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Meet Oregon School Shooter Chris Harper-Mercer: "You're Going To See God In Just About One Second"
Sadly, the post-mass-shooting killer profile has become something of a media tradition in the US of late as a string of violence that includes the execution of nine African American churchgoers in Charleston and the on-air murder of a TV reporter has delivered a shock to the collective psyche of Americans and served notice that tragedies like those that occurred at Columbine, Virginia Tech, and Sandy Hook may well become commonplace going forward.
The latest “incident” in the mass shooting tradition came on Thursday when someone described only as “a 20-year-old man” went on a rampage at Umpqua Community College in Oregon. According to some eyewitness accounts, the shooter demanded that victims “stand up and state their religion” before summarily executing them.
On Friday, the first details are beginning to emerge about the identity of the shooter. Here’s Reuters with more:
The man killed by police on Thursday after he fatally shot nine people at a community college in southern Oregon was a nervy 26-year-old who lived close to the campus and described himself as shy, according to neighbors, media and online reports.
A law enforcement source said multiple agencies had identified the shooter as Chris Harper-Mercer. Online directories list a man of that name as having lived in Torrance, California, before moving to Winchester, Oregon.
The killer used four guns, including a type of assault rifle, in the classroom attack, CNN said. Seven people were also wounded at the Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, a timber town of about 20,000 people that adjoins Winchester.
A photo posted on a MySpace profile belonging to someone named Chris Harper-Mercer, from Torrance, showed a young man with a shaved head, dark-rimmed glasses and a serious expression. He was holding a long-barreled gun.
A neighbor next door to the Winchester building said Thursday night he recognized online photos of Harper-Mercer as being his neighbor.
In an Internet posting on the Spiritual Passions dating and social networking site, a user posted a picture that appears to be Harper-Mercer under the user name IRONCROSS45, a handle Harper-Mercer used as his email.
He described himself on the site as a 26-year-old, mixed-race "man looking for a woman." He said he was "not religious, but spiritual," and was a "teetotaler" living with his parents and a conservative Republican. Socially, he said, he was "shy at first" and "better in small groups." He described himself as "always dieting" and looking for "the yin to my yang."
And here’s further color from The New York Times:
Chris Harper Mercer, the man identified as the gunman in the deadly rampage at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Ore., on Thursday, was a withdrawn young man who neighbors said wore the same outfit every day — combat boots, green Army pants and a white T-shirt — and was close to his mother, who fiercely protected him.
Neighbors in Winchester, Ore., and Torrance, Calif., where Mr. Mercer, 26, lived with his mother, Laurel Harper, remember a reclusive and seemingly fragile young man with a shaved head and dark glasses who seemed to recoil from social interaction.
“He always seemed anxious,” said Rosario Lucumi, 51, who rode the same bus in Torrance as Mr. Mercer when she went to work. She said she believed he took it to El Camino College. “He always had earphones in, listening to music.”
“He and his mother were really close,” said Ms. Lucumi, who estimated that Mr. Mercer and his mother, who shared a small one-bedroom apartment in Torrance, lived there for less than a year. “They were always together.”
Bryan Clay, 18, said he once asked Mr. Mercer why he wore “a military get-up” every day.
“He kind of just didn’t want of talk about it” and changed the subject, Mr. Clay said.
“He didn’t say anything about himself,” he added.
Mr. Mercer appeared to have sought community on the Internet. A picture of him holding a rifle appeared on a MySpace page with a post expressing a deep interest in the Irish Republican Army. It included footage from the conflict in Northern Ireland set to “The Men Behind the Wire,” an Irish republican song, and several pictures of gunmen in black balaclavas. Another picture showed the front page of An Phoblacht, the party newspaper of Sinn Fein, the former political wing of the I.R.A.
A picture of Mr. Mercer also appeared on a long-dormant dating website profile registered in Los Angeles. On it, he described himself as an “introvert” with a dislike for “organized religion.”
Here are the images from Mercer’s MySpace page...
...here is the above mentioned "Spiritual Passions" profile...
...and here is a review penned by someone with the same username (IRONCROSS45) after purchasing Nazi attire:
According to reports, Mercer's professed "dislike for organized religion" led him to "target" Christians, although the chilling details presented below may simply indicate that Mercer was attempting to terrorize his victims before killing them. Via CNN:
The gunman who opened fire at Oregon's Umpqua Community College singled out Christians, according to the father of a wounded student.
Before going into spinal surgery, Anastasia Boylan told her father the gunman entered her classroom firing.
"I've been waiting to do this for years," the gunman told the professor teaching the class. He shot him point blank, Boylan recounted.
Others were hit too, she told her family.
Everyone in the classroom dropped to the ground.
The gunman, while reloading his handgun, ordered the students to stand up and asked if they were Christians, Boylan told her family.
"And they would stand up and he said, 'Good, because you're a Christian, you're going to see God in just about one second,'" Boylan's father, Stacy, told CNN, relaying her account.
"And then he shot and killed them."
Mercer's blog posts, which were penned under the name "lithium_love" have apparently been removed (see here) but here are some excerpts via CNN and via another blogger who copied the entries before they were taken down. The first two paragraphs reference Virginia shooter Vester Flanagan:
I have noticed that so many people like him are all alone and unknown, yet when they spill a little blood, the whole world knows who they are. A man who was known by no one, is now known by everyone. His face splashed across every screen, his name across the lips of every person on the planet, all in the course of one day. Seems the more people you kill, the more you're in the limelight.
And I have to say, anyone who knew him could have seen this coming. People like him have nothing left to live for, and the only thing left to do is lash out at a society that has abandoned them.
I just read about the houston cop shooting. Figured I’d post this since the response to my previous blog post on vester flanagan was so interesting. On the houston shooting it was reported that the suspect was influenced by black lives matter protests/movement. Although I don’t know if thats true, with all the issues about police and blacks/protestors in the news the past couple of years, it certainly seems like someone would be inspired to take action. With the constant chants of anti police rhetoric this was bound to happen. I don’t disagree that police brutality and excessive use of force is a problem, but killing an officer that never did anything to you is not the answer.
This whole event seems similar to the one in new york earlier this year where that guy killed those two cops sitting in a parked car. The inflammatory rhetoric on both sides, whether warranted or not will only continue to agitate the situation and events such as these will happen more and more. These are just my thoughts on the matter. Will continue to post more blogs on related subjects, as well any interesting thoughts I may have.
We'll leave it to readers to draw their own conclusions as to what this says about race relations in America, religion, the copy cat effect, and the outright disintegration of society. We close by noting that sadly, we doubt this is the last time we'll find ourselves profiling someone who carries out a mass shooting and we leave you with the following rather unnerving bit from The New York Times piece excerpted above:
In the offline world, Mr. Mercer’s mother sought to protect him from all manner of neighborhood annoyances, former neighbors in Torrance said, from loud children and barking dogs to household pests. Once, neighbors said, she went door-to-door with a petition to get the landlord to exterminate cockroaches in her apartment, saying they bothered her son.
“She said, ‘My son is dealing with some mental issues, and the roaches are really irritating him,’ ” Julia Winstead, 55, said.
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Why do mass shootings in the U.S. always happen in gun free zones?
Isn't the point of a gun free zone to stop people from having guns there to shoot others with?
+1
Wanna see a libtard short-circuit? Ask them why mass shootings never happen at gun shows!
Or on gun ranges.
Why no race in the headline when Wiccan blax shoot Christian whites?
Yeah, take the guns away so fine young men like this can achieve the notoriety they crave and provide the content the media craves. So twisted.
MySpace?
Loser......
It’s a good thing there are plenty of psychotics conveniently equipped with guns or explosives around to help distract from important, embarrassing or blatantly evil criminal political situations.
Isn't Chicago a gun-free place...?
Dang, can't anybody hide their identity anymore?
So was he on mind control drugs, excuse me, drugs to treat his illness like SSRI type drugs?
My question was everyone there on drugs? Just watched an interview and it seems everyone was complying with his commands as he picked them off one by one. WTF?
Does anyone not have the fight or flight reaction anymore?
This reminds me of those ISIS beheadings where the victim calmly waits to have their heads cut off.
Either that or this is a simple unique snowflake coming to grips with being just another rotting bag of meat and was trying SSRIs to take the edge off.
pods
Perhaps he was likeathiefinthenite.
Go ahead, you tube it, I double dog dare ya.
These mass killers are all the same. Young men in their sexual prime who aren't getting any. It's the lack of pussy that makes them do it. We need a government program to correct this. It could be 'paid volunteers' and we could call it Amera-whore.
The rifle in his photos is a Ruger 10/22. No doubt CNN is reporting that a 10/22 is "a type of assault rifle." It doesn't even have a gas block, which rules out semi-automatic except for blowback (i.e. .22lr, .22wmr, .17hmr)
My 10/22 is appropriate for massacres.. of rodents.
But let’s see.. zombie killer, no sports, shaved head, lives with parents, owns guns. military and IRA graphics on personal page, never in the military (?), Nazi memorabilia but mixed race, compulsive dieter, owns guns…
Nope, nothing to see here..
Probably no more of a threat than a Bostonian Chechen refugee on welfare
(the teetotaler thing would certainly tip ME off though..)
( and certainly not worth checking out whether there was an SSRI prescription to go along with all of that.)
The SS Deaths Head cap was a nice subliminal touch. I'm sure Mr. Mercer would have made a good aryan National Socialist.
Eye color is the factor in racial profiling Mr Bach.
America's children when morality is relativistic.
Big hint, man is a patsy.
Who is a Mercer?
See livery companies.
See Masons (juat like our Tyler here, very masonic handle).
Perhaps a true blue molon labe test coming to USSA...hold tight...
You can always tell the race/religion of the shooter by how quickly details come out about them. White Republican Christian means details are instant. Anything else the details are sparse and trickle out slowly.
Didn't take them long to sketch up the desired narrative.
Gunman held anti-government beliefs, source saysInvestigators believe that Chris Harper Mercer, the gunman in the Oregon college shooting, was a hate-filled individual with anti-government and conspiracy tendencies, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the probe said Friday.
Mercer's communications and activities suggest he was supportive of the white supremacist agenda and opposed organized religion, said the source, who did not want to be named because of the ongoing investigation.
The 26-year-old gunman, who was killed in an exchange of gunfire with law enforcement officers, also liked to discuss military history, the source said. Authorities have obtained some of his writings and a note he left behind.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-oregon-shooting-live-updates-htmlsto...
Interesting interview with neighbor.
"I saw him almost eveyday when I came home from work. He would be talking with and playing with the same two kids age 3-4 at the swingset. Everyday a guy would come down and talk to him and he would get up and leave. He was very skitish, looking over his shoulder and that"
guy seemed to me to have no agenda.
He lived alone with this mother, and they both kept to themselves.
handler?
scroll down to intereveiw 1/4 way down page
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/who_i...
I have to say the SCARIEST nut-job I've seen lately is Nettanyahu. Did you see the way that psychopath was staring down the U.N. after his dramatic little speech on Thursday?
Talk about a serial-killer wanna-be. He was glaring at the U.N. delegates like he was ready to eat their livers. He needs to get on some serious meds and calm the fuck down.
If there is one man alive who would start the nukes going it would be him.
And according to the ATF, it wasn't the 10/22 pictured that was used. So there's still a pretty good chance it was.
There's a simple solution to this, surprised no one has even realized it.
Take the south, build a giant ass wall around it, nobody allowed in. Remove all safety regs - seat belt laws, traffic laws, smoking, toxic waste dumping etc. - all the shit that is oppressin dose southern liberty lovers. Make all weapons within totally legal, no weapons allowed to shoot out or the whole place gets nuked (sorry guys). And of course no internet to the outside world, don't want to corrupt dem chile's mindz.
Finally, set up video cams all over the place so the world can enjoy the comedy and pay royalties (will cover cost of wall etc.).
This way the rest of the world can avoid hearing (outside of a strictly for comedy context) these dumbass conspiracy theories and retarded 'gun free zone' bullshit and bonus: liberty lovers can stop crying about liberals oppressin' 'em
Oh and we'll never have to listen to those idiotic claims about science again. Creationism, 7000 years old, all science is bullshit - the entire college curriculum.
Maybe call the place Americanistan. A new christian republic for liberty!
It's a win-win-win.
Deal?
Why is nobody talking about the lack of cell phone pictures of the event?
ALL of the photos taken of the event were taken by "Michael Sullivan" a professional photographer from the local newspaper.
There isn't a single selfie from the entire college.
Here is my analysis of Mike Sullivan's mysterious entry to the crime scene: http://i.imgur.com/LGUwAyW.jpg
Also fuck ChumbaWumba. Hes a muzzie who supported the attacks on 9/11
If your in the minority of junks versus overwhelming upvotes......you'rte probably one of the stupidest people on the planet.....congradulations.
No.....there is no prize.....sorry.
Fuck you, range rider.
According to the Heroshima a-bomb memorial museum Israel has 80 nukes (I was there yesterday)
Its ok, under "Drugs" he said: "Never".
So that answers that. Or wait, do prescription drugs not count as drugs any more (esp. in stories of murderous rampages)?
Never since yesterday.
of course "drugs" only means recreational
Paveway, is there any other way to stare at those UN cocksuckers?
That is a very interesting interview with the neighbor. Very odd for any person to be sitting on a playground with kids everyday around 4 pm, then have another man come get him every day and take him inside. Very odd. Then there's this, posted on page 14 of this thread, indicating the social media profiles have been changed extensively, and that mercer has tried to go to Syria:
Oregon Mass Shooter On Terror List Obama Refused To Take From Russia
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1921.htm
Interesting, even if this 'shooter' seems to follow the MC profile and protocols, all of which makes one wonder about that 'list' and the other 87,000 on it.
I was referring to Chris Dakotas comment and interview link above.
A mercer deals in textile fabrics. Your point?
A tyler lays tiles....stretch your mind....
"stretch your mind...."
No guarantee of clarity if all you do is stretch. You can stretch the human mind (including your own) into pretty much any shape you want.
A better approach is to ask yourself: "what am I doing, and why am I doing it?
Epiphanies are dangerous things. Better to come at the truth gradually. It's really not something you can rush, and the shock may be your undoing.
Tyler is the first name of a grade-school bully that use to pick on Chuck Palahniuk's older sister. His sister grew up in Laurel Valley hippy scene and was a notorious CIA/MKULTRA asset. She became involved in Le Droit Humain - the International Order of Freemasonry - and ascended to the 31st degree before some type of falling out with the Shriners. She was quite insane but a brilliant chemist and is credited with discovering an entire class of extremely visco-elastic polymers, one of which became Silly Putty and another of which was used to make Super Balls and gaskets for the space shuttle. Upon her death from a suspected ketamine and 'shroom overdose, police were horrified to find the mummified remains of a dismembered adult Tyler, her old grade-school bully, in the rafters of her mansion. Each one was wrapped in fleur-de-lis printed calico (mercerized cotton) and arranged in perfect north-south alignment. Stretch your f'king mind INDEED.
Oh man... my next door neighbor's kid is named Tyler.
Time to move.
ORI always teases out the meanings behind the words we see. I follow his leads.
The SS Deaths Head cap was a nice subliminal touch. I'm sure Mr. Mercer would have made a good aryan National Socialist.
I dunno, man. That whole "I'm a Republican" (who says that in a dating profile?) AND a "Nazi" ('cause I bought a hat) seems just a little contrived. I also agree with pods: why the hell didn't anyone rush the fucker after he shot the first person? 68% of people shot with a handgun LIVE - and you would think that people would say, "Fuck it - if I'm going out, I'm going out fighting..."
I think most people are making a mistake in saying that the main agenda for this incident is gun control.
My personal prediction is that the real target for these shootings is actually internet privacy rights and regulation.
It is only a matter of time before the MSM raises the fact that this guy posted on 4chan anonymously. There will be a subsequent call for banning annonymous usernames and God-knows what else from internet privacy rights.
The agenda must move onward
Even when they lose, they still win
Oh, its a mistake thinking that the agenda is gun control? Funny how after every incident like this, a prepared speech comes immediately afterwards by a prominant politician concering same. Yes, its all very coincidental.
I never said it was a mistake thinking gun control was an item in this situation.
I just said that gun control may not be the main target of the agenda this time.
OK here comes the ZH hate.
I'm glad I moved to Australia. This guy has it right:
http://www.smh.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/president-obama-was-...
I'm glad I moved to Australia. This guy has it right:
What you are not being told is that the crims, nutter's and mussies are all tooled up, just yesterday a
police officer was shot dead.....in front of a police station, no guns in Australia....Bullshit!!
there are shootings almost every day....
Handy chart for you mate:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death...
Here we go ....slandering the Nazis again.
why the hell didn't anyone rush the fucker after he shot the first person?
You're not from Oregon, are you?
One student rushed him and got shot 7 times for his trouble. Miraculously alive and expected to fully recover.
Yup. I know a guy that rushed a shooter one time and got shot like 99 times and survived. Sadly, after recovery he walked out of the hospital, tripped and hit his head; then he died. /s
You believe the hero story? Any of the story?? Please.
Aryan? He self-identifies as being of mixed race. I wonder what mixture he was. His father was interviewed briefly and spoke with an accent.
He was also confused (conservative is incompatible with socialist, national or international) and needed to learn the difference between 'their' and 'there'. If some teacher had just taken the time to teach him properly, he probably wouldn't have been so twisted. I blame it all on the school system for failing to instill proper self-esteem.
His mother black, father white.
No relationship after his birth.
He was born in England came to USA as a small boy.
Father Ian Mercer lives in Tarzana CA with new wife and child.
Seems no one blames Hollywood violence anymore but I think it's a big contributor. Maleable young minds see these violent movies and what do you expect? It look like "fun" in the movies to mow down a bunch of people but in real life it's very sick.
Hollywood should be more accountable. However, since the Movie Moguls contribute Millions to the Dems you won't hear a peep out of O'Bama about them.
Pastoral scenes and soothing music just don't draw them to the box office like they used to. The way violence is glorified on the screens, big and small, has a lot to do with people's perception of guns. Hell, many people learn all they know about guns from the tee-vee and inter-tubes.
The entire story is suspect especially out of that source, they got trolled yesterday by the internet into reporting all sorts of fake stuff but even taking it at its face just another of the same story we always see. Able bodied young male with nothing to do and no friends wants to make his mark on the world.
This is in many ways the fault of the system, get rid of minimum wage would be a start to fix this. Busy with a job / learning a trade can give one a dream and a goal outside hopeless stagnation and unemployement. Also I haven't heard yet how many drugs this kid was perscribed and which ones. A weirdo like this is almost guarnteed to have some ADHD diagnosis or depression or something, SSRI is in most of these kids.
Well, it probably had a scary 30 caliber clip that can fire 30 bullets in half a second, 30 magazine clip in half a second.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJmFEv6BHM0
And a shoulder thing that goes up.
yep, also probably one of those 'ghost guns'
The 50 Round double mag is even scarier, but great for plinking.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Ruger-BX-Round-Magazine/1545614.uts
10/22’s can get really scary LOOKING, but an AR or AK is preferable if things go beyond the optics.
http://www.gunsumerreports.com/review_black_dog_ruger_50_round_drum.php
..although I would never want to be on the wrong side of a 10/22 in the right hands.
Ya, thats def a 10/22, the picture actually looks like the stock I have on mine. ANd ya, in the right hands, a 22 can do some damage, but if your only goal is to kill as many people as possible, its doubtful that would be your weapon of choice. And I have seen those drums, but the ONLY time Ive ever had any issues with that rifle is when Ive been using non-ruger made mags, so i mostly stick to them. The butler creek ones with steel lips are OK, but, again, Ive never had a single problem with it when using ruger factory mags. Funny thing is, I NEVER strip and clean the thing either. I run a barrel snake through it, and lock the bolt to the rear, put some break free on a rag, and rub it around the bolt face and inside of the gun, takes me all of 2 minutes. All you gotta do with those things. great little rifles.
..although I would never want to be on the wrong side of a 10/22 in the right hands.
Agreed, but the last gun I would trust my life on is a rimfire 10/22 with those jank magazines.
My SIG 522 at least feeds every 22LR I feed it and it's still not something I would want as my primary weapon.
Snake? Reminds me of field cleaning an AK.. why would you?
If you feel you must, dip your shoelace in motor oil and snake it through. :-D
But this is the only way to go for a 10/22 mag.
http://www.cdnnsports.com/10-22-22-25x2-double-mag-ruger.html#.Vg6sdCt2H3g
The drum seems a bit stupid except for cosmetic appeal.
And yes, max damage needs more punch.
That would be a barrel shroud to the uninformed.
He could be Obama's son
And in the omitted news, another 274 people died from a serious adverse event associsted with a pharmaceutical drug.
Why Learn about Adverse Drug Reactions (ADR)?
http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DevelopmentApprovalProcess/DevelopmentResources...
Or was that 283 yesterday?
Don't mind the 5,000 who were just temporarily or permanently disabled, and / or hospitalized, either.
I wonder if Big Pharma can ratchet up the chemical mix that promotes mass murder aggression and sucicide when their is an agenda to fulfill?
No, I don't really wonder that.
All Risk No Reward;
Don't forget the 95 people who die each day on our roads.
All Risk No Reward;
Don't forget the 95 people who die each day on our roads.
If he drinked he wouldn't be killing small children. I read that profile and read what a looser...
What I don't get is when people are being executed around you, why the son of a bitch is allowed to keep doing it. I would rather die charging him.
We have a new school to reform those prime kids so they don't have such a hard time getting off, it's called wait till you are 18 or your parents go to jail.
Suprised it hasn't been said yet. IF OBAMA HAD A SON...
The only cure for a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun. The NRA had it right. Then and now. When will evil motherfuckers EVER honor a sign that says "Not allowed to carry weapons" if they intend to kill? "Please dont!" only gets you so far. A well placed bullet on the other hand...
When will evil motherfuckers EVER honor a sign that says "Not allowed to carry weapons" if they intend to kill?
When will good motherfuckers EVER IGNORE a sign that says "Not allowed to carry weapons" if they intend to stop mass killings?
Those "good" motherfuckers are not all that good by honoring those damned signs, are they?
They are as fucking useless as teats on a boar hog.
And you think that you can discern a bad man from a good man. Well GOOD MEN will BREAK THE RULES and ignore the God Damned signs
Ive mentioned this on here before, but unless its a government building, (which obviously this school is) those "gun free zone" signs don't mean shit. look up the laws where you live, but in florida anyway, a movie theater, mall or whatever, that deosn't allow guns can only ask you to leave the premises. Those signs carry no force of law whatsoever. Refuse to leave, and you can be arrested for tresspassin(which would be doubly bad since you also have gun while doing it) but as long as you leave if you are told to by an employee, you can't be charged with anything. I doubt many of yall are still in school, but every one must, from time to time, go into a building tht says "no guns", but that doesn't actually mean anything down here
30 days in the cooler for you.
Check your premises.
Yu got pos'ed by TRS??
clint there is already a organization for whores...it is called the naacp and the welfare program.
If there's one thing America can do, it's drum up enough hungry sluts to get it done Clint Liquor
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of pussy.
-Winston Churchill?
The current system for allocating this resource dis-enfranchises the poor. If you are rich you can marry it or rent it.
People don't know how to be alone anymore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7X7sZzSXYs&index=31&list=RD92i5m3tV5XY
Yeah. Draft for women to do women's work
I agree Clint. A sexually prime male who watched for years all the chicks showing their stuff, and walking off from the bar every night with a different cool dude to fuck, a guy can only take so much.
Knowing he will never get decent pussy, never, he begins to go crazy. With nothing left to lose, he takes up the gun.
Young men are subject to more humiliation than some guys can take. When rejection by women is your everyday experience, this badly raised and education youth are prime killers.
Yes, and just like the greedy rich, women don't want to share what they have. In the socialist utopia there will be no crime. So, women will be force to give it up like the rich are force to pay?
"A guy can only take so much"
Set your sights too high and yeah, you won't get laid. Take a reality check and ask the plain Jane out and see what happens. That guy doesn't look so bad that a woman in his situation wouldn't take him up. Look around you. Most couples out there fall in that category. They settled, and if they were smart, worked on making it work. Compromise, man. It's what normal adults do.
There's something else at work here. Rejection only sends you over the edge if you're predisposed.
addendum:
If sexual frustration is the driving factor, then you should see a lot more of this in China and Islamic States. Access to women is a real problem there, but you don't see anything like the degree of crazy shit you get stateside. Something else is at work here. My money's on psychoactive prescription drugs combined with bad genetics and bad environment, in that order. Media sensationalism doesn't help much either. Gives them ideas, is what.
I dunno. Hard for me to believe anyone does anything like this w/o SRA / MKULTRA being involved. Doesn't make me right, just what I suspect first.
Presently there are more single men in China than the entire population of Australia. Looks like the world is suffering from a very large whore shortage.
That is time wasted I can never get back. Yeah, thanks for that. Took away from my masterbation time. I'll have to condense it down a bit.
The ability to fight has been systematically educated out of people.
I can't confront much of anybody giving me crap any more or the judge sezs that I am a bully.
I think in the case of charging a mass murderer in action, the judge would be lenient.
Kind of like they're lenient when a burgler injures himself robbing your home?
Typically with jihadi terror and drug cartel beheading videos they drug the victim first to make them compliant. So that explains that. No clue on the sheep in that sleepy little town.
Pods - read the psychological write up for the Virginia Tech shootings. It will make your skin crawl.
Students stood in a row while the shooter shot them in the head. NOT ONE fucking kid moved as the person next to them fell. The people who took action were mainly the older faculty members.
I have no idea what we have created as a mindset with our youth. It was chilling to read how they just gave up and were murdered. Looks like the same here. The guy reloaded............
I heard a bit about him reloading. WTF?
I know you can be paralyzed with fear but cannot come to grips with staying still and compliant during that.
pods
Exactly. You're going to sit there and await your execution? even if you know NO self defense, you tackle the guy, bite his nose, gouge his eyes, WHATEVER you need to do to survive. I wear heavy boots where ever I go just to do a knee stomp should the need arise.
"I wear heavy boots where ever I go just to do a knee stomp should the need arise."
I laugh at these thug wannabes with the "hip-hop" look. How the fuck do you defend yourself, much less project force wearing sneakers with your pants halfway down your ass? Never mind the convenient choke chain they thoughtfully provide. I can see why these guys carry guns. They'd be helpless without them.
so sad i always tell ppl to teach their children marital arts for defense.
we live in a dangerous world
even to defend vs. rape...
self defense is so, so important...
My kids started TKD. Pretty good already. Of course the Master is very personable and has dragged my ass out there a few times as well. I will probably sign up as well as my wife.
He also teaches hapkido. That is some messed up shit.
pods
«....so sad i always tell ppl to teach their children marital arts for defense.»
Ha!......marital arts....funny....Marital arts will give you all the skills and knowhow to deal with an angry spouse:
- Where the hell were you!? it's 2 AM!!!
- SMACK!!!!!!!! That's where I was!!
Pods,
When dealing with situations involving other specieis, we are hard wired for fight-or-flight, as is commonly taught. When dealing with a same species encounter, we are programmed with four choices; fight-or-flight in addition to submit-or-dominate.
Clearly these were all young people who never mentally prepared themselves for something bad happening (Oregon is pretty hippy) or weren't predisposed to confront violence.
Regards,
Cooter
EDIT: If you reallly want to understand more, this is a good book on the subject:
http://www.amazon.com/On-Killing-Psychological-Learning-Society/dp/03160...
Thanks Cooter!
Hmmmm guns , whites and them eeevil Nazis demonised all in one go ! Well done Mossad/CIA or whatever spook Rothschild agency covers this kind of thing
maybe the ppl who got their heads cut off were drugged and were not scared ???
i remember the guy from Korea Kim Sun-il (only beheading i watched and never fucking again!! -- fucking horrible !) screaming to his end...back in 2004
"Does anyone not have the fight or flight reaction anymore?"
This guy, Chris Mintz, took seven bullets trying to stop the guy.
So at least some people fight back. I think the issue is the authroties have literally spent decades doing the PR campaign that the best thing a victim can do is to comply with demands and not fight back -- you hear that over and over again with robberies, for example. We see how well that worked out on 9/11 and in this case.
The best course of action is to fight back violently and without hesitation, of course, but doing do undermines the power of the police, etc. Most likely at the point-blank ranges the guy was working at, it would only take two or three people to take him down if he were alone -- can't shoot three people at once.
No Westerners and especially us americans are so dumbed down, docile and drugged up we basically just line up to the firing squad...."Mission Accomplished"
Why didn't they rush him while he was reloading??? Did they just stand there and watch?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/02/forget-oregon-s-gunman-...
because the people who fought him were in the hospital being treated..... not walking around to be interviewed.
why no fight or flight?
No kidding. This happens repeatedly. It's hard to believe that there aren't two dudes in one of these situations who catch each other's eye and nod.
All the frightened kiddies ran over to Gene Rosen's summer house, where he fed them milk and cookies 'til the terror subsided.
Ya, Im reserving judgement about this one, too. Im not 100% convinced that sandy hook was a hoax, but there are a lot of glaring inconsistencies. Im gonna wait and see how this one plays out. Im also just waiting to hear what SSRI this guy was on. Funny how these things happen right when they are needed to take up all the news channels attention, right when something, or several somethings, are going on that the government would rather you not pay attention to.
Robbie Parker laughing and clowning then "OOPS, WE'RE LIVE"!!!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oMINqFGNr-w
Ya, Ive seen that. SHowed it to my wife yesterday, actually. She said "how do we even know that this is real" which really surprised me, since she usually just does a 'smile and nod' type thing whenever I say something all tinfoil hat-ish like that. Like I said, it stinks, it probably was bullshit, but we'll probably never get definitive proof either.
The post Pope timing was perfect for the gun-grabbers.
The guy was tied to the military... MKUltra is a possibility. So is depressed wacko on pharmaceuticals. The FBI has been instigating people in Oregan before... maybe they instigated this guy as well...
Terrorist Plots, Hatched by the F.B.I.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/terrorist-plots-helped-...
When an Oregon college student, Mohamed Osman Mohamud, thought of using a car bomb to attack a festive Christmas-tree lighting ceremony in Portland, the F.B.I. provided...
...like they did during the first attempt to bloe up a WTC.
FBI terrorists among us: the 1993 WTC Bombing
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/07/29/fbi-terrorists-among-us-th...
The FBI told their mole to build the bomb for the 1993 WTC bombing and paid for the supplies:
The Secret Life of Timothy McVeigh by J Corbett was an eye opener.
'Corbett Report ... we examine the multiple trucks, multiple bombs, government informants, faked executions and other pieces of information suggesting that McVeigh was not a "lone wolf bomber" at all but a sheepdipped special forces operative working for the government, exactly as he claimed.'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgfi1QZILxk
This damn kid was probably a TRUMP supporter and Trump got him all fired up and he went out and shot people because of TRUMP!
Thanks for your participation.
Please pick up your trophy next to the open elevator door.
When are the damn Trump supporting kids going to bring their guns over to yiddish university in jew york city!?
I bet you take it up the ass three times a day, don't you f'head?
I bring you solutions to your ailments, you sling childish insults. Born in USA, programmed to love your jew master. Have it your way Mr. Burger King but don't tell me I didn't warn you.
My dad always said: "Leave it to the flinty-eyed Amish to bring real world solutions to some of the most intractable problems we, perforce, must confront."
Dad worked for Merriam-Webster.
Researching the efforts of Wolfgang Halbig will reveal Sandy Hook was a false flag aimed at gun control. He is providing all the evidence he can accumulate. The government agents involved in this false flag are doing everything possible to stop him from getting evidence that should be available on the public record. He has received many threats from goverment agents. Wolfgang needs support to move forward in the courts.
Questions where there should be none.Watch the FOIA hearings,the police chief and school head were sweating bullets.Have you seen this http://www.montefrank.com/index.php/2015/09/14/monte-frank-jeremy-richma...
At 20 years old, should he have been?
SSIRs? http://ssristories.org/all-posts/
If you picked any random person out of the US population chances are something like one in three they're on a legal, prescribed drug for altering their mental state.
And another one in three are on some illegal drug and the remaining third soused in alcohol.
So was he on mind control drugs, excuse me, drugs to treat his illness like SSRI type drugs?
"Mercer's blog posts, which were penned under the name "lithium_love."
Yeah, that handle was the thing in the whole article which caught my attention. This guy was on prescription meds, no doubt in my mind.
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Lithium and the Experiment over Oregon
Posted on September 28, 2015
By Ann Fillmore, PhD
Like the ones that totally changed my brother's life for the better since 1991? Those drugs?
A bad remake of Taxi Driver.
May rape be yin to his yang
Isn't Chicago a gun-free place...?
Exactly why the violent crime rate is crazy high [as you know].
First time I saw a 'Smoke Free' sign, I went looking for the booth where they were giving cigarettes away.
Another Active Shooter Drill folks! Time to heavily scrutinize the victims.
Yeah those "victims" need to be re-victimized and strung up on a lamp post!
Or when the global media had to scramble for 7 days straight to get a new narrative on Syria. Yea this shooting was right on time.
And scrutinize the motive:
http://truthstreammedia.com/2015/10/01/another-mass-shooting-just-in-tim...
Also, is there any other kind of shooter than "active"?
"Active shooter", seems redundant.
Well he quickly became a Dead shooter, so I guess Active means something.
Begs the question. During the event he was called an active shooter.
That and the fact he was "neutralized".
Who would actually talk like that except on a bruce willis movie.
I used to know a SWAT team guy, he was really brainwashed and he said to me
"They call it neutralize, that's fucked up, isn't it??"
they train them that way, its not kill.
Adds a little distance between conscience and action.
Helps with sleeping nights too, I would guess.
Nice, D'a.
Kinda figure this is you though.
http://www.trueachievements.com/Davilis.htm
If Obama had a son...