? 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:14 | 6615671 FlacoGee
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It is going to be quite embarassing for the USA (and their "narrative") when Russia destroys anti-Assad factions in week #1 and ISIS by the end of week #4.

It will be interesting to see the USA response when Russia proclaims, after 4 weeks, that ISIS has been destroyed.

Assad and Putin meet in Damascus and wave to the cameras.

Qatar can kiss their pipeline goodbye.

 

 

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 11:02 | 6615863 man of Wool
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ISIS will still be alive in Iraq.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 11:24 | 6615971 corsair
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I doubt that Baghdad is teaming up with Russians for Syria's sake.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 13:25 | 6616107 Jorgen
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"I doubt that Baghdad is teaming up with Russians for Syria's sake."

This should dispel your doubts:

Russian Foreign Minister: Russia Ready to Consider the Request of Baghdad for Air Force Operations in Iraq   (in Russian, use Yandex to translate)

Btw, no word from Yemeni Houthi government yet if they want to hire RFAF.

UPDATE: It did not take long for the Iraqi government to accept Russia's offer:

The Iraqi Prime Minister has invited Russian aviation to deal with ISIS  in his country    (in Russian, use Yandex to translate)

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:15 | 6615675 Lostinfortwalton
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How do you distinguish between ISIS and the "moderate rebels"? Clue for the Russian Air Force, ISIS has the new US vehicles and weapons wheras the moderates have to make do with second-hand stuff. If it is new then bomb it! You are welcome.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 11:18 | 6615940 shovelhead
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They look for the still fresh dealers tags on the windows for ISIS.

AlQaida has 'Mike's Plumbing' lettering on the doors.

They're like Uncle Sam's fat old girlfriend now that he's dating the new hot chick.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:16 | 6615678 man of Wool
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WSJ is just another Murdoch rag.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:17 | 6615681 orangegeek
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That's the stuff barry - really show Putin what you are made.

 

So what's your next move barry?  Suck Putin's cock perhaps??  Offer up moochelle to clean Putin's kitchen and cook Putin's meals?

 

You're winning barry - keep it up.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:18 | 6615688 El_Puerco
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How Psychopaths operate and how to deal with them:

 

As humans, we need to confront this threat and DEAL with it.

We need to remember that cooperating with evil, on ANY level, is a MISTAKE and it will ultimately come back to bite you.

So why we spend so much ink and time to explain how to American (Predatory) Capitalism works?! 

When relationship with reptilian host is killing us…

  

How to spot Psychopaths: Writing Patterns give them Away...

 

What distinguishes all of these Humanoids from the rest of us (Human) is an utterly empty hole.

 

Inside the Mind of a ZEROHEDGE Psychopath. 

 

          { http://bit.ly/1MgUyTk }

 

 

 Defense against the Psychopath full length version -------------------Humanity is in trouble! ----------------

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:46 | 6615809 LawsofPhysics
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"Captialism" is to blame?

Sorry, but we haven't had that for quite a while. Neither have we had socialism, what we have been experiencing is corporatism/cronyism/fascism.

Yes, humanity is in trouble when they cannot even admit the truth.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 11:37 | 6616025 shovelhead
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It's the reptoid's fault. Just another illegal alien causing trouble.

Hehehe.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:18 | 6615690 cheech_wizard
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4 out of 5 CIA trained moderate rebels recommend Crest toothpaste. The 5th had his teeth blown out from a Russian air strike.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:18 | 6615691 Thisisbullishright
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He can't do that to our pledges!

Only WE can do that to our pledges!

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:28 | 6615734 optimator
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One of the best movies ever.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:20 | 6615696 nostromo17
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The whole discourse is wrong sided. We went into Syria which is traditionally a Russian allie because we wanted to put a pipeling through for U.S. instead of Russia running a pipeline. So, U.S. started this mess and ISIS as tool to balkanize middle east backfired in Syria. Too bad. The back pedaling on this is fun to watch. American State Department foreign policy is so lame and stupid its incredible probably because it hasn't changed since the New American Century Project fools set it in motion, which included G.W. Bush and yes of course JEB BUSH. The 100 years war off Imperial Domination of the world continues as the misguided inept mis-managed peice it is. Jeb should be hanged not allowed to run for President.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:35 | 6615756 El_Puerco
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I do not want to disappoint you but…A deal was strike last summer between this two White Europeans country...Us and Russia...

 

It’s not surprise that the other white Europeans are in Syria..

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:20 | 6615697 nostromo17
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The whole discourse is wrong sided. We went into Syria which is traditionally a Russian allie because we wanted to put a pipeling through for U.S. instead of Russia running a pipeline. So, U.S. started this mess and ISIS as tool to balkanize middle east backfired in Syria. Too bad. The back pedaling on this is fun to watch. American State Department foreign policy is so lame and stupid its incredible probably because it hasn't changed since the New American Century Project fools set it in motion, which included G.W. Bush and yes of course JEB BUSH. The 100 years war off Imperial Domination of the world continues as the misguided inept mis-managed peice it is. Jeb should be hanged not allowed to run for President.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:28 | 6615733 Grandad Grumps
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Yes, part of the problem with the State Department is that it does not have a (mentally) balanced constituency. It is overrun with and run by extremists who do not allow reasonable people in.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:27 | 6615698 Mike Masr
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Analysts: Ukraine’s Right Sector strong enough to stage coup

http://tass.ru/en/opinions/823483

 

Another Obumer foreign policy blunder. Regime change in Ukraine
Thu, 10/01/2015 - 11:04 | 6615872 swmnguy
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I'm sure Right Sector has what it needs to stage a coup in the rump-state of Ukraine.  And then what will they do?  Who knows?  But we can look at the history of blood-crazed Fascists to see if there are any patterns.  

Oh, my, yes there are.  If we can judge by the history of what these people always do every single chance they get at power, we see that they'll steal everything they can pry loose, kill everybody who even looks at them funny much less resists them, and then they'll start killing each other.  Right before they all kill each other, one of them will set everything on fire and the last one of them will burn to death, rather than be shot, stabbed, clubbed, garroted or gassed.

Because that's what guys like this always do.

Sure makes me proud to be a taxpaying American.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 10:23 | 6615703 Grandad Grumps
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Can Russia and Iran stabilize the region if the US gets out of the way? Maybe.

Can the Russians and Iran do it without directly confronting Israel and the Saud? Maybe not.

Are the US and Russian governments simply playing a game of tag-team destabilization? Maybe.

What should the US government do? Make peace with God the creator.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 11:23 | 6615966 Wahooo
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Putin is not a fight and stay guy. He has no
long term desire to keep troops abroad.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 11:45 | 6616055 shovelhead
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Never happen.

Working for Moses' people is close enough for Govt. work.

Big G ain't got no juice in the campaign donation dept.

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