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The US Has Added Three Times More Foreign-Born Workers Than Native-Born Since December 2007

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If you thought the headline jobs print was bad, wait till you see this.

While we will show the quality of the jobs shortly (you guessed it: waiters and bartenders jumped, manufacturing workers tumbled), with the presidential elections, in which immigration has become the key topic coming up, a far more relevant issue is the spread between "native-born" workers (as defined by the BLS), and "foreign-born." Expect the September data to provide much fodder for the upcoming republican and democratic debates.

But before we show what happened, here is a quick glance at the breakdown between full and part-time jobs in September. According to the BLS, 53,000 part-time jobs were added in September. The offset: a drop of 185,000 full-time jobs. Welcome, once again, to the part-time recovery we first profiled in December 2010.

 

With that out of the way, here is the punchline (which is likely related). While we "know" that a paltry 142K jobs were added according to the Establishment survey, a far more disturbing trend emerges when observing the Household survey, which conveniently breakdown down the number of "native-born" and "foreign-born" workers. In September, the latter rose by 14,000 to 24,928.

That was the good news. The bad news: native-born workers saw their ranks tumble by 262,000!

 

More disturbing, as the following chart shows, after briefly topping their December 2007 level, native-born jobs (blue line below) are now in danger of once again going back into the red. In the meantime, foreign-born workers are steadily increasing (and helping populate all those "part-time" jobs)

 

Finally, this is what the native-vs-foreign born discrepancy looks like since December 2007: in the past 8 years, there has been 300% more foreign-born workers added than native-born.

Prepare to hear much more about this statistics in the coming GOP presidential debates.

Source: Native-Born and Foreign-Born

 

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Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:14 | 6620520 -.-
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Living in AmericaTM

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:20 | 6620567 Jlasoon
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We need more 'insourcing'!!!! 

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:47 | 6620739 goldhedge
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Just a case of 'lazy' natives.

 

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:51 | 6620766 Pure Evil
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Wait for the charts to start showing native and foreign born works being replaced with robots.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:52 | 6620768 stoneworker
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They took our jobs!

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:53 | 6620776 Mister Ponzi
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It would be interesting to see whether foreign-born and native-born correlates with foreign-educated and native-educated...

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:56 | 6620792 clooney_art
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There are many foreign born US Citizens. So if this article is somehow related to illegal immigration, it does not make any sense.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 13:48 | 6621710 Macchendra
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replace MBAs with a social collaboration tool.  Form employee-owned businesses to take out the bastards doing this.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 11:15 | 6620919 Groundhog Day
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Decades ago when I was in High School (and it wasn't as dumbed down as today) I studied trigonometry, precalculas and calculas with some foreign born students who had just come to the US.  These guys would literally sleep in the back of the class and ace every exam.  I asked who they do so well and their response was : We learned this material already in much more depth.  Is it any wonder an employer would rather hire them over Native born.  It's not that Native borns are lazy, they ave been dumbed down and don;t realize it

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 11:29 | 6621004 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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".....precalculas and calculas"

 

PRECALCULUS and CALCULUS

 

Note: While you hibernate this winter please read the dictionary.

Sat, 10/03/2015 - 01:26 | 6624029 GardenWeasel
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I get a laugh out of pathetic pea-brains like you whose only contribution to the conversation is to wow us with your command of spell check.  Apparently that is as deep as your thought process can go.  You are a piss-poor smartass, so if you don't have anything intelligent to say do us all a favor and STFU.

 

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:48 | 6620742 Keyser
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The US is no longer exporting jobs to countries with cheap labor, we are importing the cheap labor from those countries to fill jobs in America, of course at the expense of Americans that built the country in the first place... Last one out turn off the lights... 

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:54 | 6620763 ThirteenthFloor
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Yes. Facist business model, we know how it ends.

But it ain't new, transcontinental railroad was built the imported Chinese labor - hence established Chinatowns in USA in 19th century.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:51 | 6620764 Son of Loki
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Mi no comprendo.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 11:13 | 6620899 Jethro
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This continues until the robots replace the foreigners, which won't take long.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:22 | 6620581 FireBrander
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Friday night, for reasons unknown, is "Indian Night" at my local Costco...which sits smack-dab in the middle of all the "high pay" and "white collar" jobs area...no more running Hotels and Quiki Marts for these folks...Those are now White people's jobs...Whitey got a demotion...

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 11:15 | 6620917 Jethro
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I call BS. You can't tell me that all the locally owned, bed bug infested hotels aren't owned by a Patel...

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 11:33 | 6621025 Bob
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Get to know some Indian people--it's Friday night because they've busted their asses at the office all week and are now scrambling to supply for the coming weekend that usually involves shitloads of home cooking and socializing.  Takes a lot of raw ingredients to maintain those cultural traditions . . . and it pays to get to know them because their meal spreads are astounding.  Fuck restaurants . . . follow your nose to meet a new neighbor!

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 12:36 | 6621329 Bananamerican
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is that all you got to say?

Embrace the New World Order cuz the food is great?

"To serve Mankind"

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 12:47 | 6621389 DeProgrammed
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When the NWO hands you lemons...?

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 16:41 | 6622546 Bob
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Pay restaurant prices for inferior chow, then, Bananamerican. 

It's a free cuntry I guess.  Just sayin' you don't have to get taken by the obvious bad side of the immigration thing. 

Sometimes there's more to be gained by wading into the throng.  People surprise one another. 

Prejudices fall.  Bonds are struck.  People grow and better lives are made. 

It ain't all bad.  NWO or not. 

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:31 | 6620631 junction
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Left out in the numbers is that foreign born workers get ripped off more by employers: beat by not receiving overtime pay, by not being "on the books" and stiffed on their last week of pay when they get laid off.  Once employers see what they can get away with "foreign" workers, they apply the same practices to all their workers.  For example, Walmart had employees "working off the clock" for years before it got caught.  The USA is fast becoming a country where no employer follows the labor laws.  The empty suits in the USDOL should all be fired for incompetence but Obummer will have none of that, he is too busy planning his next false flag shooting incident at another school or church. 

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:35 | 6620669 FireBrander
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"The USA is fast becoming a country where no employer follows the labor laws. "

Repeal all labor laws, that is the solution.

Businesses will act in thier long term best interests if "Government" would just leave them alone!

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:59 | 6620809 cougar_w
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Their long term best interest is to pay $1 a day.

No thanks.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 12:38 | 6621339 Bananamerican
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"Repeal all labor laws, that is the solution...Businesses will act in thier (sic) long term best interests if "Government" would just leave them alone!" - Charles Dickens

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 11:04 | 6620843 ThroxxOfVron
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New immigrants have no outstanding obligations: no mortgage payments, no car payments, no student loan payments, etc.

If there are obligations to siblings, elders, or children these often are suspended during a period after they migrate or the funds are sent to their former country of domicile and thus are also leached out of the local domestic economy instead of re-introduced as spending/money multiplier.

The IRS also makes it quite easy to claim deductions for multiple dependents and children in foreign countries where it is impossible to prove such exist as the dependents cannot be produced on demand while native taxpayers can and are forced to prove the existance of dependents by producing documentation or the persons physically.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 12:46 | 6621374 RaceToTheBottom
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I worked for a consulting firm that had loads of H1Bs working for a few years in the US.  None of them wanted to take part in the 401K programs because they were going to go home eventually.

The problem is the way 401k are setup is that depending on certain participation ratios and your base rate I would get penalized because non of them (being lower paid) were participating....

Screwy side effects....

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:32 | 6620654 venturen
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Living in North MexicoTM

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 12:42 | 6621354 Elliott Eldrich
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I do believe a majority of the population has now concluded that this so-called nation is run by monsters wholly intent upon crushing working people into abject poverty. This is not a tenable situation.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:19 | 6620525 Gatos Locos
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Shit...I mean crap happens.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:24 | 6620539 Dr. Engali
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This is good news for all those middle east refugees that Obama is helping. Thank goodness he is so magnanimous and our great country is s prosperous that we can help those poor desperate people that nasty old Putin is chasing from their countries.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:21 | 6620579 MFL8240
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Great work Obama!  This was the hopeless change you were preaching??

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:27 | 6620618 Dg4884
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In short MFL?  YES.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:25 | 6620608 MATA HAIRY
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treason

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:26 | 6620615 Collapsed_Elast...
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The Gov of Michigan and Hitlery want moar refugees. Up to 100,000.

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2015/09/could_michigan_offer...

Fron Syria to Detroit. What a great idea.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:36 | 6620676 Everybodys All ...
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Right out of the new world order play book.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 11:13 | 6620906 ThroxxOfVron
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Bureaucrats create more jobs and insure secure job security for themselves managing the distribution of other people's money to their target constituencies...

Try reading the work of Nobel Laureate Oliver E. Williamson.  

The prime interest of ALL programs in government is exactly the same as with Corporate Structures: to fund and perpetuate Bureaucratic Employment Silos.

It does NOT matter what the intended or stated goal is.

Executive, Diplomatic, Educational, Judicial, Security, Regulatory, etc...: it is all predicated first and foremost on Bureaucracy construction and preservation.

Austerity is the proof: it is always predicated on diminishing services to the constituents/recipients whilst protecting the jobs, benefits and pensions of the Bureaucrats administering the programs.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:28 | 6620628 Ataxic Press
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The foreign born workers will eventually get replaced by robots, so take comfort in thinking about a beautiful future.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 11:02 | 6620832 cougar_w
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Deflation is about to kill that idea in its crib.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 11:19 | 6620948 Ataxic Press
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Robot Walmart associates

Electric motorhomes

Elon on Mars

I remember going to Tomorowland when I was teenager, and now I think Buckminster Fuller was 80% full of shit.

 

 

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:28 | 6620630 RopeADope
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But...owning guns causes people to commit mass shootings, not lousy economic situations.

Just ask Obama.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:28 | 6620634 wmbz
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"The US Has Added Three Times More Foreign-Born Workers"

~Yes but these folks are doing the work that native born Amerikans do not want to do... GW Bush

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:29 | 6620638 Agent P
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Full Time Jobs (-185,000) + Part Time Jobs (+53,000) = Total Jobs (+142,000)???

How many math teachers got jobs?

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:45 | 6620724 Jethro
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Eleventy

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:52 | 6620770 Son of Loki
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"Americans are just not ambitious enuff."

 

~ Jack ma (paraphrase)

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 12:05 | 6621188 Midas
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That's pretty big minus Frito.

--Not Sure

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:30 | 6620643 Ignorance is bliss
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Obama and his policies are a cancer eating America. Can't wait for Hillary aka "gangrene" to finish us off.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:33 | 6620658 Duc888
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"Obama and his policies are a cancer eating America. Can't wait for Hillary aka "gangrene" to finish us off.

 

Nooz flash.  These "policies" in no way started with Obama.  Where have you been in the last 35 years?

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:34 | 6620666 Ignorance is bliss
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News flash... The policies are still in place. He had 8 years to turn this ship around. Instead he just added more holes.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:55 | 6620778 Pure Evil
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But.........its still Bush's fault.

 

Or, maybe the new boogeyman Putin.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 11:04 | 6620842 cougar_w
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Citizens United.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:31 | 6620648 toady
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Expect all data/graphics like this to disappear quickly. They'll be deemed racist or more likely just disappear with no explanation. I'm amazed the politically correct police haven't done so already. 

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:31 | 6620649 Duc888
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Yea, keep voting.  They really do have YOUR best interests in mind.

 

 

Not.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:33 | 6620656 Ignorance is bliss
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The problem is the nation owes so much debt to foreigners that we can never say no. It's almost like servitude to foreign interests.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:39 | 6620694 Dr. Bonzo
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Americans are superfluous. If our jobs aren't shipped overseas, replacement workers are simply shipped in from the 3rd world. As if a country of 300 million people can't create enough software engineers to fill every Sillycone Valley vacancy. Apparently not. More Singhs and Mohinders please. And we'll add some Wongs and Wangs to buy up our homes, some Gomez's to mow the lawns and some Kims to do the dry cleaning.

Explain to me why my state-funded public university has an enrollment of 17% overseas students. I was reading a Dutch university article the other day on why Dutch universities weren't jumping on the "teach 3rd worlders" bandwagon. To paraphrase, researchers concluded "such transfer of knowledge would in the end only displace local talent in Holland, or return home to undercut Dutch companies at a substantial cost." I think they were saying... why commit intellectual suicide? Meanwhile.... back at University of Americide.....

You white people can go off yourselves while we slowly transform your country into a little amalgem I like to call Chindiaxico.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 12:57 | 6621418 RaceToTheBottom
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Plus we end up producing a society that cannot count to 25; that view engineering as uncool; 

And we miss all the knock on effects of creating new tools and stuff in the US.

But don't worry, all those people that cannot think will become productive voters....  OOOPs

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:45 | 6620719 Jethro
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Zuckerberg needs the Mussolini treatment...

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:49 | 6620749 loregnum
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Makes sense as most of the natives not being hired are probably fat lazy entitled slobs content to live on government handouts and probably have limited IQs. But hey, better people try and blame foreign born people coming and "stealing" the jobs than wondering why natives are so useless.

USA!

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:58 | 6620804 Dr. Engali
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Yeah that's what it is...., or maybe, just maybe, foreign born workers are easier to exploit. Just a thought. 

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 10:59 | 6620813 Ignorance is bliss
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I believe the 30,000 unemployed HP workers would disagree. Wonder how many of those jobs will be outsourced to India, China, Pakistan? No need to pay for Obamacare or taxes in those countries.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 11:02 | 6620817 Pure Evil
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Yep, its the natives fault for being so fat and dumb.

Must be why Qualcomm and Disney World fired its IT staff of native workers with decades of experience to bring in fresh off the boat foreign IT workers with no experience and then forced the soon to be layed off workers to train their replacements.

Yep, those people were so fat and dumb they couldn't even navigate the Lil' Rascals their fat asses rode through the hallways of the cube farms where they worked.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 11:05 | 6620848 Jethro
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Actually, it has more to do with payroll outlays and an agenda. Why hire US workers when they cost more, when you can get a foreign born worker with lower salary and benefit expectations?

The agenda part comes into play when you see images of who Obama meets with when he has a roundtable with all of the Silcon Valley dirtbags.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 11:13 | 6620905 SmittyinLA
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Obama enemy alien President

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 11:16 | 6620924 SmittyinLA
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Manufacturing=equipment/machinery=electricity use

The primary cost of 99% of high dollar manufacturing is.......

Electricity

Cheapest powered robot always wins.

Even Jeb knows that.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 11:17 | 6620939 overmedicatedun...
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nwo plan for America, maybe Trump is not on board, maybe he is a better bet..we will not know until that wall goes up and those syrians get kicked out..hopeful but been screwed too many times before...

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 11:23 | 6620968 LetsGetPhysical
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Please cue up the next weepy article on why we should let in 100,000 more "Syrian" invaders ZH. Or maybe we could get a Chamber of Commerce point of view on why we need 20 million more Mexicans to do the "jobs Americans won't do". I'm sorry I must be a xenophobic nativist to think such things. How dare I put Americans first. H1B visas for everyone, hooray!

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 11:33 | 6621023 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Professor Emeritus Karl Marx rocks!

 

Up yours, Ponzi Casino Capitalism, you money whore.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 12:28 | 6621281 Elio
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This doesnt surprise me one bit. Elite all around the world has no religion, nationality or any kind of principles. They use this kind of things to RULE ordinary people. if it is profitable europe will be like eurabia and america will be like arabica.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 12:49 | 6621408 InnVestuhrr
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I own some investment properties in FL in one of those HUGE planned communities with thousands of houses. The community is installing new fiber optic network, which requires a lot of digging up access holes, installing distribution boxes, etc, so i went there to observe the operation and ensure that my properties were not damaged in the process.

The cable company hired hundreds of workers to do the digging and cable pushing/installing - ALL of them are from Mexico and Central America, very few have any comprehension or fluency in English, and all of them are "legal".

The few technicians who went around with schematics and sensing equipment locating and marking underground infrastructure were obviously American, and white.

I am wondering: IF the government expelled all the Latin American immigrants and required American citizens and residents who are receiving entitlement programs payments of any kind, to do this kind of hard manual labor in very high heat and humidity, what would be the result ?

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 13:39 | 6621672 Peak Finance
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Don't buy the COMPLETE MSM BULLSHIT that white people don't want do the work.  I remember just one story from a few years back when ICE cleared out a tyson factory of illegalls (and they only did that becuase the local illegal crime and drugs got out of control) WHITE people lined up for those jobs that natives "just don't want to do."

Who do you think did the work beore the illegals came?  Why do you think school hours are so weird and fucked up, and why students get a summer vacation? It was to give the kids the time to do the bullshit low-skilled work the illegals are doing, let them earn some money and learn responsibility.  

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 13:56 | 6621753 InnVestuhrr
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You misunderstood my question, I actually agree with you that many Americans would be willing to do the work.

An additional consequence of allowing the flood of immigrants/invaders is the suppression of the wages.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 13:46 | 6621696 rejected
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Don't see the big hype on jobs. Anyone making decent earnings with a few bennies are demonized,,, especially if union.

Seems ameriKans are afraid they'll lose their cheapo Chinese toys.  With that in mind,,, one wonders how we survived in the 50's, 60's, 70's and 80's.  Maybe because we were busy producing things instead of playing with Ithingy's and texting to each other? 

Don't worry,,, soon as we're down to $10 per day many of the 'good' jobs will return for the beloved children. 

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